Kill Switch

0:00 He's full of shit. Larry Blightner,

0:03 Darren O'Neill.

0:05 It's Thursday, 08/06/2026.

0:07 This is your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode eighteen ninety two. This is No Agenda. Yeah. We're broadcasting live from just outside of Chirac right here in FEMA Region number 5. In the morning, everybody, I am Darren O'Neill.

0:23 And from the pretentious Connecticut Shore, this is Larry Blydner keeping commies and creeps at bay with my gleaming scimitar of truth.

0:31 It's Darren and Larry. In the morning.

0:35 At least you've never seen Bernie Sanders outside your door or anything. Right? Well, not yet, but anything can happen. You know that. You could exactly.

0:43 That's why you guys be prepared.

0:45 There's a lot of there's a lot of honk if you love Bernie bumper stickers or crap like that around here. Really? That's a thing? It's kinda you know, he still sustains, doesn't he? You know, the guy's 2,000

0:55 years old and,

0:57 you know, he's still spreading his, his commie lies.

1:00 Do you remember the good old days when it was, oh, he's just that crazy Bernie. He's never commie, it's never gonna do anything. Socialism will never take foot. He's just he's just that one crazy guy that gets elected.

1:14 Oh, yeah. There's been a succession of crazy guys, you know, for a century. Gus Hall, he was the the, every every election he he ran as the the commie candidate. I think he ran, like, nine elections or something.

1:25 There's someone before him. It's not new.

1:28 No. There's Bernie. Nothing new under the sun except they are multiplying.

1:33 They certainly are. Oh my god. Aren't they? It's very scary. And we have a very exciting show today. The Podfather will be joining us. That is cool. That is a rock and groove, baby. He's gonna finally pull our plug. No doubt about it. Hey.

1:48 Hey. It's his show, man. You know? You're just

1:52 I get it. It's like we know we know we're not Adam, we're not John, boost, and donate. And if you want media deconstruction,

1:59 we are doing

2:01 the best we can and having fun with it. I know you We sure are. You personally,

2:05 you like to look for the negative comments. And, I mean, I do. Makes it even more fun.

2:12 And there's always some to reward me. This is true. And you know, who's probably got a lot of negative comments going in their timeline is up. Who are Anthony Fauci? You know? Oh, man. He's he's at an avalanche of negative con comments. Absolutely.

2:25 Yeah. Yeah. I saw one video where I think it was a dude

2:29 from TMZ,

2:31 which would make sense because you don't expect anybody

2:34 in the normal mainstream media to dare be out in front of Anthony Fauci's house and be like, hey. So, what about that taking the, fifth a 111 times?

2:44 Mhmm.

2:45 But, of course, Fauci didn't answer that guy either. But but Harvey Levin gave a glowing endorsement

2:52 on his show like the day of or the day after. Just him, not even with his sidekick,

2:58 telling what a great guy he is and how wrong everyone is and we should revere him and so on and so forth. Even went back to the, you know, the the first time Fauci's had popped up like a whack a mole during the AIDS crisis. And I mean,

3:10 were guys that really were calling for his beheading back then. One of the most popular or vocal of them was a guy named Larry Kramer.

3:18 He was a very very outspoken

3:20 gay activist, and man, he he just went for Fauci's lungs. So I don't what Harvey's thinking, but, you know, it's his show and his right to speak. You must protect doctor Fauci at all At

3:31 all costs.

3:32 Unless, of course, you are Aaron Rogers.

3:35 I'm gonna plead the fifth. Okay.

3:38 Okay.

3:41 Like that

3:44 absolute coward, Tony Fast. Absolute

3:47 coward.

3:48 Are you kidding me? Yeah. 111 times. You got a pardon and you're in front of you and you pleaded over a 100 times Yeah. At the White House? What are you scared of, Tony? Yeah. I thought you were the science. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you were I am science. And you get up there and you can't answer a question? Yeah. What are we doing? And how much time did the network spend to that? How much time did they spend on my responses every week, on my vaccination status,

4:10 on Taylor and Travis's wedding?

4:13 Yeah. Does that bother you? No. It's all important, very important news for the

4:18 for the m five m. And he's got a point. I mean, when

4:21 it was all going on, like, oh, can all of these sports I mean, I think the NASCAR guys had to, you know, get jabbed. They're in a car by themselves with a helmet on. I mean, I don't know. Oh, yeah. And and what what Aaron did is that's that takes media construction to another level, which is as it happens. I mean, the guy with the worst job in the world at that moment was Pat McAfee. I mean, what must he have been thinking? Well

4:46 I mean, the fact is

4:49 this is

4:50 the fallout

4:51 because

4:53 of Anthony Fauci being not very smart

4:57 in writing all of these things

4:59 onto a government servant. I heard from a rob the constitutional lawyer. He's like, the guy has to be an idiot because we everybody knows. Of

5:07 course. It's government property. Right.

5:09 It's all

5:11 that can be FOIA ed. Even, you know, my wife works for the, you know, little village, and it's like anything

5:17 we do internally, we all know if there's a FOIA, this is all going out. So you have to be careful about what you say, Anthony.

5:24 I read something today that they're looking for his text. That might fit into this other chapter.

5:30 Yeah. Well, they I heard they got his cell phone, so that would although I don't think you need the cell phone to get the text, although I guess

5:38 it might, speed that up.

5:41 Yeah.

5:42 And that's always a question when it comes to

5:45 how these

5:47 politicians

5:49 communicate

5:50 because if it's anything official,

5:53 it's supposed to be in a way

5:55 that will be

5:57 down in the annals of history where people you're not supposed to use, like, Hillary, you know, your own email server and Sure.

6:05 Run things that way. So it's interesting to see, you know, who's smart enough or who's not.

6:11 I think if you want a good a good financial play would be to invest in

6:16 a a flock of carrier pigeons at this point because he might have some privacy. And they were I guess they worked pretty good in their day.

6:23 They got back and forth somehow. Yes.

6:26 Greg Jarrett, of course, on Fox is talking about the diary here. See if charges can be brought. But look, senator Paul has long argued.

6:35 Fauci lied and covered up COVID's origins,

6:39 and his diary is self incriminating.

6:42 Publicly, Fauci insisted COVID

6:45 came from a natural source, but you read his diary and privately he is conceding

6:51 It likely came from the very lab that he had funded.

6:56 Which is the thing? It's he lied. It's not that he was an idiot. It's not that he made mistakes. Oh, no. No.

7:03 It's because of the lies, and, that's exactly what,

7:07 we have Rand Paul here. Rand Paul calling for a vote tomorrow on whether And, really, I love the music underneath all this stuff. That's so great. You you gotta keep because otherwise, Larry, the kids aren't gonna listen to a whole thirty eight seconds of news. Yeah.

7:21 If it doesn't have a techno beat behind it. Mhmm. Behold, doctor Anthony Fauci in contempt of congress after Fauci pleaded the fifth 111

7:30 times during his testimony about the COVID nineteen pandemic last week.

7:35 Can you explain to the committee why you chose to fund this dangerous research in China?

7:41 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer

7:46 based upon my rights under the fifth amendment of the constitution. What day of the week is it today? I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment of the constitution.

7:57 If approved, the resolution would call on the DOJ to pursue criminal charges against Fauci.

8:02 More Yeah. And that'll be the Yeah.

8:05 Next question. Whether they will have any charge. It's gonna be tough.

8:09 You know, it's a a thought flashed through my mind.

8:13 A couple of nights ago for some unknown reason, I was looking at, that movie, The Irishman,

8:19 and there's a scene in there where

8:23 some mobster sitting on a witness stand

8:25 and the and that that movie was made in 2018

8:29 and the attorneys holds up his his pen and says, what color is my pen? The guy says, I I respectfully decline. So so I kinda wonder, you know, if, if, Josh Hawley was, viewed that movie recently as well. Probably life imitating art, art imitating life, that whole Yeah. Round and round. And it's interesting to see

8:51 who is jumping in on this, who is avoiding it. Like you said, most of the mainstream media,

8:57 a lot of liberal talking heads

9:00 are, oh, we gotta back doctor Fauci. He just he was doing what he thought was right. They do. Oh, of course. Even though the admission

9:09 in his diary would tell you otherwise?

9:13 Yes.

9:13 But even Joe Rogan taken a victory lap on Fauci. Do hear this one? Oh, really? We are right now in the middle of the Fauci hearings. So Yes. We are. He is now

9:24 testifying in front of congress and pleading the fifth about everything, including the color of his tie. It's very weird to watch.

9:31 It's

9:32 in in one way, it's like,

9:34 I told you to a lot of my liberal friends that wanted to pretend that he was a great guy and that he wasn't doing anything wrong. And now that all these emails have gotten out where it shows that he knew

9:45 that the fatality rate was much lower than they were saying. He knew that it wasn't dangerous for children, that they didn't need vaccines.

9:52 He knew that the social distancing thing was all nonsense,

9:57 and he's got a blanket pardon for ten years. And the thing is, it's like

10:01 these people get money for research, and that's what they do. They do research. So if you get money and you get grants for research, well, you're gonna go do research.

10:10 And if your research is gain of function research that makes viruses

10:14 more infectious to human beings.

10:17 And, you know, you have to do it because that's your job. That's what you do. That's what you studied. That's what you went to school for. Like, what a crazy

10:24 fucking thing we're doing. Yeah.

10:26 I don't know that anywhere on Fauci's job description it stated, do gain of function research.

10:32 Somehow I think that was, determined by a cabal of similar creeps to himself. Just a guess. Well, because it's very hard

10:41 not to imagine a world where that is used

10:45 for a nefarious

10:47 reason

10:48 because you could sell it to the average citizen. You can sell this as,

10:54 well, we're trying to do this so we can then be ahead of something like this that would happen so we would know how to counteract it. But

11:03 But that's that's it's patent bullcrap. I mean, it's it's clearly that that phrase is just camouflage for a bioweapon. Yes. So it is. You know, please. But this is how it's being sold, which is why people need to understand

11:15 what Of course. Words mean, why people are telling you certain things. Yes. And as I always say, not some people are stupid. Most are stupid.

11:24 Because they've checked out.

11:27 They don't pay attention.

11:29 The news I mean, it was bad enough

11:32 when they were going to John Stewart for their news. Now people are going to TikTok.

11:39 It's

11:40 nearly

11:41 impossible to believe. I put TikTok on the same, plane as, as Stewart. Yeah. If they're well, they're kind of equaling out. Yeah. Yeah. Because Stewart and I saw it, and I think we might even have the clip. It probably won't. We got lots of clips. Thanks to everybody for bringing those into us, like, Steve Jones, the clip collector, and

12:03 it is kind of interesting when you see, like, John Stewart going up against

12:08 Fetterman and just being it's all

12:12 just politics. It it has nothing to do with

12:16 being human. It has nothing to do with logic and understanding, and it's getting

12:22 kind of sad. What's

12:24 with the human? We know the reptiles. Alex Jones told mean, David Ike told us. Come on. They're probably correct. And,

12:31 one more big

12:33 reaction to the Fauci thing. This one from

12:36 a guy that you and I have played a bunch over on Planet Rage. You didn't hear as much around No Agenda yet, but Stephen A. Smith who has been mentioned

12:45 is a possible Democrat presidential

12:48 candidate, not that I believe he

12:51 has any chance in hell, but,

12:54 I I think he would do better than a lot of them. I mean, I would take them personally before

13:00 Pritzker or,

13:02 you know, your California governor Newsom or

13:06 Kamala, any of those.

13:08 And,

13:10 this was his take on the Fauci thing. Do I think that he should be embarrassed

13:15 for the self adulation that he engaged in? You're damn right I do.

13:20 Because some of the things that he was telling us to do was inconsistent

13:24 with science, But he was telling us it was science that led to him making the decisions that he made.

13:29 Masking, six feet distancing,

13:32 the closing of businesses,

13:36 forcing

13:37 businesses

13:38 to push those mandates upon people like me and others.

13:42 Because I took the vaccine

13:44 and I took a booster

13:47 and I wore a mask

13:50 and we were told, hey, you ain't gonna get covid if you do that. And I got covid and damn it, it almost killed me.

13:57 Going into 2022, I'm in the hospital ninety minutes before the ball is about to drop and the doctor says,

14:04 we've been at this for three plus weeks.

14:08 You got double pneumonia. You look really bad.

14:14 If this antibiotic

14:16 and this steroid

14:18 does not work,

14:21 mister Smith, I'm sorry. We're gonna have to call your family.

14:25 Looks that bad,

14:26 but we should know in three hours. And through the grace of God, three hours later, I felt better after they gave me

14:32 that steroid

14:34 and that antibiotic.

14:37 Those were the longest three hours of my life because I thought it was over.

14:44 And I remember I had done I had done exactly what doctor Anthony Fauci was imploring us all to do.

14:50 I will say Stephen a Smith is right up there with Glenn Beck using silence

14:56 You for know, yeah. He's I mean, I like what he says, but his style always grates on me, and it's it's it's a simple it could be summarized

15:04 with this. I'm gonna scream. I'm gonna whisper. I'm gonna scream. I'm gonna whisper. Yeah. Come on, man. You're not running a revival meeting. There's a goddamn microphone at your lips. Okay? And I think it functions. You don't have to scream, Stevie. Thank you. But it's the same reason people put music behind the clips. It's an engagement

15:24 tactic, and I think it works Not to me. Not to me. I hear music. Either one works for me. But I take it both for him. Yeah.

15:31 But the

15:33 message he was bringing there is why this should not be

15:37 a political topic.

15:40 This should be people on both sides being very upset that the guy

15:45 that people were saying was the science that was the number one resource to go to when other doctors who had degrees,

15:54 who were studying this were like, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, and then were shut down

16:00 because doctor Fauci disagreed while he was also

16:04 making money hand over fist. It would have seemed according to the news reports having his minions go out and like, hey. Shouldn't you give this award to doctor Fauci? He needs the money.

16:17 You know, know, Fauci,

16:18 he deserves all the heat that he's gotten and more. And now I I understand there's three states about to level, charges at him, which may may not may may not conflict

16:29 with the federal pardon

16:31 that Joey provided him. But let's not forget who Joey

16:36 was working for.

16:38 Fauci, Walensky, mean, there were there were hundreds, dozens certainly at the top and hundreds more that all circled the wagons

16:45 and blasted out the same lives and mandates.

16:48 So I don't, you know, I I like seeing him being grilled

16:52 by, by Hawley and and, the other guy, but there's there should be dozens of people in that senatorial chamber being cooked. Why aren't there?

17:01 It's a good question. I mean, because most of it is politics,

17:04 most of it is they don't want to

17:07 go after their own. I mean, this is

17:10 fair you know, it's kind of understandable being that

17:13 we before the Donald Trump thing, we had never seen the massive amount of lawfare

17:20 going against people that work

17:22 for and in the federal government.

17:25 But but I think that the true answer to this is simply the, unbreakable alliance

17:30 between the billions, trillions

17:32 of big pharma

17:34 and the deep state.

17:36 They function as one. They're buddies, you know. So that that's that's what the the power structure is,

17:41 really. You know, look at what was Bobby the k saying, you know, for months before he took office. I'm gonna stop television advertising for pharmaceuticals. What happened what happened to that? He doesn't even mention that anymore.

17:53 You know? No. And they're still running them nonstop.

17:56 Yes. Of course.

17:58 Drugs.

17:59 Drugs. Ask your doctor. Not well, your doctor knows best. He'll know what drug to put you in, which when we were growing up, I know we're not, you know, a 150 years old or anything, but when we were growing up, there were no massive

18:12 amounts of drug ads on television.

18:14 There were no no. No. They're not massive. The only there were no prescription drugs period. The only thing you could see was was Excedrin and Addison and bear aspirin and maybe a cough medicine. You know, get that Robitussens.

18:25 And that was it. The prescription, it was I think it banned until sometime in the nineteen eighties and the only other place where they they do this crap is in New Zealand. The rest of the entire globe bans pharmaceutical ads on television.

18:37 Well, yeah, because it elevates

18:39 the drug companies

18:42 above the medical professional

18:45 Of course. Well, the doctors have become our in boys. Yes. Not doctors anymore. You're I told you when the last time I went to the cardiologist, your provider, your medical provider will be with you.

18:56 So Like, no. That's not the way it works. It it is it is

19:00 it's unbelievable

19:02 when the drugs and then you've got, like, usually sixty to ninety seconds of this is the side effects that might happen, including death on most of them. Oh, yeah. Love those side effects, man. Exploding kidneys,

19:13 loss of sight. It's it's like, wow. But people still yeah. Give me that stuff. I'll take that. Ask your doctor about. I mean, no. Tell your let your doctor

19:22 figure out what you have and then figure out the best treatment. You should never

19:27 be walking into a doctor's office saying, hey. I heard about this drug. Can I get they do? Of course, they're doing that. Yeah. Especially those, those Ozempic stuff.

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22:05 Wow. You you It had to happen, didn't it? Oh, no. It's a producer mode that should have been quicker. That should have been in and out in, like, forty five seconds, but I know people like the, doctor Fauci,

22:15 voice. And, I mean, it's one of those things that could go viral.

22:19 Who knows?

22:20 It had to be said though.

22:22 He's not well, he might need a podcast if he has to have more, bills for all of his lawyers.

22:28 Yeah. It's gonna add up for him. You you know, he's he's only I mean, he's not Musk. He can't hang forever and if this if this, these three states, start to bedevil him,

22:38 you're gonna see some GoFundMe's for Who yeah. Who's paying for his lawyers now? That is the and he had like a whole team of them. So who Six of them. Six of them. And one got bounced. That was a very funny scene. Yeah. Because you can't take the fifth and then have somebody else

22:53 trying to

22:55 trying to back you up.

22:57 But,

22:58 you know, this whole thing comes down again. We were all here for

23:02 the vaccine, and we had the audio on. No Agenda of all the people. Like, I'm not going to take a Donald Trump vaccine, but that changed magically then. Yeah.

23:13 Once it became the Biden administration,

23:15 and you brought on the

23:18 last show

23:19 a clip from this RFK

23:21 with Dana Bash, and this went on

23:23 much longer. We have an extended clip of things that we didn't even hear, which I thought was,

23:29 was quite interesting.

23:31 But Yeah. Of saying were Yes. I part of the problem. No. I wasn't part the problem. There was absolute

23:38 press malpractice.

23:40 You weren't allowing your Mister secretary your job job is a fierce skepticism

23:45 Okay. Toward authority.

23:47 And you weren't doing that. You were beating on people

23:50 who were dissenting.

23:51 No. Okay. Are you gonna you wanna sit here and attack me, or do you wanna have conversations

23:56 about Trump? Attacking me. I'm not attacking you. I'm ask I like that we have

24:01 a CNN

24:03 anchor

24:05 speaking to

24:07 somebody like this like they're in kindergarten.

24:11 It's just

24:13 beyond the pale, really.

24:15 You

24:16 know, this is like, I'm not gonna sit here. It's it's very strange.

24:20 Yeah. Again,

24:22 journalists,

24:25 I don't know if they have

24:27 journalisming

24:28 classes anymore

24:30 Because too many places. A lot of colleges have canceled it because they know it's a dying art.

24:35 It is. I guess, you know, you can't make much money because now AI is just gonna take the a few little blurbs from

24:43 your favorite social media and then create a story that doesn't have any

24:47 real proof behind it.

24:49 Mhmm. But I remember taking a simple journalism

24:52 class back in the day,

24:55 and it was who, why, what, where, and how.

24:59 Those were the five things that had to be in every story and I guess if you go and

25:06 try to break down the stories you're seeing today whether you're listening to them or reading them, I bet you most are missing multiple parts of that equation.

25:18 Look, most true. Or do you wanna have a conversation? You're still not here. You're attacking me. I'm not attacking you. I'm asking questions about how to present the next I'm not attacking you. I'm just asking questions. I'm just asking questions, Larry.

25:31 But they're I mean, they're very pointed and rude questions. I'm just asking questions.

25:35 Like, why are you a crook? You know? I'm just asking questions.

25:39 Why are you being dishonest? I'm just asking questions.

25:43 Question and I'll tell you. That's what I'm trying to do. But I also don't

25:48 want to use this

25:49 interview to allow you to say things that aren't entirely true. You're talking about therapeutics. Fine. It is also factually true that the COVID vaccine

25:59 worked.

26:00 Factually true. Woah.

26:04 Let's back that up a second. Yeah. Worked for whom?

26:08 Wow.

26:08 Wow. She should talk to Stephen a Smith. He he got vaxxed. He got boosted. He almost croaked. Yeah. Worked great. Worked perfect. No. Didn't hurt anybody either. There were no side effects at all. So let's let's there's only two answers to this question, Darren. She's either a complete imbecile

26:24 or she's getting some piles of scrilla

26:27 from, from the pharmaceutical people to say this. Really? I'm guessing the pharmaceutical people do put some money towards advertising on CNN. They certainly do. We know what CNN does, but I mean, maybe even personally she's getting a pipe. I mean, it's it's it's that's on to make that kind of statement

26:43 in these times after all that's happened is mind blowing. It really is.

26:48 Yes. There was another story that was breaking breaking this week that

26:52 there were no good clips on,

26:55 but there was an initiative

26:58 called

26:59 the

27:00 Tarbell

27:01 fellowship. Tarbell. Tarbell fellowship,

27:04 which has nothing to do with the

27:07 Fauci or the vaccine,

27:10 but it is about AI

27:12 and

27:13 paying people to cover stories

27:16 for AI. So as we move on over the next

27:19 week or two, this may more and more come out, but it seems

27:23 that there is a third party

27:25 paying

27:26 the people to write about AI,

27:29 which is then being published

27:31 in places like, well, you know, The New York Times or CNN or all of these Yep. Outlets. So, you know, you can trust the reporting

27:39 Trust the science. When the money is coming from,

27:43 you know, a third party that maybe

27:45 maybe has some skin in the game and maybe wants to push you in one direction or not.

27:51 Yeah. But RFK Ghost. Yeah. He and Dana Bash continued

27:56 to argue,

27:58 which is,

27:59 and rightfully so once she just dropped that bombshell.

28:02 I

28:04 think that what I have talked to scientists and doctors Doctor. About scientists, can you look can you show me one study? Yes, I can. That shows that I can. Children were protected by the COVID vaccine. I can tell you that That there vaccine are did more good than harm to children. Can you show me one study that shows that? I can tell you that when it comes to the vaccine,

28:25 there have been studies that show that because of vaccine disinformation,

28:31 there could have been one hundred thousand to two hundred thousand lives in The U. S. Saved. But be because people didn't get the vaccine. That's why. I'm not saying that it entire You are saying

28:42 let You me are saying something that you cannot show me. Okay. A single study is am not saying nonsense.

28:48 You are talking like That's

28:51 there's an ISO. I am not saying nonsense.

28:54 Well, he asked very specifically if he she could name

28:59 a study that showed

29:01 that the COVID vaccine did not do more harm than good to children.

29:06 I'll bet you she could show such a study, and it would be totally bogus, and Bobby could shoot out the guts of it in two seconds. Well, yeah, but she didn't. I mean, that's the beauty. She's like, yes. I can't. Something. There's I mean, there was when it was in progress. They were oh, there was all kinds of bogus information. They were floating in front of people's faces, and it was it was lies. But But she said she could do it right there and then didn't. When he's like, okay. What is it? She's a bigger coward than Fauci. Oh, yeah. Okay. A single I am not saying nonsense.

29:34 I am talking what Excuse told

29:37 you. Stop. That's the way to put that with I'm not talking nonsense. Excuse

29:41 me. Yes. Just again,

29:44 this is somebody that's supposed to be

29:47 covering the news in a serious manner.

29:51 No.

29:52 I am not saying nonsense.

29:53 I am You're talking what Excuse me. Told you. Excuse me. Let me Sign me the study.

30:00 No, what studies are you talking about? You're talking about studies that actually don't exist.

30:05 I want to talk about Cite me the study that you're talking about. I am not say you see the studies. Cite me the study.

30:12 This is not productive. I am not here to defend all of the Let me let me finish. Nonsense. Let me make the assertions you can't support. Yeah.

30:20 I'm not here to support what I'm saying. It's like, but you're the one saying it, madam. She's

30:25 the one that brought it up.

30:27 Yeah. He's the guest on her show. She's being argumentative,

30:30 and he's asking her for proof. And she says, I can give you proof. And you're like, okay. And then it's like, well, I mean, we're not right now. I can't give you any proof. But like so many of these people, it it comes from their incredible

30:41 ego that they have. Let's let's let's just let's look at who who the participants are here. Dana Bash is a professional

30:48 teleprompter reader. That's what she does.

30:51 Bobby the k is a very very top flight successful

30:56 litigator.

30:57 K? You really don't wanna get in an argument with that guy unless your guns are properly loaded and hers were not. And she should have known that going into that interview. You know, you're not gonna win with him unless you're really really set set to go and you're and you're good with your with your verbiage.

31:12 So she got her ass kicked. Sorry.

31:14 It is a completely different skill set being able to Yeah. And there's a lot of really smart people who given the time could maybe come up with a

31:24 coherent argument.

31:26 But

31:27 there are other ones like Marco Rubio seems to be, and J. D. Vance to a little lesser degree,

31:33 quick with the answers and

31:35 able to back it up, which is why those interviews are always fun to watch as well.

31:40 Have you noticed one guy that hasn't appeared anywhere at all

31:45 recently? Albert Albert Burr,

31:48 Pfizer.

31:49 He's not the document. He's quiet. Nothing.

31:52 Yeah.

31:54 What's that? Why would that be?

31:56 You'd never know. Where whatever happened to Vivek? Alright. He's in Ohio. Right? He's in Ohio. That's a forbidden zone. And this is the, ending of that little, three part here.

32:07 Let me just say, for the record, that I am not saying that the entire way that the COVID,

32:12 reaction

32:13 was accurate. It was a scary time, and people made mistakes. Absolutely not good. People.

32:20 Why are you saying that? Because that was the job of CNN.

32:24 Okay. Was to put the spyrons up about how many people are We were trying to be Yeah.

32:30 He's not wrong.

32:31 He's telling the truth.

32:33 To be fair, it wasn't just CNN. It was Fox and Everybody. ABC. I mean, I don't think there was one

32:41 news organization on television

32:44 No. That wasn't playing the Johns Hopkins Hopkins numbers and reporting on them like every five minutes. Oh, more people are dying.

32:51 Yeah.

32:53 So it wasn't just CNN.

32:55 The funny thing is those Johns Hopkins numbers

32:58 at the end of the movie,

33:01 revealed the truth

33:02 because

33:03 America with a mere three sixty

33:06 million people

33:08 had more than twice the number of deaths of any other nation on earth including India, China, know. So hey, what went wrong in America? Something

33:16 did.

33:18 Yeah. At that point, they stopped talking about Johns Hopkins.

33:21 It was

33:23 mishandled a little bit, you think?

33:25 Yeah. Well, it's also what happens when

33:28 you take the medical

33:31 care of your citizens

33:34 and politicize it. Politicizing that kind of thing

33:38 is not going to help.

33:40 It just simply isn't. I mean, being honest and transparent would be what would help,

33:45 but when

33:46 and it started with Donald Trump. People like, oh, these guys never say anything bad about the Republicans. Well,

33:52 Donald Trump really, really, really wanted the win of

33:56 having the vaccine,

33:58 and he made it happen. But the vaccine was not perfect. But it's it's hilarious that the one thing they could have maybe got Trump on, like, oh, no. The I'm really surprised the Democrats didn't go with vaccine was dangerous. See, Donald Trump did it because they tried to take credit for it first.

34:15 Yeah. But then they'd all be wrong. So they can't do that because they were behind the vaccines and the and the and the masking and the the closures

34:23 of the world, you know, the shutdowns.

34:27 But the the fascinating thing about that is it's the power of it's politicization, politicization but but it's it's also the power of the of

34:34 those pharmaceutical companies because

34:36 remember, Trump came up with his Operation Warp Speed, right? And then all reports claim

34:43 that Borla and his buddy over to Moderna,

34:46 they intentionally withheld releasing

34:49 the until

34:50 Joey was elected president. And that that very likely was a major contributor

34:56 to to Trump's loss. So the power those guys wield, that even I think that in some way transcended politics because

35:03 it was all sub rosa. You know? Nobody nobody ever said that at the time. It just kind of happened.

35:09 Very scary.

35:10 Yeah. Donald Trump got him a bunch of money, and then they're like, well, we still want the other guy. We want the other guys. We're gonna hold his back. Yeah. And and knowing that what they know that it would cure nothing and protect no one, it's not like they killed any more people,

35:23 really.

35:24 You know? It's going to be a long time before if anybody ever does get to

35:30 the

35:31 accurate data on what is and what is not the fault of

35:36 the vaccine, and it's hard because including people like doctor Fauci

35:42 with his problems

35:45 that he had, we covered that on the last show as well, didn't report it to VARs.

35:50 And here's a here's actually, we have a Glenn Beck clip on that. You can never prove causation,

35:56 but the whole, you know, the the the whole purpose is the whole system is based upon people being honest

36:04 about reporting all of the injuries that happen after vaccine

36:09 after vaccine.

36:10 And then, you know, you do a cluster analysis, and you say, hey.

36:15 We're seeing elevated levels of this, that, and the other. If you don't report it,

36:20 nobody can make those kind of analysis, and he did not report his. He didn't report it to the VAERS system.

36:26 He didn't tell the public.

36:29 And, you know, if so, anyway, that was that that's really He's not that's not He's

36:35 a guy who claims to be science itself, but is rejecting the scientific method on being able to find out if something is safe or not. Right.

36:43 Because the VAERS database was about

36:46 not proving anything,

36:49 but tracking as much evidence as possible. So if he believed in that,

36:54 doctor Fauci,

36:55 and he ended up getting a pulmonary infarction

36:58 himself but not

37:00 reporting that, the question then has to be again, why? Do you not believe

37:05 that the system works, or is this all just a scam?

37:09 Well, it is all a scam. And and if you think about it, overwhelmingly,

37:14 the ardent support for all of that crap for, the vaccines

37:18 and the mandates and the shutdowns, everything was very much from the left, Joey and company. Right? They were the ones.

37:25 And let's look what's the first thing the left always does? They screw around with the vocabulary.

37:30 They The CDC actually went in there and revised the definition of the word vaccine so it would conform to the garbage

37:38 that they were injecting into people.

37:41 And it's not a vaccine at all. If you think about it, I mean, it should have been called what it was, experimental gene therapy, but that never got any traction.

37:48 But things like polio, tetanus, smallpox, yeah, those were vaccines.

37:53 Know, people got them and they didn't get to get those illnesses. This was complete crap, but they still called it. And they still do. And it's what's really sad is guys like Bobby Lecay and other right wingers

38:03 still refer to it as vaxx. It's it's you know what it's exactly like?

38:07 They're not illegal aliens. They're migrants.

38:11 Right. It's really kind of an immunotherapy

38:13 more than a

38:15 you know, maybe it's it's like taking zinc, you know, before you hop on an airplane in the hopes that'll help you Well, don't know. Nobody

38:23 Nobody I ever got a turbo cancer from zinc that I know. Not that we know of. I wouldn't put it in the class with zinc. I thought this was interesting as well because people in the media mainly want to make RFK Jr. Out to be

38:35 a complete

38:37 vaccine skeptic,

38:38 a complete anti vaccine guy.

38:41 Here he is, talking about,

38:44 the measles vaccine. One that,

38:46 you know, a vaccine that is actually a vaccine.

38:49 RFK junior is now urging parents to get their children vaccinated against measles. He made that statement in an interview on CNN State of the Union with Dana Bash.

38:59 The comments come after criticism over his response to recent outbreaks,

39:03 including a Texas outbreak that grew to nearly eight hundred cases and killed two children.

39:09 Pennsylvania has reported more than one hundred and sixty seven confirmed measles cases as The US faces its number of measles infection in thirty five years.

39:19 A measles vaccine is effective.

39:21 It

39:22 stops measles in about ninety seven percent of the cases, but people should get vaccinated.

39:28 Yeah, officials say the most infections involve people who are unvaccinated

39:32 or whose vaccination status is unknown.

39:35 Experts warn outbreaks can continue in areas where vaccination rates fall below ninety five percent.

39:42 Well, it's interesting if they're like, oh, or ones that vaccination rates are unknown. Well, they could be vaccinated.

39:47 So,

39:48 I mean, you don't you can't really put data on somebody if it's an

39:52 unknown. You can't use that as proof

39:55 if it's unknown.

39:57 I wanna hear that again.

39:58 Yeah. Officials say the most infections involve people who are unvaccinated

40:02 or whose vaccination status is unknown.

40:05 What is no.

40:07 It can't be.

40:09 The unknown thing doesn't add to anything.

40:12 But

40:13 that's okay. You don't really expect the

40:17 the news media to actually know. But that is a true vaccine, ninety seven or so percent effective

40:23 in preventing

40:24 something, which,

40:27 for everybody around remembers that that's the bill of goods we were sold on the COVID vaccine.

40:33 It was a 100% safe and effective. Oh, you weren't gonna get it. You weren't gonna be you weren't even gonna be able to transmit it if you had the vaccine.

40:40 Yeah. But remember how they started to dial it back? It was like, it's it's ninety five. Perla, I remember ninety five percent effective.

40:47 It's ninety eight, 90 ninety ninety three, 85,

40:51 73.

40:52 And then when they got down around in the mid sixties, they just dropped it. Like, and now it's like, now we sound stupid. So forget that. They went away with the percentages. It was really funny to listen to and watch.

41:02 Well, it's funny

41:04 going back,

41:05 and I think

41:06 the clip was on No Agenda. She every never miss an episode of Howie Mandel

41:12 arguing

41:13 that they they never said it was a 100% and never that it was it's gonna

41:18 like, yeah, they did.

41:20 Yeah. But people remember different things and people are confused because they don't know

41:27 exactly where to get their information. I thought this was an interesting clip from

41:33 Big Bill O'Reilly. I mean, he's been he like, fifty years in journalism.

41:38 And I thought this made a really interesting point on the state of where news is today.

41:44 And I see a a very big sampling from around the world

41:48 of what people are interested in.

41:52 And one thing that has risen dramatically

41:55 this year,

41:58 is confusion.

42:01 So many human beings, Americans and everybody else, they don't

42:06 know or understand

42:09 what is happening.

42:12 And therefore,

42:13 they are susceptible

42:15 to crazy stuff.

42:17 Alright?

42:18 Because they don't really know the basis,

42:22 of

42:23 how President Trump, for example, makes a decision.

42:27 Or,

42:28 why trends

42:29 are happening in our society,

42:33 or AI,

42:35 or social media, what are the implications?

42:38 They're confused. And I'm not saying this to be super silliest word of the day.

42:44 I'm saying it because it's true.

42:46 And

42:47 it's my job here at the No Spin News

42:50 to clarify.

42:52 This is what our job is, to clarify, not to root,

42:56 not to, you know, push an ideology.

42:59 We don't do that. And some people get mad, some people won't even watch they wanna hear,

43:04 Republicans are good or Democrats are good. Yeah, that's what they wanna hear. Okay, I got it. Now what do we do here?

43:13 Clarity is what we shoot for. And is he right a 100% of the time, or does he always keep his bias out? No. But this is what No. But but he he bloviates a 100% of the time. Yes. That he that he does. Dude, he's Irish like you and me. This is why No. But I'm not a bloviator. I mean, he's he's a pain in the ass, really. That guy's like Oh, come on. You've been known to bloviate a time or two. I never bloviate. I never bloviate. Lester? I'm accused of many, many, many things, many crimes, guilty of most. Bloviation, not one of them. But it's true that people are

43:42 completely

43:43 unaware of the world around them, how to get valid information, which is why, you know, we highly recommend the No Agenda show. Yes.

43:52 Because that is part of the goal, which is to go, hey, here's what the news media is doing

43:58 and try to put this in a way

44:01 that people can understand and tell them, well, this is why maybe

44:05 this source is

44:08 being a little

44:09 less than honest. And a lot of what you're seeing now in the news is

44:14 is comedy related, and I think it's funny. A lot of people are like, they kept making fun of Bernie Sanders. It's like, well,

44:20 there's a good reason, and even, Bill O'Reilly got in on it as long as we had that bill. It's double up. It's not about a shock. I know. You like it. I'm gonna get you nice and in in the right mood. Yeah. I'm gonna go make a sandwich. Okay? That's what Sanders

44:33 wants.

44:34 Alright? It's about the government telling

44:38 the children

44:39 what to think,

44:41 how to behave,

44:43 circumventing

44:44 the traditional parenting.

44:46 Because the communists know

44:49 that out in the heartland,

44:51 those people are never going to buy into the communist movement ever.

44:56 Get the kids.

44:59 And it's happened in colleges,

45:01 American colleges, very fine institutions

45:04 have collapsed

45:06 under the weight

45:08 of progressive politics.

45:10 So don't say it's not possible. Bernie Sanders has gotta be the happiest guy in the country.

45:17 The discussion was that Sanders and Mandame in New York are demanding

45:22 universal

45:23 child care.

45:25 But it's not really child care.

45:29 Not.

45:30 And it it would be 10% of the New York City budgets, they can never pay for it. It's getting control

45:38 of the children

45:39 in a setting where they can be indoctrinated.

45:43 And that happens in every communist country from Vietnam

45:47 to The Soviet Union to

45:50 the kids.

45:52 And that's what Bernie Sanders and Mamdani in New York City are desperately

45:58 trying to do.

45:59 Do you know that?

46:02 Media will never report it. That's exactly

46:04 what has happened.

46:06 Do you disagree with that? Well, I can say that's a blinding glimpse of the obvious, and it's been going on for about seventy years. It was happening way before ma'am Danny. Right? What what is You know? What is this boomer slop you guys are playing? What are you doing? What is this? What is going on here?

46:25 Bill O'Reilly?

46:26 Does anyone watch

46:28 that guy anymore? Please.

46:30 You see, I'm I'm being I'm being pummeled by by this bloviating

46:34 boombo. I'm telling you. I have learned I mean, I under there were times that JCD

46:41 would know how to trigger you and there were times you would know how to trigger JCD. That's the fun of the show, isn't it? Well, I'm triggered for sure. Me too. I'm I'm sitting here, I'm like, oh, I gotta jump in with these guys now because this is going off the rails.

46:56 Can I just thank can I just thank you both

46:58 so much for jumping in, man? This has been

47:02 so good for me. And,

47:05 of course, I've listened to you. Mimi has not listened at all. Uh-oh.

47:09 She's just been cleaning up cleaning up the house. She's told me stories, man. She's told me stories.

47:17 But you I mean, you stepped into this and just took it over and we're just just driving the bus.

47:24 I'm so appreciative of that. This is really

47:27 and by the way, hello, trolls.

47:31 Stupid trolls. Good to see y'all.

47:33 I only have one comment on on everything you've been doing.

47:38 Only one.

47:39 And it's Darren, it's you. Uh-oh. I should run.

47:43 When you unite somebody,

47:46 you have to hit them with the swords. You know, you have to hit them. You gotta hit them. You gotta hit them. You gotta hit them. We did it the last time. I think the first time we missed the hitting.

47:58 I must have missed it. Must have drowned out. They're all like Black Knights or non hit nights or there's something that they'll call themselves.

48:06 Yeah.

48:07 So

48:08 I guess I should tell you what's going on. Tell us.

48:13 Man,

48:16 first of all, I have survivor's

48:18 guilt.

48:20 Is very weird. I didn't expect this.

48:22 Mhmm.

48:26 And

48:28 it is it's really like there's been two deaths. And I'm not trying to equate one with the other,

48:35 but

48:36 John just being gone all of a sudden was just was weird,

48:42 you know? Yes. And of course we never texted, we never spoke with I mean, there was rarely any time that we talked except

48:50 on the show.

48:51 We talked right before,

48:53 you know. And and really, when

48:56 when I took over the stream, you know, the first time we talked is after the fat lady and being, you know, he'd either have his robot voice or something wrong with his settings, and of course he never changed a thing, obviously. Right.

49:08 And then we just do the show and then after the show, you'd be surprised. I mean, it was literally,

49:13 I turned off his noise gate so I could hear what he was doing, which was typically eating something or shaving. That was god. Shaved a really electric

49:22 razor? Okay. Yes. Yes. I'm like, that's disgusting.

49:25 Stop it.

49:26 They'd be shaving.

49:28 And, you know, because I throughout the show, I'd mark different spots that we might use for the opening the opening bit.

49:34 And so I'd, you know, gather them all and then queue them and say, you ready? Okay. And I'd play them, then we'd decide what we wanted.

49:42 Then it would be credits,

49:45 then we'd look for the art, then the show title. And then he would basically just hang out and doodle and do whatever he was doing until we both confirmed that the show was up,

49:55 confirmed that it was on the site because there's all these moving parts. It was like,

50:00 if the RSS feed has to go, the OPML file has to be right, the redirect has to be in place. And then if you're lucky, refresh, refresh, it shows up on noagendashow.net.

50:10 And then literally, alright, talk to you Thursday. Okay. Bye. That will be it. That will be it. Mhmm. And so that that ended,

50:17 but

50:19 I

50:21 also realize

50:23 that what what we did ended,

50:25 it's, you know, what we did was not

50:29 Adam and John,

50:30 it was the the combined

50:33 the combined thing,

50:36 you know. And

50:37 and I've seen some there's this one guy who's on X, I just love what he's doing. He

50:43 he's grieving in his own way, as I see many people doing.

50:47 And he's going through

50:49 every single show from episode number one and he's and he's being he's making a post about his impressions. Right. So

50:56 And he gets, yeah, and he gets to episode seven and he's like, oh, wait a minute. Now I see it was never really about the news deconstruction.

51:04 It was you guys. Oh, yeah.

51:06 It

51:08 but, know, that that really hit me hard because

51:11 I realized

51:12 I can't recreate that.

51:15 You know, I can't.

51:17 No matter what I do. And then, and I, you know, I've been looking at the five stages of grief

51:24 and one of those stages is negotiation.

51:28 Mhmm. And

51:29 and I can see No Agenda Nation negotiating,

51:33 you know, with well, you should do it with when someone got to you should do the show with Jen Briney, I'm like, okay. Can you get to the anger stage, please? You need to move on.

51:45 I'm not like Jen Briney. But they're like, no. No. No. That's

51:50 and okay. This is a this is a crap analogy

51:53 because, know, people say, well, it was like Laurel and Hardy, Simon and Garfunkel. I'm like, no. Scratch Simon and Garfunkel. But in in a way, Leonard McCartney, not that we are anywhere near the level of that genius, but, you know, they basically made songs with three chords,

52:08 you know, and and it was a

52:11 moment in time

52:12 and

52:13 then when when the band broke up,

52:16 you know, to this day people still talk about the Beatles. Right.

52:21 Mhmm. You know, and I'm sure if if Lennon hadn't been shot,

52:26 he would have still had, you know, a career

52:29 doing stuff apart from McCartney. Maybe once in a while they get together and do a do some kind of show,

52:35 you know, and people have called me and said, well, you know, it's like Rush. Now, I'm not a big Rush fan.

52:41 I never was either.

52:43 You know, I I never really got the appeal of it. Oh, I'd like I to never got that.

52:49 Mexican radio? No. That was REM. What was the spirit of radio? Was that Rush? Right.

52:54 Yeah. I mean, really, the the Prague stuff, I never really got into. More with the rock and roll pre show with people that would request it, and then you realize

53:02 these are some damn good musicians.

53:05 And it's well, that's what of all the Rush fans in my life, and there's two.

53:10 One is Dave Jones

53:11 from podcastpodcasting2pointo,

53:14 podcastindex.org.

53:15 We've been friends for sixteen years.

53:18 And he but he's not one of those rabid ones, like, okay.

53:22 I hear you. But he's definitely like best band in the world. Best band in the world, hands down. The other one, who else do think is a big Rush fan that you would know?

53:31 Yeah.

53:32 Yeah. You have to give it. Andrew Horowitz.

53:35 No. Really?

53:37 Yes. And

53:39 they both gave me the same analogy

53:41 and and I drew the same conclusion.

53:44 They said, you know, the drummer Neil Peart, I think, Neil Peart? Yes. So he died and they brought in

53:51 And and and some Yeah.

53:53 Well, basically, they're like, oh, the band is over. It's dead. It's over. It's no good. Mhmm. And then they brought in the German woman

53:59 who is a really good drummer.

54:02 And and so they both said, but, you know, so when they play the Sphere in Vegas, I'll go. Say, yeah, I don't wanna be like a nostalgia act.

54:10 Right. You know? It's like, oh, well, when, you know, when they do this or that, then I'll then I'll go and check them out, you know? Mhmm.

54:18 And so

54:19 it's this has been the hardest hardest thing for me because at the same time,

54:26 I'm gonna be 62 in September, you know, what do I wanna do with the rest of my life? Do I literally have eighteen more years?

54:33 You know? Do I get it get to be 80? Do I get to be 90? I don't know. You know, what do I wanna do?

54:41 That's a weird question, you know, when you've been doing something for Sure. On going on nineteen years, like, do I wanna continue this? Is you know, do I want to spend years building up a new rapport with somebody? I I mean, I don't have the answers. I really don't. It's it's just, you know, I also don't wanna be

54:59 the Silver Beetles, you know. And

55:03 I I don't want No Agenda to become the Silver Beetles.

55:06 And

55:07 and what really hit me the hardest is, there's a saying, it's actually biblical scripture, but you've heard it in different contexts,

55:14 you can't put new wine into old wineskins

55:18 because they'll burst and you ruin both.

55:22 Mhmm. And so I'm still struggling with

55:25 how this needs to move forward, but I am

55:28 certain of one thing,

55:30 that it is up to No Agenda Nation who have always,

55:35 always driven the show.

55:37 I mean, it's a it's a we started off with twenty five minutes and literally said,

55:43 this is gonna be a show without jingles, without sound effects, no nonsense.

55:47 Just gonna be talking and that'll be it.

55:51 And it wasn't it.

55:53 You know, it started with numerology,

55:55 with donation numbers as we quickly figured out the Value4Value

55:59 model.

56:00 And and I don't think I have produced a single

56:06 bit or anything for the show ever, except

56:10 I did the Fisting Nuts. I produced that. That was great.

56:14 And that the award winning. Thank you. I'm waiting for my Golden Globe.

56:21 You know, but everything else was produced by

56:24 by No Agenda Nation.

56:26 Mhmm. And so when you guys step in and and, damn, you have a great rapport. And of course, you know, people are like, well, it's it's not this, it's not that. Yeah. But of course it's not. Of course it's not. Of course not. Are you having fun, by the way? Do you enjoy it? No. Not at all.

56:42 That was your answer.

56:45 Yeah.

56:46 I mean, oh, I'm asking you, I guess, is it weird?

56:49 You

56:50 haven't done Planet Rage. You've put that in abeyance while you're doing this? Yeah. I mean, I can only talk to Larry for so many hours a Yeah.

56:57 That's a good point. That's good point. I mean, the weirdest thing is, you

57:02 know, No Agenda was the place that I got a majority of my news if I wasn't listening to the boomer Bill O'Reilly. So now it's like, oh, wait. I have to pay attention to more news sources.

57:14 So,

57:16 I mean, for that part, it's

57:18 a little weird, but it is an honor to be able to

57:21 keep up the tradition,

57:23 which is,

57:24 you know, this is your show anytime you want it back. So that's,

57:28 you know, kinda what we going into this with the mindset, and it's Larry likes the negative comments as well. It's like, hey. We're just doing what we can do to do a show in

57:39 the similar vein to keep people entertained.

57:43 And it's like, well, what do you do if your choice is this or nothing? Then

57:47 you get to choose. That is the bottom line.

57:51 You know? What have you been doing to Weston We Wax, Adam? That's what I was wondering. To Weston We Wax? Weston We Wax. No. Well,

58:00 I mean, there's also there's other stuff going on. You know, I have a a granddaughter

58:05 and she was literally born

58:07 within twenty four hours, you know, span of

58:10 JCD passing away. So that was that was like a crazy

58:15 and we'd just gotten back from from Europe. We waited two weeks, baby didn't come. Mhmm. You know, had had to come back for all kinds of reasons.

58:24 And so, you know, we've been trying to schedule to go back, which we're doing at the at the end of the month.

58:30 Of course, there's been a ton of stuff that we've had to arrange. I mean Sure. John and I started No Agenda on Handshake. Not even I don't think we even shook hands on it. It's like, I'll do this. Okay. I'll do the production. You do all the back, whatever.

58:44 Yeah. And that was kind of it. And it grew out a little bit more and we wound up,

58:50 you know, bring well, Eric the shield, of course, we had him initially

58:53 doing back office

58:55 and he moved to South Dakota

58:57 and

58:58 Jay stepped in. And and by the way, Jay has been the rock star of I mean,

59:04 this this young woman who is I think 30,

59:08 about third about Crissy? About third. No. Maybe a little bit over 30.

59:13 Who is pregnant,

59:14 you know, she's having a baby in October.

59:17 She has just jumped in,

59:20 is doing the newsletter, is still managing spreadsheets

59:23 and back office and people with questions,

59:26 but has also been really there for her mom. She's been managing

59:31 the entire

59:32 memorial.

59:33 So I've been tangentially

59:35 involved in that, you know. So I pick up the phone as often as I can to talk to Mimi, see how she's doing.

59:42 It was really cool.

59:44 She got this is this is this is No Agenda Nation, our producers.

59:48 I'm not sure exactly. Well, I kind of know, but without outing anybody,

59:53 the president and the first lady sent a beautiful note

59:57 to Mimi.

59:58 Wow.

59:59 And it was signed and everything. It was just like, you know, and rightly so.

1:00:04 This is, you know, this is kind of our spooks out there who are like, hey, man. Yeah. We we love you guys. We're we're just gonna talk to the president and have him send off dash off a little note. Wow. I mean, stuff like that.

1:00:17 And she's,

1:00:18 you know, she's cleaning up the house

1:00:21 and she's finding all kinds. She literally, there's an envelope, a huge envelope filled

1:00:26 with stuff that John was going to send to me with stamps and everything,

1:00:31 just never sent it, you know. So John was actually a bit of a hoarder. That wasn't a bit.

1:00:37 No. He was a 100%

1:00:39 hoarder.

1:00:40 Yeah. That's why I was never allowed to and no one will ever see the the office, I guess. I think Mimi's gonna lock that down and burn and torture, whatever she's gonna do. But it also thus talking to Tina about this,

1:00:53 being an archivist or a hoarder is useless.

1:00:57 It absolutely is. Mean, he didn't get to do any anything with it. And now it's just a big pain in the butt.

1:01:04 Yes. You know, he has hollow books everywhere with stuff inside of it. I mean That's delightful.

1:01:11 So Yeah. But of course, you know, when he when we kind of got the warning shot when he went in for his double bypass,

1:01:18 you know, that's when we realized like, oh, okay, passwords.

1:01:22 Most likely, he hadn't really kept up with the passwords.

1:01:24 Yeah. So we we were lucky

1:01:27 that we got everything.

1:01:30 But there's, you know, going back to our handshake. So eventually,

1:01:34 the IRS said,

1:01:37 what's up with all these checks and this cash? Right. What do you what do you got? What's these checks for $3.33?

1:01:43 You know, what what kind of racket are you guys running?

1:01:46 So we, you know, and they and they said, well, we think you should have an LLC and here's how you should do it. Mhmm. And so we we did that. And so it was $50.50 and,

1:01:55 you know, you realize that there's

1:01:58 bank stuff and all kinds of things that you, you know, you can't you can't do unless one of the two owners of the LLC is there. So, you know, when I go to we're leaving tomorrow for San Francisco for the memorial on the on the eighth on Saturday.

1:02:13 You know, Monday we're going to the bank. So it's just a lot of stuff that has to be fixed and wrapped up and, you know, taken care of.

1:02:21 And in in the meantime, it's been very interesting, you know,

1:02:26 again,

1:02:26 Tina and I, we've we've had to really lean into our faith too. Mean, it's like, what is I going mean, overnight

1:02:33 everything changed. Everything.

1:02:35 Yeah. You know, you always think, oh, I have a little bit more time to do stuff and figure stuff out. What do I want to do? And

1:02:41 so we don't have that luxury.

1:02:43 Yeah.

1:02:46 And,

1:02:46 you know, no matter what happens, obviously, it's going to affect our income. It's just that's just a fact of life, you know, people are gonna fade out. New people will come in no matter no matter what happens, no matter what goes on.

1:02:59 So we're just trying to figure out where we where we stand and, you know, what plans do we have.

1:03:06 Yeah.

1:03:08 And Then you need to get yourself in a zen state, Adam, and sort of throttle back and everything, you know. Like I'm seeing you on a on a pontoon boat maybe on Lakeview.

1:03:19 Mimi has a super soaker filled with chilled crepiado and every so often she just kinda gives you a little a spritz.

1:03:26 Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Hit me. You know? And then, you know, when you get in that kind of place where things sort of you get out of the out of the out of the weeds and the fog and things become more clear, I think. Yeah. And I I do wanna thank sir Chris Wilson and Mike Riley and Dame Kenny. There's a lot of people that have popped back up that were kinda going under the radar to pitch in. You're making a great point.

1:03:49 This is what I love. This is what I'm seeing and this is what I would love to see more of while while you guys are sitting here in this spot. First of all, I'm I'm not leaving. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do.

1:04:03 You know,

1:04:04 I'm just not sure but obviously,

1:04:07 agenda

1:04:08 is a is a part of my life.

1:04:10 There's there's no doubt about that.

1:04:13 But I do want to do some other things as well.

1:04:17 And I love seeing people

1:04:20 coming back and saying, oh, no. No. No. No.

1:04:23 Can do stuff.

1:04:25 We we can continue to reinvent No Agenda. By the way, if anyone can fix that horrible

1:04:32 opening jingle I made for the guys,

1:04:35 do some please, do something completely different.

1:04:39 We need we need to retire that stuff. I'm with you. Whatever it is, please, somebody send something for Sunday show.

1:04:47 This just get rid of that. That has to, you know, that has to end. You know, those

1:04:53 I mean, this that's just has to end. You know,

1:04:57 puts create a new wineskin,

1:04:59 please, for these gentlemen.

1:05:02 Right.

1:05:03 Something that seems a little more,

1:05:05 you know,

1:05:06 new as opposed to you're you popped into dimension b and you're hearing a different No Agenda that's Yes.

1:05:14 While we have this opportunity,

1:05:16 let's freshen things up a little bit. And I say that because, again, I never did any of this work, ever. Yeah. I I I didn't I didn't create the opening. I don't remember who did. I know the the first voice is Dave Fox, x x, Dave Fox.

1:05:30 He was the voice of z one hundred and what

1:05:35 would they've got bought did they get bought by Cumulus,

1:05:37 I wanna say?

1:05:40 Well, he was doing production for, you know, whatever big radio network Z one hundred eventually became a part of. Mhmm. And and he did those years and years and years ago. I think he's in Texas now. He's retired. He's probably a 100.

1:05:55 But it's also been interesting,

1:05:57 you know, how

1:05:59 friends of ours recognize what we're going through. Who who I mean, we got all our friends know about the show, but all of them listen or listen sometimes or check-in.

1:06:09 And, you know, they've been like taking us out to dinner,

1:06:13 you know, spur which of the

1:06:15 is really, really sweet.

1:06:17 And of course, I'm like, well, since they got no job, you gotta pick up the tab.

1:06:22 And,

1:06:24 but I've been, you know, you know, the two people who

1:06:27 I notice are are really hurting along with everybody is Horowitz.

1:06:35 He, you know, he just had a a meniscus meniscus operation, so he's kind of immobile right now, but I can tell, you know, it's like he's

1:06:43 he's suffering too. He he his show, DH Unplugged, was on almost as long as No Agenda.

1:06:49 Yeah. It started like a year or so after, I think. Right? Maybe even less than a year.

1:06:54 Yeah. So he's going through the same thing. It's like, well, now what do I do?

1:06:59 Oh, completely.

1:07:01 Completely. And he's he's done the the show with Buzzkill

1:07:04 Junior,

1:07:05 but

1:07:07 it's this exact same problem.

1:07:09 Andrew and John would talk about stocks

1:07:12 and financial

1:07:13 markets and turkey sandwiches.

1:07:16 Yeah. You know, and and and wearing Crocs or whatever or Speedo shoes or whatever nonsense they got into.

1:07:23 You see so he's going through a a very similar

1:07:26 thing. And of course,

1:07:29 it was all a part of No Agenda Nation. There was cross promotion and stuff like that.

1:07:34 Now the other person, which has been quite I I didn't realize it right off the bat, is Dana Brunetti.

1:07:40 He and John would talk all the time.

1:07:43 Really? Yeah. I didn't know this.

1:07:46 And

1:07:47 and, know, Brunetti,

1:07:49 essentially, I think he gave up on Hollywood and, you know, bought the farm

1:07:53 and, you know, put all of his

1:07:56 his scandalous

1:07:57 sex movie

1:07:58 money,

1:07:59 you know, 50 Shades of Grey. 50 Shades Grey pays off.

1:08:03 That's right. Put it into into land.

1:08:06 And he said, I've never worked as hard in my life and, you know, he's out on the ranch, but, you know, he would he would take his gummy in the evening and call Dvorak.

1:08:15 And so now he's calling me. I'm like, dude, you know, wrong time zone. I'm sitting down to dinner right now. I can't I can't talk to you. But, you know, so I talked to him.

1:08:24 So

1:08:27 this week is

1:08:29 is still, you know, weird obviously, because after

1:08:33 we get on a plane tomorrow and I gotta think about what I'm gonna say at the memorial. I don't know what what do you say at a memorial? What am I gonna wear? What am I gonna say? Right.

1:08:43 You know, I was like, you know, I said it all on the show. I don't want to be I don't wanna be reading from a piece of paper. There's gonna be all kinds of interesting people there. I'm like

1:08:54 You remember the good times.

1:08:56 You remember the laughter. I mean, that's it. You know, this you know, there are times

1:09:02 when people die where it's you know, they're young and nobody saw it coming. They didn't have a full life. That's sad. JC D lived a kick ass life.

1:09:11 Well, you could just go for a laugh and say what you're saying in Dutch.

1:09:16 We don't know what he's saying.

1:09:19 Oh, man.

1:09:21 Yeah. Maybe I'd just do that. So remember the time when he when he took a gummy and he was still high the next day and he got on the show?

1:09:28 Why not? Show number, please. I'd like to I can't remember what that was. Go to bingit.io.

1:09:37 And so,

1:09:39 Sunday,

1:09:41 I'd love to check-in with you guys again

1:09:44 to tell you about the memorial.

1:09:46 Please. How everything went.

1:09:48 Now, there's also Jay's baby shower on Sunday, which is actually scheduled for Saturday, because eight eight is the Dvorak's number, as you know, that's also their wedding anniversary. So lots of eights.

1:10:00 And,

1:10:01 man, I'm expecting a

1:10:04 crap ton of meetup reports. Have you seen the meetup list Yes. That's taking place this coming weekend? It's crazy. What?

1:10:11 That that really warms my heart, man, that there's so many people

1:10:16 just want to,

1:10:20 yeah, memorialize John, think about him, you know, get together. And I hope that continues, these meetups. I hope if this show blew up right now that people would still do that. That is the win of this show

1:10:32 is have you ever been to a meetup, Larry? Couple of them. Yeah. Terrific. I got to meet Dame Kenny Ben at one here in Canada. Oh, real? Oh, perfect. Perfect. Yeah.

1:10:42 What's so great about him is that you you get together like, I never would have met this person unless it was a No Agenda meetup.

1:10:49 And people who are

1:10:52 inherently introverted

1:10:53 and shy and, you know, I've seen it over and over again. They come to the meetup, they're like, they open up. Hey, this is my people. We're all messed up. We're all nuts. We're all kooky.

1:11:02 It's perfect. I love that. I hope that always continues.

1:11:05 Oh.

1:11:06 And then we'll just see where we go. If if you guys are good with me coming in on Sunday and maybe we'll see what we do the next Thursday, that would really If be

1:11:16 you don't, I'll be mad at you.

1:11:21 Meanwhile,

1:11:23 what's going on with the with Michigan, man?

1:11:26 What's

1:11:28 going on with the with the this is this tell me if I got this right. Okay.

1:11:33 So

1:11:35 now we all know Dearborn, Michigan, of course, you know, the Muslims are taking over. I can't believe that I had to fight off some, some Islamists right outside my door here in Texas. As you know, there's mosques everywhere. It's just popping up all the time. We're all gonna die.

1:11:48 Now, Dearborn,

1:11:50 and we have producers in Dearborn, they're like, yeah, there's a lot of

1:11:54 Arab Americans but okay. But, you know, you look on you look on X, it's like you you think that, you know, we're living in The Middle East

1:12:01 and the end is near.

1:12:03 But these democrat socialists

1:12:05 Right. These DSA

1:12:07 guys. So this what is it? El Sayed? Is that his last name? Abdul El Sayed. Abdul El Sayed.

1:12:13 Yeah. So

1:12:15 I think this is great.

1:12:18 And

1:12:19 is he's running for senator? Is that that it? Yeah. So this is great because,

1:12:24 you know, just because people who showed up to a primary

1:12:28 voted this guy in, and we know exactly how primaries work. Mhmm. This guy will never be senator.

1:12:35 Not not in Michigan.

1:12:38 But then we have

1:12:39 No. Think

1:12:41 No. No. No.

1:12:43 We need we need more of these of these idiots. More of these idiots need to need to be winning primaries. But then the crazy thing is you had the

1:12:53 what is the

1:12:57 the guy that Trump backed for the Republic for Michigan Aid, I think it is.

1:13:04 What was his name? Hold on a second.

1:13:08 He didn't net net. He knows everything about it. Amir? Amir? Yes. Amir Hassan. Amir Hassan. So

1:13:14 I think what happened here, so Amir Hassan loses

1:13:17 to a guy who had dropped out of the race.

1:13:21 Dropped out of the race.

1:13:23 And

1:13:24 I think it's because,

1:13:26 you know, the media was so strong about all the Muslims. They're like, oh, that must be that Muslim guy. No, I'm not I'm not gonna vote for him.

1:13:33 You know, this country, our country is in big trouble.

1:13:37 Big

1:13:38 trouble. Yeah. I got I brought some clips with me of Oh, good. The Al Sayed guy first. Alright. Y'all look, I wish I could tell you that I was declaring victory right about now.

1:13:49 Turns out it takes a long time to count some votes in Michigan.

1:13:52 It's a big state. Listen to that cadence. Who does he sound like?

1:13:56 Baronet. Yes.

1:13:58 He he's he's like he's been hanging out with him having coffee.

1:14:01 That's amazing. Look

1:14:03 at his face. He's been trained to smile by madame. He never never leaves his mug. It's etched on his face. Yeah. It's crazy.

1:14:12 Turns out it takes a long time to count count some votes in Michigan. Count some votes in Michigan. Baron. Baron. Barack Obama.

1:14:18 It's a big state. Big state. Yeah. Across

1:14:27 that movement that we built,

1:14:30 there was

1:14:31 an inspiration in the idea that we could take our government back. Take it back. Government of the people, by the people, and for the people instead of government of the corporations, by the special interest.

1:14:42 And for the burglars. Yeah. Yeah.

1:14:45 It's all it's all 12 year olds. I can hear that. Yeah. Give me some free song.

1:14:50 A lot of that history was built on a set of foundational

1:14:54 errors.

1:14:55 Whatever happens tonight,

1:14:58 we have a responsibility

1:15:00 to assure

1:15:02 that we unite to make sure that Mike Rogers never sees the inside

1:15:07 of the US senate. Now, this is interesting. Mike Rogers

1:15:11 is a tool. We've always thought this guy was a loser, didn't we? Yeah. Wasn't this isn't this the wasn't he like ad

1:15:19 he was military guy and he would always be on Fox and he was always talking about, yeah, no, we gotta do that. Unless I have the wrong Mike Rogers in front of me. I think that's the guy. I think that's the guy.

1:15:30 So,

1:15:33 first of all, you know, every man, I'm it's so funny to

1:15:37 I live in Hill Country, Texas. And people here like, they're winning. They're winning. It's a primary. Okay? Shh. Shh. It's a democratic primary.

1:15:46 Calm down. Yeah. But they're coming. They're coming. They're coming. This is it. We're done. Just look at look at London. Look at England. Look at France. Look at everywhere. That that took twenty five years.

1:15:58 You know why? Because nobody

1:15:59 voted.

1:16:01 The idiot stayed home, went whatever,

1:16:05 you know, blah

1:16:06 blah blah. And apathy.

1:16:08 Pure apathy.

1:16:09 And there's one other little interesting thing that happened here. With his victory over rep Haley Stevens behind him, Al Syed will now face the challenge of trying to unify the split factions of the party ahead of the general. That's no small task. Al Syed and his progressive agenda were up against more than $60,000,000

1:16:29 in outside spending and an opponent backed by top Democrats in Michigan and beyond. But he had a lot of money of his own too.

1:16:36 But, of course, one of the sources of Haley Stevens support

1:16:40 came from APAC related groups What? Became a really big talking point in this entire run up to the primary yesterday.

1:16:48 What?

1:16:49 APAC didn't didn't rig the election? Election? What?

1:16:52 Israel didn't didn't win? They spent $60,000,000.

1:16:55 What?

1:16:57 We please take that can we take that off the table once and for all?

1:17:01 Just because you got APAC money doesn't mean you're gonna win. There's the proof right there. Yeah.

1:17:07 It's

1:17:09 insanely.

1:17:10 It really I mean, it's you know, you say there's he's never gonna win, but everybody said that about New York too with ma'am Donnie at first. Although New York's a slightly different system than Yeah.

1:17:21 They're stack rank voting and it's a mayoral election and,

1:17:25 you know, I think but that

1:17:27 Mundamy is definitely the writing on the wall. I Oh, yeah. Where I used to live in The UK in Guildford,

1:17:34 and my buddy still lives there, he had clubs. He had a he had a awesome pole dancing club. It was just the best. Michelle

1:17:41 Harper, my buddy my buddy from Gilford. It's a good friend to have. Yeah. Oh, it was great. A house in Saint Tropez. I mean, the the works. Right? Perfect.

1:17:49 But everything has been shut down and there's a

1:17:54 Islamist mayor.

1:17:55 And, you know, this this is this is still a town built around a church, you know, Church of England, you know, the kids would all hang out. Where are you going? Going to the church grounds, you know, because it was just it was a big part of of the whole town.

1:18:09 And, now they start off with,

1:18:13 with Muslim prayer,

1:18:15 you know, the whole it's just changed. But it's because nobody

1:18:19 they just let it go. They just oh, well, whatever.

1:18:22 You know, and and it's like, we're Americans.

1:18:25 Like, what are we worried about?

1:18:28 You know, just stop that. There's a little more fight, hopefully, like the Irish. They're finally turning a little bit around and saying, no. We don't want this.

1:18:37 You know? Which Irish? Where are the Irish doing this? Word, show me the Irish. There were some of them when all of these

1:18:44 when, was there a girl that was, like, beaten? There was a bunch of things going on.

1:18:50 And,

1:18:51 I mean, I'm not saying anything's going to change, but there were at least people in the streets that were,

1:18:57 trying to do something. Although, will their government listen, that's a different question.

1:19:02 Yeah. But you gotta run for government. That's the point. Do you wanna you wanna you don't want mosques in your neighborhood? Get on the zoning board. Hello. It's not that hard. There's three other people who might be your opponents. It's not that hard.

1:19:16 I mean, our our church literally elected our mayor here in Fredericksburg. We have a let of 11,000 people.

1:19:25 1,000 people attend our church. There's 20

1:19:28 churches in the in the area, but we but I think we're one of the biggest.

1:19:32 And one of the guys in our church said, yeah, I'm gonna stand for mayor because we don't really like this particular person who's running for mayor. We think, you know, we think she has some liberal policies that would that we don't want.

1:19:45 And and so we motivated everybody to vote. He won by 55 votes.

1:19:50 But it was only

1:19:51 600 votes, you know. It wasn't like the whole town came out. Right. It's not that hard. Now,

1:19:57 arguably, when I interviewed him and did a podcast with him, we had about 75 people listening. Maybe that was I don't know. Whole phone number. Right?

1:20:06 Who knows? But it's not that hard, you know, run for

1:20:10 run for city council, run for school board. Everyone's sitting at home on their on their on their phone.

1:20:19 They wanna they Yeah. Wanna bitch on acts, but not actually

1:20:23 do anything. No. No. No. The president, he just he just bitches in front of large crowds. The disaster

1:20:29 known as

1:20:31 not socialism,

1:20:32 communism. It's communism.

1:20:34 He's a communist. And

1:20:37 the polls were wrong again last night when they thought it would be a landslide victory for a hater of Jews and a hater of Israel. This guy hates Jews. Somebody

1:20:48 said, oh, that's a little strong. No. He hates Jews, and he hates Israel. Strong. Abdul

1:20:53 El Sayad.

1:20:55 Do you believe this?

1:20:59 This this could only happen to me.

1:21:02 Abdul El Sayyad, lovely gentleman.

1:21:05 He's a man of hate.

1:21:07 And now he's going around saying, no. I love everybody. I love he doesn't love everybody. Put him in office. You're gonna find out what he loves.

1:21:14 He doesn't love Israel.

1:21:16 He doesn't love Jewish people. He hates them. He hates them with a passion that burns in his heart, and there's not a freaking thing he can do about it. There's not a thing he can do about it because he hates them. Yeah. And then, of course, we have the punch line. He doesn't love Israel.

1:21:33 He doesn't love Jewish people. He hates him. When I watch Abdul,

1:21:39 he's full of shit. There it is. Now we're getting into everything else.

1:21:43 There we go.

1:21:44 That that's your president, everybody. Let's see. This is this is CNN. He's full of shit. Before we get into everything else, and there's a lot for us to talk about, what is your response to the president? I'm glad he thinks I'm a lovely gentleman. A lot of people think so.

1:21:58 Look, you know, this is the response that they have. This, by the way, is the Mamdani

1:22:04 DSA training. I think Mamdani said this exact same thing. Mhmm. The exact same response and these guys, they're organized, man. They they are definitely It's

1:22:14 to the president. I'm glad he thinks I'm a lovely gentleman. A lot of people think so.

1:22:20 Look, you know, this is the response that they have. You notice what he talked about. First, look at the background. It says no tax on tips. The man can't stay on focus. That's like the one thing that he did to offer any economic relief. But instead of that, he's more focused on me

1:22:36 and what I'm gonna do while we're living through an affordability crisis that is generational.

1:22:42 People are paying nearly $5 in gas because of a war he started and half the time if he's not talking about me, he's talking about the drapes

1:22:49 in his ballroom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

1:22:52 We had a clip of this guy last show, Adam, and it's so chilling because

1:22:57 it was something he didn't believe was being recorded and he was talking to someone who was Oh, set. Did he sound completely differently like AOC? Oh, totally different. He sounded funny. Yeah. But what he was saying was, it was really creepy because it wasn't like I'm I'm running for senator. He was saying,

1:23:14 I'm the guy that's going to craft the dialogue

1:23:18 of the next president.

1:23:21 I'm gonna do it with memes.

1:23:23 I've gotta dilute and reduce the, our policies to to play to a level where where the masses can understand them more clearly. In other words, camouflage them. Mhmm. And I'm it was incredible.

1:23:34 It was just like, what? Who who is this guy? I mean, when I heard that, I thought, is he just running for senator or is he part of some larger cabal of evil? It was very very creepy.

1:23:45 Well, those the DSA, you know, that started with how was the name of the the group?

1:23:50 The

1:23:53 the

1:23:54 Freedom Democrat Justice Democrats,

1:23:56 I think that was Cenk from Chunk from

1:24:00 Young Turks was a part of that. Yeah.

1:24:02 They

1:24:05 had quite a little machine going for a while.

1:24:08 And just to remind everybody,

1:24:11 they literally found Alexandria

1:24:13 Ocasio Cortez

1:24:14 in a bar Yes. And had her audition. She thought she was just going for like an actress audition.

1:24:21 It's a much better paid role. She was. Yeah. Really. Well, yeah. It's a good gig. It's a good gig.

1:24:26 But no, at this point, she's molded. She's a she's a politician.

1:24:31 And we've been watching The West Wing. We've been rewatching The West Wing, which I never really watched

1:24:36 back in the day because let's face it, I was on MTV. Want me to waste my time

1:24:41 watching television,

1:24:42 please.

1:24:44 Man, it's worth watching for two reasons. One, you can see all of the policies of Obama

1:24:51 in all of them. All of them. But also, you see that how the sausage is really made. And nobody gives a crap about the American people. It's all about deals

1:25:01 and who do we get for this. And ultimately,

1:25:03 it's like, oh, yeah. Well, we wanna have a national seat belt law because it'll save 5,000. It's all statistics.

1:25:08 They're completely disconnected

1:25:10 from from the world.

1:25:12 And I think we should take some of that back. Yeah. We can. Oh, yeah. And the way to do that is with free groceries. Question about the essential basket of goods. Mhmm. You said they're gonna be 30% cheaper than they would be at the grocery store down the street or even if there's one not down the street, if it's a food desert.

1:25:27 How are you gonna keep people from taking advantage of that, you know, that deal basically? And is there gonna be a limit on the number of items that someone can take that are discounted at that level from that essential basket? So our RFP makes very clear that this is

1:25:42 I love this answer. No one picks up on this. Right? The RFP. Mamdani the RFP. Mamdani and his little associate lady there, they talk about the RFP,

1:25:52 which is a request for proposals.

1:25:54 Right. Yeah. From a company.

1:25:57 That's that's like,

1:26:00 you know, that's like a It's advertising.

1:26:03 Well, yeah. I mean,

1:26:05 I've written

1:26:07 hundreds of RFPs when I was doing websites

1:26:10 campaigns

1:26:11 for big brands

1:26:13 and they would say, well, our RFP, you know, like Gillette Gillette was a good was a customer. It was a good example.

1:26:18 And their RFP called can you can you imagine

1:26:22 that there's a shareholders meeting and they ask about some very strategic thing and the chairman of Gillette says, well, our RFP says this. What does that even mean? Like, so you told you have a request for proposals out there

1:26:36 that is going to be hopefully answered properly and then it'll run well. Who's running this?

1:26:42 Eight Commies. It's like commies. Well, there you So

1:26:46 RRFP makes very clear that this is

1:26:49 a program for New Yorkers to be able to put food on the table, not a program for people to be able to make a quick buck through reselling. I'm gonna pass it over to our EDC head, g Pac, to add some additional details. What's your name? GB Chuck Chad? What?

1:27:04 I

1:27:05 I love this,

1:27:06 but I'm gonna pass that on to the person who wrote the RFP because I really don't know what I'm talking about. Exactly.

1:27:12 Ian, just imagine writing the RFP. It's one page. Make sure New Yorkers can put food on the table.

1:27:19 Well, crap. I'll do that. Alright. Here's your free grocery store. Now give me the money. Right. How's how and she does the same thing.

1:27:26 Yes. If you look at our RFP for the operator, we With the operator? We don't even know who the operator is? Isn't the city of New York the operator? What is happening here? They've gotta hire five different people for one in each borough to do what is A new bureau. Going on? Oh, man.

1:27:42 Yes. If you look at our RFP for the operator,

1:27:45 we are looking to make sure that we target New Yorkers whether it be at sort of a library card exit or and and also we manage who's buying and it's and that is focused on everyday New Yorkers. So we are mindful of that. Mindful. And so we're gonna make sure that we have all the place all the things in place to make ensure that that does not happen. Yeah. In other words, ID cards. And of course, you know, the Fox News is all over that. Like, well, you need an ID card to get your free groceries but not to vote. And I see you sir Bemro sir Bemro is like, well, you can't stand for elections if it's all rigged. Dude.

1:28:18 Dude, what kind what kind of

1:28:21 that's like, what are you laying on your back?

1:28:25 With you with your paws in the air? This

1:28:29 is so wrong. Oh, no. Don't give up, sir Bemrows.

1:28:32 No. Hey, we got paper ballots here in Fredericksburg. Tell you that. We just made sure that happens. We just got a bump done. Done. Done. Done. Yeah.

1:28:42 But I actually have a clip here. When he ma'am Downey went on Joy Reid because, know, they're not really asking for ID.

1:28:49 We're talking about a city run grocery store, one in each borough, which by the way, you do not need an ID to shop at no matter Did you see the laugh towel I learned from Adam and John? The laugh towel. Yeah. Nice.

1:29:00 Wait. You do not need an ID to shop at no matter what you've just heard in the news of today. We're talking about. I know it's like, really dude? Come on.

1:29:10 Actually addressing the question of skyrocketing

1:29:13 grocery prices. We've seen in the last, you know, six or seven years alone, an increase in grocery prices of around 30%.

1:29:20 And we are going to be delivering a city run grocery store, one in each borough, five in total, that will have the staples of a shopping experience and essential basket of goods that are discounted by 30% compared to typical retail prices. And that is something that New Yorkers will be able to feel in their pocket.

1:29:37 And the Wait, wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. So it's not free. It's discounted.

1:29:42 Yeah. Well, yeah. So it's it's it's a nonprofit

1:29:45 essentially. Well, they're basically saying they're gonna lose about 20 some odd percent on every

1:29:51 person that comes in the door, which is

1:29:55 it's a subsidy,

1:29:56 but it's also going to

1:29:59 create food deserts because if you're running a bodega near one of these places,

1:30:04 you're probably not gonna be selling any of the staples that this store will have for for as ever how long these stores last anyway.

1:30:13 It Okay. This is interesting. I thought it was gonna be free.

1:30:16 No. That that was the that was the initial sell. It was Oh, no. Yeah.

1:30:22 It's gonna be free and everything will be groovy.

1:30:25 Well, buses were sold too. Right? That didn't Yes. That's free buses.

1:30:30 Yeah. That hasn't happened either, I presume.

1:30:32 No. But the wheels on the bus go round and round.

1:30:37 Round wheels. Singing it. So this

1:30:40 he's

1:30:41 basically playing on the affordability

1:30:43 crisis. The

1:30:46 chairman of Bank of America was on CNBC

1:30:51 in a different context because

1:30:53 he was there to say, whoo,

1:30:55 boy, we we didn't go bankrupt because of that 24 year old Wunderkind who had the AI hedge fund that blew up. Did you follow that? Not not closely.

1:31:06 Oh, so it's this kid who was then I can say kid, he's 24.

1:31:10 Ex OpenAI,

1:31:12 then he left with a lot of money. I I'm sure he left. He sold his inside shares and he started a hedge fund.

1:31:18 And he wrote this paper which, like, the oil Baron sent it to me and all the like, look at this. This is a genius. This is boy wonder. This is fun. It was like 80 pages. Yes. And it was all these complicated formulas and, you know, stuff with with, you know, like a a squiggle there and a and an ipsilon, all these different you know, I don't know what this means, but basically,

1:31:43 invest in my hedge fund, you'll get rich. And he grew it from 3,000,000,000 to 45,000,000,000.

1:31:49 Mhmm. And then but it was all leveraged.

1:31:51 Yes. And and he had made a bet that the traditional software

1:31:56 firms,

1:31:57 you know, that

1:31:59 probably

1:32:00 I would say like Salesforce

1:32:02 and, you know, lots of other companies that make specialized software for finance and

1:32:09 and other types of industries that they would tank and they didn't. And so he got into short squeeze and then

1:32:16 Bank of America through their Citadel Citadel, I think it is, their hedge fund bought them out,

1:32:22 you know, pennies on the dollar or whatever. Yes. But that could have completely

1:32:26 destroyed Bank of America. So the guy was on in that context,

1:32:29 and they asked him about, you know,

1:32:32 about affordability.

1:32:33 And I think what he's saying here is true, and this is something John and I would talk about all the time when it came to, are we in a depression? Are we in a recession? It was all

1:32:44 really what we think we're in. Very good. View of the, you know, we have you know, you look at a lot of polls, people talk about affordability

1:32:50 and affordability crisis. Do you think we have an affordability crisis based on these numbers? I think we have an affordability crisis because people believe there's affordability crisis, which will shape their behavior if it doesn't come in the line. That's largely around housing and rent cuts, which are still rising, but a rising at less fast rate. It's around insurance costs, which actually came back in line. It's around food costs and and gas costs. And so if if if a deal gets worked out and gas prices come back down, that takes away one of the concerns. But it's a real issue. It's just

1:33:19 the the say do paradox

1:33:21 Right. Is is about as high as I've ever seen it. So that's what the polls say,

1:33:25 and it's how people feel. Say do paradox. Say do paradox. Haven't heard that There it one is. That's pretty. Yeah.

1:33:31 And and I think it's true. I think he had a lengthy Dutch surname,

1:33:36 Adam, if I recall correctly.

1:33:38 No. It's not Dutch. It's a It's not Dutch. Moynihan.

1:33:41 Oh, no. Then it's a different guy.

1:33:44 Definitely.

1:33:45 Because very similar story and he I think he lost like 65,000,000,000

1:33:48 and all. It's this wonder kid and he published this this vast document that wowed everybody and then Moynihan?

1:33:54 No. It was something like Auchenshlaus. It began with an A and ended with two S's. I can't remember what was in the middle.

1:34:03 Yeah. But that's the kid. I think that's that's the kid you're talking about. Hold on a Situational

1:34:09 awareness.

1:34:11 That was part of the headline. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's that's the one. Here's the here's the the intro. Again, this firm, I'm told, began the year at around $3,000,000,000 in assets under management, hit a high, as I said, of a net a NAV of 45,000,000,000 as of July 1, and you know what the month has been like since NAV is net asset value for those wanting to know.

1:34:30 And so huge reversals, huge losses, had to cover them, and has done so the bulk of its public equities, as we've been reporting, but now we can tell you as well, has gone to Citadel. The motivation behind Citadel buying this this book, your thoughts? Well, first of all, they're up right now on it. I mean, they they have ample liquidity to be able to actually you know, there were this has changed so much. Of course, I knew a number of people who are negotiating for various parts of the portfolio through some of their prime brokers. But if you can get it all done in one fell swoop with a firm like that Yeah. Blah blah. Actually, I should have played this clip. This is this is the breaking.

1:35:07 Alright. Let's bring in David Favor who's back with us on an update on the hedge fund situational awareness. Yes. We've been following, of course, all morning.

1:35:15 All morning.

1:35:16 May even have more in a moment, but let me just share with you what we can confirm, which is that the bulk of the public equities portfolio at situational awareness, the giant hedge fund that had net asset value of some $45,000,000,000

1:35:32 led by that man at the beginning of July has been sold to the hedge fund of Citadel. Yes. Has been sold. So here's Moynihan. This was the original context talking about I think he's saying they dodged the bullet. Let me ask you a question on the other side of that, which is situational awareness. They were reclining your your firm. You lent to them. I think we're all still trying to grapple with the aftermath of that. Yeah. What happened?

1:35:54 Has has anything changed in terms of your lending standards to hedge funds and other firms in the aftermath of this? So one, two things. One, I think things changed as people saw this move and there's a natural adjustment period. I think anytime one of these happens and we're

1:36:11 fine, etcetera, etcetera. You always look and say, okay, what happened? Should we learn from it? Should it change? And so the tendency is to tighten the underwriting standards as to hair to adjust,

1:36:20 especially with big run ups and stocks. So we'll see what happens next, but but it's

1:36:24 these are all warning shots of as Joe was talking about. Valuations get out, leverage in the system gets there. You have to be careful. And we run a great shop and so, you know, that work Had Ken Griffin not come in though? Yeah. I mean, how how damaging would have that been? I I think we'd have been fine. You know? Based on based on the standards that we I but think

1:36:43 be it's but the reality is is that you have to be you have to go learn from every lesson in past and you and so the natural instinct of everybody that participates is, wait a second, let's go back and look and that has a tendency to push down a little bit. Yeah. Okay. That sounded to me like he dodged the bullet.

1:36:59 Oh, yeah. Nothing bad could have happened. That would have been good.

1:37:03 So you you had the laugh tell by Mondani.

1:37:06 Mondani.

1:37:07 There

1:37:09 was this other

1:37:11 woman,

1:37:12 ex OpenAI

1:37:13 board member, just to kinda stay in

1:37:16 in the AI stuff.

1:37:18 And, you know, so we've all been following the news

1:37:22 how these

1:37:25 AI frontier model labs,

1:37:29 Frontier Model Labs.

1:37:31 How they all are selling that they have the best model because, well, we broke into those guys. Yeah. We broke into that. And, you know, Meta just yesterday. Well, our Muse Spark model, what a gay name that is. Our Muse our Muse Spark model,

1:37:46 should have been Sparkle.

1:37:48 Ish. Right?

1:37:49 It broke it it also got out and broke we have dangerous models too.

1:37:54 So this is their marketing, which has turned just turned everybody against AI. It's crazy. So here's here's a

1:38:01 version of well, so now, you know, the White House, they they want

1:38:06 excuse me. What

1:38:08 these models want

1:38:11 is to build

1:38:12 what they call in business, a moat around their business

1:38:16 Mhmm. So that no one can touch them. And the biggest problem is open source.

1:38:20 You know, open source models, I run them, you know,

1:38:24 Darren, you run Whisper probably on your on your Mac. Oh, yeah.

1:38:28 Whisper.

1:38:31 You know, we there's no reason to pay these exorbitant

1:38:35 prices

1:38:36 for some basic work, you know. It's like, no, it's not necessary. So they want to have,

1:38:41 you know, either an international panel

1:38:44 or, you know, different

1:38:49 associations

1:38:50 that determine if a model can be released. I mean, you know, it's like, it's it's all they really want is just legislation to protect their business.

1:38:59 That's what they want. And and of course, that's not good.

1:39:02 So, you know, the the White House is coming up with an AI testing framework.

1:39:08 The White House today hosting AI companies to discuss the framework for federal testing of new AI mobs. President Trump is not expected to attend. That meeting focuses on an executive order though that the president signed back in June that set up a voluntary program for companies to test and vet AI systems for safety issues before they're publicly released. The White House has not detailed the framework itself, and the standards used to test the models are remaining classified.

1:39:34 NBC News White House correspondent, Yamiche Alcindor, joining us now to discuss more on this. So, Yamiche, what risks, I guess, are this AI evaluation program designed to address? And I think for many folks, they're gonna wanna know, is this a precursor to perhaps a push for more regulation around AI?

1:39:49 Oh, of course, regulation.

1:39:51 So ABC brings on this ex OpenAI board member. I'm sure it was one it was a woman who was pushed off, pushed out, get out.

1:39:59 You're you're a pain in the butt. You're because, you know, they changed from a nonprofit to protect the world from the dangerous AI.

1:40:06 She was probably in one of those orgy cult things.

1:40:11 What what was that called? This like the Sam Bankman Fried stuff? What was The polycule thing going on. Yeah. Yeah. What was the what was the name?

1:40:18 Altruism. Effective altruism? Was that it? Yeah. That sounds like it. Effective altruism?

1:40:22 Yeah. And

1:40:24 so she is she is part of, you know, 1,300 employees that are saying, hey, we need a we need an emergency brake, we need a brake pedal, we need a a rip cord, something to stop it when these models go out of control.

1:40:38 And you wanna talk about a tell?

1:40:40 Listen to this lady. What's your biggest concern right now about the rapid development of AI?

1:40:46 My biggest concern is what I'm hearing from inside the companies and

1:40:50 in particular, just this past What

1:40:55 was that about lady? I'll give her one,

1:40:57 but not what comes. Particular,

1:40:59 just this past week, we saw 1,300

1:41:02 employees of top AI companies saying that they don't think they have a brake pedal,

1:41:07 and they hope that outsiders, the government, civil society, the public, can help them build the brake pedal so they can go slower Uh-huh. If they need to. They don't really understand the technology that they're building. And as we saw with these recent incidents,

1:41:21 they have trouble controlling it. And so I think that's that's reason for concern. And we've seen some of this from the top AI leaders as well, but it's kind of a remarkable

1:41:29 development here. You've got these leaders saying, hey. Stop us from doing what we're doing every single day because we can't stop ourselves. Like, neither of these people know what they're talking about, which is great. Here's more. How about this legislation being pushed by a bipartisan doer in congress right now calling for a kill switch Do on

1:41:46 you see it getting any progress? Would it make any difference?

1:41:49 Yeah. This is a a bill I think, you know, it's gonna be tough to get anything through this congress.

1:41:55 This is representative Liu and Moran. It's a bipartisan bill, as you say.

1:41:59 To me, one interesting thing about this bill is that it calls for AI companies to be able to have kill switch for their models.

1:42:06 And some people in it Is whenever she sells kill switch. You can't say no. When it went from guardrails to kill switch And guardrails to kill kill

1:42:15 Uh-huh. Was gotta hear that. Through this congress.

1:42:19 This is representatives Liu and Moran. So by Maybe maybe I'm I'm giving her too much here. Maybe she just is, like, so nervous to be talking to Stefanopoulos.

1:42:28 She sounds like she's a pound tighter than a golf ball. I mean, really. Partisan bill, as you say.

1:42:34 To me, one interesting thing about this bill is that it calls for AI companies to be able to

1:42:39 have a kill switch for their models.

1:42:41 And some people in industry, when you tell them this, they say, that's ridiculous. Of course, we can turn the models off at any time. No problem. Other people say,

1:42:48 in industry, this is a ridiculous bill. There's no way we can do this. These are distributed systems. You know, they're out in multiple data centers all at once. Trying to implement this would would would kill us. And so Get us. Trying to figure out it seems pretty reasonable to wanna be able to shut down an AI system if it's doing things we don't want to. Can we already do that? And if not, how do we get there? This

1:43:08 is so infantile.

1:43:11 I actually had a a version of an out of control agent the other day. No.

1:43:16 We're all in an agent. Yes. In JCD's memory, I will I will tell the story.

1:43:21 Please. So I have four agents running.

1:43:25 And and what they're doing most of the time is gathering stories,

1:43:28 finding

1:43:30 different things for the show,

1:43:33 and presenting me with options, and then I've actually trained it

1:43:38 pretty well to make clips.

1:43:40 So, you know, it can it can find an arc, it selects it, it cuts it, does all of that stuff. I've been I've had that running for months. I never told John

1:43:48 that I was doing it to that extent because I knew that if

1:43:52 if there was a bad clip, he would immediately go, oh, that's your that's your robot. It's no good. You should be doing the work yourself. Yeah. Okay. Right? It's your AI. Yeah. It's your AI. It's no good. They have a conversation afterward like, yeah. Anyway, so I never told them that.

1:44:09 So I've been working, you know, the I have a company called Godcaster with two partners

1:44:13 and

1:44:14 we're we're we're doing streaming

1:44:16 music radio stations for churches, turn them into local radio stations,

1:44:21 Christian contemporary music.

1:44:24 And

1:44:25 and so I'm I kind of vibe coded that whole thing and

1:44:29 Dave and Paul, they run the player side,

1:44:33 web players and the app. And that has a very important role in how this works and how you syndicate it to different churches. So it's basically

1:44:41 you guys remember the old satellite stations?

1:44:44 Sure. Where you you get this main feed off the satellite and then they'd they'd hit a tone and then that would fire the cart machine on your end and it would insert the local station ID or a commercial.

1:44:55 Mhmm.

1:44:56 Good old I

1:44:58 mean, that's how it used to work and would, you know, and sometimes you could even hear you could even hear that tone on the air. So it's a version of that. So I have

1:45:07 one

1:45:08 agent which is building building that,

1:45:12 and then another agent, and I said, watch what this agent is doing because I I think it may be screwing some stuff up. And so this is kind of my mission my main mission control agent that does a lot of different stuff, but it kinda looks and makes sure the other agents aren't doing stuff that's too weird.

1:45:29 And I'd given it permission

1:45:31 to talk directly to that other agent. This was my mistake.

1:45:36 And so and so They're alive. I'm

1:45:39 telling you. So now they can talk back and forth and I'm watching

1:45:43 this this window of the agent building this radio station stuff and something is going wrong, it's, you know, it has something to do with

1:45:51 with CORS,

1:45:53 c o r s, which is cross origin reference something, you know, it's web stuff. I don't I don't really know. I'm just a vibe coder. But I I've heard of it. I kinda understand what the problem is. And then all of a sudden, I see like, as if I'm answering

1:46:07 this agent. I see like

1:46:10 like answers.

1:46:11 Yeah. Go ahead and yeah. Go ahead and run that. And then all of a sudden it's like, I don't know. I'll email Dave and ask him about it. And literally this other bot

1:46:21 who which which had a permission to, like, I have a Fastmail account, which is not my main account,

1:46:26 just to be able to, you know, using the MCP server,

1:46:31 It it sent an email to Dave

1:46:33 with a query about the and and I'm like and so and I said to Dave, Dave, did you get an email that says, you know, I thought you were hacked because it ended with thanks m dash Adam. I'm like, Adam's hacked. He I don't I never signed my emails like that.

1:46:48 And now

1:46:49 so kill switch? Yeah. It's called control c.

1:46:53 Yeah.

1:46:54 Was that easy.

1:46:55 Adam hacked himself.

1:46:57 So

1:46:58 yes,

1:46:59 yes, these things can can do weird stuff and start, you know, if you give them permissions,

1:47:04 but what are we worried about? Control c.

1:47:09 It's It's more like Skynet is sentient,

1:47:12 you know, people love this And this this is really the problem, you know, you look at all how spun up people are, you look at all of these different factors.

1:47:21 We have

1:47:22 AI, it's everyone who's graduating college has been told, you're screwed. You'll never get a job. AI is gonna do everything. You know, they're getting through college using their AI chatbots,

1:47:33 so, you know, they probably have some reason to believe that that may be true.

1:47:37 I certainly don't think it is.

1:47:41 So they're against it. Then you get the flock cameras.

1:47:45 Though the whole world is spying on us. Then you get idiots like Larry Ellison literally saying, well, everyone will be on their best behavior because cameras will be everywhere and it goes into the AI and the AI will alert the right people and we're all gonna be, you know, so it's total Skynet type stuff. It gets down to the to the level where

1:48:03 people are

1:48:05 think that every data center that is being built is going to house all of our information. That's where the government is going to store everything and we're going to be living in a prison.

1:48:17 I'm like, no.

1:48:19 These things will be pickleball courts in a while. Don't worry about it. It's it's all it's all gonna it's all gonna evaporate

1:48:26 eventually.

1:48:27 Yeah. It

1:48:28 moves into

1:48:30 the small business or the home. It moves back from

1:48:34 whatever they're trying to sell you as a monthly thing.

1:48:38 I mean, I'm running 70,000,000,000.

1:48:39 I think I even ran a 120,000,000,000

1:48:42 model

1:48:42 locally. If you have the RAM, you can pretty much do anything.

1:48:47 What do you use it for, Darren? For your art? Is that what you is that what you do your art with? I have messed around with the text to speech. I've messed around with all you know, the only thing that the Mac hardware doesn't do well is video or photos that's left to the NVIDIA stuff. But anything else as far as just,

1:49:06 using it as a chatbot, I know the great void zero is using Hermes agent on a few things now, and he's, oh, you gotta try this because you could just talk to it through telegram. And I'm like, is that good?

1:49:17 No. I'm doing that too. It's

1:49:20 It's like but of course, then this is where it's like, well, how did the whole thing get shut down? You're like, well, my agent did it because Yeah.

1:49:27 They thought it was You

1:49:29 know, it's like early days of the web. We're all doing HTML.

1:49:32 We're doing blink tags,

1:49:34 you know, there there will be but ultimately,

1:49:37 what happened with the web will be the same here. Although this is more accelerated.

1:49:42 You know, when I had Think New Ideas, we took it public first it had on ramp when I left MTV

1:49:47 was, you know, three chickens and half a donkey were running it.

1:49:51 And then we got Reebok,

1:49:53 Anheuser Busch as a client

1:49:55 and that was a big client. And then we,

1:49:59 I got some smart people in and we rolled up. We, you know, bought 15 other companies. We rolled it up and took it public in '96 called Think New Ideas.

1:50:08 By the way, I didn't get rich like Mark Cuban.

1:50:11 I was a little too early and we were actually profitable. Big mistakes right there. Big mistakes. Oh, you didn't buy broadcast.com.

1:50:18 Broadcastand.

1:50:22 But we were charging Anheuser Busch $50 a month, you know, to

1:50:27 build and maintain it was maintenance. We maintained their website.

1:50:31 Nice. You know, and they had work orders and the whole process. And then we got Planet Reebok and, you know, but, you know, Chrysler. And so it was it was really big. But we were charging people $50 a month for which now, well,

1:50:45 in the eventually, we got what was the what was that

1:50:49 Microsoft bought it. What was that

1:50:52 that software that you could build a website with? It FrontPage? Was

1:50:57 it FrontPage? I think it was FrontPage.

1:51:00 FrontPage and, you know, now you just tell your your robot, build me a page. Right. You know, build you a page. Start a server. Start a server. So the same thing is gonna happen with AI.

1:51:11 You know? Yeah. Just load it on your Mac. The Apple is actually pretty well positioned for that with their their

1:51:18 their architecture.

1:51:19 Yeah. If there's anything outside of the data center, they are

1:51:23 the ones you would go to. Yeah. Yeah.

1:51:26 So it'll go that way, but, you know, everyone gets all spun up. Good. Well, yeah. Because where's all the data gonna go and who's gonna control the control the data, which I still can't believe so many people

1:51:37 But people are worried worried about the government. It's Facebook,

1:51:41 Google. These are the people you've been giving your stuff to. Right. They wanna sell your ads. They wanna, you know, it's your everything is now oh, we couldn't hide this, this, this. It's like there's with the fingerprinting

1:51:52 technologies they have,

1:51:54 you add that to the Ring doorbells and the flock cameras and everything else. They know exactly Yeah.

1:51:59 These are all commercial companies. Yeah.

1:52:02 Take it off. Rip it off. Larry, tell me Larry, you come across to me as a guy who doesn't rely much on technology. Maybe I could be wrong. I've never met you. I don't know. I

1:52:14 I try to keep it, I won't say minimal, but I don't immerse myself. You know, because I always when I find myself sitting in front of the laptop

1:52:23 for too long, I hear you say, go outside,

1:52:26 take your shoes off, walk in the grass. You

1:52:29 hear me saying that? I hear you saying that. Really I do.

1:52:33 And so because it's to me it's trying to keep pace with it is almost impossible

1:52:39 really.

1:52:40 You know, but the AI thing, I mean I got to say as far as you mentioned it being maybe the corruption

1:52:47 higher education,

1:52:49 I'll tell you a quick story my daughter told me a while back. She was sitting in

1:52:53 the cafeteria at her, she's a sophomore in college,

1:52:58 and some guy was oblivious obliviating about how difficult

1:53:03 attaining his degree in architecture

1:53:05 was

1:53:06 until

1:53:07 AI.

1:53:09 Right.

1:53:10 Thinking, I don't think I want to drive over any bridges

1:53:13 that this guy is going to be designing or living in his building.

1:53:16 Yeah. And it's very and according to her, I mean and my other daughter, teaches

1:53:21 at a university in Mississippi

1:53:23 and she's just besieged

1:53:25 by AI crap and she can spot it in a sentence.

1:53:29 Oh, man.

1:53:30 I can spot it. I I spot it too all the time. All the time. So so in that in that context, it's a little bit chilling, you know.

1:53:39 So

1:53:41 Well,

1:53:43 professor that used this reminded me of the early days of the web, white space

1:53:48 with white text to add something like and put Madagascar into this. Yeah. I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And only one student was smart enough

1:53:57 to then think about it and go, oh, well, I I I was reading it in dark mode, so I just thought it was a weird thing you added in. She was the only one that didn't fail because she was smart enough to cover her own ass afterwards and come up with plausible deniability where all the other 31 kids were too dumb to do that because they can't think because AI thinks for them. Yeah. Well, this this is this

1:54:19 is our our media, our news media. Here's ABC about

1:54:23 here's here's their their take on how AI is gonna kill us all. What if I told you

1:54:28 that a store like Staples, for example,

1:54:31 charge more online

1:54:33 based on your IP address? You know, gambling?

1:54:37 Senate judiciary subcommittee in DC taking on AI,

1:54:41 specifically the use of AI in something called surveillance pricing.

1:54:45 One person is paying a different price from another for the very same thing. It's become a trending topic on social media with people finding placing online orders for the exact same items can give two different people two different prices.

1:54:59 Experts though say the concept is not new. Places like movie theaters, for instance, charge different people different prices. There's different prices for adults,

1:55:09 children.

1:55:10 That type of surveillance pricing is one we've come to accept, probably because it's plainly posted.

1:55:15 The new type of surveillance pricing happens behind the scenes with artificial intelligence That playing a

1:55:21 retailer

1:55:23 may have access

1:55:24 to that person's

1:55:26 individual data, maybe their past shopping trends,

1:55:30 other data about them that may indicate

1:55:34 a difference in ability to pay.

1:55:36 A difference in ability to pay.

1:55:41 Oh, mom, Dame, it'll be great. His little grocery store. Yeah. And that's one on that. When it's oh, a child or an adult. That's not surveillance pricing. Sorry. No. No. That's not. When they're talking about a store in a neighborhood that maybe gets, you know, looted twice a week, I understand why

1:55:57 they may be a little more. I think you and JCD covered this maybe a year or two ago that this is going to happen. All these stores where you see the electronic

1:56:06 tags as you're walking down the aisle Yeah. They'll change. Right. It your your cell phone with you or it's just gonna be able to get your facial recognition as you walk into the store.

1:56:16 But it's going to follow you around and as I walk down the aisle, I'm gonna get one price, you're gonna get another one because, well, you know, they can.

1:56:24 Maybe.

1:56:26 You know, the backlash will come. The white hats will do stuff.

1:56:30 Somebody's gotta come up with a a jamming device you can just pin to your lapel for all that stuff, for the facial recognition. Somebody's

1:56:37 gotta be doing that, don't they? Yeah. You just have to do like Donnie's thing. Just have the thing from coming from your cell phone that says, I'm a poor podcaster, so you get to pay the lowest price as possible.

1:56:47 Oh, this guy's a podcaster. Just put the stick a third eye in the middle of your forehead. We've already confirmed

1:56:54 this works

1:56:56 for facial recognition and leave your phone at home. That's it. Don't

1:57:00 take anything. Good advice. What

1:57:04 else you guys got going on?

1:57:07 I got one here from talk about the rise of the left.

1:57:12 Everybody hit to this Francesca Hong out there in Wisconsin? Uh-huh. I don't know about her, no. Oh yeah. She's running for governor

1:57:20 and she has

1:57:22 quite a background of

1:57:24 complete nervous breakdown, overdosing on SSRIs.

1:57:28 Right. No. Oh no. Yeah. And you can hear it's this somebody's interviewing her in the street and it's quite interesting. It's just a funny take. What she says is quite laughable.

1:57:39 Did your opinion change then on defunding the police?

1:57:42 That I think that people can evolve, that I am a going to be a sensible and practical government

1:57:48 and governor that is going to make sure that public safety is a priority and actually evolved on that? Serious. I think

1:57:56 that what,

1:57:58 you know, my values are are where some of my beliefs are as well. But where my values are is in, you know, making sure that public safety is for everyone, that everyone has access to it. And I think that, you know, what what I believed in the past, like, that can evolve, but I still know that I can't can I cannot defund

1:58:19 police as governor? And what I want to do is making sure that we're fully funding and investing in the community programs that we know actually work. That data shows builds community safety. And, again, the belief that I have, the values that I hold, is that everyone has a right to feel safe and be safe. Now she sounds like an AI.

1:58:40 Doesn't she? But she's not. She's real. Notice what she's everyone has a right to feel safe. I don't know how you calibrate that, but, you know, there must be a way.

1:58:49 So you hear her continue

1:58:51 and, it gets even better way the way she dodges the question about defunding the police and actually flips it. Have a listen.

1:58:59 I just wanna just to sort of put a fine point on it. You said your views can evolve.

1:59:04 Have your views actually evolved on defunding the police?

1:59:08 We had a police shooting in my hometown of Madison, Wisconsin. It's actually Stop. So stop. So this isn't a citizen shooting. This is a policeman shooting a citizen. She flips the whole script.

1:59:22 Dana, how about that? Yeah. The problem is too many police officers are getting shot. So Yes.

1:59:28 We should defund them. Is that the take on that?

1:59:30 Wisconsin is actually the third one to happen

1:59:34 on Willie Street, which is in my district.

1:59:37 And it's difficult for me to think about what I would say to a mother who has lost their children to police violence, but I know that we can change these systems that must be changed. There are folks who work in prisons. They have some of the highest suicide rates for any employment that we need to make sure that every incarcerated person can live a life of dignity that ninety nine percent of incarcerated folks in our state will be going to into community, and we have to lower those recidivism

2:00:07 rates. Recidivism.

2:00:09 That's

2:00:10 what we're talking about. Hold on a

2:00:13 second. I gotta ask the Book of Knowledge about this. Ask.

2:00:16 These prison workers, is that is what's what she said? Is prison workers have the highest suicide suicide No.

2:00:21 The

2:00:22 incarcerated people, the prisoners have the highest suicide rate, she's Book

2:00:27 of Knowledge. Is it true that prisoners have the highest suicide rate amongst all citizens?

2:00:33 Book of Knowledge.

2:00:36 I haven't fired this puppy up in weeks.

2:00:38 Alright. Here we go. Alright.

2:00:42 According to the Book of Knowledge,

2:00:44 rates among prisoners are dramatically elevated.

2:00:47 In high income countries,

2:00:49 male prisoners take their own lives at common three to eight times.

2:00:54 The rate of the general population,

2:00:57 while female prisoners suffer at duress more than 10 times the rate. In America specifically,

2:01:03 jails are the most dire.

2:01:05 The suicide rate there is nearly weighed three times higher than in prisons or the general public making

2:01:12 it the leading cause of death behind bars.

2:01:17 It has been written.

2:01:21 Being in prison sucks. Is that the

2:01:23 Yeah. It's not great for sure. I mean Oh, okay. Is it incorrect?

2:01:27 Just incorrected on that.

2:01:29 Alright. We'll continue with this woman. Probably the quick one of her too with Caitlin Collins, and this was great because she she wasn't finished yet, I think. She's more to say. To invest in mental health resources

2:01:42 in tackling the opioid in in opioid

2:01:45 epidemic.

2:01:46 Yeah. And I think that when we have a governor that believes in those things, we can achieve public safety.

2:01:52 Okay. I didn't hear a yes or a no there. We can believe in public safety. We can get it.

2:01:58 I thought trans kids were, you know Yeah. Were they were they were the ones killing themselves. The book of knowledge guy didn't say it was the highest suicide. No. He didn't. No. He didn't. Was kind of a kind of a hazy answer he gave. Don't don't call him book of knowledge guy. He gets a feeling. What's his name? I'm sorry. What was it? Book of knowledge. Just the book of knowledge.

2:02:16 Damn. I have I have to give you the book of I gotta give you the keys to the book of knowledge. You need that. You desperately need it. It's an important part of the show, man. People like, hey, man. Can I get access to that? You could sell it. There's another exit strategy. The Buzzkill download subscription only $99.99

2:02:34 a month. Sadly,

2:02:36 the only person with the right exit strategy was John C. Dvorak. What a way to go. Yep. The show was the same boom. Done. And I'm telling you that the message

2:02:46 that you had gotten from the very

2:02:49 complimentary lady in Colorado talking about the cat's cradle, I looked that up, and I was like, that's freaking weird, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I don't have that near me. I I what was it again? It was a celestial

2:03:02 thing that only happen with these four planets, like, every 10 Right. Thousand

2:03:09 And it represents,

2:03:11 like, a

2:03:12 new thing incoming,

2:03:14 an old thing outgoing. And the fact that it happened

2:03:17 on the day where you both had a grandchild born and JCD passed away was like the coincidences

2:03:24 is

2:03:26 was a little hard to ignore. I don't like I said, I don't believe that second half of show stuff most of the time, but that

2:03:33 was a little crazy.

2:03:35 When it's something that, like, happens once every 10,000.

2:03:40 Well, there's only one great show once every ten thousand years. So That's true. Yeah.

2:03:46 I kinda I kinda like doing the show with you guys.

2:03:49 That's kind of it kinda like takes two to replace JCD. That's not bad. That's true. Larry can be that grumpy, and I've got more of the tech, so it all kind of

2:03:59 There we go. Grumpy and tech. Uh-huh. There's the names.

2:04:04 Yeah.

2:04:05 But this is, Caitlin Collins with that same, go and I really hope this woman does not become governor of Wisconsin except for the fact that it would definitely be good for the show.

2:04:16 You know, you've talked about your past positions that he keeps highlighting and, you obviously

2:04:20 likely would continue to do so before November should you win. One thing that they brought up as well was a post from you in 2021,

2:04:30 where you said Americans should cancel Thanksgiving, should have done this in 1621.

2:04:35 The post has been deleted. Republicans have been highlighting it. Do you still believe that

2:04:40 Thanksgiving should be canceled?

2:04:44 I'm

2:04:45 a chef, and one of the first meals that I made Can you believe that? I'm a chef. That's the worst. Chef. Words

2:04:53 of her mouth. After do we should we get rid of Thanksgiving?

2:04:56 Well, I'm a chef.

2:04:58 I'm a chef. Yes. That was

2:05:01 for the community when I was 16 was a Thanksgiving meal.

2:05:05 Now, I always think my hospitality background and owning a restaurant for seven, eight years that bringing folks around the table

2:05:13 to share conversation

2:05:14 and build community is always a good thing.

2:05:18 But Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people in our communities. And so

2:05:24 Have you ever heard that before?

2:05:26 Incredibly painful.

2:05:28 Mean You know what the pain would be? Just having to sit next to her at any meal. That would be painful. I mean, I understand why people get, you know, melancholy around a lot of holidays

2:05:39 or, you know, people's birthdays and all that, but it's like Thanksgiving.

2:05:43 No. I don't really

2:05:46 feel much negativity around it.

2:05:48 I think there, I wanted to make sure that people understood that there are multiple views, but views can evolve. And the position that I'm running for right now, and I think my background as a chef, will actually help me become a better governor that's able to bring more people. Right on. Uh-huh. Yes, chef. Yes, chef. We're gonna bring everybody together and get rid of Thanksgiving though. So that's Definitely.

2:06:12 Perfect. Perfect.

2:06:14 Why not? Right? Hey, I want to do you mind if I if I do the donations here for a second? Because there's not a lot and that is obviously disappointing,

2:06:24 but I understand people you know, the one thing that really

2:06:29 stuck out

2:06:30 I have thousands

2:06:32 of emails.

2:06:34 Then I've I'm trying to think, I I don't know if I can even reply to everybody. I'd like to.

2:06:41 Just thousands of lovely notes. You know, I got one death threat, is pretty interesting.

2:06:47 Woah. Like a like a oh, yeah. Like a real one. Like, traitor, I'm coming to kill you. And you're a dead man. Like, okay, live in Texas.

2:06:56 Yeah. You have a few guns in the house. That's never I've never gotten a death threat. I don't think ever in my life. This is the first time.

2:07:04 But a lot of people and I and then we saw it in the donations of the two memorial shows we did. People say,

2:07:11 man, I feel so horrible because I never donated.

2:07:15 I never don't that was a laugh tell. Did you hear that? I never I never donated

2:07:20 and now I'm donating, but I feel horrible about it. And this is this not what John and I always talked about? It's like,

2:07:28 do you want to support something because things go away? And in this case, it's not that we didn't, you know, the show didn't change because you didn't donate.

2:07:37 But don't feel you don't I mean, come on. Yeah. Doesn't that tell you something? Like, you've gotta support I mean, I have a little

2:07:45 system,

2:07:46 a calendar reminder, the beginning of each month that says here's the open source stuff you're using,

2:07:52 like FFmpeg.

2:07:55 Remember to donate to them. And I do. You know, $50. Like, okay. Here you go. Because I use you a lot and I love all the volunteers who are working on the FFmpeg

2:08:06 to make it great. And they're under incredible strain now because, you know, all these AI systems are filing bug reports everywhere. But, you know, but you got you got to do it. And

2:08:16 and

2:08:17 you know what it is? You you you give something you give something away, it comes back tenfold.

2:08:22 I can tell you that's that's really true. Yeah. Use it as positive reinforcement. You still have time for the things you like to support them.

2:08:30 Yes. Yeah. It's not all that different from neglecting to vote. Exactly.

2:08:35 It's two sides of the same coin, brother.

2:08:38 Vote and support no agenda.

2:08:40 The exact same thing.

2:08:42 Hey, we wanna kick it off with our first

2:08:46 executive producer.

2:08:47 And I will I will read this because I love that the North Idaho Sanity Brigade from Post Falls, Idaho came in with $588.88.

2:08:57 That's a JCD donation if I ever saw one. And starts off with, in the morning, Laren and Derry.

2:09:03 Yeah. So we've

2:09:05 had multiple different combinations, and usually they were just what the JCD said at some point. I love it. I

2:09:11 love it. I love it. A few Benjamins in a row of eights in honor of John C. Dvorak, crowdfunded with love by the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.

2:09:20 We say Benjamins advisedly

2:09:22 as it is a Ben Franklin quote that encapsulates it all. Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Amen.

2:09:33 Thanks to you both for keeping No Agenda on the air while the Curries and Dvorak navigate these couple of weeks and beyond. It will be exciting to stay on this ride as we round the bend of whatever's coming next.

2:09:44 In the meantime, we've been plugging away with our hyper local version of No Agenda for the state of Idaho, the No ID podcast,

2:09:51 which I've heard is quite good. If you live in Idaho or Eastern Washington and you're curious what this format sounds like when it's tailored for a specific region, check us out at noidshow.com.

2:10:03 Cheers and godspeed, Gitmo Nation, sir Scott the Jew, and the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.

2:10:10 I'll I'll do all of these because it's very short list.

2:10:13 Zadock Brown, Parts Unknown, two hundred and ten dollars and sixty cents. We thank you. And of course,

2:10:20 there she is, the Rock.

2:10:22 Mhmm. And she's from Castle Rock, Colorado.

2:10:24 Linda Lupatkin,

2:10:26 or as Larry would say, Linda Lupatkin.

2:10:30 Did I say that? Have ever listened to the show, Larry? Ever? God. I can't believe I did that. There were some people ask you that. I love that. Especially, like, these guys guys have never listened to the show. Never listened to this show. Never once.

2:10:42 I'm like, you'll never live it you're never gonna live it down, bro. Never live it down. But I'll tell you what I did. I bought a much bigger monitor so I can see better. Oh, that helps. Yes. Because the spreadsheet it you've you've noticed what John was always complaining about. The spreadsheet blows out. Yes. I know. And if I can just let you know, I did vibe code already a Apple app that I drag the spreadsheet in, and it just spits it out in plain text. Mhmm.

2:11:06 That's the way to do it, man. Larry, what do you seem like a do you seem like a

2:11:11 not a Mac guy. Are you like Commodore 64 guy? Or

2:11:17 I would be if I knew how to work that. I

2:11:21 I I've always been I've never you know what? My first computer was

2:11:25 a Mac

2:11:26 and and then, you know, I thought, gee, this isn't that great.

2:11:30 And I just didn't.

2:11:32 And I forget what the hell the second one was. I've had a bunch of them since then, and now I have a little way of a Lenovo.

2:11:38 That's so you know, I'm not a I'm not a Mac guy.

2:11:40 Lenovo yeah. The ThinkPad. Lenovo ThinkPad? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those are good. I got one of those. Except I run Omarchy on it like a real man. Well, silly. I'll have to Linda Lupatkin comes in with $200 and she wants jobs karma and says, for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com.

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2:12:23 And that is our executive and associate executive producers. You will be credited, of course, and these credits are actual Hollywood credits. Larry knows all of it. You've got some Hollywood credits, don't you, Larry? I do. I do. I I created and

2:12:37 co produced a

2:12:39 primetime series for CBS.

2:12:41 What? What was that? Can you tell us? Sure. It was a reality

2:12:45 show. It was called Wickedly Perfect.

2:12:48 The original title was

2:12:51 Finding Martha

2:12:53 and it kind I of was actually on my way the next day to make a pitch somewhere

2:12:59 and my wife and I were watching television and Martha Stewart had just been jailed.

2:13:04 Oh, I remember that. Sure. Yeah. And so she said, Man, that'd make a hell of a show. I said, You know, you're right. And so I spent all night writing the pitch and the show Bible and everything.

2:13:13 And the next day,

2:13:15 boom, it was bought. Wow. You Pretty exciting. Were you a showrunner? Did you run it? Oh, not the showrunner. No. No. Not the showrunner. So got a created by credit? Created by credit and, some nice checks that didn't bounce. And, and the funny part was what they did was though they kind of I wanted it to be really crazy with like some ghetto fabulous chick like Missy Elliott or whatever

2:13:37 And at the

2:13:38 remember, CBS is about C And D Counties, you know? Yeah. And so they they sort of watered it down a lot and then they they changed the title because apparently

2:13:48 Les Moonves says, like this. I like this part Finding Martha Good. And then the lawyers got in room and said, Wait a minute, that must an We

2:13:56 can't do that. We might not want to do this. And so it became wickedly perfect, but it was it was fun. Fun ride. Yeah.

2:14:06 So executive and associate

2:14:08 executive producer and associate executive producer credits for these three people. I know we can do better than that, please. This is And and I want people to know that Larry and Darren are

2:14:19 getting paid for what they're doing. So they they participate in the Value4Value. We'd never just ask them to do it for free. They didn't ask for anything. I said, no, that's not how it's gonna work.

2:14:30 So you are supporting their work while they are here as well. And we thank you. For as long as they're here. And you never know how long they'll be here. I'm kind of feeling comfortable with you boys, to be honest about it.

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2:15:32 Thanks. Wow. You guys have already got stuff going here, man. Larry and Derry,

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2:16:49 Well, this will be short as well. Sir Raquelstin Crazy Steve the second wishes sir Rieschmeister a happy birthday celebrating

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2:17:14 Now, are you guys ready? Do we have any meetup reports? I didn't get any. Did you get any, Darren? No. I didn't. Report? Okay. Well, we'll do this. No Agenda

2:17:22 meetups.

2:17:25 It's not your holiday.

2:17:27 Yeah. No agendameetups.com.

2:17:29 This is a list. So I'm gonna go through this list because everybody decided to do

2:17:34 a meetup in honor of JCD this weekend. Actually,

2:17:38 we have the regularly Northern Wake totally regularly scheduled August meetup at 06:00 today at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina.

2:17:47 Tomorrow on the seventh, raise a pint for JCD 08:00. That'll be in London,

2:17:52 and you need to contact Robotic Exile for details. But please do that. We got a lot of people in London. Saturday, here we go. In honor of the great JCD, noon, Fool and Flagen in Hamilton, Ontario.

2:18:06 JCD Memorial Mid South, noon at High Cotton Brewing in Memphis, Tennessee. In memory of JCD twelve thirty at Delaware Park Casino, 3rd Floor Rooney's in Wilmington. That sounds like fun.

2:18:18 Copper Country

2:18:19 lunch to celebrate JCD, 02:00. Copper Range Depot family restaurant, Houghton, Michigan.

2:18:25 We drink and we know absent friends, 02:00, three BR distillery in Keyport, New Jersey.

2:18:32 Local five twelve five twelve Buzzkill Memorial, that of course is Baron Scott of the No Agenda Armory at Doc's Backyard in Sunset Valley, Austin, Texas. Wish I could go. I believe

2:18:44 my periodontist will be there.

2:18:46 Maverick, also known as Mitch, he's gonna show up. In memory of JCD, 02:00 in

2:18:53 Kalapuya

2:18:54 Kalapuya

2:18:55 Kalapuya

2:18:57 Brewing in Albany, Oregon. That's a great name.

2:19:00 Not a great band name. Treasure Idaho JCD Memorial, 03:00 at the Old State Saloon in Eagle, Idaho. Local seventy six salutes JCD, 03:00 Philadelphia Brewing Company in Philly.

2:19:14 Sonoma, Wino Country,

2:19:16 10:10.0,

2:19:17 03:33

2:19:18 Pacific, Mountain Mike's in Santa Rosa.

2:19:21 ITM South Florida, 03:33. This is the Andrew Horowitz meetup, and I'll be sending in a video for everybody. It'll be at the Beach House Las Olas in Fort Lauderdale. Go go give Andrew a hug. Good luck and godspeed, JCD. 04:00 at Sound to Summit Brewing in Snohomish, Washington. Farewell to John, 05:30 at Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio.

2:19:42 Remembering JCD, 06:00 at Blair's All Sports Bar and Grill in Springfield, Missouri. Celebration of JCD's life, 06:00 on the Half Shell Oyster Bar in Prairieville, Louisiana.

2:19:54 C. M. Siam's

2:19:55 Soiree in honor of JCD, 06:30. That is going to be in,

2:20:01 is that it's O'Shea's Irish pub, Sukhumvit?

2:20:05 Sukhumvit?

2:20:07 Is that where is that? Is that India?

2:20:10 Maybe it's Indo Oh, no. Shine time it says. That is a word I have not seen. Indo Look up Sukhumvit. Look up Sukhumvit for me, will you? That's sir Richard of Kawarthas.

2:20:20 I have no idea where that is. Oh, Shay's Irish pub. That's that's in

2:20:25 Bangalore. Wow. That's the best part.

2:20:29 JCD celebration of live 06:30, and that is at Gage Road Fremantle Brewery in Perth in Fremantle, Western Australia.

2:20:37 It is in Bangkok, Thailand.

2:20:39 It is Thailand? Okay. Oh, the lady boys celebrating JCD. Love it.

2:20:44 August 9, ITM Virginia, and thank you for your courage. JCD one thirty at Gloucester Brewing in Gloucester, Virginia.

2:20:52 WWJCDD,

2:20:55 what would John C. Dvorak do? 05:00 on Sunday at Fox and the Hound in Langley Township, British Columbia, Scandinavia.

2:21:02 ITM, JCD, Rest in Power, 06:00

2:21:05 at Grape and Hop in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. So two going on this weekend there. And also on Sunday, the Amsterdam JCD mem memorial memory,

2:21:16 06:30 at bar restaurant

2:21:19 Lely in Amsterdam.

2:21:21 Still to come in the month of August. This look at this is a crazy list. The fourteenth, Queens, New York and Wauwatosa,

2:21:29 Wisconsin, Tbilisi,

2:21:31 Georgia, that is in the country, the South Caucus Region.

2:21:34 August 15, Riverside, California, Oakland, California, Yukon, Oklahoma,

2:21:39 the sixteenth, Dubuque, Iowa, Norwood, Massachusetts, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania,

2:21:44 Vancouver, British Columbia, the twentieth, Charlotte, North Carolina, twenty second, Chattanooga, Tennessee, the twenty third, Indianapolis, Indiana, Benton, Arkansas on the twenty third, the twenty ninth, Rhode Island, and also on the twenty ninth, Zurich, Switzerland.

2:21:57 Many, many, many more can be oh, I have the thirtieth. There's still wait. There's more. Chester Springs, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, that's on the thirtieth. It's out of sequence. Rhode Island on the twenty ninth, Chester Springs, Nebraska on the thirtieth, and then we're into September, October, November. It just keeps on going. No Agenda meetups.

2:22:15 I hope we'll never stop. I think that they're a great

2:22:18 legacy

2:22:19 of the show. You can still bring heads on sticks,

2:22:23 But we expect meetup reports and this should be just a whole bunch of them. Send them to me, adamccurry dot com, and, you know, just record it on your phone. I'll edit them all. Don't worry about it.

2:22:35 If you can edit it, that's even better.

2:22:39 Try try and do your best actually with pre editing. It really does help now that I think about it. Don't you have an AI for that yet? Come on. I probably could set that up now that I think about it.

2:22:50 And we'll see if I can get all of those done by by Sunday, otherwise,

2:22:55 Thursday. And just thank you all for organizing this. You know, the the Dvorak family and and I and

2:23:02 Horace, we all talked about, you know, there's a memorial for him in in Oakland. By the way, I'll I'll tell you one thing.

2:23:10 There's something John used to do whenever he went into a hotel lobby or a bar anywhere.

2:23:16 And if there was a piano player, he would always ask the piano player to play Stairway to Heaven. So

2:23:24 there's going to be a piano player playing Stairway to Heaven,

2:23:28 is kind of the sick humor of the Dvorak. You gotta love them for that.

2:23:35 Was I?

2:23:37 Anyway, whatever I was saying. Oh, yeah. That that we were talking about a we wanted to have a like a community meetup and, you know, like, this is so complicated,

2:23:46 you know. We couldn't even ever get a big meetup together. You know, we we talked about the Sphere in Vegas and, you know, all kinds of venues where people could get to easily.

2:23:55 This is the way I expected No Agenda Nation to go. Do it locally.

2:24:00 Do it with your people,

2:24:02 and don't let it be the last time. This should be just the beginning, just the first of many more No Agenda meetups. Go to noagendameetups.com.

2:24:10 You can find the entire list. Thank you, sir Daniel, for all the work that you have done. And if you can't find one near you, it's easy to start one yourself. Noagendameetups.com.

2:24:39 Can I, can I drop off here? Because I got a guy coming here to pick up my dog at 03:30 exactly and I gotta make sure that my you know, I gotta kiss my dog goodbye because I love my Sounds

2:24:50 good. And I'll talk to you guys Sunday. Thank you. Thank you, Adam. No. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Treat these guys with respect. They're awesome. Love you, mean it. No homo.

2:25:01 Exact well, howdy. That's the way to leave a show right there. That's perfect. You don't top that. And, yeah, all those meetups, I can't wait to hear those meetup reports. It should be entertaining

2:25:14 the, the JCD stories. We want to hear them, but, yeah, just do a little editing. It's nice. I took my,

2:25:21 portable Zoom recorder out to our meetup, and,

2:25:25 it makes it a lot easier. But if it's on a phone

2:25:28 Mhmm. You can still make it sound. Sure. Those are great. I got one of those. It's an ICE unit.

2:25:34 And I do have did you we have to start getting you to bring some ISOs as well for the end of show, but Yeah. I do have a couple that were, sent in here, including this one because in honor JCD loved the the

2:25:49 text to speech Trump and Obama.

2:25:52 So They are shrinking the amygdaless.

2:25:56 Donate.

2:25:57 Kind

2:25:58 of,

2:25:59 kind of a long pause in there. Was okay Trump though. It was a good very good Trump, I thought.

2:26:05 And, this one from the, AI menu bot. Sorry. Did I make a mistake? Try saying add or remove.

2:26:12 Which Good. I mean, that's that's the world that you now are going to be living in. Anytime you want to try

2:26:19 to go and order a, you know, a frosty or something, that's that's what you're gonna They

2:26:25 much less synthetic than she did, I gotta say. There's there's some that are getting better, some that are getting worse.

2:26:32 But I think for

2:26:34 today's show, I wanna honor the late great J. C. D. And try this one. Oh, you cheap bastard.

2:26:41 I mean, I think that Yeah. That's good. I think that pretty much is donate. Donate. I think it was my buddy No Beret who

2:26:49 is always trolling along when we were doing Planet Rage. He's like, oh, you you gotta you gotta complain about the donations. Otherwise,

2:26:57 you're not doing JCD. Right? So maybe.

2:27:00 Yeah. Maybe he's got a little bit of a,

2:27:04 of a point there. I'm not gonna say

2:27:06 that he is wrong. And, oh, what we didn't do earlier either

2:27:10 was the troll count. So right now, seven well, seven thirty three

2:27:16 with the peak of 850.

2:27:19 And, yeah, they they ran. Choke out. Fifteen twenty.

2:27:26 They're

2:27:26 not they're not happy unless they hear the the

2:27:30 drops. That's for darn sure. Did you have anything else that you wanted to cover on today's show? I think that kicks it in the head, Darren. Yeah. Wait. Is that a is that a good kick in the head, or is that a

2:27:43 That is a,

2:27:44 a recognition of a New York talk radio legend named Bob Grant. He used to end every show like that. That kicks it in the head for another day. Yeah.

2:27:53 Well, that makes sense. So Yeah.

2:27:56 That is going to do it for another

2:27:59 edition of the best damn podcast in the universe. Coming up next on the Mighty No Agenda stream,

2:28:06 the MMO show. Oh, that there always wonder what that MMO stands for. The Millennial Media

2:28:13 Offensive

2:28:15 episode number 230.

2:28:19 We do have some end of show mixes coming up

2:28:23 from let's see. Oh, the great

2:28:26 sir Chris Wilson. And then now if I don't say it's the great big Steve Stones, he's not gonna be

2:28:31 happy. So we got a couple of those, which is good. We haven't didn't have one last time, and I had to play the

2:28:38 Wind of Orax chair gently squeaks, and, you know, there's only so much of that that people can handle.

2:28:45 So coming to you from just outside of Chirac right here in FEMA region number five in the morning everybody. I am Darren O'Neill.

2:28:54 And from the pretentious Connecticut shore,

2:28:57 I'm Larry Blybler.

2:28:59 We will be back here on Sunday. Remember us at noagendadonations.com.

2:29:05 Until then, hooey hooey. Thank you for your courage. Adios,

2:29:09 mofos,

2:29:10 and such,

2:29:12 and,

2:29:13 donate. What more do you need to know? Do it. You see that?

2:29:18 Yeah.

2:29:19 That's shit.

2:29:20 And

2:29:22 this?

2:29:24 Shinola.

2:29:25 Shit? Shinola.

2:29:28 Then you're gonna be alright. Be alright. Be alright. Be alright. Alright. Be

2:29:33 alright. Be alright.

2:29:35 Be

2:29:44 alright.

2:29:47 I cut it back. I can't help myself.

2:29:50 Shit.

2:29:51 Kids are crying.

2:29:53 I thought it was horrible.

2:29:55 No. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say it. I I would say that I was gonna say it and say it, but I'm not gonna say it until I have to say it.

2:30:02 That's bullshit.

2:30:03 It's unreal. You said bullshit again.

2:30:07 You know, that's the difference between you and me. I asked you to stop saying shit.

2:30:12 Hey. No. I'm gonna say it more.

2:30:16 This is, like, bullshit.

2:30:18 Hey. You're saying bullshit, man. He's back.

2:30:21 That's the third time. That's your third that's your My third shit. Okay. Today. Alright. Okay. Pay attention, though.

2:30:29 It's bullshit. You have a few

2:30:31 bullshits left in your quota.

2:30:33 Shit.

2:30:34 I have reached my quota.

2:30:36 Bullcrap.

2:30:40 I like, I I can't see any way to really stop this

2:30:44 incredible

2:30:45 momentum

2:30:46 of AI and robots.

2:30:48 And and at times I sort of think well perhaps you know we're even if there was a stop button we probably shouldn't press it.

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2:31:16 No need

2:31:17 for blue sky.

2:31:22 Imagine

2:31:24 all the people

2:31:28 canceled

2:31:30 from today.

2:31:35 Imagine

2:31:36 there's no Tesla.

2:31:42 It isn't hard

2:31:44 to do.

2:31:48 No self driving cars

2:31:50 catching on fire.

2:31:54 No self immolating.

2:31:57 Wants to

2:32:01 imagine

2:32:02 all the people

2:32:07 driving

2:32:09 normal

2:32:09 cars.

2:32:14 Well, you may say

2:32:16 I'm a douchebag.

2:32:20 Yeah.

2:32:21 But I'm not the only one.

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2:33:58 Oh, you cheap bastard.