Fever Concerns

0:02 It's the No Agenda show

0:05 with your hosts, Darren O'Neill and Larry Blydner.

0:11 In the morning. It's Thursday, 08/13/2026.

0:15 This is your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode eighteen ninety four, and we are broadcasting live from just outside of Chirac.

0:23 Don't need a rain stick in FEMA region number five in the morning, everybody. I am Darren O'Neill.

0:29 And from the pretentious Connecticut Shore, I'm Larry Blydner keeping commies and creeps at bay with my scimitar of truth.

0:37 It's Darren and Larry. In the morning.

0:41 Yeah. Thanks to Jess Baker for that intro. I think we need maybe a little longer.

0:46 Yeah. Maybe a little more underpinning for

0:48 A little. Spot. But I like it. The guy the voice sounds like some cyborg from Battlestar Galactica.

0:54 It's like it may be did James Earl Jones do any voices for the Batman? I know he did Darth Vader, but there was Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Might have. He was a busy guy. It has that vibe to it. Yeah. You get that vibe. Best as Thulsa Doom.

1:08 Oh. Conan.

1:09 Yeah. But the Podfather was very clear. Gotta get rid of that faking gay intro.

1:15 So we're gonna be trying out a few, and Jess Baker came in with the best. All I can say, if you can extend that a little bit, Jess. Yeah. Give us a little more music at the end there.

1:26 Let's just reverse it and make ours gay and fake. Right. How about that? It's a whole new way to go. Yeah.

1:32 But I'm happy to be here because, again, the weather tried to take me out on Monday. Or was that Monday, Tuesday? Yeah.

1:39 How were the were you the power outages or or no? Luckily, no. Our power stayed on. Most of the town around

1:47 us seems to be out, which is a kind of interesting.

1:53 But it all depends on which trees that didn't fall down in the earlier storms.

1:58 Sure. Look at the draw. Because this was a derecho.

2:02 I mean, max velocity. That's a word I learned from him. A derecho show came down

2:07 from

2:08 Iowa

2:09 into

2:10 the Chicago area,

2:13 and,

2:13 basically, that just means a hurricane

2:16 that is inland more or less, that type of wind, straight line winds

2:21 rather than the swirling that you get with

2:25 a tornado. Although we also had a

2:28 tornado.

2:29 So that started,

2:30 like, maybe a mile from north of here and went

2:34 couple miles to the east,

2:38 and they said that was about 300 yards wide and just cut a nice sloth

2:43 through. Oh, slicer. 300 yards. It's nothing in SkyTalk.

2:47 I know. It's like, woah. It was one of the it was probably the

2:52 worst

2:53 sounding storm. Because, usually, you know, the things go off,

2:57 you know, bad thunderstorm,

3:00 tornado, whatever it is. Okay. You'll kind of

3:03 meander downstairs

3:05 if you have to, usually not into the basement. This one was like, okay. Go into the basement.

3:10 Now is that derecho, d e r e c h o? Yes.

3:14 That's Spanish for right. See, get it. They're coming for So

3:19 is it depending on was it headed, let's see, to the east? Is that one because it would be the better word. Well,

3:25 not necessarily better. The left hand thing is it's a cookie word. Uh-huh.

3:30 But it sound I mean, but people say I mean, I don't think a tornado went right over us, but it was a

3:37 the sound of the storm was fairly interesting.

3:40 And, luckily, the power just went off and on a few times

3:44 quickly.

3:45 Just to scare you. Little flickering. Pretty much, but it's been weird. ComEd, they've had multiple storms here in Illinois,

3:52 but I'm blaming again the infrastructure because we all know what's going on with the infrastructure.

3:58 Yes. We do.

4:00 And when the power goes out now, it's not well and I get it. These are really big storms. That's

4:06 a record I didn't wanna take from

4:08 Adam's home state there of Texas who had the most tornadoes in a season ever. Now Illinois has that record this year. Wow.

4:16 Impressive. So finally I know. We finally got something.

4:20 Besides the creepiest politicians. Oh, I'm telling you, the bears are gonna be I think they were gonna announce that today, and part of the deal with the money

4:29 that is going to subsidize this

4:33 is

4:34 changing the name. Indiana's gonna be in the name. So Chicagoans

4:39 are not gonna be very happy

4:41 Yeah. With these politicians

4:44 for letting their football team go. Sports ball.

4:48 Yeah. So but they expand their their their

4:52 league

4:54 or whatever their distance. So they went from being a city franchise to a state franchise. Now it's gonna be the Indiana bears. Is that is that what They said Indiana was gonna be in the name. I haven't seen the yeah. I mean, I'm assuming that's what it'll be.

5:08 Mhmm. It'll probably be closer to here, so it's kinda nice. I mean, if you really wanted to go to see football games, but

5:15 not usually where I'm heading out.

5:18 Yeah.

5:19 Yeah. Maybe you'll move. If I wanna get out, you say goodbye to Pritzker. Just move over the border to Indiana, although their weather has been obviously just as bad because it's walking distance from here. Yeah. Yeah. But that's not to say there's not of a lot insane things going on

5:36 in the world.

5:38 And we've got them all for you. I tell you. And the coverage here, why don't we start with the the Fauci phone? I see you've got the

5:47 the

5:49 senator Johnson.

5:50 And this, he was on the Clay and Buck,

5:52 and I'm sure he was everywhere.

5:55 But this

5:56 the information coming out now

5:59 is

6:01 beyond the pale

6:02 as Joe Biden would say. Is there any setup on your clip where we can jump into?

6:07 On Ron Johnson? Yeah. No. You could, leap right in there. Sure.

6:11 Doctor. Fauci writes, I asked around a bit more and another issue came up that you need to be aware of, period.

6:18 Since many people have significant cytokine storm

6:22 and fever after the second dose,

6:24 this theoretically could be associated with miscarriage

6:28 in the first trimester.

6:30 Theoretically.

6:31 Only just theoretically. Theoretically. Yes. And all we heard

6:35 from public officials is that this was perfectly safe for pregnancy. Let let me go on a little bit more.

6:41 In June

6:42 2021,

6:44 Tom Sheerbo Curry, who's the man in charge of safety surveillance systems for CDC,

6:48 published a grossly

6:50 misleading paper in the New England Journal of Medicine where they they looked at eight hundred twenty seven

6:57 confirmed pregnancies.

6:59 Seven hundred of those pregnancies, the the women got their COVID injection in the third trimester after twenty eight weeks.

7:07 Of those eight hundred and twenty seven,

7:09 one hundred and four

7:11 suffered a spontaneous abortion or miscarriage.

7:15 The problem with those stats is they took the hundred and four

7:18 divided by eight twenty seven, came up with a miscarriage rate of twelve point six percent,

7:24 which is about four times the rate of normal

7:27 miscarriage rate on a confirmed pregnancy.

7:29 But here's what they did that was so grossly misleading.

7:33 Seven hundred of those women got their injection in the third trimester.

7:37 A miscarriage is is or spontaneous abortion is defined as anything up to twenty weeks.

7:43 So the relevant denomination had been a hundred and four miscarriages

7:47 divided by one hundred twenty seven,

7:49 which puts a miscarriage rate at eighty two percent.

7:53 So Anthony Fauci knew about potential cytokine storms impacting the first trimester in miscarriages,

8:00 told no one about it because it'd create vaccine hesitancy.

8:04 There you go. Yeah. Those are stats that are

8:09 those are hard to

8:10 ignore when you're going up from a very small number because you were including

8:15 all pregnancies in it. You'll now you're like, well, if you were just looking at the first trimester and the

8:21 pregnant women I'm sorry. Pregnant people. Right? Should have been person. Yes. Yes. Warned that

8:28 this is a dangerous

8:30 thing

8:31 to take within Yep. The first trimester,

8:35 yet

8:36 they were so afraid

8:38 that this would cause vaccine hesitancy

8:42 among everybody

8:44 Mhmm. That they withheld

8:47 that information.

8:48 Oh, yeah. You know, I happened to

8:51 flip through a something I saw. Was it Netflix? Whatever. It was called Get Gotti. Right?

8:56 And it was a a show just about how how, like, thousands of cops from many different agencies

9:02 tried to to nail that guy for And I was still living in New York back then and he was a a big personality.

9:08 In the news they called him the Teflon Don and so forth.

9:11 And finally, mean, the the And the funny part was there was the FBI, the organized crime task course, the NYPD,

9:18 and and they were so intent on getting gaudy that they were screwing each other, not giving intel. It would have been vital to help them. Yeah. Because they wanna be the one, I got gaudy. Right? Anyway,

9:29 if you think about that guy, he's running the Gambino crime family.

9:33 He did it for maybe five or six years. And all that time, if he had a 100 guys

9:38 clipped, that would be a lot. Right? Probably probably less than that. Maybe even 200. But just considering that, most of them were fellow murderers and horrible criminals. So in in some way, he was maybe doing a little bit of a public service. Right. Okay. Really. But they were intent on getting this guy because they could, you know, file their nails and say look how cool I am. How many people did Fauci kill? I mean, has anybody come up with a number for that? With his lies and the way he misdirected everything?

10:08 But he will never do a split second in jail. In fact, look at look at the old lady. She's flipping the bird to

10:15 the m five m's m five m's cameras now. That's because he kinda knows he's

10:20 impervious to prosecution.

10:22 It's really it's really frustrating, isn't it? Oh, yeah. He has the Biden pardon,

10:27 and it's even worse is that the people that are backing him this is a clip from

10:34 CBS Evening News talking to doctor Serena

10:37 Chen.

10:38 And

10:39 they're gonna go down that this was

10:42 still the right thing to do. I know. It's insane. To talk about this and the state of the science today, have doctor Serena Chen, an OBGYN

10:50 and director of advocacy

10:52 at CCRM

10:54 Fertility of New Jersey. Doctor Chen, thank you very much for joining us.

10:58 Doctor Fauci has declined to comment on these messages. When you read them, what do you make of it?

11:03 So no. He he no. You're kidding. Did he really I would like to take my fifth amendment rights to not say

11:10 about anything about anyone. Ever.

11:13 So did you expect him to? No. He's never going to. And it's just really

11:19 it's

11:20 disgusting,

11:21 and that is the right word, and I think it was the one that senator Johnson used.

11:25 Because you see these comments privately

11:29 discussing this,

11:31 but they didn't make that public. It's like, understand

11:36 both sides of that story, but there would have been an easy enough way to say, hey. Well, if you're pregnant in the first twelve weeks, be be very

11:44 cautious.

11:46 But no.

11:47 Read them. What do you make of it? And there's your best journalist question right there. There you go. What do what do you make of it?

11:54 Just when you read them, what do you make of it? So I see somebody who is an expert, a global expert in infectious diseases looking at data and having a conversation with other expert colleagues about what is going on. He's got to make a big decision and he has to look at everything and

12:11 perfectly reasonable

12:13 to look at possible concerns.

12:15 Ultimately though when you look at the data the risks and the benefits were really clear at the time.

12:22 Yeah. They were really clear at the time that if you were in your first trimester, there was an eighty four percent chance your baby was going to die if you took the vaccine.

12:31 Yeah.

12:33 That part was clear. No. No. She's

12:36 telling you no. No. That was clear that the vaccine was more helpful. It's like,

12:40 no. Not to pregnant women.

12:43 At the same time, it violated

12:45 conventional

12:46 rules to pregnancy and vaccines that were in place for decades and decades, which was you get a baby in the oven, no vaccines for you. Just don't do it. Unless it's something absolutely horrific. You know, Ebola or you know, smallpox.

12:59 But this, let's face it, this was a a powerful flu, you know, and a reasonably healthy woman could be considered to survive it. So very very evil stuff.

13:08 Risks and the benefits were really clear at the time. The reason people react to this is because there appears to be this gap between what's being said in private with all this uncertainty and doubt and then what's being said in public.

13:23 How do you read that?

13:25 I think that that what

13:27 he said in public ultimately

13:30 obviously is the right thing. This is our recommendation today that Wow. Pregnant women I know. Did I hear that correctly?

13:38 Yes. Knowing everything we know now,

13:42 we would still stick a woman in the first trimester with an mRNA vaccine knowing

13:49 there is,

13:50 what, eighty four percent chance that the baby's not gonna make it because you know, we believe the science. Well, you're not listening to the science, madam.

14:00 What he said in public ultimately,

14:03 obviously, is the right thing. This is our recommendation today

14:07 that all pregnant women should get the COVID vaccine every year and the flu vaccine because we still know,

14:14 as he knew then,

14:15 that the risks of COVID are so much higher than the vaccine

14:21 even though there may have been some concerns about fever.

14:25 Some concerns? Some concerns about fever. Wow.

14:29 Can we can we maybe have her on as a guest, Darren? I think we, you know, we could teach her a thing or three,

14:35 maybe. Wouldn't that be fun? If this data is correct or anywhere near correct,

14:41 eighty four percent

14:43 of women having a miscarriage

14:46 and she is gonna say this all comes down to,

14:49 well, there were concerns about fever.

14:52 Yeah.

14:53 It's absolutely

14:55 unbelievable

14:56 that people are still hanging

14:58 to that narrative

15:00 the way that they are. I mean, it it makes zero

15:03 sense. Somebody must be puppeteering her, you know, Pfizer or some whatever. You know, this this can't be

15:09 it's just it's preposterous what she's saying. Absolutely preposterous.

15:12 So there's there must be something else. There's another layer here we're not seeing.

15:16 Well, they're probably all afraid now that, Donald Trump is, cutting down the amount of childhood vaccines.

15:23 And that's a great thing. Yes. It is. Welcome back. The president signing a new executive order calling for fewer vaccines for children. Anika Kim Constantino has details on that EO yesterday. Morning, Anika. Morning, Carl. This is president Trump's latest move to reshape how Americans vaccinate their children.

15:41 The executive order directs the federal government to cut the number of childhood vaccines recommended for all children from 18 to 11 and split the MMR vaccine into three separate shots spaced out across multiple doctor's visits. And the shots no longer recommended for all children, such as the ones for hepatitis a and b, are advised for certain high risk groups, and a few will be based on consultation with a doctor. But it's important to note here that this does not ban any vaccines on the market. States still set their own school vaccination requirements,

16:11 and the administration says shots will stay available to families and covered by insurance.

16:16 But pediatricians still have huge concerns here. Doctors say the administration has not provided new evidence justifying the changes and is repeating debunk claims linking vaccines to autism.

16:27 And the fear here is that this rhetoric and new guidance will confuse parents and make some of them hold off on getting their children vaccinated.

16:34 And this all comes at a time where we're seeing record measles cases in The US and declining vaccination rates. Yeah. It's all debunked. It's all Yeah. Have you ever heard the media cover anything straight lately? No. No. I mean, these people are awful.

16:47 They really are. And it's like rather than reporting the story and saying, well, this side says this. This side says this.

16:55 It's

16:56 unbelievable.

16:57 Now what's the subtext there? Parents are stupid. They're gonna be confused. They can't understand anything. We'll tell them what to do. You know, one of those she didn't get mentioned this one. I I heard an ad, was it on television or the radio,

17:10 Recommending now HPV,

17:12 which is you know, a sexually transmitted

17:14 thing.

17:16 It used to be they were plugging it for 12 year olds and above. Now, nine year old. If you get a nine year old kid, so how many how many nine year olds are sexually active and what's wrong with that? These people are dement no. No. They're evil. They're just goddamn evil. They really are. Well, it is. It's about having complete control.

17:34 Yeah. We've talked about it how in California, Illinois, and other places, you can't even get your child's medical records

17:42 No. You cannot. Without their permission once I don't know if it 12. 12 years of age. 12 years of age. They'll decide what's right for them, not you. Then why aren't the 12 year olds voting? Oh, wait. They're gonna want that soon too. Oh, yeah. That's

17:55 definitely, it's coming. Yes. No doubt about it. But listen here. This is CNBC,

18:00 and just see how vehement they are about everything Donald Trump mentions

18:04 is, you know, unfounded. It has been debunked.

18:09 Yeah. There were some head scratching on the fact that I don't think there was a actually a medical doctor in the oval during that announcement. And then this There was no medical doctor in the oval, Larry. In the oval. Yeah. In the oval. I mean, when since like an insider in the oval. Right. When do we not say Oval Office?

18:26 Yeah. It's nope. But there was no medical doctor in the Oval because, you know, one has to be standing really,

18:33 this is

18:34 the left.

18:35 If you don't have somebody

18:38 standing behind the president

18:40 wearing the white coat,

18:42 well, then it's not believable.

18:44 And let's not forget, they they they failed to mention the fact that Tony Fauci

18:50 was never a practicing physician. So how much of an expert is he really? Not much. He's America's doctor.

18:58 Yeah. But he never he never like, you know, used a tongue depressor or Well, he might have used it for something.

19:03 Maybe. Yeah. There was a actually, a medical doctor in the Oval during that announcement. And then this notion from the president that some vaccines are the size of a soda bottle that kinda raised some eyebrows too.

19:16 Yeah. That's a great point to bring up, Carl. And when I talk to pediatricians and other experts, they always reiterate the fact that there's no scientific basis or rationale for any of the changes that were made, and a lot of the actual claims that Trump was making during his speech yesterday

19:30 are, you know, really debunked here, and there's decades of evidence kind of supporting the opposite of that. So a lot of what we heard yesterday, again, there is no scientific basis there. This has to all be Pfizer financed.

19:43 It just has to be. Who else would would profit from this? It is

19:48 amazing,

19:49 really,

19:50 that this is a news report on CNBC,

19:55 and they are totally ignoring the fact that

19:58 there are

19:59 plenty of cases of anecdotal evidence. And I understand

20:04 that is not proof.

20:06 With that said,

20:07 when you're doing something like Trump is, in this case,

20:11 he's taking the, what's it, measles, mumps, and rubella

20:15 vaccinations,

20:16 which are normally given

20:18 at one time,

20:20 And the recommendation

20:21 now

20:22 is to spread those out each by a year, where if you do them that way,

20:28 there seems to be

20:30 no problem well, less problems with side effects. Never say no problems with side effects No. No.

20:36 When it comes to

20:38 anything medical.

20:40 But you know, the foundation

20:42 I'm sorry. Go ahead. Why is that such a problem to the left to go, well, you know what? We think maybe having these three together

20:50 has caused an uptick in autism, and they're gonna tap dance all the way to the bank

20:56 to try to explain why autism rates have gone through the roof.

21:01 You know? But And at the same time, they're lying about the fan foundational evidence.

21:06 You know, they they've blown measles up to be,

21:09 you know, equal to to Ebola, or some horribly fatal ailment. It's not, and it never was. And they've inflated all their research,

21:18 you know. It's a it's a complete lie. I mean, I had measles when I was a kid, there was no no vaccine for it then. And you know, you get some spots on your face and you feel crappy for a couple of days, and you were good to go. Nobody I don't remember anybody ever getting seriously ill, and certainly there were no deaths from measles as kids. But now, it's

21:36 whole you know what the whole thing is?

21:38 Basically, they want Americans if anything bothers you, from a hangnail to you just kinda feel gloomy, take a pill, get a shot. That's the answer. It's all in chemistry. Really. That's And the with that, it's control.

21:51 Yes. Because they control who gets the shot and who has access to it or what you're going to have to pay for it.

21:58 But in this case, I there I don't think anybody can deny

22:02 that for some reason

22:05 autism

22:06 has gone through the roof and this is

22:09 a an attempt

22:12 with very little downside except for the fact

22:16 and that's hilarious to me that the left says, well, this just means parents are gonna have to take their kids to the doctors more. It's like, I'm sorry. Your kids should be going to the doctor once a year anyway for a checkup

22:26 when they're young. You know? It's like that's just If they're over 12, they'll decide, Darren.

22:32 Right. But the vaccines are way before then.

22:34 Yeah. But it's like some Well, they keep pumping them after that. They keep pumping them after that. Of course they do. 12. Yeah. Yep. And they figure out how they can get more money and which pills they're gonna give them, and somebody will walk in and say, hey. Tell me about Jardians.

22:48 Yeah.

22:49 It is just insanity,

22:51 and it's sad that this is where we have gotten.

22:54 And it's sad that we have a news media that seems to be more beholden to

23:00 the advertiser

23:01 dollar than,

23:02 you know, producing a story? Because in this case, this is the least

23:06 think about it. Think if there was actually some Trump was saying stop a certain drug.

23:11 Mhmm. He's not. He's saying just separate these into three so that way there's less of a chance of an interaction, and they're going nuts.

23:19 Sure. Stay out of our stay out of our sandbox. It's ours. You're not invited, Trump.

23:24 But, know, there's a kind of a lighter side to the

23:27 COVID Fauci mess. I have something here from Naomi Wolf. Do you have that one handy?

23:33 Yeah. You go to a city like New York or Boston or LA, and there's, like, a missing vibe,

23:41 you know, since people have suffered

23:43 this mass injection,

23:45 and New York City is overwhelmingly

23:48 mRNA injected,

23:49 and I went there and I just felt like something's missing. It is like a zombie apocalypse. It's like Yeah. Where's the human energy?

23:57 Where's that energy of

23:59 people

24:00 kind of

24:01 grooving off of each other, like Yes. Off of each other? And if you think about what the lipid nanoparticles

24:09 are

24:10 that could explain this kind of weird zombie like quality

24:15 that

24:16 human beings who had these mRNA injections

24:19 Stop. Sort of exhibit. Stop. But there's zombies now? Oh, listen. Listen. Before we get to the zombie aspect,

24:26 notice her vocabulary.

24:28 This woman is very smart.

24:30 Right? Did you notice her use the word vaccine?

24:35 Did she? I don't think she did. No. No, she didn't. She chose the correct word,

24:40 injections.

24:41 It was never a vaccine,

24:43 not even for a nanosecond.

24:45 A complete fraudulent lie.

24:48 Right? And you know, as I'm always braying about, the left the left the left, they must they must change the vocabulary to their thing. So you know what? I'm not gonna call it a vaccine anymore. She's right. It's an injection and never say progressive. That's that's that's camouflage for commie.

25:03 Okay? A COVID migrant?

25:06 No. It's an illegal alien. Right? Gender? No. Sex was a a just a perfect word for it until a sick pedo who should have been parboiled named John Money

25:15 came up with calling peep know, people sexuality

25:18 gender. It's b s. Hate speech? There's no such thing, you know. When you use their words, they win. And I really got to applaud this chick for calling those injections.

25:28 That's all they were.

25:30 Spleen is kind of weird

25:33 zombie like quality

25:35 that

25:36 human beings who had these mRNA injections

25:40 sort of exhibit and that sense of like

25:42 loss of

25:44 allure, loss of connection,

25:46 loss of magnetism.

25:49 Interesting. It's

25:51 fascinating. And you know what? As I heard this, thought, wow, you know, I I grew up in New York

25:55 And you know, in my heyday,

25:57 I could walk 10

25:59 blocks,

26:00 and at the end of that, this would be in lunchtime or afternoon rush hour, I might have collected

26:06 one or two phone numbers.

26:08 Two they might have actually been to, you know, real real women's homes, not the not the dog pound. How dare you interact with people face to Yeah.

26:17 And I mean, New New York was absolutely

26:19 there there was she's not kidding. It had a vibe of people who wanted to connect. It was everywhere. On buses, in the subway, in restaurants. There was always kind of a crackle

26:28 of people

26:30 trying to connect, you know. And I was I visited for the first time in ten years, a few months ago, and I was trying to figure out what's what's wrong. There's I

26:40 the the word zombie crossed my mind. People

26:43 people in New York used to they they didn't walk. They trotted everywhere. They're really fast walkers. That's gone. They're just kinda loping along, you know, nice and slow. And you go to a saloon or a restaurant, you look around, and they're all kind of in slow motion. And that's not the way it was before.

26:59 And I'm sure she's correct that ninety nine percent of them took the injection,

27:03 and she had a much larger

27:06 piece to say about how

27:08 these nanoparticles

27:10 have affected,

27:11 deleteriously,

27:12 people's

27:13 genitals. You know, really

27:15 bad things she says have happened because of them. How much of that is correct? I I don't know. But I I could corroborate her theory on the zombification

27:23 of the New York populace.

27:26 A lot less people getting laid in New York. Exactly. Birth rates have plummeted, t cells are in the toilet. You know, it kinda makes sense.

27:33 Well, then you see that the younger generation isn't really into dating and that they just wanna sit on their phone, and you mix all these things together.

27:42 You're you're totally correct. The the phone is a huge, maybe the biggest factor. Yes. Then you're gonna have a whole new

27:49 generation

27:51 in The United States and in the civilized

27:54 world where the,

27:55 the Chinese, they don't let their kids sit on the phone all day. No. They don't.

28:00 They're not using the one child birth rate anymore per couple. So they're gonna be

28:05 they're gonna be pushing that. But the

28:08 clip collector sent me this, and Oh. It kinda works here. This is the Morning Joe response

28:14 to

28:15 the Trump childhood vaccine. Now if you really want

28:19 journalism ing, Morning Joe and Mika, they're where you go. Oh, yeah. Alright.

28:25 Big news yesterday. Big news. Big, big news. Breaking.

28:30 President Trump signed an executive order seeking to reshape vaccine recommendations

28:36 for children.

28:37 On the current schedule, children are vaccinated against 18 diseases, but Trump's plan would only vaccinate against 11. His order also calls for the MMR vaccine for measles, mumps, rubella to be separated

28:53 into three different single shots. It's currently given in one dose, and there is no credible evidence that None. Separating them provides a safety advantage. Not one study. The president also made a dangerous and false claim yesterday about the MMR vaccine.

29:12 Dangerous and false claim. Dangerous and false. What can they be, Darren?

29:17 And no data. Well, is there any data that says

29:19 they're perfectly safe? No. I mean, you need

29:22 we may need studies that look at groups that, you know, do a test for the parents that want their kids to get the three and separate them and then see if there's a difference. But that is gonna take ten,

29:34 twenty years for any real answers.

29:37 Sure.

29:38 And I can't really go against what Donald Trump said, which is if this is all we have to do is separate them and everybody still gets the full coverage, it just might be a little bit safer. Why would you be so against that MSNBC?

29:52 That's not control. How about leave it up to the parents? Let them decide.

29:56 That's what they don't like. No. They don't like that.

29:59 We have the MMR.

30:01 We wanted in three separate vaccinations

30:04 given at separate times.

30:06 Together, there could be a possibility they're quite lethal.

30:10 And separately,

30:11 it looks like they are not at all lethal, but just very effective. And I think I heard you say that the MMR vaccine for mumps, rubella is quite lethal.

30:21 Is there any evidence of of that? Can because any What I've heard is that there are there are some people that say it is that way.

30:29 And I say, well,

30:31 let's say there's a five percent chance of it. Let's split it up. Let's split it up. Because they do say that given individual MMO,

30:40 that given individual,

30:42 there is no impact.

30:44 In fact, they've said how safe it seems to be, but I've heard when you put them together, they can be explosive.

30:51 That that's No. That's just not true. To be clear. That that that that's just not true. To be clear, Mika.

30:58 Just I I've studied. That's absolutely

31:01 Oh, he studied. Yeah. He's a doctor now. Joe Joe, he's a doctor now. Yes. He studied.

31:06 He probably called Anthony Fauci.

31:08 No doubt.

31:10 By the way, you know okay. Continue. Medical abstinence. No study to support what you just heard from the president. No medical

31:17 evidence Bobby Bobby will say it. To what he just said. Bobby may be that person he's talking about,

31:22 but nobody else has said that. There's no medical evidence except Bobby might have said it. Well Yeah.

31:29 Again, if somebody tells you

31:31 that,

31:33 you know, do you're gonna do these three things anyway, but if you do them in this order, they might kill you. If you do them in the other order, that's much safer. Well, wouldn't you do them in the other order?

31:42 No. Because Pfizer needs those profits for quarterly.

31:46 You gotta mix them all in.

31:48 One time. Yeah. Listen to the science.

31:51 Yes.

31:52 And I don't understand why you wouldn't again just cover that story with, well, there is no evidence,

31:58 but what harm is it going to do? It's not like he's saying, no. We're we're not gonna do these vaccines anymore.

32:05 Right. Well, let's

32:07 how much does Pfizer contribute to their ad revenue each year? That's I think your answer is probably there.

32:12 Probably a lot for Of course. Of course. That's why they're so vehement about this. I mean, they're foaming at the mouth to defend that crap. Trying to watch any kind of news coverage. It's very

32:26 much like a reverse mortgages.

32:29 There's That's right. Medications

32:31 usually

32:32 for,

32:33 you know, the fat It's

32:36 it's too much. Ask your doctor today. It has to be a ninety second ad too because sixty seconds are gonna tell you what might happen including death.

32:45 And the people in them always have that kind of zombie thing going on. Have you noticed that? None of them moves very quickly. And They might all be AI by now. Maybe. Maybe they are. By the way, did you know that Fauci's name is now listed in the Urban Dictionary?

33:00 I don't wanna know. It's

33:02 it's as a as a verb to plead the fifth to refuse to answer a question, especially avoiding self incrimination. As an example, it says interviewer,

33:10 quote, did you see who ate the last slice of pizza? Me, I'm gonna vouch you on that one.

33:16 So there you have it. Yeah? Good stuff. At least there's not any crazy sexual thing yet, which is what normally No. They'll they'll come. They'll come. In the urban dictionary.

33:25 Yeah.

33:27 Now we've had the elect you and I talked about

33:30 miss Hong in

33:32 We did. In Wisconsin.

33:34 And Yes. I mean, as long as we're picking on NBC,

33:38 this is

33:39 their coverage on it. And this is the other interesting thing

33:43 that really was not clippable, but it proves to me

33:48 that social media

33:51 is complete and utter garbage.

33:53 It is completely inaccurate.

33:56 It doesn't matter if you're on the left or on the right. You're most likely getting things that are

34:03 not true because this clip

34:06 of NBC

34:08 covering

34:09 the elections

34:11 was

34:12 posted by a bunch of right leaning accounts

34:16 and half of them called them CNN,

34:19 half of them called them,

34:22 you know, I think MSNBC,

34:24 and they were just like it's right there on the video. You can see the little thing on the bottom that shows you what it is. So you're posting a video that clearly says NBC,

34:36 and you're gonna be like, oh, even CNN's

34:38 amazed.

34:39 They are. But it's not CNN.

34:42 Okay.

34:44 And Hong is losing statewide

34:46 by 6,400

34:47 votes with, you know,

34:50 nearly 60% of Dane in,

34:53 her margin here is only 3,732.

34:56 I mean, this is supposed to be

34:58 the idea of a if this this was gonna be a

35:02 a sort

35:03 of DSA earthquake in Wisconsin.

35:05 This was gonna be its epicenter,

35:07 Dane County.

35:09 This is what Dane County looks like with almost 60% of the vote in.

35:15 So again,

35:16 zoom out. You know, I I've I've been, you know,

35:20 this and reserving judgment and the possibilities here,

35:23 know, the very friendly Hong precincts in Dane and everything. But you I mean, that's a lot of vote in in Dane County.

35:31 And and,

35:32 you know, that that margin there

35:36 has not opened up the way I think a lot of people expected it was going to.

35:42 Meanwhile

35:43 okay.

35:44 Waiting on

35:45 Central Count in Milwaukee.

35:48 Waukesha just a tick more came in since we last checked. Nothing there in Washington,

35:53 in Ozaki.

35:56 So, yeah, they're really

35:58 not sure what's going on, but let's remember,

36:02 if you were watching the polling numbers, which

36:05 anybody that pays any attention

36:08 to polls,

36:10 you're out of your mind because they are never right. Before this election,

36:15 I think the polling on average had hung up, like, 20 or 22%.

36:21 She lost.

36:23 But the what I saw, I guess, a day or so ago was she lost by just a hair. Yes. You know? A It very close. Very narrow margin. Right? Am I correct? Very. Yeah. But she was supposed to win by 22%.

36:35 So Yeah.

36:37 And here's the For an insane commie, she did pretty damn well. Oh, yeah. I mean, really. This is, yeah, the

36:45 Democrat party

36:47 having its own little infighting.

36:50 This was another clip of the same dude when all of a sudden out of nowhere,

36:55 a ballot surge came in.

36:58 By mail overnight? Probably, yes. By the USB stick. That wasn't the right USB stick or something. There was some weird things going on.

37:06 Okay.

37:08 Wow.

37:09 Wow. What the heck just came in in brown? Which was that the that was huge for her.

37:15 Yeah. So that was about

37:17 18,000

37:18 votes

37:19 and she nets 2,000.

37:26 Question.

37:27 Was

37:28 that the

37:30 I mean, you can tell this guy even without the video.

37:33 Yeah. You can tell this guy is amazed by what just came in while he's covering this live on the air.

37:40 Was it pulled out from under a desk in

37:43 in London? In Atlanta. Right. Probably. It was in a banker's box that was found in Yeah. A janitor's closet. Right.

37:50 That wasn't central count, was it? It's possible. There's there's no remaining vote in Brown according to our counter. I'll I'll check the I'll check the website. I I I said I want percent more, but now I do because if that was vote if that was central count, is it what was his percentage of that vote?

38:06 Let's take a look. If if if this was Central Count,

38:10 this is the question we're getting at from Milwaukee. If he just got buried in Central Count Green Bay.

38:16 It was 44 to 34

38:19 Hong over Crowley.

38:22 Okay. Okay.

38:23 Yeah. Let's we ask our decision desk what we think that was that just Yep. And do we think there's

38:28 Central Count left for Yeah. Can we ask our people what the hell just happened?

38:34 Really?

38:36 CNN says the, establishment is striking back.

38:40 Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, they did not endorse her as they had endorsed Abdul Al Syed in the Michigan senate democratic primary there. I wanna say I've been on cable the last few days a lot. It's where I I like a little laugh tell there. Work, and I've heard a lot of Republicans with talking points. They were loaded for bear on Francesca Hong. Francesca Hong was candidate they were focused on. They were already trying to nationalize her what they saw is her imminent victory in Wisconsin.

39:06 How surprised are Republicans this morning?

39:11 John, they are very surprised. And not only were they talking about this campaign and how they would

39:17 effectively use some of her comments, they were trying to prop her up at the same time. A remarkable

39:23 play here. The Republican Governors Association

39:25 was spending more than $4,000,000

39:27 running ads

39:28 showing that she's a strong progressive. Well, that was seen as a way to effectively meddle in this race. So Republicans were hoping to run against her. That did not happen. So this race is is a

39:39 an example of the establishment striking back. But, John, I'm also thinking back to an interview I had with David Crowley on Sunday evening. I asked him about that establishment thing. He said, look. I'm established,

39:49 but I am not a member of the establishment.

39:52 If he would win, he would be the first African American governor right here in

39:57 Yeah. Have you checked, Crowley's policies?

39:59 No. It's probably not a whole lot different. It's almost identical to hers. So, really, you know, it's the same thing. They'll they'll make great hay out of, out of Crowley's nonsense. Yeah. Well, it's because Democrats be democratic.

40:11 That's true. And people are like, oh, you guys are all one-sided. It's like, show me where

40:16 I'm

40:17 wrong.

40:19 Yeah. This was an interesting little blurb when they were talking about this

40:24 on

40:25 CNN and, of course, all of the voting,

40:28 the Save America Act. This was something that even surprised me. This was a White House spokesman

40:34 saying that,

40:36 yeah, Obama shouldn't have been on the ballot illegally

40:39 in Indiana.

40:40 This is good. In Arizona, he hired the the ninjas. What were they called? Yeah. The cyber ninjas. The cyber ninjas. I'll give I'll give you I'll give you an example where it has been determinative

40:48 and that's in my home state of Indiana, Saint Joseph County. The gentleman you previously worked for David Axelrod, Barack Obama got on the ballot

40:57 because Democrats in that county submitted fraudulent ballot petition signatures.

41:02 People including the Democrat County chair went to jail over that. Barack Obama should not have been on the primary ballot in the state of Indiana. But that's not a voting. That's not a voting issue. Like, that's Can you believe this is What? The

41:14 That's not a voting issue. Oh, but that's not that's not what the save America act is gonna help with. This is the guy on CNN. Oh, but that's not a voting wait. The guy shouldn't have been on the ballot. He got on the ballot illegally.

41:28 Mhmm.

41:29 But to CNN,

41:31 that's not a voting issue.

41:35 In the state of Indiana. But that's not a voting that's not a voting Like, that's something Well, it is a voting issue because he he was on the ballot, and people would vote for it to check it. Issue, though. That's not a you know, they're stealing elections. Illegals are voting. That's an Indiana issue because Indiana is the one that determines who's on their ballot. How did how did that get determined?

41:54 That's Axelrod asking. Who's like, wait. Wait. What did what how did this happen? Who was that idiot? I mean, that's incredible. The guy from CNN today. I don't I don't know which actor that was. I'm sure.

42:06 How how did that get determined? It was finally exposed two years later. It went through the courts, and several people found found themselves in jail. Finally. But that's the problem. It it didn't happen. They didn't find it before he was on the ballot. But but but you did after. Do you? Oh, but that's just an Indiana problem. Just an Indiana. Yeah.

42:26 The way the system works, you gotta be amazed.

42:29 You do. And revolted.

42:32 Jen Psaki, I hate the term, but said the quiet part out loud that

42:37 the democrats used to be the ones picking the candidates, not like letting the people decide.

42:43 It is really and and I wanna bring Liz Smith into this conversation because Liz and I grew up in democratic politics. We're still young,

42:51 of course, but but

42:52 we grew up in democratic politics together and I think we both remember well when party leadership

42:57 really selected the nominees. Now you would never say it that way exactly,

43:02 but they would But you can't now. Now we can't. We're free.

43:06 You know, they they really did because they would put money behind it. They would endorse.

43:11 And now it it looks very much like party leaders are not picking the nominees. In fact, party leaders pushing nominees is is a negative. It is is a negative in many of these races. But What? You mean in the ones with the highly

43:26 leftist

43:27 DSA candidates is what you're saying? Yeah.

43:31 These people are no good. Right. Hey.

43:35 Ladies and gentlemen, it's the Podfather Adam Curry twenty two years ago today, The Daily Source Code.

43:41 Ah, you remember. Yeah. You remember.

43:44 I love it. I love it. In the morning to you both. In the morning? Morning. In the morning. It's where real podcasting began.

43:50 Was it twenty two years ago? Yeah. Was it '20 was it thought it was 2023

43:55 is it o four?

43:57 Thought it was You launched an enterprise on the thirteenth of the month? That was very No. No. No. Bold. Bold. And I know I don't wanna interrupt your flow here because this is so interesting. These DSA people,

44:09 you you look at the response on social media and you think that they were already, you know, in the house and in the senate. Right. Oh oh, another communist

44:18 won.

44:19 These are

44:20 these are primaries.

44:23 Yes.

44:24 That is meaningless.

44:26 Yeah. They still have to go through the big election.

44:28 Yeah. And if you if you look at what's Al Fayed? Is that the guy's name? Al Fayed. Yeah. Al

44:34 Fayed.

44:35 He's even better off. From now on known as Al Fayed. Gotta look like Al in any album art. There you go. Right. You know, if you if you look at the at the primary results,

44:46 none of the working class

44:48 areas voted for him. None of them. It's all and I understand.

44:52 These are all highly educated,

44:55 highly debt laden people

44:58 who got

45:00 sadly psyoped into believing that if you go to a university

45:04 then you will be rich when you go into the workforce. You'll do just fine.

45:09 And the two things that changed is their parents allowed them to go to woke universities.

45:15 The woke universities were allowed to exist. They came out with gender studies degrees

45:20 and they're useless.

45:21 And and so yeah, and it's all about a hate Trump

45:26 protects our community

45:27 of illegals

45:29 and

45:30 and Medicare for all. It's all the things that, you know, that have already been adjudicated in in congress.

45:37 And I I I think this is great. I mean, there's a lot of Republicans I think are nuts too.

45:43 But these people, I don't see them winning.

45:46 Well, have you seen El Saeed doing his his cowboy dance?

45:51 No.

45:52 Oh. No. Oh. Wait a minute. I would He should come to Texas with that. Right? Yeah. I would have brought a clip and it was just musical and Darren, you should know. He looked he was dressed like the cowboy from The Village People and kinda moved like him too. And and he

46:06 was He's his he's doing his dance to a Taylor Swift tune.

46:10 So there you have it. Nice.

46:13 Nice.

46:13 But

46:15 the guy, you know, he's he's completely from the whole axle rod Obama

46:20 background.

46:21 I'm you know, this this guy smells so bad. Rhodes Scholar. Okay. Not just a Rhodes Scholar. I checked on him. A part of his education was paid for by the Soros Foundation, who by the way is 96 years old today. Happy birthday. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Fact He busted out the birthday list.

46:39 It's not like he's put

46:42 him on. Put him on.

46:44 It's not like he's sitting there stroking his white pussy,

46:47 pun intended.

46:50 You know, the the Open Society Institute,

46:53 I mean, that thing has been so ingrained across the world. It's it's a machine.

46:58 Yeah. So that is a real problem. But the DSA, everyone says, who who runs the DSA?

47:05 Who are the leaders of the DSA? Who's running this? Nobody knows. No one talks about it. They never do any interviews.

47:11 I thought it was Antifa.

47:14 No. There is no such thing as Oh, that's right. It's an idea. Joey said It's just it's just a thought. It's it's a concept.

47:21 This was there was a co chair was on

47:24 the

47:25 on Fox and actually went to hard to believe for an interview on Fox and had a really hard time explaining

47:32 the millionaire's

47:34 tax.

47:35 Now Hong also wants to abolish ICE to fund the police, push government run socialized health care for all, create state run grocery stores, and allow transitioning

47:43 treatments for minors. Sounds like a plan. Yes.

47:46 Points are pretty consistent with her past pledges,

47:50 especially

47:50 her attacks against law enforcement.

47:53 All of that appears in lockstep with the broader DSA platform,

47:56 which critics say is so detached from reality that even the co chair has trouble explaining a key pillar of it, high taxes.

48:04 You believe there should be millionaires in this country?

48:09 I'm less concerned about millionaires, more concerned about billionaires. We do believe in taxing the hell out of millionaires. If you're the co chair of the of the DSA,

48:17 shouldn't you be more specific than just taxing the hell out of something? What what exactly do you mean?

48:23 So again, it's democracy. Right? And and we have to look at what we need to spend and what Right. We

48:29 We look at what we spend and what we need and we just take it. Take it. And we up talk what we take it. Take it from me.

48:35 Span.

48:36 It's one hell of a plan.

48:39 It's a great plan.

48:41 They're only concerned about billionaires, which again, if you take all the money from all the billionaires, you're still not gonna pay for what you want. Yeah. But it's crazy because the these kids who are all in on this because I have a daughter in New York, stepdaughter, but she's my daughter.

48:55 And,

48:56 you know, I I I was pretty successful at deprogramming

48:59 her during COVID. It was difficult.

49:01 We started we started at, you guys are white supremacists.

49:05 Why do you say why do you say that? Why do you say that?

49:10 She went to, University of Arkansas.

49:13 Really

49:14 woke. Woke. Super woke college. Who knew? Really? Oh, yeah.

49:19 Oh, it's it's it's really incredibly woke or whatever we used to call woke one, I guess. I don't know what it is these days. Woke man now. Woke one heart And and I said, well, why why do you say that? She said, because you're watching Tucker Carlson every night? Oh. Oh, okay. And then of course, Tina is like, wait a minute. You're living in a house. Your your lifestyle is funded by white supremacists.

49:42 What's wrong with this picture? Anyway,

49:44 so she's in New York and and

49:47 definitely

49:49 I've I will take some credit for deprogramming her. And she's even said, hey, you know, you guys were right.

49:55 But Wow. When it came to when it came to Luigi trial,

49:59 she was out there. Oh, yeah. She like, you know, first of all, she thought he was hot, you know, on the down low. Like,

50:06 what do you mean hot on the down low? Well, he's secretly gay. Oh, okay. Alright. I'm learning all this stuff. Really? And, you know, so she was like, free Luigi.

50:14 And I'm sure she voted for mom donnie. I'm pretty sure she did. She she said, you know, he wants to give us stuff that we need. Right. Now, here it is exactly. Now, she's since, funny enough,

50:25 she's gotten into quite a career path where she's doing quite well for herself.

50:30 But she was, you know, bussing tables,

50:34 slamming drinks at bars.

50:36 And in that period, here she is highly educated

50:39 with a poly sci degree, kinda useless.

50:43 And and and, you know, she was like, yeah, I'm all in on this. Give me some free stuff. So that's that is your audience.

50:50 Yeah. I don't think it's that big.

50:53 No. Because anybody that starts then

50:55 making their own money realizes where that money's gonna go to pay for everything else that you were promised for free.

51:04 Yeah. Exactly. You de incentivize somebody actually being successful.

51:08 Now the thing that is dangerous that I feel is is something we need to look out for is what my neighbor down the street, Laura Logan, she calls it the Red Green Alliance.

51:18 Which is

51:20 the socialist with

51:22 the

51:23 Muslims.

51:24 Mhmm. And the I mean, this is Texas is just out of its mind right now. Now there is there is a real

51:33 concern here because I saw this happen in Europe. It takes twenty five years, but it can happen.

51:39 But it's just kind of starting

51:41 here in The United States because the last four years and even during Trump and before Trump, this immigration it's always immigration. It's not Muslims. It's immigration.

51:51 Sure. And

51:53 what it's the apathy

51:55 of people sitting around going like, yeah, don't know, city council, school board, who cares, you know, like state senate,

52:02 like, nobody.

52:03 And then the these highly organized funded

52:08 groups

52:09 like, you know, the the socialists, the DSA,

52:12 they start to meld with the enemy of my enemy. Oh, wait a minute. You guys hate conservatives and Christians? Good. You'll be with us and we're gonna put a a stamp on you and then you can go into government.

52:23 And when you get to that point, that's where you have to be careful.

52:28 Mhmm.

52:29 Because then, you know, now someone has different ideas about what your city or your state or

52:36 God forbid your country should act like and be like.

52:39 We had this big thing in Texas about the curriculum for the school board.

52:44 It I mean, it was open for comments.

52:46 They literally had to do three days. There were so many people who had comments

52:51 And you had the socialists

52:53 who wanted no 10 commandments,

52:56 no bible history lesson,

52:58 they wanted Quran,

52:59 I mean, all of this stuff.

53:01 And people came out, you know, people got organized, they came out, and then they said, no, no, no. That's not gonna happen. Here's what we're gonna do.

53:08 But that's only because people started to get mobilized.

53:11 And now, it's just it's so crazy. There was an article

53:16 this morning. Let me see here. Is

53:19 Dallas Fort Worth Airport to install Muslim footwash stations inside terminal bathrooms. Well,

53:26 everybody

53:27 is just like, this is an outrage.

53:29 What's happening?

53:31 Of course, they did this at the Houston Airport in 2024.

53:35 You know, we have special pat downs for Sikhs and turbans and all that. So but now everyone's

53:41 now they've completely gone nuts.

53:43 And they're fundraising off of it. And I and I'm like, we are so stupid.

53:48 The three of us are so stupid.

53:50 Here's what we need to do. You go ahead. It's been in the pipeline for a long time. I mean, my older daughter's 26.

53:55 And when she was in

53:57 second first or second grade

53:59 at a public school in Los Angeles. Okay? So that's twenty years ago.

54:04 They canceled

54:05 Saint Patrick's Day and

54:08 replaced it with Ramadan. Woah.

54:11 Yeah. Then But then what did this do? Very real. But did you did you run for school board to to stop that nonsense? No. Of course not. I ran for cover.

54:21 Yeah.

54:24 Hey. Yeah. Morning suit time everybody. Nice. Very good.

54:29 But Yeah. But but that that's what I I could give myself the blame.

54:34 Like, I'm in eighties, nineties. I'm I was MTV guy. I was making money. I get no time for your school board nonsense.

54:41 But you know what I think? I think that there's there's if you if you really boil it down to the very essence

54:47 of politics

54:49 that goes back farther than the invention of communism,

54:52 or socialism, or any of this stuff. There's only two kinds of people in this world.

54:56 And those on the left, I I kinda called ASTCOS which stood for assholes seeking to control others.

55:02 People who want to tell you what to do.

55:05 And most of us on the other side who do have families and lives and jobs at MTV or elsewhere. Right? How do we live? Well, we just we just wanna be left alone, lutfuls. Leave us leave us the f alone. Mhmm. And that's really what it boils down to. And so those ones that are obsessed

55:20 with controlling other people, that's just it's their religion. It's just what what makes them tick, you know? And they'll always be doing it. But that but to be an American is to represent and to get get your ass in gear. You're right. It should be. We we kind of we kind of forgot that. We took that for granted. True. And and I will I will ring the bell about that because I saw it happen in Europe. I saw

55:44 just apathy. People like, yeah, whatever.

55:47 Government never changes. And it did. Right under their noses.

55:50 Yeah. Right under their noses that changed. Now,

55:53 what gets me is the amount of

55:56 YouTubers

55:57 and podcasters

55:59 who are just making bank on this Muslim stuff. Yeah. I mean, we have one Muslim donor, Sir Animas of Dogpatch in Lower Slovovia.

56:07 He seems pretty okay to me. He doesn't seem like a political radical Islamist.

56:13 But I think we just need to say it.

56:15 If you don't support No Agenda, the Muslim Brotherhood will take over this show.

56:22 Yeah. Can't can't deny it. Can't deny it at all. Who knows? Larry may be a sleeper cell for all I know.

56:30 I feel like it, Adam. I really do. I've never seen you in person, man. I don't know. I don't know. But that beard? It's the same thing with no. Gene has the beard. You gotta really be careful if so, Gene.

56:40 Gene

56:42 Gene looks just like a terrorist in general. I'm guessing. Yes. Well, that's true. Yeah. The people

56:48 assume

56:49 that who is ever in charge

56:52 is doing the right thing by them, and that lasted for so long because it was kind of the case for a long time. They've completely checked out, and it's the same whether it's local government in the PTA

57:04 or it's who you're electing for your state senate or house or who you're electing to send to Washington. They're just assuming, like, well, the people that we put there, they have our best interests at heart. And Yeah. The mainstream media

57:17 gives them that story, so they go on their day. And they don't know what's going on at all. They're ignorant.

57:24 I think a part of it too is parenting.

57:26 I never voted till I had kids because I just didn't care. What kind of world world will I leave behind? What do I care? I won't be in it. Yeah.

57:33 How about you, Adam? When did you first vote, Adam? Just curious.

57:38 Probably not until

57:42 gosh, probably not until

57:45 I was in New York at MTV.

57:47 So my my mid twenties.

57:49 Alright. And part of it was because we lived overseas. My parents did vote. They, know, it was a real hassle

57:55 to get an absentee ballot.

57:57 You know, these days, it just comes to your door. You're not worried about it. Just shows

58:02 look, I got I got I got a whole mix of them. It

58:05 was, you know, I had to go to the embassy, you had to show your papers and you had to request it and then you had to go pick it up at the embassy. It it was a real

58:14 a real ordeal. My parents both did that.

58:16 And I think the only reason why I, for the same reason you're saying, Larry, the only reason why I eventually did vote is that MTV,

58:25 these were all New Yorkers

58:26 and they lived in New York and they were like, you know, voting day is like, oh no, man. Like, I gotta go vote.

58:32 Yeah. It was it was a thing, you know. And and then I also hadn't really been in America growing up so that's when I realized, oh, crap. I probably should vote. And I'm sure I voted for Bill Clinton.

58:44 Mhmm. I'm quite sure of it. You know, because it was cool. Boxes are briefs.

58:49 Boxes are briefs, mister president.

58:51 Yeah. You know, and I got an invitation from Hillary to go visit the White House. Did you really? I wanna know more about this. Yeah. I wish. I wish. So I You didn't go? No. I had I was on assignment. I think at the time I was doing the

59:06 I was the only guy who could ski at MTV.

59:09 And they did

59:11 a deal with these with the mogul,

59:13 the pro mogul skiing tour.

59:15 Mhmm. Which meant someone had to go out. Unfortunately,

59:19 someone had to go to every single awesome skiing place in The United States. Oh, really? And British Columbia. I

59:26 went to Whistler

59:28 and and, you know, and I would do the top 20 countdown, a couple of segments. And and when I got back, someone said, oh, yeah, you know, this came to you up at the office. And you have to understand the office and the studio, there was two different worlds. The the MTV news department,

59:42 which came in at a certain point and

59:45 they hated us. They just hated the VJs. VJs were just scum to them. We never got invited to the Video Music Awards. Oh, yeah. You can have a Oh,

59:53 yeah. You can get a ticket if you fly yourself out. Oh, yeah. Wow.

59:56 Yeah.

59:58 And so and then and this invitation had come in from the White I still have it. It come in from the White House.

1:00:03 The first lady requests your present. I don't remember what it was for, but so I it it had already passed by the time I got the invitation. There you were ski bum.

1:00:13 Ski bum. Yes.

1:00:15 Indeed,

1:00:16 bum.

1:00:17 But yeah, to answer your question, you know, mid twenties.

1:00:21 Yeah. Mid twenties. And and yeah, you know, so

1:00:25 that is

1:00:26 I people are right. If you don't

1:00:29 if you don't what's the acronym?

1:00:31 G Y A G Y I A G, get your ass in gear, G Y A I G. Troll room's already created an acronym.

1:00:39 GYAGI. GYAGI.

1:00:41 Yeah.

1:00:43 Then it can be taken away from you. I saw it happen.

1:00:46 How do you feel when you go back to Netherlands and see what's happened? I mean, that must really depress the hell out of you, does it? Well, so the kids,

1:00:54 my daughter

1:00:56 Kevin,

1:00:57 her I'll just call him fiance because

1:01:01 that's he's promised me that he will marry her. They're doing a reality show right now, so I said, okay, season two then. I'm fine with that.

1:01:23 You know, all of Rotterdam,

1:01:25 not all of it, but many parts of Rotterdam have are just Moroccan now.

1:01:30 And that and that is an immigration

1:01:32 issue which turns into a Muslim issue

1:01:35 because they have their own schools

1:01:38 which are, I guess, technically

1:01:40 not called a madras, but it's probably pretty similar to it.

1:01:44 The macro mafia, as it's known, they run all the drugs in Holland. All of it. And they run the drugs all through Western Europe. It all comes through the the port of Rotterdam.

1:01:55 So,

1:01:56 you know, my

1:01:58 daughter doesn't necessarily feel safe walking alone. She's she can take care of herself, but she doesn't like it. Yeah.

1:02:05 And when we were there visiting a couple weeks ago,

1:02:09 she's like,

1:02:10 I I I think the topic of boobs came up.

1:02:14 The boobs donation.

1:02:15 This is table talk. Well,

1:02:18 it came up in the context of feeding the baby,

1:02:22 breastfeeding.

1:02:23 Yeah. And in Europe, it's very

1:02:26 common

1:02:27 for

1:02:29 women to breast feed in public. It's not a big deal. In fact, growing up in The Netherlands, although a tad shocking to my parents in the in the early to mid seventies,

1:02:39 you go to the beach

1:02:41 and Holland has beaches. It's right on the North Sea there. And everyone's

1:02:46 topless, men and women. And it it was just normal.

1:02:49 And the Dutch didn't even understand, you know, coed showers at the sports club. Wow. This would now that has gone away

1:02:57 over time.

1:02:59 But just, you know, taking your top off as a woman on the beach was not seen as a big deal. Well, now oh, no. Not only that, but they have burkinis everywhere. Oh.

1:03:10 So it's a it's a burka bikini.

1:03:14 Yeah. And yeah. The the the the freedom

1:03:17 loving

1:03:19 open

1:03:20 kind of, I will say, liberal

1:03:24 society of The Netherlands is ruined.

1:03:27 Changed forever.

1:03:28 Changed forever.

1:03:30 What about the red zone in Amsterdam?

1:03:32 Is that still cooking? That's a tourist trap. I mean, they they changed that a long time ago. The coffee shops are dwindling because you can't sell it as a coffee shop.

1:03:43 Wow. You have to keep operating until you drop dead.

1:03:47 Even I don't think even your kids can assume it.

1:03:50 So all of that cool stuff is gone.

1:03:52 Now it's

1:03:54 nut jobs with TikTok, you know, influencers.

1:03:58 Everywhere there's a sign like, oh, we have the strobewafels

1:04:02 from TikTok. This is the place you need to get them. There was never, like, fresh

1:04:07 bakeries

1:04:09 in Holland. You know, you know, a baker might make them, and now it's a TikTok attraction. It's all ruined. It's ruined. Yeah. It's been Disney ized, American ized.

1:04:18 Not American ized. I mean, first of all, in Amsterdam, there's no Dutch people. It's all expats.

1:04:24 Wow.

1:04:25 Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love Amsterdam.

1:04:27 It's so cool. I ride my bike everywhere.

1:04:31 The grandma. The grandma bike. Yeah.

1:04:34 Exactly.

1:04:35 Yeah.

1:04:36 It's the same thing what's going on in London, what's starting to happen in Ireland. It's all just the destruction

1:04:42 of culture and it's being done intentionally

1:04:46 and everybody wants to just ignore it and say, well, be it's good to have diversity. It's like, well, but it's not good to destroy cultures.

1:04:54 No.

1:04:55 Well, and that and, you know, so

1:04:58 if you look at these

1:05:00 these DSA or DSA adjacent candidates,

1:05:03 one of the big things they're,

1:05:06 one of the big things they're talking about is affordability.

1:05:10 Okay. Affordability.

1:05:11 And

1:05:12 and

1:05:13 and this is something that's coming from both sides of the spectrum, affordability

1:05:17 and

1:05:19 endless wars.

1:05:21 And,

1:05:22 you know, I've been looking at this Iran war since it started, but before then as well. You know, Iran has always been

1:05:30 an interesting

1:05:32 interesting

1:05:34 region

1:05:35 and, you know, particularly

1:05:37 '79.

1:05:38 We all know, you know, what we did in '79

1:05:40 because, you know, we we've we've always been a part of the kind of well, the North Sea nexus has always been about keeping keep that keep that region, keep it a problem, you know, so we can kind of

1:05:52 own the oil trade, you know. Oil is still mainly traded on the ice the ICE, which is the British exchange. Of course, there's also

1:06:01 Brent is traded in The United States

1:06:03 or the Texas crude, WTI.

1:06:07 But the whole it's, you know, the oil has always been the issue and for all these years, forty seven years as our dear old Lindy Hop would say,

1:06:16 Iran has just been a problem.

1:06:19 And and now everyone hates Trump. All sides hate him.

1:06:24 But I I think they're missing

1:06:26 what he's doing. First of all, Trump doesn't care. He doesn't care if the if the republicans lose the midterms. He doesn't care. He really

1:06:35 does not care.

1:06:36 He has a couple things he wants to fix with America.

1:06:40 The first one is

1:06:41 production,

1:06:43 factories.

1:06:44 I think he's largely succeeding.

1:06:46 If you see the the jobs report. Okay. It's 5,000 jobs, but, you know, came after another 15,000

1:06:52 that were created in a previous report.

1:06:55 He's put these section

1:06:57 I think it's two thirty two tariffs on steel,

1:07:02 which makes anything

1:07:03 anything

1:07:04 coming from abroad that contains steel just too expensive. So I know a c and c milling guy here. He says that we we can't almost can't handle the work. Wow. And it's all American steel, which he said, yeah, it's more expensive. The the prices are gonna come down over time.

1:07:20 But if you look at the Chinese steel,

1:07:24 it was crap. 40%,

1:07:26 you throw away. It was just no good. So so the job, I think I think that's the big part.

1:07:33 If I believe Mike Rowe and I tend to believe him,

1:07:37 there's 7,000,000

1:07:39 jobs

1:07:40 that need to be filled and there's

1:07:42 seven and a half million

1:07:44 people who just stop looking for jobs.

1:07:47 Now I don't know exactly why that is or if they're living with their parents.

1:07:51 There's 40,000

1:07:53 welders that are needed,

1:07:55 you know, another

1:07:56 multi 10,000

1:07:58 electricians.

1:07:58 You don't need a degree. You can just go to to

1:08:02 an electrical

1:08:04 company and say, I'm willing to work. They'll teach you. Right. They'll train you quick.

1:08:08 I mean, we have a guy here in Fredericksburg

1:08:11 and he he prepares

1:08:14 the wineries. He does all the,

1:08:17 you know, the pre pre planting, the harvest. Well, of course, the the vines aren't really planted, they stay there. But all of the the sprinkler systems

1:08:25 and ice came through town.

1:08:29 We need a lot of employees. No. Ice Ice has been through Fredericksburg

1:08:33 several times. And

1:08:35 so, you know, all of his workers are gone and he is desperate.

1:08:40 Be like, you know, they're up to like $30 an hour. I'll pay anything. Just come and work for me. So and so that's going to change. And and that is that's kind of the point. That's that's part of what what the president was doing. Now when it comes to Iran, I think everyone is seeing it incorrectly.

1:08:58 This is you know, we have the choke points.

1:09:01 The main one being Straits Of Hormuz, you know, we have the Suez Canal.

1:09:06 There's another one there.

1:09:10 I'm forgetting the name.

1:09:12 But, you know, these are the maritime routes.

1:09:15 And I'm just gonna put fertilizers and stuff to the side.

1:09:20 And when, you know, when there's problems in the region,

1:09:24 then, you know, the oil doesn't flow as it should. Right? This is a

1:09:28 Bank of America guy talking about on CNBC.

1:09:31 Well, it's a bit of a laundry list. So to the extent that The US and Iran cannot come down to an agreement, to allow free passage remember, we are seeing just about five to 10 ships a day. We need to see about a 140

1:09:42 to be back at prewar levels. And, frankly, to stabilize the market, we probably, cause we're rerouting through Saudi Arabia and The UAE,

1:09:50 we probably need to see 80 to a 100 ships a day. So so again, we need to see roughly

1:09:55 10 times the flow of ships

1:09:57 to normalize prices and prevent an escalation into the winter. So the analysis that no one is giving is that this entire operation started a year before

1:10:09 the kinetic operation

1:10:11 and it is our gay general patent,

1:10:14 Scott Besant on the down low

1:10:16 who started operation

1:10:18 economic fury

1:10:20 and

1:10:22 he in this clip, I'm glad I got this one. He he explains exactly what the plan has always been and what it's going to be and then I have some clips to back up that it's happening. At Treasury, we did economic fury.

1:10:35 What goes a little publicized is,

1:10:38 you know, on the kinetic side,

1:10:41 air force is wiped out, navy is wiped out,

1:10:44 a big portion of their missiles, more importantly, their missile production.

1:10:48 On the economic side,

1:10:50 we we have them by the throat,

1:10:53 and they've

1:10:54 they've got a 150,

1:10:56 a 180% food inflation,

1:10:59 not able to pay the troops. So I think shortly, maybe even today, tomorrow, we are going to see see an agreement,

1:11:07 thirty, sixty day cease fire,

1:11:10 and,

1:11:12 Strait will be open. Energy prices should come down. There are some who've speculated the strait will never go back to being the way it was before. What would you say? I I would say I would take I think they're saying that in a

1:11:25 a doomsday sort of way. I I would say it in another way. The strait is

1:11:30 never going back to the way it was because the Iranians

1:11:34 have used

1:11:35 or tried to use it as a choke point. What we are going to see over the next two years, the Strait's gonna become irrelevant. It is going to become just another body of water,

1:11:46 and I would say that more than 50 or 70%

1:11:50 of the energy that moves through the strait now is gonna go through underground pipelines.

1:11:55 My favorite topic. The pipeline.

1:11:58 Yes. And all these pipelines are already in place. They've been used. They're not big enough to make up for the twenty

1:12:05 twenty million barrels of oil per day,

1:12:08 but they're being expanded. If you recall, The UAE now UAE, Saudi Arabia, all these guys got oil. Iran's not the only one.

1:12:16 They stepped out of OPEC, which means one thing.

1:12:20 They can pump as much as they want. They're not restricted by the rules of the of the oil producing economic

1:12:27 communities or countries.

1:12:29 And they're doing it. And this,

1:12:31 this crown prince dude, he's not messing around. The Strait Of Hormuz has been a key energy artery of the world. A narrow stretch of water just 33 kilometers wide at its tightest point, through which nearly a fifth of global energy supplies passes.

1:12:46 But now as Iran continues to restrict global shipping access through the strait, The UAE is expediting an alternative oil trade route. Abu Dhabi is moving with unusual speed to ensure that its economic future is no longer tied to Hormuz.

1:13:03 The UAE has ordered a fast track expansion of a major West East oil pipeline,

1:13:08 a project designed to bypass the Strait Of Hormuz entirely.

1:13:12 The directive came from UAE crown prince, Sheikh Khalid bin Mohammed bin Zaid, who has been asked about I think he's running for Michigan seat. Davi National Oil Company to accelerate construction timelines.

1:13:25 At the center of this strategic shift is Fujairah.

1:13:28 Unlike most Gulf export terminals, Fujairah sits on the Gulf Of Oman outside the Strait Of Hormuz.

1:13:34 That makes it one of the few safe exit points for Gulf oil if the Strait remains disrupted.

1:13:40 The UAE already operates the Habshan Fujairah pipeline capable of moving up to 1,800,000

1:13:46 barrels of crude per day.

1:13:48 But now Abu Dhabi wants to double that capacity by 2027.

1:13:53 It means that the Gulf monarchies are no longer treating Hormuz disruptions as temporary crisis.

1:13:59 They are building for a future where they will no longer be reliable on the straight, and that marks a fundamental strategic shift.

1:14:07 For years, energy security in the region was built around the assumption that global navigation through Hormuz would continue.

1:14:13 Now with Iran's restrictions through the strait, that assumption has collapsed. So I look at the two year timeline that Besant is talking about.

1:14:21 That's 2028.

1:14:23 These pipelines will be in full operation. There's even a pipeline that Iran built,

1:14:28 that goes from goes up the coast of Israel.

1:14:31 You gotta wonder why we're gonna protect that.

1:14:34 Bypassing the whole Suez Canal nonsense.

1:14:38 Mhmm. That's being that was built in like 1967.

1:14:40 That's being reactivated.

1:14:42 Now, so by 2028,

1:14:44 the oil will be flowing just the same as it was, maybe even a little bit earlier. By 2028,

1:14:50 the steel industry will be,

1:14:52 you know, for every job you create in at the top end of steel, there's like six jobs downstream,

1:14:58 People are gonna be back at work just around the time when, you know, we're gonna have a general election, new president will come in. It doesn't matter who it is, they're not gonna say to the steel producing states, well, that's no good. Right. Send it back to China because you'll never get elected.

1:15:13 So I think what what the president is doing yeah. Can see I I love the trope. Trust the plan. Yeah. Okay. This is not five d chess. This is just chess that no one's reporting on. It's that simple. Some Indian lady is where I have to get these clips from. You kidding me?

1:15:27 So that's what's going on and it will be good. I I I feel very good about it. And the president does not care

1:15:35 about the midterm election. I don't think he even cares about who comes after him.

1:15:40 No. He wants his legacy. That's it. Yeah. That that'll be his legacy. And, you know, and of course, he'll have an arc and all that. The arc to triumph, arc to Trump, all that stuff. You know, he's kind of he's kind of weird that way, but

1:15:52 It'll be gold Those

1:15:54 those two

1:15:55 general

1:15:57 missions, I I think are good.

1:15:59 You know, and the

1:16:01 then probably,

1:16:02 he probably

1:16:04 trust the plan everybody. Probably has seen that this AI thing is gonna blow up because

1:16:09 he may not understand it, but he's not stupid.

1:16:12 He knows numbers. I'm sure he goes to

1:16:15 Darius at Ianthropic and says, so what's your profit? Well, nothing.

1:16:20 We're burning money,

1:16:22 literally burning money on computer chips.

1:16:26 Well, okay,

1:16:28 then let me fast track all of these power plants, nuclear, gas fired turbines.

1:16:33 Well, that's gonna be great.

1:16:36 So whether whether these

1:16:38 data centers work out or not, whether they get filled or not, whether they're used or not,

1:16:44 there's gonna be a lot more power. A lot of power. And power is power equals life and productivity.

1:16:51 No matter I mean, that's just the basics of any economy.

1:16:55 Power. That's why the Chinese have done so well. They've hydropower.

1:16:59 They they never went in on the green energy scam. So they're just burning coal.

1:17:05 They they also have some I think they have some huge fusion magnet thing that I don't know if that'll ever work, but, you know, it may just

1:17:12 create a hole in the universe.

1:17:14 Don't you wish that that he would be some concern about the midterms? Because look, you know, you get the the lefties back in. Just think about Joey. He stepped in. I'm shutting the pipeline pipeline down. All electric cars. No one you know, they're crazy, and they don't care about productivity and jobs or anything. Just their

1:17:32 their agenda.

1:17:33 Well, but this is but, you know, there's not a pipeline that you can it's it's not an American president or American congress's business how the oil moves from The UAE and Saudi Arabia.

1:17:46 True. That's not his business. So if anything,

1:17:49 what we're doing now by sitting there and shepherding you know, there's still eighty eighty ships a day coming through. Shepherding whoever we want to come through,

1:17:58 we're kind of helping all these other countries create this alternative route. That's ultimately good for everybody. You know, congress is not gonna stop that. Okay. You take the ships away. By then, it's it's already congress can't if congress wanted to stop this war, they would just defund

1:18:16 the the war department.

1:18:19 They they Dvorak

1:18:21 and I went through this.

1:18:23 Like,

1:18:23 congress gets to declare war. Yeah. You can declare all you want,

1:18:27 but it's the commander in chief who calls the shots.

1:18:31 That's why they haven't stopped it. They can't stop it.

1:18:34 Every president has called the war powers resolute a war powers resolution unconstitutional,

1:18:39 and it is.

1:18:41 So what are they gonna do? They're not gonna stop that. And, you know, back to the steel example, what are they gonna do? Just kill all the jobs that were just created in the in the in the in the middle of the country? No.

1:18:53 So

1:18:54 And it's not what the

1:18:56 end result so far has been is I think 18

1:19:00 servicemen

1:19:01 and women gave their lives in the Iranian thing.

1:19:05 And I looked this up the other day because I was curious. In the same time period,

1:19:09 a 190 people have been murdered in Chicago

1:19:12 where 18 service members,

1:19:15 you know, sadly died over in Iran. But when you kind of look at the cost of everything

1:19:22 and what is coming out of it and if you are gonna be able to

1:19:26 you know, I give Trump a little bit of credit for not going in and just bombing them bombing them bombing them. He's running this a little bit longer than a lot of people would like,

1:19:35 but the end result is their economy is going to crap. They can't get oil out. And once they're bypassed,

1:19:42 their biggest card, we have the Strait Of Hormuz, kinda goes away.

1:19:47 I wish instead of saying, you know, the 18

1:19:51 military men and men and women lost their lives, I would just like to say these people were heroes for securing our future.

1:19:58 Absolutely. Then they should be revered and they should be remembered

1:20:02 for help, you know but everyone's

1:20:04 been psyoped.

1:20:06 You know, it's like the right and the left. Oh, endless war, war of choice.

1:20:10 No. It it this is every president has talked about this, but no one did it. And now that Trump's 80, he doesn't give a crap.

1:20:19 Yeah. You know, know what Joe Rogan told me? What'd he tell When they had the,

1:20:24 they had the

1:20:27 the the

1:20:29 the fight out on the the White House lawn. Right. The thing? UFC.

1:20:33 Thank you.

1:20:34 And, you know, there was this, you know, some gang or whatever. They were gonna try and assassinate the president and kill people.

1:20:40 And Joe said that Trump said I think Joe said, aren't you afraid of of, you know, getting taken out? And Trump said, gotta go sometime, Joe.

1:20:53 Wow.

1:20:53 Gotta go sometime. I can't be afraid of this stuff. That's your president.

1:20:58 Right. Which is what you want. You gotta have somebody who is able to stand on convictions and not have,

1:21:04 the death threats and understand what may happen if he pisses the wrong people off.

1:21:10 Well, the problem is that the only guy who actually tells you what's going on is Besant.

1:21:14 And he Yeah. Just talks like a

1:21:17 like a dish rag, know. He

1:21:19 he

1:21:20 just he's he doesn't and Rubio I

1:21:24 don't know why Rubio doesn't someone has to just say this is the plan. I don't know why they're not saying that.

1:21:31 I'm sure there's reasons for it.

1:21:34 Or maybe maybe fewer people understand it at all. But to me, it seems so obvious.

1:21:41 And, you know, it's not like we don't have enough oil.

1:21:44 It's just the the global price is set on markets

1:21:47 that know, whenever there's demand, the supply always follows. I mean, it's there's always been enough oil. It's just the price of it.

1:21:56 That's the problem. Well, yeah, we have enough oil. What was the last number, like, for the next six hundred years?

1:22:02 So it's not like there's a

1:22:04 oh, no. We're running out like we were told decades ago. Peak oil, baby. Coal. Uh-huh. They said I think it was 600 for coal. Was that oil? Really? I don't remember that. But but peak oil coal. During the during I think it was 2009 during this show. Peak oil. Oh, it's peak oil. Oh, no. We're at peak oil. There's gonna be no more oil in the ground. That went on for years.

1:22:24 Yes.

1:22:25 For years. Just like climate change.

1:22:28 Still coming out of the ground too.

1:22:31 Yeah. And so the the the hot job market will be for steel workers and demolition guys to take down all the unused AI data centers. Is that correct? Yeah. Well, maybe I mean, I think that they can they can be used as factory floors. They're probably useful for that. Yeah. Yeah.

1:22:48 What about are you any near the one that Musk wants to build in Texas? It's gonna be a 100,000,000 square feet? No.

1:22:54 No. I I I have a I really have a hard time a hard time believing that this is actually gonna gonna take place. I have actually have a couple of

1:23:04 MS Now clips about data centers.

1:23:08 Man on the street stuff, know, which is always good to pick from. Let me see what this is. And then we have a Cha Cha sauce too. It's a three in one sauce. You need to be a television host. This is not a this is a guy with a food truck in Detroit. That's your job, I think so. They're trying to build a lot of data centers in Michigan. Do you think it's gonna be an issue that's central to the politics here in the state? I do. Why? Because,

1:23:31 people think that their, bills are gonna go up, and

1:23:36 there's a lot of People are scared of them. They are, and I'm afraid of them too. What what scares you the most?

1:23:42 The water usage and,

1:23:44 and the prices with, with the utilities.

1:23:47 It's frightening to me. I'm in my seventies.

1:23:50 Pretty soon, I'll be sitting down doing nothing,

1:23:53 and I'd like to have the money to do it, and I don't want a $200 water bill.

1:23:57 And this is this is an interesting psy op that's taking place

1:24:01 about the water bill. I don't think that is true.

1:24:04 You know, these systems, they they take on water and then they recycle most of it. Well, not all, but most of it. For sure, I know from dude named Ben

1:24:14 named Ben a dude named Ben named Ben the protector of megawatts,

1:24:18 that a lot of these data centers are definitely

1:24:22 screwing around with the local municipalities

1:24:26 by setting up, you know, they they kind of hide behind their power generators that they're setting up. And so they are passing on cost to the to the local community, but I think that's temporary.

1:24:38 And there's obviously a lot of, you know,

1:24:41 lot of money changing hands to get these things built and, you know, we have a new generation of farmers who are looking at how much work it is to run a farm. Right. And how then much you can get for the land and How much you can get for the land, exactly.

1:24:56 And so people are are

1:24:59 being told the most horrendous things. AI data centers. Yeah. That's where they do a lot of the AI, making the AI stuff. Making AI Are you worried about it? Water. I am worried about it. I'm very concerned about it. Yeah. Because I feel like when you cold press something, you need water to do it or no? Well, I need water to clean my stuff, you know, and wash my produce and do all of that. There's no water in that juice. She's in the food truck too. Oh. I'm kind of for them, you know, as long as they take certain safeguards, you know, environmentally and noise pollution and all that stuff.

1:25:27 The residents who live out by the new ones apparently don't think that's adequate enough. Yeah. They're not happy about it. What's your name? Connie Bank. Connie, it's so nice to meet you. That is a nice head of cauliflower you got there. Yeah. Guess how much it cost? How much? This is Detroit, honey. How much? $1.

1:25:42 Stop it. I'm telling you. Stop it. $1. Dollar. $1. No.

1:25:46 So,

1:25:47 yeah.

1:25:48 Temporarily,

1:25:49 but I think I think this is the gambit here is get all of the and this this turbine,

1:25:54 they're using old jet engines, anything they can get. All GE is sold out of power

1:26:01 generating turbines through through 2030.

1:26:04 They're So sold we're gonna have power everywhere.

1:26:08 I really don't think they're gonna be utilized,

1:26:11 at least not with

1:26:12 the so called artificial intelligence that we're seeing today, you know, because it the the numbers just don't add up.

1:26:19 But that power generation is gonna be fantastic.

1:26:23 I'm I'm I stand by this. And, you know, the the president said, it was kind of genius. Okay.

1:26:29 But we I don't know if he came up with it. But, you know, to say that these are utilities. These will be local utilities.

1:26:36 And I truly believe that that is going to turn out to be true and it probably won't be powering these data centers, but they'll make power very

1:26:44 efficient. Maybe we use these as factory floors. We start producing stuff here with nuclear energy.

1:26:49 There's I think eight small medium reactors that are being deployed all around the country now.

1:26:55 This is the stuff that was being held back for decades and decades. Oh, yeah. And and so now,

1:27:01 the

1:27:03 in I don't know if you've been following this, but they

1:27:07 this is such a bull crap money sink that they've got BlackRock

1:27:12 and KKR

1:27:14 and Blackstone

1:27:15 and all the the big hedge funds. They're all raising $500,000,000,000

1:27:21 now

1:27:22 to build out data centers with NVIDIA leading the charge. NVIDIA, the only profitable company in this entire in this entire mix.

1:27:31 And it's another form of the circular financing that's been going on

1:27:36 except now they've come up with a new a new

1:27:40 come up with a new one.

1:27:42 Tokens equals a commodity.

1:27:45 So you can invest in tokens.

1:27:48 Now no one knows exactly how they're made, what each each token is different,

1:27:53 what does it really cost to make a token. Doesn't matter.

1:27:58 They are setting up not the not the the ninety nine, two thousand bubble.

1:28:03 They're setting up the 2,008

1:28:05 is what's going on here. So Jensen Huang calls AI infrastructure

1:28:10 a new asset class. Do you agree with that assessment?

1:28:16 Well,

1:28:17 we have spent so much money already

1:28:21 on data centers, on AI.

1:28:24 Companies involved in AI,

1:28:27 their stock market valuations

1:28:29 have soared in NVIDIA itself, which, of course, is a huge supplier of chips to the artificial intelligence

1:28:36 industry,

1:28:37 has a market cap now of more than $5,000,000,000,000.

1:28:42 Unfortunately,

1:28:42 Wall Street has a tendency to really

1:28:45 get into excess mode

1:28:47 and hype mode, and this is an example of that, to be honest.

1:28:53 It harks back to me about what Wall Street did to push

1:28:57 mortgage backed securities leading up to the two thousand eight financial crisis when

1:29:02 Wall Street firms literally vertically integrated to be able to provide,

1:29:08 mortgages, write mortgages, and then finance mortgages, package package them up into mortgage backed securities and sell them off and keep some of what they couldn't sell on their balance sheet and use that to finance,

1:29:20 their own,

1:29:22 cash needs on a daily basis resulted in disaster as we all know. So now we've got $500,000,000,000

1:29:29 coming out of essentially the private credit market Yeah. To finance

1:29:34 NVIDIA's

1:29:35 construction now of new data centers as if there aren't already enough data centers.

1:29:41 It's Yeah.

1:29:42 So

1:29:44 here's Larry Fink. Now the thing about Larry Fink

1:29:47 is he runs BlackRock,

1:29:49 but whose whose money does BlackRock trade?

1:29:53 It's our money. It's our money. Yeah. Yeah.

1:29:56 He's you know, the 9 or $11,000,000,000,000

1:29:59 that he trades is

1:30:01 from The United States Of America.

1:30:04 We need to raise this money as fast as possible Yeah. And put this to work

1:30:09 because I think it's really imperative that The United States is the leader in AI in the world, and I think that we need to be the leader in the disbursement of this technology around the world. And I think this is why this is so critical, and I applaud what NVIDIA

1:30:25 has done bringing all these firms together and saying, have a common goal. We need to raise $500,000,000,000.

1:30:31 Obviously, that's an unprecedented amount of money, but we're gonna have to raise trillions of dollars over the coming years, and and I do believe this is gonna be representing a fantastic investment.

1:30:40 Yeah. In fact, I think it's going to be such a large investment, over time you're going to see more and more allocation

1:30:47 into this asset class. Jim talked about compute as an asset class, but importantly, I look at the financing of data centers,

1:30:56 This is the very beginning, like what it was when I started in the mortgage backed securities market in the 1970s,

1:31:03 and I look upon this as a next future for financial

1:31:07 engineering.

1:31:07 These guys are amazing. They literally just, oh, yeah. I was part of that mortgage backed securities. It was great. I started this great business. Fantastic.

1:31:16 But the thing is they're building the data centers.

1:31:19 It's the power

1:31:21 that I don't think is being built from our money, BlackRock per se. You know, and BlackRock may not be using our money. They're going to raise this money, so they'll raise it from sovereign wealth funds and all kinds of other places. But here's the numbers on the power. Just end with is that the power

1:31:37 is what drives all of this. The access to energy. Yes. The access to energy, and we need to build more faster.

1:31:44 And there is a financing system for power. Like, it's not new what Jensen's doing with compute. It will compute will get to where power is. There is Do you think But it physically has to get bitten,

1:31:55 underwritten. And, like, we have 14 nuclear plants Mhmm. That were in various stages of construction today. Wow. And it will be another 40 with another 100 coming. Oh, they're we're gonna get them done. And this is the first time

1:32:10 in a long time that market driven forces

1:32:14 can build out the sustainable energy necessary around the world. This is in So you don't without government you don't Without government funding. This is all This is all market driven. We're we're building these ourselves,

1:32:26 and they're going to get built all across The United States. And and remember, we bought West out of bankruptcy seven years ago. Nobody was building a nuclear plant, and there's gonna there is a renaissance going on today

1:32:36 in The United States led by Westinghouse that is

1:32:40 incredible largely because it's it's carbon free, it's base load, and it's the next energy that's coming. Like Yes.

1:32:48 And that's what's gonna be great about this. And I see you see Brooklyn One One Two in the troll room, same Ponzi over and over. The c stands for cynical.

1:32:58 No. This

1:32:59 is not a Ponzi. That's real investment and it's gonna be great. I'm gonna be mining Bitcoin for 1¢ a kilowatt hour. I can't wait. Power's gonna go down.

1:33:08 It's yes. It's going to drop dramatically.

1:33:11 Well, especially when people don't understand they're already

1:33:14 the people that are working on these AIs that are distilling models

1:33:19 on their own. They're taking these open source models, and they're able to get nearly the same accuracy

1:33:26 Oh, man. A much smaller model, which takes a much less electricity.

1:33:30 Forget forget the chatbot nonsense,

1:33:33 which is a complete loss leader for these guys. I have a Helix

1:33:37 machine GTX,

1:33:38 whatever it's called, 64 gigabyte.

1:33:41 I'm running

1:33:43 15

1:33:46 complete

1:33:48 robot radio stations.

1:33:50 All of the

1:33:51 On one machine, creating the voices,

1:33:54 checking

1:33:55 the promos

1:33:56 with Whisper, you know, everything's going back and forth, which would cost

1:34:01 $3,000

1:34:02 if you had to buy it from

1:34:04 Anthropic

1:34:05 or even if you use, you know, one of these

1:34:08 outfits like together.ai

1:34:10 where you rent by the, you know, by the by the minute. Right. And I'm running that at home on a relatively

1:34:16 inexpensive

1:34:17 machine.

1:34:19 And what is the format of these radio stations?

1:34:22 Christian contemporary music, baby.

1:34:24 Interesting.

1:34:25 Oh, yeah. Oh, you should oh, man. You should listen to you know, what's the the CCM that's going on today, that's like like rock and roll. I mean, it's it's good stuff. You got Brandon Lake, jelly roll. There's some country in there. It's, you know, it's it's

1:34:41 good. And

1:34:43 the message makes you feel good Of course. With Jesus.

1:34:50 Amen.

1:34:52 It's working.

1:34:53 Quick quick Larry Fink question. I wanna know how he's getting along with the decline in DEI.

1:34:58 Wasn't he like the leading that charge?

1:35:01 Yeah. No. He he had to shut that down. You

1:35:04 know, it was it was those guys who set up the whole scale.

1:35:08 Yeah. The whole, know, you you're not investable unless you Right. What was the name of that? What was that? Gosh. I remember that. I talked I talked about it on Rogan.

1:35:18 What was that called?

1:35:21 Hold on a second.

1:35:22 What was you know what I should oh, what am I even thinking?

1:35:27 Where's the Book of Knowledge?

1:35:30 The Book of Knowledge should tell me. What was the DEI scale that BlackRock and Larry Fink put into place that companies had to adhere to?

1:35:39 Let's see what the book of knowledge says.

1:35:43 I need to give you the book of knowledge, Aaron. Here

1:35:47 it comes. Will he get it? I don't know. He's hasn't been it's a little dusty. Haven't used it in a while. I'm not so sure he's gonna needs more electricity.

1:35:59 I need a nuclear power plant. Right. In the backyard. But you could do that in Texas. He needed According to the book of knowledge,

1:36:06 instrument wielded by Larry Fink was not a DEI specific scale of his own making

1:36:12 but rather the broader ESG

1:36:14 scoring system. ESG.

1:36:16 Their zero to 10 scale mapped to MSCI ESG letter ratings

1:36:21 running from AAA for leaders down to CCC for laggards.

1:36:25 Lagards. Through which BlackRock as a shareholder used its enormous leverage to There you go. There you go. The ESG score, that's what it was. That was it. Yeah. Yeah.

1:36:36 But the push for electricity is interesting, especially when they started throwing EVs at everybody while the power grids were basically failing. So here's your answer.

1:36:45 Yeah.

1:36:46 Yep.

1:36:48 And even even Zuckerberg,

1:36:51 he sees he sees it coming. You've he he wrote a manifesto

1:36:54 like a like a mass shooter. He wrote a manifesto.

1:36:58 Well, anybody is able to code and do it right from their own home.

1:37:02 It's the release of Muse Glimmer. It's accompanied by a 14 page essay. The gayest name ever for a model. Muse Glimmer.

1:37:10 Muse Glimmer. It's the release of Muse Glimmer. It's accompanied by a 14 page essay from Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg where he lays out his vision for the future of AI and he's saying it's to push to democratize the technology.

1:37:23 Live now to chief technology correspondent for Axios, Inna Fried. So, Inna,

1:37:27 it's a manifesto. Makes it seem like a huge deal. Yeah. A manifesto. What's in it? Well,

1:37:33 he's trying to address a few different things here. He's trying to counter the doomerism first and foremost. He's trying to paste an op paint an optimistic

1:37:42 vision for what AI is gonna bring. So the first thing he really tries to do is contrast himself with the people that are saying this is something you need to worry about. And so he goes point by point around the environmental concerns, working with communities

1:37:56 where there's data centers. He talks about cybersecurity

1:37:59 and how AI can be a good thing. He talks about,

1:38:04 jobs and how it's gonna create new entrepreneurial opportunities

1:38:07 even as it does perhaps get rid of some of the traditional jobs that we're used to. So that's one big point. The other is to say, look, we're back in the game. Meta has been behind in AI. They spent a fortune to bring in Alexander Wang.

1:38:22 He's been leading an effort for around a year ish now to kind of rebuild from the ground up, and they're saying, look, we have something worth checking out, and they're returning to open source. And then the last thing he wanted to do was push back a little bit on the government. Yeah. Because you know, all these companies like, oh, we need government, we need labels on the on the gay eye. Well, they're begging for guardrails and so somebody else can make those hard decisions.

1:38:48 Yes. A moat as we call it in the business. A moat. Uh-huh. We need need a moat. So I I think it's great. You know, anyone who's messed around with some

1:38:57 I'm not a coder but I've built all kinds of fun stuff

1:39:01 that that is useful that I'm selling to actual customers.

1:39:05 And that's what AI is good for. For things that have come before. It is not good for things that haven't already existed.

1:39:13 I mean, you're building something with packages with code that have already been tested out, makes perfect sense. If you really go out of the box, it's harder for these things to

1:39:25 Look at what I built for you. It's amazing.

1:39:27 I mean, I'd it took me twenty minutes. I'm like, hey, I I got this I got this, soundboard,

1:39:34 and, I have my clip set up, and I want Darren to be able to access it on the web. Boom.

1:39:39 That's like no problem. Works. Yeah. Yeah.

1:39:42 Let's see. But people have done this before. People have created soundboards not exactly in the same way. They played

1:39:49 put together playout systems.

1:39:51 So anything that's been done that they can access that code, mean, the best example is having a username and password login. It's used on every site. The code's already out there. The AI can implement that code into your project.

1:40:06 And it really is just like making every little piece of code a puzzle piece.

1:40:11 Well, I think the

1:40:13 what's nice about it is you can

1:40:16 streamline your business.

1:40:18 Oh, yeah. So Yeah. An example. So I've been doing this show with pastor Jimmy called We Get To Do This. Been doing this for we now have 45 episodes in.

1:40:27 And, you

1:40:29 know, seeing as my situation is changing and I'm being pushed out by two other guys who are taking over the show. Yeah. I'm like, know. Would say you're old, Larry's older, so we can't use that. It's like, I gotta do value for value.

1:40:42 And, you know, and I said to Tina, okay, you're back off. And she's like, what? What? You know? What? Work? And and she no. She doesn't mind work, but, you know, she's she's good at writing newsletters

1:40:52 and doing that stuff. But, you know, when you have to pull in Stripe and and

1:40:58 and PayPal

1:40:59 and donations.

1:41:01 And so I just sat down and went, okay. We're a little business here.

1:41:06 Robot, I call all of my AIs robot. Robot, make me a system that pulls in the donations, makes it into a nice spreadsheet, orders it this way, put the notes into it. And you know, the robot said, okay, I need some I need some API

1:41:21 tokens.

1:41:22 Okay. How do I do that? Click here. Click there. Okay, both. Click click copy paste.

1:41:28 And then it says, do you have a do you have a website? I said,

1:41:33 no. But you can put it on the I got a computer.

1:41:36 Okay. I'll put it on this computer.

1:41:38 And it just built it. And then I just type in donations,

1:41:41 all uppercase,

1:41:43 and it brings it in and it's done. And that and that saves

1:41:47 a marriage.

1:41:48 Yep.

1:41:49 Oh, absolutely. It's weight in gold. With these new enterprises, will you be doing any cookie stuffing like Phoebe Gates?

1:41:57 Oh, man. I hope so. Yeah.

1:42:00 Don't do that. No. I love the cookie stuff. Stuff in office. Yeah. It's like, here's an affiliate program and I'm gonna steal your, your money. Yeah. It's awesome.

1:42:10 You gotta you gotta explain that. You gotta explain what's going on with that. I don't know if I can do it, but, she's I I think she's probably gonna do less time than Fauci. That's just my bet. But they're saying she's up for perhaps twenty years. I don't see that happening.

1:42:22 Really? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Fia, the AI shopping assistant co founded by 23 year old Phoebe Gates

1:42:28 and Sophie Kiani allegedly used cookie stuffing to claim commissions on sales it didn't drive. Or like Honey. That was the same deal with Honey. Yeah. Honey was the same thing. Yeah. So you basically, you take the affiliate cookies,

1:42:41 browser cookies, and then you just use them. And so whenever someone is is buying something through that You hijack it. You hijack it. Yeah. It's great.

1:42:51 Yeah. America, baby. That's how we roll. Well, she should go to jail

1:42:56 for sure.

1:42:58 But that's the beauty of these AI systems. You can pull in your spreadsheet from PayPal or wherever and just go, you figure it out.

1:43:06 Okay. To round out this tech segment, both of you are old enough to remember dial up modems.

1:43:11 Yeah. Certainly.

1:43:13 Okay.

1:43:14 Now,

1:43:15 Larry, what was the speed of the first modem you ever used? Do you remember? Oh my god. I'm gonna say it was I think it was something in the teens. Was it like '16? Was it b a u d? Did that mean something? No. You're in the bauds. Okay. Bauds don't count. You were on bulletin boards trading porn. No. I'm I'm talking about to connect to the Internet.

1:43:35 To connect to the Internet. I I don't remember. I don't know. Do you think 1,200 baud?

1:43:40 Sounds sounds right? Maybe. Maybe. Well, listen and tell me if this sounds familiar to you. Okay.

1:43:48 Oh, yeah. You've got mail.

1:43:54 That was 1,200 baud per second. Okay. Alright. Now, did you I'm sure you had a 2,400 baud. This is what sounded like.

1:44:08 Oh, yeah. That's more like it with that little Yeah. Bloop than that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:44:13 I

1:44:15 like that Bemrose is triggered.

1:44:18 Oh, yeah. That's not hard to do. Alright. So these so these things eventually so that was 24.

1:44:24 Then we went I think we might have had 48, then we had 96,

1:44:27 then 14.4,

1:44:29 28.8,

1:44:30 33.6,

1:44:32 then we had 56

1:44:35 nine O.

1:44:37 I don't know if anybody remembers this. But here's what I wanna test.

1:44:41 Tell me the speed of the following

1:44:44 modem.

1:44:45 Are you ready?

1:44:47 Sure.

1:45:02 Is that like a twenty eight eight?

1:45:06 Woah.

1:45:10 Alright. What was the speed of that modem?

1:45:12 Not twenty eight eight. Was that faster?

1:45:15 Twenty eight eight. You nailed it. Twenty eight eight. I might write some lyrics to that to to that fucking page. I started with a 300 bought acoustic coupler.

1:45:24 Ah, that sounded like this. Here you go.

1:45:28 It was very slow.

1:45:30 Very slow.

1:45:32 But it was great because you actually had to put the phone handset in and you could into the cradle. Very well. Into the cradle. I still have my

1:45:40 TRS

1:45:41 100,

1:45:43 which is a a laptop

1:45:46 size device that had an eight line LCD display

1:45:50 and you could do the journalists had this. You could do you could write documents and you could run some basic programs and it had

1:45:59 an acoustic coupler

1:46:01 and which I also have and then later it had a built in modem and I think that was 300 baud

1:46:07 and you could dial into the newsroom.

1:46:09 That was way better because with the acoustic couplers, you couldn't even play your music loud. I mean, it would

1:46:14 would screw everything up.

1:46:16 Alright. Here here's the one that we probably all remember. This is the 56 k.

1:46:33 Yeah.

1:46:34 Yeah. Connects. Connects. Connects.

1:46:37 Oh, good times. Now I wonder what really

1:46:40 in there.

1:46:42 I'm pretty surprised you got the twenty eight eight, Darren. That was pretty good. They weren't even using them as long and those they all have a distinct little

1:46:50 sound to them. And there were wars.

1:46:53 Gosh, I wish John was here. There were wars with different modem vendors like, no. No. No. You got we have the v Hayes had their Hayes compatible

1:47:03 system and US robotics.

1:47:06 They came out with the v Dot nine two, I think. Right. Where they were throwing like compression in to try to make it faster.

1:47:12 Oh, yeah. Yeah. How often did you upgrade your your modems? Well, they stopped every while.

1:47:18 No. They stopped. Wow. I think I think they went didn't we at one point have a 112,

1:47:22 but it was kind of unreliable?

1:47:24 Yeah. I never went to that. I went from 56 and then had

1:47:28 AT and T at home came in with one megabit down or 1.5 megabit down. Wait. When was that? That had to be

1:47:38 what? 2000

1:47:40 2000. Oh, okay. No. I'm I'm talking nineties.

1:47:43 In the nineties, I had

1:47:46 I had a 56 k frame relay dedicated line,

1:47:50 which was cool.

1:47:53 Because you didn't have to dial up. It was just on all the time and there was no, you know, no charge.

1:47:59 But still if you ISPs at the time got very angry if you stayed on all day and all night. Mhmm. And then at a certain point,

1:48:08 with

1:48:10 my company on ramp, we had

1:48:12 we had Molson Ice as a client

1:48:15 and they had the Molson Ice Polar Beach Party. Remember they had polar ice, Molson, Molson Oh, yeah. Ice, polar ice. And

1:48:23 so we built the website which we easily charge $50,000

1:48:28 a month for. It was such a good time. Now

1:48:31 you just

1:48:33 Chad GPT, make a website.

1:48:37 And we had to do the prize for these winners was a concert at the North Pole with

1:48:44 Metallica,

1:48:45 Veruca Salt,

1:48:47 and Hole with Courtney Love. Three bands. And it was a tuk to yuk tuk,

1:48:53 so the Northwestern territories,

1:48:55 you know, we were like a mile inside the Arctic Circle.

1:48:59 And we had sold we said, we'll livestream it. Okay.

1:49:04 Good luck with that. Well, which well, of course, the technology at the time was CUCME

1:49:10 and

1:49:11 and we did have we we did have PCM streaming audio, so you could at least get some streaming audio, but how are we going to get the connectivity up there? Right. And we built this thing called the road box.

1:49:24 And the road box was a flight case and it had,

1:49:28 I think, 30 modems in it. So

1:49:31 as long as we could get and we had and it it muxed them And then on the at our office, we had to demux. So we had, you know, thirty thirty modems on the other end.

1:49:41 And so it would

1:49:43 you take these these 30 modems and we were able to get phone lines because there was a a oil drilling station up there. So we got the phone lines, plugged them all in, and then, you know, that combined created, I don't know, created enough, like, probably half a megabit or so in order to stream the CUCME and the audio back to home base. And it worked. It worked. That's crazy. 30 modems, 30 phone lines,

1:50:08 and it somehow worked? And Lars was a real wussy boy. He was complaining the whole trip.

1:50:15 Always complain complaining,

1:50:18 complaining.

1:50:19 Courtney Love was crazy. She didn't care. She's like, I'm gonna jump into the Arctic by water here. That's great. Calm down, Courtney. Calm down. Yeah.

1:50:27 Good times.

1:50:29 It was a little chilly?

1:50:31 Yeah. Well, you you gotta dip your toe into the into the the North Pole water. Of course, it did that. And, you know, it was daylight twenty three hours of the day.

1:50:42 And we're up there and it's

1:50:44 you know, there's no alcohol. It was complete dry village, Tuktuk. Oh, no. And so it's like eleven at night and, you know, we're all we're all out of our minds jet lagged and we're like, you know, we've gotta get some alcohol.

1:50:58 Yeah. And and see these kids are riding their bikes around eleven at night. It's, you know, it's broad daylight. Hey, kid. Let me ask you something. Oh, you want alcohol? That guy over there. Go visit him over there.

1:51:11 Man, I'd forgotten that story.

1:51:13 Mhmm. That's why you're writing a book.

1:51:15 Any evidence of UFOs or the thing up there in the Arctic Circle? Nah. Not nothing like that. No. Nothing like that. Nothing like that. And now thanks to Elon, you just can get satellite connectivity

1:51:26 and broadcast. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. I've actually just turned my,

1:51:31 you know, we're we're tightening the belt here in the hill country. It's like, do I really need this $150

1:51:36 a month backup,

1:51:38 satellite

1:51:39 thing, the Starlink?

1:51:41 You can put it on sleep mode for $10 a month. So Oh. That's not bad. We're supposed to be getting they ran the cables

1:51:49 finally getting fiber in October. So I'm counting down the days.

1:51:54 Yeah. No. We got we got five gigabit fiber here. It's fantastic.

1:51:58 It's, you know, it's part of the

1:52:01 rural broadband.

1:52:03 So we're technically rural

1:52:06 and so all of your government money that's supposed to go to poor people in the middle of America is going to the billionaires

1:52:12 in Fredericksburg.

1:52:14 That's good. Five gig up and down. Oh, yeah. This is disgusting. But at least you have broadband. That's all that matters. Do. Put it on the map.

1:52:22 I'm I'm running a server farm here, baby. Another big scam. All of the rural broadband that's

1:52:30 again, follow the money if there is any.

1:52:34 Alright. What else you got?

1:52:37 What do we got? I got let's see. I have one from this is always kind of fun. There's a a US Air Force former secretary now suing the government. Did you hear about this guy? No. No. His Yeah. His name is his name is Frank

1:52:54 Kenrie.

1:52:55 And his security clearance was was pulled about, I don't know, eight months ago. And so he's very He's upset about that. And he's he's suing the government because,

1:53:05 you know, he's he's entitled to that, I guess. It comes as former air force secretary Frank Kendall is speaking out for the first time here on Out Front after the Trump revoked his security clearance over his comments to media outlets about Trump's new Qatari gifted Air Force one. And Frank Kendall is now out front, the former air force secretary,

1:53:24 and now author of lethal autonomy, the future of warfare,

1:53:28 whether we Like It or Not. And secretary Kendall, I I greatly appreciate your time, and I do wanna get your reaction to this Washington Post reporting because it's literally just crossing moments before you came on the air. First, though, I I just have to ask you, you know, your reaction. When you first see the post from the Pentagon that states that you,

1:53:47 former air force secretary,

1:53:49 have have lost your classified

1:53:51 inform your classified status, it's been revoked effective immediately.

1:53:56 What did you think, and did you find out from that post?

1:54:00 Well, Erin, it certainly made my weekend more interesting.

1:54:04 When I found out about it, my wife and I were at a cooking class. I'd given her for a couple's cooking class. I'd given her as a gift for her birthday.

1:54:10 Our kids were off.

1:54:13 Darren says, guy's flogging a book. Let's remember that. Number one, he's flogging a book. And it's probably the worst book ever written because he's bloviating.

1:54:20 But nobody

1:54:22 cares about he was at a cooking class when the call came in saying your clearance has been pulled, know.

1:54:28 And the guy goes on and on to to complain about this.

1:54:32 And so

1:54:33 he's he's kind of in the O'Reilly League for for bloviating, I think.

1:54:37 And so that's what he's mad about. But here's what what bugged me when I when I saw this. I thought, you know, I was with a couple of Fortune 500 companies and when the ride was over, it was give us your credit card,

1:54:48 expense account is cancelled. Your email's been deleted

1:54:52 and thank you very much and then you maybe you'll see your pension in twenty years. You know, that was it. But these government guys,

1:54:58 I guess, they consider, you know, it it just keeps rolling on

1:55:02 And apparently, having that security clearance entitles him to all kinds of government consulting, advisory boards, and, you know, roles with defense contractors. He can, you know, just pass

1:55:14 the blather and collect some nice checks for being an alleged wired in expert, you know. Well, yeah. Because that would have been the wrong business. Yeah. Exactly.

1:55:23 So so then I checked about it. He said he's going to sue them. Right? So, I saw a legal thing that said the Supreme Court held

1:55:30 in Department of the Navy versus Egan in 1988 that quote,

1:55:34 no one has a right to a security clearance,

1:55:38 and that decisions about access to classified information are committed

1:55:42 to the executive branch's broad discretion.

1:55:45 So there. Now do you normally keep security clearances once you are retired?

1:55:50 Apparently, a lot of these guys do. And if you recall, I mean, I think Hillary was ticked off when Trump pulled hers after he was elected. Right? Yeah. A whole bunch of people. She she didn't speak about suing anyone. This is new with this guy. But that but that's part that's part of the part of the gig is you keep your security clearance so you're on all the cool email lists and you use that and you're consulting. Yeah. It's great. Yeah.

1:56:13 Then you can go on Fox News and MS Now and spew things, and everybody gets a little piece.

1:56:19 Yeah.

1:56:20 Mhmm. Hey. Are you guys gonna bring someone in on Sunday?

1:56:22 We had Steve Jones

1:56:25 just volunteered today, which Steve is great.

1:56:30 He said he'd want the whole Podfather,

1:56:32 Moochu,

1:56:33 Arian three twenty. So he said he's all set. I have no idea how he sounds. I've never spoken to him. He's he's been helping me for,

1:56:41 man, I wanna say at least three years, maybe four years

1:56:46 with with clips. He's the guy that that got John's three by threes.

1:56:50 Oh, really? Yeah. He would always do the three by threes for for John, and he would pull the Sunday morning things for me. You know, the the early Sunday morning shows. Steve is good. Well, of course, he might sound like Mickey Mouse. I don't know. That's what we need to know. Processing and that'll be fine. I encourage you guys to work with some of these No Agenda Nation people. This is you know, we we're we're creating a kind of a new format with the show, I'm liking what I'm hearing. I said I know he would bring his own clips.

1:57:19 I like yeah. Like the That helps. Yeah. He might have enough clips for everybody for the show. Oh, really? When he sends them in, I'm like Woah. He's pretty good at it. He's pretty good at it. And get some women in there. Where are the women? Hey, I put a word out. I don't know if she got the message yet, but Dame Jennifer, was the first one Larry and I thought of for

1:57:37 sitting in,

1:57:38 you know, from animated No Agenda film Yeah. And Absolutely. Adding a different voice that, you know, has less testosterone might be Yes. She definitely

1:57:48 A preferred way to go.

1:57:50 Low voice doesn't doesn't mean you have high testosterone. You both sound pretty low t to me. Yeah. Maybe it was very very very tired and

1:57:59 it's probably all the mainstream media.

1:58:01 Yeah. It's those moments you fool around with. It'll get to you though. Right? You're watching this stuff all day long. It it it tires you out. It's it's amazing.

1:58:10 Because you can't believe it is repeating itself over

1:58:15 and over and over. I've got one more here. This is a Julian Epstein, no relation I'm assuming.

1:58:20 He is a Clinton attorney. He was the one that

1:58:25 when Bill was going through his little problem with Monica Lewinsky, think he was one of the attorneys. He was the attorney when Hillary ran for president. And his view

1:58:35 of the current media situation I thought was interesting.

1:58:38 You rely for MSN on MSNBC for news. I think you're basically illiterate and uninformed about what's going on. I think that's somewhat it's less true for CNN, but also true. Julian Epstein, I'm a longtime Democrat.

1:58:51 I was formerly the chief counsel of the House Judiciary Committee and the staff director of the House Oversight Committee for the Democrats.

1:58:59 I'm the former CEO of the consulting firm,

1:59:02 LMG,

1:59:03 which represented

1:59:05 amongst other people Hillary Clinton for president

1:59:08 and a number of other Democrats.

1:59:10 Mainstream media is sort of covering the Democratic infighting and hinting at the possibility of a civil war. We are in a civil war right now. I think the news media is missing that. But I think I know. Say in the quiet parts out loud. Really? What? Civil war? What? Democrats? No. They're all Just Larry, particularly, just love your neighbor. Love your enemies.

1:59:33 It's and when you know what? When you when you I do. When you when you show them love, it's like pouring hot coals on their head. It's it it is I've tried this. It's really fun.

1:59:45 Just love them. I you know, my my route is this, Adam. I Here we go. I I

1:59:52 pull a ball cap low on my head like some movie star. I put on my mirrored sunglasses,

1:59:57 put the buds in my ears, and then I said moose on bark at anything.

2:00:02 And I walked down the street and no one ever speaks to me and then I'm good with that. Why are you in Connecticut?

2:00:08 That's a great question.

2:00:10 God, that's not a great question.

2:00:13 Because he went from California Yeah. To that

2:00:18 Yeah. Well, you know what happened? As you know, Los Angeles just went to hell

2:00:23 and I wanted to leave and then suddenly I found both my daughters were on the East Coast.

2:00:28 And my wife was kind of fond of this area. She used to come up here in the summertime as a kid. Okay.

2:00:33 Are you near Armonk at all?

2:00:36 Well, I'm probably a 100 miles from that. That's IBM.

2:00:39 That's No. That's Oh, you got a beach house. It's Larry in the beach house. That's nice.

2:00:45 Yeah. So But he's in the basement because he was afraid he was gonna have people cutting the lawn again.

2:00:50 Oh, there's always somebody cutting a lawn. Always. That's

2:00:53 suburbia, baby. That's how it works. Suburbia. Yeah. But that's that's what I do. So, you know, that way I don't have to to interface with anyone. Okay.

2:01:02 Well, you're perfect for you're perfect for podcasting. You're perfect Exactly.

2:01:07 Right now. I think the news media is missing that. But I think more importantly, they're missing the nature of the extremism

2:01:13 that is happening with

2:01:16 the left.

2:01:17 And they're missing the bigotry

2:01:19 that is emerging on the left. Seeing critical race is basically a

2:01:24 permission slip for more bigotry.

2:01:26 It's to divide tell people that most important thing about them is race and then to start building public policy around that. That's what critical race is.

2:01:35 And

2:01:37 now that they have embraced Islamic

2:01:41 extremism,

2:01:43 They have gone one step further into a sectarian

2:01:49 set of beliefs.

2:01:51 And I don't think the news media is covering that, and they should be covering that. You I know. So surprising, isn't it?

2:01:58 Yeah.

2:01:59 Well, but this this is the ploy. This is this is this is we

2:02:04 love

2:02:05 pitting people sides against each other in America. That's what we do. And so this that's exactly where the political Islam is is that's the one. Everyone's

2:02:16 only looking at that issue.

2:02:18 Not looking at anything else.

2:02:21 Right. It's the whole distraction thing. It is It's the point.

2:02:24 Get everybody as you said, this is going back to the weather underground manifesto.

2:02:29 Everybody, it's a black against white. It's people against the cops. It's the rich against the poor. As long as you are creating

2:02:36 division,

2:02:37 you can get away with a lot more. And it's interesting when you're seeing Democrats that are coming out with this.

2:02:43 It shows there is at least some kind of a fracture going on. How big is it? I don't know.

2:02:57 Look at the Muslims. They're taking over.

2:03:00 Squirrel.

2:03:03 Oh, we're doing a jingle off, are we? Okay. Oh, really? Nothing to see.

2:03:07 Oh, look at that. Uh-huh. That that's fully into a I

2:03:13 got them all, man. I got them all. I got them all at at the ready. Can't wait. This I wanted to play this clip real quick. It's short.

2:03:20 Because we were talking about this

2:03:23 on the show in it must have been 2009,

2:03:27 I'm gonna say. Maybe it was 2008.

2:03:29 Dvorak at the time said, it's it's never gonna happen. It's never gonna go in there. I got kicked out of my house under eminent domain for this thing.

2:03:38 And of course, I'm referring to the high speed rail. The inspector general for California high speed rail says the project could run out of money as soon as December 2027 is part of the updated review of the project's revised 2026 business plan. The inspector general says the plan still has major gaps in information and violates California state law.

2:03:57 The lack of cash means the project could face a financial crisis unless lawmakers and the governor address it by the end of the legislative session.

2:04:04 The session closes at the end of this month. It's like fifteen years and the thing goes to Bakersfield or something like that. It goes nowhere. Goes nowhere. And I think they're already some some insane amount, $8,090,000,000,000

2:04:18 in the hole on it. And there's been a little bit of like concrete

2:04:22 superstructure

2:04:23 built out in the middle of nowhere surrounded by mud. And I checked on this.

2:04:28 The first high speed rail was built in Japan, begun in 1956.

2:04:32 I think it was completed in, like, 1958

2:04:35 or '59.

2:04:36 How about that? It's still running. Well, and now there's a third party that's doing one from is it LA to Vegas?

2:04:43 Oh, yeah. Oh, please. Oh, please.

2:04:45 Allegedly. That that's that's a five hour drive and it's a rite of passage.

2:04:50 Yeah. It is. Should never

2:04:52 should never been be done by train. You gotta drive it in your rented convertible. Right. That's that's that's what you do. That's what you do.

2:05:00 Yeah. Or your Tesla. It'll just drive you. Hey.

2:05:04 I talked to the back office

2:05:06 and

2:05:07 sir Paul Couture,

2:05:09 who we know from noagendaartgenerator.com

2:05:12 Yes. Has created

2:05:14 a special

2:05:16 memorial

2:05:17 challenge coin

2:05:20 of JCD.

2:05:22 Very much. And I can't wait for everybody to see these.

2:05:27 It is just

2:05:29 an unbelievably

2:05:31 beautiful coin. I want them to get them numbered,

2:05:34 so you know, so you can get a number.

2:05:36 And we'll figure out how we're gonna do that. And then we also have

2:05:41 I think we're gonna do for people who complete their knighthood, so if you're close, you'll like this.

2:05:47 An Order of the Ant

2:05:49 pin.

2:05:50 That's

2:05:51 cool. I like that. And then you're gonna put in the little like

2:05:55 a micro

2:05:56 piezo speaker whatever they call that that plays the that'd

2:06:01 be great. Either that or a little lighter, you know, because you gotta torch him. You know, you gotta torch him. You gotta torch him. You gotta torch him.

2:06:08 Alright.

2:06:10 So you guys wanna do donations? Is it that time? I I haven't kept track of the time. Do you have anything else, Larry?

2:06:16 If you want a quickie from our buddy Hassan Piker. Oh, yeah. Well, why not end with good comie? Explain explain this guy to me. What's up with this Hassan Piker guy?

2:06:27 I you know what? I'm trying to figure that out myself, Adam, because he's really He reminds me of Remember this was a character named Destiny?

2:06:35 He's he's kind of a lefty, very lefty guy.

2:06:39 And this is like a larger version of him, but become He's become way more popular. I don't understand why, because

2:06:45 negative. He's got a very snotty sort of attitude all the time.

2:06:50 And like all commies,

2:06:51 he is a fake commie as this as this clip will demonstrate.

2:06:56 At what point does your very expensive home stop being basic human necessity

2:07:02 as something that essentially reinforces the very system that you're critiquing?

2:07:06 I don't think the purchases that you make necessarily

2:07:09 I mean, if you're buying a private jet, it's a little different. But I don't think the purchases that you make Stop. Off as long as you're

2:07:16 So you hear that? You can buy anything except a private jet. That's going too far. You can buy a million dollar house Yes.

2:07:23 Yacht.

2:07:25 But what he's talking about here is this guy, he has a $20.22

2:07:29 and $2,700,000

2:07:30 house in West Hollywood, like five bedrooms bath swimming pool. Where does he get that from? From doing what? Exactly. His podcast. He's an influencer, obviously. Right? He's an influencer. The podcaster.

2:07:41 Yeah. Yeah. I gotta get me an Instagram account. This is no good. It's crazy. If you go call me, the money is there some for some reason. I don't understand. Exactly. Yeah.

2:07:50 And he should be giving it all away, shouldn't he? Absolutely.

2:07:53 Not using it to to engage in capital accumulation,

2:07:57 imply,

2:07:58 you know, something less ethical than than whatever

2:08:03 whatever purchase you're making in general.

2:08:05 I have a house. The reason why it's so expensive is because it's in West Hollywood.

2:08:11 It's in West Hollywood. Yeah. That's why. That's good. It'd be even more expensive if it was in Beverly Hills, which is it's adjacent to that, you know. That's right. That's You don't have to live there? Oh, you gotta live that. That's funny. Yeah. Good for him.

2:08:26 And West West

2:08:28 Hollywood is the equivalent of the Castro in San Francisco. At least it used to be. Very, very gay.

2:08:34 Socialism, but at the same time is buying multimillion

2:08:37 homes, and his exact words are, it's okay if I do it as long as you don't do capital accumulation.

2:08:43 Well, capital accumulation means that you have a very large net worth. Let's just see how much he is worth. If we look at his net worth, we're looking at around an estimate of 20 to $35,000,000.

2:08:56 To me, that seems like you're accumulating a pretty large amount of capital. If we look at his income, he's making $2,800,000

2:09:03 in just a couple years from things like subscriptions and donations.

2:09:07 And if we look at how much does he actually make per year according to sources,

2:09:12 it looks like he averages in the 4 plus million dollar range in recent years. So that seems to me like he is benefiting pretty well on the capitalist system, yet he's pushing socialism.

2:09:25 Yeah. Oh, he's Thanksgiving

2:09:27 and outlaw boomers.

2:09:29 That's him He's

2:09:30 he's he's Chunk's nephew.

2:09:34 Is he? Yes. Yes. He was

2:09:37 at the Young Turks. Oh, okay. Yeah.

2:09:40 And by the way, the name piker is also a word and it means penny ante gambler.

2:09:46 So

2:09:49 Nice. Very nice.

2:09:51 Yeah. I think that wraps it up.

2:09:56 That yeah. You gotta go man. Yeah. Have to.

2:10:00 Well, we should go commie, but I will start us off with the

2:10:04 with our donation segment here because this is and remains a Value4Value podcast. You gotta support the work

2:10:12 if you want it to continue.

2:10:14 Larry and Darren also Value4Value

2:10:17 on the on the show now,

2:10:20 which I really appreciate.

2:10:22 You hear Chris Wilson's intro to the donation segment the other day? I did not. Was that Sunday? Because I I dropped off after we were done. Yeah. So it's just a quick little bit. Yeah. Play it play It's very Chris Wilson. This is your amygdala. Shut up, slaves.

2:10:37 This is the main mainstream media. We are concerned about the trouble and training the irresponsible.

2:10:42 One-sided news stories playing in the country. This is your amygdala without no agenda.

2:10:49 Any questions?

2:10:51 No questions.

2:10:53 Oh, man.

2:10:54 Well, time, talent, and treasure is how you support the show, your time, and your talent. You can tell somebody about the podcast, tell someone about the show. You can send them boots on the ground report. That's how I got my information about the

2:11:07 about the power and the the GE turbines. We get these from our producers who are right in the field who know exactly what's going on. You can do other things like create artwork for the show,

2:11:18 which I'm I've not been involved in the selection for the past shows and I have to say, I thought the last one that you guys chose for episode eighteen ninety three titled En Banque,

2:11:29 which the constitutional lawyer sent us a a mini war and peace. Yes.

2:11:34 And

2:11:35 I I it was maybe it was the formatting of the email, but I was I like I my eyes started to glaze

2:11:41 over. Did you guys get what he was saying? He I kind of and then he had the PDFs

2:11:46 of what it was.

2:11:48 But

2:11:49 it was just again a case of a

2:11:52 literal swinging dick story, which was interesting.

2:11:55 I think I don't think I saw that email. Expect nothing short of that from the constitution. From the constitutional lawyer. You you know, he hasn't you gotta look at his Instagram.

2:12:04 Okay.

2:12:05 He's at boots and suits.

2:12:07 Because he's he's, you know, he's like, you got the you got the big guys who just wanna settle quick and you got us. He's got his cowboy hat on, he's got his boots

2:12:17 Like, and we'll go for the top money. Have you been hurt on the job? Call us boots and suits. Yeah.

2:12:26 So Scaramanga did this one.

2:12:28 Yes.

2:12:29 And I I've kinda missed the conversation about the guy who wants to be in the WNBA.

2:12:37 What's his name? There

2:12:38 were several.

2:12:39 Inez Former NBA guy.

2:12:41 Then there was there was a couple of them at least and then they it seems like there may have been more and it was basically trying to make the WNBA make a rule that says dudes can't play, but of course, they're

2:12:52 not doing it. I I think I think this is great. This is almost like that's like the shop teacher who was wearing the the huge fake boobs. Remember that? Wisconsin.

2:13:01 I was yeah. I was insistent

2:13:03 that both

2:13:04 Darren and Adam apply as well. Imagine how famous you'd both be. You got the heights. Both six foot five, you're tall enough. Right? So just demand that. Come on. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. Thanks. Starting the podcast. Basketball

2:13:17 league.

2:13:18 Yeah.

2:13:19 I have to move to San Antonio, play for the first. Yeah. But the Sacks, I mean, that right there, go for the joke. That's what we learned from the art. It

2:13:28 was good. You and Jay Zed always go for the joke and that sold it. The team name being the Sacks.

2:13:34 And in a fun way, it was

2:13:37 you know, it was John's favorite kind of kind of art.

2:13:41 Yeah. The Yeah. Little cheesecake?

2:13:43 Cheesecake.

2:13:44 Just a different just a maybe a little little, you know, a little different cheesecake. Yeah. Cheesecake with a 10:00 shadow. And I would say he's rolling over he would probably say, this is grotesque.

2:13:53 We can't use this. He might.

2:13:57 Might not be wrong.

2:13:58 Scaremanga, good job, man. Do you guys review the the other arts? Let's see what else. We both really like the capitalist agenda honoring JCD, but it was too small for album art, but we both agree that would be nice as a print with the diner setting,

2:14:13 the classic

2:14:16 blanking on the artist name that did it. They've looking into the diner at night.

2:14:20 It was a Edwin Hopper style, that classic, you know, it's usually Bogart and Marilyn Monroe and, you it's been reconfigured

2:14:27 a thousand. I see. But, yeah, that was that's what it was. Look oh, I see it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Was too small. Too small. Too small. I like the Etch A Sketch a lot but not The Etch A Sketch is great. I I think Jay used it in the newsletter.

2:14:42 She did. I think it's a cool image. Yeah. It's the it's the official No Agenda phone.

2:14:46 Also capital agenda. So he's doing good work. And you know what? Once JCD was gone, the real artist came back.

2:14:55 Coincidence?

2:14:56 They they they did not. They didn't like to be

2:15:00 B rated. B

2:15:02 B rated. B rated. Better.

2:15:04 Something something up with that. Something up with that. Hey, I'm telling you Of course. That some of the days Jay Zed really ripped into me were the days he was like, hey, can you make me some art?

2:15:14 Yeah. I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah, man. I'm sure. Like it's a bit. Come on.

2:15:19 We got good support today. I'm I'm really I'm really grateful for people who understand that if you want the show to continue and now there's, you know, we're we're sharing this with Larry and Darren.

2:15:31 So there's now

2:15:33 four families and 18 children depending on, on

2:15:37 your support of the No Agenda show. And, we thank Randy Filkins from Wellsburg, West Virginia who comes in, boom,

2:15:46 with a thousand dollars plus fees, one thousand fifty two sixty two,

2:15:50 and he has a prayer.

2:15:52 Heavenly father,

2:15:53 I pray you place your hand on the hearts of JCD's family and friends and guide them through their pain and loss. Amen. Thank you, Randy. That is very very kind of you. Wow. And that helps. It does. We've been doing a lot of praying for JCD, a lot of praying for the family. Praying for

2:16:10 other families as well like

2:16:13 Horowitz.

2:16:14 Know, it's been a it's been a big loss for Horowitz. Their show was going on almost as long as No Agenda.

2:16:20 You know? And

2:16:22 and I know because, know, Horowitz

2:16:24 is calling a couple times a week. Berneti is calling a couple times a week. These, you know, they had real relationships with John that went beyond my I probably talked to John longer on a weekly basis,

2:16:35 but they talked to him often.

2:16:37 Yeah. It's a different dynamic. And it's for Horowitz. It's like you it's JCD is not replaceable. Somebody said, oh, it took at least two guys to replace JCD.

2:16:47 And, yeah, it's probably could be three or four or more.

2:16:50 And that that's the thing. It's like my grieving is not just for John,

2:16:55 the show. Sure. I mean, it it was he we had a performance together.

2:17:00 Yeah. You know, like Laurel and Hardy,

2:17:03 Lucy and Ricky,

2:17:05 Fred we're more like Fred and Ethel probably. I

2:17:08 mean, there were people again, nothing was better than JCD being silent for way too long and then moving on. So it's like that was just okay. Well, yeah, at the end there, he'll go, maybe. I'm like, why this maybe?

2:17:22 Yeah. What is maybe? You can't give me a maybe. There's no maybes in podcast discussions.

2:17:27 I love those broad pauses followed by, okay.

2:17:31 Yeah.

2:17:33 It's like, if you wanna if you wanna just cut somebody down, do that. It shows deep contemplation.

2:17:39 That's

2:17:40 using the silence. It's a art form.

2:17:44 Only some can do it.

2:17:46 Next, we have Baronet surplus to requirement.

2:17:50 Came in from

2:17:52 India Atlantic,

2:17:53 Florida with 38888

2:17:57 and says, rest easy, JCD. You are a legend. Condolences to all. Keep your chin up sincerely, Baron. Surplus to

2:18:06 requirement.

2:18:09 Larry, do you do these at all? You just I sure do. I sure do. It's just He looks pretty. That's all. I mean, he's good at looking pretty. I'm just here for my looks. I'm sorry. This

2:18:19 is a Karen b.

2:18:20 33888.

2:18:23 Note,

2:18:24 see attached not page two. Where's

2:18:27 that attachment?

2:18:29 What was that?

2:18:30 The

2:18:34 What does it say here? When

2:18:36 Wiffent?

2:18:37 Wiffent? Who? When because there was a PDF of the When I here. When I first saw the picture this is

2:18:46 Karen B. When I I got it here, Larry. Okay. When I first saw the picture of John in the newsletter with his real age, I was taken aback.

2:18:56 Given his great voice, wonderful human humor,

2:19:00 and

2:19:03 spinnaker? No. It's probably not it.

2:19:06 I can't

2:19:07 understand. I don't know what that word is. I was going with sick oh, sprinus.

2:19:12 I was going with 65 years old. I first came to No Agenda during COVID. It helped to maintain my sanity.

2:19:20 I've always

2:19:22 enjoyed the show because there is no hidden agenda.

2:19:26 Hidden in parens there. The best one was when John and Adam were bantering

2:19:32 back and forth. John will be greatly missed. My deepest sympathy to me, me and the family, and Adam from Karen B. Thank you, Karen, with the $303,138

2:19:39 dollars and 88¢.

2:19:43 Then Clint miss miss sorry

2:19:47 about this. Miss Denlasol,

2:19:48 Eugene, Oregon

2:19:50 with 33333

2:19:52 and no note.

2:19:54 Thank you.

2:19:56 We have next Paul from Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin 333

2:20:01 Dot 33.

2:20:02 Oh my lord. My lord again. Says another attached note page three.

2:20:07 Where is this page three? I'm not seeing it.

2:20:10 Know, don't I'm sorry. I had a PDF. I thought there was only one. I must have missed the two and three. Yeah. No. I I got it here. No Agenda has been a steadfast companion since discovering the show in 2023.

2:20:20 John's entertaining brand of wit and wisdom will be missed. Godspeed to Vorak clan. NPR is a bad product.

2:20:27 Support the No Agenda show. Donate.

2:20:30 Oh, he wants the, he wants the spooky,

2:20:34 spooky,

2:20:35 I have that. I I have John C. Spooky donate.

2:20:40 You've got Donate.

2:20:45 Donate.

2:20:47 Donate.

2:20:48 Karma.

2:20:49 It's kinda cool.

2:20:51 Cool. We we got dueling setups here. Yes. Don't know if that's dangerous or good or Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

2:20:59 And next,

2:21:00 Manuka Gold.

2:21:02 Yeah. From Hudson, Florida coming in with $250.

2:21:07 Says, in the morning, always grateful for the show. And to all of the new listeners, we sell top quality consumable and topical

2:21:14 Manuka honey products, and we offer exclusive discounts to No Agenda listeners now until Labor Day. Get a free $25 small pain relief gel with every purchase over $45

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2:21:28 Make it sweeter by using code treasure

2:21:32 at checkout for an extra 20% off. And, Larry, gotta you get them your address. They wanna send you some honey there. Very nice. You you gotta get in on that. That's I'm a honey freak. I love this honey. I can't wait to get it. That's a perk of being a No Agenda podcaster. Anyway, and I have it on good authority. It was the last thing John had in his mouth.

2:21:51 So now we know Sinatra last had a grilled cheese sandwich and Dvorak had honey. That's all you knew gold. That's right. Yeah.

2:21:59 23456

2:22:00 from E and J Electric in Colorado Springs. I wonder what they do. Well, first they say happy anniversary, Mimi and John. This is a holdover, of course. Thank you, Darren and Larry, for stepping up to the plate. It's good to hear you on the show again, Adam. Like others have shared, John and Adam have helped to shape my worldview over the years. I'm one of those that has occasionally shut off all news except for the best podcast in the universe. I know the show will never be the same without John, but as long as there is no agenda,

2:22:26 I'll be here listening in my truck as I roll out of the garage every morning. Look, well, I guess he's an electrician.

2:22:32 Looking to work with anyone in or around Colorado Springs? Find my Google page at e n j electric. That's the letters enjelectric.com.

2:22:41 Shoot me an ITM. We'll get you hooked up.

2:22:45 Nice.

2:22:46 Linda Lupatkin.

2:22:47 I do listen to the show, Adam. Yes.

2:22:50 This is my big monitor now. Can see it. Uh-huh. From Castle Rock, Colorado,

2:22:55 $200.

2:22:57 And Linda says,

2:22:59 karma. Your resume

2:23:00 has about ten seconds to make an impression and most don't. For a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com.

2:23:09 Linda turns your experience into a resume that gets you noticed, noticed, gets you interviews, and gets you hired.

2:23:15 That's ImageMakers with a k. And Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.

2:23:23 Now, is this Jobs.

2:23:25 There you go. Jobs. There it is. And Jobs. Let's vote for Jobs. Jobs. Was that the karma one, or is there a jobs jobs jobs karma, or it's just jobs jobs jobs? No. You got you got the one. Well, was that Hillary, or is that That was Hillary. The one? That was That was Pelosi. Jobs. Yeah. That's it's Pelosi. It's Pelosi. That's the right one. Is it Pelosi or it Hillary? Sounds like Hillary. No. It's Pelosi and and that karma. You did it. You did it right, man. You you nailed it. Woo.

2:23:52 Dame Lisa, Amic Lake,

2:23:55 18888.

2:23:56 I'll do a couple here.

2:23:58 Kevin Redacted from Maumelle,

2:24:01 Arizona.

2:24:02 No. Arkansas. Sorry. 10588.

2:24:06 Laura Nelson, Bixby, Oklahoma 10535

2:24:10 with love from our family to, yours.

2:24:13 They could have just been sending, some

2:24:16 Harry and David fruit basket. It's the same same thing. With love from our family to yours.

2:24:22 David Oliver, Calistoga, California, $100. Best of the No Agenda team, Larry slash Darren crushed it. I'll sneak over to Planet Rage. Are you guys doing Planet Rage while you're doing the show? It's dead. It's dead.

2:24:35 Just point your feed to No Agenda. That's fine. It's been a few weeks. I wouldn't let would we really need to swear there'll be a Planet Rage episode as a bonus?

2:24:46 Josh Corby, Euless, Texas, 100. Thank you for your service. Sir Skipity,

2:24:51 $100.

2:24:52 Please wish my sons Jen Smith Jen Smithry,

2:24:56 think it is, happy twentieth birthday celebrated yesterday on the twelfth from Michelle and sir Skibidi. If Adam has any hot tips about Jens testing for his fixed wing pilot's license in a few weeks, that would be a bonus. I would say it's for his future knighthood, but really it's an investment into the continued operation of both No Agenda and DH Unplugged. Thank you for your courage in ITM, sir Skibidi. Yes.

2:25:19 Here's the advice.

2:25:21 Don't sweat it because

2:25:23 the examiner

2:25:25 knows

2:25:26 that your pilot's license is really just a license to learn.

2:25:31 Don't don't think you have to be perfect.

2:25:34 When I did my I had got my helicopter first, when I did my fixed wing, I bounced all the way in. I mean, it it was it was a mess. And it's okay because the examiner knows,

2:25:44 you know, you're not gonna be flying alone

2:25:47 anytime soon in your own airplane because someone has to sign off on you, even flying in a rented aircraft. So it's a license to learn. You'll be fine. Don't sweat it.

2:25:58 And they need pilots. So that's the not a bad thing to do. They do. They do. Mhmm.

2:26:03 Keith r Johnson coming in with a $100 from Arlington,

2:26:07 New York says, Darren and Larry, thanks for filling in and giving Adam a break. You guys did great. Happy anniversary,

2:26:14 Mimi. Our thoughts are with you and your family. Thank you.

2:26:18 Ivan Silva of Norwalk, California. $100,

2:26:23 no note. Thank you, Ivan.

2:26:25 Suni from Muncie, Indiana 9833.

2:26:29 Hope you're not underwater, man. We got hit. Right. That was bad. She says, I think I sent a note and a donation, but I'm not sure it went through. I still think a what the exact f donation is a good idea.

2:26:40 Sunny. Well, thank you, Sunny, and sorry for saying SUNY.

2:26:45 Thomas Reynolds of Bellefontein,

2:26:47 Ohio 93 Dot 64.

2:26:50 No. No. Thank you, Thomas.

2:26:53 Christopher Spradach coming in with 90 364

2:26:56 from Moreches,

2:26:58 New York. Is that what it is, Larry? Moreches. Moreches,

2:27:01 New York. Thank you.

2:27:02 Welcome.

2:27:04 Michael Burdett

2:27:05 of Arlington,

2:27:07 Washington 88 Dot 88. No note. Thank you, Michael.

2:27:11 And sir Herb Lamb coming in with 8880

2:27:14 8 from Hilton Head Island, South Carolina.

2:27:17 Says sorry for your loss. I've been a fan of John since the late eighties.

2:27:22 Best sir Herb Lamb. Thank you, sir.

2:27:25 Ryan Teporten of Burnsville, Minnesota 88 Dot 88.

2:27:30 No note. Thank you, Ryan.

2:27:32 Coming in with 8888,

2:27:34 also anonymous

2:27:35 in Austin,

2:27:37 Texas. No note. Thank you.

2:27:40 Hank Van Elk of Luxembourg.

2:27:43 I'm sorry. Elk. Thank you. You wanna finish this one, Adam? Yeah. I will. Since I speak the language. You can. Van Elk in the tax haven of Luxembourg.

2:27:53 No one else lives there but bankers and the people who service them. 8888,

2:27:58 rest in peace JCD, still no words for his loss. My prayers are with you all. Hank from Luxembourg.

2:28:03 James Carter, Spicewood, Texas, right down the road. 8888,

2:28:07 please accept my treasure and deepest condolences for the entire Dvorak clan. PS, Adam, my keeper hit a surprise in the scoreboard at the Arrowhead Bank there in Freddy

2:28:17 to honor JCD.

2:28:18 God bless you. What? What is that all about? That's fascinating.

2:28:22 Well, I I know exactly where that is. I hit a surprise in this. So,

2:28:27 okay.

2:28:28 Yeah. I I shall report back. I like that.

2:28:32 May be from jail if I'm trying to mess up with this scribble.

2:28:36 Jill O'bringer, Wayne, New Jersey. Ah, the Fountains Of Wayne. 8888.

2:28:40 The ghost of JCD told me to donate.

2:28:44 He invaded the Apple Home Pod in our bathroom and my husband and I are sleeping. I said if this happened three times, I will donate and it did. Whatever works.

2:28:53 Sir?

2:28:55 Ten feet tall. Ten feet tall. Thank you. Of Woodstock, Georgia 8888.

2:28:59 Thank you, JCD and Dvorak family. Much love to you and the rest of the No Agenda family family from sir ten feet tall of Agnar.

2:29:06 Anonymous in Fishers, Indiana 8888.

2:29:09 These are all 8888.

2:29:11 Dame Theresa Martin from Camarillo,

2:29:14 California.

2:29:16 Ari Conna in Hollywood, Florida. Catherine Gerard in Pahrump, Nevada Nevada.

2:29:23 Brian Rena in Keynesburg, New Jersey. Carmen Sue Tyler in New York, New York. Dean Warmel in Westford, Massachusetts.

2:29:31 And

2:29:32 Larry, you can take it with Donna. Donna Walters, Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin 88 Dot 40.

2:29:38 Note says birthday shout to my son Ryan. Turned 40 on August eleven five zero eight in the morning. Donna Walters, Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin. Thank you, Donna.

2:29:48 Then Dame Rita Harrington coming in with 8833

2:29:51 from Sparks, Nevada. The note just says thank you and no thank you. I think I told you I met her. She was at the she was at the memorial.

2:30:00 She's super cute.

2:30:02 She looks exactly like a Dame Rita, like you'd expect her to look. Like, she says, I'm Rita from Nevada. Wait a minute. Dame Rita, come here. Bring it in, girl. She's great. She's great.

2:30:14 Coming up. Cameron Ling Ling?

2:30:17 North Branch, Minnesota.

2:30:19 8149.

2:30:21 Mini show number, ITM. Thanks, Laren and Derry. Got that, Derry? Yeah. Thank you, Cameron. Very close. And then, of course, Kevin McLaughlin.

2:30:31 He comes in from Concord, North Carolina, lover of boobs, 8008

2:30:35 donation,

2:30:37 and says,

2:30:38 Archduke of Luna, lover of America, and boobs.

2:30:42 Gilbert Fraga of Los Angeles, 8008.

2:30:47 No note. Thank you, Gilbert.

2:30:49 Joseph Stegman coming in also with the eight zero zero eight boobs donation from Thousand Oaks, California. Thank you.

2:30:57 Teresa Sebastian of Southbridge, Massachusetts,

2:31:00 $80 even. No. No. Thank you, Teresa.

2:31:03 Dame Dana Carroll coming in from Laughlin, Nevada, 7227.

2:31:10 Thank you very much.

2:31:12 Steven Shoemake

2:31:14 of Xenia, Ohio 64 Dot 80. No note. Thank you, Steven. Les Tarkowski coming in with sixty o six. A lot of those palindromes from Kingman, Arizona. It's a small it's a small boob. Small boob. But that's small boobs. Small boobs. Yes.

2:31:29 That Kingman, Arizona getting that kicks on Route 66. You didn't read the binder about the show? No. It was wait. There was a binder?

2:31:37 There was homework. Send it over. It's with the book of knowledge. It'll answer all the questions.

2:31:42 Christopher Decker, 5678.

2:31:44 We see what you did there, Christopher. Thank you. Craig Noesley, Cumberland, British Columbia. One more donation for this month of months, mostly as an apology for inundating

2:31:52 Laren, dairy Laren,

2:31:54 Darren, and Darren, and Adam with an obscene amount of picks from the carbon kitchen,

2:31:59 as we say in Scandinavia.

2:32:01 Sorry, And it was the house of metal. Luke Mannell, Los Angeles, 5272.

2:32:06 Brad Bowman in Duluth, Minnesota, 5218. And here's the fifties.

2:32:10 We never do under 50 for reasons of anonymity.

2:32:13 Tim Del Vecchio, Blandon, Pennsylvania. Gary Mau in Woodland Hills, California. Sir Alex Zavala from Kyle, Texas.

2:32:21 Dame Patricia Worthington, Miami, Florida. Brandon Savoy, Port Orchard,

2:32:25 Washington Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina Kerry Jackson, Watertown, Tennessee Jason Deluzio, Miami Beach, Florida Aichi Kitagawa from San Francisco and Walker Phillips from San Rafael, California rounds us out for the the treasure

2:32:41 portion of the Value4Value,

2:32:43 Time, Talent, and Treasure. We thank you all so very much for supporting the show. It

2:32:49 it means a lot and you don't wanna be a douchebag for another one of us to drop dead. Because so many people felt so bad about not donating before John passed. It's unbelievable. Everybody always thinks there's more time.

2:33:03 Yeah. There never is. And did you do a troll count?

2:33:09 I didn't, actually.

2:33:10 Let me take a look. Do you have the the troll count? Do you have we can't. Oh, there we go. Let

2:33:16 me take a look. Let me see what the the max was. We had 845

2:33:22 trolls,

2:33:24 peak trollage.

2:33:25 JCD would not be happy with that number. No.

2:33:28 Not be. No.

2:33:30 No. But, you know, I've had the feeling this will just take some time.

2:33:34 People will get used to it.

2:33:36 We still make an outstanding product.

2:33:39 And I've the my favorite complaint now is Larry and Darren's VoiceSound two radio.

2:33:46 Oh, there oh, there's a lot of that. I got one. God, this one lady.

2:33:50 She's like,

2:33:53 they're no good. First of just they're no good. She's not wrong.

2:33:58 And

2:33:59 and, but, of course, I should do the show with Mimi. It always starts with that. And, I don't know about that Larry guy. He seems very dark. I don't think he's good. You should probably stay away from him.

2:34:11 Oh, she's right on all counts. Yeah. Very dark. There's something very dark about that Larry guy. Yeah. I enjoy you guys. I enjoy listening to you. I mean, I I may not be on the show the whole time, but I enjoy listening to you. Well, that is appreciated.

2:34:26 We're glad to know that. It's cathartic for me. It really is. It's There was one makeup jingle as well from Knight of Sandy Ridge. I guess it was from 1889.

2:34:36 I've got Pat's blue ribbon on my Pat's blue

2:34:42 ribbon on my Wow.

2:34:44 Now there's a callback. Become quite the thing. People are sending you hats now in case you hadn't received.

2:34:49 Oh, man. That was a great and John got irked by it at the end. He was mad. Stop it. Stop

2:34:55 it with the patch blue ribbon. Well, then stop opening your soda can on the air.

2:35:00 Right. I mean, you can just do it away from the microphone.

2:35:04 It was a good bit, though. Theater was a mind. It was a good bit. You know, we and just wanna just a little callback. I

2:35:11 really love what

2:35:13 who did the opening? The the opener?

2:35:16 Jess

2:35:18 No. No. Not Jess. Jess Baker. Jess Jess

2:35:22 Baker. Jess Baker. Baker. I was getting around to it. Jess Booger.

2:35:28 Jess Baker.

2:35:30 Excellent. But it's not really a jingle. I said, you need the you need the opening music in there. People should be sending it in. Did you get the stuff from sir Brian with an I?

2:35:38 No. I I forward it I forward it to you. I thought I sent it to you. No. We we should this should be a contest.

2:35:45 That's really Create the opening. Oh, there were two that were very AI ish. Maybe that was the multi sentence. Yeah. That was the problem. They were very AI ish. I mean, and Just Baker does that. He knows what he's doing with AI.

2:35:58 That guy knows what he's doing.

2:36:00 Yeah. That's well, that was good. I like the sound of it. We just needed a little more extended

2:36:05 so we can do the a proper intro. But if other people like I said, we're not married to this quite as of yet, so, throw your hat in. You can have the Yeah. Add that to your IMDb page, created the theme for

2:36:20 the No Agenda show.

2:36:24 So noagendanoagendadonations.com.

2:36:27 That's where you can support the show.

2:36:29 I don't have the meet ups. I do have the the birthdays. I'll do the birthdays real quick.

2:36:36 Yeah.

2:36:42 We have sir Skibbidi and Michelle wishing their son, Jens Mathry,

2:36:46 I believe, a very happy birthday celebrated his twentieth, yesterday. And Donna Walters wishes her son, Ryan, a happy birthday. He turned 40 on the eleventh. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:37:02 Alright. Who's gonna do meetups? Well, we have two meetup reports. The first one, of course Wait. You don't have the jingle? You don't have the meetup jingle? Oh, right here. There

2:37:12 we go. Agenda

2:37:15 meetups.

2:37:19 Come on, man.

2:37:22 Stay on the ball. Come on, Baron. Stay on the ball. A party. Indeed. It is like a party.

2:37:27 Oh, I gotta get a touch screen, which would make it easier too than having the mouse go over it. It's always You need

2:37:33 a second eye. That would help. Yes. That would also help. Yes. Very much. They keep telling me they're close with being, you know, the stem cells or something else being able to

2:37:44 regrow retinal tissue, which is what I mean. Do you mind if ask about this? Can I ask you a few questions? Sure.

2:37:50 What did you have eyesight in both eyes previously? This degenerate over time, or is this were you born with this? No. It was a retinal detachment that happened about ten years ago, and

2:38:03 the first surgeon could not

2:38:05 get it to stay up. So it went through multiple surgeries.

2:38:09 And by the time I got the surgeon that was able to

2:38:13 have the retina stay up, it is so scarred. There's really no vision. Just Yeah. It sucks.

2:38:20 Especially considering I was sitting in the first guy's office, and he was like, well, we don't have your referral yet because it was still just a tear at that point,

2:38:29 but without being a full detachment, which probably could have been fixed with laser.

2:38:34 But he's like, well, no. We need the

2:38:36 we need the referral, so come back tomorrow, but didn't really have till tomorrow.

2:38:41 Oh, so you've been living off the money of a loss? You you know, you should call Rob the constitutional

2:38:45 lawyer. I I think you can get some money out of this deal. Maybe. He's no good. Maybe. Yeah. You know, sounds like you're a victim of incompetence, Darren. Yes. I agree. I I think there's a lawsuit here. Kind of. Because when they went to do the surgery, the surgeon that I finally got that I trust,

2:39:01 he had to request

2:39:03 a special tool.

2:39:06 You know, basically they're sticking these things in your eye

2:39:10 to get to the back of the retina. He's like, because your eye is so big, he needed a special large tool. I'm like, well, I never heard this from the other guy. Could he keep his large tool up? Maybe the other guy couldn't. Right. That's exactly what it is. Yeah. That way you keep the eyes, you know, functioning. It's a much preferred way to go.

2:39:27 Yeah. So I just closed one eye a lot.

2:39:31 Okay. No. I I But but is it is it all gunky and and and weird looking? A little. It's getting there because they're cool. That's cool.

2:39:39 There was oil in there, which which is what kept the retina up. And since there was no vision, he's like, well, we could take the oil out, but that's another surgery. It's not gonna hurt you. And

2:39:51 after a certain amount of years, it started

2:39:54 scarring the cornea so there Wait a minute. Tell me you wear an eye patch. No. I really should. Yeah. Eye patch is cool, man. You're six five, eye patch, you know, you'll scare little children. You should I I I'm just saying, if it were me, I'd be wearing an eye patch. Know, I have a friend

2:40:09 and she

2:40:11 lost her eye many years ago

2:40:14 and

2:40:15 and she can she just pops it out. In fact, she went back to her

2:40:20 her

2:40:21 college reunion

2:40:22 and they were doing like, you know, running around, you know, the old sorority

2:40:27 sisters,

2:40:28 like running around with beer across an obstacle course or something and she tripped and fell and her eye popped out. I

2:40:36 mean, awesome.

2:40:38 Just awesome. Nobody's gonna forget that. No. No. Eye patch. Eye patch is what I'm saying. And talk like a pirate down. Right. What you've heard of. Arr. I wear the eye patch. I'll everybody will know if we when they do a meetup who would who the guy with the eye patch is. Yes. Yeah.

2:40:54 Nice. But really, I remember the greatest thing about that whole thing was sending in the No Agenda note afterwards and Dvorak reading it and you could tell he was uncomfortable

2:41:05 with the whole sticking needles in the eye and I was down for like twelve weeks. Oh, that's right. I remember that. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. And that was the worst part. I mean, if they would have just said no, your eyes screwed up. I mean, I could have saved 12 if still don't have vision. You may as well just have let it go. It was like twelve weeks of being faced down for really no payoff at the end, which Wow.

2:41:29 Which kinda sucked.

2:41:30 Yeah. So donate to the one eyed podcast. JC would be like, don't let this opportunity go.

2:41:36 That one. You can call it the patch cast. Right. There you go. Yeah. I like that.

2:41:42 How about there were a few more meetups here including the Fort Lauderdale eight eight twenty twenty six JCB

2:41:48 tribute.

2:41:49 This, of course, Andrew Horowitz

2:41:52 and

2:41:53 you can play this. I haven't heard this yet. In the morning, everybody. This is Scott Alt from the Winning the Week podcast.

2:41:59 And

2:42:00 I just wanna say we're having a good time over here at the Fort Lauderdale Meetup in memory of John. There'll never be another one. And I wish you guys were here with us, but you're not. So we're gonna have fun without you in the morning.

2:42:12 A $100, Just wanna thank you guys for setting us up. We really appreciate, and we're with you guys on everything you're gonna go forward with. Thank you for all the history.

2:42:22 In the morning, my name is Juliana. I'm here to celebrate John and everything he's given me. I consider John my friend

2:42:29 and Adam and also Andrew.

2:42:32 Everybody,

2:42:33 thank you for inviting me to your likes.

2:42:39 I am Hans

2:42:41 Mathry,

2:42:42 Sugar Skibbidi.

2:42:44 Sugar Skibbidi. Listen to the both both the shows for ages.

2:42:47 And I've I really miss John, and I hope everybody's doing well.

2:42:52 Thanks for thanks for all the podcast.

2:42:56 My name is Clay Bassweis. I'm from Miami,

2:42:59 sir Bassweis. And I started listening to John in 2008,

2:43:02 and I listened to Agenda back then and it was terrible. Well,

2:43:07 wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. That's not the way to do a meetup report. No. It's great. It's great. Roll it. Roll it. Didn't listen again till 2012, and then that is a lot better. So I do miss John. Last eighteen years giving me advice via podcast.

2:43:21 So John, we miss a lot, and all the respect and love to his family for everything, for giving us so much of John's time. Always

2:43:28 miss you too, Adam. Alright. Thank you. Yeah. My name Ken. I discovered the No Agenda show through Joe Rogan actually right after right during the pandemic. And,

2:43:39 John,

2:43:40 was somebody

2:43:41 that,

2:43:42 I just enjoyed his voice hearing it, and, he was always, to me, a voice of reason.

2:43:47 I also had a lot of affection for him, because he's from California, and I'm from California California originally.

2:43:53 And,

2:43:54 you know, I'm gonna miss him,

2:43:56 a lot.

2:43:57 And, I hope, he, took that last, Amtrak Zephyr train

2:44:04 to the next world. So God bless him, and may he rest in peace. Alright. You got it.

2:44:11 Paul Baronet and I've been listening to Andrew and John for, gosh, many years.

2:44:17 Actually, John and I go way back even free. And actually, when I found that John was doing a podcast with Andrew,

2:44:25 I didn't know Andrew, but I knew John from, the old days of Silicon Valley and of course, lot of his work with PC Magazine,

2:44:32 and had followed him around, and of course, found Andrew, and then realized he lived in my hometown. That was how we all kinda got together. So that's kinda been my

2:44:42 my history. I I guess it's probably been about ten years. I know

2:44:46 the DH Unplugged

2:44:48 podcast is one of the oldest ones out there, so it's been a while since

2:44:52 they got going. Gosh, I think

2:44:54 even the first time I had listened to John, it was when he was with Leo Laporte

2:44:59 over on Twitter, and that was probably fifteen years ago. So I spent quite a while listening to him on DH Unplugged.

2:45:07 I'm

2:45:08 Chris Marble. I've listened to No Agenda since 2020 and

2:45:12 DH Unplugged for about five and a half years. What are you what are you gonna miss about John? I

2:45:18 mean, everything. I feel like he's my grumpy spirit animal, and his alternate

2:45:24 way of looking at everything on on planet Earth is gonna be just a lot for sure.

2:45:29 Oh, hi.

2:45:30 My name is Leslie Wilbur.

2:45:32 I've been listening to No Agenda since about 2021,

2:45:36 and, I'm from Loxahatchee,

2:45:38 Florida. And I'm so excited that we're meeting here. And, John, I'm gonna miss you so much. I think what I'm gonna miss most is you saying bull crap. Hey.

2:45:49 It's Andrew. And Jill. And Jill. And we're here at the NADHU

2:45:54 meetup for JCD. A lot of acronyms and symbolized

2:45:57 terms right there, but it's wonderful to have everybody here. It's wonderful for this great day to honor such a great man and

2:46:04 all that he has meant to us.

2:46:07 And Mimi, the gang, Jay, and JC, and everybody

2:46:12 wanna say hello and and let you know that we're thinking about you. A lot of people are right here thinking about you as well. So We send you all of our deepest condolences and send a lot of love

2:46:21 and healing prayers to the whole family.

2:46:25 Sweet.

2:46:26 Very interesting. Andrew's wife. Yeah.

2:46:29 And JCB will always be around in audio clips. Do you find that weird that, you know, your voice is gonna go on because of doing as much content as you have

2:46:38 over the years.

2:46:39 No. I I love that. I love that. That's longevity.

2:46:44 You know, they used to say people who write will live on forever. Right.

2:46:47 There's gonna be our voices

2:46:50 on CD ROMs for generations

2:46:53 to come. USB sticks,

2:46:56 you know, all kinds of stuff. I think it's great. I hope someone finds it. You know, there's so many copies, which is always our ideas. Like, copy it. Put it anywhere you want. Make sure it's out there. You might learn something. You might. Might not. Yeah. I've always been into the old time radio stuff. So it's like this is the same thing in a hundred years. People might find this

2:47:18 and say, wow. You guys were screwed up.

2:47:22 Yeah. Exactly. We also have a second brief meetup report. This one from Springfield,

2:47:28 Missouri.

2:47:29 Hey. This is Brickmania

2:47:31 here from the meetup in Springfield, Missouri

2:47:35 at Beers Bar and Grill.

2:47:38 Here to remember

2:47:40 John C. Dvorak.

2:47:44 What

2:47:45 about that train?

2:47:48 We got we got ants.

2:47:51 It's just your adult savory.

2:47:53 Springfield, Missouri meetup. Rest in peace, John. You'll be missed. This is Corey in Springfield in the morning from the real

2:48:00 country.

2:48:01 Yeah. The real hill country. Give me a break. Uh-huh.

2:48:06 Maybe JCD did take the Zephyr over to Chicago, and that explains all the rain stick action around here. There you go.

2:48:13 We've had a little bit too much. So that's it. We hope everybody that's having these meetups can send in a meetup report.

2:48:19 Please. We do have a list of upcoming meetups as well.

2:48:24 We have tomorrow,

2:48:25 the pickleball meetup at 6PM eastern at Rockaway Beach Pickleball Court in Queens,

2:48:31 New York.

2:48:33 Also tomorrow, a drink in the honor of JCD,

2:48:36 7PM central at

2:48:38 the draft in vessel in Wattusa,

2:48:42 Wisconsin.

2:48:44 Tomorrow, the titillating

2:48:46 Tbilisi

2:48:47 tribute

2:48:48 to JCD

2:48:50 at the Buffalo Bill in Tbilisi,

2:48:53 Georgia.

2:48:54 And tomorrow,

2:48:56 we have the JCD has left the building flight of the No Agenda number 79

2:49:01 at 03:33PM

2:49:03 Pacific at the Tap Room and Restaurant in River Side, California.

2:49:08 Also Saturday,

2:49:10 the Northern Silicon Valley in memory of JCD at 03:33 Pacific. Dvorak family in attendance, it says,

2:49:17 at the Pizzeria

2:49:19 Violetta

2:49:20 in Prescott Market in Oakland,

2:49:23 California.

2:49:24 Yeah. I think Mimi and the gang are gonna be there. Nice.

2:49:28 Well, there should be a good meetup report from that one. Yeah. For sure. Bring your cash in envelopes, people. It's a widow.

2:49:36 Then on Sunday, the next show day, the RIP JCD at 2PM Central at the Dog House Lounge in Dubuque, Iowa.

2:49:43 And also on Sunday, the Red thirty three Red thirty three John C. Memorial. Thank you for your courage at 02:30

2:49:51 Boston time at the Castle Island Brewery in Norwood, Massachusetts.

2:49:57 And the TMI evacuation zone toasted John meet up at 03:30 eastern at Evergrain

2:50:03 Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.

2:50:06 And also on Sunday, drinking to Buzzkill. A lot of drinks at 04:30PM

2:50:11 Pacific at the alibi room in Vancouver,

2:50:15 British Columbia,

2:50:16 Canada.

2:50:18 And then beyond that, we have

2:50:20 a whole list from August 20, Charlotte, North Carolina, the twenty first, Richmond, Virginia, the twenty second, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Reno, Nevada,

2:50:30 and the twenty third, Indianapolis, Indiana, Benton, Arkansas.

2:50:34 And beyond that, pretty much a nice list still from Canada, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Switzerland, Pennsylvania,

2:50:41 Nebraska, New Jersey, Idaho, Arizona, North Carolina, The UK,

2:50:46 Idaho,

2:50:47 Texas,

2:50:48 the Fredericksburg,

2:50:49 October 17,

2:50:51 and then Los Altos, California, October 24, and Tilburg Of The Netherlands, October

2:50:58 24.

2:50:59 And if you wanna have your own meetup, it's easy. Just create it and go over to noagendameetups.com.

2:51:10 Well, that sounds weird. Wow.

2:51:13 Okay. Your Mac is crapping out. Your Mac is just tied, but we'll is the Mac. Here. I got you. I'm gonna refresh that page.

2:51:44 That's weird. Macs never have audio problems.

2:51:48 Until now. That's why I got off a Mac, man, for that very reason. No

2:51:53 problem until it is. I got a couple of Ixos here

2:51:57 sent in by the clip machine.

2:51:59 Just keep the vaccines away from me, dude.

2:52:03 Well, that's fitting for today's show. That it is. By the way, you know that that study about the miscarriages?

2:52:10 Yes. Yes.

2:52:11 So

2:52:12 we figured that out that it was really high.

2:52:16 Mhmm. And this was early on I think when when the serve when the study came out. And I remember talking about it and I got so much flack. You don't know what you're talking about. It's bull crap. That's not true. It's not blah blah blah. And and I had the exact same calculations and I'm, well, wait a minute. This is look at who is miscarrying and at what term.

2:52:36 And then it was probably a year later when people started to say, oh, yeah, I guess you were right. It was a was a show deconstruction

2:52:44 back in the COVID years. And it was right because you wanted Johnson is getting no attention for doing nothing will happen to Vauci. No. No. No. No. And you also understood lying with statistics and that's exactly what well, if we if we make it all trimesters, it seems like much lower number even though we know they're all in

2:53:02 these same Yeah.

2:53:05 Unbelievable.

2:53:06 Organoids

2:53:08 are alive.

2:53:13 Going to the well. Beautiful.

2:53:15 And then let's see. I mean, I thought I had clipped just the here.

2:53:25 So one of those.

2:53:30 Larry, go ahead, you choose.

2:53:35 Choose what Adam? The ISO.

2:53:37 Oh, the ISO.

2:53:39 I don't I'm I'm not seeing a list of ISOs or anything. Yeah. We just played them. You

2:53:45 mean the one I like the best out of those? Which we I think in the show. I thought there was more to come. I think the Yeah. The gummy the gummy just said. Larry's gummy just kicked in everybody.

2:53:54 It's like the baby. Fat's blue ribbon, of course. Okay. Yeah. I I agree. It's a good one. In honor of JCD, of course, with real

2:54:02 it was probably with real JCD can opening.

2:54:05 Probably.

2:54:07 It's not that liquid death stuff you drink. No. No. So we've got that. I guess, let's see if the audio still works now.

2:54:15 Duh. It's working now. Who knows what anger leak lurks in the heart of an Apple machine.

2:54:22 Yes. That is going to do it for another edition of the best damn podcast in the universe.

2:54:29 Coming up next on the No Agenda stream, we've got Nick the rat.

2:54:34 Did anybody ever hire that guy? He needs a job.

2:54:38 No end of show mixes, so like the

2:54:42 start of the show, we can use some end of show mixes as well. And

2:54:48 come up back on Sunday. Maybe we'll have the one and only clip machine on the show with us,

2:54:54 and we'll see how he sounds.

2:54:57 But Yeah. Tune in for Steve, the the clip collector.

2:55:01 He knows how to bring the clips.

2:55:04 He does.

2:55:05 Coming to you from outside of Shirec right here in FEMA region number five In the morning, everybody, I'm Darren O'Neill.

2:55:13 And from the pretentious Connecticut Shore, I'm Larry Blybler.

2:55:17 And coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in Fredericksburg,

2:55:21 Texas.

2:55:22 In the morning, everybody, remember us at noagendadonations.com.

2:55:26 I'm Adam Curry.

2:55:28 Until next time, adios mofos, hooey hooey and such.

2:55:41 Best podcast

2:55:42 in the universe.

2:55:44 Adios,

2:55:45 mofo.

2:55:46 Dvorak.org/na.

2:55:52 I've got past Blue Ribbon on my mind.