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0:00 There are people who swim across the channel.

0:01 Lunatics.

0:03 Adam Curry, John C. DeVora.

0:05 It's Sunday, May 10, 2026.

0:07 It's your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination Episode 1876.

0:11 This is No Agenda.

0:13 Celebrating mobs everywhere and broadcasting live from Amsterdam, the Netherlands, here at the airport.

0:21 In the morning, everybody.

0:23 I'm Adam Curry.

0:24 Yeah, from Refinery Row here in Northern California.

0:28 We miss our moms, and wish them all a happy Mother's Day.

0:32 I'm John C. DeBoer.

0:33 It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.

0:37 Yeah, that's right.

0:38 I keep forgetting.

0:38 We don't have moms.

0:40 Well, we have moms.

0:44 No.

0:45 We don't have living moms.

0:47 Ah, this is the difference.

0:49 We have moms no longer with us, yes.

0:51 And as we know, most people who listen to the show hate their mom.

0:57 Or has it changed?

0:59 Or so it seems, except during COVID.

1:01 Yeah.

1:02 Has it changed somewhat, perhaps?

1:05 Oh, I can't visit my mom.

1:08 Oh, no.

1:09 Second show from the, you know, I looked out the window this morning,

1:13 and that sign that caught fire in the hotel.

1:17 Yeah.

1:18 Literally outside our room.

1:20 And they took it down.

1:20 I took a picture.

1:21 It's all scorched.

1:22 The wall is all scorched.

1:24 That thing, that is weird.

1:25 That thing caught fire.

1:27 huh yeah because it's short there's a couple other strange things i just have to talk about

1:34 boots on the ground you know on thursday we just arrived and i'd only seen the inside of the

1:38 airport and i've been around i've been walking i went to see christina we did the uh the gender

1:44 reveal we did the gender reveal big gender reveal party this is where you say okay this is where you

1:52 scoff they're kind of dumb it was fun though it was nice so first of all in the netherlands this

2:01 may be an eu wide thing they have done something to plastic bottles and this is very odd to me

2:10 when you open the top of the plastic bottle it stays attached to the bottle you can't actually

2:18 it's got a little thing on it yeah it's got a little thing on it and i'm thinking okay i'm sure

2:22 this is for climate change or to save the earth but have you have you ever had a bottle of water

2:27 yeah i've had a bottle of water and have you just when you're done with your bottle of water

2:34 you just throw the cap away or do you put the cap on and throw the bottle away

2:38 what i tend to do oh here we go i take the bottle which is usually plastic yes and i squeeze it to

2:49 it so it's like shrunk into as small as possible piece then i put the cap on it so it can't return

2:54 to its original size then it takes up less space in the garbage can so you are actually doing a

3:00 good thing for the earth with the cap yep but you don't need the cap attached to remember does

3:06 anyone throw the bottle cap away outside of the bottles anyone do this i think it's been done

3:13 oh it doesn't seem like a number one thing and it's kind of annoying because you want to drink

3:17 out of the bottle and that thing is slapping you in the nose exactly europe i have i before you go

3:24 on with your little which is important your conversation but it's very i have to play this

3:30 an amsterdam clip okay which is a girl on on uh insta yeah talking about the screwball stuff that

3:39 she's run into and she's grilling her fake friend about it here we go hey excuse me amsterdam um

3:47 quick question yeah what is it so i thought amsterdam was one of those places where anything

3:52 goes but i'm hearing something of a ban that recently went into effect well even we have our

3:58 limits but smoking in coffee shops are still legal yes yeah as are magic mushrooms yeah and public

4:06 nudity yeah so what could have crossed the line that you have to ban it now that would be public

4:12 advertising of fossil fuel products including meat so no more ads for gas powered cars airlines or

4:19 chicken nuggets correct well i have a lot of questions but besides that is there anything

4:26 else you've been cracking down on recently yeah uh young british men what you're banning british

4:33 men no no not a ban but we do have an advertising campaign telling them to stay away so let me get

4:39 the street in a city known for permissiveness you're drawing the line at british dudes and

4:45 ads for cheeseburgers yeah naturally because one ruins the climate and the other ruins our city

4:52 yeah well the ban on young british men that that's been going for a while and i think it's

4:59 kind of slowed down because of cheap airfare is over now that they have barely any fuel

5:05 yeah it's true because you know they were getting on the easy jet for 50 bucks and flying over and

5:12 getting you just fall down drunk and peeing in the party town yeah peeing in the mailboxes and

5:20 stuff like that yeah yeah well unfortunately the mailboxes are connected to the door you know it's

5:26 not like a separate mailbox so you're peeing into someone's house through the mailbox so yeah you

5:32 Now, the British boys were a bit of a problem.

5:34 But listen to this.

5:35 So we go to the gender reveal.

5:38 And my first wife is there, who I haven't seen in 10 years.

5:43 So, you know, it was kind of an interesting vibe all around.

5:50 You know, Tina had never met her.

5:52 So, you know, you can imagine that was interesting.

5:55 That was great.

5:57 Actually, it was great.

5:58 It was actually really nice.

6:01 But what do you think the first question she asked me,

6:06 and we sat down for a couple of minutes,

6:07 what do you think the first question was that she asked me?

6:10 Well, I would say that if I was her.

6:13 Think carefully.

6:14 Think carefully now.

6:15 I would say, hi, Adam, how's the show going?

6:19 Yeah, no.

6:21 You get another guess.

6:22 No, you get another guess.

6:24 Hi, Adam, how's your hemorrhoids?

6:29 You finally got them cleared up?

6:30 Okay.

6:31 No.

6:31 Great, John, no.

6:32 No.

6:33 No?

6:33 She says, I'm sure everyone has asked you this.

6:37 Uh-oh.

6:39 You want to guess now?

6:40 Oh, everyone has asked you this.

6:43 How do you like Texas?

6:45 First she said, hey, is that old dude still alive?

6:49 No, that's not what she asked.

6:50 She said, what do you think of President Trump?

6:54 Oh, duh, I should have gotten guessed that.

6:58 What am I thinking?

7:00 first question out of the gate and it is it is the first question from everybody i didn't expect

7:07 it from her because yes there were a lot of questions she could have had as the first one

7:11 at the top of her mind um but even you know taxi eric you know taxi eric the guy that tried to kill

7:17 you once oh yeah they almost got me killed almost got you killed um he says that whenever he gets

7:22 uh americans in the car they picks him up from the airport they all go oh trump oh we hate trump

7:29 we hate trump everyone hates trump and i'm like that's odd there's so only democrats are traveling

7:37 to holland now no no no i think it's because people are afraid oh i get it yeah i've i've

7:44 pulled that stunt you know because they know that all of europe hates trump now that is also not

7:51 true because taxi eric doesn't hate trump and so anyway so then my answer to my first wife was

7:58 well you know i like a lot of things he's doing for instance our borders are closed and he's

8:08 kicking out the undesirables when you say this and it works in every case not just in ex-wives

8:14 when you say this they go yeah wow i wish we had a guy here to do something like that

8:20 that's exactly what they say and i said and there's other things that he's done that i think

8:25 are pretty good well yeah yeah yeah oh that's i hadn't thought about that so but every single

8:32 person the same thing first you say oh yeah no i like trump i think he's doing some good stuff and

8:37 their face goes and then you just have to say our borders are closed and we're kicking out the

8:43 undesirables oh i like the use of the term undesirable that's a good one well isn't that

8:51 the truth the undesirable it's just a term nobody uses anymore it's good perfect very apt it's good

8:57 it's good and then uh i guess the only other thing that i noticed here uh is the ratio of

9:06 commercials to programming is worse than the united states it is 21 commercials to every 12

9:16 minutes of programming no matter what time of day 21 21 commercials of what length uh varying

9:28 between 15 and 60 so what they do here a lot is they'll have a a 60 and then they'll have another

9:37 commercial and they'll come back with a 15 second which is a like a little bonus for the one

9:43 previous so they'll you know they'll they'll do a thing for some chocolate and then there's

9:49 like washing powder and they'll say hey don't don't forget that chocolate it's really good

9:53 yeah i don't think we do that in the states anymore do we uh it's been done but it hasn't

10:01 it's not popular yeah uh so uh i do have uh a clip here about the extreme ban on burgers and

10:12 petrol and cruises from someone who is uh very disappointed that was just meat i didn't i'm

10:17 understanding it's all climate stuff it's it's anything that has to do with fossil fuel yes

10:23 cruise lines uh airlines uh petrol cars all of that is verboten now the dutch uh amsterdam

10:33 putting in place a ban that is so extreme it is attractive worldwide attention before i get to

10:40 that though certainly in recent years the netherlands has seen some pretty extreme policies

10:44 i mean in the name of the so-called green agenda and to comply with eu rules this is a very good

10:50 dutch government for some reason wanted to close down thousands of farms across the country to cut

10:57 down nitrogen pollution and even went this far that if farmers refused to sell up that the dutch

11:06 authorities would push ahead with compulsory purchases of farms to shut them down and what

11:13 you've now seen is this in amsterdam that there is now a ban in place for certain public adverts

11:23 so amsterdam now from the first of may so this is coming to effect now adverts for burgers petrol

11:31 cars air travel and cruises banned from appearing on billboards tram shelters or metro stations

11:40 because of the outlook on environmental targets from the amsterdam authorities who for some reason

11:47 want to reduce local meat consumption and yeah believe it or not this is now the policy being

11:55 implemented in amsterdam and things could get even more extreme in terms of amsterdam because

12:03 it seems now the city actually looking at banning cruise ships completely that they're going to look

12:11 to nc cruises by 2035 they've already decided to reduce the number of cruise ships allowed to dock

12:20 in amsterdam that nearly halved and they're now looking at banning cruise ships something that of

12:26 course will cost them a huge amount of money in terms of port and tourist taxes and what is not

12:35 reported is they've reduced the number of slots available at the airport so to fly direct to

12:43 amsterdam is is expensive it's i mean it's already expensive because of uh oil price and jet fuel

12:51 availability but there's even more i mean you look at the ticket it's 75 is taxes and fees and carbon

12:59 and and and extra airport fees just because they don't have enough slots for airplane this is a

13:05 this is a huge hub international airport the dutch are crazy and everyone's complaining about the

13:12 prime minister twinkle toes who who suckered all the young people in by by being um openly gay

13:21 like oh yes lgbtq it's going to be great and this kid all he does is stuff for rich people

13:27 so it's this is a country in decline sad to see that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard

13:37 Kill the cruise lines and then take an international hub of major importance and screw it?

13:47 Yeah.

13:47 That's exactly what they're doing.

13:49 Why?

13:49 To save the world.

13:52 For climate change?

13:53 Are they nuts?

13:54 Yes.

13:54 And check this.

13:55 So Taxi Eric, it isn't a full-blown law yet, but they're going to disallow all diesel cars and trucks from the city center.

14:06 and soon it will be i think that may already be in effect and most of these cabs you know

14:10 these mercedes cabs all used to drive on diesel of course because it's much cheaper here

14:16 um and so now they're going to ban uh petrol cars so he got a hybrid and he can drive about

14:24 a hundred kilometers on battery alone which is enough to drive into uh the city center and out

14:30 you know a couple times a day but they have so many electric vehicles and such a lack of

14:36 energy available and and grid capacity that he can't he can't even get a three-phase charger

14:44 at home he has to plug this thing into the wall and it takes four hours to charge something that

14:51 could charge in 25 minutes um and there are new homes being built that will never get electricity

14:58 they we can't extend the grid to these new homes where they already have hundreds of thousands of

15:05 homes in shortage because they've given it to all the asylum seekers this is crazy why people are

15:12 not revolting here i don't understand it was a long-term strategy i understand it now that's

15:21 That's why you legalized marijuana and magic mushrooms.

15:25 Woo!

15:26 It's all good, brother.

15:27 Yeah, there you go.

15:30 You nailed it.

15:31 You nailed it.

15:32 I don't know what they're going to do in...

15:35 Slick.

15:35 I don't know what they're going to do in Hungary.

15:37 Here's the latest update.

15:39 Now they got the new guy in.

15:41 It's a new era for Hungary.

15:43 Peter Modior is set to take his oath as prime minister

15:46 inside Budapest's neo-Gothic parliament.

15:49 He has called on Hungarians to mark the day with a huge party celebrating the end of the Orban era.

15:55 We must immediately begin putting our country back in order,

16:00 bringing home EU funds, restarting the economy and improving public services,

16:05 as well as healing the wounds caused over recent decades,

16:09 reunifying the Hungarian nation and, of course, ensuring justice

16:14 so that those who committed the crimes of the previous system are held accountable.

16:18 Was it that bad?

16:20 Did we just miss all the reporting?

16:21 I thought everyone loved Orbán.

16:23 They did.

16:26 The corruption, I think, got too much or ramped up.

16:32 I have a report from the BBC.

16:34 It's similar.

16:34 Okay.

16:35 Hold on a second.

16:36 Let me see.

16:37 Is it under Hungary?

16:39 Why, yes, it is.

16:41 Okay.

16:41 A town in Japan has removed its longtime mayor because it's unconscious.

16:46 The town assembly of Hachirogata in the northeastern Akita prefecture passed...

16:52 Wait a minute. Why does it say Hungry New Guy?

16:54 Why am I hearing stuff about Japan?

16:56 That's what I'd like to know.

16:57 Do you think it's still coming, or do you have a Japan clip that might be...

17:04 I never heard this clip.

17:05 This is under your clip. It says, Hungry New Guy won BBC.

17:10 Interesting.

17:12 What a place you have.

17:13 No confidence motion against the mayor, who's been on medical leaves and suffering a brain hemorrhage in February.

17:19 It means he'll automatically lose his position in 10 days.

17:23 The problem in Hungary is they're now speaking Japanese.

17:25 We've got a real situation on our hands.

17:27 Oh, here we go.

17:29 It's a bad edit.

17:30 It was a moment of pomp and ceremony in Budapest today.

17:35 a fanfare sounded as new members of parliament came into the plenary chamber

17:40 to watch Peter Modja, who won a landslide victory in last month's general election,

17:45 being sworn in as prime minister.

17:47 In his inaugural speech, Mr Modja said one of his government's first steps

18:04 would be to create an independent office to investigate corruption over the past 20 years.

18:10 That's the period covering the government of his predecessor, Viktor Orban.

18:14 Afterwards, Mr. Modzsa gave another speech to his supporters outside the parliament,

18:19 saying his premiership would mark a new beginning for his country.

18:25 Take it with you, take this day with you as a memory, and remember this day for your whole life.

18:35 Maybe one day you will show it to your children, to your grandchildren, that this is how it was, this is how it was in 2026, the first day of the free and democratic Hungary.

18:53 All right, all right.

18:54 Okay, well, new guys.

18:56 You know, the funny thing is, you know, the people,

18:58 I think they did like Orban to a point,

19:00 but I guess the scandals were too much.

19:03 But the other thing is,

19:05 wasn't Orban going to be a dictator for life

19:09 and he was never going to be removed?

19:10 Yeah, there was some of that.

19:12 Typical, it's the same thing with Trump.

19:14 You know, the guy's going to stay in office forever.

19:16 Of course, I like the fact that Trump jokes about it.

19:18 It's funny.

19:20 He had some joke the other day about it.

19:22 He says, well, maybe in about a decade when I'm not in office anymore.

19:27 We played it on the show.

19:28 It was about his...

19:29 Oh, okay.

19:29 Yeah, play it again.

19:30 No, don't play it again.

19:31 No, I'm not going to play it again.

19:32 What I'm going to play is I got some brand new hot off the press stuff from this morning,

19:36 from the Sunday morning shows.

19:37 Thank you to Steve, the clip collector.

19:40 We got to talk about Hanta virus.

19:42 I mean, everyone's talking about the Hanta.

19:45 Hanta is where it's at.

19:46 You know, it's funny, before you play that, there's been a couple of pieces going around

19:51 thing claiming yes the whole thing is a fake oh i haven't seen that the whole thing is yeah the

20:00 whole thing is bogus the people that have died didn't die of hanta oh and this just is a complete

20:04 creation to try to get people no i can i can assure you the dead dutch people are really dead

20:11 well they might be dead but are they dead from hanta oh well one of them did somebody apparently

20:17 he died of old age it happens to the best of us now what i love about this is we're just

20:27 rewinding the movie we're inserting a new word we're bringing back the same puppets who do you

20:33 want to talk to right away when there's something deadly going on peter hotez no that's when we're

20:40 that's we don't have a vaccine yet we're not there yet what do you mean you know they got 15 in the

20:45 works right we got to go back to the genesis who was the first guy you need you need the first guy

20:52 come on well it's not fauci no it's osterholm osterholm oh oh that guy i'm joined now by one

21:01 of the top infectious disease specialists in the country dr michael osterholm the one who scared

21:07 our wits scared us out of our wits when we started with the covid even before the guy you ran into

21:13 At Rogan, yeah, when Rogan was still in Los Angeles.

21:17 Yeah, exactly.

21:17 And he was like, oh, yeah, oh, it's really bad.

21:20 Oh, millions are going to die.

21:21 Of the University of Minnesota, it's good to see you this morning.

21:24 Thank you.

21:24 Most Americans, of course, had never even heard of the Hanta virus.

21:28 So you can understand the kind of fear.

21:31 But we are.

21:32 What's his name?

21:33 What's his name?

21:34 His wife died of it.

21:35 Was the actor Gene Hackman's wife died of Hanta virus.

21:40 It was all over the news.

21:42 We've heard of it.

21:43 Well, it's interesting you bring that up.

21:45 Is she kidding?

21:45 It's interesting you bring that up because, yes, that was one of the things that I was curious about myself.

21:52 I think we actually have a clip still.

21:56 Where is it?

21:58 Hmm.

22:00 I'll find it.

22:00 I've been told again and again this is not COVID-19.

22:03 Don't worry.

22:04 You're among those people saying that.

22:06 Yes, thank you.

22:07 And first of all, happy Mother's Day to you.

22:08 Thank you.

22:09 Bye-bye-bye.

22:09 In fact, the good news is that since it is hantavirus and not another coronavirus or influenza virus,

22:16 this is one that has very limited ability to be transmitted person to person.

22:20 In fact, it's a rare exception.

22:21 And so we have no question about the fact that this really is on the end of its run right now.

22:27 And there are very possibly maybe no additional cases from here on out.

22:31 And I know originally you catch it from rat feces or urine.

22:37 How many cases?

22:38 Why doesn't she just say rat poop, feces?

22:40 People don't understand that word anymore, Martha.

22:43 Feces are there generally.

22:45 Good point.

22:45 Yeah, just say rat poop.

22:46 It's okay.

22:47 I think you're right.

22:48 I don't think people know what the word feces means.

22:50 I think it's too technical for Americans these days.

22:54 Just call it rat poop.

22:55 And you hear her thinking about it.

22:58 Like, shall I say rat poop?

22:59 Shall I say rat turd?

23:01 Shall I?

23:02 Oh, feces.

23:02 Can you catch it from rat feces?

23:05 You see how she...

23:06 Yeah, you're right.

23:07 It's that one beat.

23:08 You catch it from rat feces or urine.

23:14 How many cases are there generally in a year?

23:17 In the United States, there are about 30 cases a year on average.

23:21 And they mostly occur west of Mississippi.

23:24 About 96% are west of Mississippi.

23:26 And it has to do with the kind of mouse that lives west of Mississippi.

23:29 Wait a minute.

23:30 Wait a minute.

23:30 Now, we switch all of a sudden from rat to mouse.

23:33 Yeah.

23:34 I don't like it.

23:35 I don't like that.

23:36 And now he says it's west of the Mississippi because of a certain kind of mouse?

23:40 Yeah.

23:41 What happened to rat?

23:43 The rats are out.

23:45 Mississippi, a deer mouse.

23:47 And they're the ones that really contain the virus.

23:49 In terms of what happens around the rest of the world, it's different with different strains of hantavirus.

23:53 And the one that really raised our concerns with this boat-related transmission is the one from South America.

24:00 Ah, you hear what he's saying here?

24:02 would really raise our concerns with this boat-related transmission.

24:06 So he's being sneaky about this.

24:10 Yeah, you're talking about the Andean strain.

24:13 Yes, and that is hemorrhagic.

24:16 The Andean strain is like Ebola, Zika, without the small heads.

24:22 Not Zika. Zika's not hemorrhagic.

24:24 Oh.

24:24 It's the other one, the Marfan, Marbury.

24:29 Marbury, yeah.

24:31 Marborough, the Marborough.

24:32 we got it we nailed it people nailed it concerns with this boat related transmission is the one

24:40 from south america which is called the andeus train and that one actually on occasion has

24:45 resulted in person-to-person transmission uh-huh you see he's caging it he's being careful but

24:50 yeah he's slippery this one and sneaking it in yeah he's sneaking it in and supposedly you aren't

24:56 passing that or transmitting that unless you're symptomatic right right now you can

25:02 manage the individuals who've been exposed very simply by asking oh how can we manage what do you

25:07 think we can manage them with come on come on what can we manage what what is the way to manage every

25:12 virus by the way i want to stop the clip what did he say was the number of cases every year 30

25:18 as of the end of 2023 690 cases of hanta virus have been reported in the united states

25:29 oh okay since surveillance began in 93 okay probably it's possible all right asking them

25:34 twice a day are you experiencing any kind of a fever and then take the temperature do you have

25:39 any symptoms if somebody is identified right at that point from your eyes you can put basically

25:45 an n95 mask on oh okay back to the n95 mask oh no we know this doesn't stop anything of the kind

25:54 And stop all transmission.

25:55 All transmission stops with an N95.

25:58 So this is why we don't need this high-tech, you know, containment facilities, et cetera, to monitor these people.

26:04 We can monitor them very simply.

26:05 And should they stay home?

26:07 I know these 17 Americans are coming back.

26:09 Shelter in place.

26:10 Going to Nebraska, they will be checked.

26:11 Self-isolate.

26:12 And then they're sent home.

26:15 And this is just a trust thing?

26:17 Just check your fever?

26:18 Are you happy with that?

26:19 Well, you know, it's not actually just a trust thing.

26:21 In a sense, people really do respond to participating in this for their own health as well as the health of those around them.

26:28 We've had a lot of experience with this in the past. Ebola was a good example.

26:31 When we had all returning health care workers coming back from Africa back in 2015 to 2017, we monitored them twice a day for their temperature and for any symptoms.

26:42 And that worked very, very well. So I have complete confidence that we will have good compliance here.

26:47 And I think within days, this will no longer be a story.

26:51 Okay. All right. Within days, it will no longer be a story. Why would you even say that? This is how he gets on TV. I would say, check back in a few days. We'll see if it's no longer a story. Okay. He's certain. One more clip with him.

27:03 Even the people who were let off the ship earlier at the end of April and are now some of them back in the United States. No worries there.

27:11 No worries there in the sense that they're going to be monitored now as they weren't before.

27:15 Oh, no worries because we can monitor them.

27:18 But again, none of them have had any symptoms, onsets, have had no suggestion of infection.

27:22 The same is true with all the individuals disembarking right now today.

27:27 There's no evidence any of those individuals were sick.

27:30 And if you look at what happened, the first person that came on the ship brought it with them.

27:35 And you can basically explain all the cases that have occurred to date around exposure just to that one individual, not to multiple people transmitting the virus.

27:43 Thanks so much for joining us this morning.

27:45 Put us at ease.

27:46 Thank you.

27:47 Thank you.

27:47 Yes, at ease. You're right, John. We go back to March of 2025. It wasn't all that long ago. Here was the report we played on the show.

27:55 Tonight, New Mexico authorities with tragic revelations to a week-long mystery, saying Gene Hackman died of heart disease and complications from Alzheimer's, likely a week after his wife Betsy died of the rare, deadly disease hantavirus.

28:09 The cause of death for Mr. Gene Hackman, aged 95 years, is hypertensive and atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, with Alzheimer's disease as a significant contributory factor.

28:23 The cause of death for Ms. Betsy Hackman, aged 65 years, is Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome.

28:32 Pulmonary Syndrome.

28:33 Now, I think that's the, isn't that the Andes version?

28:38 That's what I, no.

28:39 I'm not sure at this point.

28:42 Oh, I'm not sure either.

28:44 Well, here's the thing that I've been.

28:47 One is pulmonary and the other one is internal organs or something.

28:51 So here's the thing that I haven't seen any reporting on, surprise.

28:56 In the Pfizer document, the one that was FOIA, the one that was supposed to be locked up for 70 years.

29:04 95.

29:05 95 years.

29:08 hantavirus pulmonary infection is on the adverse event special interest list what yes for the

29:20 pfizer vaccine the rna vaccine is there are they so careless when they manufactured that they got

29:29 hantavirus in the vaccine you think well first of all it's on page 33 which just tickles me

29:35 okay that's good news so i'm feeling better already um but the so there's two ways of

29:44 looking at i don't think hantavirus was included in it the way i read it and it's it's a very

29:51 technical document so we'll have to have other people read it and tell us what what we're seeing

29:55 here the way i read it is that if you have had hantavirus which could be a mild case you got a

30:03 fever you know some rat poop slipped into your yogurt you know whatever you didn't die you didn't

30:08 die it happens especially if you're west of the mississippi you know eating texas by the way

30:14 waffle house waffle house that it can then bring back the exact same symptoms that you had

30:22 from hantavirus so the hantavirus is kind of dormant inside of you perhaps wow it sounds like herpes

30:33 yes like bad bad mexican food it comes back all of a sudden yes um which doesn't make any sense

30:42 but okay well this is this is but go ahead kara this is what i'm reading so that would kind of

30:49 make sense if you think about gene hackman's wife think she was vaxxed do you think these people

30:55 were back oh absolutely are you kidding this or she was so this is what could possibly create

31:02 something that looks like a pandemic which would be in fact a pandemic of death

31:08 so i'm not so cavalier about all i see what you're saying what you're saying is that because

31:17 there could be numerous maybe thousands of cases of of dormant antivirus infections out there

31:27 because of the nature of it based on this paper yep page 33 hello uh it's possible that they could

31:36 all be triggered yes by the covet shot yes exactly and then you can use that as leverage

31:46 wow for another fake pandemic check it out this warning sits you you nailed it this warning sits

31:54 alongside about 20 herpes family virus reactivation uh symptoms also zika guillain-barre

32:05 and there's 1300 other adverse event of special interest categories that pfizer was cataloging

32:13 as known events from day one in the document they wanted to hide for almost 100 years

32:19 and so so this is the gift that keeps on giving imagine my surprise when who shows up on cbs this

32:30 morning come on you know who that is now botes no who's the who's the pfizer douche oh yeah the

32:39 guy who's on the board for more now we turn to former fda commissioner dr scott gottlieb he also

32:44 serves on the boards of pfizer and united health care welcome back doctor thank you so there he

32:52 already sounds bad doesn't he like he's like welcome back donald it's almost like he's rolling

32:57 his eyes like i gotta do this again or or maybe he's like i hope they don't ask about that document

33:02 please don't ask about the document whatever you do don't ask about the document welcome back doctor

33:07 thank you so there have been three deaths linked to the outbreak here in the u.s there are six

33:14 states monitoring potential exposure all either linked to the ship itself or flights of people

33:20 who have been on the ship and then those 17 americans do you agree with the cdc and the

33:27 world health organization that the risk to public health is low oh yeah yeah i do agree with that

33:34 We have to concede that there are still things we don't know about this virus.

33:37 We haven't had to grapple with many outbreaks in the past.

33:40 There's been two large outbreaks in Argentina.

33:41 But based on that experience, what we know is that typically for transmission, you have to have close contact.

33:47 We also know that people typically aren't contagious unless they have showing signs of the infection itself in what we call the prodromal phase.

33:54 Prodromal?

33:55 We have never heard of the prodromal phase.

33:58 No, I've never heard this.

33:59 This is new.

33:59 where they start to have an onset of symptoms and the progression from that onset of symptoms to

34:04 severe disease and in these cases death is typically just days this is a very aggressive

34:10 virus and so based on what we know the transmission risk is low now that said

34:14 when you look back at the past experience there are these outlier cases where there appears to

34:18 have been transmission among people who weren't perceived to be in close contact and so there are

34:23 these cases that we need to look at closely from the past experience and just be wary that perhaps

34:29 There's things we don't know fully about this virus.

34:31 I will say that we are nearing the end of the transmission window for the transmission window.

34:36 What is he? Is he broadcasting now to this to the satellite transmission window is almost closed that we need to look at closely.

34:45 Yeah, I think so.

34:46 In the past experience. And just be wary that perhaps there's things we don't know fully about this virus.

34:51 I will say that we are nearing the end of the transmission window for the people who are being repatriated here in the US.

34:57 And so it looks to me like the last death on that cruise ship was May 2nd.

35:02 That patient had an onset of symptoms on April 28th.

35:04 If you believe that the incubation period is about...

35:09 If you believe? How about some science, Dr. Gottlieb? What is this believe crap?

35:14 The cruise ship was May 2nd. That patient had an onset of symptoms on April 28th.

35:18 If you believe that the incubation period is about two to six weeks, they'll be at the peak of that incubation cycle.

35:26 some point this week. So I think we're about two weeks away from knowing whether or not there'll

35:30 be additional cases that come from that initial outbreak on the cruise ship. Well, hold on a

35:35 second. That contradicts what Osterholm said. He said, nah, it's over. This is done. This is toast.

35:41 Now, Gottlieb is giving us two weeks transmission window space. I don't like this at all. And of

35:49 course, the one thing that will not help, do not listen to the internet. Whatever you do,

35:55 Whatever you do, do not. I mean, telling you, do not take horse dewormer.

36:01 So a key moment here. I mean, the WHO said it's very clear this is not covid all over again.

36:08 But as you know, it has ignited some of the very same skeptics who during the pandemic really questioned our government institutions and the response.

36:19 The WHO has said there is no research that ivermectin is an effective treatment for the virus.

36:25 There's no research. It doesn't say that it's not effective.

36:31 There's no research. Well, of course not.

36:33 We've never had an outbreak of antivirus.

36:36 I'm wondering what you make of these calls for alternative treatments and resistance of government health advice.

36:45 There's no treatment. What alternative treatment is this?

36:49 this might be a primary treatment these people make me mad according to the i'm sorry but

36:56 according to the ivermectin freaks uh ivermectin the hantavirus is another rna yes virus which are

37:07 very easily thwarted by ivermectin ivermectin man it'll heal your broken elbow i mean ivermectin is

37:15 All you need when you travel is ivermectin and gaffer tape and you're good to go.

37:20 Look, I think we're going to be relitigating the consequences of COVID for a long time.

37:26 And I think a lot of people who are in public health positions right now believe that their tenure and their appointment to these positions is a referendum on COVID in some respects.

37:34 And so that goes through their public comments.

37:36 This is not COVID.

37:37 It's not going to spread like a pandemic virus like COVID did, like a coronavirus did.

37:41 It spreads far less efficiently.

37:43 there aren't any treatments successful treatments for this virus ivermectin certainly isn't a

37:48 an effective treatment just by virtue of its mechanism it doesn't work against this virus

37:52 it prevents viral replication in the nucleus not the cytoplasm of this virus replicates it's just

37:57 not going to work what is it what well wait a minute it makes it sound like it did work against

38:03 other things what did he just say he said how nucleus it works it does work then in some

38:11 situation in the nucleus of the microplasm it doesn't work against this virus it prevents viral

38:17 replication in the nucleus not the cytoplasm of this virus replicates it's just not going to work

38:22 so i would encourage people not to use that i know that there's been some things on social media

38:26 yeah i'm suggesting that people should stockpile ivermectin we don't have an effective treatment

38:30 for hantavirus and that way that's what makes this very menacing now wait you said that there's 15

38:36 hantavirus uh vaccines already in the making is that yeah yeah is that true or you just said that

38:42 off the no that's absolutely true that many so the army's got one the navy's got there's all

38:49 these different ones there's a big list of them floating around people were mocking the list

38:54 now if i were the global the the the global liberal world order and i'm hating everything

39:06 trump is doing he's wrecking our party he's screwing it up with what he's doing with oil

39:13 he's screwing it up with the banking he's screwing up he's he's you know he doesn't want to help

39:18 ukraine he's he's not playing ball with us why wouldn't they just pull the same trick they did

39:27 in 2019 you're telling me no one has has has tabletop this no one has war gamed it and said

39:34 in fact that two weeks ago there was a uh one of those things that you always like to bitch about

39:40 um yeah the the war game exercise there was an exercise what was that what was that original

39:47 called for COVID. E40201?

39:50 Event 201?

39:51 Event 201.

39:52 Event 201, yeah.

39:53 I mean, wouldn't you just...

39:57 I mean, these are the exact

39:58 same people. Wouldn't they be like,

40:00 oh, this is great. We can get rid of that Trump.

40:03 I don't think they can

40:04 pull this one off. You can't do it with

40:06 the virus. Well, they've already got him

40:08 in a bad situation.

40:09 You know, it's like,

40:11 come on, boys. We can do better than this.

40:14 Listen to the gaggle.

40:17 Yes, I have.

40:17 Well, I think you're going to be told everything, and you already have.

40:23 It's very much, we hope, under control.

40:27 It was the ship, and I think we're going to make a full report about it tomorrow.

40:31 We have a lot of people, a lot of great people are studying it.

40:35 It should be fine.

40:36 We hope.

40:36 I hope not.

40:40 I mean, I hope not.

40:41 We'll do the best we can, yeah.

40:42 Yeah. And so a lot of great people. This was not left unturned, this stone by CBS and Gottlieb about a lot of great people.

40:51 You served in the first Trump administration as his FDA commissioner in the first term.

40:58 The person in that job now has been a guest on this program, Dr. Marty McCary.

41:03 He was a vocal critic of COVID response during Trump and Biden.

41:10 there's a lot of reporting right now that his current position, that he's at risk of losing

41:15 his job. Given how important the FDA is, they regulate, I saw, one-fifth of consumer spending

41:21 in this country. How damaging would it be to lose its leader? And is there someone who could

41:27 step in quickly? No one obvious to me. And there's been some reporting about different

41:34 candidates that could work on an interim basis there. Marty's a friend. I think that that's a

41:39 very difficult job. It, as you said, regulates about 20% of the U.S. economy, products that are

41:43 very important to people's lives, medical products, food, food safety. And so there's a lot of debate

41:49 and consternation about decisions that get made at FDA. And so it's been a controversial position

41:54 for whoever's held that job, including me. You know, I got criticized for decisions that I made

41:58 in that position as well. I think the continued upheaval at FDA has been detrimental to the

42:03 agency, not just the speculation about Marty's fate, but also the departures that we've seen

42:08 from the agency. The agency's lost thousands of medical reviewers, some voluntary through the

42:13 doge cuts or some forced through the doge cuts. Involuntary means some voluntary. There's been

42:19 a lot of voluntary departures from the agency. If you look at the oncology division, they had

42:23 a starting strength of about 100 medical reviewers at the beginning of this administration. They're

42:27 down to about 50. The hematological group that reviews drugs for leukemia and lymphoma had 21

42:33 medical reviewers and it's down to six reviewers these aren't doctors these are reviewers who

42:38 approve stuff you know they're pharma shills they lost an entire breast cancer review team

42:43 so there's been a lot of departures from the agency you've seen political appointees take

42:48 over what are typically career leadership positions running the medical product centers

42:52 the drug center and the biologic center so i think cumulatively that's taking a toll on the agency

42:57 and this continued speculation that we saw on friday i think is just going to be another step

43:01 downward yeah i'm just saying they're setting it up they're setting it up in case they need to if

43:06 they decide to pull the trigger all you need is the media all you need is a bunch of people who

43:11 have this adverse event what was it adverse event special investigation thing that reactivates this

43:21 hentavirus i mean it's it's clear that there's a lot of things going on with side effects of

43:27 i would say specifically the pfizer mrna hate to say it not with everybody for sure

43:34 praise god our two of our daughters are still good and they've they've been vaxxed to the hilt

43:39 lots of lots of boosters many boosters yes many many boosters it hurts my heart man so luckily

43:50 luckily they're okay now if you don't mind just want to stay on the pharma tip for a second

43:56 because I would have saved this for later on in the show,

43:59 but Gottlieb went into this,

44:02 and I have a couple of clips from a recent Maha Institute,

44:06 and this is the MK Ultra that we've been talking about of SSRIs.

44:11 And I don't think people understand how big of a disaster this is,

44:19 except for Kamala Harris's stepdaughter,

44:22 who paused from crocheting to think,

44:25 I've been on these things for over a decade. I wonder if there's something up with that.

44:29 So here's Gottlieb. He leads us right down the path.

44:32 I want to ask you about some of current leadership there.

44:36 Secretary Kennedy was speaking about the use of antidepressants in this country.

44:42 Almost 17 percent of Americans use them. He says they're overprescribed.

44:47 And he compared his experience of heroin withdrawal to a family member's experience getting off antidepressants known as SSRIs.

44:55 Take a listen.

44:55 I watched a family member get off of them after a couple of years on them.

45:02 And she was suicidal literally every day.

45:06 She woke up every morning and said, I don't want to live.

45:10 And she said, the only reason I'm staying alive is for you guys, for the family.

45:17 He later said that he was not telling people to stop if they're taking that medication.

45:23 But what do you make of his description of antidepressants as risky?

45:27 Look, these are prescribed in a primary care setting.

45:31 Like any drug that's prescribed in that setting, I'm sure there's some marginal prescribing, you know, isolated marginal prescribing.

45:38 What does that mean? Marginal prescribing? Does that mean overprescribing? Is that a tricky term?

45:45 I think what he means by marginal is that maybe the person doesn't need that drug, but they get it prescribed anyway.

45:52 They're on the margin.

45:53 But for most Americans who take these drugs, they're very important and in some cases life-saving.

45:58 And I would encourage everyone who is thinking about potentially stopping these medications based on the secretary's comments to consult their doctor.

46:05 There is a period of time that patients need to be weaned off these drugs.

46:08 They can be successfully weaned off these drugs if they can be, if you're lucky.

46:11 They want to be, and there's alternatives that could be effective for their mental health.

46:15 But nobody should just stop these drugs outright without being under the consultation of a medical provider.

46:20 I worry that the Secretary's comments is going to discourage legitimate use of these drugs in the same way that his comments around Tylenol discourage use of Tylenol in the setting of pregnancy,

46:29 where it could be very important for certain pregnant women who need pain relief and fever relief in that setting.

46:34 We saw a lot of women...

46:36 Oh, quick, quick, I love that little pivot.

46:38 Hey, these guys are stupid about Tylenol.

46:40 Don't talk about the SSRI.

46:42 Move away from those drugs, use those drugs, even appropriate use of those drugs.

46:46 Based on the secretary's comments about that, I worry about the same thing here.

46:49 It's clear that the secretary wants to put downward pressure on the prescribing.

46:53 He tried to implement regulatory steps to do that as well.

46:56 And so it is concerning.

46:57 So I got a couple of boots on the ground since we've been talking about this topic.

47:01 First one from Laurens.

47:03 And she is 35.

47:06 She lives in Amsterdam.

47:08 was put on Lexapro in 2021.

47:11 He says, I want to support your take on SSRIs

47:13 by sharing my own experience.

47:14 2021, I was 35.

47:16 A well-meaning doctor here in Amsterdam

47:18 put me on Lexapro, a strong SSRI.

47:20 It made me extremely agitated, not to mention aggressive.

47:23 And I'm normally a pretty relaxed person.

47:25 While I was taking this,

47:26 I started spending most of my weekends

47:28 drinking black coffee,

47:29 watching very violent video games on YouTube.

47:32 The kind of games where you're ripping monsters

47:34 in half with a chainsaw.

47:36 I had no interest in playing these games. I just enjoyed the graphic violence.

47:40 Again, normally I'm a pretty relaxed person, but these drugs made me aggressive and hypomanic.

47:49 SSRIs boost serotonin, and serotonin is a substance that makes you feel safe and dominant.

47:55 So it's not hard to imagine why this could lead to dangerous behavior.

47:58 Of course, doctors are not all aware, since these kinds of side effects can easily be attributed to something else.

48:03 maybe you're having a difficult time at work you just need to meditate and doctors mean well but

48:08 they don't have the time so maybe they just prescribe you some benzos which is not the same

48:12 as ssris to calm you down at any rate getting off ssris is its own form of torture with mood changes

48:20 brain zaps and lots of other fun stuff that will haunt you until the end of your days

48:26 getting off these drugs was absolutely the right thing for me and i think listening to the show

48:30 first put into my head how dangerous these drugs can be.

48:34 John, another score.

48:35 Pharmacology note, Lexapro, which the medical term is escitalopram,

48:45 is recognized as having one of the highest affinities

48:48 and top-tier selectivity for serotonin transport among SSRIs,

48:53 often considered the most typical or selective

48:55 due to its minimal binding to other receptors.

48:59 And so the Maha Institute, which is an RFK junior symposium, had this Dr. Anders Sorensen from, I think he's Norway or Denmark.

49:11 And he gave a little spiel, I clipped three, four short clips about SSRIs.

49:17 They're short.

49:18 One of them is 35 seconds, so they're short.

49:20 About SSRIs and getting off of them.

49:24 So, in 2018, a study was published in the BMJ

49:29 asking one very simple question.

49:31 Do parachutes reduce the risk of death

49:36 when jumping from an aircraft?

49:37 The researchers compared two groups,

49:41 one jumping with and one without.

49:43 The result, no significant difference between the groups.

49:49 Parachutes, it seemed, offer no protective effect

49:52 compared to those jumping without one.

49:54 But there was one small detail hidden in the methods section, which you, of course, always remember to read.

50:01 All participants had jumped from an aircraft parked on the ground from an average of half a meter.

50:08 And as the authors noted, one should be cautious in extrapolating their findings to real-world high-altitude jumps.

50:16 We might laugh at this silly study, but it stops being funny when you realize we're doing something very similar in psychiatry today.

50:25 Fast forward to 2025, a study in the American Journal of Medicine

50:29 compared how long antidepressants were studied in the randomized trials we rely on

50:34 compared to how long people actually take them.

50:36 The median duration of the trials was eight weeks,

50:41 meaning that most participants had only been on these drugs for two months.

50:45 And the median duration of real-world use in the U.S., five years.

50:53 So we're using short-term evidence to guide long-term treatment.

50:57 And that gap matters, especially when it comes to dependence and withdrawal.

51:02 Yeah. So you can already see where this is going.

51:06 That they have no idea how bad these things are, if you want to get off of them.

51:11 Since 1997, SSRI withdrawal has been described as mostly mild and self-limiting,

51:19 lasting a week or two,

51:20 mentioning only a handful of the more than 80 reported symptoms.

51:24 That's what the guidelines say,

51:27 because they're based on short-term trials far from reality.

51:31 So what happens in practice?

51:33 People who've been on these drugs for years, decades,

51:38 are tapered off as if they've been taking them for months,

51:42 often by aggressively halving the dose, halving again, and then stopping.

51:47 And when that goes wrong, which it often does, they call it a relapse of an underlying condition.

51:53 Conclusion, you still need the medication.

51:56 So back on the drug, symptoms resolve, and the therapeutic illusion is complete.

52:02 It looks like the drug is treating an underlying illness, when in fact, it might be just relieving withdrawal.

52:10 But before we conclude a relapse, which of course could be the case, withdrawal has to be ruled out first.

52:17 All right, so what are some of these symptoms?

52:19 What's confusing is that withdrawal from psychiatric drug isn't just physical symptoms.

52:24 It's not just dizziness, nausea, headaches, muscle pain, shaking, burning sensations, fatigue.

52:31 I mean, it's that too.

52:32 But it's also anxiety, insomnia, irritability, depressed mood, mood swings, brain fork, difficulty concentrating, intrusive thoughts.

52:42 Withdrawal can mimic relapse or new diagnosis.

52:47 for which there are also drugs.

52:49 The symptoms overlap.

52:51 And if you don't recognize withdrawal, you will misinterpret it.

52:55 SSRIs are definitely not harder to quit than heroin, says producer Tim.

53:00 That's only a commentary on heroin, not on SSRIs.

53:03 They're incredibly difficult to quit.

53:05 The long and short of it is you go incredibly crazy

53:08 in sort of a bipolar mood swing kind of way for the duration of your withdrawal,

53:13 which is about a month.

53:15 Medical best practice is to very precisely titrate off the dose over a span of several months.

53:20 But again, I found out the hard way.

53:22 A lot of doctors just don't know what they're supposed to do.

53:25 Final clip, which tells you the story that we already know from previous medications.

53:31 And we've been here before, historically.

53:34 We start with benzodiazepines, introduced first as safe and effective with minimal concern of dependence.

53:40 Until decades later, dependence and severe withdrawal became undeniable.

53:46 Then we saw it again with opioids.

53:47 Again, aggressively marketed as safe and effective for chronic pain until we had an epidemic.

53:52 The pattern is the same.

53:55 A new drug is introduced, framed as safe and effective, gets widely prescribed.

54:00 Then people start having trouble coming off it.

54:04 Then research begins to confirm what patients are experiencing.

54:08 But that research is pushed aside, ignored, because it challenges the prevailing paradigm.

54:13 It's textbook paradigm shifts from Thomas Kuhn's 1962 classic.

54:17 So prescribing continues, and recognition comes years, often decades later.

54:23 And then the cycle repeats with new safe and effective drought until we understand this.

54:29 The body doesn't care what we call the drug or what receptors it acts on.

54:35 It just adapts, setting the stage for withdrawal independence.

54:39 Yep, there it is.

54:43 uh i like the fact that we at least got one person off or at least to consider it you know some

54:50 couple years ago francine hardaway sent a note in oh goodness similar tale of woe about this we

54:55 haven't heard from dame francine in eons oh i stay in touch with her oh good how's she doing

55:02 she's writing a lot you mean she has a substance she's got she writes these these personal

55:10 anecdotes and she uh she's got about a book's worth of material oh wow does she still listen

55:17 to the show i doubt it uh so what so what did she uh what did she have to say oh she said these

55:23 things are the worst you can't get off them yeah well you can apparently but it's not easy

55:30 it's not easy yeah well maybe we'll save one more person you know there's a there is a

55:38 a presentation floating around on YouTube and I'll try to get it,

55:43 dig it up and,

55:44 and flip it,

55:46 get,

55:47 get it to the show notes of all these different drugs from Darvon to

55:51 Quaaludes to one thing after another.

55:54 I think there's like the top 25 drugs that have been taken off the market.

55:58 And,

55:59 and an underlying theme is,

56:01 well,

56:02 they had some data,

56:03 but they kept it to themselves.

56:05 It's like a theme.

56:08 The drug companies say, it's like, now you have to wonder what the deal is with some of these drugs.

56:16 Are doctors being, is there evidence that doctors are bribed?

56:20 I mean, the pediatric doctors are totally bribed to vex up the kids.

56:24 Well, they also-

56:25 Or they kick you out of a practice.

56:26 No, this system is clear.

56:28 The drug goes to all those people on the review team who Kennedy has fired and replaced.

56:38 Yeah, their former pharma people.

56:40 I'm talking about at the street level.

56:42 Are doctors being paid off to prescribe drugs?

56:48 No, but listen, this is what I'm saying.

56:50 The first part is it goes to the FDA.

56:54 The FDA has the shills.

56:56 The shills goes, yep, it looks good to me.

56:58 I mean, whatever you showed me, I don't want to see anything else.

57:01 That's good.

57:01 Then it gets a safe and effective approval.

57:04 Then the reps go to the doctors and they say safe and effective.

57:08 Would you like to buy some?

57:09 Would you like to serve this to your patients?

57:11 And here's a set of golf clubs.

57:14 And here's a speed.

57:15 We all saw the documentary.

57:16 And here's a party.

57:19 And here's a cruise.

57:20 And, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

57:21 Because they've been told it's safe and effective.

57:24 Their butts are covered by the FDA.

57:25 The whole system is crooked.

57:27 And I think RFK Jr. is doing something here.

57:31 It does seem like he's creating some awareness through a podcast.

57:36 Yay.

57:38 because you're not going to see it on CNN,

57:41 who live by this stuff.

57:43 That's the other part of it.

57:44 So, yeah.

57:45 So the doctors, they have, what is it?

57:50 What is the term?

57:51 About culpability.

57:57 I don't know.

58:01 Yes, you do.

58:03 There's a term that says,

58:05 liability, indemnification, are we talking about?

58:10 No, no.

58:11 It's like where you have a way to show that you couldn't have known

58:15 because you had the safe and effective.

58:16 Oh, yeah, right.

58:17 Plausible deniability.

58:18 Plausible deniability.

58:19 Thank you.

58:20 There you go.

58:21 Boomer moment for both of us.

58:22 Yes.

58:22 Not for me.

58:23 Okay.

58:26 For me, then, boomer adjacent moment.

58:29 Plausible deniability.

58:30 Yeah, it's sick.

58:31 It's sick, I tell you.

58:33 Sick, sick, sick, sick.

58:35 Well, it is bad.

58:36 Yeah.

58:36 It's very bad.

58:37 All right, let's get to politics.

58:38 Oh, woo!

58:39 Because big news.

58:42 In the UK?

58:43 Yeah.

58:44 Yeah, this was great.

58:45 Yeah, the UK, the labor, and the preface to these, I only have three clips, but you don't

58:52 need that much of it to understand what's going on.

58:54 The election took place.

58:56 The council elections.

58:58 This was live on television.

59:00 Yeah, it was the little boys.

59:01 The little local elections, yes.

59:04 And the labor just ate it.

59:06 And now everyone's predicting that both labor and the conservatives, they, conservatives, did not do well.

59:13 Nope. Nope.

59:15 That both these parties may be going the way of the, you know, the way of the dodo.

59:21 And maybe these new parties will be coming up, especially led by Farage's operation.

59:26 Yeah, the Reform Party.

59:30 Yeah, which he started because he basically quit the other one.

59:35 What was the one he started before?

59:36 What was it called?

59:36 He had another party.

59:38 Wasn't it the Brexit Party?

59:40 Wasn't that the Brexit Party?

59:41 No, no.

59:41 It was UK.

59:43 It's something that has some jazzy sound to it.

59:46 It was very similar to the Reform Party, but it was different.

59:48 And he had to quit it because there were too many nut balls that had joined it.

59:52 It happens.

59:53 Yeah, so he just started a new party, which has done quite well.

59:58 But let's play what's happening here, this election shift BBC.

1:00:02 The beleaguered British Prime Minister Keir Starmer has again insisted he isn't going anywhere

1:00:07 following the disastrous results for his governing Labour Party in English local elections

1:00:12 and the devolved parliamentary votes in Scotland and Wales.

1:00:16 I think we have to set out the path ahead, and that's what I intend to do in coming days,

1:00:22 how we rebuild, how we convince people about hope for the future.

1:00:27 and we haven't done enough of that, so I will be setting that out with clarity

1:00:32 about my convictions and my values, what drives me forward on this.

1:00:38 Keir Starmer has now invited two veteran Labour politicians to help rebrand his premiership,

1:00:44 including the former Prime Minister Gordon Brown.

1:00:46 But some MPs within the party are continuing to call for him to set a timetable for his departure

1:00:51 after Labour suffered huge losses, mainly to the right-wing Populist Reform Party.

1:00:57 Our UK political correspondent, Rob Watson, says it's a seismic shift in party allegiances.

1:01:03 The more I've reflected on it overnight, Alex, the bigger and the more significant it seems

1:01:08 because it really does seem as though the old order has crumbled and a new order is taking shape.

1:01:14 And I rate it up there as being as significant, this ending of the duopoly of Conservatives and Labour

1:01:20 with the creation of the welfare state after the Second World War in 1945,

1:01:25 With the Suez Crisis in the 1950s, where Britain ceased to be an imperial power after its humiliation,

1:01:30 Mrs. Thatcher coming to power in 1979, and the Brexit vote.

1:01:35 I think it is that big, it's that significant.

1:01:37 And while it's true that the Labour Party is flirting with that,

1:01:40 and will no doubt get rid of Keir Starmer in the not-too-distant future,

1:01:44 well, certainly between now and the next election.

1:01:46 It was the UK Independence Party.

1:01:49 Right.

1:01:50 UKIP.

1:01:52 I looked it up, too.

1:01:53 UKIP, yeah.

1:01:54 UKIP.

1:01:55 yeah they became nutty and so he bailed out after they tried to kill him remember they tried to kill

1:02:02 him with the plane crash yeah plane crash oh the plane crash right right right yeah of course they

1:02:09 always try to kill these people yeah but gandhi clipped you the factors driving this are just

1:02:16 unlikely to go away and they're three and they're not unique to britain the first one is

1:02:19 the economic squeeze i mean a lot of this anger is driven by voters feeling that their living

1:02:24 standards oh really that's the only thing really that's all that it is he that's that's just one

1:02:29 okay all right all right all right falling that wide about housing and the economic forecast for

1:02:34 the next decade suggest that britain is not going to grow so that's number one number two is just

1:02:40 kirsten's own personal unpopularity he is so unpopular i mean it is just extraordinary it's

1:02:47 almost off the scale no politician has ever come back from that and then the third one is what you

1:02:52 might call culture values issues identity issues and that is the anger that's out there in britain

1:02:58 as in so many other countries about immigration social cohesion multiculturalism how you treat

1:03:04 british history and that again does not look like dissipating oh did they not bring in the

1:03:10 mandelson epstein no no that was that was the big deal in in parliament interesting yeah but that

1:03:18 wasn't the reason people voted these guys out i don't think the british public at large gives a

1:03:24 shit about any of it in fact when i talked to orlowski about it he still thinks that mandelson

1:03:30 is still was still calling the shots uh at 10 downing from the get-go and continue to do so

1:03:37 after they fired him wouldn't surprise me that's uh andrew orlowski from the register friend of

1:03:42 the show well he no he's not at the register he said with the end he's with the uh london uh

1:03:48 telegraph now oh really oh he's moved up a notch so he's been writing for the telegraph for about

1:03:54 that's respectable six seven years that's a respectable paper yeah yeah okay so friend

1:04:00 of the show f-o-f-s f-o-t-s friend of the show he does listen to friend he will have heard me say

1:04:06 this friend of the show fots so he says that that's what and he claims that you know that

1:04:15 this mendelssohn guy is still in play and i'm thinking i don't think so but okay well what do

1:04:21 we know he's he's boots on the ground he's living yeah i know he's been right most of the time but

1:04:25 i don't i'm not buying that one let's go with the last clip one of the key policies of the reform

1:04:30 party which came out as the biggest winner in the elections in england is to combat illegal

1:04:35 immigration the uk home office says over the past eight years 200 000 migrants reached england

1:04:42 illegally by crossing the channel in small boats you know what what what kills me because i lived

1:04:48 in england they lock up your pets for six months minimum so yeah if you try to bring a dog to

1:04:56 england you might as well just forget it yes for six months 18 months they lock up your dog because

1:05:03 oh he might have rabies he might have rabies but hey he's illegal and they got no rabies

1:05:09 no hanta no nothing despite efforts to stop the boats including a recent 800 million dollar deal

1:05:16 with france the uk says the number of people making the journey has continued to rise

1:05:21 james watt has sent us this report the town of middle kirk represents a step change when you

1:05:28 cross the border on the northern coast from France into Belgium. It's an affluent area and the locals

1:05:35 here are facing a problem that really is new to them. Small boat migrant crossings. The West

1:05:41 Flanders deputy police chief, Christian de Ridder, is keen to nip it in the bud. We have to stop them

1:05:46 before they get to the UK and we have to find a way to stop them on the water. If we could put on

1:05:52 a naval barrier so they don't get into french water everything will stop

1:05:57 this this i don't have any more clips but it goes on and on with all these guys that are taking the

1:06:05 going across the you know i don't understand how you can go across the english channel in a small

1:06:10 boat i took the dunkirk ferry probably twice yeah it's before you know in the olden days in the like

1:06:17 the 70s and then you know then they but they went to a hovercraft which was cool a great way to get

1:06:23 across and then of course is the channel which is the way to go uh but that's the most sickening

1:06:31 ride i've ever had on a boat yeah there is churns it's bounces around i don't know how a little boat

1:06:37 can go across the english channel well that really depends on weather conditions well yeah i guess

1:06:42 They look for the right day to do it, but it's not a short trip either.

1:06:46 You'll recall that the Brits in World War II, I think it was World War II,

1:06:51 all these hundreds, maybe thousands of small boats cast off from Britain

1:06:58 to go pick up the troops who were locked and surrounded by the Germans in France,

1:07:05 and they picked them up and they sailed them all back.

1:07:07 And these were tiny little dinghies and all kinds of rowboats.

1:07:10 I don't know what kind of stuff they were doing.

1:07:12 I don't think they were always that small.

1:07:13 They were small.

1:07:14 They were small boats.

1:07:15 I know they went to do that.

1:07:16 Yeah.

1:07:17 And I've flown over the English Channel many times, smooth as glass.

1:07:21 Yeah, of course, if you fly over.

1:07:24 Well, but 5,000 feet, you know, being the Cessna, I'm looking down.

1:07:27 I'm like, oh, that's pretty nice.

1:07:28 Oh, please.

1:07:31 If anything.

1:07:31 What do you mean, oh, please?

1:07:33 That is a rough go getting across that channel.

1:07:36 It is not.

1:07:37 It can be.

1:07:38 There are people who swim across the channel.

1:07:41 lunatics i do have uh i do have uh two uh quick quotes here from uh nigel farage

1:07:53 here we go this is the most unpatriotic prime minister we've ever had in this country

1:07:59 heading the most unpatriotic british government we've ever had in this country and they're even

1:08:06 worse than the conservatives in the last five years and they weren't very good either and here

1:08:12 he is with a quick prediction i think if labor get obliterated in the red wall and in south wales

1:08:17 and in scotland uh then yeah he'll be gone by the end of may because the backbench will move

1:08:22 against end of may end of may end of may is what he's saying can we i had to throw in a little

1:08:27 aside here okay we picked up on nigel farage as a character of importance early on early on

1:08:35 A decade ago, well, it was 2009, probably.

1:08:37 150 years ago.

1:08:39 Yeah, it was a long time ago.

1:08:41 And we got grief from various UK listeners.

1:08:48 Yeah, they told us, he's an idiot, he's no good.

1:08:52 He's not going to care.

1:08:54 You're wasting your time following this guy's career.

1:08:56 You guys are off the mark.

1:08:58 Are you spiking the ball?

1:08:59 Is that what you're doing here?

1:09:00 Yeah.

1:09:03 I'm spiking the ball without a, we told you so, but it's like,

1:09:07 it's just like, it's, this is typical of this show.

1:09:12 Yes. We're on it. People hate us. I'm trying to say people hate us for years.

1:09:17 Some, for some reason they still listen. And then later they say, Hey man,

1:09:21 thanks for saving my life. But don't hate.

1:09:24 Value for value. People remember these valuable lessons.

1:09:31 So I picked up a clip, which luckily it's only a minute because the guy's kind of insufferable.

1:09:37 George Galloway.

1:09:39 George Galloway is totally insufferable.

1:09:42 But it's worth it in this case because he's on to something that's going on with Keir Starmer.

1:09:48 And Galloway, now he used to be a politician.

1:09:51 Was he labor?

1:09:53 I think he was labor.

1:09:53 He must have been labor, socialist.

1:09:54 Or a communist.

1:09:55 Commie, yeah.

1:09:56 He's a communist, basically.

1:09:57 Yeah, and I think he became a columnist.

1:10:00 Is he a columnist for The Guardian or something?

1:10:02 Well, he was on Big Brother.

1:10:03 It was all downhill from there.

1:10:05 So, yeah, he's no longer a columnist, John.

1:10:10 He's what everybody else is, a YouTuber.

1:10:12 He has what he thinks is a podcast because he's basically a YouTuber.

1:10:17 And here he is.

1:10:18 No part of the British media is covering the fact that at the end of this month,

1:10:23 Three Ukrainian rent boys are on trial for allegedly arsening the British Prime Minister, Keir Starmer.

1:10:34 Is that British?

1:10:34 Can you say arsening as like a verb?

1:10:36 Arsening?

1:10:39 Like lighting somebody on fire?

1:10:42 Yeah, arsening.

1:10:43 Is that a verb?

1:10:44 I thought arson was just...

1:10:46 Well, maybe it is.

1:10:48 Isn't it an adverb?

1:10:50 No.

1:10:50 Arsening.

1:10:51 I've never heard of...

1:10:53 Look it up.

1:10:53 Just type it into the browser.

1:10:56 It'll tell you.

1:10:56 Okay.

1:10:58 I never heard the usage, that usage before.

1:11:01 Let me see.

1:11:01 Hey, book of knowledge.

1:11:02 Is arsoning, can you say someone was arsoning someone else?

1:11:07 Okay.

1:11:10 It's a widely recognized term that may be misspelling or a variation of arsenic.

1:11:15 Poisoning.

1:11:17 Yeah.

1:11:17 Arsoning is a real verb form mainly used in India.

1:11:20 It's changed voices.

1:11:20 You can say someone was arsoning a building.

1:11:22 Most people just say committing arson, though.

1:11:24 Oh, all of a sudden.

1:11:25 Now, see, that's different than this.

1:11:27 This definition is widely recognized,

1:11:32 which is a misspelling or a variation of arsenic.

1:11:37 It does have a specific definition, blah, blah, blah, it goes on.

1:11:42 Okay, all right, back to the clip, then, because this is getting fun.

1:11:44 Red boys, massage artists, male models,

1:11:48 every one of them a Ukrainian, is charged with arsening two separate residences, two separate

1:11:56 vehicles. Now, if this were happening to me or any other citizen in the land, every person in Britain

1:12:02 would be fully conversant and would be speculating wildly on exactly why these Ukrainian rent boys

1:12:10 allegedly arsoned the British prime minister.

1:12:14 But not one news report has occurred

1:12:18 into the extraordinary circumstances

1:12:20 of a serving British prime minister

1:12:22 being singled out for reasons we know not why.

1:12:26 Allegedly by three Ukrainian rent boys.

1:12:29 And very pretty boys.

1:12:30 The men are pleading not guilty.

1:12:32 They may very well be innocent,

1:12:33 but they may very well have to be cross-examined.

1:12:37 But by the end of the trial,

1:12:39 will know one whole lot more about just what they had held against the British Prime Minister.

1:12:45 That's horrible.

1:12:46 But I can't talk like that if I wanted to.

1:12:51 Now, so the press has started to pick up on it.

1:12:54 They don't call them rent boys, but there is a story.

1:12:58 The trial of three men accused of conspiring to commit arson against two properties and...

1:13:03 This is proper.

1:13:05 Conspiring to commit arson, not arsoning them.

1:13:08 A vehicle linked to the Prime Minister has started today at the Old Bailey.

1:13:12 Now, the three defendants, two Ukrainians and a Romanian, appeared in the dock this morning.

1:13:17 And they are Roman Lavrinevich, a 22-year-old, Petro Potranok, who's 35, and the 27-year-old Stanislav Karpuik.

1:13:26 Now, they have been charged with conspiring to commit arson.

1:13:30 And Roman Lavrinovich is also facing two further charges of committing arson with intent to endanger life.

1:13:38 Now, all three defendants deny all of the charges set against them.

1:13:41 Now, listen to this.

1:13:42 The prosecution here, opened by Duncan Atkinson Casey, went through the three arson attacks in turn,

1:13:49 starting with a Toyota set ablaze in the early hours of the 8th of May,

1:13:54 and then a residential property on Ellington Street in Kentish Town on the 11th of May,

1:14:00 And finally, the third arson attack, another residential property, also in Kentish Town, on the 12th of May.

1:14:08 They said it was immediately clear when the London Fire Brigade and the police attended the second of those arson attacks that had been set on fire purposely.

1:14:17 And that in both of the properties where fires had been started, smoke and flames had entered the houses, endangering the lives of those within them.

1:14:27 Now, the prosecution went through some of the data and information

1:14:32 they had collected on the defendants to build the case,

1:14:35 including telegram chats, locations, and images as well.

1:14:40 Now, there were discussions held between the defendants about these arson attacks,

1:14:46 and there was also a discovery on the telegram end-to-end encrypted platform.

1:14:51 How does that work?

1:14:52 Where the defendants were speaking with a Russian-speaking telegram account

1:14:56 called L-Money.

1:14:58 The jury were told not to consider

1:15:00 any ideological or political motivation

1:15:03 behind these arson attacks.

1:15:06 Instead, stating that they were motivated by money,

1:15:10 not by any political or ideological reasons.

1:15:15 There you go.

1:15:15 L-Money is the Russian pimp.

1:15:17 And Starmer Stiff, the rent boys.

1:15:21 So to speak.

1:15:26 didn't didn't pay him so they decided to burn it down i think galloway's onto something here

1:15:30 maybe yeah then that would that would fall right in line with mandelson tricks

1:15:37 because he's all about the rent boys everything is

1:15:42 fishy everything is literally fake and gay at this point it's amazing

1:15:47 so i have a africa clip well there goes the audience

1:15:54 well there's it leads to an ask adam oh boy okay now the africa clip is short well it's not that

1:16:03 short but it's just nigeria something's up in nigeria and i think if you read between the lines

1:16:09 on this nigeria clip this is just another attempt to get a stranglehold on the oil production of

1:16:17 nigeria nigeria producing african nation yeah go uh nigeria vance is that the one we're playing

1:16:26 here yeah yeah it's the only one i got nigeria and the united states have agreed to deepen

1:16:30 cooperation on security and counter terrorism following high-level talks in washington the

1:16:36 renewed diplomatic push comes amid a surge in deadly attacks in nigeria particularly in plateau

1:16:42 and Benue states, where hundreds have been killed and communities displaced.

1:16:46 Chris Iwoko reports from Abuja.

1:16:49 A statement from Nigeria's presidency said that the National Security Advisor, Nuhuri Badu,

1:16:55 met senior U.S. officials, including the Vice President, J.D. Vance,

1:16:59 and the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.

1:17:02 Both sides agreed to expand intelligence sharing, defense cooperation, and regional security efforts.

1:17:07 Discussions reportedly focused on counterterrorism

1:17:10 and the deteriorating security situation in West Africa and the Sahel,

1:17:14 where jihadists have been attacking in several countries.

1:17:17 Nigeria had already committed to tackling terrorism and violent extremism

1:17:21 in the fight against Boko Haram and the Islamic State West Africa province.

1:17:25 Well, isn't this just about the mines, the gold, the minerals?

1:17:29 I think that and the oil.

1:17:31 Is oil in West Africa? Is that in Nigeria?

1:17:35 I believe there's oil in Nigeria. I think Nigeria is a major producer, if I'm not mistaken.

1:17:39 Well, there's also, they're killing Christians.

1:17:41 Yeah, that's all happening in Nigeria.

1:17:42 Yeah, well, they didn't have that in the report.

1:17:44 But what's interesting to me, this was a Vance and Rubio, which they usually kept apart.

1:17:50 Hmm.

1:17:51 Hmm.

1:17:53 I don't know what that's all about.

1:17:55 It's a contest to see who can do better at Nigeria.

1:17:59 And that will help determine who Trump is going to support for 2028.

1:18:03 I think Trump's going to stay out of it.

1:18:06 Ask Adam.

1:18:07 Ask Adam.

1:18:08 Yeah.

1:18:09 all right ask adam i'm ready for you this is a i'm going to ask you before we play the clip

1:18:13 because it's in the the answer is in the clip okay because i was kind of surprised by this myself

1:18:19 okay how many languages are spoken on the continent of africa

1:18:24 ask adam ask adam will he know or really won't i don't know but here we go ask adam

1:18:33 answer the question go uh how now first of all africa is big it's big it's big there's a lot of

1:18:42 tribes so i'm i'm gonna go i'm going to bet all of my money in this round you're all in i'm all in

1:18:52 i'm all in on this round of jeopardy i'm going to say 537 languages on the continent of africa

1:19:01 or play the clip all right we did a series of children child presenters 14 of them from across

1:19:07 africa and i'm blown away by how it's not just the audience who related to these kids

1:19:13 it's how those kids became fanatic conservationists because they were selected for their stage

1:19:20 presence to be hosts of a tv show about wildlife so i do think that local relevance and resonance

1:19:27 with the people on the ground is very important.

1:19:29 And in a continent like Africa,

1:19:31 where we have over 2,000 languages,

1:19:33 we need people to be telling the stories

1:19:36 in all those languages

1:19:37 and bringing in our cultural knowledge.

1:19:39 Wow.

1:19:40 Well, luckily my fellow contestants

1:19:42 were all like 20, 35, a bunch of losers.

1:19:45 Over 2,000.

1:19:46 I go to Final Jeopardy.

1:19:47 That's not a tip of the day.

1:19:49 That is our little factoid

1:19:51 that people can now use to bet money.

1:19:53 This is a money maker.

1:19:55 Wow, over 2,000.

1:19:57 Man.

1:19:59 And do you think that one tribe could understand the other one?

1:20:03 I'm sure there's always probably one guy.

1:20:07 There's a polyglot in every group that can speak three or four of these languages.

1:20:11 He's a superstar, you know.

1:20:12 2,000?

1:20:13 2,000?

1:20:14 Over 2,000.

1:20:15 That's a lot.

1:20:16 Yeah, I'd like to see a list.

1:20:19 That's crazy.

1:20:20 They probably can't even call them.

1:20:22 They don't even have names.

1:20:23 Hey, so since you brought up Rubio, we both brought up Rubio and Vance, and you think Trump's going to stay out of it.

1:20:32 Very possible.

1:20:33 I got a couple of clips about Tucker.

1:20:38 Actually, one with Tucker.

1:20:40 Oh, after I did all these Tucker things that you groused about.

1:20:44 Yeah, but I'm bringing new stuff to the table.

1:20:46 You know, you just bring an old hat.

1:20:47 Yes, I groused about.

1:20:51 Did you say old hat?

1:20:53 Old hat, yes, old hat.

1:20:54 Oh, man.

1:20:55 Another boomer-adjacent term here on the No Agenda Show.

1:21:00 He had Massey on, again, Massey, to complain.

1:21:04 Oh, yeah, Massey's under attack.

1:21:06 Yes, and that's why he went on Tucker.

1:21:09 So I have a short clip first of, it's the Massey disappointment list.

1:21:14 But Trump's have changed dramatically.

1:21:16 At least the disconnect between what he said he was going to do and what he's doing is shocking.

1:21:21 I, you know, when I endorsed him, I thought we wouldn't have a new war.

1:21:25 I thought we would get warrants for FISA that they had used to spy on him.

1:21:30 I thought that Maha would be front and center at the HHS with Bobby Kennedy there.

1:21:38 I thought that we would have sane foreign policy.

1:21:42 I thought that where we put America first, that's my definition of sane.

1:21:46 I thought we would end our involvement in the war in Ukraine.

1:21:51 I thought we would release all the Epstein files

1:21:53 and indict some of those SOBs.

1:21:55 And those are all the things I'm still fighting for.

1:22:00 Do you think Massey, is he a little blinded by his hatred?

1:22:05 Because, I mean, I see Maha doing something.

1:22:12 I think Maha is doing all it can do.

1:22:15 It's up against the most powerful forces in the United States.

1:22:21 big pharma force that that owns the media and are we still what does he expect maha to do i mean i'm

1:22:28 super disappointed they haven't you know just stopped it tv advertising that would make a

1:22:32 difference yeah but i mean have we not withdrawn from the ukraine war have we not withdrawn from

1:22:38 that i think we haven't withdrawn from it i mean we're not we're not really in the ukraine war

1:22:44 no but he says well we should get out of the ukraine war we're not in it we're selling stuff

1:22:51 I don't know.

1:22:51 I think he's a little blinded by hatred.

1:22:54 I don't think he's a hater.

1:22:56 I think he's just like he's an ideologue.

1:23:00 And he has his, you know, and he's kind of a stick in the mud.

1:23:06 So New York Magazine has a big thing going on about Tucker.

1:23:10 New York Magazine.

1:23:12 I'm telling you, Tucker is a, I said in the last show,

1:23:16 and I had the clip of them, you know, trying to slam him.

1:23:20 He is a, right now, a lightning rod, and he's an op.

1:23:26 Here is the New York Mag dude talking on France 24, of all places, about this.

1:23:34 Last month, Tucker Carlson, the influential far-right commentator, said he regretted voting for Donald Trump.

1:23:40 He made a comment on his podcast during a conversation with his brother Buckley, a former Trump speechwriter.

1:23:47 You and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now.

1:23:51 Yes.

1:23:51 So I do think it's like a moment.

1:23:55 I love that right there.

1:23:57 You and me and a bunch of other people is the reason this is happening right now.

1:24:02 Do you think that Tucker is the reason this is happening?

1:24:07 I'd give Marjorie Taylor Greene more props than Tucker.

1:24:11 And what's his face?

1:24:13 Your boy.

1:24:17 Talking boy.

1:24:17 Come on.

1:24:18 Fuentes?

1:24:19 Fuentes.

1:24:20 I give him some credit.

1:24:21 Well, he's now come out and said he's a Democrat, which I'm not sure.

1:24:25 Well, there's that.

1:24:26 There's that.

1:24:27 But I think, you know, for Tucker to spike it, you know, to toot his own horn here, like, oh, yeah, well, this is all because of us.

1:24:35 Buckley?

1:24:36 Buckley?

1:24:37 Buckley?

1:24:37 Buckley?

1:24:38 Buckley?

1:24:39 Buckley, can you get a yardage, please?

1:24:42 Like us for the reason this is happening right now.

1:24:45 Yes.

1:24:46 Yes.

1:24:46 So I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences.

1:24:51 You know, we'll be tormented by it for a long time.

1:24:54 Oh, we did such a bad thing.

1:24:56 And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people.

1:25:00 It was not intentional.

1:25:02 Yes, because people vote based on what Tucker Carlson says.

1:25:06 It was not intentional.

1:25:07 I was too.

1:25:08 I'm so sorry.

1:25:09 Carlson has come full circle decades before he became one of his strongest supporters.

1:25:14 Carlson had called Trump, quote, the single most repulsive person on the planet.

1:25:20 Now, that is interesting.

1:25:21 So in the 90s, he hated Trump.

1:25:25 Then he loved Trump.

1:25:27 Now he hates Trump.

1:25:28 I think this guy doesn't know anything.

1:25:31 He just goes with whatever will get some clicks or views or whatever.

1:25:35 I think that that's been asserted.

1:25:38 He made that comment in a 1999 post on the website Slate.

1:25:42 That was just before he became a CNN commentator.

1:25:45 Carlson later worked at MSNBC, both outlets that MAGA movement today considers as liberal fake news.

1:25:52 It wasn't until Carlson joined Fox that he found real notoriety on primetime of America's most watched news network.

1:26:00 Carlson often went on vicious rants against women, immigrants, or people of color.

1:26:06 For many liberals, charging racism has become an almost involuntary habit, a tick.

1:26:10 That is literally the definition of racism.

1:26:14 These very same people are the quickest to cry racism.

1:26:17 Sarah Jong is an angry bigot.

1:26:19 It's not about Brett Kavanaugh at this point.

1:26:21 It's about punishing everyone who looks like Brett Kavanaugh.

1:26:24 But let's get back to the race thing.

1:26:26 Race, skin color, racial division, race and gender, skin color.

1:26:30 Carlson was hyperbolic.

1:26:33 Contrarian.

1:26:34 I'm sorry?

1:26:36 He calls it a vicious rant.

1:26:38 Yeah, if you take it out of context.

1:26:41 You could say more entertainer than commentator.

1:26:45 After all, Fox News once even won a court case by persuasively arguing that no reasonable viewer takes Tucker Carlson seriously.

1:26:54 But today, reasonable legacy media take him very seriously.

1:26:58 Huh?

1:26:59 I didn't know that.

1:27:01 What?

1:27:02 That Fox won a court case and their legal argument that it was nobody takes Tucker seriously?

1:27:09 Yes.

1:27:10 Oh, I remember that.

1:27:11 Absolutely.

1:27:12 That's hilarious.

1:27:13 He's a commentator.

1:27:14 Oh, yeah.

1:27:15 So here's the guy from the – here's the author of this piece in The New Yorker.

1:27:20 For more, we can speak to The New Yorker's Jason Zengerle.

1:27:23 He's also the author of Hated by All the Right People, Tucker Carlson and the Unraveling of the Conservative Mind.

1:27:31 Jason, thank you for speaking to Scoop.

1:27:33 First question, I guess, could you foresee...

1:27:36 Why are you, oh, brothering?

1:27:37 This could be fun.

1:27:38 You have no idea.

1:27:39 No, it's just the guy.

1:27:41 I mean, for one thing, if I'm not mistaken, New York Magazine was a Murdoch property for a long time.

1:27:49 New York, this is New Yorker, New Yorker.

1:27:51 Oh, that's New Yorker?

1:27:52 Yeah, I'm sorry, it's the New Yorker.

1:27:53 Oh, that's a big difference.

1:27:55 Yeah, I'm sorry.

1:27:56 I said it wrong in the beginning.

1:27:57 Yeah, isn't New Yorker part of the New York Times?

1:28:01 No, no, not at all.

1:28:02 New Yorker is a stick-up-its-ass operation that's been around forever.

1:28:06 They're very serious about themselves.

1:28:08 No, it's not a New York Times thing at all, a property at all.

1:28:14 Well, then wait until you hear what he has to say.

1:28:16 Traveling of the conservative mind.

1:28:19 Jason, thank you for speaking to Scoop.

1:28:20 First question, I guess.

1:28:22 Could you foresee this happening, this falling out between Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson?

1:28:28 Yeah, you could, because it's not it's not the first time this has happened.

1:28:32 I mean, Tucker's relationship with Trump has been a bit of a roller coaster over the last three decades, as you pointed out.

1:28:39 The degree to which the falling out has occurred and the severity with which Tucker is now denouncing Trump, I think that's a little surprising.

1:28:48 But but the fact that they've fallen out, I mean, as recently as, you know, four years ago, they had fallen out.

1:28:54 So that itself isn't necessarily anything new.

1:28:56 What do you think about this flurry of interest on both sides of the Atlantic about what Tucker Carlson thinks?

1:29:02 I mean, with the BBC and The Economist, we're interviewing him before he had said he regretted voting for Trump.

1:29:09 Should we be preparing for a 2028 presidential run by Tucker Carlson?

1:29:13 It does seem like he's preparing for that.

1:29:17 He seems to be setting himself up for something.

1:29:20 And I think that, you know, explains some of the forcefulness of his denunciations of Trump.

1:29:24 I mean, look, this has been obviously prompted by the war in Iran, and Tucker, there has been one sort of consistent thing with him over the past two decades, and that is his opposition to American adventurism abroad.

1:29:36 And that was one of the reasons he was supporting Trump, is he thought Trump was an America firster.

1:29:40 So the fact that Trump has done this, you can see why Trump would be angry, or why Tucker would be angry.

1:29:46 And you can see Tucker, you know, viewing this as possibly an opening for him to run in 28 and to inherit that mantle of isolationism.

1:29:56 Wow. New Yorker.

1:29:59 It's bogus.

1:30:04 Are you speechless? Why would, you just said, New Yorker take themselves very seriously.

1:30:08 They do. They take themselves very seriously.

1:30:10 They write long.

1:30:12 The idea is the magazine is designed for the thoughtful individual who likes to read.

1:30:19 The essays in there aren't short and sweet and to the point.

1:30:23 They're more feature length.

1:30:26 Well, they're pretty well written.

1:30:29 The writing in the magazine is quite good, or the editing, one of the two.

1:30:34 And so the stuff is good.

1:30:37 but they've kind of lost their edge with the cartoons, though.

1:30:41 They used to have some of the more...

1:30:43 Oh, didn't they have the dog on the internet,

1:30:47 nobody knows you're a dog?

1:30:49 Yeah, that's a classic.

1:30:50 But they've always had these cartoon editors that were top-notch.

1:30:55 Didn't they fire those guys and start using AI?

1:30:57 They lost one of the cartoon editors that was one of the better,

1:31:00 arrogant character, I guess he got on everybody's nerves,

1:31:04 And they put in some woke people to pick the cartoons.

1:31:08 And if you look at their cartoons, they're mostly, they're lame compared to what they used to be 10 years ago.

1:31:14 Well, so how about this then?

1:31:15 Could they be pushing Tucker Carlson to fracture the MAGA base and giving people some kind of false hope or throwing, stirring the pot?

1:31:26 It could be.

1:31:27 I mean, there's somebody, I mean, it's obvious that Tucker is part of it, along with Fuentes, who has this love-hate relationship with him and Fuentes.

1:31:35 He goes on about how great Fuentes is in one minute, and then he says, I'm sorry I ever interviewed the guy in another interview.

1:31:43 I mean, Tucker's all over the map.

1:31:45 The guy is like a drunk driver.

1:31:46 The new Woker.

1:31:48 Well, then this last clip may actually explain what's going on here.

1:31:56 Megyn Kelly, also a former Fox host, she says she's a close friend of Tucker Carlson.

1:32:01 She said she thinks the reason why the New York Times interviewed him was because they hate Trump more than they hate Tucker.

1:32:08 So they were eager to have that opportunity to get someone to bash Trump.

1:32:13 I mean, what do you think about these media taking the decision to interview Tucker?

1:32:18 Does that they have to stoop to their level or was it newsworthy?

1:32:21 Because in this day and age, we're seeing influencers like Tucker Carlson have perhaps more reach than traditional media.

1:32:28 Well, I think people have wanted to interview Tucker for a while.

1:32:32 I think what's interesting is that Tucker is doing the interviews.

1:32:34 I don't think Megyn Kelly should be questioning anybody's motives, frankly.

1:32:38 But I think that Tucker—

1:32:40 Look, there are a lot of people who have broken with Trump over the years, and there's always been this expectation that, oh, this is the moment that MAGA is going to fracture, and that doesn't happen.

1:32:50 And I think that's the same thing that's going to happen this time.

1:32:52 I don't think this is going to fracture MAGA.

1:32:54 He doesn't think so.

1:32:56 So maybe they're not doing that.

1:32:58 I don't know.

1:32:59 I don't know.

1:33:01 But they're taking him seriously for some reason.

1:33:04 He's got an agent.

1:33:07 Who?

1:33:09 I don't know.

1:33:11 I mean, if a talent agent is getting him these gigs, I have no idea.

1:33:16 This whole thing just seems so phony.

1:33:19 All right.

1:33:20 sorry i brought it up no i'm i'm glad you brought it up i have a clip i'm kind of like to watch it

1:33:28 myself it's like it's like watching a car wreck i have a clip very strange i have a clip of alan

1:33:33 dershowitz um there's another guy who you know before you play let me play a couple of character

1:33:40 assassination clips yeah because i've got alan dershowitz is on the list i know you're gonna

1:33:48 of groan about this, but John

1:33:50 Kiriakou...

1:33:51 Hey, you've had plenty to groan

1:33:54 about my clips today, so you're good.

1:33:56 You have free reign.

1:33:57 I'm going to start

1:34:00 collecting his character assassination

1:34:02 clips because

1:34:03 he's got Dershowitz in there.

1:34:06 That's coming up. I've got two today.

1:34:08 I got one on Newsom.

1:34:10 Explain who Kiriakou is.

1:34:12 Just explain who Kiriakou is.

1:34:14 Okay, Kiriakou is a whistleblower

1:34:16 at the

1:34:18 CIA. He was both an analyst and then became a field

1:34:22 agent. So he has a broad spectrum of

1:34:25 experience with the agency. And he refused

1:34:30 to get involved with the torture program. And he was the only one

1:34:34 who didn't want to take the training or do anything else. And he thought

1:34:38 it was illegal and he blew the whistle. He says in hindsight

1:34:42 what he should have done was have a lawyer with him from the get-go because he was kind of

1:34:46 naive about blowing the whistle and just so they just explain this is the uh abu grabe uh prison

1:34:52 yeah and the other yeah and so he blew the whistle and got thrown in jail for two years

1:34:59 uh under some charged espionage act or some bullshit and he's very pissed off about that but

1:35:07 now he's got a talent agent and he's all over the place and he's on a lot of a lot of podcasts a

1:35:13 couple favorites he likes to do and he talks too much does he have a book what how does he make

1:35:18 money oh he's got i think three books oh okay all right good he's got a bunch of books yeah uh but

1:35:23 he uh likes to talk and he likes the character assassination here's here's here he is on newsome

1:35:30 gavin newsome was a member of the san francisco city council then he was the chairman of the city

1:35:35 council then he was the mayor of san francisco then the lieutenant governor of california then

1:35:41 the governor of california okay so he's this is a very well thought out plan to move higher higher

1:35:47 higher and become president when he was running for governor of california he asked his lifelong

1:35:54 best friend who was also his campaign manager to represent him at a political function the man did

1:36:03 it wasn't because newsom was busy it was because newsom was having an affair with his best friend's

1:36:10 wife and they got caught what kind of person is that if if your best friend and your own wife

1:36:19 can't trust you yeah why am i supposed to trust you are you going to screw me behind your back

1:36:25 as an american taxpayer so i don't i don't like or trust gavin newsom at all yeah what was this

1:36:34 interview from uh i said you know i think is he's got this one guy he loves the interview with this

1:36:40 i can't remember his name he's a podcast very slick uh video podcast very youtuber youtuber

1:36:47 uh it's it's well produced it's got a lot of bouquet in the in the shots uh the sound is

1:36:54 dynamite okay yeah bouquet is where you have the the person in front is in high focus and the

1:37:01 background is blurry oh beautiful yes beautiful that's hard to do what you need is you need

1:37:07 certain kinds of lenses to make that look good yeah yeah you do and uh it's just too

1:37:12 I mean this the podcast is super slick anyway so here he is talking about uh CIA directors that he

1:37:19 hates and he's got both Gina Haskell and Mike Pompeo and here's what he says he made a mistake

1:37:29 twice in his first term appointing he's talking about trump very bad people as cia director very

1:37:36 bad like mike pompeo oh my god the only person less popular than mike pompeo at the cia was

1:37:43 mrs mike pompeo let me tell you i got that from one of his bodyguards and then gina why why you

1:37:50 go get my my dry cleaning you go walk my dog they're like lady we don't work for you we're

1:37:57 protecting your husband we're not going to go get your dry cleaning and walk your dog um the other

1:38:02 one was bloody gina haspel we called her bloody gina for a good reason and like that's the person

1:38:07 that you appoint to the cia directorship wait why do you call her bloody gina because she flew out

1:38:11 to the secret site to sit in on one of the torture sessions just because she could just to sit there

1:38:19 and enjoy it and take it all in.

1:38:22 What kind of sick person does something like that?

1:38:24 He's probably right.

1:38:28 I believe that.

1:38:29 Yeah.

1:38:31 Yeah, we knew that she was called Bloody Gina.

1:38:33 We'd heard about that.

1:38:35 Yeah.

1:38:36 Okay, so you think Dershowitz,

1:38:37 he's going to assassinate Dershowitz?

1:38:40 Dershowitz is coming up, yeah.

1:38:41 He doesn't like Dershowitz.

1:38:43 He doesn't like anybody.

1:38:44 He thinks that Rudy Giuliani should be in jail.

1:38:46 He's dying.

1:38:47 He's dying.

1:38:49 He's not going to make it to jail.

1:38:51 I agree.

1:38:51 So Dershowitz, he's kind of on board with our theory about Epstein, which you might want to reiterate.

1:39:00 Yeah, he was a pimp, literally, running a whorehouse in New York, a big one, for the elites at the high prices.

1:39:13 And the island never really came into play.

1:39:18 And he would procure, and he would procure underage, but it's also, I think he'd probably, I think he also procured gays.

1:39:26 Yeah, there's no talk of that anywhere.

1:39:28 No, it is starting to show up.

1:39:31 Oh, okay.

1:39:32 So Dershowitz takes, and this has always been my thing, what are these victims?

1:39:39 I'd like to, you know, the first lady said, hey, why don't y'all go on the record, victims, tell us your story, victims, on the congressional record, so, you know, you can talk freely there, your NDAs don't count, it's okay, I don't think any hearings have been scheduled, I don't think anyone jumped up and down to get that going, and Dershowitz has his thoughts about the victims.

1:40:04 He was not a pedophile. I have no information about any pedophiles in the Epstein circle. A pedophile, medically, is somebody who is interested in prepubescent people, prepubescent people, 10, 11, 12. That was not his modus operandi. He was interested in 16-year-olds, 17, 18-year-olds. That's a terrible thing.

1:40:27 By the way, it's legal in France. It's legal in many parts of Europe. So it's hard to say you're a pedophile in America, but not in France. Pedophile is not a legal term. It's a medical psychological term. So I don't think there's a real case for people being called pedophiles, although everybody calls them a pedophile.

1:40:46 I also don't believe there was any trafficking going on.

1:40:50 What happened is he made it known to young people in Palm Beach,

1:40:55 if you come and give me a massage, you get $250.

1:40:57 And many of them came back over and over and over again,

1:41:00 collected the $250, and then got $500 if they recruited other people to come

1:41:05 and give him more massages.

1:41:07 And then there was this third category, a very large category,

1:41:10 of women who never met Jeffrey Epstein, never laid eyes on him,

1:41:14 and their corrupt lawyers in Palm Beach would go to them and say, how old are you? Oh, you were

1:41:21 about that age when, yeah, why don't you just say you gave Epstein a massage, we'll collect $50,000

1:41:26 for you. And they did. Right. So I would love to see a thorough investigation of every single

1:41:34 claimed survivor and victim and find out how many there really were. There were plenty.

1:41:40 Yeah, you know, no one's ever going to buy into our theory.

1:41:44 They are so convinced that there's people eating babies on the island.

1:41:49 Eating babies.

1:41:50 Eating babies.

1:41:51 And Trump played into that himself in many ways.

1:41:55 You know, and Q, there's a lot of Q stuff.

1:41:59 And then children being shipped in Wayfair boxes.

1:42:04 We've seen it all.

1:42:05 But in this case, I think Dershowitz is on the right track.

1:42:10 that sounds right to me yeah but it's not going to help or now we got to also another thing that

1:42:17 broke this week's ufo files i got two clips yeah i got a couple things on that too let's see ufo

1:42:24 files all right here we go back here at home to the pentagon releasing ufo files the trump

1:42:30 administration releasing never before seen images of unexplained objects in the sky collected by

1:42:35 the U.S. government dating all the way back to the 1940s. Here's Tom Costello with those images.

1:42:41 Tonight, more mysterious images just revealed. 160 government files detailing 400 alleged UFO

1:42:50 encounters, including this infrared military video from 2013 of what appears to be an eight-pointed

1:42:57 star streaking across the sky. Mysterious white and black aerial blips that defy the laws of

1:43:04 physics. More grainy still images of the unexplained and this image taken from the moon

1:43:10 by the Apollo 17 astronauts of what appears to be lights hovering overhead. The astronauts later

1:43:17 suggested it could have been ice crystals. Today, President Trump posted, with these new documents

1:43:22 and videos, the people can decide for themselves. But there are no reports of aliens or spacecraft

1:43:29 in government custody yeah i saw the website it's lame there's nothing new there it's lame

1:43:38 it's like oh it is lame yeah did you see it you look at the website you know black and white

1:43:43 black and white all like uh like the x files oh the best thing i've seen recently in terms of

1:43:50 grainy black and white stuff is the wiki leaks uh moon outtakes have you seen this

1:43:56 no moon outtakes what is this outtakes the wiki leaks have found a file of the moon landing that

1:44:03 you're always saying is a fake yes outtakes showing it was being filmed as it was being

1:44:09 filmed in the arizona or the i'm sorry the nevada desert okay and they have the guy the same guys

1:44:16 they got neil armstrong and they got the whole the whole thing it's like very it was right up

1:44:21 your alley i'm surprised you didn't see it i may have seen it but there's so much is no no you

1:44:26 would have remembered it believe me it's long okay i have to look for that but it's like yeah

1:44:31 you know everything on the internet is ai who knows i don't know i don't know anymore we

1:44:37 absolutely can't yeah well i think that's a good point here's ufo files too many leading

1:44:42 astrophysicists remain skeptical just because you see something and you don't know what it is

1:44:49 You can't...

1:44:50 Oh, is this Neil deGrasse Tyson?

1:44:52 Yeah, duh.

1:44:53 Oh, man, that guy.

1:44:55 Oh, you know, I am the stargazer.

1:44:58 Be something and you don't know what it is.

1:45:00 You can't then say it must be aliens visiting from outer space.

1:45:05 The documents date back to the 1940s, including an FBI report from an Air Force colonel reporting a flying disc.

1:45:13 More recent reports from fighter pilots.

1:45:16 This diagram from people who claim they witnessed a cigar-shaped object

1:45:20 and a 2023 video of three concentric circles flying in unison.

1:45:25 I have not seen anything to suggest that we've been visited by any intelligent life forms out there.

1:45:31 But the universe is massive, at least two trillion galaxies and trillions more planets.

1:45:37 Given the vastness of the universe, it's really hard to imagine that life,

1:45:41 and even intelligent life, hasn't formed somewhere.

1:45:44 It's hard to imagine that anybody is visiting us or continually visiting us.

1:45:49 And Tom, tonight there is a pattern, though, a lot of these images coming from military pilots that are near or around military facilities or ships.

1:45:56 Yeah, and that raises concern that some of these unexplained aerial phenomenon could include technology that America's adversaries here on Earth possess.

1:46:05 But we don't.

1:46:07 This is a continuous thing that I hear in all of these reports.

1:46:13 It might be UFOs, but it could also be some some great technology, military technology from other people, other countries that we don't possess.

1:46:23 And, you know, I'm thinking we need to have about half a trillion dollars extra for the budget next year.

1:46:31 Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to. Yep. So we'll probably get everybody all kind of every report has that every single one.

1:46:37 It could be UFOs, but it could also be some Chinese technology.

1:46:42 Yeah, sure.

1:46:44 The Chinese have to still copy our jets.

1:46:46 They have to find a jet and then make a phony baloney copy of it.

1:46:50 Wait a minute.

1:46:51 Because they can't dream up anything by themselves.

1:46:53 I mean, not that they can't, but they haven't done it.

1:46:57 It could be Russian technology, but are you saying...

1:46:59 Yeah, the Russians do the same thing.

1:47:01 Are you saying the UFOs are real?

1:47:02 No, I'm not saying that.

1:47:06 i'm saying what you're saying i'm what i'm doing is commenting on your comment about this being a

1:47:13 some something of a scam just to get more money for the budget i'm in a roundabout way agreeing

1:47:18 with you okay good by saying that the russians and the chinese they're not they don't have they're

1:47:24 not they don't have flying saucers so what we always do with our department of war or formerly

1:47:32 known as the artist formerly known as department of defense we bring in our hollywood guys remember

1:47:38 the timeline june 12th is not that far away people coming to imax i've always been fascinated with

1:47:45 things that cannot be explained what is it you won't believe me if i told you so i'm gonna show

1:47:51 you and i've made a lot of movies about things that cannot be explained from sharks to saucers

1:47:56 do you think there could be others when i was just a little kid i'd remember developing a real

1:48:01 curiosity about the sky at night and what's happening up there. People have a right to know

1:48:05 the truth. And also not the possibility, but the guarantee that there is life off this planet.

1:48:11 People keep wandering, encountering the unknown. People's questions about what is not only going

1:48:18 on in our skies, but what is going on in our worlds, in our realities, has reached a critical

1:48:24 mass of people's complete fascination with are we alone or are we not alone they are starved

1:48:33 for the truth and if someone knows we're not alone why haven't we been told full disclosure

1:48:38 to the whole world all at once

1:48:40 full disclosure all at once this is this is the entire script in movie form yeah we got some guys

1:48:52 full disclosure disclosure day coming from universal pictures

1:48:57 yeah the old movie so obvious now we've got we've got two guys out there we've got senator

1:49:06 burleson who i think is from missouri we've got senator birchett from tennessee who basically

1:49:12 birchett or i think it's birchett i think he was on some show that he basically lives in his car

1:49:18 what I didn't hear this he lives in his car yeah he's talking about how he can't get a place in DC

1:49:27 so he's he's got a bed in in his office that he sleeps in and then he goes to the gym to shower

1:49:34 well he was on Joe Rogan and I found and Joe is a big uh UFO gave him a place to shower maybe gave

1:49:43 him a room to stay here we go you have no knowledge of what's supposed to be released

1:49:48 because today is Wednesday.

1:49:50 I'm going to know tomorrow at 3.

1:49:52 Tomorrow at 3 p.m.

1:49:53 Is that when the world knows?

1:49:54 No, I think they're going to ask me,

1:49:56 just give me a little bit of it.

1:49:58 But I got a feeling

1:49:59 they're not going to tell me much.

1:50:00 I got a feeling

1:50:01 they're not going to tell America

1:50:02 not much.

1:50:02 When is it supposed

1:50:04 to be disclosed this week?

1:50:06 Whatever they're going to disclose?

1:50:08 I don't know.

1:50:08 I don't know.

1:50:09 But if they're going to disclose it to us,

1:50:11 then it'll be out

1:50:12 right as soon as they hang up

1:50:13 the phone with some guys.

1:50:14 So, OK, we know

1:50:16 what the disclosure was.

1:50:17 it was a dumb website there wasn't anything exciting or new that i could tell but birchett

1:50:22 oh he's got some stories he's got some good stories no but it's interesting i had that

1:50:27 deep throat moment you know the not the porn version right the the um richard nixon moment

1:50:33 you know where i was walking in the in the tunnel one day and a person came up to me and it's always

1:50:39 a friend it's always a friend that does this and said it was just the strangest conversation and

1:50:43 I'll never forget it because he said, Birchett, he said, you know, you're really pushing on this UFO thing.

1:50:49 And I go, yeah, yeah, I am.

1:50:51 He said, do you really think we need to do this?

1:50:54 And I just kept listening.

1:50:56 When I was a young man, I'd run my mouth and said, oh, shut up.

1:50:59 But I listened to what he said.

1:51:00 He said, I mean, you know, this could upset the religious community and all this other.

1:51:06 I mean, some of this stuff's just left unknown, you know.

1:51:08 And I said, no, it's not.

1:51:11 The government has no right to decide what I can and cannot understand or handle or see.

1:51:17 And to me, and every time, Joe, let me tell you what they're going to do.

1:51:21 I had a two-page bill for disclosure, and Chuck Schumer had one that was 60 pages, I believe.

1:51:28 And he modeled his after the Kennedy assassination committee release, which we're over 60 years into that, and we still don't.

1:51:37 They haven't released everything on President Kennedy getting shot.

1:51:41 And that's what they wanted to model this dadgum thing after.

1:51:44 Mine was two pages long.

1:51:45 Of course, mine didn't get anywhere.

1:51:46 Dadgum.

1:51:47 Dadgum.

1:51:48 I love dadgum.

1:51:49 Dadgum.

1:51:50 So what you heard in there is how this could upset the religious community.

1:51:55 Well, it did.

1:51:57 This was a crazy story.

1:52:00 Two stories broke today, and they are collided in a way nobody expected.

1:52:04 A pastor in Alabama issued a public apology to a sitting member of Congress over the viral UFO clip.

1:52:10 And on the same news cycle, former President Barack Obama went on national television

1:52:15 and told the country flat out that the disclosure everyone is waiting for isn't coming.

1:52:20 Hey, UFOlogers, I'm Christina Gomez, and welcome to this episode of UFO News Updates.

1:52:24 Larry Ragland, a senior pastor of the Solid Rock Church in Birmingham, Alabama,

1:52:30 Claimed in a video that a very well-known congressman from Missouri called into a private meeting with pastors and warned them that the U.S. government is preparing to tell the public that aliens seeded humanity and that there is no God and that Jesus and the Bible were both inventions of these beings.

1:52:47 The clip identified the congressman as Eric Burleson, who sits on the White House Oversight Subcommittee investigating UAP, and the clip went everywhere.

1:52:55 This was fantastic.

1:52:58 So there's all these YouTube pastors, and they're all about end times, and this is it.

1:53:02 Look at what's happening.

1:53:04 It's Iran.

1:53:04 Oh, it's all going down now, people.

1:53:07 Jesus is on his way.

1:53:08 Here's the clip that this guy put out.

1:53:11 A handful of pastors are invited to come to a private meeting with a group of men who are connected with the intelligence world that are believers, but still have very high security clearance.

1:53:20 These are legit, true men of God that are still connected to Washington and even this current administration and all branches of military.

1:53:28 And they literally told us we had a sitting congressman, a very well-known congressman from Missouri.

1:53:33 He was he called into that meeting as well.

1:53:36 That was just for pastors.

1:53:38 And this is what he said on speakerphone.

1:53:40 This sitting, powerful member of Congress said, are the pastors listening to me?

1:53:44 I'm getting chills right now because this happened.

1:53:46 Wait, hold on.

1:53:47 Yeah.

1:53:48 Nobody recorded this.

1:53:50 It was on speaker.

1:53:51 No, no, no.

1:53:53 Of course not.

1:53:53 This was an intelligence briefing.

1:53:55 You can't record that.

1:53:56 No, no, no, no.

1:53:58 You can't speak or you can.

1:53:59 But no one did.

1:54:00 No one did.

1:54:01 These pastors were on the honor system.

1:54:03 Pastors in the room listening to me.

1:54:05 And I said, yes, sir, we are here.

1:54:07 And he said, listen to me.

1:54:09 Go and tell the church they are not ready for what is coming.

1:54:15 The narrative that is coming, what they are going to say is going to be like nothing you can even imagine.

1:54:23 They are preparing to tell us that they are from another dimension, that they are our creator, and that these beings, these aliens, whatever you want to call them, they were the ones that seated us here.

1:54:34 There is no such thing as God.

1:54:35 Jesus was invented by them.

1:54:37 The Bible was invented by them.

1:54:38 And begin to just say, listen, prepare the people for what is coming because they're not ready.

1:54:43 So Joe brings this up, but here's what was interesting.

1:54:49 There were two briefings.

1:54:51 And I heard about one of them because it took place during NRB.

1:54:55 By the way, take Clip of the Day for that last clip.

1:54:58 Oh, it's so soon already.

1:55:01 Okay.

1:55:02 Sorry.

1:55:02 I'll take it.

1:55:03 Clip of the Day.

1:55:06 Thank you.

1:55:07 And it gets followed by my getting to say, oh, brother.

1:55:12 But this is good.

1:55:14 This is really because Burleson did talk to the pastors.

1:55:20 This guy, Larry Ragland, he had to issue an apology and he said, oh, you know, he didn't really say that all this was coming, that the aliens had created the Bible and made up the whole story about God.

1:55:34 That was my editorial. I should have made it clear that that wasn't what the senator said.

1:55:38 But it was Burleson who spoke to those pastors in Missouri.

1:55:43 And Burchett, he spoke to pastors during NRB.

1:55:49 I heard someone mention something.

1:55:52 Oh, there's some off-site at an Airbnb, and there's some senator calling in.

1:55:57 And it did happen.

1:55:59 That was Burchett.

1:56:00 Burleson was the other one.

1:56:02 And here's where Joe brings it up to Burchett, and Burchett's like, eh.

1:56:05 Because already, people are only talking about Burleson.

1:56:08 They're not talking about Burchett.

1:56:09 But he did it, too.

1:56:10 Yeah, the pastor's thing that I sent you, Jamie, is bonkers.

1:56:13 I don't buy that.

1:56:16 So this is a guy, it says his name is Alan Dido.

1:56:20 Yeah.

1:56:21 And it's weird.

1:56:23 See, this is a whole different YouTube pastor, not the original guy.

1:56:26 Capital D, lowercase i, capital D, lowercase i, o.

1:56:30 Didio.

1:56:31 Didio?

1:56:32 After sitting in a private meeting with pastors and those connected to these investigations, the message was clear.

1:56:39 UFO and UAP disclosure is coming.

1:56:41 Pastors must prepare their people now.

1:56:44 Silence is not an option.

1:56:46 Well, what does that mean?

1:56:47 Like, what are they preparing the people for?

1:56:49 Like, why would they bring in pastors I've never heard of?

1:56:53 Is this BS?

1:56:54 I do.

1:56:55 I think it is.

1:56:56 I think if he'd have brought anybody in, he'd have brought Franklin Graham in.

1:56:59 Is this gentleman a pastor himself?

1:57:01 Click on his.

1:57:02 Yeah, well, I mean, he also has a show, which is.

1:57:05 Of course he does.

1:57:06 Of course he does.

1:57:08 Oh, so his show is about disclosure?

1:57:10 Revival Nation Church or something.

1:57:12 No, no, I don't know that.

1:57:13 This is just what these clips are coming around.

1:57:15 Can you click on his bio, please, like what it clicks, what it says?

1:57:18 Equipping end-time believers for the next great awakening.

1:57:23 Oh, boy.

1:57:24 I would warn people that think we're in the end times.

1:57:28 The Bible is pretty clear about that.

1:57:30 It says that they don't even, the angels in heaven don't even know when the end times are, when the end's coming.

1:57:36 I'll spare you the long clip where it turns out that, indeed, both these guys spoke to a group of pastors, one in Missouri, one in Tennessee, and he's really, oh, that's bull crap.

1:57:49 He did it.

1:57:50 It was definitely Burchett.

1:57:52 And I think that these guys are, I don't know about Burleson, he may be a little bit deeper into the, we've got to get everybody on board because this is fun and we can get more money for the military.

1:58:04 Burchett is probably just a true believer who sleeps in his office in his car.

1:58:08 I don't know, but he definitely did that.

1:58:10 And now you bring in these idiots, whoever invited the pastors.

1:58:14 I'm sorry to say it, but the YouTube pastors, the end time pastors, they're out of control.

1:58:19 They just talk all kinds of crap and then they scare people.

1:58:23 And, you know, we did a survey at our church.

1:58:25 Like, what would you like to hear Pastor Jimmy preach about?

1:58:29 Number three on the list, end times, because everybody's watching this.

1:58:32 It's nuts.

1:58:34 But of course, if you follow the no agenda logic of military, there's always this thing lurking in the shadows, which we've been talking about for almost two decades.

1:58:45 Project Blue Beam is going to be used, not as a replacement for real actions.

1:58:53 It's going to be used the way that Hollywood uses CGI, and it's possible there's going to be involvement from Hollywood in this as well.

1:59:04 Where they're going to be using holograms in order to do what Hollywood calls sweetening of these false flags.

1:59:11 And so, in other words, they can actually have, when we have, for instance, fake alien invasion, where we will have the cabals and all of these tic-tacs against a city, against one of our major cities, to actually destroy it and to make it basically to wreak havoc upon one of our cities.

1:59:34 That's always lurking in the shadows.

1:59:37 Project Bluebeam.

1:59:38 It fits.

1:59:40 It fits.

1:59:41 if you want to talk conspiracy second half of show project blue beam fits like a t to this

1:59:47 and i don't know if trump knows about this but he's like oh if you guys want to disclose

1:59:52 something all right we'll put it out whatever whatever we got some tic-tac videos

1:59:56 i don't know yeah well that went nowhere yeah it did it went i took it right to project blue

2:00:07 beam what are you talking about it's perfect i rounded it out i rounded it out i could do the

2:00:12 thing about the guy who wrote the book and got killed but i don't think i didn't want to bore

2:00:16 you with that yeah the guy i remember the guy who wrote the book did you know the guy who wrote the

2:00:22 book no i never met the guy who wrote the book but you know the funny thing is you know they

2:00:27 talk about well the cia didn't contribute to this there the cia has a database that you can look

2:00:32 stuff up in. I talked about this like five years ago. You can look up UFOs in the CIA database

2:00:40 and there's a bunch of screwball stories in there. There's about the guy in the farm that he found

2:00:47 the alien spacecraft and he tried to move and he was frozen because of some mental trick they were

2:00:54 playing on him. It's all in the CIA files. A whole bunch of these crazy stories and these never come

2:01:01 to the fore. It's very

2:01:03 weird. Only the good ones that they're

2:01:05 really working on, like Project Bluebeam.

2:01:07 Maybe.

2:01:08 Would you put it past our government?

2:01:11 Just to finish up on a

2:01:13 lighter note. Okay.

2:01:15 Before we go

2:01:17 into the break.

2:01:18 So there was

2:01:21 a couple of these actresses

2:01:23 now in Hollywood are becoming

2:01:25 OnlyFans women.

2:01:26 Couple? A whole bunch of them.

2:01:29 A whole bunch of them?

2:01:30 Like big names.

2:01:32 And they're making money.

2:01:34 Are they cute?

2:01:36 Well, there's a bunch of big names.

2:01:40 And the latest one is Jamie.

2:01:42 I think her name is Jamie Presley.

2:01:43 She used to be an actress and can't get work.

2:01:47 But I thought I would go to the well, because just as an example,

2:01:51 how much money can these girls make?

2:01:53 I was watching the Whatever podcast, a clip from it.

2:01:58 And they had this woman, Caitlin Segura, talking about her income, her total income she's made.

2:02:04 She's one of the more successful OnlyFans girls.

2:02:08 And I'll mention that Brunetti's wife, who is a copyright lawyer, an intellectual property lawyer, represents one of the women who makes $10 million a year.

2:02:21 Oh, no wonder he quit movies.

2:02:23 What a hassle.

2:02:25 Well, she's not getting the $10 million.

2:02:26 She's not the stripper.

2:02:28 Well, no, but let the wife, you get at least 10%, let the wife do the work.

2:02:32 Good idea.

2:02:33 So this is Caitlin Segura talking about her income.

2:02:38 Kate, you've also, I think on some other podcasts mentioned in terms of your income from fans.

2:02:43 It's quite substantial.

2:02:44 Is there an updated number?

2:02:46 I haven't done the math to update it in a long time.

2:02:49 Do you remember gross is a eight digit.

2:02:52 So in the 70 plus million range gross 70, like 74, 75.

2:02:58 Like a one-year period, what's the most that you've made?

2:03:00 I know it was really high during the COVID years, especially.

2:03:05 It was running at over like $2 million a month.

2:03:07 Just a hair shy of $30 million in 2022.

2:03:09 Wow.

2:03:10 And how much does Uncle Sam get?

2:03:12 Too much.

2:03:15 It's always too much.

2:03:16 Most in one day.

2:03:17 I don't think I've ever calculated that before.

2:03:19 You think it's six figures?

2:03:21 I think so.

2:03:22 I don't know if there's a higher one, but there was a quarter million dollar day.

2:03:25 you also i'm trying to remember it wasn't like bell delphine should did this bath water thing

2:03:30 didn't you do something similar uh yeah my hot tub water when the hot tub meadow was really strong

2:03:35 on twitch yeah yeah and the beer oh yeah you had a beer what's um there's a company that contacted

2:03:40 me from poland i think it's yoni is the company and they make beer uh that's matches the profile

2:03:48 of women's yeast they'll like you send in a sample and they'll replicate the agriculture amount they

2:03:54 made beer out of your yeast they're like we're gonna grow it oh man 75 million dollars yeah

2:04:03 total two million a month we can make beer out of our armpits two million a month so so the question

2:04:13 remains how and she makes a quarter i think the one day best was a two quarter of a million

2:04:19 what what how yeah well by taking your clothes off but who's what what it's just

2:04:30 it's beyond me i i cannot grasp this these numbers i cannot grasp what a guy's giving here

2:04:41 here's 10 grand babe do you and even at 10 grand a pop is how do you get to 250 000 okay have you

2:04:48 forgotten bobby eden the official yeah bobby was a fan of the show whatever happened to her by the

2:04:54 way well she got out of the business because you know at a certain point but she got out of the

2:04:58 early she i think she got out before only fans was around this is back in 2000 well on only fans

2:05:05 just back in 2009 2010 i think we even interviewed her on the show once she was no yes yes we did an

2:05:13 interview I know we did and I played a couple clips from it I guarantee you she was the official

2:05:19 webcam this is when I was in Los Angeles the official webcam girl and she said that men are

2:05:26 so lonely and now we're talking 15 years ago they're so lonely that they would give her the

2:05:32 password to their bank account and say just take whatever you want whenever you want to

2:05:37 don't you remember that i vaguely remember that but that's yeah it's it's beyond my grasp i cannot

2:05:46 i know see getting a quarter of a million dollars considering what we get in a year

2:05:53 getting a quarter of a million dollars in one day to strip i mean john do you know how many

2:06:01 people get pig butchered still to this very day to the tune of billions of dollars yeah but it

2:06:07 That's, yeah, but that's scale.

2:06:10 That's at scale.

2:06:11 She's not at scale?

2:06:14 I think she's at scale.

2:06:15 Well, she's obviously at scale.

2:06:17 She's got a total, a running total of 72 million.

2:06:21 But you know what?

2:06:22 I can go to sleep at night knowing that I'm an honest podcaster,

2:06:25 and I keep my pants on.

2:06:26 You know what?

2:06:26 She can go to sleep at night, too.

2:06:28 Believe me.

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2:08:55 It's so interesting to see people in the troll room who say,

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2:10:25 I'm sitting here

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2:10:27 What is he talking about?

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2:10:30 If I'm doing the show, is that because I'm loaded?

2:10:33 Or is that because, you know, think logically.

2:10:37 Yeah, if you were loaded.

2:10:39 I'd be like Sayonara Dvorak.

2:10:43 I'm going to hang out with Bernetti.

2:10:45 Yeah, you'd be off doing your own thing.

2:10:46 You'd be flying around.

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2:11:10 Give us a boots on the ground look we got.

2:11:11 Help us with some clips like the clip collector Steve Jones.

2:11:15 Big value for him.

2:11:16 I think he's probably helped you out as well with some clips recently.

2:11:19 This really, particularly the Sunday morning stuff.

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2:11:24 That's valuable.

2:11:25 We really appreciate that.

2:11:27 People do all kinds of things, including bringing us artwork, creative artwork, creative prompting, I should say, which is what most of it is.

2:11:38 And we use that for album art, which always is meant to grab someone's attention.

2:11:42 It works quite well on social media.

2:11:44 That's pretty much all I do on X is post the show or repost the show.

2:11:48 And then Darren will post the show and I'll repost Darren's post of the show.

2:11:52 And we were quite pleased with Francisco Scaramanga, who I think himself was pleased that he was chosen and it was not a naked lady.

2:12:01 This was something new.

2:12:03 A complete new model.

2:12:04 We don't know what he's using.

2:12:06 Yeah, it's totally new.

2:12:08 This black and white piece of art had everything Holland in it.

2:12:12 It had the Dutch, the wooden shoe.

2:12:15 It had mice.

2:12:17 I'm not sure what the kind of like Mickey Mouse.

2:12:19 The Hantavirus.

2:12:20 Hantavirus.

2:12:20 That's right.

2:12:21 The hantavirus was running up and down the leg.

2:12:23 You had the hotel with no agenda and the logo's on fire.

2:12:27 There's not a lot of stuff in here.

2:12:29 Yeah, and there's an error, which I didn't mention.

2:12:32 But there is an anomaly.

2:12:35 There's a hallucination.

2:12:36 Uh-huh.

2:12:37 The first mouse at the bottom of the foot, not on the shoes.

2:12:44 Oh.

2:12:44 There is a mysterious six-fingered hand that is there on the shoe.

2:12:51 Oh, yes, out of nowhere.

2:12:53 Out of nowhere.

2:12:54 That's not attached to a mouse.

2:12:56 Well, the mouse could be trying to climb up,

2:13:00 and he happens to have six fingers.

2:13:02 Yeah.

2:13:03 And there's also a mix of four and three fingers on the various mice.

2:13:08 Well, we gave it to him.

2:13:10 We loved it.

2:13:11 Let's take a look and see if there was anything else that we considered.

2:13:14 No, it was a great piece.

2:13:15 It had a flame.

2:13:20 Your sign that's on fire.

2:13:21 Yep, had that.

2:13:22 Yeah, and the wooden shoe.

2:13:24 They had the whole thing.

2:13:25 He had a color version as well.

2:13:28 Yeah, he did.

2:13:29 He had a color version.

2:13:30 But it was cool because the rat was looking right into the camera.

2:13:35 He had an alien licking an ice cream cone.

2:13:37 That had its own merits, but it was color.

2:13:39 And it was the black and white that grabbed us, this model, this black and white model.

2:13:42 Yeah, he had two black and white pieces that were both grabbers.

2:13:45 Yeah, well, that was Popeye.

2:13:46 Yeah, it was too much Popeye.

2:13:49 Yeah, it was too much.

2:13:50 Even though it wasn't copyright.

2:13:51 I mean, it's a public domain character, but we weren't going to use it.

2:13:54 No, we weren't.

2:13:55 But anyway, thank you very much, Francisco Scaramanga.

2:13:58 We appreciate you doing that for us.

2:14:02 And now for the treasure portion, which is where we thank all of our producers who supported us, $50 and above.

2:14:09 And we have special spots in our heart and on the credits for people who support us with $1,000 or more.

2:14:19 become a an instant night and uh in this case we have a special i don't we had only 50 i'm not sure

2:14:25 how many are left um the red knight order of the heart then we have anyone who comes in with 200

2:14:32 dollars between 200 and 300 dollars now with that we will definitely read your note and we give you

2:14:37 the title a credit of associate executive producer that's in there yeah sorry i want to mention

2:14:42 something some record got a request since i'm in recuperation from my uh episode i somebody said

2:14:51 are you picking up the mail at the post office box for that which has the checks that go to the

2:14:58 post office box yeah and he said you should tell people that the mail is being routinely picked up

2:15:04 as usual because you're you know they i don't know so i just i just should mention it and i just did

2:15:11 well was this what was the problem well he felt that because i was staying you know with my

2:15:18 daughter and son-in-law at their house um that i wasn't picking we weren't picking up the mail

2:15:26 which is not that far from the maze it's in the same vicinity so it's not like a big deal

2:15:32 okay sounds good you're picking it up as far as i know yeah no we got to like the thousand dollars

2:15:40 that came in today came from the mail yes and that is exactly where we start with sir kevin

2:15:47 dills from huntersville north carolina and he wants uh right off the bat he tells us that he

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2:16:00 i think that's nick's kid and then uh the remix i hope i got them all here for you and he comes in

2:16:07 with two thousand three hundred and seventy eight dollars and two cents what is this number about

2:16:14 what is the numerology of this fabulous donation he says in the morning this is my annual birthday

2:16:20 donation i'll be turning 40 on may 12th please add me to the birthday list you are on it for such a

2:16:25 milestone birthday today i thought i'd get myself a nice gift oh i see this donation brings me to

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2:16:50 I love you.

2:16:51 She doesn't listen to the show.

2:16:52 Thank you for your courage.

2:16:55 Sir Kevin Dills, Duke of North Carolina,

2:16:57 soon to be Archduke of the Carolinas.

2:17:00 And let me see if I can do this for you.

2:17:07 Boom shakalaka. Boom shakalaka.

2:17:08 Bingo. Boom shakalaka.

2:17:10 I did it the wrong way around, but there you go.

2:17:12 Yes, you're boom shakalakas.

2:17:13 You've got karma.

2:17:15 Archduke.

2:17:18 That's a big deal.

2:17:20 Matthew Payne in Tomah, Wisconsin.

2:17:22 He came in with $1,000,

2:17:24 and that was a check.

2:17:25 Good afternoon,

2:17:27 Podfather and John.

2:17:29 I write...

2:17:32 Let me move this over.

2:17:33 Hold on a second.

2:17:36 I write to you upon finally being able to fulfill a quest long in the making,

2:17:44 like getting my extra class.

2:17:47 Oh, that's right.

2:17:48 He got an extra.

2:17:50 Nice.

2:17:50 Extra class, extra class ham radio.

2:17:53 He gets those extra bands we're not allowed to.

2:17:55 That's the creme de la creme de la creme of the hams.

2:17:59 And writing my final article for publication,

2:18:01 I've looked forward to being able to cross the threshold

2:18:04 and take my turn at the podium with the esteemed, soon-to-be colleagues of Podcast Eminence.

2:18:10 I have been both a producer and a long-time listener circa episode 750.

2:18:15 I would like to thank my friend Kevin Neutzmann, K9NTZ73,

2:18:26 for hitting me in the mouth all those years ago.

2:18:29 At least I think that's his call sign.

2:18:31 the poor guy switches so often i just started memorizing his frn i was scared earlier this

2:18:38 year when john's heart toughened after so many years of cynicism and buzzkillism decided to

2:18:43 social distance itself from the rest of them but i was happy to see pulled through and can

2:18:49 steadfastly agree with as many critiques of our nation's health care system his medical event

2:18:55 produced some of the most riveting boots on the ground commentary and it was truly value for value

2:19:00 You had his finest.

2:19:01 I also really enjoyed The Pods.

2:19:04 Hurt me.

2:19:05 Hurt me.

2:19:07 You know who says that to an extreme?

2:19:08 Brunetti.

2:19:10 No, Calacanis.

2:19:12 Brunetti never says it.

2:19:14 But Calacanis does it to piss me off.

2:19:16 I know he does.

2:19:18 He listens to every single show.

2:19:20 He is a very valuable producer.

2:19:23 But he does that just to make me mad.

2:19:25 Well, he says it and says it and says it and says it.

2:19:29 I know he's trying to capture a podcast

2:19:32 if you're a nerd

2:19:35 a serious nerd

2:19:38 their podcast is quite good

2:19:40 but I don't think it's a general interest podcast

2:19:45 no it's not

2:19:45 it's an AI investment podcast

2:19:49 I'm going to make money from AI

2:19:53 I also enjoy the pods hosted by Mimi

2:19:56 And I might humbly suggest she host every fourth episode.

2:20:00 Yeah.

2:20:04 Okay.

2:20:05 Giving John some much needed rest and a chance to work on his vinegar book.

2:20:09 By the way, the vinegar book has now become a chapter in the Dvorak family cookbook coming out later this year.

2:20:16 Cop out.

2:20:17 Cop out.

2:20:18 What's a cop out?

2:20:19 I can spin it off.

2:20:21 The sequel to his vinegar book, Many Majestic Mothers, and his seldom-discussed plans for direct-to-paperback,

2:20:29 Crédit Cours, A Lifetime of Lozenges, soon available on Audible.

2:20:35 No jingles, no karma. 73 is from the soon-to-be Sir Matt Nick.

2:20:40 Good note, Matthew. Very good note.

2:20:44 He is cute.

2:20:45 Randy and Crystal, $1,000 coming right in from wine country, Napa, California.

2:20:50 Please accept this donation as a token of our gratitude

2:20:53 for keeping us informed of important things.

2:20:55 We love your breakdown of news events,

2:20:57 and John, we are happy you're recovering from your cardiac event.

2:21:01 Sincerely, Randy and Crystal.

2:21:03 Sir Horse Meds in Grosse Pointe Shores, Michigan.

2:21:10 500 bucks.

2:21:11 He's got no note, no nothing, so we'll give him a double up karma.

2:21:13 Yes, we do.

2:21:14 You can come in with a note later.

2:21:15 You've got karma.

2:21:20 Susan A. Taubenkibel in Rockville, Maryland.

2:21:27 Oh, this is interesting.

2:21:28 444.44.

2:21:31 I don't think we've seen that many times.

2:21:33 I don't think we've seen it ever.

2:21:35 And Susan says NJNK, so no karma, but thank you very much, Susan.

2:21:40 I don't remember her name.

2:21:41 I don't know if she didn't want to deduce you or anything, but thank you so much.

2:21:44 We appreciate it.

2:21:46 Douglas Schneider in Austin, Texas, just where you used to be.

2:21:51 Used to be.

2:21:51 333.34.

2:21:53 John and Adam, after three row of ducks donations over the previous three Mother's Day shows,

2:21:59 this donation amount will bring my mother to damehood.

2:22:02 Oh, nice.

2:22:02 She is a diehard listener, and no one is more deserving of a seat at the roundtable.

2:22:09 She would like to be known as Dame Roxanne of the Right Diagonal

2:22:14 And humbly request spicy margaritas and calamari for the proceedings.

2:22:24 Happy Mother's Day to the soon-to-be dame and best mom in the universe.

2:22:28 Love you, Mom.

2:22:29 Your son, Doug.

2:22:31 Oh, that's beautiful.

2:22:33 That was good.

2:22:34 David McInnes from Bernie, Texas.

2:22:36 333.33.

2:22:38 Bernie is really closer to me than Austin, for sure.

2:22:41 And he says, Adam, John, David McInnes from Bernie, Texas, your point cast discussion took me right back to the fun times of the early internet.

2:22:50 Point cast is actually what inspired me to start PR web.

2:22:53 Wow.

2:22:54 Is this the guy who started PR web?

2:22:56 Is that right?

2:22:58 That's what he says.

2:22:59 And build it into a leading press release wire service.

2:23:03 I ran the whole thing on voluntary financial donations, start to finish, all the way through to my exit nine years later.

2:23:10 That's when he became a millionaire.

2:23:12 Yeah, PRWeb did quite well.

2:23:14 PRWeb did well. Congratulations.

2:23:16 My new service picks up where PRWeb left off with a bunch of upgrades.

2:23:20 Listen to this.

2:23:21 Listeners, grab my book for free.

2:23:23 Oh, he's doing the whole thing, man.

2:23:25 Whether you're selling coffee, candy, or pain relief cream made of honey,

2:23:29 News Marketing will help you get found online.

2:23:33 Go to newsmarketingbook.com slash ITM.

2:23:37 That's newsmarketingbook.com slash ITM.

2:23:40 There's no discount because it costs nothing.

2:23:42 By the way, I was hit in the mouth a while back by Sir Gene in Austin.

2:23:46 A de-douching is probably in order since this is my first donation.

2:23:50 You've been de-douched.

2:23:53 No jingles, no karma, just blessings for all the mothers in no agenda land.

2:23:57 What a great story.

2:23:59 We should have him do some of our PR.

2:24:02 Yeah, for free.

2:24:03 Yes, definitely.

2:24:04 For free.

2:24:05 Free.

2:24:07 It's volunteer work.

2:24:09 Yes, it's for free.

2:24:10 It's volunteer work.

2:24:11 It's beautiful.

2:24:12 It's a beautiful thing.

2:24:13 Dennis Cady or Caddy.

2:24:15 Cado.

2:24:16 I can't tell.

2:24:17 Cado.

2:24:17 Cado.

2:24:18 Cado.

2:24:19 Oh, so it is Cado.

2:24:21 That makes it easier.

2:24:23 In Tampa, 3-3-3-3-3.

2:24:26 ITM, Adam and John, we've had record-breaking sales of our Manuka Gold.

2:24:32 Oh, it's our Manuka Gold guy.

2:24:34 Yes, the Manuka Gold people are out of control.

2:24:36 And Manuka Gold Pain Relief Gel.

2:24:37 Yep.

2:24:38 We've been blown away, not just by the, you know, we deliver.

2:24:41 We deliver without prepayment.

2:24:44 We deliver.

2:24:45 We deliver.

2:24:46 Because we like the product.

2:24:47 We like the product, we deliver.

2:24:49 That's right.

2:24:49 I used to say, when I used to do the inside track column in PC Magazine,

2:24:54 I used to plug stuff, you know, just plug stuff without, you know,

2:24:59 any compensation, obviously, except for the column payment.

2:25:02 And I tracked it, that every plug was worth about a quarter of a mil.

2:25:08 wow wow that's only fans money baby and this is like i think we we're getting into that league

2:25:19 yeah um anyway he says i've always gotten surprised but also by the support we've gotten

2:25:26 via email and social media from listeners who truly believe in american run family-owned

2:25:30 businesses yes nice as a way to generally say thank you for all the enthusiasm wholesaling

2:25:36 retail orders and networking, but with like-minded No Agenda listeners, we're giving away free $25

2:25:42 small jars of pure Manuka honey with every order for the next week. Our pure Manuka honey helps

2:25:50 with overall inflammation, immune system support, mental focus, and long-term brain health. And

2:25:56 we're excited to give everyone a chance to try it. Visit ManukaGold.com and every single order

2:26:02 From now until next Sunday, we'll automatically receive a free gift in every box.

2:26:07 Thank you.

2:26:08 It's been truly overwhelming in the best way possible.

2:26:12 Dennis Cato in Tampa.

2:26:14 Oh, thank you, Dennis.

2:26:15 Manuka Gold people.

2:26:16 Yeah, there was some newsletter that a lot of people receive.

2:26:19 I forgot what it was.

2:26:21 And they mentioned the interesting marketing opportunities on the No Agenda show.

2:26:28 Really?

2:26:31 marketing opportunities. Well, they talk specifically

2:26:33 about some dude, you know,

2:26:35 donates and mentions his coffee

2:26:37 in a fun way, and some people

2:26:39 have got honey, and

2:26:40 it wasn't like, go market

2:26:43 on the No Agenda show, which, by the way,

2:26:45 we would reject. If you

2:26:47 hit us with straight copy and like,

2:26:49 here's 200 bucks. Oh, we've done it.

2:26:51 Remember that one time we got a bunch of

2:26:53 ad copy that was just terrible

2:26:55 and you just didn't read it.

2:26:57 Fuck it.

2:26:58 We've even helped

2:27:00 to linda lupatkin uh adjust her copy you know yes we have had we're full service baby on occasion

2:27:07 we do write copy ourselves yeah uh arnis kelman's another name i've not heard before

2:27:14 arnis kelman's talon oh is that ee is that estonia ee yeah it's estonia i believe

2:27:22 333.33 thank you very much didn't ask for anything just says arnis says something there

2:27:28 It says Arnest Kelman's.

2:27:30 That's all it says.

2:27:32 So, well, I'm going to do a double up karma just in case.

2:27:34 Yeah, might as well.

2:27:35 Estonia is one of the most, apparently, is one of the most wired, high-end wired countries in the world.

2:27:48 Yeah, that's what you say.

2:27:49 That's what they say.

2:27:51 Well, yeah, sure.

2:27:52 They want people to go.

2:27:53 Well, they say the same thing about Korea.

2:27:55 Yeah, exactly.

2:27:57 And I've been there a number of times.

2:27:59 Disappointing, I know.

2:28:01 Terrence Lynch in Savannah, Georgia, 333.

2:28:06 Long time listener.

2:28:07 I wish I could donate what you guys are worth.

2:28:10 I've lost my accounting info, but I am confident that this donation puts me over the top.

2:28:15 For knighthood, I would like to be known as Sir Terror of the Responds.

2:28:21 R-E-S-P-A-W-N-S.

2:28:25 Please add Manhattan's and pretzel crisps to the round table.

2:28:31 Please doing what you're doing.

2:28:33 Keep doing what you're doing.

2:28:34 Please keep doing what you're doing.

2:28:36 Pretzel crisps?

2:28:37 That's very British.

2:28:39 Pretzel crisps.

2:28:40 Think?

2:28:41 Yep.

2:28:42 Todd Usnick.

2:28:43 Usnick?

2:28:44 Usnick?

2:28:44 Usnick?

2:28:44 I'll say Usnick.

2:28:45 Houston, Texas.

2:28:46 315.85.

2:28:47 Long-time listener.

2:28:48 First-time contributor.

2:28:49 Please de-douche.

2:28:50 You've been de-douched.

2:28:53 As I begin my quest for knighthood.

2:28:55 Thank you very much.

2:28:56 Daniel Lipinski in Cold Spring, Minnesota Nuts.

2:29:04 21060 becomes the associate executive producer for the show.

2:29:10 And this is a Mother's Day switcheroo for my smoking hot wife, Amy Lynn.

2:29:14 Not a stripper.

2:29:16 Raising, well, Amy Lynn is a good name for a stripper.

2:29:19 Lest we say something about it.

2:29:21 Yes, not a stripper, Amy Lynn.

2:29:23 Also not a porn star, Amy Lynn.

2:29:24 And not a Channel J girl, Amy Lynn.

2:29:27 Got it.

2:29:28 Raising a teenage girl is hard.

2:29:31 Yes.

2:29:31 This house would fall apart.

2:29:33 This is funny.

2:29:35 He's got a typo here.

2:29:36 It's just corrected form.

2:29:38 We've already given her enough.

2:29:39 This house would fall apart if it wasn't for you.

2:29:42 Yes, there you go.

2:29:43 Thank you for all you do for us.

2:29:45 Jobs, Karma, please.

2:29:47 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

2:29:50 Sir Robert comes in from Franklin, North Carolina, $210 and 66 cents as well.

2:30:02 Gents, I'm overdue for a donation, even as a knight, so I might need a minor dedution.

2:30:07 You've been deduced.

2:30:10 If there's such a thing as comfort karma, I would like some for my 94-year-old mother in hospice with dementia.

2:30:18 Well, of course we have that.

2:30:19 In fact, that includes some goat.

2:30:20 Thank you, Sir Robert of the Smoky Mountain Brass.

2:30:24 You've got karma.

2:30:27 And bingo, here's Eli the Coffee Guy in Bensonville, Illinois.

2:30:32 2-0-5-10.

2:30:34 Happy Mother's Day to my mom, Tina.

2:30:38 And to my amazing better half, Jen.

2:30:41 Mother of our one and a half human resources.

2:30:45 She got bun in the oven and number two is on the way in a few months.

2:30:52 Wait a minute.

2:30:52 A few months.

2:30:53 Wait a minute.

2:30:53 A few months.

2:30:56 A few months, yes, okay.

2:30:58 A few months.

2:31:00 This one says, making a human isn't easy.

2:31:07 No.

2:31:07 You have to do it a lot.

2:31:09 So can I get some baby-making karma for Jen?

2:31:13 It looks like I'll be back on the sleep deprivation project soon.

2:31:18 Good thing coffee helps.

2:31:20 If you forget to get mom a gift,

2:31:22 visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM for 20% off your,

2:31:27 ITM20 for 20% off your order and send some coffee today.

2:31:32 Stay caffeinated, says Eli, the coffee guy.

2:31:34 And I should mention that Mimi said,

2:31:37 make sure that people should go to too many eggs.com and for your mom,

2:31:42 Get a copy of the book, Too Many Eggs.

2:31:44 There it is, everybody.

2:31:46 You've got.

2:31:50 Yes.

2:31:52 Karma.

2:31:55 And we've got Stefan Trockels in Soest in Deutschland with $200.

2:32:00 No note, so that means a double up karma for him.

2:32:03 You've got.

2:32:04 Double up.

2:32:05 Karma.

2:32:06 And now we've got Linda Liu in Castle Rock, Colorado for $200.

2:32:12 And she wants jobs karma for your resume.

2:32:14 Your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression, and most don't.

2:32:19 For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com.

2:32:22 Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership, results, and impact.

2:32:30 That's ImageMakersInc with a K.

2:32:31 And Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.

2:32:35 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

2:32:39 Let's vote for jobs.

2:32:41 Yes, and I also want to say Happy Mother's Day to Tina the Keeper,

2:32:47 who was a great mom for her two daughters and a great bonus mom for my daughter.

2:32:52 And Happy Mother's Day in advance to my daughter, who will be a mom mid-July.

2:32:57 Well, I want to say Happy Mother's Day to Mimi.

2:33:01 There you go. I say Happy Mother's Day to Mimi, too.

2:33:03 And now we continue with the rest of our supporters, donors, and value givers.

2:33:09 $50 and above.

2:33:10 Christopher Ebert from Swartenburg, South Carolina, $105.35.

2:33:13 Same amount from Bernice Ann Breuer in Roseville, California.

2:33:18 Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada.

2:33:20 She's always there, $105.10.

2:33:22 ITM, happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there.

2:33:24 Dennis Vollmer, St. George, Utah, $100.

2:33:27 He says he's a Gen Xer and has a PhD in computer science,

2:33:32 and he appreciates the pod.

2:33:34 $100 from Sir Stuart, the angry accountant.

2:33:39 He says, this is my eighth annual Mother's Day donation in honor of my late mother, Jill Walton, who died last year.

2:33:44 A truly Christian woman who gave me so much without asking for anything in return and who, from all the correspondence we have gone through, helped so many people over the years.

2:33:54 Also, much love to my wife, Michelle.

2:33:56 26 years of marriage.

2:33:57 We have never had a real fight during this time.

2:33:59 And she continues to support my two grown-up children, Lucy and Alex, each and every day.

2:34:04 Many thanks.

2:34:05 Looking forward to the show.

2:34:07 John, Jan, Jan DeBroca, Jan DeBroca, Sharpsburg, Georgia, $100.

2:34:12 Hope this helps with John's recovery.

2:34:15 Oh, yeah.

2:34:15 It does wonders for him.

2:34:17 Anonymous, who wants jobs, karma for Glenn.

2:34:20 We'll do that at the end with $100.

2:34:22 Amy Stubfield, 100 from Hickson, Tennessee.

2:34:24 Sir Kevin McLaughlin.

2:34:26 Sorry?

2:34:26 Stubblefield?

2:34:27 Stubble.

2:34:28 Stubble what?

2:34:29 Stubblefield.

2:34:30 You said Stubfield.

2:34:32 Oh, Stubblefield.

2:34:33 Then say Stubblefield, not Stubble.

2:34:35 Then do it right.

2:34:36 Stubblefield.

2:34:37 stubble field sir kevin mclaughlin from concord north carolina he's not just sir kevin mclaughlin

2:34:44 he is the archduke of luna lover of america and boobs always comes in with a boob donation eighty

2:34:49 dollars and eight cents every single episode and he says god bless america and boobs to all the

2:34:55 mothers around the world happy mother's day jurash kojak prague uh wants an f cancer well

2:35:03 we always break for an F cancer.

2:35:04 Sir Dancing Mike,

2:35:10 Maryville, Tennessee.

2:35:11 Birthday donation for Sir Dancing Mike.

2:35:14 His donation for his 58th birthday.

2:35:15 That'll be today.

2:35:17 Michael Raguse in Tustin, California.

2:35:19 Thank you, gents.

2:35:20 That's 5555.

2:35:22 Brittany Miller, Trinidad, Colorado.

2:35:24 Also showing up on the list a lot these days.

2:35:27 5272.

2:35:28 Brian Gately, Bayville, New Jersey.

2:35:30 5272.

2:35:31 Sir Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley.

2:35:33 Missoula, Montana, happy Mother's Day to Dame Mama Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley.

2:35:37 Teddy and Jasper say you are Mama of the Year.

2:35:41 Thank you for everything, Sir Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley.

2:35:43 Bad Idea Supply comes in with $50.50.

2:35:46 Here are the 50s.

2:35:48 Douglas Mook, Cochrane, Pennsylvania.

2:35:50 Rene Knige in Utrecht in the Netherlands.

2:35:52 Roderick Brown, I slipped into Dutch there.

2:35:57 From Mermaid, Prince Edward Island in Canada.

2:36:01 Stephen Shoemake, Xenia, Ohio, Bastian Lassonder, which sounds like a Dutch guy, but he lives in, well, he does, he lives in Hengelo, Offen IJssel, in the Netherlands.

2:36:10 He says, glad you're back. I wish you a speedy recovery.

2:36:13 And finally, Tim Delvecchio, Blandin, Pennsylvania, $50, rounding out all of the $50 and above for episode, what are we, 1867.

2:36:25 Let me thank the executive and associate executive producers one more time.

2:36:29 Our formula is this.

2:36:31 We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

2:36:34 And everyone else, thank you very much for your $50 and above up to $200.

2:36:53 You can easily support us with some value, value back for the value you receive,

2:36:58 by going to noagendadonations.com.

2:37:01 Please consider supporting the show.

2:37:03 Anytime you feel you've gotten value out of the program,

2:37:06 the podcast, the pod,

2:37:07 go to noagendadonations.com.

2:37:09 Any amount, anything is valid.

2:37:11 There's no other tricks or hoops

2:37:13 or anything else you need to do.

2:37:15 Just support the show.

2:37:16 You could even set up a recurring donation,

2:37:18 any amount, any frequency, all up to you.

2:37:20 noagendadonations.com.

2:37:22 It's your birthday, birthday.

2:37:24 On No Agenda.

2:37:27 And we say happy birthday to Sir Dancing Mike, who turns 58 today.

2:37:31 Sir Kevin Dills turns 40 on the 12th.

2:37:34 And happy 52nd birthday to Sir, to Steve Jones.

2:37:39 He is the clip collector.

2:37:40 We appreciate the value you give so much.

2:37:43 Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:37:46 It's your birthday, yeah.

2:37:48 Come gather round, douchebag, producer and slave.

2:37:55 As we all thank your brothers and sisters who gave us some of them nights, some of them days.

2:38:04 For the titles are a-changin'.

2:38:09 That's right, we have a title change, although he is about to become an order of the heart as well.

2:38:15 Sir Kevin Dills, Duke of North Carolina, now becomes Sir Kevin Dills, Archduke of the Carolinas.

2:38:21 How many Archdukes do we have? It's a very small group, I believe.

2:38:25 i can't tell you oh well that's great i'm pretty sure it's probably about 10 max can't be much

2:38:34 more than that thank you very much sir kevin dills we appreciate you uh more than you can even know

2:38:40 and welcome to your new title top of the list my friend archduke of the carolinas

2:38:44 Behold the order of the heart

2:38:48 Pure of purpose, right from the start

2:38:52 In the morning, brave and smart

2:38:55 The order of the heart

2:38:57 Yes, these are the people who become Red Knights, Order of the Heart.

2:39:03 They will receive not only their knight ring,

2:39:05 but also the beautiful lapel pin in very limited quantity.

2:39:11 Sir Kevin Dills, Matthew Payne, Sir Matt Nick,

2:39:14 And Randy and Crystal, a pin for each of you.

2:39:16 And welcome to the Order of the Heart, the Red Knight and Dame status.

2:39:21 Behold the Order of the Heart.

2:39:25 Pure of purpose, right from the start.

2:39:28 In the morning, brave and smart.

2:39:31 The Order of the Heart.

2:39:33 And we have a dame and two knights to bring to the round table.

2:39:38 Before we do that, Jobs Karma for Liz in Australia and the Jobs Karma I promised earlier.

2:39:43 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

2:39:46 Let's vote for jobs.

2:39:48 You've got karma.

2:39:50 All right.

2:39:50 We got three people here, John, so bring out the sword.

2:39:54 You're sounding, by the way, can I, before you, just keep it in the sheath.

2:39:57 You're sounding so good, it's as if nothing happened.

2:40:01 I don't know how you feel.

2:40:03 Do you feel, do you feel good?

2:40:05 Do you feel better?

2:40:06 You feel, I mean, how do you feel?

2:40:07 I feel fine.

2:40:09 Okay.

2:40:10 I feel fine.

2:40:12 Thank you for that blade.

2:40:14 Pop up on the podium, please.

2:40:17 Roxanne, Matthew Payne, and Terrence Lynch,

2:40:20 all three of you have supported the No Agenda show

2:40:22 in the amount of $1,000 or more.

2:40:24 That means you get the coveted status of No Agenda Knight

2:40:27 or No Agenda Dame right here at the round table.

2:40:30 I'm proud to pronounce the as Dame Roxanne of the right diagonal,

2:40:34 Sir Matnick, and Sir Terror of the Respawn.

2:40:38 For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay,

2:40:41 Spicy Margs and Calamari, Manhattan and Pretzel Crisps,

2:40:46 along with that bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts,

2:40:49 ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum,

2:40:51 rubaness, rumen and rosé, and as always at the round table,

2:40:54 we have mutton and mead.

2:40:57 Yeah, mutton and mead.

2:40:59 Hey, what you do is you go to noagendarrings.com.

2:41:03 That is where you will see these handsome dame and knight rings.

2:41:06 And all you have to do is give us your size.

2:41:09 There's a ring-sizing guide on the website, and we'll send that off to you, along with a certificate of authenticity.

2:41:15 And yes, as always, a couple of sticks of wax, so you can really use those signet rings to seal your important correspondence.

2:41:22 noagendarings.com

2:41:24 No Agenda Meetups!

2:41:29 Yep, the No Agenda Meetups are everywhere around the world.

2:41:36 In fact, there was one in light in the Netherlands just Saturday night.

2:41:40 I could not go because we were hanging out with my daughter,

2:41:43 but I know they'll be sending me a meetup report soon.

2:41:46 At least I hope so.

2:41:47 We got a couple of meetup reports.

2:41:48 The first one is for Sir Brian with an I who went to the Buda meetup in Texas.

2:41:53 You've arrived.

2:41:54 The destination is on the left, 404 Main Street, Buda, Texas.

2:41:59 No agenda meetup?

2:42:01 Let me see.

2:42:03 Okay.

2:42:03 It looks like I have you guys for 5 o'clock, and y'all are going to be right out there on the patio.

2:42:08 All right, I don't know where everybody's at, but I'm just going to go talk to women.

2:42:13 One minute later.

2:42:16 Two minutes later.

2:42:21 This is a scam.

2:42:25 Hey, this is Sir Brian with an eye at Astra in Buda, Texas.

2:42:29 I'm glad everybody finally showed up.

2:42:31 This is Seth of the Buda No Agenda Meetup.

2:42:34 It's Chris in the morning.

2:42:35 Hi, I'm Janet Gillis here in Buda, Texas, under the biggest oak tree I've ever seen.

2:42:40 Hey, this is Viscount Scott coming up from my gopher hole.

2:42:44 Keeper Christine here, trying to keep him in line.

2:42:47 Hi, my name is Laura. I work at Astra in Buda.

2:42:50 And honestly, everyone needs to show up on the time that's scheduled,

2:42:55 because I was left with Sir Brian for a whole hour.

2:42:58 There's a lot of trains here.

2:43:01 Woo! Listen to that horn!

2:43:07 Sir Brian with an I, getting very creative.

2:43:10 Thank you very much.

2:43:12 Good that people did eventually show up.

2:43:13 Also, there was a meet-up in Sonoma, Huayno country.

2:43:17 This happened just a few days ago.

2:43:19 In the morning.

2:43:21 This is Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve II.

2:43:24 And I've noticed the show is better

2:43:26 when a Democrat is in the White House

2:43:29 and Ron Paul is still right.

2:43:31 Oh, okay.

2:43:32 Captain Luke, Baron of Sonoma County, in the bathroom, totally not doing cocaine.

2:43:37 This is Hernan, and I'm about to take a shit.

2:43:40 Oh, please.

2:43:41 Sir Zulbat here, and apparently we all had to go to the bathroom at the same time,

2:43:45 so here we are doing the meet-up report from in the bathroom.

2:43:47 It's Linda at the Shire.

2:43:51 Thank you, John and Adam, for keeping on.

2:43:54 John, you've been such a trooper, and Santa Rosa loves no agenda.

2:44:00 This is a dude named Ben.

2:44:02 Hey, Ben, we're right here in Santa Rosa.

2:44:04 It's bougie as hell.

2:44:05 And, you know, we're all having a great time,

2:44:10 and people are beautiful, and we love this place.

2:44:12 We're doing a podcast report.

2:44:14 This is our server.

2:44:16 Hey, hi, I'm Chris, and I'm being told to talk,

2:44:20 so here we are.

2:44:21 4D chess!

2:44:26 Yes, you too can stand in the bathroom

2:44:30 with total strangers and meet children from other lands at a no agenda meetup and i suggest you do

2:44:36 go to no agenda meetups.com find out where a meetup will be near you in fact if you are in

2:44:42 unionville ontario on wednesday the 13th the duke of the south up north in toronto meetup takes