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0:00 She's all jacked up about the action, ho.

0:02 Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act.

0:04 It's Sunday, May 17th, 2026.

0:06 This is your award-winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1869.

0:11 This is no agenda.

0:13 Doing the Bangaranga and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country

0:20 here in FEMA region number six.

0:21 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

0:24 And from Refinery Row, where everybody's happy that Bill Cassidy's finally out,

0:29 I'm John St. Dvorak.

0:30 It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.

0:33 Hey, man, the gloves are coming off.

0:36 Gloves are coming off.

0:38 I don't care how, you know, if they cut your chest open.

0:44 The gloves are off.

0:45 I cannot believe that for 18 years, one thing has been my segment.

0:53 One thing.

0:54 Oh, no.

0:57 You need to come in with a series of four clips about Eurovision.

1:03 Yeah, after you poached and poached and poached, I got sick of it.

1:07 What did I poach?

1:09 You know, everything.

1:10 Well, we do this every single year.

1:17 And we nailed it again.

1:19 We did?

1:20 I think we forgot to nail it.

1:25 We completely forgot to predict.

1:29 And it's a good thing.

1:31 But okay, I will, yes, because we probably would have corrected, predicted incorrectly.

1:37 But I will relent.

1:39 I will allow you, graciously, to roll out whatever you think is important about this year's Eurovision Song Contest.

1:49 Well, it's funny you should ask.

1:51 Now, first of all, this is the 70th anniversary.

1:56 Big deal.

1:57 I mean, 75 would have been better, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:00 70 is a big deal.

2:00 Yeah, 75 is better.

2:02 100 is even better.

2:02 But 70, you know, you know, it's...

2:05 Now, since you're doing the segment, first of all, did we have any transsexuals this year in the contest?

2:11 No, they were all transsexuals.

2:14 Yeah.

2:17 So let's say that this is a PBS report, or I'm sorry, NPR report.

2:21 So I thought it was kind of entertaining because they actually, in an offhanded way, predicted the winner, even though it was the long shot in the way it was presented.

2:33 And the guys, they're very enthusiastic.

2:36 Let's go with Eurovision 70 years as clip number one.

2:40 Okay, Vienna, let the grand final of the Eurovision Song Contest begin!

2:46 70 years old, still as glamorous as ever.

2:49 The final Eurovision Song Contest is in full swing in Vienna.

2:54 You heard three of the early entries, Denmark, Germany and Israel.

2:57 It's said to be the non-sporting event with the biggest global audience.

3:01 So if you're not listening to NewsHour, you are probably watching it.

3:04 Is this NPR?

3:05 Yeah.

3:06 With a British guy?

3:08 Yeah.

3:09 You're doing both at the same time.

3:11 Let's speak now to someone who is going to do that.

3:14 william lee adams bbc journalist founder of wee wee blogs which is the world's most followed

3:18 independent channel on youtube what kind of blog wee wee blog wee wee blogs okay he's in vienna

3:25 hi william hey good evening james good to have you on the program what nearly two hours since

3:31 it all started uh what are the highlights so far oh wait a minute the room is this is the bbc world

3:38 service of course yes thank you i i knew it couldn't be uh npr i just thought it was so

3:45 lame they had to be npr but now that i think about it you're right yeah okay onward whenever

3:50 you bling in bring in the guy who writes the wee wee blog yeah the wee wee blog is i think even

3:55 beneath npr very bouncy and very buoyant a lot of that is down to australia delta good room she is

4:03 Going for gold and wearing gold.

4:05 Yes, yes, yes, I'm stopping.

4:06 Oh, my God, we're never going to get through this.

4:08 Australia, they're in Europe?

4:10 Oh, we go through this every year.

4:13 You might as well add Israel and say what?

4:16 They're not in this, are they?

4:18 Because they're not in Europe.

4:19 Yes, but it is the Eurovision.

4:22 Yeah, Euro standing for Europe.

4:25 No, that just means Eurovision.

4:28 Like you can see Europe, you have a vision of Europe.

4:31 It doesn't mean that you have to be in Europe.

4:33 well oh then how did the united states do in this competition we don't look we have the voice

4:38 we invented all of these these things okay well they dropped the united states we'll drop ourselves

4:43 how about south america how did brazil do every year we go through this what every year they

4:49 they could everyone can participate if they want they just have to join the european broadcasting

4:56 union which costs money oh there it is this thing it's like the olympics you know it's like then

5:04 your country wins and then it's all hosted in your country and there's a lot of money involved

5:10 sponsors all kinds of stuff everywhere 7 000 swarovski crystals she sort of looks like liquid

5:16 champagne walking down the stage now i will say this is the commentary that i expect from

5:22 eurovision 7 000 swarovski crystals she looks like champagne coming down the steps is wonderful

5:28 now her song is called eclipse this is about alignment so we can we can take uh some notes

5:33 here because this is how the podcast award should run that you were going to organize that we were

5:38 going to be the uh the uh the still in play and the moon or ash pants connection that two people

5:46 have that's really special and can lead to sort of romantic entanglement now she herself is a

5:52 cancer survivor she's raised more than 120 million dollars for cancer research and so this song is

5:58 about timing you know and she told me when i sing i'm singing for all the struggles i've had all the

6:02 struggles i've endured and survived and it's just beautiful she rises into the air on an elevator

6:08 borrowed from beyonce the american pop star oh no or just for a piano so she's in the air in gold

6:13 yeah thank you she looks like a gorgeous renaissance painting with the sun being that

6:16 hello it's just something well you've painted the picture on the radio which is uh what we yes that

6:22 was pure theater of the mind thank you wee wee blog we'd like you to have done which is wonderful

6:27 but tell us about the other favorites i mean she's one of them finland greece although i think you

6:32 had a kind of bulgaria have come in at the last minute for you have they oh absolutely the the

6:37 Contest really is a two-horse race between Australia and Finland.

6:42 Oh, how wrong he was.

6:47 Well, he did mention Bulgaria.

6:49 We should have sent Spencer Pratt to the Eurovision.

6:54 He would have swept it.

6:56 He would have.

6:58 All right, now we go to the UGG clip.

7:01 I put UGG because this is a real groaner, this clip.

7:04 But Bulgaria is lurking on the outside.

7:06 the bulgarian singer dara she used to suffer from a compulsion where she couldn't leave her house

7:12 unless her makeup was perfect and i don't say this in a joking way it was clinical

7:16 if her eyebrows weren't painted on perfectly she would experience so much anxiety she would just

7:20 stay home there is a traditional um ceremony in bulgaria kirkurai i believe and they expel

7:26 evil spirits so on stage she has people with bad makeup sitting in chairs there's plastic on their

7:33 face and they perform a dance to drive out the anxiety to drive out the evil but she does this

7:38 within a box that looks like an office you're not aware of the audience even though there are tens

7:43 of thousands of people out there it's creating a music video universe on a stage it is remarkable

7:48 and then just to close up off the circle about the favorites you've got finland my goodness if

7:55 australia is about emotional connection with the singer and the audience finland is about emotional

8:00 disconnection because you have a man and a woman on stage the woman is 56 year old violinist linda

8:05 lampinius and she's deliberately icy she doesn't look at anyone she's avoiding pete she says that

8:11 she is like a flamethrower lika hyten in finnish because you know she'd warm up and people would

8:16 be drawn to her but then she would just get cold as ice and walk away and so their dynamic his fire

8:21 her ice it creates smoke why are you torturing us with this i've never done this can i get some of

8:27 president trump's bleach to drink please well i think it's about time we got to the nitty-gritty

8:34 of this piece of shit okay and this is this is it the ridiculous over analysis of of stupid acts

8:43 oh the woman can't just has anxiety attacks because her makeup isn't correct and she's the

8:49 who won yeah yes because of bad makeup i mean this whole thing is is ludicrous and every year we talk

8:59 about it we do normally predict with some accuracy i might say even though we would have missed it

9:04 this year because who would i know we were too busy looking at the news well we were we were

9:11 excised from the prediction by the cosmic forces because it was impossible for us to predict

9:17 that's my thinking all right and that's in line with the kind of stupidity that we're listening

9:22 to now so let's go on with clip three well he talked about anxiety earlier there was a bit of

9:27 anxiety quite a lot of anxiety i guess around israel's participation five countries boycotting

9:32 it how did their entry perform how did it all go down indeed israel's participation remains a major

9:39 flashpoint for fans for performers and for delegations from rival broadcasters in the past

9:45 two editions of eurovision we heard a lot of booing yeah i think what does that even mean uh

9:51 here's what i think if i'm if i'm not correct if i'm not mistaken the euro not correct if i'm not

9:58 if i'm not corrupted i'm not correct if i'm not correct then i'll be correct because that's rule

10:02 one i'm always correct i believe that these broadcasters are all public broadcasters i

10:08 think that's part of the hook and that's why you've got israel has public broadcasting australia has

10:16 public broadcasting canada are they in this thing wouldn't surprise me they've all got public

10:21 broadcasting and i think you have to be a public broadcaster so this is kind of this is their super

10:27 bowl where they all get to you know get drunk and uh and hang out and party because it's kind of

10:35 their party i think that's what's behind all this but so how does that make him competitive

10:41 and jeering in the audience but this year we didn't have the same amount of booing if any

10:49 certainly in the final i didn't hear any this evening a lot of that comes down to the subject

10:53 matter the song that the israeli act noam betten is singing is michelle michelle is a woman and

10:59 they had a toxic relationship and you can't really read that politically whereas in the past years

11:04 People imbued meaning into the songs. For instance, in 2024, the original title of Israel's entry was October Rain. Many people interpreted that to be a story about the October 7th attacks. And the following year, their singer, she actually survived the October 7th attacks. She herself hid under dead bodies.

11:22 Now, that's not a political statement. That's what she's endured. But people imbued it with meaning, suggesting, oh, Israel chose an act because they wanted to court sympathy on the international stage. But again, we need to remember, art is one of the times of the zeitgeist. You know, what is personal? What is political? These subjects are often very gray.

11:40 Hold on, I have to subscribe to the RSS feed of the WeWe blog now.

11:45 This is so awesome.

11:46 Unbelievable.

11:50 Yes, it's unbelievable.

11:51 You could have done one clip of this guy.

11:53 I'm sorry that I'm belaboring it because I hope this is the last time we ever talk about it.

11:59 No, no, no.

11:59 I mean, I was going to do one clip and then play snippets of the two songs, the one and two.

12:05 That's all I was going to do.

12:07 That's what we do with the snippets.

12:08 Well, you got usurped.

12:10 indeed and he got poached i don't know if it's a good thing for the show i i think it's hurting

12:16 the show indeed and probably is the the voting because that's for a lot of people that that's

12:22 always been one of the highlights not just the singing but the voting and it's changed this year

12:26 to give a better balance between the musical juries and the general public yeah you're right

12:32 there were two big changes one change is that the professional juries in each country uh they've

12:37 been increased so last year there were five jurors this year there are seven jurors and they have to

12:42 include more people under 30 or 25 basically making them younger and more diverse the other

12:48 big change is that rather than voting 20 times per person which was allowed in previous years

12:54 you can only vote 10 times now this is off the back of the revelation following last year's

12:59 eurovision that an israeli government agency was involved in buying ads on youtube and other social

13:05 media platforms calling on voters to vote for israel 20 times now the reason multiple voters

13:12 can vote multiple times by the way i pulled this stunt at a uh at a chili cook-off for the people's

13:21 awards wait you bought you bought votes well we had a couple of of uh chorus girls at the booth

13:30 and talking everyone into turning all their votes into our jar.

13:36 So they would sweet-talk these guys.

13:39 How many votes you got?

13:40 Yeah, we got 10 votes.

13:41 Just give us all 10 votes.

13:44 It would be so nice.

13:45 And so we ended up getting a lot of extra votes using that trick.

13:48 But it's idiotic.

13:50 If you think about it, you should have one vote.

13:52 You get to vote for the one you think is the best.

13:53 You don't get 10 votes.

13:54 You give them all to one guy.

13:55 I can't even discuss this with you.

14:00 Broadcasting Union wants to spread the love

14:02 it wants people to be engaged with all

14:04 cultures, all musical cultures

14:06 I'm letting it play out out of respect for you

14:08 18 years of respect

14:09 that music comes from friends or from foes

14:12 but it seems to have backfired

14:13 in the last edition where you had advertisements

14:16 saying no, don't spread the love, give it all to us

14:18 so this year that's been reduced to 10

14:20 we'll have to wait and see if that has

14:22 any sort of impact on the results

14:23 we're almost at the end, 21st group

14:26 at the moment, 5 ladies from Cyprus

14:28 performing um any sort of surprises any artists that you that stood out for you that aren't among

14:35 the favorites no no i'm all the way now all the way performing next to last in 24 oh my goodness

14:40 the song is called choke me which is very provocative and a lot of people were offended

14:44 there was a petition to have it removed but the singer has explained through her staging she is

14:49 saying choke me to a phantom oh choke me how come choke me didn't win let's just listen

14:58 very quickly to the Israeli

14:59 entry. Michelle,

15:02 we'll just listen to a little bit here. We'll jump

15:04 around. I'm doing this so that Spotify

15:06 will take this episode off of

15:08 their podcast features.

15:10 Here we go.

15:12 Okay, that's

15:18 rejected. And here is the winner.

15:19 Bangaranga.

15:21 Let's see if we can, if I would have voted for this.

15:28 No one's going to see you tonight.

15:31 Welcome to the riot.

15:33 No, I can see a drop.

15:34 Yeah.

15:35 All right.

15:35 Bangaranga.

15:37 Here we go.

15:37 Bangaranga.

15:39 Oh, I see.

15:40 A little bit of Bollywood's in there.

15:43 Yeah.

15:44 I get it.

15:44 Kids like that.

15:45 It's great.

15:45 All right.

15:46 15 minutes of the show.

15:48 Very good.

15:49 Very good.

15:50 Well, yeah.

15:52 Very, very good.

15:53 Okay.

15:54 Well, that's the end of that.

15:55 It is.

15:57 Let me, let me, let's go into some Trump hate.

16:00 Ooh.

16:01 Yeah.

16:02 We haven't done some proper Trump hate recently.

16:05 That's true.

16:06 We have, since I stopped getting the TikTok clips.

16:09 Well, this is a semi-mainstream media Trump hate.

16:14 And it started with, let me see, with the chattering class, as we call it.

16:23 The chattering class.

16:25 Let's listen to how Megyn Kelly introduces her guest.

16:30 All right.

16:30 We're going to bring in our very first guest, very first guest ever here on the MK show.

16:34 That's the podfather of our show, Glenn Greenwald, I speak of.

16:37 He's a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and host of System Update on Substack.

16:43 Help me understand this.

16:44 I mean, it's one thing never to ask me back on the show.

16:48 I mean, it's pretty.

16:49 Well, you were, you were, you were, you were, I thought you were an ungrateful guest.

16:54 What do you mean, ungrateful guest?

16:56 So she has Glenn Greenwald on the show.

17:02 He knows the podfather somehow.

17:05 Well, he's her podfather.

17:07 I used to be her podfather.

17:08 I can be the podfather, but I'm not her podfather.

17:12 And so Megyn Kelly, captured by her audience, Glenn Greenwald, he never got uncaptured.

17:19 I think he's always been kind of the same, self-hating Jew.

17:24 They just have to lay into it.

17:26 I thought this was a career ending.

17:29 I didn't know this took place, but I'm glad you got this clip.

17:33 Oh, no, she had Tucker on.

17:34 She got Glenn Greenwald, Don Ruff on.

17:36 It's fantastic.

17:37 There was an admission on the Iran war, which jumped out at me,

17:41 and it might to you, too.

17:42 Here it is in slot seven.

17:43 By the way, so that show, here it is in slot seven.

17:49 And then you get a three-second pause.

17:51 Please appreciate your no agenda show when you hear these things.

17:54 You know, this is this is not pro.

17:57 Me and it might to you, too. Here it is in Sat 7.

17:59 We're doing it to help Israel and to help Saudi Arabia and to help Qatar and UAE and, you know, Kuwait and other countries.

18:11 Bahrain. It also helps China.

18:14 We're actually I told him today, I said, you know, we're helping you and we're helping you in another way,

18:20 because i don't think they want i don't think china wants iran to have a nuclear weapon either

18:24 i said this don't go crazy you don't need them having a nuclear weapon either what did he say

18:32 well he's not going to respond to much he's a pretty cool guy he's not going to say oh gee

18:37 that's a good point i think he might what's he going to do i mean what a wonderful point you

18:41 think he agreed yeah i think that was the impression i don't think he wants him to

18:45 no he would like to see it end but he's been good about it you know

18:51 so there it is i mean lest there was any doubt it's the first thing in the answer we did it

18:58 to help israel we're doing it to help is renamed other countries he has said the world can't have

19:03 iran having a nuclear weapon but just to say that is so controversial that we're doing it to help

19:08 israel we know we know that we've said that many times and then you get called an anti-semitic but

19:12 that's not anti-semitic it is a fact you heard it from the president of the united states

19:16 himself he thinks it's also helping some of the gulf arab states fine that that's not

19:22 controversial you can say that but prior to the president saying it himself explicitly you weren't

19:26 allowed to say that other piece of it or you were called an anti-semite why she's so uh what she's

19:30 so uptight about this come in anti-semitic you couldn't say this you because you're a podcast

19:36 you can say whatever you want to say why do you care

19:40 i don't know it's weird here here comes greenwald this was a movement that was calling itself

19:48 america first and then you have trump saying oh yeah this war yeah it's kind of helping us we

19:54 don't want to have a nuclear weapon but you know yeah we're helping israel get rid of their big

19:58 enemy i think he editorialized that a little bit these people are insane about this stuff and

20:07 so the way they take the president's statement is oh it's about israel oh yeah they're just

20:14 helping israel get rid of their big enemy of course trump mentioned a whole bunch of other

20:18 countries but glenn greenwald has an answer for that too and also when we talk about these persian

20:23 gulf states what we mean are persian gulf dictatorships arab dictatorships that have

20:30 extreme levels of human rights abuses that we claim to be so offended when they appear in iran

20:35 you think protesters fare any better in dubai or in riyadh or in uh doha or there's no one

20:42 protesting in dubai i think they're all pretty happy with things in dubai riyadh are they

20:49 protest should they be protesting by missing something i don't know maybe they should in any

20:56 in bahrain or kuwait no they or then iran no they don't and this idea you know we're and also the

21:03 straight of our moves trump himself said at the beginning out of frustration look if you're not

21:07 willing to go to a war with iran to open the straight of her moves we don't have to do it we

21:11 don't need the straight of her moves which is true we don't get oil from the straight of her moves

21:14 china does and the gulf states need the straight of hormuz to sell oil but the trump is in bed with

21:22 these persian gulf dictators he loves them too they're extremely rich they have a kind of shared

21:26 aesthetic with this very ostentatious gold-laden kind of you know trump is now a middle eastern

21:33 dictator you see this is this is where it's gone but i do have the taste for gold i have to say

21:40 Totally. I mean, if you go look at that BBC video of me in 2004, I had the same thing. But yet I never felt like a Middle East dictator was my style.

21:50 this gold-laden kind of, you know, wealth expression. He loves them. His family's in

21:57 bed with the Persian Gulf states. And he's very close to them. He listens to them and obviously

22:02 to Israel. And I don't think these are good things for our country. Why are we prosecuting a war

22:08 that's harming Americans for the benefit of Israel or these Persian Gulf dictators?

22:11 And on the question of China, yeah, I mean, opening up the Strait of Hormuz is far more

22:16 in china's interest than ours the problem is is that the only reason the strait of hormuz is closed

22:20 is because israel is because the united states joined israel and attacking iran it was perfectly

22:26 open the strait of hormuz was prior to this war for forever perfectly forever closed now because

22:30 it was a response to the attack on on iran and i think the rest of the world is like you caused

22:35 this problem it's your responsibility to fix it and i think it's a reasonable view for most

22:39 countries to have so i i played these clips first of all i thought it was kind of funny

22:43 but second of all they are now so much like the mainstream media you know they're just they don't

22:51 really look at anything further than the surface i think they're watching ms now and cnn and fox

22:57 probably to to get their uh their their talking points almost i mean this this whole trip to china

23:04 as you i mean it was ridiculous it made no sense everything was wrong it's stupid trump came back

23:11 with nothing let's go to ms now when donald trump was running our favorite jen psaki for president

23:16 you may remember this he had a question he loved to ask a particular thought experiment about a

23:22 tete-a-tete between vice president harris and president xi and it went like this

23:26 kamala harris is so incompetent can you imagine her dealing with president xi of china can you

23:35 imagine her dealing with president xi can you imagine with president xi can you imagine her

23:41 negotiating with President Xi of China. Can you imagine her standing with President Xi of China?

23:46 By the way, nice supercut. I don't think so.

23:48 Can you imagine? He said that so many times. I mean, Trump spent that campaign railing about

23:55 China's influence in the world. And he repeatedly insisted that he alone was the only candidate

24:01 tough enough to go toe to toe with President Xi of China. He was the only person who could show

24:06 she who's boss well where you see that finished his first state visit to china in his second term

24:12 and how did it go did big bad donald trump stand up to the chinese leader i mean this is exactly

24:20 the same as megan and glenn there's no analysis they're just doing hot takes like punch lines

24:27 yeah it's a good point that's just a hot take yeah and so let's get the exact right word for it

24:32 ambassador mcfall let me start with you ambassador mcfall here we go this guy's good

24:36 outlined some of the biggest issues that were at stake during this visit we talked about this late

24:42 last night when it was the trip was still a bit ongoing but as you looked it's now over what did

24:46 trump and really the united states get out of this trip well what do you think john what do you think

24:51 they got out of this did they get anything out of this trip anything at all anything anything

24:55 um i think they got something out of it i think the boeing uh

25:02 possible sales of Boeing jets was a big deal,

25:06 especially if it's going to be 200 of them or more.

25:09 Yeah.

25:09 Well,

25:10 that was about it.

25:11 Seems to me.

25:12 No,

25:12 they got to meet and then Trump got to show off to all these,

25:16 our own business guys that he knows this guy,

25:19 she,

25:20 and they can introduce them to me.

25:21 Hey,

25:22 you can meet the guy here.

25:23 You meet him,

25:23 shake his hand.

25:24 We're all good to go.

25:25 Well,

25:25 I think that's a big deal.

25:27 There's actually more.

25:28 Um,

25:29 but yeah,

25:29 there was that.

25:30 There was some soybeans,

25:31 always some soybeans oh there's always gotta do some soybeans but let's hear what ambassador

25:36 mcfall thinks chen you just summarized it brilliantly that was a fantastic lay down

25:42 and i'm so glad you reminded everybody about what he said he was gonna do with china remember when

25:49 he first ran for president it was all about china china's eating our lunch china's taking our jobs

25:54 they're they're doing all these horrible things to us and he used in that phrase that clip you

26:00 just said you showed communist china right you never heard him use the word communist once

26:05 on this trip and i just think this flip is remarkable and i hope his voters noticed it

26:13 i hope republicans noticed it because for decades notice what the republican party was always saying

26:21 democrats are weak on china we're going to be tough and now he is completely flipped

26:26 what you could not do a bigger flip so again what did he do well he he was just nice he didn't say

26:34 you're you're always bitching and moaning that he's not nice and he has no decorum and he goes

26:40 over there and he becomes nice and now they're complaining about that it's all they do is

26:44 complain it gets better i think an acronym you could use to summarize not just this meeting but

26:51 everything leading up to it is make china great again uh when you look at the impact of the trump

26:58 president make china great again this trump screwed it up only made china stronger presidency

27:04 the real winner has been china and the loser has been america's allies and america itself

27:11 and what's really extraordinary about it ali is president trump was elected beginning in 2016

27:19 in large part because he was really one of the first U.S. leaders who recognized the way that

27:27 China's entry to the WTO was contributing to the hollowing out of the U.S. middle class.

27:33 Wow. The very same people who told him that he was racist and he was going to kill people by

27:39 withdrawing from all of these organizations. All they do is counter-programming all the time.

27:45 One of his promises to American Rust Belt workers was he was going to fix it.

27:50 But instead, what we see he's doing is bullying reporters, beating up on America's closest friends and allies.

27:58 Oh, no.

27:59 And frankly, seeming cowed by China.

28:03 Again.

28:04 No.

28:05 Well, let's go.

28:07 Let's go to the the liberal intellectual elite, an acronym.

28:13 We'll go to the liberal intellectual elites who everybody listens to because their pod is by far one of the most important and smart, smart tech pods.

28:27 It also, I mean, it's a reminder of the stark contrast in the first Trump term.

28:32 I'm sorry, this isn't the pod, but it's one of the hosts of the pod.

28:34 What pod are we talking about?

28:36 We're talking about the pivot pod.

28:38 And how the business community treated the president.

28:41 You see, she gets to be on CNN now that she has a show on CNN.

28:44 You see, that's how it works.

28:45 Yeah, she wants to live forever.

28:46 And what we're seeing now, I mean, so many people were critical of that inauguration seating chart.

28:50 Sort of, yeah.

28:51 But this is kind of evidence of probably a big driving factor for that, so they could go on trips like this.

28:58 Well, as I said, it's a coin-operated presidency, and they figured out very quickly that you put money in and you get...

29:04 Coin-operated presidency.

29:06 She's going to explain it.

29:07 Oh, that's cute.

29:08 She's going to explain it.

29:09 Well, that's going to catch on.

29:11 Yeah, everyone's, all the kids are talking about it.

29:13 And they figured out very quickly that you put money in and you get stuff out.

29:17 Like Andreessen Horowitz spending the most money towards the midterms.

29:21 They understand it's a very small amount of money to spend $115 million because they get so much more, they get billions and billions out of it.

29:29 And so they've sort of figured out it's a cheap way to get what you want.

29:32 And that's what they're doing.

29:34 And they will continue to do that because shareholders, as I've said over and over again, are their biggest goal.

29:40 and that that's fine i suppose shareholders are a goal pretty explicit now she's she's just

29:45 waffling she's you know without galloway she's no good she really isn't then she's just she is the

29:51 was this just she is well she's she's she's gone and she's like a single now she's you know she's

29:57 like one of the people that were in the rolling stones decided to become a single act yeah and so

30:02 she's when charlie watson is uh his jazz album she quit so she quit the group to become a single

30:09 because she's such a demand for it and so this this dog of this i want to live forever thing

30:16 which is overproduced and cost a lot of money is gonna is gonna cost cnn you she's gonna disappear

30:23 from the scene after that thing after the cost to analyze that sucker so we'll see what happens

30:29 all right so now here they are together on the pod he brought 17 ceos with him and three diplomats

30:35 flying billionaires on a plane to china to get shit seems oh by the way she has a really foul

30:41 mouth in this one problematic hi everyone this is pivot from new york magazine and the vox media

30:46 podcast network i'm kara swisher and i'm scott galloway president oh could you can we start the

30:51 show like that i'm adam curry and you go and i'm john c devorek i think we should start yeah okay

30:57 everybody is doing the bangaranga and broadcasting live from the heart of the

31:06 texas hill country here in fema region number six in the morning everybody i'm adam curry

31:10 and i'm john c devorek perfect

31:14 excellent excellent i'm kara swisher and i'm scott galloway president trump and uh chinese

31:22 President Xi have met for a little over two hours right now and attended a state banquet

31:28 to start off their two-day summit in China. In Xi's opening toast at the banquet, Xi said,

31:33 achieving the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation and making America great again can go

31:37 hand in hand. He's snickering at Trump behind his back, though. The White House said both sides

31:42 agreed that the straight of her moves must remain open. Xi warned Trump that mishandling Taiwan

31:49 would cause clashes and put the entire relationship in great jeopardy?

31:52 What just happened? Oh, it ended.

31:56 Oh, well, there you go.

31:57 One more. One more from these jamokes. It's short.

32:01 President Trump, however, does not appear to be overly concerned.

32:03 Let's listen to how he answered a reporter's question

32:05 as he left the White House for his China trip.

32:08 When you're negotiating with Iran, Mr. President,

32:11 to what extent are American financial situations

32:14 motivating you to make a deal?

32:16 Not even a little bit.

32:18 The only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran, they can't have a nuclear weapon.

32:22 I don't think about American's financial situation.

32:26 I don't think about anybody.

32:27 I think about one thing.

32:29 We cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon.

32:32 That's all.

32:32 That's the only thing that matters.

32:34 Oh, wow.

32:36 That was some quote.

32:37 That was like an ad.

32:38 Like, they just, he cut an ad for them.

32:40 It was, that was astonishing, I have to say.

32:42 I mean, it's what I think he thinks.

32:44 And this nuclear weapon thing, we're less safe now than we were during the Obama days when we had most of the enriched uranium in a deal and the state of Hormuz was open.

32:53 So, any thoughts about what he's doing here? Why? Or he's just an old, addled man who just says whatever's on his mind.

33:00 So, this was indeed the ad and all of the M5M jumped on this.

33:08 Oh, he doesn't care.

33:09 In fact, there's always one guy in the troll room who always, who basically should be on the pivot pod.

33:14 Yeah, screw Americans, right?

33:17 You don't care, but you don't care.

33:18 They all did this.

33:20 They all jumped up.

33:21 He doesn't care about your money.

33:23 He only cares about nuclear war.

33:26 President Trump is back at the White House and back to the reality in the United States of gas prices, which are now averaging $4.53 a gallon nationally.

33:37 If you thought that after a couple of days away during his trip to China and when asked exactly what he meant when he answered that question,

33:45 that he was going to rephrase or clarify what he said about Americans' financial situations when it comes to the impact from the Iran war, you would be wrong.

33:56 Hold on a second. That sounds like MSNOW.

34:00 That's CNN.

34:02 Oh, that's CNN?

34:03 That's Caitlin Collins.

34:05 OK, it seems to me, yes, the Democrats who have been fighting against fossil fuels forever and would love a ten dollar a gallon gas price to keep people from using gasoline should be happy about this.

34:19 How come they're bitching about it? Can you answer me that question?

34:22 Because this is all about the midterms. That's all that it is.

34:25 Everything in the world is about the midterms.

34:30 The context and the question itself was pretty clear, but also in the subsequent interview that the president did while he was in Beijing with Brett Baier.

34:38 And in fact, during that interview, the president continued doubling down on this sentiment.

34:43 When you tell somebody you're going to have to pay a little more, not that much more, a little more for gas, Celine, for a very short period of time,

34:53 Because we want to stop the threat of being blown to pieces by a lunatic, by a crazy person, and they are crazy, using nuclear weapons.

35:02 Everybody says that's fine.

35:04 And that question was a fake question, and they didn't put my full answer.

35:08 I totally care.

35:09 Of course, to people struggling to put food on the table or who are grimacing when they go to fill up their tank.

35:16 Vote Democrat!

35:17 There was nothing fake about the question.

35:19 And as far as the president's answer, we've played the entire thing for you since he said it as he was departing the White House earlier this week.

35:26 But just for good measure, you can listen to the entire thing.

35:30 OK, good measure. Here we go.

35:33 Mr. President, to what extent are American financial situations motivating you to make a deal?

35:38 Not even a little bit. The only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran, they can't have a nuclear weapon.

35:45 I don't think about Americans' financial situation.

35:48 I don't think about anybody.

35:49 I think about one thing.

35:51 We cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon.

35:54 That's all.

35:55 That's the only thing that motivates us.

35:57 So it's subtle.

35:58 It's very subtle, chopping off the front end of it.

36:01 But I think it matters.

36:02 So anyway, let's find out exactly what the, I don't know,

36:07 financial people think of the trip and if they felt it was any good.

36:10 This is CNBC.

36:11 I like CNBC because they kind of have to tell the truth.

36:15 difficult for them sometimes especially for the sorkin kid but they have to tell the truth because

36:20 you know people invest on it and otherwise people won't watch their stupid network anymore so here

36:24 we go president xi has already issued a warning to president trump saying that the taiwan question

36:29 is the most important issue in the china u.s relation and if not handled properly these two

36:35 countries could have clashes and even conflicts what do you make of this warning that's a very

36:42 good question and that's probably the biggest concern for people like myself

36:46 live in Taiwan in a summit there are three subjects Trump want to talk about

36:50 number one is Iran and war because they want to reduce inflation with more

36:56 supply of oil number two is trade that's why Trump got all the CEOs Nvidia Apple

37:02 etc to China about trade number three is Taiwan but from Xi's perspective the

37:07 all the importance is reversed. For 6%, Taiwan is number one subject, number one importance.

37:14 So if you listened, and I'm just going to think it's true, I don't know, it could be

37:19 total bullcrap. But if you listen to some of the interviews, it seems like some other deals were

37:24 made that are relevant to our relationship with China. Let me ask you this, the issue,

37:30 and you've been asked about it, and you've spoken about it, and that is China's support of Iran.

37:37 How big a discussion was that today?

37:39 We discussed it.

37:40 I mean, when you say support, they're not fighting a war with us or anything.

37:46 No.

37:47 He said he's not going to give military equipment.

37:49 That's a big statement.

37:50 He said that today.

37:51 That's a big statement.

37:52 He said that strongly.

37:53 But at the same time, he said, you know, they buy a lot of their oil there, and they'd like to keep doing that.

37:58 He'd like to see Hormoz straight opened.

38:01 I said, well, we didn't stop it.

38:03 They did it, and then we stopped them.

38:04 You know, sort of interesting.

38:05 He joked.

38:07 He said, you know, sort of if they stopped it, then you stop them.

38:10 But they'd like to see it opened.

38:12 But they actually closed it.

38:14 He didn't like the fact that they're charging tolls.

38:17 I don't know if they are or not.

38:19 I don't know who would pay them.

38:20 I mean, where do they put the money?

38:21 The country's decimated.

38:23 You know, they're charging tolls.

38:24 Where's the money going?

38:25 Do you think President Xi and China have the ability to influence the Iranians,

38:32 considering they are one of their biggest customers?

38:35 But I love how he's not going to give a truthful answer.

38:40 You can hear he's like, no, I'm not going to tell you that.

38:42 Look, look, he's not coming in with guns.

38:46 He's not coming in with rifles and not coming in shooting.

38:49 You know, somebody said he's been he's been very good.

38:52 They get a lot of their oil, 40 percent of their oil from that location.

38:57 So what has happened and one thing I think that we were going to make a deal on, he's they've agreed they want to buy oil from the United States.

39:05 They're going to go to Texas. We're going to start sending Chinese ships to Texas and to Louisiana and to Alaska.

39:11 All right. Let's go to CNBC with our secretary of energy, Chris Wright.

39:17 You said short term. Should we, should the world get prepared for maybe a longer supply disruption than some initially suspected?

39:29 Because give us your view on where we stand in the Strait of Hormuz right now, if you would, Mr. Secretary.

39:34 And also, what are your estimations about how long things might take to return to normal?

39:40 And I hate that term, but I think you know what I mean.

39:43 Yeah, I mean, a lot of that's up to Iran.

39:45 One way or the other, we will see an end to the Iranian nuclear program, and we will see free flow of traffic through the Straits of Hormuz.

39:52 That could happen relatively rapidly with an agreement with Iran.

39:56 Every nation in the world is standing against what Iran is doing, including China, who's a major buyer of Iranian oil and other oil from the Arabian Gulf.

40:05 Do you think they'll swap that out for U.S. oil? It's kind of what I asked you at the top of the interview.

40:09 Yeah, certainly in the short, certainly in the short run, they're going to do that.

40:12 They'll continue to buy, and I think growing amounts of U.S. oil.

40:16 You know, you see that Chinese ships are getting to the Straits of Hormuz because I think we control it.

40:22 I don't think Iran controls it. I think we're just sitting there like, oh, this is great.

40:26 until you want to buy our insurance and use our our new shipping infrastructure you can do whatever

40:32 you want come to louisiana come to texas best price everything's going to be good and in the

40:39 background we've got uae and their pipeline and eventually this thing will open up and i think

40:44 you're going to see the price of oil go just just you okay yeah sorry they're just dive bomb it's

40:52 it seems so cleared even looking at the futures yeah but don't we want to sell them oil at a

40:58 little higher price to make a little extra money well yeah and we also want to do the insurance we

41:03 want we want to take this away from the british guys we want to run that we've seen saudi arabia

41:09 go full flow to the red sea with their port of yambu do you think that the straight and the

41:15 arabian gulf are going to become permanently less important they're still massively important but

41:21 less important than they have been oh absolutely i mean iran this is a card you can play once

41:27 you can play once we'll we'll see more pipeline capacity through saudi through uae you know

41:33 there's an iraqi pipeline that goes to chehan in turkey uh we could see a pipeline going to

41:38 jordan they'll be hey maybe that's why turkey tried to get involved remember turkey was trying

41:41 to get involved in the in the conversation they yeah they were actually not yeah yeah i think

41:48 Hey, we got a pipeline. Send it our way.

41:50 This is good.

41:51 Through Saudi, through UAE.

41:53 You know, there's an Iraqi pipeline that goes to Chehan in Turkey.

41:56 We could see a pipeline going to Jordan.

41:58 There'll be other routes for energy to get out of the Persian Gulf.

42:03 I prefer to call it the Arabian Gulf.

42:04 Ooh, we're renaming it.

42:06 How about the Gulf of America?

42:09 Yeah, could you know the one of those?

42:11 Out of the Persian Gulf, I prefer to call it the Arabian Gulf.

42:14 But yeah, I think we will see a decreasing importance from the Strait of Hormuz, but not a decreasing importance of those nations' energy production and energy supply.

42:24 They're great allies of the United States. They're key energy suppliers to the world.

42:27 Yeah, I think they have some kind of plan that they're executing on, and President Lubio is aware of it.

42:35 Is there anything you can shed light on that?

42:36 Well, I think the details will be announced later today. I don't want to get ahead of the actual announcement by the trade representative.

42:41 But there's going to be some agricultural purchases which are important and important for our growers.

42:45 And China needs those things.

42:47 We hope in the future to expand it to energy purchase.

42:50 You know, the United States is a net supplier of energy now to the world.

42:53 We're one of the world's, if not the world's largest energy supplier at this point.

42:56 Obviously, when it comes to the airplanes and the engines, those are American factories and American workers that are making that.

43:02 And so anytime you can gain access to a market as large as this one, that's a very positive thing.

43:07 Yeah, I still believe in the ARC model, America, Russia, China.

43:11 Look, you can buy some from Russia.

43:13 We're not going to make a problem out of it.

43:15 We're not going to sanction the ghost ships.

43:17 Just do it legally.

43:18 You're going to have to pay more, but just get on board with everybody else.

43:22 And then that strait will eventually open up.

43:25 It could take another four or five months for all I know.

43:27 I don't think it's going to take forever.

43:29 You know, there may be something to the – you know, our basic thesis on this show was always there's a back channel in Iran.

43:36 Yes.

43:36 And we were working with them in some way, shape, or form.

43:40 So has that disappeared or is it possible that we're still working with him and all this is part of a giant scheme?

43:48 Completely possible.

43:50 And they're getting rid of the Ayatollah guys was part of it because the real powers in Iran didn't want them around.

43:59 They were annoying.

44:00 It was super annoying.

44:01 Well, they're very annoying.

44:02 Remember the turban knockers, the guy that kids are going bicycles and knock their turbans off.

44:10 Yeah, I forgot about that.

44:12 Well, we already know that there's more hijabs on the streets of Amsterdam than the streets of Tehran.

44:18 Yes, right.

44:19 You got that information from a boots on the ground report.

44:22 By the way, I got a boots on the ground from one of our producers.

44:28 He says, everybody, let me just find it here.

44:30 Everybody's, yeah, bugging, or he says, boogieing out of Kuwait due to imminent action.

44:39 Sunday was what we've been told and why we bugged out.

44:42 All contractors plus non-essential personnel evacuated.

44:45 This has to do with all GCC countries.

44:49 Quote, Trump is done effing around.

44:52 Xi is handled.

44:53 Oil being sold from the U.S.

44:55 CIA Mossad insurgency.

44:59 Hmm.

45:00 We have served as the sheriff of the world.

45:03 Well, he's a military guy.

45:04 We've served as the sheriff of the world.

45:06 We're cleaning up European colonies.

45:08 there's a lot in here but there's supposedly something might be happening today and uh

45:14 everybody's getting out so i don't know maybe maybe this will come to a quicker end than we thought

45:20 well it has to in my opinion because we still have the problem with the fourth of july yes yes

45:29 we don't need anything the sort of damocles hanging over our heads on the fourth of july

45:36 or celebration of 250 years as a country.

45:38 You know, speaking of Greek references,

45:43 Chris, the Knight of the Iguana,

45:46 he said that he had a slight correction to the Thysudides.

45:51 Thysudides.

45:52 Thysudides, yes.

45:54 We can't pronounce it.

45:55 He says the Thysudides trap warns the upcoming power,

46:00 not the dominant one.

46:02 Athens was the rising power.

46:04 Sparta was gunning for him.

46:06 If you take the Thucydides trap, as it was originally written.

46:11 Thucydides.

46:12 Thucydides.

46:13 It's impossible to say.

46:14 I know.

46:15 Let's just call it T-trap.

46:17 If you take the T-trap, which is kind of cool with China,

46:20 China is in danger of the trap, not the USA.

46:28 So even this phony baloney thing that the M5M was bantering about,

46:34 they didn't even get it right.

46:36 Oh, they didn't? What? What?

46:39 Although I'm sure in a future dictionary,

46:42 the Thucydides trap will be reversed just like decimated.

46:48 Yeah, decimated.

46:50 It'll just be reversed.

46:54 But meanwhile, Cuba on deck.

46:57 You recall the president said that on our way home from Iran, we'll we'll park off the shore of Cuba and we'll say, hey, we're taking you over.

47:06 And they'll say, OK, we're good. We're ready.

47:07 I got a couple of clips on this.

47:10 Oh, OK. Let's play your clips.

47:12 Well, let's start with the blackouts one and two.

47:15 OK. Cuba blackout.

47:19 first up today cuba this week the island ran out of oil causing massive blackouts across the country

47:28 and a night of protests havana protests what is who is this is this that's what's her name that

47:34 black chick that works on the weekends at npr yeah npr and she just i don't know she just doesn't

47:41 want to pronounce words correctly also got a visit from the cia director he was there for negotiations

47:47 starting with a tough choice for Cuba's leaders. Change or the U.S. will act. NPR international

47:53 correspondent Eder Peralta is following it all and joins us now. Good morning, Eder.

47:58 Hey, good morning, Alyssa.

48:00 So let's start with more details from what looks like a week with a lot going on in Cuba.

48:05 Yeah, I mean, we're reaching summer there, so it's really hot and it so happens that the

48:10 lights went off for more than 24 hours this week. So on Wednesday, very unhappy people took to the

48:16 streets of Havana. They banged on pots and pans demanding that the government turn the lights

48:20 back on. And the government didn't offer much hope. The country's energy minister, Vicente de la

48:26 Olevi, came on TV and said that the 100,000 tons of Russian crude that arrived in April

48:31 has been used up and that the grid is now operating essentially without reserves. And remember

48:37 that Cuba has received precious little oil because the U.S. is running a de facto oil blockade.

48:43 Cuba has been investing in solar power, but the grid is so old, so frail, so lacking in maintenance that it can't handle the voltage fluctuations that happen with solar energy.

48:54 So that means that the long blackouts that are making life miserable on the island are here to stay.

49:00 And no, because we're coming to the rescue.

49:02 Is that what you have in clip two?

49:05 No, clip two is a little different.

49:07 I think clip three, maybe, which is a different clip.

49:10 But yeah.

49:11 And while all this is happening, the director of the CIA lands in the country?

49:15 Yeah, Cuba says that the U.S. asked for a high-level meeting and a delegation headed by CIA Director John Ratcliffe.

49:22 By the way, when the CIA director comes to visit your country, typically not a good thing.

49:28 Why is he there?

49:31 Last time a CIA director visited a country, we got Ukraine.

49:35 Yeah, I'm wondering this myself.

49:38 They say, well, they want a high-level meeting.

49:40 Why don't they send Rubio? Rubio is the obvious choice.

49:43 He's Cuban, or any number of people.

49:47 Rubio, of course, would be the top guy.

49:49 But they send a CIA director because they want to highlight,

49:53 well, this just means that something's up.

49:55 Yeah, I don't like it either. It's very suspicious.

49:57 Landed in Havana.

49:58 Well, I mean, I don't dislike it because something's up,

50:02 and maybe it should be, but okay.

50:04 The Cubans say they made it clear that they don't pose a security threat to the U.S.

50:09 they say they don't host any foreign military or intelligence bases on the island. The U.S.

50:14 readout of the visit came out from a CIA official speaking to NPR on condition of anonymity. And

50:21 that official said that Radcliffe came with a message for Cuba, and that's that the U.S. wants

50:25 to, quote, seriously engage on economic and security issues, but only if Cuba makes fundamental

50:32 changes. I've spoken to Cuban officials, and they have been fairly consistent in saying that they

50:37 are open to economic reforms on the island. They're even open to U.S. investment, they say,

50:41 but that they will not, especially not under pressure from the United States, give up their

50:46 president or change their one-party system or, for that matter, their socialist ideology. I think

50:50 the question is whether those things are the changes that the U.S. considers fundamental.

50:56 So what? I mean, does this point to a stalemate? Neither side is going to budge?

51:00 I think you could read it that way. And that's consequential because President Trump has

51:04 threatened military action but i had a conversation with lillian guerra cuban historian has he has

51:10 he threatened military action i'm i'm wondering like i don't remember that i don't i mean not

51:16 nothing to the of the likes of you know like we're gonna remove a civilization i don't recall that

51:23 neither side is gonna budge i think you could read it that way um and that's consequential

51:28 because president trump has threatened military action but i had a conversation with lillian

51:32 Guerra, a Cuban historian at the University of Florida, and she sees both sides softening. The

51:38 Vatican, for example, has been instrumental in bridging gaps between the U.S. and Cuba.

51:42 And it's notable that Secretary of State Marco Rubio met recently with Pope Leo. The U.S.

51:47 has also offered Cuba $100 million in aid, and Cuba has said they would take it. And importantly,

51:53 Cuba also released a high-profile prisoner on Thursday. Guerra's read is that the situation

51:59 is so dire in cuba that both sides are afraid of an explosion do you mind if i just insert one clip

52:06 here go ahead because but i want to mention something which is the fact that it didn't make

52:12 a lot of sense that rubio is going to meet with the pope he thought well maybe he's a catholic and

52:16 but now it makes a little sense that it's part of the scheme yes i have and and by the way that

52:22 kind of reconfirms the fact that a communist system really should get rid of religions if it

52:29 wants to succeed i mean the thesis in russia was let's get rid of the russian orthodox church

52:36 that's you know put it into the background because we don't need outside influence which

52:43 the pope is uh telling people how to think or how to behave uh because it's it's it hurts the

52:50 communist system it's i just found it kind of ironic that they they screwed up that that part

52:56 of it well so i just put a couple things together in my in my tiny brain so we've got rubio talking

53:03 to the pope the pope is the head of the catholic church what is the uh original acronym for cia

53:10 now you talking your tiny brain or the brain in your head no that's the tiny brain in my head

53:16 it's very tiny the time the time that other tiny brain is somewhere else it has a mind of its own

53:21 sorry i was it was rubio talks to the pope the pope is the head of the catholic church

53:26 what is the original acronym that we always laugh about for the cia of which the director was just

53:32 catholics in action catholics in action now listen to this just go to jen because you know jen

53:37 patrick and i were talking yesterday about the possibility of course of this offer of 100 million

53:42 dollars that we're hearing now appear that the island appears willing to accept do we have a

53:48 sense from this meeting, the CIA, what you are hearing as well, what kind of reforms they're

53:53 likely to see, right? They want to see and how quickly. Well, Issa, in addition to those security

53:59 reforms that Patrick laid out that came up in that meeting with the CIA director yesterday,

54:03 they are also pushing what they describe as economic reforms on the island, essentially

54:08 opening it up to private investment. This was something that was a key focus of a different

54:14 visit by U.S. officials last month to the island where they met with senior Cuban officials. And

54:19 they were saying they needed to make these economic reforms in addition to those security

54:24 reforms in the near term or else they would continue to face a catastrophic situation.

54:30 Now, it is clear here that these economic restrictions are going to remain in place

54:37 unless these alleged reforms are taken by the Cuban government.

54:42 However, the State Department says that they are willing to offer this $100 million in humanitarian aid

54:48 only if it is given through the Catholic Church or independent organizations on the ground.

54:54 They say that this is the key string that is attached to this offer,

54:59 that it has to be distributed through these independent organizations.

55:03 Now, a senior State Department official said that they have been in touch,

55:07 They have reached out to the Cuban government through what they describe as a senior channel between the State Department and senior leadership in Havana about this aid.

55:16 Cuban officials have indicated that they would be willing to accept it if there weren't conditions on it.

55:21 So now take what you just said.

55:23 So the State Department says Rubio goes to the Pope and says, hey, Pope, hey, Leo, you're from Chicago.

55:30 You know how to deal with me.

55:32 We can talk.

55:32 We can talk business.

55:33 So we're going to give 100 million for Cuba.

55:37 We want you guys to be in charge of doling it out because there's nothing more embarrassing towards a communist system than the church coming in and telling them what to do.

55:46 That's actually kind of genius.

55:49 I love that.

55:52 My donations clip, which is the third clip I've got on Cuba, has a similar kind of, they bring the UN into it and how they do it.

55:59 We don't want to deal with them.

56:00 It's kind of interesting.

56:01 It's similar to your clip, but to play it anyway.

56:04 The United Nations is trying to raise more money for aid to Cuba,

56:08 where a major energy crisis threatens health care and food production on the island.

56:13 But NPR's Michelle Kellerman reports the United States says it won't contribute to the UN's efforts.

56:20 The UN's Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs says it has raised only 30% of the $94 million it needs for Cuba.

56:28 Fuel shortages have created what one top official called a multifaceted emergency.

56:34 The State Department tells NPR that the U.S. will not give any money to the U.N. in Cuba, stating, quote, the U.N. in Cuba has long colluded with the regime.

56:43 The statement goes on to explain that Secretary of State Marco Rubio has offered $100 million in goods to be delivered by the Catholic Church or other, quote, independent and respected organizations.

56:55 This is like a huge F.U.

56:58 Like, OK, you need some diesel.

57:01 Clearly, you need some diesel.

57:04 We got a Jesus boat with some diesel on it coming your way.

57:09 But, you know, we got to have the Catholic guys run everything now.

57:13 I mean, it's such a slap.

57:15 It's quite funny.

57:17 It is funny.

57:19 And also, you know that they're going to do the right thing.

57:23 Because you know, the whole point is, stop the communists.

57:26 You know, if Rubio goes and says, well, you can't be commies anymore.

57:30 We're like, no, we don't want to do that.

57:32 You know, that'll be a huge problem.

57:34 But now you're just bringing the Catholic Church.

57:36 I'm like, well, you know, we owe you one.

57:40 I think it's funny.

57:43 It's a very strange situation.

57:46 And out of the blue, I mean, this whole Cuban thing was not part of the campaign that Trump ran.

57:52 It wasn't even discussed.

57:54 It's like a whole new idea.

57:56 Somehow, I think, you know, to be honest about it, it has to be Rubio behind the whole thing.

58:03 He's the Cuban in the administration.

58:05 And the Catholic.

58:06 And the Catholic.

58:07 Yeah.

58:07 And a friend of the Pope.

58:09 Buddy, buddy.

58:10 Trying to iron things out between him and Trump and this phony baloney feud that they really don't have.

58:15 Yeah, precisely.

58:17 But the media loves that because, oh, Trump hates Catholics.

58:21 Well, what's Rubio doing there?

58:22 It doesn't make any sense.

58:23 It's good.

58:25 I think, well, isn't J.D. Vance a born-again Catholic?

58:28 Didn't he join the Catholic Church late in life or something?

58:31 No, no. Is he a Catholic or is he born again Christian?

58:34 No, I think he's a Catholic. Look it up. I think he's a Catholic.

58:38 Well, we don't look things up on this show.

58:40 No, that's right. You can ask your buddy.

58:41 We consult the Book of Knowledge. Here we go.

58:43 Is J.D. Vance a Catholic or just a regular Christian?

58:47 Let's find out.

58:51 All right, Book of Knowledge.

58:53 It's searching through all the pages.

58:56 According to the Book of Knowledge, J.D. Vance is a Catholic

59:00 of a very specific type having converted to the catholic church in 2019 he grew up loosely

59:08 evangelical christian identified as an atheist as a young man then reconnected with christianity

59:14 during law school before his formal conversion thus it has been written well i guess he is a

59:23 catholic then yes it's exactly right yeah yeah anyway i so that'll be fun that'll be fun to see

59:31 but the big thing is investment in the island american investment how to think yeah it's about

59:36 time i mean think about the canadians have been investing there for a long time it's getting on

59:41 our nerves you know they're putting money in they got property this is a great place for for it

59:47 should be a vacation paradise it's a new island right near florida yeah 90 miles away jamaica's

59:54 jamaica's getting old you know the virgin islands epstein island you know everyone's been to all

1:00:03 the islands let's go to cuba has always been big it's always been uh and it's got cigars cigars

1:00:10 cigars and not only that but the cigars are quite remarkable don't they have um don't they have a

1:00:16 drink too when they have some some kind of drink that they're good at a cuban

1:00:20 okay thanks very helpful no very helpful mojito i have no idea

1:00:28 yes the mojito all right okay where do you want to go now well i got a couple of shorties here

1:00:40 that are that are interesting uh but let's say i i've been wanting to get this out of the way

1:00:45 cbs did a special on trolls on trolls yeah the psychology of a troll wait a minute did they

1:00:53 interview anybody from our troll room no they didn't interview any real trolls but the whole

1:00:59 thing if you the the subtext is that trump is a terrible person because he's a troll oh i see

1:01:07 so they're trying to deconstruct trump by doing a story about trolls that's i'm that's my guess

1:01:13 but here's the here is a two part two clips they're very short but entertaining listen up

1:01:19 everybody arthur brooks can eat a plate of hot trash huh that was the first comment the cbs news

1:01:27 contributor got on one of his online columns and his earliest experience of internet trolls

1:01:32 one of the things that we have seen since time immemorial is people with a pitchfork pitchfork

1:01:38 setting fire to people they don't like that's right perhaps the main difference now is that

1:01:43 they'd have to come back to their families and communities and now they can hide behind the

1:01:47 anonymity of an anonymous exactly right twitter handle it's the perfect ecosystem for people who

1:01:52 that we call trolls today and if you spend any time on social media or any time in the comment

1:01:56 section after a news article you're going to find that it gets really toxic really quickly so as a

1:02:02 behavioral scientist and also as a as a writer in public i wanted to know who are these people and

1:02:08 i started to do a little bit of research into it and it turns out they're not like just you and me

1:02:13 it turns out they're different they're from the seven percent of the population that have

1:02:17 sociopathic characteristics they're disproportionately drawn from what we call dark triads

1:02:22 people with narcissism machiavellianism meaning i'm willing to hurt you and even psychopathy they

1:02:29 have psychopathic traits feeling mean they feel no empathy or remorse and they enjoy hurting you

1:02:34 to to and this is why we can't say that these are ordinary people well maybe these trolls are

1:02:39 actually awesome people now that the way he described it these are our people these are

1:02:44 narcissists yeah these are our people psychopaths this is just this is an off-handed attack on trump

1:02:51 it's still our people seven percent are you know that's true it's our people we have a lot of we

1:02:56 do have a disproportionate number of people that would qualify yes and they should be proud of

1:03:03 themselves he should be seven percent is actually fewer people than i expected yeah but you're

1:03:08 disproportionately drawing from that population they're the ones that are actually trying to start

1:03:13 internet conflict they're the ones who are actually insulting other people they're the

1:03:17 ones who are actually trying to get you all fired up because they enjoy seeing the emotional turmoil

1:03:21 yes yes that is exactly them i love you people this is what you're doing yeah the jig is up

1:03:28 we're on to you now we figured you out cbs is on to you trollery trollery about you they're

1:03:34 getting their thrills from it now there are others who say they don't we actually have studies that

1:03:39 ask internet trolls why they're trolling some of them say for social justice but guess what else

1:03:43 we find but people who are activists political activists they tend to be psychopathic as well

1:03:49 this is one of the things we need to keep in mind on either side of the on either side of the aisle

1:03:54 if you're a real activist and you want to fire people up and get people angry there's a reason

1:03:59 you like people to be angry so there are some parallels there there are wow so that kind of

1:04:03 reminds me of that twitter post you made which was there was some video about a guy explaining how

1:04:10 psychos get to the top of political oh yeah the psychopaths taking over the world yeah that was a

1:04:17 good that was a very interesting analysis uh but spencer pratt falls into this category yeah you

1:04:23 know you know what's interesting is now other people are making videos for him no most people

1:04:29 have made he hasn't made very he's made very few videos the only ones he's made are involve him and

1:04:35 he says this is you know by he basically doing an interview no they're all made by third parties

1:04:42 there's about six or seven groups that do a lot of them and there's a bunch of independents doing

1:04:47 a bunch of them they're all done by outside people not not just one or two all of them

1:04:53 that's why the style is so different from one to the other so you know tina is very enamored by

1:05:00 this and she's kind of given up on on news she's given up on our show she doesn't even listen to

1:05:06 our show anymore well she's like she's she's watching dogs uh on the tiktok on uh instagram

1:05:13 and people cooking with cheese.

1:05:17 That's our competition.

1:05:19 But.

1:05:19 People cooking with too much cheese and cats that play the piano.

1:05:24 Yeah, that's basically our group.

1:05:26 Yes, and we're losing.

1:05:28 We're losing here.

1:05:29 Well, we're losing now and again, you know, I'd say.

1:05:31 Now, but the Spencer Pratt stuff, she sees that.

1:05:35 She says, you know, this could spark a revolution

1:05:37 and many more people could do this.

1:05:40 What do you think?

1:05:42 Well, I think that's what everybody, I mean, what she says there is a commonplace, as far as I'm concerned, which is that Pratt is doing what the future of politics is what he's doing.

1:05:55 The issue, it seems to me, is that there's going to be some legal action taken because of likenesses.

1:06:03 Oh, but if you're famous, you can't do that.

1:06:06 I'm thinking there's going to be some changes made in the law.

1:06:12 Because there has to be at some point because there's a lot of the kind of defamation that is part of his videos or the ones that are being done on his behalf, let's say, because that's what the situation is.

1:06:27 Even though many of them identify what group is doing them at the end, there's usually an identification, not always, but a lot of times.

1:06:34 Okay, this is interesting that you bring this up, because I think we're seeing the law change in many different ways, and you identified one early on about where parents are going to be penalized for things their idiot kids do.

1:06:52 Yeah.

1:06:53 Which is, I mean, if you—

1:06:56 Sneaking up on us.

1:06:57 But it's really quite insane.

1:07:00 I mean, if you look at the American laws, most of them were written based upon biblical laws.

1:07:06 And this is the exact opposite.

1:07:08 You know, Scripture says, you know, no parent shall be responsible for what his child does or the other way around.

1:07:15 And so this is such a diversion from U.S. law and the origin of it from a long, long time ago.

1:07:23 And so I was very surprised to hear Janine Pirro, Judge Janine, who is now the attorney general for District of Columbia, when she said this.

1:07:35 And as we grapple with this problem, there is one area that hasn't been discussed.

1:07:42 Parental involvement has been a noted gap in any discussion.

1:07:48 And I am here to say, as the United States Attorney in the District of Columbia, that ends today.

1:07:54 Starting today, my office will aggressively prosecute parents under D.C.'s curfew law.

1:08:02 And the specific statute that we will use is a violation of D.C. Code 22-811, and it involves contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

1:08:17 This statute makes it unlawful for an adult to enable, facilitate, or permit a minor to engage in delinquent acts.

1:08:27 The penalty is up to six months imprisonment.

1:08:30 So if the evidence shows the parent knew or should have known or permitted or failed to prevent participation, we're going to charge them.

1:08:42 And if you drop your kid off and you fail to supervise them or you let them skip school to join the chaos, you are going to face fines, court-ordered classes, and possible jail time.

1:08:56 I'm against this.

1:08:59 Why?

1:09:00 You don't think there should be any parent responsibility whatsoever for delinquent kids who have gone nuts and they're unsupervised because their parents are lacking certain skills?

1:09:12 yes yes however i think the kids need to be penalized otherwise they get penalized too

1:09:19 no they don't well if their parents are taken away they sure do because they're going to be

1:09:23 locked up in a foster care home i think you put these kids into you tase them first

1:09:28 so but there's things changing in our laws and i just i'm not there's a lot of things i don't

1:09:36 agree with i'm just i'm not entirely on board with that one then she's at least she's not clear about

1:09:41 the kids it's like you know everything is now the parents fault

1:09:45 so rob cardi our constitutional lawyer suits and boots he was so jacked up this week

1:09:54 he's like this is huge and for his business it is huge but i think it also is going in a direction

1:10:04 that we would like to see. This is the liability, a change in liability from a court ruling by the

1:10:13 Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ruled unanimously to allow a man who lost part of his leg in a

1:10:19 trucking crash to sue a major logistics company that hired that truck. The man's attorneys argued

1:10:25 that the truck driver had been cited for careless driving in another crash months earlier and that

1:10:31 the broker, C.H. Robinson, should share liability.

1:10:35 Last month, CBS News Chief Investigative Correspondent Jim Axelrod

1:10:39 spoke to families who lost loved ones in similar crashes

1:10:42 who could also be impacted by this ruling.

1:10:45 This is what Ohio State troopers confronted

1:10:51 responding to a crash outside of Cincinnati the day before Christmas of 2022.

1:10:57 Can you hear me?

1:10:59 A tractor trailer heading north on I-75 crossed the median and slammed into two vehicles.

1:11:06 They were texting me throughout their drive, saying how close they were, where they were, and then I heard nothing.

1:11:13 Amy Ross had planned to host Christmas for her family that year.

1:11:18 In those two cars, her mother, Kimberly, a sister, Lauren, another sister, Karen, and brother-in-law, Jeremy Bainey.

1:11:28 And that's when we got in touch with the police and the police said they're all gone and there was nowhere to go.

1:11:36 There was no hospitals to go visit them at.

1:11:38 The driver of the truck, a Cuban national with a green card, had left Miami two days earlier in a truck that police said had a stolen federal registration number.

1:11:50 A toxicology report showed elevated levels of cocaine and methamphetamines in his system.

1:11:56 After the crash, the driver fled back to Cuba.

1:12:00 How does a guy like this end up hauling goods for Walmart?

1:12:05 I don't think that this driver or many others like him end up on the road,

1:12:11 but for the broker, turning a blind eye.

1:12:15 So now the brokers are going to be liable for these crap drivers that they hire.

1:12:22 And here's, this guy, he does a YouTube, the mother trucker, and it's just short, but a little color to it.

1:12:28 To put it plain and simple, a lot of owner-operators are saying this is a big win because the Supreme Court just had a unanimous ruling saying that brokers are pretty much accountable for negligency when hiring any motor carrier, right, that is unsafe.

1:12:47 You know, and they are including illegal alien truck drivers in this.

1:12:52 So, is this a big win? Because when you look at this and you're trying to book loads, the shippers, they want to pay top dollars at times, not all bad times. And then they have the broker that's supposed to make sure that happens. And what do they do? They pick really crappy carriers to haul their loads and they don't care.

1:13:12 They just want that extra money going to their pocket and get some random carrier to do the job.

1:13:18 And then that person gets into an accident.

1:13:21 And when they do, there's no accountability on the broker.

1:13:24 But now that changes.

1:13:26 Yeah, not only is it a change for subpar truckers, haulers, loaders, whatever you want to call them.

1:13:34 But how about autonomous trucks?

1:13:37 And with this type of liability changed by the Supreme Court, could we see perhaps vaccine manufacturers coming up soon?

1:13:46 Well, something's got to give on the vaccines.

1:13:51 Or pharma providers in general.

1:13:55 Which is one of the reasons I'm glad to see Bill Cassidy came in third in a three-man race and got kicked out of his Senate seat in Louisiana.

1:14:04 This is the creep who, who condemned, you know, wasn't going to vote for Bobby Kennedy. He's a big promoter of, of the, of the vaccine for hepatitis B on, for babies. He is a, one of the top 10 recipients of pharma money.

1:14:24 He's also the guy when he was hassling Kennedy, demanded that Kennedy see him twice a month to confirm that he wasn't going to change the schedule for 86 vaccines for infants.

1:14:40 I mean, the guy was just a bad actor.

1:14:43 And he finally, you know, Trump wanted him out and he got out because he's also voted for Trump's impeachment on the second go round of the impeachment when Trump wasn't even president anymore.

1:14:54 That's great.

1:14:54 The guy's a total creep.

1:14:56 I mean, why was this guy even in office?

1:14:58 Oh, this brings me to Hantavirus.

1:15:04 So this is the, what is this guy?

1:15:09 Admiral, what is that guy's name?

1:15:13 Admiral, Admiral.

1:15:14 He's the Admiral.

1:15:14 It's just him saying everything's okay.

1:15:18 Zero Americans are sick with Hantavirus.

1:15:20 Brian Christine is his name.

1:15:22 It's linked to that cruise ship docked in Spain.

1:15:24 U.S. health officials confirming for the first time no Americans are believed to be infected with the Andy strain,

1:15:30 including the passenger who ended up replacing the ship doctor who initially tested positive.

1:15:34 Further tests actually show he may have never been sick with the disease.

1:15:38 And total health authorities are watching 41 Americans for the virus,

1:15:41 including 16 who were never on that ship but were potentially exposed to one of the cruise ship passengers who got on a plane.

1:15:48 That's the report. Here's the admiral himself.

1:15:50 Let me be crystal clear. The risk of hantavirus to the general public remains very, very low.

1:15:56 The Andes variant of this virus does not spread easily, and it requires prolonged close contact with someone who is already symptomatic.

1:16:05 Even so, we have taken this situation very seriously from the very start.

1:16:11 We've taken it seriously across HHS and particularly through the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

1:16:18 And I'm proud to see many of my U.S. Public Health Service officers have been actively engaged in the response.

1:16:24 The CDC rapidly activated its Emergency Operations Center.

1:16:29 It deployed medical teams to assess passengers and coordinated closely with international partners.

1:16:34 They have notified state health departments.

1:16:37 They have initiated monitoring of potentially exposed individuals.

1:16:41 And they have issued clinical guidance through the Health Alert Network.

1:16:45 And they've also brought together national partners through coordination calls.

1:16:49 They've developed tools and resources to support public health.

1:16:52 Well, the point being for that clip is the guy sounds like he's a typical boring guy and he's just, you know, he's going through the motions, but he has it kind of covered and he's not, he's not hair on fire.

1:17:04 Like we're all going to die, but then this was going to blow over in two days and this has been like two weeks already, isn't it?

1:17:11 Oh yeah.

1:17:12 It's not going to blow over.

1:17:13 but then i then then so this is the new guy admiral christine so now we go to cnn and then

1:17:19 listen to this tonight we have a cnn exclusive k file and covering new details about one of the

1:17:24 trump administration's top public health officials who led the public federal response this week on

1:17:29 hantavirus dr brian christine stood before reporters promising response grounded in science

1:17:35 and grounded in transparency but before joining the administration christine was an alabama

1:17:41 urologist with little experience in federal public health he specialized in penile implants

1:17:46 and once hosted a youtube show called the erection connection on that you coughed over

1:17:51 it i want to make sure you heard about it i'm sorry you're right yeah i want to make sure you

1:17:54 heard about his youtube show penile implants and once hosted a youtube show called the erection

1:18:00 connection which i need an end of show mix someday we'll find it erection connections anyway so so

1:18:10 they're burning you do it they're burning this guy the erection connection on his procedures

1:18:15 k-file also found a history of far-right commentary and conspiracy ting smart including

1:18:21 comparing the biden administration to nazi germany questioning the 2020 election and

1:18:26 suggesting the covid vaccine did little to stop the pandemic so okay that's funny i think the

1:18:33 erection connection is a great find but here's cnn burning the admiral over at hhs the previous

1:18:42 admiral over at hhs of which they never said anything bad was literally a dude in a dress

1:18:49 yeah rachel rachel levine literally a guy in a dress oh never never a bad word about her him it

1:18:58 come on you nailed it yeah yeah well meanwhile it doesn't make any difference because ebola's back

1:19:08 yeah finally yeah yeah when it rains it pours people two clips one from c the comparative the

1:19:15 cbs clip and a bbc clip you can play either one uh how about cbs first there are growing concerns

1:19:22 over yet another deadly virus outbreak doctors are monitoring an ebola epidemic in africa that

1:19:28 may be to blame for dozens of deaths so far. CBS's Lilia Luciano has the alarming developments

1:19:34 and speaks to a U.S. ER doctor who survived the virus. In Congo's Ituri province, health officials

1:19:40 are battling a new Ebola outbreak. The Africa CDC says there are 246 suspected cases and at least

1:19:48 65 people dead, the highest death toll from the disease in years. The World Health Organization

1:19:54 is concerned. But we know very well that the country has experience, but the region where

1:19:59 it is happening is highly volatile with the humanitarian situation going on and the population

1:20:05 moving around from South Sudan to Uganda and other parts. Government officials confirmed the outbreak

1:20:12 has now spread to Uganda. Medical professionals seem very concerned about the possibility or the

1:20:18 ability to contain this. Why is that compared to other times? It's already a big outbreak at the

1:20:23 point that we're hearing about it. There have already been a number of deaths and this is a

1:20:27 strain of Ebola for which we have no treatment, no vaccines. The virus spreads through direct

1:20:33 contact with blood and other bodily fluids. Dr. Craig Spencer contracted Ebola while working in

1:20:39 Guinea in 2014. Healthcare workers are the group that I'm really concerned about because they have

1:20:45 very close contact with people when they're most contagious, particularly around the time of

1:20:50 folks death and the u.s has been the single largest external player in ebola response in the

1:20:57 past now experts are worried that the dismantling of usaid and the u.s organization could have an

1:21:06 impact in the global efforts to contain the virus let the world health organization do it yeah bill

1:21:13 gates why does usaid have to do everything they can't they can't because they don't exist anymore

1:21:18 Well, good. Go to BBC. BBC. The Democratic Republic of Congo's health minister has said

1:21:25 the strain of Ebola, which has broken out in recent days, has a very high death rate.

1:21:30 Samuel Roger Kamba said there was no vaccine or specific treatment available. The outbreak has

1:21:37 caused 80 deaths out of nearly 330 suspected cases. Shinganyoka reports. The numbers of the

1:21:46 dead and sick have been rising rapidly since this outbreak was declared mainly in two gold mining

1:21:51 border towns where it's feared that high population movement could spread the disease further the

1:21:57 african union's public health agency has called for an increase in cross-border monitoring after

1:22:03 uganda confirmed its first fatality the 59 year old man had recently traveled from the drc

1:22:10 Officials have called for international assistance

1:22:12 to contain what is now the DRC's 17th outbreak.

1:22:16 World News from the BBC.

1:22:18 I think I have one clip from CBS that has something additional in here.

1:22:23 This is the Democratic Republic of Congo's 17th outbreak of the deadly viral disease

1:22:28 and it's unfolding against the backdrop of a deepening security crisis

1:22:32 where clashes between rival militia groups have killed dozens of civilians in recent weeks.

1:22:38 Abdi Rahman Mahmoud is with the World Health Organization.

1:22:41 Well, we know very well that the country has experience,

1:22:44 but the region where it is happening is highly volatile

1:22:48 with the humanitarian situation going on and the population moving around.

1:22:52 So our response is to stand with the regional government,

1:22:56 with the regional government and the country neighbor in terms of solidarity

1:23:00 to show again that they can control this outbreak.

1:23:05 And Ebola was first discovered back in 1976 in what is now the DRC and is thought to have spread from bats.

1:23:12 Now, this morning, health experts are warning the...

1:23:15 Bats! Those Africans are eating bats!

1:23:19 Yeah, it's a problem.

1:23:22 Yeah.

1:23:24 How many times have we been through an Ebola outbreak on this show in 18 years?

1:23:28 I think it's four.

1:23:30 At least. And then we had two Zikas.

1:23:34 four ebolas two zikas one covid and now we had three SARS we had SARS GARS or whatever that

1:23:42 other one was we had the swine flu MERS MERS and SARS and then corona 19 covid 19 and uh and now

1:23:51 hantavirus which is kind of cool we got a new one well we had this is the second we had a second

1:23:55 I think we've had three incidents of hanta we had the current one we had the one with what's his

1:24:00 name's wife and then we had one earlier maybe 10 years ago there was a haunted discussion i don't

1:24:06 remember from 10 i don't think we've ever had a discussion on the show about hanta i looked it up

1:24:10 at bingit.io i couldn't find any i did promise i would look into um the resignation of mccary

1:24:21 over the flavored vapes

1:24:23 do you remember this

1:24:26 you've muted yourself

1:24:30 I don't know how that happens

1:24:31 that has literally never happened to me

1:24:33 I can tell you how it happens

1:24:35 I think Tina would love for me to mute myself

1:24:37 sometimes but not on the show

1:24:39 beside the point

1:24:41 the

1:24:42 what happens is I get these pop-ups

1:24:46 pop-ups

1:24:47 yeah pop-ups

1:24:49 what world are you living in

1:24:51 what happened to a blocker blockers don't work anymore i mean i have for example i got my avg

1:24:58 antivirus free there's your problem your avg antivirus free expires in six days this is a pop

1:25:04 up you got renew it man so i click on it but i instead of clicking on i click on the mute button

1:25:12 because it is overlaying it and it just misses i don't know all i it's an accident okay well

1:25:19 it's okay so i promised i would look into this resignation from the um the fda uh director

1:25:29 administrator i think it is uh over flavored vapes so let's get the full story and i think i've

1:25:36 figured out what this was really about children's national in dc is sharing its concerns after the

1:25:42 FDA's decision to authorize fruit-flavored vapes and that move played a role in the agency leader's

1:25:48 resignation yesterday. Sunrise's Max Marcilla joins us live. Morning, Max. What does this

1:25:54 authorization really mean and why is it driving this pushback? Well, Hillary, this authorization

1:26:00 means that one company called Glass can now market two of its flavored e-cigarette products.

1:26:06 They're blueberry and mango flavored. Listen to this. Listen to this device. They're called Gold

1:26:11 and Sapphire. And while advocates of this move are hopeful that it could help adults transition

1:26:16 away from traditional cigarettes, there are many concerns being raised, especially for young

1:26:23 people. So look, big picture, teen vaping is at its lowest point in several years, and these new

1:26:29 devices will have a digital age verification system. But we spoke with Dr. Susan Wally,

1:26:35 the chief of hospital medicine at Children's National, and she's concerned that teenagers

1:26:40 could still find a workaround to the new preventative technology. Look, she says these

1:26:44 fruit-flavored devices are extremely addictive and oftentimes are a young person's first experience

1:26:49 with tobacco. We certainly are concerned as public health advocates, pediatricians, and teachers

1:26:57 that, you know, our young people will get the idea, oh, well, maybe this means that it's okay

1:27:02 if the FDA has authorized it, and it couldn't be further from the truth.

1:27:07 So, one, and I've followed this because I'm a vaper, and I totally disagree with all these Chinese crap vapes.

1:27:16 Who knows what's in them?

1:27:18 That'll probably kill you.

1:27:19 And then they came up with it'll cost you a million dollars per flavor that you want to have the FDA approve.

1:27:27 And this glass company, which is some outfit in Los Angeles, they came up with, oh, well, you have to link it with Bluetooth to your phone.

1:27:37 and then with a government id i'm like come on this is all nuts but this is there is something

1:27:45 going on here two sides one is the president who promised this to young maga i can't remember it

1:27:52 but i think he did like oh we're gonna we're gonna let you vape kids vote for me um and he also was

1:27:59 having a meeting at uh one of his golf courses with the big boys from tobacco who are now switching

1:28:05 from combustible products to nicotine, just pure nicotine products.

1:28:10 And they've spent a lot of money on his election campaign, and they wanted, you know, they

1:28:15 want this.

1:28:15 They want the vapes to be legal.

1:28:17 And Durbin talked about this in the Capitol.

1:28:23 Tobacco companies have donated generously to Donald Trump's election, his inauguration,

1:28:28 his great Gatsby ballroom, with the expectation of favoring the treatment.

1:28:34 president trump's administration has delivered for tobacco last week the food and drug administration

1:28:39 and i just have to say it has nothing to do with tobacco nicotine is nicotine it's not tobacco

1:28:46 and you know there's all kinds of studies that say can be good you know any having too much of

1:28:53 anything is probably never good but it's not necessarily going to kill you chinese vapes

1:28:58 will probably kill you bad vapes can yeah it can create formaldehyde you can get pieces of

1:29:03 yeah the problem yeah and the problem with cigarettes themselves is the tar yeah so but

1:29:08 but durbin makes it sound like it's all about tobacco which is not but it is true that the

1:29:14 tobacco industry has been moving to nicotine and they certainly did support this president

1:29:18 something it had never done before after pressure from president trump the fda authorized the first

1:29:24 ever flavored e-cigarettes. Why is that important? That's what lures the children into this deadly

1:29:31 habit. Notice e-cigarettes. We're not calling it vapes. We're calling it e-cigarettes. Deadly

1:29:37 habit. Scientists, doctors, and parents, even the FDA's own studies, all acknowledge sweet and

1:29:43 fruity flavored e-cigarettes are responsible for addicting our children. Health experts I've spoken

1:29:49 to believe the true number of high school

1:29:51 kids vaping

1:29:53 is at least 40%.

1:29:55 40% of our kids

1:29:57 vape. Yeah, the same 40% who ate

1:29:59 nicely colored

1:30:01 Froot Loops. I mean,

1:30:02 none of it's good for our kids.

1:30:04 Yeah, this number's bullcrap. Of course.

1:30:07 Teachers, principals, and students

1:30:09 acknowledge.

1:30:10 These are not kids vaping to quit

1:30:13 cigarette smoking. These are kids

1:30:15 who first became addicted to nicotine

1:30:17 because of flavored vaping.

1:30:19 Why would an administration supposedly committed to making America healthy again

1:30:25 unleash this new wave of addiction on our children?

1:30:28 Formaldehyde, chromium, heavy metals like nickel and lead,

1:30:33 all are present in e-cigarettes.

1:30:35 A recent study found that vaping is likely to cause cancer.

1:30:39 We should not trust big tobacco when they promise they won't market to kids.

1:30:44 We know better.

1:30:45 All right. So, obviously, this was kind of funny, and Kimmel made some jokes about it.

1:30:51 And then you have the reported beef between the president and his head of the FDA.

1:30:55 According to the Wall Street Journal, Trump spent this weekend angrily bullying FDA Commissioner Marty McCary, seen here moments after he graduated from the School of Stock Footage Doctors.

1:31:06 He berated him for delaying approval of flavored electronic cigarettes.

1:31:11 You may remember Trump promised young MAGA that he would save vaping, which is as noble a cause as there is.

1:31:18 And so, like a kid giving up his lunch money, the FDA finally authorized cotton candy flavored e-cigarettes.

1:31:25 This is what's important to him.

1:31:26 Vape pens.

1:31:27 He's definitely been in Florida too long.

1:31:30 All right.

1:31:31 So I got no argument.

1:31:33 I like vaping.

1:31:34 I think it's great.

1:31:35 I think it should be easier for people to make safe vapes.

1:31:38 That's not the point.

1:31:38 This guy was pushed out for very different reasons, and it surfaced on an interview on CNBC.

1:31:45 You know, to put it kind of bluntly, you've been getting some not great press lately.

1:31:49 And I'm curious, just today, paranoia, turmoil, and backlash inside the FDA under

1:31:56 Marty McCary, President Trump's Marty McCary problem. These are very recent stories,

1:32:00 Bloomberg and the Wall Street Journal. A lot of it does stem from frustration

1:32:05 with patient populations and physicians, which what they say is inexplicable decisions by the

1:32:12 FDA to not approve drugs. Replimune, for example, being a key one. How do you respond to this

1:32:19 overall criticism that, I mean, continues to this very moment? Yeah. Yeah. I think that article in

1:32:25 the Wall Street Journal is the ninth article they've posted in that opinion section begging

1:32:31 for RepliMune's approval. I don't work for RepliMune. I work for the American people,

1:32:36 and I stand by the scientists at the FDA. Three independent teams arrived at the same conclusions.

1:32:41 On my watch, we have not done corrupt sweetheart deals. What we have done is followed the science.

1:32:45 So every accept or reject decision at the FDA on my watch has been the accept or reject

1:32:53 recommendation of the primary review teams at the agency. And, you know, I've spent my whole

1:32:58 career taking care of cancer patients to suggest that we want cancer patients to die is a little

1:33:03 offensive so it's about replimune replimune has all the big boys behind it i mean you've got

1:33:12 black rock you've got everyone has invested in this one company to make replimune and it was

1:33:18 supposed to be replimune isn't it uh repli well replimune yes replimune are you familiar with it

1:33:25 Because it's not on the market.

1:33:26 I hope you're not using it.

1:33:27 I'm sure that they'd love to pass it along.

1:33:32 Well, no.

1:33:33 He was saying...

1:33:34 There's a whole group called the Replimune group.

1:33:36 Yes.

1:33:36 But he was saying, no, this thing is no good.

1:33:40 And these guys got not one, not two, not three, but nine articles in the Wall Street Journal opinion editors pushing for this drug.

1:33:49 Well, final question, because you referenced, you used the word corrupt when you described sort of corporations.

1:33:55 I'm just curious as to what you're talking about.

1:33:57 I'm talking about a small set of companies have a trial that doesn't go their way.

1:34:02 They call you, they call CNBC, they call Wall Street Journal.

1:34:05 They're running ads on your network nonstop.

1:34:06 And they say, hey, this is wrong.

1:34:08 The drug actually works when the trial shows it didn't work.

1:34:10 And they dial up tremendous pressure in the media to drum up people, spin them up on results that don't match the data that we see.

1:34:19 And what you see as a result are nine articles by a couple editors in the opinion desk at the Wall Street Journal pushing for one drug.

1:34:29 What do you call that?

1:34:29 I know.

1:34:30 Well, they would call it being compassionate to the 8,000 people with melanoma whose frontline treatment failed.

1:34:35 I'm a cancer surgeon.

1:34:36 I mean, if there's anything that'll help cancer patients, 100%, we're going to get it to them.

1:34:41 So, final clip about what was wrong.

1:34:43 All right, well, if you do that.

1:34:45 Wait, he's a cancer surgeon?

1:34:48 I thought he was a dick surgeon.

1:34:49 No, this is a different guy.

1:34:51 This is the FDA guy.

1:34:52 Okay, I get him mixed up.

1:34:53 Sorry.

1:34:53 You're still 15 minutes behind.

1:34:54 I am, yeah.

1:34:56 All right, well, if you do that, I mean, I just want to go through it because to the

1:35:00 extent that I've been exposed to one story, it has been this one.

1:35:02 I've talked to the CEO as well and any number of other people.

1:35:05 I mean, they would say they ran a breakthrough designation on the basis of putting, what, a third of patients into multi-year remissions.

1:35:10 The original review team recommended approval.

1:35:13 And you've got a lot of oncologists out there who focus on melanoma patients who seem to be begging for it.

1:35:19 So, again, what is it?

1:35:21 Can you explain what is it you saw that is different from what they see?

1:35:25 Look, I'm not going to talk about an individual product.

1:35:28 But if you read what we call our complete response letter, you will see the details of the FDA's logic, and you will see some of those things shown not to be correct.

1:35:40 Can you give me something here to hang on to just understand what some of the details would be?

1:35:45 We publish all of it.

1:35:47 So, for example, if you want to see whether or not a drug adds a benefit to cancer patients, you run a control group where patients don't get the drug.

1:35:58 The FDA clearly recommended that control group.

1:36:00 The company clearly did not do that control group.

1:36:03 And so, by law, we can only approve drugs with, quote, substantial evidence.

1:36:07 You went back and forth with them about that.

1:36:09 Didn't they say that that would be unfair to those patients given the efficacy of the drug itself?

1:36:13 The FDA has had numerous meetings with almost every company that brings products before it.

1:36:18 The recommendations of the FDA were clear, misrepresented in the media.

1:36:24 How did they misrepresent?

1:36:26 Well, saying that they changed the goalposts, they don't change the goalposts.

1:36:29 So when we're talking about how hard it is for RFK Jr. to do stuff, this is exactly what this guy got pressed out.

1:36:36 They threatened him.

1:36:38 Who knows?

1:36:39 Yeah, that's why they came up with the vape thing.

1:36:42 Yes, exactly.

1:36:43 No, that's what you do.

1:36:44 You're pounding, you're pounding, you're pounding.

1:36:46 You say, well, hell with it.

1:36:47 Let's go after him some other way.

1:36:49 Yep, and there it is.

1:36:50 Let's dream some scheme up here and then we'll go with this.

1:36:53 What side is he on here?

1:36:55 Well, that's what Trump wanted to do.

1:36:56 Okay, well, let's go after him.

1:36:58 Call Kimmel.

1:36:59 Call Kimmel.

1:37:00 Get him to make some jokes.

1:37:01 Yeah, you just keep doing it until the guy gives up.

1:37:05 This happened with a woman who just quit the, I think she was the CDC or FDA.

1:37:10 And I had a clip.

1:37:12 I didn't have a clip, but I was going to discuss her.

1:37:15 And she was drummed out, you know, the same way because this is major.

1:37:22 If you didn't have the pharmacy companies so big and powerful that Cassidy didn't get in because he's supported by them.

1:37:31 And you even hear this guy saying, hey, they're running ads on your network.

1:37:37 Yeah, that's why our CNBC guy is like, whoa, what's wrong with you?

1:37:41 I mean, you know, it was a perfectly good drug.

1:37:43 Everyone, the CEO says, oh, what's that?

1:37:45 The Wall Street Journal, nine opinion pieces.

1:37:47 There was money behind this.

1:37:49 Big money.

1:37:52 and it was probably just for some stock win.

1:37:56 I don't think they have care about 8,000 melanoma patients.

1:37:59 Well, there was a stock at play.

1:38:02 There had to be.

1:38:04 So that's what that's-

1:38:05 No, it was.

1:38:06 It was called Replimune.

1:38:07 Okay.

1:38:07 And that's what all this-

1:38:09 It's down to five bucks a share now.

1:38:11 Ah, there you go.

1:38:12 Everyone lost their shirt.

1:38:13 So out you go, vapes.

1:38:16 We'll do something.

1:38:17 We'll do something.

1:38:18 We'll make you look stupid.

1:38:19 Yeah.

1:38:21 I don't think Trump even knew about this part.

1:38:24 No, he can't keep up with this stuff.

1:38:26 Kennedy can barely do it.

1:38:28 Stephen Colbert had his last show.

1:38:35 Do you know if you saw it?

1:38:38 No, I'll go back and look at it eventually.

1:38:41 He had David Letterman on and they threw stuff off the roof of the CBS building.

1:38:45 Yeah, I did see that.

1:38:46 They clipped that and put it online.

1:38:47 Yeah, I saw that.

1:38:50 And we discussed this offline after the show, one or two shows ago.

1:38:55 I'll just play this little brief bit about his replacement.

1:38:59 Meanwhile, fellow late-nighter Jimmy Kimmel joked at Disney's annual upfronts about CBS replacing Colbert with Byron Allen's comics Unleashed.

1:39:07 Quote, it's bad enough to lose your job.

1:39:09 Imagine getting replaced by the owner of the Weather Channel.

1:39:12 So Byron Allen will be replacing him.

1:39:18 Our initial thought was, go ahead.

1:39:22 Pretty embarrassing.

1:39:24 It's an insult.

1:39:25 Yeah, it's an insult.

1:39:27 I mean, Byron Allen is something of a genius entrepreneur, billionaire,

1:39:31 and he's been doing the same kind of schlock programming forever,

1:39:36 although he does, when it comes to the food stuff,

1:39:39 he has a number of foodie productions that he does that are extremely well produced.

1:39:46 But most of his stuff is just, you know, because Byron Allen, who's a black guy, is a wannabe comic who's not funny.

1:39:54 Yeah.

1:39:54 But he's got a knack for producing kind of low-budget, mid-quality material, and he's been doing it forever.

1:40:05 Way before we started this show, he was doing stuff.

1:40:09 And he has this Comics Unleashed show, which is terrible.

1:40:15 I mean, it's just not well done, but it's cheap.

1:40:19 It's super cheap.

1:40:20 So that's how he's made his money, leverage.

1:40:23 Here's the kicker.

1:40:24 CBS didn't replace Stephen Colbert with Byron Allen.

1:40:29 He is paying for the time slot.

1:40:32 Oh, that would make sense.

1:40:34 He bought the time slot.

1:40:36 That makes total sense.

1:40:37 Yeah.

1:40:38 And it's probably going to be more profitable than any of the other late-night shows.

1:40:43 Yeah.

1:40:44 Because it's what he does.

1:40:45 he's going to make good money off of that yeah it's like an infomercial yes exactly you buy those

1:40:51 spots exactly and then everyone else is going to go you know you'll see nbc the network actually

1:40:57 instead of losing 40 million dollars a year will be making money doing nothing yes for something

1:41:02 that almost no one watches anyway yes infomercial level a couple million people of which none are in

1:41:10 the demo no right you want you want to sell medical devices you want to sell that i didn't

1:41:16 know that but now you mentioned genius right that's why byron allen is a billionaire he's

1:41:21 something of a genius in terms of tv it's schlock but it's still what are you gonna do what tv is

1:41:31 good i mean it's all schlock yeah ever since damon brunetti stopped producing shows and you know

1:41:36 it's just gone downhill yeah i'm doing this to get out of a lawsuit by the way oh he's

1:41:42 you know good old dana yeah that guy i heard that he's uh he hates hollywood i love telling

1:41:51 my church people yeah you know daniel brunetti big hollywood guy he's uh he listens to the show

1:41:56 he's kind of a friend you know what do you do uh 50 shades of gray what that's pornography

1:42:03 no that was 50 shades of grayer that was the bad one yeah house of cards there was a trilogy

1:42:10 there was three um money yeah oh three money makers yeah of course yeah of course that's

1:42:16 why he has a fire truck and a farm yeah the fire truck and we're podcasters i'm just you know we

1:42:23 we got cash flow i'm

1:42:24 all right you got anything else you want to do yeah let's see before we have any yeah i want to

1:42:34 do um you know what the sharia law clip is always good sharia law in the usa big thread i find this

1:42:42 to be kind of kind of hopeless but let's play these clips and lawmakers warn that groups in

1:42:48 support of sharia law have a long-term goal of widespread influence here in the u.s warnings of

1:42:54 sharia's authoritarian nature and social class divisions based on sex and religion they point

1:43:00 to already existing sharia-based tribunal courts happening in texas and the united kingdom and

1:43:06 dd correspondent jason blair brings us that story people do not have protection from imposing a

1:43:12 foreign legal system or code that overrides or replaces u.s civil or criminal law nor the

1:43:17 constitution house republicans warn that stronger action needs to be taken to curb the rise of sharia

1:43:23 law tribunals and acting courts in the u.s political islam silences dissent prohibits

1:43:29 religious freedom allows barbaric punishments and treats women children and non-muslims as

1:43:33 second-class citizens at a congressional hearing wednesday one witness said many islamic groups

1:43:38 have openly stated their long-term intent of gradually making the u.s an islamic society

1:43:43 They've written it down in the project in a 12-point plan. You can read it for yourself.

1:43:48 They've come to make this country like they've made countries all across the world Islamic.

1:43:54 Amy Meckleberg, founder of Rare Foundation USA, says there are Sharia-based tribunal services operating in America.

1:44:01 All across different places throughout the United States, from birth to death, they now have full operational societies.

1:44:08 So within these societies, they have their courts.

1:44:10 Subcommittee Chairman Chip Roy says that the U.K. has 85 Sharia law courts operating in the country.

1:44:16 Muslims are increasingly turning to Sharia courts to settle disputes rather than the U.K.'s legal system.

1:44:21 He said U.K.

1:44:23 Yeah.

1:44:25 Yeah.

1:44:25 So it's called arbitration.

1:44:29 That's what that is.

1:44:32 It's arbitration.

1:44:36 Well, whatever it is, in the U.K., it seems to be somewhat popular with certain groups of people.

1:44:41 Yeah, amongst the Muslims.

1:44:42 Yeah, well, that's what they do.

1:44:44 But it's just like the nature that this guy is going to take over the U.S. and we're going to do this.

1:44:49 Oh, please.

1:44:49 This is nonsense.

1:44:50 This is midterm fear-mongering is what this is.

1:44:55 Vote for Chip Roy.

1:44:56 Vote for Chip Roy.

1:44:58 Yeah, Chip Roy, he's your buddy.

1:45:00 He's a Texas boy.

1:45:01 I'll stop the Muslim compounds in Texas.

1:45:06 And whenever I say this, people are always like, look at this, man.

1:45:09 This is happening.

1:45:10 It's real.

1:45:10 Yeah, maybe.

1:45:11 But we're a little.

1:45:13 Just look at the percentage of Muslims in the United States and what their influence is.

1:45:17 Most Muslims in the United States are not for this stuff.

1:45:20 No.

1:45:21 And we don't have open borders where crazy Muslims are coming in.

1:45:27 And we don't have a society where we allow, at least we should not, where we allow them

1:45:33 to fire up their loudspeakers five times a day

1:45:37 and have them stop and bow in the middle of the street.

1:45:42 Now, you may see some videos about that,

1:45:45 but that kind of stuff usually doesn't fly in America.

1:45:49 This is different.

1:45:50 Europe is like, oh, no, this is multicultural.

1:45:52 We have to be nice to everybody.

1:45:54 And it took 25 years, if not almost 30.

1:45:58 Well, actually, the praying in the middle of the street

1:46:00 doesn't fly in Saudi Arabia either.

1:46:03 But, you know, people are online, they're like, oh, it's happening.

1:46:06 And if it's happening in your town, then you should put a stop to it.

1:46:11 That we can do.

1:46:12 But that didn't happen in Europe.

1:46:14 I saw this in the Netherlands.

1:46:16 I saw it when, and look, they did a great job.

1:46:19 When Pim Fortuyn was running for election and his party won after they killed him, assassinated him two weeks before the election,

1:46:29 he was saying, do not allow the Islamification of the Netherlands.

1:46:33 And he got killed, and then everybody shut up, went, oh, I probably shouldn't say anything about Islam, and still took 25 years to get to where it is today.

1:46:44 We have a lot of runway to stop anything nefarious.

1:46:48 But you are being played, you are being played, and I think it's, you know, there's these geofencing operations.

1:46:57 You heard about this?

1:46:58 Yeah, I have.

1:47:02 Apparently, Israel has been paying companies in America to pop up ads and manipulate algos geofenced around churches, particularly in California, but also in Texas, in the Dallas area, Austin.

1:47:17 And part of their geofencing is, Israel, great.

1:47:21 And part of it is, Islam, no good.

1:47:24 Be careful.

1:47:25 Be afraid.

1:47:26 So you're being played on all sides.

1:47:28 But I agree with you.

1:47:30 The influence is not that great.

1:47:32 oh man the amount of people this is this is our next uh our next waterloo you know part two part

1:47:40 two rep jamie raskin argues that no special laws against sharia law are necessary because

1:47:46 of the existence of current u.s law murder is against the law in america uh whether the parents

1:47:53 are muslim christian jewish hindu or anything else another witness who's a high school student

1:47:59 in texas says his republican student club faced hostile scrutiny and censorship by school

1:48:05 officials in stark contrast to pro-sharia groups while the republican student club faced denial

1:48:11 censorship post removal and hostile oversight an outside organization was giving easy access

1:48:15 to distribute sharia related materials directly to students administrators not only allowed it

1:48:19 they actively promote islamic events throughout the hearing democrats argued that existing u.s

1:48:23 law is enough to deter any threats while republicans called for urgent action citing sharia-based

1:48:30 tribunals and early warning signs in europe and texas reporting on capitol hill jason blair entity

1:48:36 news next today is world fallen duff a day so if you ask anyone what is sharia law wait for the

1:48:45 answer what is the what is sharia law everyone thinks that somehow well it's going to supersede

1:48:53 American law. No, and I have to agree with Raskin

1:48:55 on that case. It's not

1:48:57 going to supersede American law.

1:48:59 You can't go killing people.

1:49:00 But that's also not what Sharia law is.

1:49:03 Like, you stole my chicken.

1:49:04 I get to take some beads.

1:49:06 It's not going to chop your hand off.

1:49:09 It's not quite that extreme.

1:49:11 Yeah, I haven't

1:49:13 seen that take place yet.

1:49:15 Have we seen a good stoning in America

1:49:17 yet? A good Sharia law

1:49:19 stoning? There's been a lot of people that have been stoned

1:49:21 but not in that way.

1:49:23 so if if sharia law suddenly and you know you then you can go stone a girl because she kissed

1:49:30 a boy yeah that is a that is against the law in america you can't go stoning people

1:49:35 but it's it's a meme now oh sharia law sharia law please tell me what is sharia law trolls

1:49:42 what because the trolls are all into this what is sharia law they can't tell you

1:49:46 it's fear-mongering to get your vote for chip roy and kem paxton and a bunch of other guys

1:49:56 so we have uh we got a couple of things here i do have a three by three we can do that and

1:50:04 get out of here oh well three by three is always now it's time for three by three yes

1:50:09 experiment by jcb comparing stories from abc cbs and mbc

1:50:16 that's right he's got the big three and then it's a story that will probably sound exactly

1:50:23 the same on all three networks but there's always a twist you never know what these cia broadcast

1:50:27 systems will do yeah that's where we leave them for last and we start with the abc people about

1:50:32 the terrorist attack tonight an iraqi national is in u.s custody accused of orchestrating terror

1:50:37 attacks like these, taking aim at American and Jewish targets around the world in retaliation

1:50:42 for the war in Iran. Federal prosecutors charging Mohammed al-Sadi with a slew of terror-related

1:50:48 crimes, alleging he coordinated 20 terror attacks in Europe and Canada in the last three months

1:50:53 and eyed additional attacks in the U.S., identifying targets in California, Arizona,

1:50:58 and New York City. He has been trying to inspire jihad around the world through the internet.

1:51:05 Prosecutors linked al-Sadi to this stabbing in London that left two Jewish men, including an American citizen, seriously injured.

1:51:11 Drop the knife!

1:51:12 To this attempted arson at Bank of New York Mellon in Amsterdam.

1:51:17 And this firebombing of a synagogue in North Macedonia.

1:51:21 Al-Sadi was apprehended this week in Turkey.

1:51:23 In court today, he claimed he's a political prisoner being persecuted for his ties to Iranian General Qasem Soleimani,

1:51:30 the military commander killed by a U.S. airstrike in 2020.

1:51:34 he's essentially being subjected to a political prosecution that he's a prisoner of war and should

1:51:40 be treated as such but with federal prosecutors portrayed al-sadi as a terrorist mastermind who

1:51:46 they said successfully coordinated attacks overseas and paid undercover agents to carry

1:51:52 out more attacks in this country undercover agents oh this guy's very sketchy story powerful very

1:52:01 powerful nbc tonight the fbi and nypd saying they foiled potential terror attacks against jewish

1:52:08 sites in new york la in scottsdale arizona plots they say are all tied to the iranian regime

1:52:15 this man muhammad al-sadi now held in a new york jail cell is an alleged high-ranking member of

1:52:21 the mysterious terror group called hayi authorities say they've already carried out 18 terror attacks

1:52:29 in Europe, primarily targeting the Jewish community, including this suspect, tackled

1:52:34 by British police after a stabbing rampage outside a London mosque, and the group carrying

1:52:40 out the firebombing of this Belgian synagogue.

1:52:42 Tonight, the FBI says HAYI is a front for the Iranian-backed terror group Hezbollah,

1:52:48 and they say al-Sadi's ties go right to the top of the Iranian regime.

1:52:52 Multiple photos show al-Sadi with former Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Qusaym

1:52:57 Soleimani, killed in a U.S. drone strike during President Trump's first term.

1:53:02 Ah, there it is. This is Trump's fault.

1:53:04 Al-Sadi has specifically threatened to kill President Trump on social media.

1:53:08 He is certainly a leader in this terrorist organization,

1:53:12 and he was directing and inspiring terrorist attacks.

1:53:15 These photos, exclusively obtained by NBC News, show his arrival in New York last night

1:53:20 after he was taken into custody by Turkish authorities, according to prosecutors.

1:53:24 They say since April, he's been communicating with an undercover officer offering to pay tens of thousands of dollars to attack Jewish sites in the U.S.

1:53:33 Oh.

1:53:34 Tom, these are alarming developments.

1:53:37 The suspect was in court today.

1:53:39 He appeared briefly in court.

1:53:41 His attorney says he thinks he's a prisoner of war.

1:53:43 Meanwhile, authorities believe the case underscores the wide variety of threats for events like the World Cup starting next month.

1:53:50 Oh, yes.

1:53:52 Now, let me ask you some questions about this.

1:53:54 getting the world cup in there yeah yeah let me ask some questions um so was he communicating

1:53:59 with an undercover officer a uh on our side like one of our fbi guys is that how they nailed this

1:54:06 guy well didn't it didn't it wasn't it clearly explained in the report no i didn't think it was

1:54:11 clearly they keep talking about he had he paid agents around the world to do stuff he was linked

1:54:17 to Suleimani, Trump's trophy.

1:54:20 So I'm just waiting for this to be Trump's fault.

1:54:25 And that synagogue in Amsterdam,

1:54:29 they locked off a whole part of the city.

1:54:32 You can't even drive in certain directions because of that.

1:54:35 But I didn't hear anything about this.

1:54:37 So like some nut jobs,

1:54:39 but I didn't hear any connections to this guy.

1:54:40 I don't know, this whole thing is fishy.

1:54:43 Appearing in a federal court in Manhattan today,

1:54:45 muhammad al-sadi cbs yes cbs appearing in a federal court in manhattan today muhammad al-sadi

1:54:51 smiled as a judge read off the list of terrorism charges arrested in turkey in the last 24 hours

1:54:56 and extradited to new york al-sadi is accused of trying to hire someone who happened to be an

1:55:01 undercover officer now it's clear carry out attacks in los angeles scottsdale arizona and

1:55:06 new york city well the system worked then we stopped him new york city police commissioner

1:55:10 jessica tish said we disrupted a plan to attack a manhattan synagogue and in partnership with

1:55:15 The synagogue's leadership ensured its security when the threat was elevated.

1:55:18 Prosecutors say on April 3rd, Al-Sadi sent maps of a New York synagogue and Jewish centers in L.A. and Scottsdale to the undercover officer, agreeing to pay him $10,000.

1:55:28 In the next day, Al-Sadi is alleged to have sent $3,000 in crypto as a down payment for the New York attack, texting, I want to see good news tonight, not tomorrow, bro.

1:55:37 Prosecutors say Al-Sadi is the commander of Qatai Hezbollah.

1:55:41 Bro, wait a minute.

1:55:42 Where is this guy?

1:55:44 Is he New Jersey, bro?

1:55:46 He is alleged to have sent $3,000 in crypto as a down payment for the New York attack.

1:55:51 Texting, I want to see good news tonight, not tomorrow, bro.

1:55:54 Prosecutors say al-Sadi is a commander of Khatib Hezbollah,

1:55:58 an Iran-backed terrorist group with ties to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

1:56:01 He's pictured here with the late Iranian general Qasem Soleimani,

1:56:05 killed by a U.S. drone strike in 2020 on orders from President Trump.

1:56:08 His defense attorney said al-Sadi is being punished for his ties to Soleimani.

1:56:13 This case is a political case, and it's a political prosecution, and we're going to be litigating it as such.

1:56:21 Prosecutors also say after the war began, al-Sadi helped launch...

1:56:24 Wait a minute, wait a minute.

1:56:25 He called it a political case?

1:56:28 Well, that's what he calls it.

1:56:31 Well, isn't that just terrorism?

1:56:32 That's an interesting point.

1:56:36 For his ties to Soleimani.

1:56:38 This case is a political case, and it's a political prosecution, and we're going to be litigating it as such.

1:56:46 Prosecutors also say after the war began, al-Sadi helped launch 18 terror attacks across Europe,

1:56:51 including on a synagogue and a Jewish school in Belgium, and the stabbing of two Jewish men in London last month.

1:56:57 CBS contributor Sam Vinograd said retaliatory acts of terrorism could become more common.

1:57:03 Even when drones, missiles and more stop flying over Iranian airspace, it is more than likely that these military campaigns have inspired a generation of individuals to continue to try to wreak havoc.

1:57:18 And al-Sadi is facing multiple terrorism charges, including providing material support for acts of terrorism.

1:57:25 If convicted, Major, he could face up to life in prison.

1:57:29 Yeah, whenever we have like, he hired an undercover cop, doesn't even mention if it was FBI or not, an agent, and then he sent him some crypto and used bro.

1:57:40 I'm like, this guy was some, probably some schmuck.

1:57:44 And they found a picture of him with Soleimani.

1:57:48 It sounds sketchy to me.

1:57:50 Well, maybe you could be right, but I think it's just a maniac.

1:57:54 Yeah.

1:57:55 And he's got a boatload, he's got a bunch of cash and he's-

1:58:00 Crypto.

1:58:00 Traveling all over the place, like he goes to Macedonia, then he's in Turkey, then he's in Holland, and then he's in New York.

1:58:05 Well, no, no, he hired people to do that stuff.

1:58:08 Yeah, but he's been floating around too.

1:58:10 He didn't do it from Turkey.

1:58:13 He's not hiring anybody to blow up a synagogue in Arizona from Turkey.

1:58:20 There's nobody, there's no connection.

1:58:21 It's not possible.

1:58:23 He's got to come over here to do some of that stuff.

1:58:25 The good news is he's off the streets.

1:58:27 The FBI has done it again.

1:58:29 We're safe.

1:58:30 Sleep well, citizen.

1:58:31 Go back to playing your harpsichord, citizen.

1:58:34 Everything is well.

1:58:35 And by the way, my last clip is Harvey Weinstein.

1:58:40 We're not safe because he's going to be out of jail.

1:58:42 To the index now, a judge declared a mistrial in Harvey Weinstein's rape retrial.

1:58:47 The decision after a jury in Manhattan could not reach a unanimous verdict following three days of deliberations.

1:58:54 This was the third time Weinstein was tried on accusations he raped an aspiring actress in a hotel room in 2013.

1:59:00 Weinstein's lawyers argued the sexual encounter was consensual.

1:59:04 A hearing next month could determine if there will be a fourth trial.

1:59:08 That is odd, isn't it?

1:59:12 Yeah.

1:59:12 Well, then I have two clips just to wind it all up because we're going to reopen Epstein trials, more trials coming.

1:59:23 Oh, great. That's terrific. How many people have gone to jail so far?

1:59:27 Well, one person, they want blood and they have a target on one guy.

1:59:31 Here's the MS now setting us up.

1:59:34 On the committee heard dramatic testimony from survivors at a field hearing this week in Palm Beach County, where many of Epstein's crimes took place.

1:59:42 When I was 14 years old, I was abused by Jeffrey Epstein.

1:59:46 He abused me until I was 17 years old.

1:59:49 What happened to me was terrible, but what happened after that by our own government changed my life just as much.

1:59:56 I came here today to ask for one simple thing, to make sure this never happens again.

2:00:02 I kept my identity protected as Jane Doe.

2:00:05 I woke up one day with my name mentioned over 500 times.

2:00:16 While rich and powerful remain protected by reduction, my name was exposed to the world.

2:00:21 Okay, so both of them say that they were abused by the U.S. government.

2:00:28 You wanted to say something?

2:00:31 No, I was going to say they got outed by the U.S. government.

2:00:34 Yeah, but I think the first one said it was worse.

2:00:38 Yeah.

2:00:39 So the Democrats in this case want blood, and I think they'll get it.

2:00:46 I think they'll get it. And it's about one guy and one guy only.

2:00:49 But let's turn now, sir, to the Epstein investigation, because all House Oversight

2:00:54 Democrats are calling for Commerce Secretary Howard Ludnick to resign over his Epstein testimony.

2:00:58 What should the American people know about his interview and how it fits into the overall probe?

2:01:05 Look, no one should be serving the American people, certainly not as a cabinet secretary,

2:01:09 when you are essentially a known liar and unwilling to tell the truth.

2:01:13 when you lie to the public and when you're not honest in a deposition in front of the Congress.

2:01:18 We all have seen Howard Lutnick in multiple times say that after 2005, he had no interaction with

2:01:25 Jeffrey Epstein, that he had known very well. And now we just know that that wasn't true. We know

2:01:29 that he went to the island, that he went into business with Jeffrey Epstein, that he communicated

2:01:33 and his wife communicated with him. And so then to them, him go into this interview with Congress

2:01:38 and not admit to that and evade look he needs to resign or be fired he has lied to the american

2:01:46 people and that is nothing that's not something a cabinet secretary should be doing and beyond that

2:01:51 this points back to this massive cover-up howard lutnick has been involved at the white house

2:01:55 continuing to cover up for the doj telling lies and he's got to go yeah i think he will

2:02:01 i think that's that's the scalp they want now once why just to do it let there's just a nut

2:02:09 nick by the he's a commerce guy who cares yeah he's important to trump because of the

2:02:14 the usdc he's the big stable coin guy okay yeah he's a big stable coin guy so this i know he's

2:02:23 the guy that uh that musk wanted to be secretary of the treasury he's a big letnick fan oh i'm

2:02:30 I'm glad we got General Patton on the down low.

2:02:34 That guy's much better.

2:02:35 It's better, yeah.

2:02:35 Yeah, much better.

2:02:36 More fun.

2:02:37 Speaking of treasury, this podcast runs value for value.

2:02:44 And you've listened up to this point.

2:02:47 You might want to listen a little bit further because you're going to find some very hilarious notes that people send in to this podcast.

2:02:55 Outstanding and interesting services that they provide to NOAA generation and collaborate together.

2:03:03 We have quite an amazing community, which is why I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you,

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2:03:18 Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also in the morning, our ship is a sea boost from the ground feet in the air.

2:03:23 in the morning to the trolls in the troll room let me count for a second there we go

2:03:28 1681 on the troll counts wonderful trolls good to have you here and congratulations with your

2:03:38 profile on cbs it's amazing now everybody knows how you operate and what you are

2:03:44 now of course a lot of these trolls are just listening patiently they're just listening to

2:03:48 the show um they like doing that because they got alerted by their modern podcast app which i think

2:03:54 you all should be using if not then you need to go to podcastapps.com uh these apps are fantastic

2:03:59 when we go live many of the no agenda nation shows go live and we have the live stream

2:04:05 and we have the troll room uh you get notified and you listen to that live in your actual podcast app

2:04:11 it's a new form of radio i tell you because if you don't have an opportunity it is we're reinventing

2:04:17 radio do you know that do you know that podcasts have now surpassed talk radio well that doesn't

2:04:23 surprise me uh there's still like some obscene number like 40 billion dollars in advertising

2:04:31 going to radio it's unbelievable how much money that's going to get disappear one of these days

2:04:37 yeah but it doesn't seem to be going to podcast you notice how uh the pivot the pivot pod they

2:04:43 thought that they were going to sell their show.

2:04:45 Eh, I don't think so.

2:04:47 They're just still sitting with the same

2:04:49 old outfit. Yeah, they were thinking of selling it for $10 million,

2:04:52 $100 million, or something.

2:04:53 Rogan money, they were talking. Yeah, Rogan money.

2:04:56 Rogan money, yeah. Until it turns out,

2:04:57 nah, not really.

2:04:58 It really isn't all that.

2:05:00 So, get one of those modern

2:05:03 podcast apps, and then consider supporting

2:05:05 the show. It's value for value. You can do

2:05:07 that in three ways. Time, talent, and treasure.

2:05:09 We love all of it.

2:05:11 Of course, treasure is extremely important for us

2:05:13 to keep our home fires burning.

2:05:15 But people do fun things.

2:05:17 They do a lot of cool stuff for the show.

2:05:19 Send boots on the ground,

2:05:21 jingles, clips, end of show mixes,

2:05:24 organized meetups,

2:05:25 and sometimes just, you know,

2:05:27 just troll us.

2:05:29 That's also a form of time and talent, I guess.

2:05:31 And then we have the artists

2:05:34 who prompt away and make artwork

2:05:37 for our album art,

2:05:39 which is critical to the success of the show

2:05:41 because it looks really great

2:05:43 on social media uh people love it and we always can it's kind of a feedback mechanism for us as

2:05:48 well when we really hit on something then we see a whole bunch of art pieces that show up about that

2:05:54 one thing and then we know that you know we succeeded in our mission we made you laugh

2:05:59 we made you cry we made you think about something and this was very prevalent with the numb nuts

2:06:05 which is the artwork done by francisco scaramanga uh numb nuts is what i called some members of our

2:06:14 intelligence agency the of the central one and it was a great piece we loved the candied macadamias

2:06:21 and then did you see what he did on x the video got you as looking like some sort of a thug

2:06:27 smoking smoking smoking stuff and yeah it was good it was fantastic you know i'm like can we get can

2:06:35 we get animated art for album work i have to see if we can make that that should be something that

2:06:39 the modern podcast apps do how cool would that be to have a little video playing instead that would

2:06:46 be cool that you have to make that part of the podcasting 2.0 spec i'm on it both i'm on it

2:06:53 let's take a look at what else was submitted at no agenda art generator.com uh a lot of value in

2:06:59 that operation uh from sir paul couture let us take a look here um we had some butts we have

2:07:05 butts that's comics for blogger oh we had a lot of uh pomp and pomp and ceremony there's another

2:07:10 one got a lot of pomp and ceremony art pieces um a lot of poop on the marble man that really hit

2:07:18 huh poop on the marble and then the mousetrap with the cheese and the chocolate did you see

2:07:24 the note that came in that someone said the mask finally slipped and you're actually a sadist and

2:07:29 a very very evil human oh yeah i i was talking about i got one of those notes too there's two

2:07:35 of them that i'm a terrible person for crushing a mouse now the fact is that that was just a joke

2:07:42 if you want to know what really happens when i get a mouse in a glue trap

2:07:47 because i'm like fearful of getting mouse fleas that hit me i actually take a plastic bag and

2:07:55 and slowly kick the mouse in the trap into the bag

2:07:59 and then seal the plastic bag

2:08:01 and throw it in the garbage as fast as I can.

2:08:03 So he's alive in the garbage

2:08:05 and he just dies slowly in the garbage?

2:08:07 No, he's dead already.

2:08:08 Usually they're dead already.

2:08:09 They die in that little thing.

2:08:10 So this morning, I was up at five.

2:08:12 So the guys who made these comments,

2:08:15 I think there's a couple of them,

2:08:16 they're idiots, okay?

2:08:18 It's just that simple.

2:08:20 This morning, I'm sitting in the kitchen at 5 a.m.

2:08:24 And it's kind of half dark.

2:08:25 And I see something out of the corner of my eye.

2:08:26 And I'm telling you, a mouse walked right across the floor.

2:08:29 I'm like, wow, I can't wait to use John's glue trap system.

2:08:34 It's great.

2:08:36 Well, you know, some of these mice have a lot of nerve.

2:08:39 Oh, he was bold.

2:08:40 Yeah.

2:08:41 He was very bold.

2:08:42 I'm going to get him.

2:08:43 No, you'll get him.

2:08:45 You have to be careful because they start to multiply pretty quickly.

2:08:47 Yeah, but I know how to get him.

2:08:48 I know how to get him.

2:08:49 And then, you know, just like the ants, I always leave them in the trap for half a day so everyone can smell them so they know.

2:08:56 This is death over here, people.

2:08:57 Don't come near this one.

2:08:59 Well, that's an interesting theory.

2:09:00 Well, it's your theory.

2:09:01 It's what you want to do after you torch the ants.

2:09:04 Yeah, how about you do that?

2:09:05 You want to leave that torch smell.

2:09:08 A lot of people, like on the blueberry tip, man, the blueberry in the hallway, that got a lot of art.

2:09:13 None of it was really fantastic, I have to say.

2:09:19 um yeah which is we thought the number a lot of submissions though yeah which is good we

2:09:25 like that so people are keeping busy keeping the ai companies uh uh unprofitable

2:09:32 so thank you very much uh scaramanga francisco scaramanga you know did i tell you his wife is

2:09:39 some supermodel or some like model no i never heard this yeah comics or blogger told me

2:09:45 he's seen a picture of her and he says,

2:09:48 he's like a model.

2:09:49 It kind of makes sense.

2:09:51 Good for him.

2:09:52 Yeah.

2:09:52 Yeah.

2:09:52 Hey,

2:09:53 the guy's lucky.

2:09:54 He could be a podcaster.

2:09:55 He's probably doing,

2:09:57 he's probably,

2:09:57 he's probably independently wealthy.

2:09:59 You know what I mean?

2:10:01 One of those guys.

2:10:02 We can dream up whatever we want.

2:10:05 That's right.

2:10:05 With a name like Scaramanga,

2:10:07 it could be anything.

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2:10:53 We still have a few Order of the Heart Red Knights available, which is just that beautiful package that you get.

2:11:03 And that was kind of a promo to welcome you back to the world of the living.

2:11:08 And I think we'll have one, if not two of them today, because we start with Samuel Montgomery from Arvada, Colorado, who comes in with $1,000 plus fees.

2:11:18 So that's $1,030.26.

2:11:20 Thank you for saving us the fees.

2:11:22 And he says, ITM John and Adam, first-time donor.

2:11:26 I'm a registered cardiovascular invasive specialist.

2:11:30 I've been that for 20 years.

2:11:32 I'm going to give him a de-douche.

2:11:33 You've been de-douched.

2:11:37 I assist with performing cardiac cath procedures, which I assume John had prior to his open-heart surgery.

2:11:44 It is an honor to become a red knight.

2:11:47 Did you have a cath, cardiac cath procedure?

2:11:52 They run this thing up your leg.

2:11:53 Oh, in your leg?

2:11:55 Well, they start in the leg, the top of the part of the leg, and then they run this thing up the veins or something.

2:12:01 with a and they just run it up there to check out and then they send some some horrible dye

2:12:07 into your system that then toxic poisons your kidneys and then uh i could go on and on about

2:12:14 this and then they uh and then you had i had to go on dialysis for like a month and a half to get

2:12:20 this poison out of the system does dialysis does that hurt does it suck what's that like actually

2:12:25 uh not being on it is nice yeah but but uh but when you're on it it's like uh you can nap through

2:12:35 it oh so i just dozed off but it's no it doesn't hurt at all it's actually it's just annoyingly

2:12:43 waste of time because it takes forever jay jay please get a picture of john napping during

2:12:48 dialysis too late oh you don't have to do it anymore no no i haven't done it for a month now

2:12:54 Oh, good. I'm good. I'm happy to hear that.

2:12:56 How about the fluids? Is that over now?

2:13:00 No, I still had some fluids drained the other day.

2:13:03 I'm actually kind of clear right now, so I have a more sonorous voice.

2:13:07 You do?

2:13:07 I can make deeper sounds.

2:13:09 I don't know when that's going to end.

2:13:15 That's getting annoying because they have this one guy who's actually pretty good at it,

2:13:19 doing these thoracentesis where they stick.

2:13:23 so this guy's really good at it doesn't it doesn't hurt and it's actually quite pleasant so the time

2:13:30 before last uh the guy this guy's his name's hans he's a excellent at this and his name is hans

2:13:39 hans hans he's actually in he's more of an asian but anyway so he says i have a resident here who

2:13:46 wants to observe uh so he can do this too okay and would you mind having that you happen and you

2:13:54 being a nice guy you went yeah sure no problem i went sure yeah no problem and uh but that was a

2:14:01 mistake because instead of the normal uh you know the the way he normally soothes the way he does

2:14:08 the whole shit shivs you with the needle to drain you it goes like this okay here's what i'm doing

2:14:15 now i'm going between the third and fourth rib and notice that is going as it goes into the

2:14:20 you know the cavity with the between the ribs and he's describing this the whole process

2:14:26 and it's just it's disconcerting at the say the least that so that's

2:14:30 so people out there don't have an intern or a uh resident watch anything

2:14:37 it was disgusting i'm so sorry but it was it less fluid than normal are we on the on the on

2:14:45 are we on the uptake here are we doing better with this yeah i think barely yes because i because you

2:14:52 know i don't want to have to have an operation for that that was no there's it's just the whole

2:14:55 thing is it's just annoying yeah yeah but are you going to go home soon are you going to go back

2:15:00 home yeah i can probably get there now i mean i but you know it's some it's kind of comfortable

2:15:06 being waited on here so oh my back hurts somebody get me an aspirin

2:15:14 i'm with you i hear you it's comfortable nice all right

2:15:20 all right uh onward with steve slocum who also came in with a thousand dollars

2:15:29 uh hello adam and john my name is steve slocum from columbia station ohio long time listener

2:15:36 first time donor i started listening let's deduce him let's deduce him i mean he didn't ask for it

2:15:41 you've been de-douched i started yeah good i started listening after adam's first

2:15:49 rogan appearance rogan donation rogan this information is a bit late but i felt it was

2:15:56 relevant to the show i'd worked in one of the country's largest va health care facilities

2:16:03 before and during and after covid the messaging this country received during that period of time

2:16:09 was dramatically different than what was happening in these facilities.

2:16:13 Veterans with active COVID diagnosis were forced to isolate in patient rooms together

2:16:21 for extended periods of time when social distancing was arguably at its worst.

2:16:26 It was sickening to witness the lies firsthand,

2:16:30 thanks to the two of you and all the producers during that time

2:16:34 for providing grounded, relevant information to keep some sanity in the world.

2:16:39 Oh, thank you, belatedly.

2:16:41 With my $1,000 Bitcoin donation.

2:16:44 Nice.

2:16:46 I guess it would be.

2:16:47 Yeah, it did come in as Bitcoin, yeah.

2:16:49 I would like to claim an instant knighthood of the order of the heart to assist with John's recovery.

2:16:55 I'd like to claim Sir Steve as my official title.

2:16:58 Request Reverend Manning Bitcoin jingle as well as health karma for all.

2:17:03 Thanks, gentlemen.

2:17:06 they're saying that all hell is going to break loose and you're going to need a bitcoin

2:17:10 you've got karma lovely there you go you know a lot of people forget what we did during covid

2:17:21 they forget what we told you about ukraine they forget all these things and then they'll yell at

2:17:27 us for things and then in five years we'll be like come back a couple years late yeah it's all right

2:17:33 That's all right.

2:17:34 It's all right.

2:17:34 We can handle it.

2:17:35 2026.

2:17:36 What do you say we make this show an even 20 years?

2:17:40 20 years.

2:17:42 There you go.

2:17:43 We're getting there.

2:17:44 Sir E61, Black Sheep.

2:17:46 Now, this is time, talent, and treasure all in one.

2:17:50 He's the guy that I was talking about earlier.

2:17:52 Yeah.

2:17:53 He gave us three.

2:17:55 Sir E61, is that some rank?

2:17:56 No, I think that's a Nokia phone.

2:17:59 But maybe it is.

2:18:02 I don't know.

2:18:02 He's in Johnson City, Tennessee, but he's not because he's boogieing out of Kuwait.

2:18:07 He says, I sent Adam an update, which is $343.75, which might have been $333.33 with fees.

2:18:14 We evacuated. You get real time here, fellas.

2:18:17 So there you go. Treasure, talent, and time all in one.

2:18:22 Thank you very much, Sir E61 Black Sheep.

2:18:24 Michael Trumbull in Morris, Minnesota, 333.33.

2:18:32 Here's a much overdue donation to the best podcast in the universe.

2:18:35 Your efforts and insights are indispensable.

2:18:39 And since COVID have been under supported, under supported, I tell you, in the treasure area.

2:18:46 Thoughts and prayers for you both.

2:18:48 Mitch Trumbull.

2:18:50 Thank you, Mitch.

2:18:51 Dennis Cato coming in from Tampa, Florida.

2:18:54 We recognize the name 33333 ITM John and Adam, just to give you some background.

2:19:00 I actually have a history of correspondence with John going back to 1999.

2:19:05 Though I'm sure he doesn't recall.

2:19:08 Let's find out.

2:19:08 Oh, I recall every note.

2:19:10 Let's see if John remembers this.

2:19:14 I was a Mac guy and an Apple employee that would routinely take offense to his articles where he would suggest Apple shut the doors, sell the stock, and give it back to the shareholders or that Jobs Return would do absolutely nothing to bring the brand back to prominence, etc.

2:19:30 after well wait wait wait after a few beers i send some aggressively curt emails to john

2:19:37 suggesting that he find a new position in life that probably went something like fu but i was

2:19:44 amazed when he actually would respond to my rantings and would be ever so gracious and sweet

2:19:50 okay do you remember this oh yeah i'm a sweet guy no no i'm sure he wasn't the only there's a bunch

2:19:57 Okay, so I was hired, this really became mostly during the Mac era when I was hired as the anti-editor of Mac User.

2:20:07 Yes.

2:20:07 By the publisher, Felix Dennis, who I knew.

2:20:11 Is he dead?

2:20:12 And he says, would you like to be the, we'd like to put you on the inside back cover, but your job is to just say bad things so we can balance the magazine.

2:20:23 And you went, heck yeah, I'm in.

2:20:26 Oh, yeah, I can do that. No problemo. And so I was on the masthead as the anti-editor. And I wrote these columns at the back, which were always critical. But I was also critical in PC Magazine and elsewhere, especially when I wrote the column, which I think Steve Jobs put up in a frame, which was Steve Jobs' good riddance when he quit.

2:20:53 it was a classic but yeah i get a bunch of guys like this that were

2:20:59 irked by my my rantings that's funny he says speaking of sweet like john we invite everyone

2:21:08 to try our manuka gold honey with lemongrass ginger and turmeric visit us at manukagold.com

2:21:15 that's manuka with a k for our wonderful line of wellness products be well at manukagold.com

2:21:23 uh so this is an apple guy who sold this stock and bought some bees

2:21:27 and i love that story and i love your product dennis dennis cadle tampa florida thank you

2:21:34 eli the coffee guy in bensonville illinois 205 17 cheers to bulgaria winner of the 70th

2:21:39 eurovision contest as the boys in the millennial media offensive say the black sea is in play

2:21:46 Wouldn't surprise me to hear more from Bulgaria and Romania as European nationalism shifts further east.

2:21:53 That sea matters more than most realize for the energy needs of the West.

2:21:59 Fortunately, none of the current world turmoil has touched the coffee supply yet.

2:22:05 Get some fresh roasted coffee and visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM20.

2:22:11 For 20% off your order, stay caffeinated.

2:22:13 Eli, the coffee guy.

2:22:16 Then coming in with $200, another associate executive producership for A.Farmer from Uden in the Netherlands.

2:22:24 And he wants to hear a boogity boogity, mac and cheese, shut up slaves, and a yak karma.

2:22:30 And he says, or traveling yak karma.

2:22:33 Bless me, podfathers, for I have sinned.

2:22:36 I would like to thank you both for your time and talent.

2:22:40 After eight years of listening here, buy some treasure.

2:22:42 I would like a de-do.

2:22:43 Oh, yeah, it's time for that.

2:22:45 You've been de-douched.

2:22:46 John, I love your view on the world,

2:22:48 the stories you tell about the different jobs you had

2:22:50 and situations you were in.

2:22:52 By the way, my smoking hot wife really likes your voice.

2:22:55 Ah.

2:22:56 Adam, thank you for inventing podcasting,

2:22:59 providing the biweekly crisp and perfect sound quality

2:23:02 and making the show so much fun to listen to.

2:23:04 I'm the fun one.

2:23:05 My kids know your intro by heart,

2:23:07 reproducing it every time a new episode starts.

2:23:10 You guys are the best.

2:23:11 The No Agenda Show truly is the best podcast in the universe.

2:23:14 Now to business.

2:23:15 Message for the first Ukrainian clogs on the ground meetup.

2:23:22 Hear ye, hear ye.

2:23:23 To all farmers, shills, spooks, and members of the Gitmo Nations,

2:23:27 you are warmly invited to join us for burgers and beers

2:23:30 as we celebrate the birthday of our favorite former mink farmer,

2:23:34 now a dude named Ben.

2:23:35 We all raise a glass to knee-high corn,

2:23:38 to 1,563 days of Russian peace and freedom,

2:23:42 And to the honest and non-corrupt Ukrainians, the honest and non-corrupt Ukrainians, all while supporting the Ukrainian economy.

2:23:49 Join us. This is the first.

2:23:51 Join us on Saturday, June 6th at 6 o'clock at the Fat Moose in Bylaktserkva in Ukraine.

2:23:59 Man, I need a meter per portion of this.

2:24:01 Wow, that would be great if anyone shows up.

2:24:03 That's awesome.

2:24:04 We look forward to seeing you there.

2:24:06 Please RSVP, kind regards, a.farmer, end of message.

2:24:10 And he sent me a very long and beautiful boots on the ground about farming in Ukraine that was extremely informative.

2:24:20 And he also said everything. Yes, drones fly. Most of them are shot down, the Russian drones.

2:24:28 One of them exploded in one of his fields, a 10 by 10 foot hole, three feet deep.

2:24:36 He says, and yes, some people die and the cemeteries in Ukraine are unbelievably full.

2:24:43 They're just throwing bodies on top of one another.

2:24:46 There's flags everywhere.

2:24:47 But he also says the front has pretty much been stagnant for weeks.

2:24:51 There's not a lot going on, which makes sense because we haven't heard much.

2:24:54 We haven't heard much going on.

2:24:57 Anyway, that is a very good report.

2:25:00 Let me give you your jingles.

2:25:01 You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.

2:25:05 Mac and cheese.

2:25:06 Mac and cheese, macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together.

2:25:10 Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.

2:25:12 The heart of slaves.

2:25:17 Boogie-dee, boogie-dee, boogie-dee, boogie-dee, boogie-dee.

2:25:21 Most of the drivers are new to tonight.

2:25:23 Lord, I want to thank you for the soul you've got.

2:25:26 You've got karma.

2:25:34 Linda Lou Patkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. $200 jobs karma. Your resume has about 10 seconds

2:25:40 to make an impression and most don't. For a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com.

2:25:47 Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership

2:25:53 results and impact. That's Image Makers Inc. with a K with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and

2:26:00 writer of winning resumes jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

2:26:08 and we have one final associate executive producer lois forestall forestall in bellingham washington

2:26:18 uh two hundred dollars we did not receive a note from lois so no we did get a note we did

2:26:23 where's the note yeah it's a note that says no note oh but i'm still gonna give lois a double

2:26:29 up karma if you don't mind you've got karma and with that we thank our executive and associate

2:26:36 executive producers for episode 1869 of the best podcast in the universe known as the no agenda

2:26:43 show and again these are credits that you receive and can use anywhere where hollywood style credits

2:26:49 are recognized thank you again for supporting us you executive and associate executive producers

2:26:54 Our formula is this.

2:26:55 We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

2:26:59 Order.

2:27:04 Order.

2:27:06 Shut up, slave.

2:27:08 Shut up, slave.

2:27:11 And I want to thank the rest of our $50 and above supporters, Value for Value,

2:27:16 which includes Mike Duffy from Blenheim, New Zealand, 194.61, which is...

2:27:22 That should probably be bumped.

2:27:23 That's right. He's going to be bumped up.

2:27:25 It's $333.33 New Zealand bucks and wants business karma.

2:27:30 The last round worked so well, we've quit our jobs.

2:27:33 Now we're hot-dogging full-time.

2:27:35 Thanks, Florida's hot dogs.

2:27:37 The best hot dogs in the universe.

2:27:39 Flora's hot dogs.

2:27:42 The best hot dogs in the universe.

2:27:44 That's interesting.

2:27:45 Is he a hot dog maker?

2:27:47 He's a hot dog maker.

2:27:48 Send us some product, bro.

2:27:50 You've got karma.

2:27:52 We want product, bro.

2:27:55 Bro.

2:27:55 Boob donation from the boob man himself, Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke of Luna,

2:28:01 lover of America and boobs, $80.08.

2:28:03 As always, he says, God bless America and boobs.

2:28:06 Sir Kevin O'Brien, Chicago, Illinois, with a small boob, $60.06.

2:28:10 You can see for yourself how that works.

2:28:12 Along with Les Tarkowski from Kingman, Arizona, $60 from David Arellanas from Escondido, California.

2:28:20 Steve Bantra.

2:28:20 Ah, yes.

2:28:21 Steve Bantra.

2:28:23 He is our Southwest pilot.

2:28:25 Southwest.

2:28:25 I used to love Southwest, but they are now the most expensive airline there is.

2:28:32 If you want to go to Nashville, what do you think a round trip to Nashville costs?

2:28:36 Well, it would probably normally be $69.

2:28:39 $700.

2:28:41 What?

2:28:43 Yes.

2:28:44 And that's not even before you get early boarding because they've changed it now.

2:28:49 You don't have that cool boarding that I like.

2:28:51 Now they have boarding groups.

2:28:52 And you still have to pay extra for your luggage.

2:28:55 It's insane.

2:28:56 You can fly Delta or United for $399.

2:28:59 I don't know.

2:29:01 I don't see why people still...

2:29:03 I think people are using up all of their...

2:29:04 Here's what I think happened.

2:29:06 I know what happened.

2:29:08 The CEO changed.

2:29:09 Yeah, the bean counters came in.

2:29:11 They said, let's have everybody use up all of their points and miles at these exorbitant prices.

2:29:16 And then we'll lower it down again.

2:29:18 I think they're just trying to get rid of all those point people.

2:29:21 Because I can't believe that they're paying that kind of money.

2:29:24 Anyway, Steve has nothing to do with the organization,

2:29:28 other than he flies for them, and I hear he's a great pilot.

2:29:30 And he says, have some more eggs, Steve Banstra.

2:29:34 $59.93.

2:29:36 Thank you, Steve.

2:29:36 Sir Shelfwood, I'm out in the Netherlands.

2:29:38 $59.86.

2:29:39 That's a 5, 6, 7, 8 donation, and I'm picking up the fees.

2:29:43 Keep on keeping on, he says.

2:29:44 He's from Gitmo Lowlands.

2:29:45 Mark Dunford, $58.56.

2:29:48 Sir Commodore Crummy, El Cajon, California, $57.98.

2:29:53 James Edmondson, South Plainfield, New Jersey, double nickels on the dime, $55.10.

2:29:59 Same for Anonymous Neil from Elm City in North Carolina.

2:30:02 And Dean Roker, also with double nickels on the dime.

2:30:04 Andrew Young, $52.72.

2:30:06 Baroness Monica, Drayton Valley, Alberta, California, $51.11.

2:30:11 And she says, boy, the exchange rate on Dollar Roos is atrocious.

2:30:18 Sorry about that, Baroness Monica, but thank you for the support.

2:30:21 Viscount Sir Economic Hitman, Tomball, Texas, $50 and one penny to stay out of that 50 group.

2:30:27 And here they are, Pamela Bradley, Tecumseh, Oklahoma.

2:30:31 I'm sure I did that wrong.

2:30:32 Chris Cohen, Austin, Texas.

2:30:34 Jason Geil, in Holland we say Geil, which is the Dutch people will be smiling.

2:30:42 Lake Oswego, Oregon.

2:30:44 Michael Sikora, Lake Elmo, Minnesota.

2:30:48 noah mcdonald traverse city michigan and scott lavender montgomery texas patrick

2:30:54 bomer in amstelveen the netherlands and he says gewoon for the best podcast from the universe yes

2:31:00 for you and for john yes and our last 50 donor is dame rosie posy and she is just saying that

2:31:07 she's very glad to hear how each episode john's voice is getting stronger yes she wrote a cute

2:31:13 card thank you and really pretty handwriting and she also uh wants to put paul lincoln sir mama's

2:31:20 boy of the arc welders on the birthday list for may 22nd and we will take care of all of that

2:31:25 thank you fifty dollars and above we never uh mention anyone under 50 for reasons of anonymity

2:31:30 and that is critical so we don't do that but we do see you and we thank you very much for all of

2:31:35 the support that you have given i do have an extra karma request i'll take for take care of sir bob

2:31:41 and we do break for nights once job and f cancer karma for himself and for his family jobs jobs

2:31:49 jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

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2:32:42 And at the top of the list, we see Eric Mackey, who we haven't heard from in a while, and he celebrates on the 18th tomorrow.

2:32:56 Happy birthday, Eric.

2:32:57 Brennan Lawton, ha, on the 18th as well.

2:33:01 This is a family affair.

2:33:03 And then, as we just heard, Dame Rosie Posey wishes her mama's boy of the Arkwelders a very happy birthday.

2:33:08 He celebrates on May 22nd.

2:33:10 We lift you all up and say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:33:16 It's your birthday, yeah.

2:33:18 And here we go.

2:33:19 Behold the order of the heart.

2:33:23 Pure of purpose, right from the start.

2:33:27 In the morning, brave and smart.

2:33:30 The order of the heart.

2:33:33 I'm very proud to bring two new Orders of the Heart into our family, and in fact they will be knighted momentarily, but we like to do this right up at the top. Samuel Montgomery and Steve Slocum, both of you gentlemen, will become Red Knights Order of the Heart momentarily, and we thank you so much for your insta-knight donations.

2:33:55 Behold the order of the heart, pure of purpose, right from the start.

2:34:02 In the morning, brave and smart, the order of the heart.

2:34:07 Now let's bring these guys up on the podium.

2:34:11 There is my blade.

2:34:13 We need to make them official.

2:34:14 If you can take it out of the scabbard there.

2:34:16 Very nice.

2:34:17 That's a handsome one.

2:34:18 I like that one.

2:34:19 Samuel Montgomery and Steve Slocum, gentlemen, pop up here on the podium

2:34:23 as it is time for you to become official as I am very proud to pronounce to Kate V

2:34:28 as Sir Samuel Montgomery and Sir Steve, both knights of the no agenda round table.

2:34:34 With that, we give you a host of goodies including hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay,

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2:34:42 Hey, that's what we have.

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2:34:46 Gaseous and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon,

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2:34:53 And, of course, we've got the mutton and the mead right here for you.

2:34:57 Woo-hoo!

2:34:58 Head over to noagenarings.com, gentlemen,

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2:35:21 It's really quite efficient and beautiful.

2:35:24 And as always, you get a certification, an official certification, a certificate, as it were, that shows that this is the real deal.

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2:35:35 No Agenda Meetups.

2:35:39 That's right, the meetups, the erection connection, as we just heard earlier on the show.

2:35:49 This is where you can find people who listen to the show, even in Ukraine, everywhere around the world.

2:35:54 We are truly worldwide.

2:35:55 It's an amazing community that you are a part of, and you should solidify that relationship

2:36:00 because this connection will give you protection.

2:36:02 The people who meet at the meetups will be your first responders in any emergency.

2:36:06 And sometimes people send in meter reports, and I'd love to play one from the Resist We Much meetup in Los Banos.

2:36:13 this is sir robertson of two sticks at the resist we much meetup honoring armed forces day

2:36:20 sir montauk here enjoying a delicious pizza and excellent conversation

2:36:27 in the morning all right uh we have a written meetup from leiden uh where the folks met in

2:36:37 the netherlands on the 8th of may adam and john 10 producers met in leiden thank you for your

2:36:41 Kurds, Zobim El-Dudirachi,

2:36:43 Black Knight El-Dudirachi, Youp, Andy,

2:36:45 Ruby, Arno, Roland, Sebastian,

2:36:47 Anita, and Pedro.

2:36:49 Shout out to Youp and Andy for coming to their first

2:36:51 Noah Jenner meetup, says Baron Robb.

2:36:53 Next meetup will be in Rotterdam on

2:36:55 June 26 in Café

2:36:57 Hachsebluff,

2:36:58 pending Meve's approval on noahjennermeetups.com.

2:37:02 I'm sure she will approve it. We also have

2:37:03 a meetup taking place today. This is the

2:37:05 big one in Indianapolis, Indiana.

2:37:07 The May the Road

2:37:09 Rise to Meet You meetup. That is

2:37:11 underway as we speak at st jewish brew st joseph's brewery and public house in indianapolis

2:37:16 day maria and sir mark of the greenwood hosting that of course next show day on thursday charlotte's

2:37:21 thirsty third thursday monthly meetup seven o'clock ed's tavern is always in charlotte

2:37:26 north carolina for the rest of this month in may on the 22nd hello frenchies molison gears in france

2:37:33 go look at it on no agenda meetups.com we have a dame over there and she will show you a good time

2:37:39 i mean she has wine she has cheese here's everything that's on the 22nd the 23rd wilmington

2:37:44 delaware los angeles california hickson tennessee franklin tennessee and uh the 24th keyport new

2:37:50 jersey vancouver british columbia on the 24th squim washington on the 25th with mimi attending

2:37:55 and anchorage alaska on may 30th no agenda meetups no agenda meetups.com head over there

2:38:01 and find one near you it's very easy to start one yourself if you can't find anything

2:38:08 It's a great time.

2:38:09 I guarantee you, you will love it.

2:38:10 You will not regret it.

2:38:11 Noagendameetups.com.

2:38:13 It's very simple to start one and always a party.

2:38:35 John's tip of the day is coming up shortly, and we also have some really good end-of-show mixes.

2:38:41 I'm excited to play those for you.

2:38:42 But first, for some reason, for a long time, we've been doing the ISO selection at this part of the show,

2:38:48 and we don't even remember why, but it's always fun.

2:38:51 And I will start since that's how it usually runs.

2:38:54 John never wants to go first.

2:38:55 You never want to go first.

2:38:56 You notice that?

2:38:56 Of course I notice it.

2:38:59 Okay.

2:38:59 Well, I'll go then.

2:39:00 I love your perspective.

2:39:01 You're absolutely right.

2:39:03 A little long.

2:39:05 Here's another one.

2:39:06 We are good to go, buddy.

2:39:07 Oof.

2:39:08 Maybe this one.

2:39:10 That was good.

2:39:11 Okay.

2:39:12 And I think this one's the best.

2:39:14 It was quite impressive.

2:39:15 I like that one.

2:39:17 It was okay.

2:39:18 Uh-huh.

2:39:19 What you got?

2:39:19 Let's start with a douchebag.

2:39:25 God, I'm a douchebag.

2:39:28 Is that from Family Guy?

2:39:31 Yeah.

2:39:34 That was the vaping episode.

2:39:36 I'm a douchebag.

2:39:38 I thought we should just keep that as a regular.

2:39:43 High contender.

2:39:44 Yes.

2:39:45 High contender.

2:39:46 All right.

2:39:47 Let's go with G. Willikers.

2:39:53 G. Willikers.

2:39:55 G. Willikers.

2:39:56 What a great show.

2:39:57 No.

2:39:58 Rejected.

2:39:59 I reject that one out of hand.

2:40:00 Why?

2:40:01 You can do better.

2:40:02 You can do better.

2:40:04 top show wow top that show you chumps yes that's what i'm talking about we have a winner and we

2:40:10 have john's tip of the day green fives for you and me just the tip with jcd and sometimes adam

2:40:21 okay so we get some time to start planting gardens is it now yep we're in april may

2:40:32 Yeah.

2:40:32 So everybody should go out and get a stirrup hoe.

2:40:36 We had those in Amsterdam in the red light district.

2:40:41 Aren't they great?

2:40:42 Yeah, fantastic.

2:40:43 What is a stirrup?

2:40:44 No, I'm not talking about it.

2:40:44 It's also called a, there's another name for these things.

2:40:48 They're called, what's the name?

2:40:52 I don't know.

2:40:53 I'm going to get it.

2:40:55 I'm going to get it.

2:40:55 I don't even know what a stirrup hoe is.

2:40:57 Look it up.

2:40:58 A stirrup hoe is like a hoe.

2:41:00 Yeah.

2:41:01 Only instead of being a flat surface thing, it's got a loop, and it allows you to...

2:41:08 Oh, put your foot in it and jam it in.

2:41:10 No, it's good for...

2:41:12 It is the greatest weeding tool you can imagine.

2:41:16 Oh.

2:41:16 You can...

2:41:17 It just basically pulls the weeds out.

2:41:20 It's also called some other kind of hoe, which is funnier.

2:41:25 I don't want to get the name, so hang on.

2:41:29 Well, we're at the edge of our seats here.

2:41:32 Yeah, these are available at Pastime and all the big hardware stores.

2:41:38 Let me find it here.

2:41:40 Stirrup Ho.

2:41:42 Tally Ho.

2:41:44 Hula Ho.

2:41:45 Stirrup Ho.

2:41:49 Yeah.

2:41:50 Hold on.

2:41:54 I'm holding on.

2:41:56 I'm just sitting here waiting, watching the meters go silent.

2:41:59 I'm sorry, but I closed one of the windows that has it.

2:42:06 It's also called an action hoe.

2:42:09 An action hoe.

2:42:11 Which is really more the Amsterdam.

2:42:14 It's a show title is what that is.

2:42:18 Action hoe.

2:42:19 Action hoe.

2:42:20 Yeah.

2:42:20 And Home Depot has them.

2:42:22 Husky makes a good one, a 54-in-1 wood handle action hoe with grip.

2:42:28 These are just terrific products for gardeners.

2:42:31 I used to have one years ago.

2:42:33 I forgot all about it until Jay and Brennan brought one to the house here.

2:42:38 And they're gardening.

2:42:39 Yeah, they got a big garden in the backyard.

2:42:41 Oh.

2:42:42 And so they're using this thing.

2:42:44 She's all jacked up about the action hoe.

2:42:46 And I said, yeah, well, there's a lot of punchlines there with the word action hoe.

2:42:51 But it's really technically a stirrup hoe

2:42:53 Everyone should get one

2:42:55 They're about 25 bucks max

2:42:56 Go get your action hoe everybody

2:42:59 That's the tip of the day

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2:43:13 Aren't you glad you waited?

2:43:14 Aren't you glad? I'm telling you

2:43:16 Look it up

2:43:18 This show is good to the last drop

2:43:20 how many people listen to the tip of the day oh uh i'll do an analysis

2:43:25 one day ask i bet you about half the half the oh no maybe half no no 20 percent 20 percent you

2:43:34 think we'd fall off that much for tip of the day yeah i think so most podcasts fall off pretty

2:43:42 substantially after a while but there's always that group that just hangs in there all the way

2:43:48 And they're the ones...

2:43:49 No, those are the good guys.

2:43:50 Yeah, of course.

2:43:50 And they learn about all the fun stuff that everybody else misses.

2:43:54 Your loss.

2:43:55 End of show mixes from Just Baker and MVP.

2:43:59 Love those guys.

2:44:01 They're prompting away.

2:44:03 They're doing good things now.

2:44:05 I mean, it gets better every single time.

2:44:07 End of show...

2:44:09 Let's see.

2:44:09 After the show, we have the Millennial Media Offensive coming up

2:44:13 with Hans von Spankowski.

2:44:17 Oh, yeah.

2:44:18 That makes total sense.

2:44:19 Sounds like those guys.

2:44:22 And we will return on Thursday.

2:44:24 We hope you join us.

2:44:25 And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg, Texas.

2:44:30 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

2:44:32 And from Refinery Row, I'm John C. Dvorak.

2:44:35 And please remember us at noagendadonations.com.

2:44:39 Until Thursday, adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey, and such.

2:44:43 Yeah!

2:44:48 Mm, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:44:54 Beijing lights, the great heart glows red.

2:44:57 Trump grins wide, she nods his head.

2:45:00 Fantastic views, better than ever, he said.

2:45:02 While the dragon whispers, Taiwan's the thread.

2:45:05 Pageantry thick as the Beijing smog.

2:45:08 CEOs bow when the cameras are fogged.

2:45:10 No big break through, just theater fog.

2:45:13 But the straight stays open, that's the real log.

2:45:16 they chose what rice wine we choke on the spin legacy media already cashing it in

2:45:24 some of the shadows the deal never shown i ran in the process the virus alone

2:45:31 it's a virus creeping off antarctic boats you are blacked out why the spooks take notes

2:45:37 It's not a small prize in the war powers joke.

2:45:39 It's all connected, man, and no agenda flow.

2:45:42 Donate right now or the signal goes dark.

2:45:45 Independent voice in this corporate arc.

2:45:48 House tied, though the war powers dance.

2:45:50 I ran on life support, another chance.

2:45:53 They keep the forever machine in advance.

2:45:55 While the cruise ship coughs up its deadly romance.

2:45:58 And the CIA direct your steps, coffee in Havana.

2:46:01 Energy collapse, but the real banana is the quiet handshake behind the banana.

2:46:06 A regime change tango in a candlelit dram

2:46:09 On Summit, the shadows, the deal never shown

2:46:12 Fear porn rising while the real seeds are sown

2:46:14 Media spins it pretty weak, cut through the bone

2:46:17 No agenda army, that's the only throne

2:46:20 No name right now, hit the link, make the call

2:46:22 No sponsors, no masters, just truth for a song

2:46:25 Keep the show breathing, keep the matrix small

2:46:28 Or the next Summit script writes us all

2:46:36 We're all gonna die

2:46:49 The fog rolls thick through the silicone trees

2:46:58 In the valley where the air feels thin

2:47:00 John's locking the doors, falling down to his knees

2:47:04 While the typhus is scratching to get in

2:47:06 The screens are all glowing

2:47:08 A ghost like blue

2:47:09 In a house that feels like a cage

2:47:11 The silence is heavy

2:47:13 The shadows are new

2:47:14 In this lonely fevered age

2:47:17 Oh, the distance is a jagged line

2:47:19 Between the fear and the foam

2:47:22 Adam's out chasing a fevered design

2:47:25 While John is dying alone at home

2:47:28 across the sea where the dikes hold fast adam walks through the dutch lowlands looking for

2:47:37 a shadow from a hollow past with the hanta reaching for his hands no comfort in the travel

2:47:43 no peace in the flight just two hearts beating out of time one staring at the ceiling in the

2:47:49 dead of night the other in a cold and rhythmic climb the fever's coming for us all so far apart

2:47:59 so afraid

2:48:01 we're all gonna die

2:48:06 We're all gonna die

2:48:19 Knock by day

2:48:36 May 50, strikes carve Gaza's sky

2:48:39 Women, child, civilian cars

2:48:42 Targeted, the anchors lie

2:48:45 Scholars need me cleansing slow

2:48:46 West Bank march is crushed again

2:48:49 Seven under protest flame

2:48:52 But the camera spins the end

2:48:54 The show ends down

2:48:56 But get more nation, never sleep

2:48:57 Dusting deals and then they swore the cycle never weeps

2:49:00 From the keys lost in 48

2:49:01 To the deals they signed today

2:49:03 Keep the signal clear or the machine will have its way

2:49:06 trump trump and she toast in beijing trade jets for soy and peace house ties the iran vote tight

2:49:17 sent come denies the decease powell's chair goes cold all ghosts line up for the list

2:49:24 are connected in the fog same hand same twisted twist

2:49:29 producers this signals alive because you keep it free no sponsors no agenda

2:49:52 Just the truth you help us see

2:49:55 Hit the notes, any coin, any name

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2:49:59 Knock but dust rising

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2:50:30 Wow, top that show, you chumps.