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0:00 NBC,

0:00 the tents are burning. Tents are being burnt. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, 10/25/2015.

0:07 Time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode seven six eight. This is No Agenda.

0:15 Wielding the mighty power of the rain stick of revelization and broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State here in FEMA region six, Austin, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're maybe some rain on Wednesday.

0:30 We we got nothing going on. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's a wrecked ball in Buzzkill. In the morning.

0:35 I can't think of a better opening for our eighth anniversary show.

0:39 Great, John. Actually, officially,

0:41 it's on Thursday.

0:42 It's on Thursday? Yeah. The anniversary is tomorrow.

0:46 Oh, so we're not celebrating tonight?

0:49 Well, yeah. Okay. We can celebrate. Play the play the little thing.

0:53 Celebrate

0:55 eight years. Come on. Woo hoo.

0:59 Come on, John. Celebrate with me now. Celebrate

1:03 eight years. Come on.

1:06 I worked on that all weekend.

1:08 Yeah. Fantastic.

1:10 So, okay. So officially we'll celebrate on Thursday.

1:14 Good.

1:15 Good. Yeah, Thursday. Good. That's what we do all the second tell the executive

1:19 and social executive producers who contributed to 10/26.

1:24 I gotcha. Gotcha. Hey, so there's some good news.

1:29 I found that this is I think the theme of today's show is going to be just big duds.

1:35 Big duds? Well, the good the good news is

1:38 it rained.

1:40 Yeah. And I'm on the mend.

1:43 Oh, yeah. Well, this happened to in the last show. You were on the mend. No. Last show, we were waiting for the rain. No. Last show was horrible.

1:50 No. Last show, you said it was raining. It just started. You're right. But now, I actually I slept through the whole night. I didn't wake up at four in the morning It's still sound crap. Thank you, John. And I love you too. You know, it well, it sounds like this time it sounds you sound congested.

2:06 I am completely,

2:07 completely congested.

2:08 But I I don't have you know, all the symptoms are kinda gone. And,

2:12 I think we need to investigate this,

2:15 this sudden change in the in the weather. It was the rain stick. Thank you.

2:21 I mean, does it get any more coincidental

2:23 that we shake the rain? I mean, we were shaking the rain stick big time.

2:27 And these things always have a delay when we do it on the show. This doesn't work when I'm just standing here shaking it by myself or you are. It only works when we It's do it like the

2:36 it's like the the

2:38 a lot of these well, anyway. Well, I'm not going to discount the power of

2:42 The rain stick. The well, the rain stick.

2:45 And the people hear this thing, you know, and I don't know a blue They all vibe into it's

2:50 gonna rain. Well, it's flooded too many places. We get a lot of complaints by the way. Pretty much broke Formula One here in Austin.

2:57 I

2:58 have people from who are at Formula One who are with teams

3:02 saying, please do not shake the rain stake anymore on Twitter.

3:06 Yes. I've I've noticed this. Yeah. You

3:09 wrecked the formula. US

3:11 Single handedly.

3:13 Single handedly ruined.

3:15 Yeah. Well, they they'll they'll race. It'll just be going slow going. That's all.

3:20 But this They don't race when it's raining. Oh, yeah, they do. Oh, yes, they do.

3:26 What are talking about? They put on,

3:28 rain tires and they go slow. They won't go around this. Definitely don't do NASCAR when it's raining. Right. But Formula One, you know, they they do more than just turn, you know, left.

3:39 That's bull crap. There's plenty of road races in NASCAR. Okay.

3:44 I I

3:45 don't give a crap one way or the other. I don't care about Formula One. The the city's filled with douchebags. I'm glad it's raining so I don't have to look at them. They're all in buses with darkened windows.

3:57 And they can't and they can't take the helicopter from the roof of the, of the parking garage to the circuit. They now they're forced to actually go by road. Oh.

4:06 Oh. And can they take the chopper? It can fly in the rain. Yeah.

4:09 Okay.

4:10 This is why you're not a helicopter pilot.

4:13 So helicopters

4:14 can't fly in the rain? They can fly in the rain, but landing in a in an urban environment with with the clouds at 500 feet? No, that's not going to happen.

4:25 It doesn't happen. It doesn't happen.

4:29 Well, they had the the fiasco called the Benghazi hearings. Well, no. Wait. Let let's stick with the rain for a minute. Let's just stick for the water. Done with the rain. No. We're not. For like, need a road I need to give you a report. Then let for then we have to transition to the hurricane. That's right. You might call it a perfect storm. A cold front that stalled over North And Central Texas has been reinforced with remnants of hurricane Patricia.

4:53 I would like to point out that we shake the rain stick, and a hurricane named after my first ex wife shows up.

5:00 Last thing was that hurricane was a joke. I don't you know, there's there's only a couple possibilities.

5:06 One, it was a joke, whatever that means. Two,

5:10 it was an outrageously

5:11 strong storm, strongest one we've ever seen in our entire universe. It's veers off to the right magically and then goes away. No one's hurt. No property damage. Everything's gone. It could be it's Occam's razor. It could be completely true.

5:26 Of course Yeah. I immediately go to,

5:29 well, how about Harp?

5:32 They kicked maybe they could The Harp's been shut down, so it can't be Not all of Harp. Not all of Harp. Certainly not all of Harp. I will point out that if you triangulate my position to your position on the map and where the hurricane was, it's a perfect triangle. No. It's a perfect it's a perfect rain stick triangle.

5:48 Uh-huh.

5:49 And then, maybe

5:51 maybe

5:53 the

5:54 data that we saw from

5:57 radar images, are all satellite,

6:00 maybe that was

6:02 a little off.

6:03 I say.

6:05 Maybe it was like, maybe you know, no one actually sees the hurricane.

6:10 You see There's not a guy standing in the middle of the hurricane holding up a spinning thing,

6:14 getting the wind speed. And there's not a guy sitting up there on the satellite taking pictures. No. It's satellite imagery.

6:21 It's not an actual picture. This is the same kind of great

6:24 data we're getting about global warming. And, of course, they use the word warming as much as they could. You know, this was very this was extremely irritating within

6:34 you know, even before this people were on the ground reporting about this hurricane,

6:38 we had Eric Holdhaus,

6:42 writing,

6:44 in, what is this? What does he write in? He writes in Slate.

6:48 Eric Holdhaus. Does that name ring ring a bell? I'll tell you who he is in a minute. No. Headline, it's undeniable.

6:55 Climate change made hurricane Patricia worse.

6:59 Yeah.

7:00 Yeah. This is the this is the great white hope.

7:03 We haven't had it since Katrina.

7:05 There has not been one of these since they predicted, oh, this is the beginning of the end. Every year, there's gonna be these massive hurricanes.

7:12 So this thing comes along. Somebody gets the numbers wrong. That's the 200 miles an hour, the way I see it. Yeah. And I've worked in the laboratories. I know what happens. Once in a while, somebody puts the wrong one too many digits. Now listen to this. So this was the guy, and he wrote this long article in Slate.

7:29 You know, it's obvious that this is we've been waiting for this to happen. Of course, we knew. We've been predicting this, and all of this is, you know, within the five hundred days after

7:37 climate Armageddon was promised to us. This came out so quickly.

7:42 This is the guy who who,

7:43 when the IPCC

7:45 report came out in 2012,

7:47 he tweeted that he was at SFO crying and he vowed never to fly again on an airplane.

7:52 Remember that guy? No, I don't. Oh, come on. We talked about it on the show. Yeah. I'm sure we did. This was a big deal. Yeah. The guy's like, oh, I'm so sad about humanity. I'll never he actually and then later he said, well, at least not for a year I won't fly on an airplane. So instead of ever again, it became a year. And this is the guy who wrote this article. But even worse, they send Martin Savage,

8:14 who is, you know, he's one of the older reporters at CNN.

8:17 And,

8:18 whenever there's bull crap that no one wants to go to, they send him.

8:22 And so he's so imagine

8:24 the screen. Martin Savage on the screen doing this report.

8:27 In the corner, there's a box

8:29 that shows the, you know, so called Doppler radar, and this thing is, you know, all over where he's standing, Puerto Vallarta.

8:37 It made this red all over, and this is his report. This is that calm that is before the storm. The air is incredibly still. Light rain's falling, and it is intensifying.

8:46 Not a breath of wind. Uh-huh. And if you look out on the ocean, it's So he's I guess he's in the eye of the storm now. There was nothing

8:53 nothing happened. The eye just showed up. It's in the bay there. It is almost flat as glass.

8:59 The town itself, though, this is usually bustling with tourists, deserved surge. Yeah. No. There's no surge. Feel as you drive in. Police are monitoring and driving through the streets. You see them just moments before air. You could hear an emergency announcement being broadcast on a speaker system here. The tourist hotels have been evacuated.

9:17 They're gone, either sent to Guadalajara,

9:20 pushing out in major buses,

9:22 or being moved to schools that are up in the hills. The same is true of the people who live here. Now meanwhile, in the corner, John, there's a little Doppler radar box, and it's red where he is standing.

9:32 There's there's, you know, wash of the hurricane all the way to the other side of Mexico. The stores are all closed. Restaurants, casinos,

9:40 anything in this town is closed. They're holding their breath and waiting Oh, hold on our breath. Comes next, Jim. What comes heard from some people on the ground that the warnings from the government

9:49 to to to locals there as well as tourists that they came late, not necessarily giving people either the time or the resources to get out. Have you seen that there? Have you heard that?

9:58 Well, you know, you have to respect

10:01 the fact that this is a storm that grew with such incredible intensity. Probably one of the fastest intensifying storms that we have ever seen. Ever. And this is exactly

10:11 emergency planner's worst nightmare. Worse nightmare. You have a major city like I mean, nothing. There's no trees. There's no video of cars overturned.

10:20 This is bull

10:22 crap. Play this clip. News hour bad disaster shaping up. Okay.

10:28 This is on PBS.

10:29 And to the west, flooding at a mobile home park picked up trailers and carried them away.

10:36 Today, the mayor of Houston appealed to people to keep an eye on what's coming. We really encourage folks to,

10:43 once the rain starts,

10:45 just stay home and stay off the roads. Patricia is already being compared with typhoon Haiyan that left more than seven thousand three hundred dead or missing in The Philippines two years ago.

10:58 And today, as waves pounded the Mexican coast,

11:02 one expert warned it is looking like a very bad disaster is shaping up. We're all gonna die. Yeah. The bad disaster's shaping up. Now my favorite one is this one. This is the best hurricane clip.

11:15 Okay.

11:16 Hold on.

11:19 And by last night, it topped the scale with winds of 200 miles an hour, prompting dire descriptions from Mexico's weather service.

11:30 The

11:31 National Hurricane Center in Miami has determined that this storm is the strongest storm ever seen on the American continent.

11:37 Additionally, some international experts have already noted that this hurricane is the most powerful hurricane that has ever existed

11:44 on the planet in all of history.

11:50 You know, I'm reading everywhere that the NOAA had some gag order. I have no evidence of this.

11:57 But I do know where the where the climate or weather information comes from. Well, just like climate information.

12:03 And I know where satellite images are not actual images.

12:06 You know, they are composite from satellite.

12:11 They use different,

12:13 different kinds of, technologies, but it's not a picture. It's not an actual picture.

12:19 So

12:20 I don't know.

12:21 You know? Well, I do have You can't you can't say these things because then, oh, I have so many people who know about a great conspiracy. Yeah. Like, so many people know about climate change being bunk.

12:31 They 30,000.

12:33 Yeah. 30,000 people.

12:35 Yeah. Famous scientists

12:36 that have signed the documents saying this is bull crap, and, no, you just ignore it. That's not the way you do it. That's how it works. Yeah. So luckily, they got the the news media, all the channels were all in on this, and they got lucky that it happened on Friday because they didn't have to do these these Saturday reports. And so I have two Saturday reports. NBC does have a Saturday report that's they're kind of like wimping out, but the my favorite one is the one I'm looking for here, which is the one that was Hurricane on Saturday?

13:02 Yeah. Hurricane on Saturday. This is KTVU mornings on ten. We This is our local station, by the way. Yeah. Well,

13:09 good morning to you. Welcome to mornings on two. It is Saturday, October 24. I'm Claudine Wong. And good morning, everyone. I'm Ross Palumbo. Topping the news the news this morning, more on hurricane former hurricane Patricia.

13:20 Just a few moments ago, the National Hurricane Center downgraded her from a hurricane to a tropical storm and now down to a tropical depression. That's right. 35 mile per hour winds. Wanna give you a ride. Drive through that to a lower camp. It actually

13:34 looks remarkably

13:35 nice out there. This is the Grand Fiesta Americana Resort in Puerto Vallarta. It's just after ten in the morning there. Yeah. And things are returning to normal. Here, you can tell that

13:45 the hurricane the tropical depression is what? About four hours away from here at this point. And in this picture right here, doesn't come in. Even the the incoming 35 mile out winds. Really that,

13:55 bad, but airports in Guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta have They're showing a webcam of this resort. The the beach chairs are out. Nobody's even taking this stuff in because they've been evacuated.

14:07 Nothing's moved.

14:08 I know. It's beautiful out.

14:11 So This is the biggest scam I have ever seen. But the only thing I can think of, John, is is the is manipulating

14:19 the the satellite data.

14:21 There's only a couple,

14:23 government outfits that deliver the actual raw data.

14:29 I can't think of anything else either or either that maybe I I know it sounds crazy. It's a glitch.

14:35 Could be. But, you know, just as incredible

14:39 as this storm that we've never seen before in all of world history,

14:44 it went away faster than anything we've seen in all I mean, this this should be studied

14:50 for years how this happened.

14:54 Boy, just hit I'm going with the thesis that it's bad data.

14:57 No. I'm going with the thesis as the rain stick, if you don't mind.

15:01 But it's just as incredibly

15:03 incredible as as what they're saying. So the storm starts off as a tropical storm. No big deal. It's floating around. It starts coming in all of a sudden within 20 four, depending on who you listen to, have different clips. One says within thirty six hours, one says within twenty hours, twenty four hours. It it jerks up to 200 miles an hour for some unknown reason. They blame it on El Nino and Warren. No. No. That can't be because it it needs to be the jet stream. The jet stream is what fuels

15:33 that I'm telling you what they said. Okay. I said there's I've got I've got a bunch of these we can play, and none of them say jet stream anything. No. But that's that's how it works. Well, that's maybe how it works, but that's not what they're talking about. They're talking about warming.

15:46 Mhmm. And so the thing cranks up, but now they say it's gonna be the worst thing in history to a them. Warming Give clip. I wanna hear them say warming.

15:53 They use the word warming all the time. Let's see. Hurricane overview Saturday, or you already had that? Yes. No. That's Saturday. That's that's when they finally figured out this was a dud. Uh-huh. Hurricane overview Saturday,

16:05 news hour bad disaster, news hour oh, here's a good one. This is the news hour doofus, a guy from the Weather Underground who's a big warmest. And isn't Weather Underground,

16:14 owned now by Yes, it is. By who? Weather Channel. Yeah. And who owns the Weather Channel? I don't know. We do know this. It was bought by the Rothschilds.

16:24 Okay. The Rothschilds own it. Yeah.

16:27 So here's the doofus making some excuse. I think you'll hear it in here. You mentioned that calling this a category five, which is the top of the Saffer Simpson scale, is is almost an insufficient

16:38 description of this story. Can you explain?

16:42 Yes. The Saffer Simpson scale was developed several decades ago, and it breaks down hurricanes into five bins, category one all the way up to category five.

16:50 Now most of those bins are about 20 to 30 miles per hour wide, you might you might put it. Category five starts at a 156 miles an hour, but it has no ceiling. It's one fifty six and up. This storm had peak winds of 200,

17:04 so it was, you know, 45 miles an hour above the the category five threshold. You might say that if we had a cat six and cat seven that it would fall in the cats of seven range.

17:14 To that. So,

17:15 you know, we don't It's almost as bad as the the new earthquake numbers, which are no longer Richter scale. This is fantastic. Parse storms out when they get so strong in part because once you get to cat five, it pretty much destroys

17:28 everything except a really well constructed building. So there's not as much operational significance to it. So at that level of intensity, is that what we are expecting that it's gonna just cause some incredible damage on the coast of Mexico?

17:41 Well, fortunately, it has weakened a little bit as it's approached land. It's still a very, very powerful hurricane, still a category five

17:47 as in the most recent observations within the last couple hours.

17:51 Now the storm surge is going to be pretty significant over a relatively small area, and that's another blessing with this storm. It's not a gigantic hurricane, but there will be an area of a few miles where I would expect a very, very severe destruction.

18:04 And moreover, when it runs into the very steep mountains and hillsides just inland, it's gonna be dubbing gigantic amounts of rain. Again, over not a gigantic area, but there could be tremendous amounts of rain along the way. So mudslides and floods are also gonna be a real issue. None of it. And then my understanding is that the storm is likely to continue on breaking up somewhat, but then heading into the to Southern Texas.

18:27 What are you forecasting for Texas to be looking for? Die here. Some pretty stout winds. There will be some high water along the Texas coast, but mainly a lot of rain. I mean, it could be six to 12 inches of rain in places like Houston, and there's an ongoing heavy rain event over Texas already because of a separate storm. So there's gonna be some very, very large local rainfall amounts. And Texas is notorious for October systems that bring

18:48 tropical moisture and ex hurricanes from The Pacific. So this is really something to watch as well. I read from the Business Wire December

18:56 2012.

18:57 E. L. Rothschild LLC, a private investment company led by chairman sir Evelyn De Rothschild and CEO Lynn Forrester De Rothschild

19:04 today announced the signing of a definitive agreement to acquire a 70% interest in Weather Channel LP, the world's leading provider

19:12 of interactive weather graphics and data services for television, web, and mobile.

19:19 These guys provide here. Weather Central uses Hallmark scientific approach

19:24 to

19:25 secure customers that include network clients. This

19:30 hold on. It's

19:33 Hallmark scientific approach. It's like a hallmark card. It's fake.

19:37 To secure customers that include network owned and operated television stations, independent television stations, newspapers,

19:44 websites, and individual businesses and consumers.

19:47 I know I know I sound like a crazy kooky guy. How about this though? Okay. I well, you can sound like one, but how about if this was a test of the gullibility

19:57 of all the news service? Because everyone was in on this. It wasn't just, you know,

20:01 CNN.

20:02 Well, it's science, John. The data the data is is

20:06 the data.

20:08 That is data. Yeah. And I and I like your take on it, which is a little softer,

20:12 like, must have been a data flub.

20:14 But, you know, guaranteed in the next week or two before we hit this big Paris thing where they have sculptures of Noah's ark animals

20:23 out on the lawn,

20:24 some for some biblical reason we don't understand. Yeah. You'll see the president say all in on science and yet they've got Noah's Ark out there. The president will say,

20:35 just earlier this month, we saw the largest hurricane ever in recorded history. Well, you're right. Yeah. That's what's gonna happen. That's they said. That's what's gonna happen.

20:44 In recorded history, the largest, the worst. Yeah. Okay. Let's try this one. Hurricane scare on CBS

20:50 where they didn't couldn't even get anyone on the camera. They had to have them call in. And

20:55 CBS News reporter, Adrian Bard is in Mexico City tonight. Adrian?

21:01 Scott, Mexican officials are calling hurricane Patricia a perfect storm.

21:06 Forecasters expect 15 inches of rain in the next twenty four hours. Yeah. The perfect storm. One that looks really huge. We can talk about as the biggest ever, but doesn't do any damage. Perfect.

21:16 And waves powering up to 30 feet. There is also concern

21:21 about life threatening mudslides

21:23 and what it might do to the people who live in the rugged Sierra Madre villages.

21:28 The storm center will hit land near Puerto Vallarta

21:31 where thousands of tourists from hotels and cruises were evacuated in buses after the airport closed.

21:38 Authorities urged everyone in the three state coastal area to get off the beaches and streets.

21:45 Some were not listening.

21:46 Officials said they feared people might not believe all the doomsday warnings. There are shelters for 240,000

21:54 people ready with food, water, clothes, and blankets.

21:57 Patricia intensified

21:59 to a category five in twenty four hours,

22:02 experts blaming much warmer than usual sea temperatures.

22:06 Asked if enough has been done to prepare for this, one Mexican official said all protocols for prevention were followed, but admitted they don't know how well the roads, bridges, and power installations will hold up really because the force of this storm is simply unprecedented.

22:24 Adrian Bard reporting for us from Mexico City. Thanks, Adrian. Let me see.

22:53 That's

22:58 how we roll, everybody. In Mexico City.

23:03 Nowhere near anything. No. I said I corrected myself that I was in Puerto Vallarta after that. Yeah. No. But she's in Mexico City. Oh, really? You didn't hear that? No. What I'm it's how she's inside in Mexico City?

23:15 Play the beginning. That's when g announces Jeez. This is crazy.

23:20 Which one was it again? This was the

23:22 hurricane the The hurricane scare. CBS. Oh, man.

23:28 And CBS News reporter, Adrian Bard, is in Mexico City tonight. Adrian?

23:34 Got Mexican officials on phone.

23:36 That's fantastic.

23:38 This is, like, ridiculous.

23:40 Oh, man. As if Mexico City this is like, you know, we have some some fires in, the Sierra Nevadas, and and you're giving a report from New Orleans. Yeah.

23:52 I mean, give me a break. It's a scam of epic proportions. It's a scam of epic proportions. And and, of course, when whenever this happens, we need to check-in with the true scientific reports. Science. Science. What's happening in Greenland right now, the maps of the world will have to be redrawn.

24:10 This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay. Look out your window,

24:15 baby. John C. Dvorak with a mudflat report.

24:20 There are still mudflats

24:22 here at the, at the foot of the, bay. The mud flats are still there.

24:30 Look at your window,

24:32 baby.

24:34 Woo hoo. Alright. We love it. The one thing that bothers me the most is

24:39 there will not be any retrospectives

24:42 on this massive screw up No. We have no Scaring the crap out of the public. Have nothing. Saw some reports. There was a poor woman and a little girl. They were in

24:52 Puerto Vallarta vacationing,

24:54 and they were in a complete panic trying to get out on the last plane. And she's, I don't know what we're gonna do if we get stuck here. You know, we're gonna have to ride out the storm, and she was just completely freaked out. This whole thing, there's no

25:07 there will be no retrospective. There'll be no No. Introspection about why how we screwed up so massively. No. Every news outlet did this. The only thing and this because the weather data was wrong.

25:19 And the only thing that you will hear is, well, we know that the worst hurricane ever in in all of Earth's recorded history was in this year.

25:29 One of the hottest Oktober's

25:31 on record

25:32 or something like that. This date You will. That's actually my observation because you will hear that. Yeah.

25:38 And that's all. We just got lucky. Oh, hey. Here's another one. We dodged a bullet.

25:43 I love that. Not we, the Mexicans.

25:46 Well, the Mexican well, you know, it was gonna continue on into Texas. Into Texas. Yeah. I'm I'm happy. Yeah. By the way, everyone was like, hold five miles an hour. Do you when it actually was somebody could actually hold the thing up in the air and measure the wind speed, it was 35 miles an hour. I went outside yesterday to do some groceries quickly last night. Oh, by the way, I will say my apartment is leaking.

26:07 I

26:08 have a an overhanging,

26:10 like a I don't know. You know, like, the living room extends and hangs out a little bit in parallel to a balcony.

26:16 Yeah. And the corner is this, like, water and I'm not I'll also I'll post a picture, like, not a little bit too. No, put a bucket.

26:23 No. It's it's it's on the floor. It's not coming from the ceiling. Oh, you have oh, you need a towel. Yeah. Yeah. I put the towel down. But I'm worried about the the structural integrity that this thing could fall right off.

26:35 Half of my living I got the perfect clip for that. What's that? Another Clinton laugh ISO. Oh, jeez. I think I have the same ISO.

26:47 Yeah. I have it a little better, I think.

26:51 About the same. Before we move on to that, because I do wanna talk about that,

26:56 Andrea Mitchell took advantage of the opportunity to talk to John Kerry about, oh, I don't know, climate change. You have a leading Republican candidate

27:04 who tweeted out that on the first day of fall, the first cold weather that this was proof

27:09 that we need more global warming.

27:13 You have republican candidates. Republican

27:16 candidates are not only silent on the subject, are climate deniers. Deniers. But when I hear a United States senator say I'm not a scientist, so I can't make a judgment or candidate for president for that matter,

27:27 I'm absolutely astounded. It's incomprehensible

27:30 that a grown up who has been to high school and college in The United States Of America Well, I haven't had college, so I can say whatever I want.

27:38 Disqualifies themselves because they're not a scientist when they've learned that the earth rotates on its axis, but they're not a scientist. It seems to me that they disqualify themselves fundamentally from high public office with those kinds of statements. And I think the American people will decide that this year because the American people are overwhelmingly in favor of doing something about climate change. Did you say Heil Hitler? That's what I said. The

28:04 science is in.

28:07 Science.

28:08 My goodness. We are in such trouble.

28:11 It's horrible. Yeah. We're doomed.

28:14 We really are. And and that goes equally

28:17 for this

28:18 complete nonsensical

28:20 eleven hour shit show,

28:22 which, you know, let's just be honest about something.

28:25 The CIA operation that was going on in Benghazi, the 54 people who were part of the annex, a lovely word by the way, annex, like a little like a little porch I built onto my house, know, you just an annex.

28:38 You know, you're not hearing any of these people.

28:42 This was complete show. It was, of course, to discredit Hillary Clinton, and I she did a good job.

28:49 She did a great job. Fighting that that it was it would made everybody look stupid. Trey Gowdy is a douchebag.

28:55 You know, Trey Gowdy is I've you know, for one then he gets his hair made up with some stupid looking

29:00 dye job in the front. He's got white sidewalls and a little bitty a a little bitty thing sticking up. He looks like an idiot. Yeah. And I always admired the guy because he's a good second banana in these hearings. If he's not the chairman

29:14 Yeah. And he's a gal who comes in late and says, well, the way I see it as a as a lawyer as a lawyer. As a lawyer. As a prosecutor.

29:22 As an ex prosecutor.

29:23 Blah blah blah. And so, apparently, somebody made it the analysis that

29:29 he'd this was a select committee, and the select committee means the chairman gets to select people Yeah. To be on the committee. He selected all his attorney buddies. Yeah. Well, of course. And so they're asking these idiotic

29:41 questions about, you know, as though they're trying that she's on trial and they're trying to get the goods on her. Let me do this something in reverse order. After the fact, we had Susan Brooks who was the,

29:51 where is she from? Is she

29:53 oh, no.

29:55 I'm not sure where she's from. She's Republican.

29:57 And she was doing an interview on CNN,

30:00 and, you know, she basically said she's saying in so many words that, you know, this was a total waste of everybody's time. Trey Gowdy says it's not over. So what's next? Not over. She was but one serious fact witness. We have other witnesses to interview.

30:17 Witnesses like director Petraeus, head of CIA. Witnesses like secretary Panetta, was head of department of defense. We are not done. In fact, there are over a dozen interviews already scheduled in November. Now these will be probably in classified settings, so they will not be in the public nature that that her interview was. Nonetheless, she requested that that be public. Alright. So I didn't know that she had requested it be public.

30:41 That doesn't mean they had to do it. Thank you. Thank you.

30:45 That that's the crazy the the girl with the the lady with the curly hair that's half over her face. Oh, fuck. It makes me mad. Just looking at her makes me mad.

30:55 These people what a and, you know, and and meanwhile,

30:58 while this all took well, I'll tell you that in a minute. What was going on while we were all distracted by this? I have a couple clips. Do you have anything to share? I've got a couple of clips. I got I've got one of her rambling clips. I've also have the one

31:11 which incorporates

31:12 that laugh, which I think is a good clip.

31:15 Yeah. Okay.

31:16 Okay. Let's play that one. Then I have a couple others to play. Alright. That clip is the

31:20 Clinton maniacal laugh clip. Yeah. And I and I also had the the laugh eyes. And nine hours and fifteen minutes into the hearing, missus Clinton was asked her two hundred and eighteenth question. It was about where she was the night of the attacks. Who else was at your home? Were you alone?

31:36 I was alone, yes. The whole night?

31:40 Well, yes, the whole night.

31:43 I don't know why that's funny. I mean, did you have any in person briefings? I don't find it funny at all.

31:50 I'm sorry. A little note of levity at 07:15.

31:53 What is levity?

31:55 Humor.

31:56 Oh. Was it because everyone knows that she's in bed with Ooma? Is that why it's funny?

32:02 I didn't I actually That's all I could think of. I didn't think of that. Everybody knows. I don't have a dirty enough mind. I'm sorry. That's where I am. That's where I am. There were a couple of things that came out that were that were worthwhile.

32:16 This is,

32:19 I thought this was an interesting comment. I did not conduct most of the business that I did on behalf of, our country on email.

32:26 I conducted it in meetings. I read massive

32:30 amounts of memos, great deal of classified information.

32:35 I made a lot of secure phone calls. I was in and out of the White House all the time. There were a lot of things that happened that

32:43 I was aware of and that I was reacting to. If you were to be in my office in the state department, I didn't have a computer. I did not do the vast majority of my work on email. Alright.

32:55 The secretary of state says she did not have a computer in her office. Yes.

33:00 This question came up in the daily briefing

33:05 at the state department.

33:06 And I don't know where Kirby is. He you know, I like him because he's funny. He makes funny remarks.

33:12 This other guy, I forget his name,

33:14 douchebag two. Well, he got the question. Secretary Clinton speaks of not having a computer at the State Department.

33:20 Is that an unusual

33:22 thing for the secretary to not have a state to not have a computer within their office at the State Department?

33:28 It's, I mean, unusual. I mean, look, mean, we've only had,

33:32 you know, email's a relatively new beast,

33:35 shall we say, and Really?

33:38 Relatively This new

33:40 new fangled email thing we're talking of? A new creation.

33:44 A new creation, I say. Thank you. Mark Zuckerberg must have created this new crazy email thing. And so, you know, I think each secretary is a little bit different in how they get information, and certainly that evolves

33:55 as technology

33:56 has developed over time. So I'm not it's hard for me to say whether it's unusual.

34:01 You know, there's,

34:03 you know, there's I I would have to refer you to previous secretaries.

34:08 Bullcrap.

34:11 Hey, did you get a spreadsheet?

34:14 Yeah. I didn't get one. Well. Could you forward it to me?

34:19 Okay. Yeah. Can you do that from that machine? Yeah. Yeah? Okay.

34:23 So apparently,

34:25 you know, she had her BlackBerry everywhere,

34:27 but she did not have She can type into the BlackBerry. It it it the BlackBerry technically is an email machine. Yeah. Well, anyway, I if there's some reason she said it. Now there was one actual thing that came out of this,

34:41 which, you know, was underplayed.

34:43 In fact, I don't think I heard it anywhere except briefly

34:46 on,

34:48 PBS NewsHour. I did not see anyone at all report about the email that she sent to Chelsea

34:54 and I think Bill. Oh, yeah. With that with the code name. No. No. No. No. No. Yeah. It wasn't just Chelsea. It was to her code name.

35:01 Oh, yeah. Okay. But it's it's now agreed she sent an email to her family.

35:06 Right. And what did she say in the email? She said, oh my god. The terrorists have attacked Benghazi. I know what we're gonna do. Yeah. So here's what troubles me.

35:14 Your experts knew the truth. Your spokesperson knew the truth. Greg Hicks knew the truth.

35:19 But what troubles me more is I think you knew the truth.

35:22 I wanna show you a few things here. You're looking at an email you sent to your family.

35:27 Here's what you said.

35:29 At 11:00 that night,

35:31 approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video, you say to your family, two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an Al Qaeda like group. Like.

35:40 You tell you tell the American people one thing,

35:44 you tell your family an entirely different story.

35:47 Also,

35:48 on the night of the attack,

35:50 you had a call with the president of Libya.

35:52 Here's what you said to him.

35:54 And czar al Sharia is claiming responsibility.

35:58 It's interesting. Mister,

35:59 one of the guys arrested and charged,

36:02 actually belonged to that group.

36:04 And finally,

36:06 and most significantly,

36:08 the next day, within twenty four hours, he had a conversation with the Egyptian prime minister. Conversation.

36:14 You told him this.

36:16 We know

36:17 the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film.

36:21 It was a planned attack,

36:23 not a protest. Let

36:25 me read that one more time.

36:26 We know,

36:28 not we think, Not it might be. We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest.

36:37 State department experts knew the truth.

36:39 You knew the truth,

36:41 but that's not what the American people got. Why didn't you tell the American people exactly what you told the Egyptian prime minister? No. She didn't have a very satisfactory answer. And, again, this really doesn't matter in the broad scheme of what actually went down in Benghazi, but I'd like to play the two follow-up clips to this. Here's what I think is going on. Let me show you one more slide. Again, this is from Victoria Nolan, your press person. She

37:02 says to Jake Sullivan,

37:03 Philip Reines, subject line reads this,

37:06 Romney's statement on Libya.

37:09 Email says, this is what Ben was talking about. I assume Ben is the now somewhat famous Ben Rhodes author of the talking points memo.

37:17 This email is at 10:35,

37:19 twenty seven minutes after your 10:08 statement. Twenty seven minutes after you've told

37:24 everyone

37:25 it's a video.

37:27 While Americans are still fighting because the attack's still going on,

37:30 your top people

37:31 are talking politics. Right. Which I think is disgusting

37:35 without doubt.

37:36 But then I've I called this little bit and see if you can catch

37:40 her telling, know, the truth always wants to get out and Hillary Clinton, boy, did she tell the truth in this one.

37:47 Now apparently,

37:48 Nusra were the ones who claimed responsibility

37:51 and she's going to discuss that specifically. Do you know how, al Nasrah claimed that responsibility?

37:56 I don't recall. Okay. It's in this clip. And then listen to how she explains it. Why didn't you just speak plain

38:01 to the American people? I did. If you look at my statement as opposed to what I was saying to the Egyptian prime minister, I did state clearly and I said it again in more detail the next morning as did the president.

38:14 I'm sorry that it doesn't fit your narrative congressman.

38:17 I can only tell you what the facts were and the facts as the democratic,

38:22 members have pointed out in their most recent,

38:25 collection of them,

38:27 support this process that was going on where the intelligence community was pulling together information. And it's very much harder to do it these days than it used to be because you have to monitor social media for goodness sakes. That's where the Ansar al Sharia,

38:42 claim was, placed.

38:43 I think the intelligence community did the best job they could and we all did our best job to try to figure out what was going on and then to convey,

38:52 that to the American people.

38:54 Did you, did you hear the little anomaly there? Know what? Okay. I'm gonna roll it back so you can hear it. So we now know that through Twitter,

39:04 we found out that,

39:05 Ansar Al Sharia, I'm sorry. Not Ansar Al had,

39:10 claimed responsibility

39:11 for the attack, but that's not exactly what Hillary says. You have to monitor social media for goodness sakes. That's where the Ansar al Sharia,

39:19 claim was placed.

39:21 Ah.

39:22 I got it. Placed.

39:24 Placed. Placed.

39:25 So I don't know what was going on. Yeah. But they placed it. It play it was placed. It's not like they tweeted it. Now she could have said that in so many different ways. Instead, no, that's where it was placed. Yeah. By your own people, I presume.

39:38 Yeah. That's why would you use the word placed unless you had something to do with them. Exactly. Meanwhile,

39:42 we had the mother of Sean Smith back on Fox News once again.

39:46 Now she's she's fantastic. We've had her on, we've played several clips from her back in the 2012 when this happened, and she was on with Megan Kelly. Patricia Smith is Sean Smith's mother.

39:57 Patricia, thank you for being back with us tonight. Your reaction to what I heard today and to that email in particular. Well, that's kind of interesting because my son called me the night before telling me about the people that were walking around the compound taking pictures,

40:13 and they were taking pictures of the diesel fuel and everything, and that's what set on fire. They knew that this was going to happen. They were just planning their their their attack. Mhmm. He they they were people who were supposed to be guarding the embassy who were taking pictures, and he believed rightly Right. That they were in fact planning an attack and not not planning to protect anybody.

40:32 Did you These were the February 17 people, he told me. Whatever that is. I thought that was interesting.

40:38 The February 17 people.

40:41 That is interesting. And the only thing I can find is 02/17/2011

40:48 was the occurrence of the first battle of Benghazi.

40:51 I'm reading from Wikipedia actually, the book of knowledge.

40:55 The first battle of Benghazi occurred as part of the Libyan civil war between army units and militia men loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and anti Gaddafi forces in February 2011.

41:05 The battle mainly took place in Benghazi, the second largest city in Libya with related clashes occurring in the nearby Croatian,

41:12 Croatian, Cronation,

41:14 Krynakant,

41:15 whatever, Baida and Dirna. In Benghazi itself, most of the fighting occurred during a siege of the government controlled Katiba compound. So we need to look into this. I've I only heard this this morning. But the February 17 people is code for something, and I know we have enough producers out there who will help figure it out. Now, of course, we know what Hillary Clinton said when,

41:35 Patricia Smith's,

41:37 son's body was being wheeled off of, the airplane.

41:40 Well, and now we this is way after she lied, Hillary Clinton lied

41:45 about it being a terror attack. What does it mean to you? I mean, to I know that you have believed all along that what you were told over your son's casket

41:54 was not true, that it was not about a video. But to see the email

41:59 from Hillary Clinton to the Egyptian prime minister saying it outright saying, we know the attack had nothing to do with the film.

42:05 We know it. We know it was a planned attack and not a protest.

42:09 What does that mean to you? What does what perspective does that give you? It gives me a very good one. She lies. Very simple. She is not telling the truth. She's trying to push her own agenda through what she was hoping would happen is what she said, not what actually happened. And she told me it was a video that it was. She told me personally it was a video.

42:31 Obama told me. Pineda told me.

42:34 Biden told me. They all told me at the casket ceremony that it was a video, and they would definitely call me and let me know if there was any change as soon as they investigated a little bit more thoroughly.

42:46 I have heard nothing,

42:47 nothing from the government since

42:51 Which

42:52 is sad, of course. It is. It's actually pathetic. Now I did not see a report. Now you're doing the three by threes. Did you did did you see anything about the the emails and lying

43:04 on the on the three by threes on the networks?

43:07 Yeah. Actually, I did see a thing about the,

43:11 I don't know which network. I don't have a clip. I have well, I have a But there was one network at least that produced the information about the

43:19 the question that you had initially that where she is grilled about the two

43:23 about the

43:25 fake letter to her daughter.

43:28 Right.

43:29 The only

43:31 example I could find of a news report was on the news hour with some guy, some reporter,

43:37 and he sums it up quite succinctly, but then,

43:40 what's her name?

43:42 The old bird?

43:44 Judy Woodruff. Yeah. Judy Woodruff. Who should not be wearing, sleeveless

43:48 dresses anymore. If I was in charge of a news hour, I would do,

43:52 higher She's too old. Well, higher collars and you know, watched this thing in HD. Come on. Yeah. You know, higher collars, sleeves. That's all. I mean, I'm just I'm just Not a big deal. I'm protecting her. I'm I feel views this as a television professional. Although, I think that her lip smacking is more problematic

44:07 than that. I think the most interesting moment by far was when congressman Jim Jordan was saying to her in in some detail that you, secretary Clinton, told your family in one email that this was an attack linked to Al Qaeda, that you said in a phone call with an Egyptian leader that this was not something tied to an anti Muslim video, and then saying, but the talking points coming out of the White House at the time were this was not Al Qaeda, and this was linked to this video. I thought that was the most effective and sort of new moment in the in the entire line of questioning, and her answer back was not terribly strong. Her answer back was there is conflicting intelligence. We were trying to sort our way through it. But she couldn't quite give the direct answer of why she was saying in an email something very different than what was being said publicly. But for the audience, why does it matter?

44:49 Why did that why did that why does it matter whether she was saying one thing? Because she tried to say, well, I was trying to warn other countries. We didn't wanna see this thing happening any place else. So, I mean, the Republican charges basically are two parts. One is Why does it matter that she lied?

45:06 What?

45:08 Is this a serious news person asking this question?

45:13 That is odd. Yes. Why does it matter that she lied?

45:17 She ignored security, so substantively, she could have done more to make the compound safer and then much more damaging.

45:23 Yeah.

45:24 I think that now that I'm listening to this and then

45:27 contemplating

45:28 that question, that she wasn't listening.

45:31 I was well,

45:33 she said quite clearly, why does it matter that she Yeah. But she said, why does it like, you tell you tell me something. Tell well, Adam, why does it matter?

45:42 I don't have a this is That's not what she said. She said, why does it matter that she lied?

45:46 She didn't say that. Yes. She did. No. She didn't say that. A direct answer of why she was saying in an email something very different than what was being said publicly. But for the audience, why does it matter? Why did that why did that why does it matter whether she was saying one thing? Because she tried to say, well, I was trying to warn Wasn't that the same, John? Why does it matter? Don't think so. Okay. Other countries, we didn't wanna

46:07 I don't think she's paying attention.

46:09 No. It's possible.

46:11 She probably looking at herself out of the corner of her eye in the monitor thinking, jeez, I look like crap. I should wear I shouldn't wear sleeveless anymore.

46:19 I love how the chat room some guy says, with every show, these guys sound more and more like right wing Republican talk radio. Are you kidding me?

46:27 Right. Didn't didn't we just say of this. Trey Gowdy is a douche? Didn't we just say this was Yeah. Trey Gowdy is a douche? What right wing Republican talk radio would say that? My we sound more like a serious one twenty seven progress.

46:41 Please.

46:42 What an idiot that guy is, whoever he is in the chat. Hold on. It's a

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46:51 Yeah. It should be your I just kinda hate that. I'm not looking at the chat room now.

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46:56 tell you I have a number of clips, but I wanna take a break

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59:38 My, my, my.

59:39 So I'm watching Democracy Now,

59:42 and,

59:43 she doesn't seem to be

59:45 as

59:46 lockstep into the into the memes of the the Benghazi hearings. You mean,

59:52 Amy Goodman, War and Peace, War and Peace support, Amy Goodman, dot com, org? Dot com.

59:59 She

1:00:00 it's she's skeptical enough that it she brought somebody on who's an this guy's interesting. His name is Mel

1:00:06 Mel Goodman. I have three clips from him. Mhmm. And he's interesting because he's he's ex CIA,

1:00:13 and he's ex that little state department in town. Of course, we don't really know if anyone's ex CIA anymore considering, you know, Fox had a guy on who was fake. Right. I'm sure this this is possible. But this guy has written a couple of books, and he's, Uh-huh. And he he has good points to make whether he's XCI or he's volition. But he was working for, you said, for the state department, the Victoria Newland led state department intelligence agency? This was back in the eighties. He wasn't it's not recent. But he was part of that little that secretive little

1:00:41 intelligence

1:00:42 group that the State Department has. Yeah.

1:00:45 That's the one that was screwing us up.

1:00:49 So let's play a little of this. This is his opening remarks he's introduced,

1:00:53 with

1:00:55 introduction from Amy. I cut most of that off.

1:00:58 This is kind of interesting. Can you start off by talking about

1:01:02 the significance of the hearing yesterday,

1:01:05 what was learned,

1:01:07 what wasn't learned and what you think are the key questions to be asked that may have never been asked formally by any of these committees?

1:01:16 Thank you, Amy. What was learned was irrelevant.

1:01:20 What was relevant wasn't discussed.

1:01:22 And it was those areas that concerned me. Why was the CIA

1:01:27 operating a base out of Benghazi? Why was the State Department operating a transitional

1:01:32 mission facility, a TMFit wasn't a consulatein Benghazi?

1:01:36 Why was Ambassador Stevens,

1:01:38 who was aware of the security situation

1:01:40 in Benghazi

1:01:41 in the first place?

1:01:43 So, none of these questions have been asked. And remember, when the planes flew the survivors out of Benghazi to get them back to Tripoli,

1:01:50 for every State Department official on that plane, there were five or six CIA employees.

1:01:56 And my sources tell me that the CIA was there to buy back weapons that we had given to Qaddafi in the first place. So the question all of this begsand

1:02:05 this is where Hillary Clinton's remarks did concern meis

1:02:08 that we created a disaster in Libya. It was the decision to conduct regime change, the decision to go after Qaddafi, which eventually led to his death. And remember, Hillary Clinton welcomed that news with the words, We came. We saw. He died.

1:02:23 Now,

1:02:24 there is a link to what Putin is doing in Syria, because, remember, we had to tell the Russians

1:02:30 that we had very limited objectives, a very limited mission

1:02:34 in Benghazi so that they would not veto the UN resolution.

1:02:38 And then, essentially, Putin finds out

1:02:41 that our mission really was to go after Qaddafi,

1:02:44 creating this instability,

1:02:46 this discontinuity,

1:02:47 this chaos

1:02:48 in Libya.

1:02:49 So, what really needs to be discussed is what is the role of military power in the making of foreign policy?

1:02:56 Why does Hillary Clinton think that Libya is not a disaster?

1:02:59 And why was Hillary Clinton pushing

1:03:01 for

1:03:02 the military role in Libya in the first place? These are important issues.

1:03:07 As far as the hearings were concerned, she testified off and on for nearly eleven hours. She handled herself extremely well, and she essentially exposed the fact that these were a group of Republican triglodytes

1:03:20 doing their best to marginalize her and humiliate her. And they totally failed. Yep.

1:03:27 Yep. Now, I wanna mention one thing that somebody pointed out on on a it's actually a comedy show, and they talked it over with Mimi.

1:03:35 And this goes back to Hillary not sweating and possibly being a lizard.

1:03:41 And I'm the Crackpot.

1:03:43 She is a

1:03:45 menopausal

1:03:47 older woman who can sit eleven hours without having to take a pee. No. No,

1:03:54 she did take a pee. One. Oh, she did? She got took a pee? There was one there was there was a break. They had a break. Okay. Well, then then I can take it back. But I'll I'll tell you something else.

1:04:03 She was reading half of her answers.

1:04:06 It's and now I figured out why she talks like this when she's

1:04:10 talking to answering questions.

1:04:12 When you look at the close-up talking slow enough. Yeah. You are right

1:04:16 that I have been answering

1:04:18 questions in this regard.

1:04:20 She's reading. In fact, at one point, like, what tab are we on? What tab are we on? She could be like, what tab is that? What tab? Because she has a written answer for every question. She knows the questions,

1:04:31 and she's reading. You see how what she does is she'll she'll pretend that she's kind of looking away thinking, but she's reading.

1:04:38 She's reading, and she's on some kind of heavy ass meds. Oh, she's on something. Yeah. Oh, there's no I I I

1:04:45 should have brought that up too. But you're right. She's definitely on something to keep her from

1:04:50 getting nuts like she would do. Now she has hypothyroidism,

1:04:54 which is a part of her no sweating.

1:04:57 And

1:04:58 the great thing about that is you can regulate

1:05:01 almost everything with the thyroid.

1:05:03 So if you can slow, you can slow someone down, you can speed someone up, you can get them up to normal. I know I've lived with hypothyroidism.

1:05:11 Well, here is a clip from Hillary. This is exhibiting

1:05:15 what you described as reading.

1:05:17 This is Hillary, what must we do better clip.

1:05:21 You know, I

1:05:22 would imagine I thought more about what happened than all of you put together.

1:05:27 I've lost more sleep than all of you put together. She sounds like Kathy hates. Been racking my brain

1:05:33 about what more could have been done. I'm your biggest fan.

1:05:37 She she Or actually, she sounds like She does. She does. She plays an insane person. No. This is this is her insane. So, I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed ideas. We came.

1:05:47 We saw.

1:05:48 You died.

1:05:50 Did it have anything to do with your

1:05:53 Alright. Let's go back to the the the Melvin

1:05:55 Yeah.

1:05:56 Goodman. So this is the this is the middle remark. This is the, just a little interim complaint about the hearings.

1:06:04 Hold on. Mel Goodman interim complaint. Sorry. Gotcha. But the fact is we use military power in these places, and now they're less stable than they were before. And to talk about nation building is particularly silly.

1:06:17 We can't rebuild Baltimore. So what are we going to do in Aleppo and Mosul and Benghazi and Tripoli?

1:06:23 We have to be

1:06:25 more balanced and more restrained with our use of power. And Hillary Clinton should have been forced to discuss that yesterday. I don't But think that panel was interested in American national security.

1:06:35 These were a bunch of gotcha questions that got this country nowhere. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Trey Gowdy is a democrat.

1:06:43 I you know, this is funny you'd say that because I these things were over. From what I could tell, this would just benefited Hillary.

1:06:51 Everybody the litany was out there. The new meme showed up that these guys were a bunch of clowns. The Republicans were clowns.

1:06:58 Then this whole thing didn't work, and Hillary stood fast.

1:07:01 And I've talked to women who said, well, I don't even like Hillary, but she did such a great job. Maybe I'll vote for her now. Yep. I heard women say the same thing. They like they liked her. They liked how they and that was also part of the narrative,

1:07:13 you know, and because no one heard the actual outright lie. But, yeah, it's you know, these were this is not about what really happened.

1:07:21 That's why, you know, they were just trying to catch her on one little thing. They took eleven hours. They got one lie about an email, which Amy Goodman to her, you know, says,

1:07:31 what difference does it make? What difference does it make if she didn't she said to the something that That wasn't Amy. That was, Woodruff. Yes, Sam. This is interchangeable.

1:07:39 Well, let's go to the last comments, which I think are quite interesting, and these will fascinate you, I think. This is,

1:07:45 he's where he blasts Brennan and the whole structure of the CIA

1:07:50 currently.

1:07:51 Mel Goodman, you're a former CIA

1:07:53 and State Department analyst. Let's talk about the role of the CIA, for example, in Libya. The CIA and the State Department, are they

1:08:03 merging? And does that endanger diplomacy

1:08:06 when

1:08:07 people in other countries think it's the same thing?

1:08:11 Well, the problem, I think, is even greater than that. The merger that's taking place, particularly under this director,

1:08:18 John Brennan,

1:08:19 is the merger between the CIA and the Pentagon. Yeah. I left the CIA in the 1980s because of the politicization of intelligence under Bill Casey and Bob Gates. But what John Brennan has done is created the CIA

1:08:32 as a paramilitary

1:08:34 institution

1:08:35 that is really doing the bidding of the Pentagon. He said in his confirmation hearings he was going to give up drone warfare, that that properly belonged in the Pentagon, if we should be doing it at all, which is another

1:08:46 question. But not only has he not done that, we've expanded the use of the drones. Now he's merging intelligence analysts and operatives,

1:08:55 which will further politicize

1:08:56 intelligence. So what I worry about is the CIA that was created by Harry Truman to challenge the Pentagon,

1:09:03 to challenge intelligence briefings by the Pentagon,

1:09:06 to try

1:09:08 understanding of why we need arms control and disarmament. And there, the CIA and the State Department, and when we had an arms control and disarmament agency, which Bill Clinton got rid of, the CIA did some very good work. But if you look at the ten years, if you look at politicized intelligence, the phony case to go to war, people like Mike Morell, a deputy director who was called the Bob Gates of his generation by POLITICO. We certainly know what that means. The politicization of all the intelligence

1:09:34 to invade Iraq, secret prisons, extraordinary renditions, torture and abuse.

1:09:39 This is what needs to be addressed. But I think, frankly,

1:09:43 President Obama has been intimidated

1:09:46 by this process, intimidated by the very military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned about in 1961.

1:09:53 Bingo. Boom. Shakalaka. You're right. I do like that. And that kind of

1:09:58 makes a little bit of sense why Brennan's email got hacked. There's probably a lot of guys in CIA who are pissed off. Yeah. I think it's really And, you know, so, hell, well, let's just show how stupid you are. Maybe they were into you know, the intent there was to, to embarrass you. I think that's why they embarrassed me with the AOL thing because

1:10:14 That was the punchline. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The AOL. You're right.

1:10:18 You're right. Well, this is the doofus that's running everything and he's got an AOL account. You know, this is a guy you want running everything.

1:10:26 And while we were, you know, most people were paying attention to the news, certainly was paying attention to that. The cyber

1:10:32 information

1:10:33 sharing act

1:10:36 advanced in the Senate.

1:10:38 No one paid attention to that.

1:10:42 No. Of course not. This is too complicated. Yeah. Interesting that,

1:10:47 an additional $37,000,000

1:10:48 in emergency funding for the office of personnel and management,

1:10:52 has been taken out of the CISA bill.

1:10:55 Don't know why.

1:10:57 Say,

1:10:58 you know, and I was at 37,000,000 doesn't sound like a a government program to cyber harden anything.

1:11:04 170,000,000

1:11:05 would be more likely. I don't know why this

1:11:07 this little weeny amount.

1:11:10 But speaking of

1:11:13 the faulty intelligence that got us into the Iraq War, this morning, Tony Blair,

1:11:20 known as the poodle lapdog of George W. Bush back in the day,

1:11:24 confessed

1:11:26 to a number of things on Fareed Zakaria, the anti constitutionalist douchebag on CNN. Did you see this? No, I not. Did they go did some people come into the into the studio there to arrest him? They should have. Given,

1:11:39 however, that Saddam Hussein did not prove to have weapons of mass destruction,

1:11:44 was the decision to enter Iraq and and topple his regime a mistake?

1:11:50 You know, whenever I'm asked this, I can say Okay. Blah blah blah that I apologize for the fact that

1:11:57 the intelligence we've received was was wrong. Sorry. Because even though he had used chemical weapons extensively against his own people, against others Shari, not Shari.

1:12:06 The program in the form that we thought it was did not exist in the way that we thought. So I can apologize for that. I can also apologize, by the way,

1:12:18 for some of the

1:12:19 mistakes in planning and certainly our

1:12:22 mistaken in in our understanding of what would happen once you remove the regime.

1:12:28 But I find it hard to apologize for removing Saddam. I think even from today in 2015,

1:12:35 it is better that he's not there than that he is there. No. When people look at the rise of ISIS, many people point Stop here for one second. So he's saying, hey. Sorry.

1:12:44 Sorry. What do we know? But, you know, ultimately, it's better. You know? You know, you everybody wins in the end except for, you know, a million people killed. Of ISIS. Many people point to the invasion of Iraq as the principal cause. What do you say to them? I think there are elements of truth in that, but I think we, again, got to be extremely careful. Otherwise, we misunderstand what's going on in Iraq and in Syria today. Of course, you you can't say that those of us who removed Saddam in 2003

1:13:11 bear no responsibility for the situation in 2015.

1:13:15 But it's important also to realize,

1:13:18 one,

1:13:18 that the Arab Spring, which began in 2011,

1:13:21 would also have had its impact on Iraq today.

1:13:24 And two,

1:13:25 ISIS actually came to prominence

1:13:28 from a base in Syria and not in Iraq. Oh. And that leads me to the broader point, which I think is so essential when we're looking at policy today,

1:13:37 which is we have tried intervention

1:13:39 and putting down troops

1:13:42 in Iraq.

1:13:43 We've tried intervention

1:13:44 without putting in troops in Libya. Uh-huh. And we've tried no intervention at all but demanding regime change in Syria.

1:13:51 It's

1:13:52 not clear to me

1:13:54 that even if our policy did not work,

1:13:57 subsequent policies have worked better. What

1:14:02 a dick.

1:14:03 He he left one off the list. What's that? Bringing the Russian army into Syria. Yeah.

1:14:10 Exactly.

1:14:12 Well, with that in mind I think have an effect. Yeah. With that in mind, there are some things going on and

1:14:20 there's an interesting

1:14:21 always talk about the differences between ISIS, ISIS,

1:14:26 ISIL, and then there's a couple other descriptors.

1:14:29 Yeah. There are. Yeah. There's And more. And there's reasons for that. I think now it's it's starting to be proven. First here is foreign minister Lavrov

1:14:37 of Russia.

1:14:38 And,

1:14:39 there's a couple yeah. So he really wants to, you know, to move things along and at least that's what he's saying. And he wants to, you know, talk about a political solution to the quagmire. Russian

1:14:51 foreign minister Sergei Lavrov says the Kremlin wants to see Syria get ready for parliamentary and presidential elections.

1:14:59 The announcement comes nearly one month after Russia launched air strikes against Islamic state targets in Syria

1:15:06 in support of president Bashar al Assass government.

1:15:09 Lavrov also said Russia would be willing to help western backed free Syrian army rebels with Russian air support if it knew where they were. We are ready to give their support to patriotic opposition as well,

1:15:23 including the so called free Syrian army. But we need to get in contact with the people who have the authority to represent certain armed groups that are fighting against terror ism among other things. Moscow and Washington have butted heads over a political transition of power in Syria

1:15:38 with Washington saying a solution must see Assad removed from power.

1:15:45 But the latest move could be a sign that Russia is beginning to use its increased influence in Damascus

1:15:51 to reach a political settlement. It's always good to throw an ala Akbar in your report.

1:15:57 So here so they're now talking about the free Syrian army.

1:16:02 And I think the free Syrian army is comprised of, as John McCain would say, the state department

1:16:08 backed

1:16:09 rebels

1:16:10 I'm sorry. The CIA backed well, it's the same thing. The CIA backed rebels and the,

1:16:15 defense department, the Pentagon backed rebels.

1:16:19 That's what they call free Syrian army. But John Kerry really amidst all of this talk of ISIS and ISIS, ISIS and ISIL, free Syrian army, John Kerry,

1:16:29 moron, comes out with this. The United States,

1:16:33 I wanna emphasize,

1:16:34 welcomes

1:16:36 support

1:16:37 in the fight against Daesh. Now why is he saying Dash all of a sudden? Because he's specifying the group.

1:16:44 He's specifying that that is a small group of a holes that really can be rooted out.

1:16:51 And everything else, he doesn't want anyone to touch it.

1:16:56 Maybe. I think so. Well, it's not a bad thesis. Yeah. Yeah. And why is he using Dash? Nobody uses Dash.

1:17:03 Yeah. Unless he's specifically referring to

1:17:07 I mean, this is the these are these are these cover your ass statements. I I believe Dash It would go like this. Let me explain how this works to people. You

1:17:17 you are

1:17:18 something bad happens. Mhmm. And a bunch of guys get killed, and you and and they say, carry all these people. These these guys got killed.

1:17:27 These guys and these guys and these guys. So now all I wanted to get killed was Dash. I had nothing to do with these other guys.

1:17:34 Just Dash. Dash. I'm about Dash, and I can tell you who Dash is. This little group right here. I think I think Dash I think Dash is the Iranian fighters who are in there.

1:17:45 No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's okay.

1:17:49 No. Because there's no way. No. That's not possible. You know, I don't know anything. This call could be a movie set for all I care. Who the hell knows? I'm not seeing anything.

1:17:57 Speaking of movie set,

1:17:59 I've been waiting for a while now. I've you know, there's a Hey. Let me guess.

1:18:03 You're waiting for this next Star Wars trailer.

1:18:07 Hail Apple.

1:18:08 No.

1:18:09 Oh.

1:18:11 Oh, Star Wars trailer.

1:18:13 Yeah.

1:18:16 No. I've been the the site intelligence group has an RSS feed. And with that, you get the headlines

1:18:23 from their feed, which you you can't see anything.

1:18:27 So you can't see the videos, you can't see any of the full stories, it's just a small summary, the beginning of the story. Mhmm. You if you want to see the videos, you have to register as a news now you can register as an individual $250

1:18:39 a year, but that does not give you the right to use them. You can and now if you register as a news organization, it's thousands of dollars a year and you get to use their material.

1:18:48 So I can legally not,

1:18:50 you know, get a $2.50 a year subscription and use it because, you know, that's part of the stipulation. That's just for individual use. So whenever something is in finally makes it to the mainstream, which I think has its reasons, we can use it. So I've seen

1:19:05 I haven't seen the actual videos because I can't get to them, but I've seen the headlines of,

1:19:09 ISIS runs over guy in a tank.

1:19:11 They've got, you know, all new videos and other beheading. All kinds of things we have not seen in the mainstream. And I think their job, Rita Katz,

1:19:18 the Iraqi Jew who has a chip on her shoulder who was clearly complicit in making these videos, I believe.

1:19:27 I think she just keeps making shit until it's time for someone to pick something up when the when the the script calls for something, and she always has something at the ready like this. Decide over left hand. It's a slickly produced video. Right there, you know. Oh, we're back on top. It's a Rita Katz production, everybody. Featuring a militant who knows a little something about making a good film. These are the houses of your brothers, of your sisters, of your fathers, of your children. Heavily armed with a distinct British accent, the man says he is with the al Nusra front, Al Qaeda's branch in Syria.

1:19:58 Destroyed. Just shattered from the explosion. And in the video, he slams the competing terror group, ISIS, for decimating a village in Northern Syria. The followers of the so called Islamic State

1:20:09 decided that in the middle of Ramadan, seventh of Ramadan, that the best, worship they could perform was to bomb the houses of innocent Muslims. According to the site intelligence group, which posted the video, the militant goes by Abu Basir al Britani.

1:20:23 But tonight, CNN has learned his real Abu Basir al Britani, like the guy from England, clearly. Name is Lucas Kinney, and his family once moved in Hollywood's top circles. Whoo. He's an explosive vessel. A distraught family member tells CNN Lucas Kinney is the son of Patrick Kinney, an assistant director who worked on blockbusters like Braveheart.

1:20:43 That's all for nothing if you don't have freedom. Kinney's father also helped direct a Rambo sequel. And, I mean, all of all films that give you the skills to do, you know, I don't know, military type sets. He worked with Steven Spielberg on Indiana Jones and the last crusade.

1:20:57 Those people are trying to crush. I know them. Now it appears Lucas Kinney is on his own terror crusade.

1:21:04 Uh-huh. This is a guy that had every advance And bring in the English

1:21:08 The British speaking expert,

1:21:10 terrorism expert, because it sounds so official. In

1:21:13 life,

1:21:14 yet still ended up with Al Qaeda,

1:21:17 with the terrorist group in Syria, somebody who appears to have traveled to Syria because he believed it was his religious duty to fight jihad. CNN has learned I I love how they say that

1:21:28 this guy is on a crusade.

1:21:30 It's kind of the opposite of what, what jihad is about. Kenny's father and his mother, a British national, divorced years ago. He attended the best schools in Cairo, Saudi Arabia, and Britain. One relative says Lucas was a rock and roller who once played in a band called Hannah's Got Herpes.

1:21:50 It doesn't get much better than this report. Hannah's Got Herpes, everybody. Hey, everybody. Welcome to talk 20 video countdown. I'm Adam Curry. Number one today, we've got Hannah's got herpes.

1:21:59 Your

1:22:06 mama's got a wart? Tonight, it appears Lucas Kinney is using those performance skills to aid a brutal terror group, and experts warn he could exploit his familiarity with Western culture to deadly effect. Uh-huh. Some of these recruits are becoming suicide bombers ready to give up their lives. The worry is that they could be sent back to the West to launch attacks, that they could be trained inside Syria by Al Qaeda. Right now, the group's focus is on Syria. The worry is that could change. I love it. New guy on the scene. Oh god. Badi Badi Al Bagh Brittani.

1:22:36 And the thing is he could exploit his knowledge of Western culture. Yes. He might. It could happen. Anybody

1:22:43 could.

1:22:45 Go down to your local falafel shop here in New York, and you're gonna find somebody that can exploit their knowledge of Western culture. So if anyone has access to the site intelligence video feed, please send me a copy of the following headline I read. Hold on. I'll read the headline and the the

1:23:01 synopsis.

1:23:10 The Shumuk al Islam instigation workshop,

1:23:14 it's like the children's television workshop only in in in The Middle East.

1:23:19 A media group affiliated with the prominent deep web jihadi forum,

1:23:24 Sumuk Al Islam, released a video advising Islamic state supporters

1:23:28 in how to best utilize Twitter to promote

1:23:31 IS material,

1:23:32 showing a mock beheading of Twitter founder Jack Dorsey.

1:23:36 I know it should be tech news, but I had to slip it in early.

1:23:41 Please send me this video.

1:23:44 Please.

1:23:45 That'd be great. That's hilarious.

1:23:47 Mock me in. Of Jack Dorsey. That's

1:23:51 fantastic. That's the way I grew a beard, I think, just to become incognito.

1:23:55 Or to join the ranks. Who the hell knows? The whole thing, this Jack Dorsey thing is strange.

1:24:02 Yeah. He I think it's wrong that he well, we'll do that. You wanna I think it's wrong that he he had to give up a third of his stock. What is that all about?

1:24:13 I don't know.

1:24:14 But why not all the investors? Why not all the investors?

1:24:18 I don't know. I have no idea. VC.

1:24:20 I don't know. Good luck. Good luck, Jack. Good luck.

1:24:24 You know, they should just let that thing go away. Twitter should fold and then, know, then IS would have no more chance.

1:24:31 There you go. Why are they keeping this thing alive? The result is that the government buy them out and then shutter it. And it makes no sense. Why would the

1:24:39 ISIS ISIL

1:24:40 dash ISIS thing,

1:24:43 Why would they wanna get rid of Twitter? It's their main recruitment tool, I'm told over and over again. That makes no sense.

1:24:50 Well, they claim that they once every time one of them gets caught on Twitter saying Ali Akbar, they get kicked off. Ali Ali Akbar?

1:25:00 Whatever. Ali Akbar. Ali Ali Akbar.

1:25:03 Yeah. Well, they get kicked off. Yeah.

1:25:06 Oh, man.

1:25:08 Hey, I saw,

1:25:10 Mark Hall's

1:25:12 documentary Killing Ed

1:25:14 on Saturday. Yeah. You I think you emailed me saying something like that. Oh, no. You tweeted it that you saw someone. I also mentioned it on a Thursday show. Oh, wow.

1:25:24 This is great. What's it about?

1:25:27 So

1:25:28 it's initially it starts off about the charter schools

1:25:32 in America

1:25:33 and, you know,

1:25:36 how how charter schools work. But around 10:10,

1:25:39 twelve minutes,

1:25:41 it shows quite clearly, and this is where the rest of the the documentary goes,

1:25:45 that

1:25:47 Fatullah

1:25:48 Gulen,

1:25:49 that's the Imam who lives in Pennsylvania, was set up there by the, you know, the billionaire

1:25:54 who had felt had a falling out with Erdogan

1:25:57 and who was exiled, self imposed exile to Pennsylvania, the Poconos sitting up there in his big camp,

1:26:02 who runs

1:26:05 500,

1:26:06 more than 500 charter schools

1:26:09 in The United States. A large number, a 150 of them in Texas alone on the Harmony charter schools. Yeah. And it shows that the teachers barely speak English, they speak Turkish, they have no credentials.

1:26:22 The Turkish non English speaking teachers make twice as much as the,

1:26:26 as the the poor schlubs who are coming in for 20,000 a year to, you know, with teaching degrees,

1:26:32 how they take

1:26:34 all kinds of politicians on free trips to Turkey, including douche bag du jour, Mike McCall,

1:26:41 that horrible woman from Dallas, what's her name? The idiot we hate so much.

1:26:46 Which, which one? Oh, the black one? Yeah.

1:26:50 Was Sheila

1:26:51 Jackson. Sheila Jackson.

1:26:53 They're all in Turkey, living it up, having a good time, all for free, taking bribes,

1:26:58 buying rugs

1:27:00 and it's and it but it's what I like about it is it doesn't well, so the conclusion I got walking away from the movie is, you know, if you want to have a bloodless jihad, if you want to expand the Ottoman Empire,

1:27:12 which without doubt is certainly Erdogan's

1:27:15 mission

1:27:16 and,

1:27:17 I think is also is the Imam's

1:27:21 Gulen

1:27:22 is his mission,

1:27:23 you know, then the best way to do it is to educate

1:27:26 thousands and thousands and thousands of children

1:27:30 about how great Turkey is and you know, how great Islam is. And, there's there's no oversight. And, you know, they're also in Pearson.

1:27:38 Thank you, Bill Gates. Yep.

1:27:41 And, so it it really focuses on the education aspect, but has enough of what Mark calls Easter eggs in there that you really just go holy crap, who is this guy? What is going on?

1:27:54 Outstanding.

1:27:54 Outstanding. And, I can't I he'll probably get some interesting protests when this thing opens up.

1:28:01 He's already, know, he's, you know, he's

1:28:03 he's a a lawyer, a former lawyer, if he can ever be an ex lawyer.

1:28:08 So he's prepared, he's ready. He's already received some,

1:28:11 you know, some nasty noise. Yeah. Nasty noise here and there.

1:28:16 But Killing Ed is the movie Killing Ed. I think it's killinged.com.

1:28:19 Let me see. What's it Oh, killingeducation.

1:28:21 Yeah.

1:28:23 So, there was my lip smack. Yeah, killinged.com.

1:28:27 Interesting. Yeah.

1:28:29 Well, I heard it.

1:28:30 Very interesting.

1:28:33 Certainly,

1:28:34 if you're if there's any No Agenda thinking going on in your brain,

1:28:37 you've heard about Futula Gulen. And why this is not being discussed?

1:28:42 Well, it's because they bribed the congress. Obviously, Sheila Jackson, whatever her last real name is. Sheila Jackson Lee and Mike McCall, who was on the intelligence committee. And the amount of federal money

1:28:55 going to this outfit is, in excess of half $1,000,000,000

1:29:00 per year for bull crap charter schools that are no good,

1:29:05 that are not teaching kids anything. You know, they got all kinds of undercover footage of you have these schools as a joke. Hey. We're gonna do a science fair, and the kids didn't make the projects. No. They were given projects and told how to set up their booth and how to talk about it.

1:29:18 It's it's disgusting.

1:29:20 Well, it's a form of education. Yeah. Okay. Well, spokes hole. Good point.

1:29:26 So great. Congratulations

1:29:28 to Mark. Good work. Well, this is just another thing that we have to keep on. Well, we've been on, you know, all over it, really.

1:29:37 Yeah. Agree. This is just just another extra bit that we need to be

1:29:42 Before we leave The Middle East,

1:29:45 I do want to play this one clip. It's kind of an interesting little clip. It's actually a long clip, but it's not that long.

1:29:51 This is Kucinich,

1:29:53 a clip taken when in 2012 before he got screwed by his own party and gerrymandered out of a job because nobody wants to listen to this guy. And we liked Kustinich a lot. He was a he's he was a democrat, and I guess he still is. Yeah. And he made a lot of sense. It just his his posture and his voice made him, you know, just doesn't work for American

1:30:14 media politics.

1:30:15 Not any no. And they then they also, they didn't need to hear his message.

1:30:20 No. Why bother? Said there's a lot of corruption going on in Washington and, you know, we gotta do something about it.

1:30:27 Solution to the corruption. Let's get rid of you.

1:30:31 We owe it to the diplomatic corps who serves our nation to start at the beginning,

1:30:36 and that's what I shall do.

1:30:39 The security threats in Libya, including the unchecked

1:30:42 extremist groups who are armed to the teeth, exist because our nation spurred on a civil war destroying the security and stability of Libya.

1:30:51 And, you know, no one defends,

1:30:54 Gaddafi.

1:30:55 Libya was not in a meltdown before the war. In 2003,

1:31:00 Gaddafi reconciled with a community of nations by giving up his nation's pursuit of nuclear weapons. At the time, president Bush said, Gaddafi's actions made our country and our world safer.

1:31:10 Now during the Arab Spring, uprisings across the Middle East occurred and Gaddafi made ludicrous threats against Benghazi.

1:31:18 Based on those verbal threats, we intervene.

1:31:21 Absent constitutional

1:31:22 authority, I might add. We bombed Libya. We destroyed their army. We obliterated their police stations lacking any civil authority, armed brigades,

1:31:31 control security.

1:31:32 Al Qaeda expanded its presence.

1:31:34 Weapons are everywhere. Thousands of shoulder to air missiles are on the loose.

1:31:38 Our military intervention led to greater instability in Libya.

1:31:43 Many of us, Democrats and Republicans alike, made that argument to try to stop the war. It's not surprising

1:31:50 given the inflated threat and the grandiose

1:31:52 expectations

1:31:53 inherent in our nation building in Libya that the state department was not able to adequately protect our diplomats from this predictable threat.

1:32:02 It's not surprising, and it's also not acceptable.

1:32:06 We wanna stop the attacks on our embassies.

1:32:08 Let's stop trying to overthrow governments. This should not be a partisan issue. Let's avoid the hype. Let's look at the real situation here. Interventions do not make us safer. They do not protect our nation.

1:32:21 They are themselves a threat

1:32:23 to America. That is percentage.

1:32:25 You must be eliminated.

1:32:28 Big mistake.

1:32:31 What's he doing talking sense?

1:32:33 Yeah. Well, he's out.

1:32:37 Out for good.

1:32:38 We need that kind of thing. Did you see Jeb Bush

1:32:41 whining and complain crying? Oh, poor Jeb Bush. He's just pathetic. This is I love this. He's crying.

1:32:48 Here is if we of course, if we He knows that he was assigned to you know, he was like, you know, there's some backroom

1:32:55 somewhere, and he was assigned to be the next president. Yeah. And he's

1:32:59 folded on him thanks to Trump coming in and screwing screwing with him. Yeah. And now he's whining.

1:33:05 Be oh, just there's none of this. It's beyond whining. He's like a little spoiled brat douchebag.

1:33:11 This election is about how we're going to fight to get nothing done.

1:33:15 Then I don't want anything I don't want any part of it.

1:33:18 Don't

1:33:19 of I don't any part of it. I don't wanna be elected president to sit around and see gridlock just become so dominant. I wanna do great things like my brother and my daddy. That people literally are in decline in their lives. Whatever that means. That is not my motivation. I got a lot of really cool things that I could do other than sit around. Oh, yeah. I I could do a whole bunch of I could go flying.

1:33:40 I could go boating.

1:33:41 I could do I I have a make things and sell them on Etsy. This is not fair. Being miserable,

1:33:47 listening to people demonize me, and me feeling compelled to demonize them. That is a joke.

1:33:53 Elect Trump if you want that. You go ahead and elect him then. You'll see how it works out.

1:33:58 Yeah. I heard this one too. And I

1:34:01 don't have Trump's

1:34:03 I should have clipped it, but he says, he he was writing him even more saying, and now apparently, Jeb has to meet with his mommy and his daddy to figure out what's going on. Mommy, daddy, what am I gonna do?

1:34:16 That's exactly what you'd imagine. What

1:34:19 a that's so that's not my president. I'll tell you that for sure.

1:34:23 Whining baby.

1:34:25 What a dick.

1:34:27 Yeah. Well, it was he had it in all along.

1:34:30 Yeah.

1:34:32 I mean, you can just see how it goes.

1:34:34 Alright, Jeb. You're up. You're gonna be next. You'll be next president. It's all in the buggy. It's all in the pocket. We're good to go. And it would be nice as bet.

1:34:41 With,

1:34:42 George W.

1:34:43 The the family put, Cheney in in as vice president just for that exact same reason. To handle him, of course. Yeah. Handler. Yeah. So you don't go off the rails because the kids are obviously, you know, idiots. Yeah. He's, you know, drinking beer, choking on pretzels. Come on.

1:34:59 Remember that? Remember that?

1:35:01 Choke

1:35:02 vaguely, the choking thing. Yeah. He's he's almost died.

1:35:07 Oh.

1:35:09 Oh, man. Alright. Let's check-in with my favorite topic. I I remain obsessed about the migration,

1:35:15 world migration taking place. So this is it. Once they cross this bridge, a few more steps, and they are into Slovenia. But what the Slovenian authorities are saying is that Croatia is simply dumping thousands upon thousands

1:35:28 of refugees and migrants

1:35:30 on their border.

1:35:32 The Slovenian security forces soon pick this group up, but there's no transport.

1:35:38 They now have to walk 10 kilometers to the nearest camp. Yeah. How about Jeb Bush making we don't want us to walk 10 kilometers. I'm like, scared. Let's make Donald talk to him. Under the watchful eyes of armed police Making soldiers there. Carrying automatic weapons.

1:35:53 This hostile Hi, migrants. Take a look at my automatic weapon. Reception perhaps deliberate

1:35:59 because the Slovenian government insists

1:36:02 it cannot cope with this large influx into such a small country. But the Croatians say they'll continue dropping as many refugees and migrants as possible on the border,

1:36:14 not least because of fears the numbers arriving in this region from Greece may soon increase dramatically.

1:36:20 It is

1:36:22 9,000,

1:36:23 11,000,

1:36:24 and then now we can expect about 30,000 people in next few days here. Meanwhile,

1:36:30 the group walking through Slovenia

1:36:32 is finally approaching a transit camp.

1:36:37 That's not high. Good to see you. But they're greeted with jeers from the refugees and migrants inside.

1:36:44 The camp's already full.

1:36:46 Others shout to us that they and their children are hungry.

1:36:49 If ever there was a need for European countries

1:36:52 to coordinate their approach to the migrant crisis,

1:36:55 it is now.

1:36:56 Yeah. And

1:36:58 they have another emergency meeting today in Brucelle,

1:37:03 Brucelle to see what we're gonna do.

1:37:07 Meanwhile, the German newspapers are full on gublizing everything. This is pretty cool. Headlines,

1:37:13 refugees

1:37:14 don't steal jobs.

1:37:16 Headline. Refugees

1:37:18 are all good people. No criminals. No terrorists.

1:37:21 Headline. All will be good. Go back to playing your harpsichord, citizen. It's all fine.

1:37:27 Wow. Yeah. And in Sweden now Sweden is really falling apart. Sweden is not a very big country. No. It's very small. Well, they have, like, six or I seven mean, million big land mass, but the number of people there is very small. Play the Sweden killing so you get a little background on one thing going on. Outstanding.

1:37:42 Police in Sweden now say that a masked man who attacked a school with a sword and knife yesterday

1:37:48 was motivated by race. He killed two people and wounded two in Trollhatten.

1:37:54 It's a town with a large Trollhatten?

1:37:56 What? Is that where the trolls I love I thought they said troll hunting. Trollhunting.

1:38:00 In Trollhatten,

1:38:01 it's a town with a large immigrant population.

1:38:04 All of the victims were dark skinned.

1:38:07 Today, mourners paid their respects at a makeshift memorial. Hold on a second. She says dark skinned, but what she means is black.

1:38:14 They're not dark skinned like Syrian dark skinned. They're black. These are not refugees from Syria. And these are like Sudanese. Yes, sir. Yes. Four out of five, in fact, according to the local newspapers

1:38:25 are not from Syria. While the local police chief reported on the investigation.

1:38:30 What? That is so lame. Dark skinned. What why don't you say what you mean there, Judy? Think what's her name?

1:38:37 Judy. Judy? Judy. We have discovered a a letter in his apartment, and, it's, has some notes in it that tells us that he has planned the act, and he has also

1:38:50 he planned it out of a a hate crime perspective.

1:38:54 And he is also

1:38:55 told us due by that letter that he's going to he considered that this will be his final act.

1:39:02 The attack came as it was announced that as many as a 190,000

1:39:06 asylum seekers may enter Sweden this year alone.

1:39:10 But, today, the government agreed to restrict the country's liberal immigration policies.

1:39:15 Yeah. Hello. We're from Sweden from Troll Hunters.

1:39:20 I wanted to play that clip for two reasons. One is kind of a little background, but the the police guy, he that's your that's the voice you do.

1:39:28 Yes. We have lots of problems with the troll hunters.

1:39:31 Hunters. Hunters. Here in troll hunters country, we have a lot of problems with the 190,000

1:39:37 we expect to come.

1:39:39 And and we see the tents are burning. Tents are being burnt

1:39:43 by the people of Sweden.

1:39:45 I'm glad you like it.

1:39:48 The people of Sweden don't like the 190,000

1:39:51 immigrants. It's we can't have them. We they're dark skinned. Look. Look. Look. Look. This is he's not Syrian. He's he's blacky.

1:39:58 Alright. Now I just made all Swedes racist.

1:40:01 Well,

1:40:04 let's we do not get as much support from the Swedes as we should. No wonder.

1:40:12 My goodness. Yes. Okay. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Yeah. Just like Republican talk radio. But

1:40:19 just like it. Bunch of racist a holes. Exactly. We're just like it.

1:40:24 After the show,

1:40:26 on Thursday,

1:40:27 you said, I think you're right. This is World War three.

1:40:31 And and it is a different form of, of war.

1:40:35 And let's take into account one more thing that we didn't get to

1:40:38 on Thursday's show. I also wanna match up, although I don't I'm just gonna talk a big game, but I would like to match it up with the

1:40:47 changes that took place in Germany in the thirties. Okay. Well, yes. So it comes through I'm not gonna do it today. I'm just but I'm gonna do it and it's gonna match up perfectly so we do have the conflagration

1:40:57 taking place in 2020

1:41:00 because

1:41:01 there's somebody came up with a very similar theory as to my cycles,

1:41:04 but he's basing it on a fifty year cycle, and I'm not getting that. Not

1:41:08 happening. It's not fifty years. It's forty. Forty.

1:41:11 Well, you know that now US companies have three months to negotiate a new safe harbor deal. Have you been following this? Ah, no. Yeah. This is part of the strike back. So the first thing, you know, we have is what what did we talk about on Thursday?

1:41:27 What are the Europeans doing?

1:41:30 Oh, jeez. No. I'm still fuzzy. Well, it doesn't matter. Here's the latest thing. European data protection authorities have given the European Commission and national governments three months to come up with an alternative to the safe harbor agreement,

1:41:42 which was swept away just two weeks ago by a ruling of the court of justice of the European Union. This is about

1:41:48 Facebook in particular

1:41:50 not being allowed to take data that is collected and stored in the EU countries.

1:41:57 They may not ship that back to The US for analysis or anything else.

1:42:02 And, of course, they're doing that consistently. You know, their networks are like, you know, like they have one big data center. Big data. And the EU is saying, okay, you got you got three months to figure it out, but this is a huge problem.

1:42:14 And this is part of

1:42:16 World War three.

1:42:18 Well,

1:42:20 we don't get involved for another three years. What was the Four years maybe.

1:42:25 Yeah. But what was the thing that we were talking about on Thursday

1:42:30 that was also part of the world?

1:42:32 No. That was that was the same safe harbor deal. Was there something else? I don't know. Yeah.

1:42:38 We, you know, we do the show, we get the information out there, then we go on. We forget about it. We forget about it. Yeah.

1:42:44 We go forward. We don't go backwards. But, you know, but this is what this is what's happening.

1:42:49 You know, this this is, you know, we of course struck out in Germany and we like screwed the screwed Volkswagen.

1:42:56 And let's be honest, we screwed Volkswagen.

1:42:58 We screwed them.

1:42:59 Yeah. Everyone is doing this. Every single diesel company was screwing around with defeat devices.

1:43:05 Turns out, I think Volkswagen might have had multiple defeat devices just to make it even crazier. How many different defeat devices did Volkswagen make and just how many people were in on the scheme? The company says a few rogue engineers created the software that fooled emissions tests, but Reuters sources say VW made multiple versions over a prolonged period.

1:43:27 If true, it would suggest a more complex deception by the German carmaker.

1:43:31 VW's defeat devices were installed on about 11,000,000 vehicles worldwide.

1:43:37 Analysts estimate the scandal could cost the company up to €35,000,000,000

1:43:42 when you toss-up the likely cost of vehicle refits,

1:43:45 fines, and lawsuits.

1:43:46 VW in Europe and The United States has declined to comment on whether it developed multiple devices,

1:43:53 citing ongoing investigations by the company and authorities in both regions.

1:43:58 Some industry experts say if there were several versions of the device, it would raise the possibility that more employees were involved.

1:44:05 That's a key issue for investors

1:44:07 because it could affect the size of potential fines and the extent of management change at the company.

1:44:13 And there could be more trouble ahead for those at the top. There are reports that legal action could be launched on behalf of shareholders

1:44:20 with as much as €40,000,000,000

1:44:22 being sought over the scandal. 40,000,000,000.

1:44:27 Fabulous.

1:44:28 You should get a hold of one of these things. They're gonna be worth money one day.

1:44:32 Well

1:44:34 I

1:44:36 don't know what the hell that was. This is what I wanted. The

1:44:40 only good phone's a landline,

1:44:41 and the phone should be made out of Bakelite. That's right, everybody. It is Sunday. Time for the tech horny to move out of the way as the Curry and Dvorak, technology consulting group bring you

1:44:51 another Sunday tech news. Hail Apple, John. Hail Apple. What you got? Well, I got a couple things here. It's a story

1:44:59 about the founder

1:45:01 of CNET.

1:45:02 Oh, Halsey Miner.

1:45:04 Yes. Yes. Halsey Halsey went on his when he when he had money before he Yeah. He blew it all. He blew it all on Hookers and Blow and wound up with not much. No. He blew it on art and mansions

1:45:15 that he didn't live in, one of them in San Francisco, 800 Washington,

1:45:19 which has been sitting vacant for the last two or three years. But he had his art collection in there, and I'll tell you, I'm gonna play this story,

1:45:26 and I'm going to now say that I could this is the one reason I think it might have been

1:45:32 fortuitous if I was on Facebook,

1:45:35 but I wasn't, so I missed out on on apparently some good art at a good price. Oh, drat.

1:45:41 There you go. A vacant mansion and one big art heist. Tonight, police say a squatter almost got away with it. KPIX five's Andrea Borba is in San Francisco with that story. Andrea?

1:45:53 Well, Ken, neighbors here in Presidio Heights say the home has become a blight and a nuisance. It is often the scene of San Francisco police chases through the property. They say one suspect moved in and set up shop.

1:46:09 800 Washington, San Francisco detectives say this man, 39 year old Jeremiah Kahler, tried to pull off a low rent version of the Thomas Crown affair. It all began when they say the Arizona native started squatting on the decaying property two months ago. Neighbors say the mansion, most recently owned by the founder of CNET, has been vacant for at least five years.

1:46:30 They first noticed Kahler lurking and called SFPD,

1:46:34 but Kahler had an answer for them. He advised the officers that,

1:46:40 he was in the process of being the proprietor

1:46:43 of this home and

1:46:44 taking ownership of this home. That story held up until SFPD got ahold of the real estate agent who said that was definitely not the case.

1:46:53 When officers caught up again with Kahler, there was a new wrinkle. The sales manager advised our officers that there were several paintings that were missing. 11 to be exact, worth a cool $300,000.

1:47:07 Kahler was allegedly selling them on social media, including Facebook. It was nowhere

1:47:12 near the range of what the value of these paintings are worth. So far, officers have gotten nine of the paintings back and are still scratching their heads at the neat heist.

1:47:21 This messy haired suspect nearly pulled off. For a person to generate some type of documentation

1:47:26 that shows some type of form saying that he has some proprietary rights to stay in this house. It is a little bit more sophisticated

1:47:34 than the average squatter.

1:47:36 Now the suspect has been charged with one count of trespassing

1:47:40 and 10 counts of burglary in this case. Live in Presidio Heights, Andre Vorba, KPIX five.

1:47:46 To the mighty have fallen. Yes.

1:47:49 Halsey.

1:47:51 Poor guy.

1:47:52 Poor bastard. LA now. Oh, really? Yeah. In some in, like,

1:47:59 it's a big it's not a small house he's living in, but it's not what he's used to. I have

1:48:05 I have a couple of contributions for tech news today on this Sunday.

1:48:08 First is a little update on Clockboy, which seems to be a technology story. I see

1:48:13 I've seen technology tech horny people discuss it everywhere. Student would only say that it was a clock and was not forthcoming at that time about any other details.

1:48:23 Having no other information to go on and take This is the Irving police chief. Taking into consideration

1:48:29 the device's suspicious appearance

1:48:31 and the safety of the students and the staff at MacArthur High School,

1:48:35 the student was taken into custody for possession of a hoax bomb. Our reaction and and you've seen the image. Our reaction would have been the same either way. That's a very suspicious device.

1:48:45 We live in an age where you can't take things like that just And by the way, in Texas specifically,

1:48:49 there is a law that you may not,

1:48:52 flaunt a hoax bomb. There is a specific law in Texas about Schools, of course, we've seen across our country horrific things happen. We have to on the side of caution.

1:49:02 The reaction would have been the same regardless,

1:49:04 if a device like that is found under the circumstances that it was found in the school. And the nice thing to add to that is that Clockboy has emigrated to Qatar.

1:49:13 He's

1:49:15 he's left for Qatar.

1:49:17 Yeah. The whole thing is a scam.

1:49:19 We need Just to to make everyone look like idiots. Qatar, of course, are financing a lot of the bull crap in The Middle East.

1:49:26 And he met with the Sudanese

1:49:28 president, you know, known as a war criminal.

1:49:31 Yeah. Fantastic.

1:49:32 I had a clip. I think it was about three shows that we didn't play. Mhmm. But the guy is talking to bitching about Qatar, he says, Qatar

1:49:41 is the number one supporter of the Muslim brotherhood. Yes.

1:49:45 Number one. Yeah.

1:49:47 And they're the It's just troublemakers. Yeah. And they're and they're the ones that are pissed off about Assad because they couldn't run their pipeline up to Turkey through Aleppo and Holmes, and so that's why they decided to help out.

1:49:58 Oh, it's it's disgusting.

1:50:00 Alright. Well, I've got an item. Okay. I have more.

1:50:05 Well, I only have one more. I

1:50:07 might I can make other ones into tech news, but this is tech news. This is fake reviews. We should discuss this a little bit. Fake reviews. Next

1:50:16 tonight to a consumer alert, Amazon going to battle over those popular online reviews so many of us read and rely on before we buy something. The retail giant now suing thousands of people who write those reviews, some are paid to write them. Here's ABC's chief business correspondent, Rebecca Jarvis.

1:50:32 They help you decide where to eat, what to buy, even which retailers to trust. Sellers on Amazon,

1:50:40 have said that a good review can make or break their product. If they have a low starred ranking, then it can totally Who is this vocal fry woman?

1:50:50 Gotta make her bread. Just knock them out of the running. But turns out, it's actually some of those reviews you shouldn't trust.

1:50:57 Tonight, Amazon is suing more than a thousand individuals for writing fake reviews,

1:51:03 allegedly offering their services on the online marketplace,

1:51:06 fiverr.com,

1:51:08 using ads like this one, promising an awesome five star review for just $5.

1:51:14 And just look how easy they are to find. I go on Fiverr,

1:51:18 type in

1:51:19 Amazon reviews,

1:51:21 and just like that, dozens of people offering to write a review for $5. Fascinating. Fiverr says it actively removes services that violate our terms of use.

1:51:32 How can you spot the fakes? Beware of corporate lingo, like full brand names, model numbers, and discount codes and links. Look for ranting phrases, like does not work, or hate it. Negative reviews can also be fakes.

1:51:47 Rebecca Jarvis, ABC News. Wow. Lovely.

1:51:51 Alright.

1:51:52 Time for the next item. I'm gonna do this between stories

1:51:55 on tech news. I think we should have

1:51:57 tells everyone it's a tech news story. You really like that sound. I do. Alright. Another tech news story for you. Sounds like a bug. Well, I have a I have an alternate which is this one.

1:52:09 It's the same thing. No. It has a whoosh in front of it. See, this is that just has a little bit, and the other one has a whole whoosh thing. Do you like the the staccato, or you want the whoosh?

1:52:20 You

1:52:21 can decide. You don't like either one. Next

1:52:23 item next item here on tech news. I I thought we're gonna discuss a little bit about the last item. Okay. Hold on a second. And now time for

1:52:32 a discussion about the last item on tech news.

1:52:35 I wrote a column about this in PC Magazine, a little native advertising here. And by the way, there was native advertising for fiverr.com

1:52:42 in that story and ABC,

1:52:44 which I think all stories eventually will be all

1:52:47 native advertising is gone pathetic. Although the FCC regulations that I've been looking at

1:52:53 specifically

1:52:54 forbid,

1:52:56 and they have all kinds of ways that you're supposed to announce this on television.

1:53:00 If you are if there's any compensation,

1:53:03 you have to disclaim that.

1:53:05 And they have, know, size, if you're gonna do it in letters,

1:53:07 in a font, it has to be, you know, 4% of the full screen height. And there's there's a whole bunch of real regulations

1:53:15 that How

1:53:17 about this for an idea?

1:53:19 I'm the sales guy from ABC, and I go to McDonald's. So we need to do your quarter million dollar buy. Well, hold on a second. Hold on a second. I'm I'll let's see what I can

1:53:31 Hello?

1:53:32 Hello? Hello. Who's this? I'm a salesman from ABC. Hey, ABC Disney. Hey. How's Jeb Bush doing? He's, he's not doing as well as we hope. We're guys switching our switching our coverage to somebody else. The guy's a dud. Alright. Good. Well, hey. This is Ray, from McDonald's Corporation, and we're thinking about, expanding our campaign,

1:53:52 and some of our dollars. We're kind of looking around, looking for some pitches, and see if anyone has any good ideas. Yeah. We have a pretty good idea. That's why I wanted to talk to you. You guys,

1:54:02 we we like the quarter million buy in for the month of

1:54:05 of coming Quarter million. What what kind of GRPs will I get for my quarter million? I it just it's not it's be it's really gonna be a lot different than the way it used to be calculated because we have a great idea. You mean you're thinking out of the box?

1:54:17 Yeah. What we're thinking is we're gonna do a number of stories.

1:54:21 Like, you know, these stories, like, maybe a story about you got breakfast

1:54:25 all day. Okay. We think we can put that on the national news. I think David Muir would love to do that story about I do sing. Breakfast all day. You have my attention, sales guy. Continue. And so the so that'll just that is now a bonus. We're gonna bonus you because our numbers have been crap last last month. So I won't have to pay for this, or you're saying I'm getting a credit rating too too free. It's totally free. Anything.

1:54:46 Wow. But, of course, the best of the buy in, you're gonna do a buy in Yeah. Because, know, it If you could jack it up to another $3.50 It would look really it would look really strange if, you know, if you had this live shot. And then you had to say, you know, FCC regulation says it's No. No. That's how we get around it. Oh, I see. It's it's like a it's a reach around.

1:55:05 Yes. Exactly. That's what we call it. In fact, we call it the ABC reach around. Love it. I feel good already. Good. Well, we'll we'll book you. We'll book It's a it's a go. Write up that order. Alright. We will.

1:55:16 Okay.

1:55:18 So what does the FCC say to that? Yeah. You're right. That's how it goes. You said we didn't get paid for it. Damn.

1:55:24 Right. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Now, you know, you could be an executive.

1:55:28 I could. Yeah. Like, I should be. Now I've been talking about the dangers

1:55:33 of these personal assistants

1:55:36 for a ever since they they came out. And, you know, we see my,

1:55:41 Amazon Echo device being triggered. We see Siri being triggered, especially if you say Syria, Syria, Syria, hey, Syria, hey, Syria.

1:55:49 You know, that triggers her. If you say,

1:55:52 elections, it triggers Alexa.

1:55:54 And depending on what

1:55:58 these things are programmed to do, you could conceive that bad things could happen.

1:56:04 Now that is only if you have some form of voice broadcasting device, if you're on television and people are watching it.

1:56:12 I have here in front of me a technical paper

1:56:16 from Kasmy and Lopez Estevez

1:56:19 titled IEMI

1:56:21 threats for information security remote command injection on modern smartphones.

1:56:27 And here is what they,

1:56:30 tested and This title again, read the title again. It is IEEE

1:56:34 no,

1:56:36 I'm sorry. IEMI

1:56:38 threats for information security colon,

1:56:41 remote command injection on modern smartphones.

1:56:44 Okay.

1:56:45 And this is a part of IEEE trans trans transactions

1:56:48 on electromagnetic

1:56:50 compatibility.

1:56:51 So

1:56:52 if they figured out that you can trigger the voice control command

1:56:58 on a smartphone,

1:57:01 if you broadcast on 103

1:57:04 megahertz,

1:57:05 and I believe that has to be, amplitude modulation,

1:57:09 and you include the keyword

1:57:12 following

1:57:13 voice commands.

1:57:14 So we're not talking an audible signal

1:57:17 to the phone,

1:57:19 but actual radio transmission.

1:57:23 Are you with me? Yeah. It's great. So with so if you have enough power,

1:57:28 then you could reach a number of smartphones

1:57:31 in the any in the area of the electric signal.

1:57:36 Then

1:57:37 So all you need is a a big tower, a radio tower, maybe one of the abandoned ones you could buy, which has a an amplifier

1:57:44 or a transmitter in it and 10,000

1:57:47 watts or something like that, 50?

1:57:49 They also,

1:57:51 well, they they actually tried it with much less. They did the 25 to 30 volts per meter,

1:57:57 at one zero three megahertz,

1:57:59 and you can get different results,

1:58:02 with an FM modulated signal emitted on the same frequency, and you can do the voice command.

1:58:08 That's where you inject the actual command you want to be given. So the wake up command is amplitude modulation,

1:58:14 and this they don't the smartphone they use, which is not an iPhone, but they've also

1:58:19 done this with iPhones, they claim.

1:58:21 You need AM modulation

1:58:23 and then to,

1:58:25 trigger the command FM modulation.

1:58:28 So, you know, this this, you know, their test was, you know, like a couple meters distance.

1:58:34 That doesn't make any difference at the end of the day. Exactly. Exactly. So this is a huge security hole.

1:58:41 It was designed for it. Yeah. Yeah.

1:58:44 Not a hole at all. Okay.

1:58:47 And then I had a question of conscience for you.

1:58:51 Uh-oh.

1:58:52 Let's say you're,

1:58:54 Google,

1:58:56 which is hold on a second. What am I thinking? I have a question of conscience for you.

1:59:01 If you are programming

1:59:03 a

1:59:04 self driving car,

1:59:07 and you need to program all these situations, let's say you are

1:59:12 riding down the road and all of a sudden,

1:59:15 there's a school bus

1:59:18 pulls over,

1:59:19 not even that. A school bus is gone. Kidding behind a car,

1:59:23 five school kids cross the road. You are you have two choices.

1:59:28 Either you go straight, you plow straight into the kids,

1:59:31 probably killing them, or you veer to the left and face a head on collision, which might kill you.

1:59:37 Which one which decision does your smart self driving car make?

1:59:42 Well, I would think that it would stop.

1:59:45 Let's say there are a number of situations that you can think of where there is no stopping.

1:59:51 There is only a choice between the driver getting this happens all the time, John. People make sense? Yes, it does. If only if you're speeding.

2:00:00 Oh, God. There are can you imagine a situation where you might have to choose between

2:00:06 putting yourself in danger or killing someone else? Is that imaginable at all to you? No. Okay. Well, then

2:00:13 then you're an unbelievable person.

2:00:16 I think there is enough evidence of this.

2:00:19 I'm always very cautious if I if I even in, like, neighborhoods, I drive I've and I also left foot brake,

2:00:27 which is I recommend to everybody even though they always said, no. Don't do it. Well, congratulations. You can now join the Google auto driving car. I don't think so, John. I think there's plenty of

2:00:36 you do? Let's ask you the same question. You'd plow into the kids. Well, of course.

2:00:41 Just wanted to make sure that we had the question of conscience out there. That's all. Obviously, you'd kill the kids.

2:00:48 Facebook photos now being ingested for the National Biometric Database.

2:00:54 Hey, great.

2:00:56 What?

2:00:56 Yep.

2:00:58 Yep. Does that what you signed on for? Does it say that in your terms of use when you signed on to use Facebook? You're a Facebook user. I'm not. You don't own anything.

2:01:08 They have a full,

2:01:10 full rights to give this certainly if there's a warrant. Oh, yeah.

2:01:14 Absolutely.

2:01:15 And, of course, you're tagged. Why would hold on a second.

2:01:18 Since we're doing tech news, why would anybody be a member of such a thing?

2:01:23 Oh, because you can show how great your life is to everybody, all your friends.

2:01:28 Mhmm.

2:01:32 Senator Scott senator

2:01:34 The price to pay is too high. Senator Scott Ludlam asked government officials if there was any law that could prevent the facial recognition system from accessing photos from social media sites.

2:01:44 Answer, no.

2:01:45 Of course not. In fact,

2:01:48 it has the

2:01:50 federal government's facial biometric matching capability

2:01:53 in their

2:01:55 national biometric database has the capability to do this and it apparently is being done.

2:02:04 Well, it's easier. That helps us identify people when the when the police state completely takes over, even though it doesn't seem to really need to. That's the key. And there's an interesting legal question on the horizon.

2:02:18 This is coming from the Department of Justice. They're they're trying to figure out actually, have one example. They want to unlock

2:02:24 a defendant's

2:02:27 iPhone.

2:02:28 Okay.

2:02:29 And

2:02:30 Apple says, of course, well, you know, we technically we can't bypass the security.

2:02:35 Sure. We're not gonna do this. But the government strategy is very interesting.

2:02:39 Okay. They're saying

2:02:43 the software on the iPhone does not belong to the user of the iPhone.

2:02:48 If you read the very latest It's licensed. It's licensed. Exactly.

2:02:53 So the government is saying, hey, this is your software.

2:02:57 You own it. We command you. We here's a warrant. You need to unlock this. Command you to fix. Yeah.

2:03:03 And what does Apple say to that? Well, this is a court case now. Oh.

2:03:08 This is a court case.

2:03:10 But I think

2:03:11 I think they have a point.

2:03:14 Yeah. Well,

2:03:17 this is not turning out well.

2:03:19 No.

2:03:20 But it is it is real tech news. Well, I got real tech news, and let's talk about the drones and the drone papers, which we've not talked about. I have, I have some analysis of the drone papers. And I would like to say this.

2:03:33 The mainstream media has ignored the drone papers. Yeah. I mean, they made such a big deal when Snowden

2:03:39 broke out all that stuff. Right? Or when WikiLeaks get some memos or when Chelsea

2:03:45 Manning sends something into the into the ether. But the drone papers, they've been mum about. And it look it looks like Twitter has some kind of logic they've baked in. If you retweet the drone papers,

2:03:57 the tweet doesn't necessarily show up.

2:04:00 Or are they using a clown filter? Could be. Where you see it, nobody else does. Buzzo filter? Yeah. Buzzo filter. Could be. Could be. That could be. That sounds like something they could do. Yeah. No. These draw so let's play this is the intro, and then we'll hear your analysis because I haven't got much.

2:04:14 But this is a good little piece from Democracy Now. Of course, they're not gonna pass up something like this because they got Scahill. Yes. And so they had they're gonna talk this is the end of a longer piece, but it does include the Scahill clip and then a little bit at the end from some British guy who's a lawyer involved with

2:04:33 freedom. Uh-huh. And it just was I found the whole thing interesting. Is this the drone kill list? Drone kill list.

2:04:40 Look at The US drone assassination program called the drone papers exposing the inner workings of how the drone wars wage from how targets are identified to who decides to kill. They reveal a number of flaws, including that strikes have resulted in large part from electronic communications data or signals intelligence that officials acknowledge as unreliable.

2:04:59 We spoke to Jeremy Scahill, co founder of The Intersen SF, one of the lead reporters on the series.

2:05:05 One of the most significant

2:05:07 findings of thisand my colleague Cora Curry really dug deep into this is we published for the first time the kill chain what the bureaucracy of assassination looks like. And what you see is that

2:05:19 all of these officials, including people like the treasury secretary,

2:05:23 are part of

2:05:24 signing off on all of this,

2:05:26 where they have these secret meetings,

2:05:29 and they discuss who's going to live and die around the world. And at the end of that process, it is the president of The United States

2:05:36 who signs

2:05:37 what amounts to a

2:05:39 death warrant

2:05:40 for whoever they've decided should die. The kill list is what Jeremy Scahill is talking about, Clive Stafford Smith, as we wrap up your response.

2:05:49 Well, it's something that just terrifies me, that, you know, I voted for President Obama twice. And yet, every Tuesday, they have Terror Tuesday where there's a PowerPoint display Terror Tuesday. In the White House, and they decide, much like Nero did back in the Colosseum in Rome, whether to give the thumbs up or the thumbs down for human beings who were just gonna murder around the world. And, you know, it begins with terrorism, but it'll move on. The British, horrifyingly, have already got a list of people that on their list in Afghanistan where they're saying they're gonna kill pedophiles,

2:06:19 for goodness' sake. I mean, where does this end? Could we just murder people worldwide? I mean, we plan to do a lot to publicize that in the upcoming First, they came for the pedophiles,

2:06:29 then they came for the podcasters.

2:06:31 When did you learn that Britain has a kill list to begin with? It was only a couple of weeks ago. Frankly, I'm very pleased because when both the Brits Americans are doing it, we can illustrate the folly of both instead of just picking on The US. I have two words for you.

2:06:43 Predator drones. Woo.

2:06:45 That's right. You'll never know what's coming.

2:06:48 Yeah.

2:06:49 Was blow up half of parliament, apparently.

2:06:52 Yeah.

2:06:54 So he already mentioned most of this. I mean, it's not a lot that we didn't already know. I did find out some things reading through all the drone papers. One is the,

2:07:02 the the drone base in Djibouti has expanded,

2:07:05 rapidly.

2:07:07 This thing has gotten a is three times the size that it used to be.

2:07:11 And it truly is our center of operations

2:07:15 in

2:07:16 in

2:07:18 Africa, and of course, The Middle East. You know, it's right across

2:07:21 across the The Gulf there from from Yemen.

2:07:25 And, you know, this is this is command central. This is where most of it comes from.

2:07:31 I also learned that of the Icarus program,

2:07:34 which

2:07:35 is it's an acronym. I'm just trying to see.

2:07:38 Well, we know what Icarus is. Icarus flew too close to the sun, he got burned.

2:07:42 Icarus is,

2:07:46 drones

2:07:47 that are meant to take out drones.

2:07:50 So these are

2:07:52 armed drones. Beginning of the end, World War three. Wait until you get the swarms. Wait until the drone starts swarming, and then, you know, where they're all programmed to swarm together.

2:08:01 And then finally, just a little piece of code,

2:08:03 which we need to be on the lookout for, which is EKIA.

2:08:08 This is this to me was the big revelation because you can see this everywhere now in in news stories.

2:08:14 EKIA

2:08:15 stands for enemy killed in action, which is code for civilian.

2:08:20 So if if

2:08:22 if they kill people who they can't identify because they were civilians,

2:08:26 it's an enemy killed in action. That's and so no longer is it collateral damage,

2:08:30 no longer is it, oops. They just redefine everything. This is the we talked about this on this previous show about the redefinitions,

2:08:37 the way you deal with a lot of political

2:08:40 issues. You redefine Yeah. Just defend. Just call it something different, and you're good to go. Yeah. Exactly.

2:08:45 Watch it turn it blue, and it's tough for me. I've launched my phone.

2:08:50 Black tire. That's it, everybody. More tech news next Sunday.

2:08:54 I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah. That'd be fab.

2:09:01 Yeah.

2:09:02 On No Agenda.

2:09:04 In

2:09:06 the morning.

2:09:07 We do have a bunch of people to thank for,

2:09:10 show seven sixty

2:09:12 eight.

2:09:13 Yes. And including, we did come up, if anyone read the last newsletter, they noticed that I had forgotten

2:09:20 about although last our last show, somebody came up with the $88.88 donation, the famous sack of the eights,

2:09:26 which was I think we first started this with five fifth

2:09:31 anniversary or sixth anniversary, maybe the sixth. Yeah. The only the only problem is that it's it's no alliteration in that. A sack of sixes, sack of sevens, but sack of eights, it doesn't feel good.

2:09:42 I I like eights.

2:09:44 Alright. We got plenty of eights. We got lots of people that came in with the sack of eights. Okay.

2:09:50 Sack of six, sexes, sack of six, sack of sevens does does illiterate better, but it doesn't change the idea.

2:09:58 Sorry.

2:09:59 You okay? No.

2:10:02 J Anonymous came in,

2:10:04 from Tigard, Oregon,

2:10:07 12345,

2:10:08 and he I want to,

2:10:11 just have a note here, which is in red, which means he's calling somebody out.

2:10:16 And please note that we there's no way for us to read,

2:10:20 all donation notes

2:10:22 in the regular donation segment just because of the, you know, for brevity sake. Yeah. It's the reason we stopped doing it. We used to do it. But we but for levity, we will sometimes read one. Yes. Or if there's somebody with some callouts. There you go. And Janonymous

2:10:36 wants to call out as douchebags.

2:10:39 Uh-huh.

2:10:40 Seth James.

2:10:41 Douchebag.

2:10:43 Adam Peterson. Douchebag.

2:10:45 And Hailey Hunsinger.

2:10:47 Douchebag.

2:10:49 I don't know. He's got a problem with those folks. I guess. Apparently they're not donating and they're big listeners to the show, at least that's the impression I'm given.

2:10:58 Clay

2:10:59 Gilliland

2:11:01 in Chandler, Arizona, 111.11.

2:11:05 A Crocata

2:11:06 Computer Services in Pacifica, California, which is right down the street from me. Not really, it's against the ocean. A $100.

2:11:13 Dame Beth

2:11:15 Borazan,

2:11:16 or Dame Beth of the Baronetas of Baja in Tucson, Arizona, 8948,

2:11:22 and now we have about

2:11:23 20 people who have come in with the 80 Saka 8s.

2:11:29 Eighty eight eighty eight? There you go.

2:11:32 Saka eights, and I'm gonna read them off each individually.

2:11:36 Brian Watson in Sugar Grove, Illinois.

2:11:39 Evgeny

2:11:41 Gitlin in

2:11:42 Springfield, Virginia. We should just call it eight balls.

2:11:46 Eight balls. An eight ball. We got an eight ball from these people.

2:11:51 Alright. We'll call it that for the last show that's coming up on Thursday. Send

2:11:55 us an eight ball. An eight ball. Yeah. Well, you know, we these things come and go. Jason Doolin in Lost Wages, Nevada.

2:12:04 Christopher Dolan in Brookline, Massachusetts.

2:12:08 Wesley Clark in Stanley, North Carolina.

2:12:11 James Zuckel

2:12:12 in Los Angeles, California. I got all the mispronunciations

2:12:16 for you guys. Good work. Christopher Dechter in Richmond

2:12:20 Richland,

2:12:21 Washington.

2:12:23 Mark Plager

2:12:24 Pledger, I think, in Beaver Creek, Ohio.

2:12:29 Jeremy

2:12:30 Cochran in It's

2:12:32 Janie Oh, Janie. On behalf of her husband, Matthew.

2:12:35 Janie on behalf of her mother husband,

2:12:39 Matthew.

2:12:40 James Wells, she's in Wichita, Texas. Did you get that picture I sent to you? Yeah. Mhmm.

2:12:47 Yeah. You're the worst. Yeah. We encourage this.

2:12:51 James Wells in Flagstaff,

2:12:54 Arizona. Philip

2:12:56 Rodokanakis,

2:12:58 Rodokanakis,

2:12:59 Rodokanakis

2:13:00 in Oak Hill, Virginia,

2:13:02 Ben Smith in Greenville,

2:13:04 Texas, not to be confused with Benjamin Smith in Oakland,

2:13:08 Alexander Burr in Laval, Quebec,

2:13:11 which I think is where the turbines used to be made. Donald Winkler in Berlin, Deutschland.

2:13:16 Frank

2:13:19 Alexander was Sir Chewy, by the way, sorry.

2:13:22 Oh, okay. That's alright.

2:13:25 Okay. Where was I? Donald Zinkler, Berlin, Deutschland. Frank

2:13:29 De Zogglio

2:13:30 in Jamestown

2:13:32 Rhode Island. Rhode Island. Robert Goschko in Sherwood Park, Alberta Matthew Hixson in Sun City, California

2:13:39 Lauren Shirk,

2:13:41 Norman, Oklahoma,

2:13:43 University of Oklahoma

2:13:45 Sir Gavin of St. George in Carleton,

2:13:48 Australia

2:13:49 Eric Nagel in

2:13:53 Buschottenspakenberg.

2:13:57 In the Old Thresht.

2:14:00 Yeah. That's fine. Very close. Netherlands.

2:14:03 Buzzkill to Spakenberg. How's your door toppers?

2:14:07 Kevin Thomas in Smyrna,

2:14:09 Georgia.

2:14:11 Peter

2:14:12 Vednor in Carmel, Indiana. Adam Willis in Washington DC.

2:14:16 Oh.

2:14:18 Matthew, we should get more Washington DC numbers. Matthew Lower in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

2:14:24 Sir Blackballs

2:14:26 of Twit,

2:14:27 Glenview, Illinois.

2:14:29 James Rocket in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada.

2:14:33 Barcelona Jazz in Edinburgh,

2:14:36 UK.

2:14:37 Von Glitschka

2:14:39 in Salem, Oregon. Zachary Gilbrecht in

2:14:42 Cordova,

2:14:43 Tennessee.

2:14:44 Todd Trotman in Austin, Texas, right down the street from you. Mhmm. Michael Ziz

2:14:49 what is that? Zills? Zillas or Zillas?

2:14:52 Bartlett,

2:14:53 Illinois.

2:14:54 Robert

2:14:55 Dreckesen.

2:14:56 Dreckesen

2:14:58 in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.

2:15:01 Nicholas Charbonnet

2:15:03 in Arziere,

2:15:04 Switzerland.

2:15:05 We need more Swiss.

2:15:07 Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas. Sir Josh Mandel in Greenville, South Carolina. And wrapping up, we got Garrett Reed in San Diego, California, and also Harvey Lee in Federal Way, Washington, which is actually the name of the town. Thank you all so much for these nicest

2:15:23 anniversary

2:15:24 That was doll nice stuff. Send us more eight balls for Thursday. Eight balls.

2:15:29 James Moore in San Pablo, California comes in with $80, and then we drop to Sir Chewy in Laval another dweller

2:15:36 of Laval, Quebec, 7711.

2:15:39 Richard McGiff

2:15:40 in Virginia Beach, Virginia. Eric Bird in Baltimore, Maryland, 6666.

2:15:46 Richard Giff was 75, and

2:15:49 Chewy is seventy seven eleven.

2:15:52 Eric,

2:15:53 Whoops. We got the cursor right on top of his name. Eric Bird in Baltimore, Maryland just said it's 6666.

2:15:59 Sir Kevin Dils, Charlotte, North Carolina, 6432. I like that number. 6432.

2:16:04 6432.

2:16:06 Why? I don't know. It's missing a five and it that's noticeable.

2:16:11 Yes. It is.

2:16:12 Sir,

2:16:13 Anderbaugh in,

2:16:15 Andy Bents in Saint Louis

2:16:17 5678.

2:16:18 Howard La

2:16:20 Curry

2:16:21 Hero. In Worcester,

2:16:23 Massachusetts.

2:16:24 Stephen

2:16:25 Schnabel in

2:16:27 Aknasheen,

2:16:29 UK,

2:16:30 double niggles on the dime.

2:16:32 You know, wrapping down to Harry Sepulveda in San Diego, California, 5280. These are also,

2:16:38 I think something

2:16:39 special. So this is the Mile High, guys. Carl Penfield in Clarksburg,

2:16:44 Maryland, fifty two eighty. Mark Klein in Barron, Wisconsin, fifty two eighty. Justin Thompson, fifty one fifty in Elk Grove,

2:16:51 California.

2:16:53 Carla Krueger in

2:16:55 Montgomery,

2:16:56 Alabama.

2:16:57 Joe

2:16:59 Schwartzbauer

2:17:00 in

2:17:01 Florissant,

2:17:02 Missouri.

2:17:03 Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville, Georgia. These are $50. I'm gonna just name $50 guys. Macy Stolowitz in Calgary, Alberta.

2:17:11 Sir Mark Tanner, of course,

2:17:13 in Whittier, California comes in every two weeks.

2:17:17 Bill Hudick

2:17:18 in Timonium, which is a great name for a town in Maryland, and that concludes everything. I do have a note from Carla Krueger,

2:17:25 which I will send to Adam, but it involves his

2:17:28 his take on vaccines, and she wrote a long handwritten note, which, by the way, she has very

2:17:34 this is an example of readable longhand.

2:17:37 Oh, beautiful. I mean, it is very pretty. I wish they would teach this in school. So

2:17:42 she has to be past a certain age or she wouldn't have been able to do this. It's not it's not calligraphy, it's just really pretty long hand. And, I want to thank all these folks for helping Tina the keeper also has that beautiful

2:17:53 old school handwriting.

2:17:55 Cursive.

2:17:58 Yeah. It's beautiful.

2:18:00 I can do cursive, but it looks like crap. Yes.

2:18:03 But I was trained to do it, but I just it's just you don't do it much when you're typing all the time, so it just gets deteriorated. You lose it. You lose it. And it's foreboding. You can't write cursive anymore in school.

2:18:15 That's not allowed. We want block letters from you dumb kids. That's right. Block letters.

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2:21:19 Yeah. You know, isn't it interesting?

2:21:23 You know, Lamar Odom, we we talked about that story that he was Yeah. You did. Yeah. That, you know, he had a mix of cocaine and herbal supplements. It's now gone to herbal supplements.

2:21:34 They can't they don't even say

2:21:36 sexual enhancement products.

2:21:38 But the crazy originally saying herbal Viego. Yeah. Well, a trademark, and they couldn't do that. Right. But now, you know, Khloe Kardashian,

2:21:45 she's called off the divorce.

2:21:48 And I'm thinking, this has got to be the first time in history

2:21:52 that a guy has saved his marriage with Hookers and Blow.

2:21:56 Yeah. Yeah. In the morning. I'll take I'll take one. You give yourself. I'll take one. Hey. We got a note from sir Atomic Rod.

2:22:03 He says, thank you for the generous mention on show seven six six. Gentlemen, it is an exaggeration to describe the core size for a ship

2:22:11 or sub reactor as football sized.

2:22:15 This we were we remember we were trying to figure out how big it would be to actually use some nuclear power with the new modern reactors.

2:22:21 Right. He says, it's possible to design functional cores that small, but the power output output would only be a few tens of kilowatts.

2:22:28 Might be enough for a small commercial building or grocery store. Without violating any rules,

2:22:34 he

2:22:35 says, I can tell you that the core of my nineteen sixties vintage sub,

2:22:39 which were 425

2:22:41 feet long, these are these are like the run silent run deep jobbies.

2:22:45 These are like this is a hunt for Red October.

2:22:47 It had a crew of 150

2:22:49 displaced

2:22:50 9,000 tons.

2:22:52 The core could fit under my office desk.

2:22:55 There you go. The core drove the subs for fourteen to sixteen years.

2:23:00 Modern US subs can run for, oh, yeah, thirty three years without refueling.

2:23:07 I don't know how large their cores are though. Sir Rod, sir Atomic Rod Adams, the Baronet of Blue Ridge Of The Blue Ridge.

2:23:13 And we, appreciate that info. Sir Rod? Well, I think this is all academic because we should just assume that the whole atomic thing is all

2:23:23 fifties technology

2:23:25 that's useless and it's gonna irradiate, kill everybody. It's hopeless.

2:23:29 It's no good. Yeah. Yeah. Tear down the reactors. Tear them down. Well, the the, there was this approval for one new reactor I saw. Oh, one whole new one. Crazy.

2:23:40 These are crazy.

2:23:44 This is the most ridiculous,

2:23:47 think

2:23:49 it's

2:23:50 just to to to take a technology, which has now been taken to the to an extreme of efficiency

2:23:56 and to just blow it off because you want wind power.

2:24:00 Well, because people have been programmed. They've been programmed into thinking that no one is the actual people who are interested in technology and science

2:24:08 have no desire apparently to go look at the science of modern nuclear reactors, breeder reactors. They have no desire.

2:24:15 So you are in fact anti science.

2:24:18 Yes. Even though this is the definition

2:24:22 of reusable energy because the new reactors eat their own waste. No waste. No waste. No waste.

2:24:31 Got a note from, producer Curry.

2:24:35 Adam and John, over the past few months, you've been discussing mass shootings and the link to medications.

2:24:40 I feel you're both on the right track. I thought I would share with you past few years.

2:24:45 It is years. Yes. Correct.

2:24:47 But I thought I would share my experience with you.

2:24:50 This got my attention. I'm like, oh, man, the guy went and killed somebody. Cool.

2:24:54 But no.

2:24:55 I have had epilepsy my entire life. Now my old doctor who I've seen since around 1977

2:25:00 had me on the same medication phenobarbital

2:25:03 since

2:25:04 I was diagnosed in the early eighties.

2:25:06 Since moving to my new neurologist since moving my new neurologist has suggested a new medication.

2:25:12 You would have rolled your eyes at this sales pitch

2:25:15 through slightly unintelligible English because he's, of course, a provider, not a doctor.

2:25:20 He went on to tell me how I should not be taking the Pheno and should be on Fycompa.

2:25:26 You might wanna look that up, John.

2:25:28 F y c o m p a, Fycompa.

2:25:31 F. His assertion

2:25:33 was the phenobarbital

2:25:35 only should be used by children.

2:25:37 And as a quote peer reviewed epilepsy

2:25:40 specialist,

2:25:41 he said and our producers, I don't know what the hell that means.

2:25:44 He said he should be be on a newer medication. He likened the new medication to the iPhone of all things, telling me it was, quote, new technology,

2:25:52 and I would be a new man when I was weaned off the phenobarbital.

2:25:56 When I finally relented, he had a look like a kid in a candy shop. He scurried down to his office and came back with four packets of samples that would last me around thirty days. I could almost see the dollar signs in his eyes as he instructed me how to trans transition to the new drugs.

2:26:11 I decided to try the new medication after about six months of his pestering me. Mind you, the new medication with my insurance cost me $50.

2:26:18 Without it, it's at least $1,200

2:26:20 for a thirty day supply. My old medication was $5 with insurance, $40 without. Yeah. Makes sense.

2:26:27 Cost alone though is not the only thing that gives me pause. The side effects are somewhat concerning.

2:26:33 I have attached a scan of the warnings from my pharmacy.

2:26:37 Have you looked up this drug yet? Yeah. You can get aggression or anger, anxiety,

2:26:42 clumsiness, unsteadiness,

2:26:44 you fall downstairs. Is there an ad an ad for this? Is there some Dry mouth is on drugs.com.

2:26:49 We need a dry mouth. Dry mouth, hyperventilation.

2:26:51 No. I maybe I haven't seen one.

2:26:53 Hyperventilation,

2:26:54 irregular heartbeats, irritability,

2:26:56 restlessness,

2:26:57 shakiness and unsteady walk, shortness of breath, sleepiness, unusual drowsiness,

2:27:04 trouble

2:27:05 sleeping. You're drowsy, but you can't sleep. I love that. Here here is the warning from the pharmacy,

2:27:12 which is part of Walgreens.

2:27:14 Ready?

2:27:15 Warning. This

2:27:17 drug may cause mental problems or make them worse.

2:27:21 It may also cause bad problems with how you act.

2:27:24 Ideas of killing yourself or murder,

2:27:28 forceful actions,

2:27:29 fury,

2:27:30 anxiety,

2:27:31 and anger have happened with its use.

2:27:34 These problems have happened in people with and without a history of mental or mood problems.

2:27:39 Yeah. That sounds like something I need to try. That doesn't sound good. I think this is this is evidence.

2:27:47 I've never heard this type of disclaimer.

2:27:50 Yeah. That's a good one.

2:27:52 That is That is a good one. You're right. That that is evidence. This drug company should be if there's one example of this happening, well, I'm sure there's some, oh, no, we gave a disclaimer.

2:28:02 Yeah. There must be some liability issues that they've gotten by from legislation

2:28:08 to be selling any of these drugs to the public.

2:28:11 Don't know. Don't vaccination thing. Yeah. It could be. I don't know about that.

2:28:15 Well, I haven't heard about anybody ever getting sued No.

2:28:18 Over some guy taking a pill and then going out and murdering his wife.

2:28:23 Yeah. Well, we we saw this with Chantix or Shampix in Europe.

2:28:29 Yeah.

2:28:31 So what's this guy gonna do? What's our what's our producer gonna do? Is he gonna take He's taking it. He says

2:28:36 he says he's feeling he doesn't he feels really dizzy. He doesn't like it. Oh, and then go back to the phenobarbital. It working fine, wasn't it? Yeah. I don't know. Well, we we wish him well.

2:28:47 I'd go back to my old doctor and get along That's with what I'd do too.

2:28:50 Let's see now. We have These guys what these people are irresponsible.

2:28:55 Yeah.

2:28:56 Yeah. It's it's effed up.

2:28:59 Were we not talking about Vicky Nudelman,

2:29:02 Victoria Newland

2:29:04 in the Balkans?

2:29:06 Yeah?

2:29:08 Where is she now? Where's Victoria? We need a We need we need a jingle. Where's Victoria Newland, Noodleman Kagan?

2:29:15 Well, she visited Montenegro,

2:29:17 July 14 eleventh to fourteenth,

2:29:19 and, looks like we have a color revolution in progress as we speak.

2:29:23 Protesters calling for the prime minister to step down. Yoo hoo. Good work, Vicky.

2:29:29 Wow. Yeah. Vicky. Yeah. You just got all you gotta do is follow her.

2:29:34 The the revolutions follow her. It's amazing. There's gotta be some investment advice you can get from from following her.

2:29:43 Lot of short selling, I'd say. Oh, yeah. Short selling. Puts. Lot

2:29:49 Polish elections today.

2:29:51 It looks like a right wing is going to win.

2:29:55 Portugal.

2:29:57 Now this was did you see the the the Portuguese elections?

2:30:03 No, I missed that. Okay. So I'm,

2:30:06 I'm not I'm I'm hoping I have this right.

2:30:11 But the

2:30:13 what is his name? Silva?

2:30:14 Anibal Cavaco Silva, Portugal's constitutional president,

2:30:18 has refused to appoint a left wing coalition government,

2:30:22 even though it secured an absolute majority in parliament,

2:30:26 and won a mandate to smash the austerity regime.

2:30:31 But he thought it was too risky to let the left block or the communist come close to power.

2:30:39 So now I guess he put together a strange coalition

2:30:44 that is not really representative of what the people voted for because, you know, these people are dangerous. They can't have you know, even though they won some votes, they can't get into the government or there'll be opposition. Let's put it that way.

2:30:56 No. I we need we need some we have people No. I'm looking there. We got we got We have people in the we have people in the

2:31:02 telling us what's going on. Yeah. Exactly.

2:31:06 The Polish election should be interesting though, because that's kind of our main, you know, our main place for

2:31:12 rockets and stuff.

2:31:14 Yeah. And rendition sites. Speaking of rockets, I learned that the Dutch safety board,

2:31:21 and they have admitted this now in a kind of an obscure blog post by one of the people on the committee

2:31:25 in Dutch, acknowledged that they came to their conclusions about MH 17

2:31:31 without

2:31:32 using

2:31:33 radar

2:31:34 data.

2:31:38 Okay.

2:31:39 Which means, you know, there's no discussion. Of course, there isn't because they didn't use that data. There's no discussion

2:31:46 of other aircraft,

2:31:48 of any anything else in the air at the same time.

2:31:52 So instead of discussing that, they just decided, well, we we won't use any radar data.

2:31:57 So they so their whole conclusions is is from the piece from the puzzle Mhmm. Of pieces that they put together in the hangar. It took them two years. Mhmm. And then they see, oh, there's a there's a there's some shrapnel here, so this is how it happened. Mhmm.

2:32:11 Not

2:32:12 used.

2:32:14 No radar It's bullcrap is what you're saying. Yeah. Well, we knew that, but I thought this was an interesting little piece of data that which is now being

2:32:22 reported on. It's never gonna be. Obviously.

2:32:25 Here's one.

2:32:27 Did we bring this up or was this I think this was along with some article you sent me about Hillary. Oh, I know what it was. It was about Chelsea Clinton not being the daughter of Bill,

2:32:39 but being the daughter of

2:32:41 Webster Hubble. Hubble Web.

2:32:43 Web Web Hubble. Webster Hubble. Yeah. Okay. So this guy She looks just like, so it's probably true. So Chelsea was signing books somewhere,

2:32:52 and this guy, Robert Morrow,

2:32:54 went up to her and, asked her some questions. Hi,

2:32:58 Robert. Hi. Hey, Chelsea.

2:33:01 Has your mother ever told you that you're the daughter of Webb Hubbell and not Bill Clinton?

2:33:07 I'm so proud to be my parents' daughter.

2:33:10 Okay. Thank you, sir. Thank you so quick question about this book right here? Sure. You say it's targeted towards

2:33:16 teenage girls? It's targeted actually to kids, girls and boys.

2:33:21 Would you say that Bill Clinton also targets teenage girls except for sexual reasons?

2:33:27 I would say my book is really resonating with kids. I was at the Ann Richards School earlier today, and I'm so grateful that it's resonating resonating to to the the young young girls. Girls. Oh, she's great.

2:33:37 Yeah. She does. She is great. She's got to hand it to her. Handles constantly. Fantastic.

2:33:41 Good word.

2:33:44 Oh, man. I'm guessing, by the way. Yeah. Just just completely That was a setup?

2:33:48 Well, no, that was sure, but it didn't go anywhere, so who cares?

2:33:52 But I'm guessing that, I mean, the web hubble thing makes I'm guessing about Bill and

2:33:57 all his sexual exploits

2:33:59 and the age he was at and the era that he was in and the schools that he went to and the people that he hanged out with. Hanged out or hung out? I don't care.

2:34:11 Had a vasectomy.

2:34:13 Oh.

2:34:13 Probably when he was young. Do you think he has the lesbian look?

2:34:17 He's getting it. Yeah.

2:34:20 Doesn't look good for his age. Well, according to that, to that long piece that that we read together,

2:34:26 he has a like a two inch pecker.

2:34:29 Well, I don't know about that. But

2:34:31 he,

2:34:34 I think I know, because it was very common during that. That was the period in the seventies

2:34:38 that we had the the population bomb.

2:34:41 Ah, yes. Everybody was doing it. Yeah. This was the the era of we're gonna have too many people by the year 2000. We're all gonna be dead. It was the it was the climate

2:34:50 change scare of the moment. The same people. Same people. And we're gonna go all the population bomb Erdmann over here at Stanford or wherever. I think it's still there. They were all gonna die. We got too many people. We should all, you know, get a a

2:35:04 stop breeding for God's sake. And I think I would guess

2:35:08 that in that era that Clinton would be that kind of guy.

2:35:12 He had all the earmarks of a guy who would do that. I I know people who have done it from that era,

2:35:17 and, they, you know, they ended up regretting it. And you never considered this, did you? God, no.

2:35:25 Have I have two stories from your neck of the woods.

2:35:28 By the way, that's the topic of what I just discussed. There's something you'll never hear even discussed,

2:35:34 and it's not offensive.

2:35:35 No. It's just No one would even discuss something like this on any radio show other than ours.

2:35:40 And we're not even a radio show. We're just a we're just podcast.

2:35:44 Podcast. For crying out loud, we're podcast.

2:35:47 Podcast. Okay. Two stories from your neck of the woods. One well, not your neck of the woods, actually. That is wrong. This is from,

2:35:55 Washington State.

2:35:59 So that's up in Mimi's neck of the woods. With a motive for justice, transparency,

2:36:03 and closure, the University of Washington's Center for Justice wanted to take on the CIA.

2:36:09 Earlier this month, it sued the agency, hoping to get documents connected to the American government's involvement in El Salvador's civil war three decades ago.

2:36:18 For years, the center has researched a series of massacres

2:36:21 believed to have been committed by the El Salvadoran military.

2:36:24 And for years, requests for information from the CIA have been rebuffed for varying reasons.

2:36:30 Fast forward to late last week. In a statement released today, the Center for Human Rights says it was broken into by unknown parties. Whoops. Director doctor Angelina Godoy says her computer and a hard drive with almost all of the center's research was stolen. The center said it's concerned because sensitive personal details were taken,

2:36:50 but also because it believes it is possible this was an act of retaliation for its work.

2:36:55 The statement says there was no forced entry, and doctor Goodoy's office was the only one targeted.

2:37:01 Must be part of that reorg John Brennan's doing.

2:37:05 Gee. Gee, who I wonder who could have wanted to take that.

2:37:10 Seems so unlikely the CIA would do that themselves.

2:37:14 So I have

2:37:17 an official three by three report. No. Oh, hold on a second. We cannot do the three by three

2:37:22 without the official three by three jingle. Are you ready to go? I'd say, Crackpot. George C. Dvorak,

2:37:32 it.

2:37:47 So I don't know if CBS has somebody in the back office in this some suit

2:37:53 or something, but CBS,

2:37:55 on the main news, the main news,

2:37:57 after all these reports about guns

2:38:00 Uh-huh.

2:38:01 They

2:38:03 opened a spot. I don't know how you can look at this. This the weird gun editorial on CBS. They opened a spot in the middle of the news hour or the news half hour in this network. Yeah. And they gave this guy this huge moment to talk and promote using

2:38:20 control laws. His daughter, Allison, and fellow journalist, Adam Ward, were shot to death in the summer. Tonight, another view from a gun rights organization.

2:38:32 I'm Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America,

2:38:36 where we have advocated,

2:38:37 really, ever since Columbine,

2:38:40 that the problem of mass murder in this country

2:38:43 is the gun free zone. We have a federal law that says that schools must be gun free zones unless a state goes through an enormous amount of trouble. All but two of the mass murders in our country have occurred in gun free zones.

2:38:59 Even while our violent crime rate has been going down, more Americans are owning guns,

2:39:05 but not in gun free zones. An armed citizen, a good guy with a gun, is the way you stop a crime. When there's a bad guy with a gun, he stops when a good guy with a gun is around.

2:39:17 And until we kind of deal with that basic fact and we insist on disarming good guys,

2:39:24 we're gonna give the advantage to bad guys. Gun owners of America has supported a measure

2:39:30 that's been in the congress for several terms now that would treat your concealed carry permit

2:39:37 the same way as your driver's license is. If you have it in one jurisdiction, then it's gonna be good anywhere in the country.

2:39:45 The view of Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America.

2:39:49 I

2:39:50 think that's where it's going.

2:39:53 I think so too, but I just found this to be very peculiar. They stopped the show

2:39:58 for all practical purposes and put I I think it has to do with equal time bullcrap,

2:40:04 someone's Yeah. But there's no real loss about that. I know. This had to be some suit, some gun guy at CBS

2:40:10 who's got enough enough cojones that he said, look, if you're gonna keep doing these stories, let's bring this guy on and give him an editorial spot. You've never seen that before.

2:40:21 No. I don't think I've ever I've heard the driver's license meme, which I like a lot. No. No. I'm talking about the idea. I understand. I understand. No. Yeah. But I've never seen that come out on a national show like this. And yak yak yak. Just one camera shooting nobody around. No.

2:40:35 No. Very strange. I heard Yeah. No. I like the driver's license idea too.

2:40:39 Uber driver the other day, I should have recorded it, but most of them have pretty, like, no good recently.

2:40:46 He said, you know, talking about driving. He said, yeah, I'm not gonna drive New Year's Eve this year. So why not? Well, at midnight, the open carry

2:40:55 law goes into effect.

2:40:57 He says people be walking around with with holsters with

2:41:01 handguns strapped to their, belt. Oh, that's in Texas? Yeah. Yep.

2:41:07 Hey, you know what I'm gonna be doing?

2:41:09 Walking around with a gun. Hell, yeah. I'm I'm carrying the judge around. Just go out to the grocery store,

2:41:14 you know, just walk around. Hey, everybody. How you doing? You can call me Tex.

2:41:19 Tex. Yeah. You should be called Tex.

2:41:22 Kid Curry.

2:41:23 Kid Curry. Okay. Here's a trend that I think people should Is this still the three by three?

2:41:28 No. Okay. No. I'm bored three by three. Well, no. Experiment

2:41:33 by JCB.

2:41:34 Comparing

2:41:35 stories for ABCs

2:41:37 and BSN, NBC.

2:41:40 The never ending story.

2:41:43 It was one of the networks that reported, even though it's really a local story. Okay. But I it's a California story, and I wanna just bring play the story because this is a major trend that we'll all be hearing about.

2:41:57 And, right now, it's just happening in a school over here in, San Rafael. Mhmm. But this is a I mean, everyone in our family has these these these desks.

2:42:06 So let's play the standard desks clip. I have a standing desk myself.

2:42:12 Yes. It's a family It's an idea that some swear by in the office. I'm doing it right now. But can it work in the classroom? Our Joe Fryer takes us to a school that's solving the age old problem of getting kids to sit still and pay attention by not having them sit at all.

2:42:28 Are you ready to write?

2:42:30 Students at Valecito Elementary in Northern California are taking a stand. I I really like it. Spending

2:42:37 much of the day on their feet at new standing

2:42:40 desks.

2:42:41 Just focus better when I'm standing. Thumbs up if you agree. Teachers like Amanda Gray say they're seeing a big difference. I noticed that I can hold their attention for longer because I feel like their brains and their bodies

2:42:54 are active and more awake. For students, it's like a lesson in Newton's first law. It's like a body at rest stays at rest. Body potty

2:43:03 in motion After stays in

2:43:06 testing the idea in a few classrooms last year, the school dumped all of its old fashioned desks, replacing them with taller models.

2:43:13 Even the principal has one. If someone walks in and says, well, kids shouldn't be standing all day, what do you say to that? We actually don't have them standing all day. Students can take a seat whenever they're feeling tired, and every desk has a fidget bar to keep kids moving. It releases your energy, and it's not having you hunched over. You're sitting tall. Obviously Researcher James Levine says getting kids to move more during the school day actually helps them in the classroom.

2:43:41 Their schools are better. Their retention is better. Their specific skill development is better. The biggest challenge, cost. Parents in Ballastido raised a $110,000

2:43:51 for new desks with help from Juliet Starrett's organization,

2:43:55 Stand Up Kids. Our mission is to get these desks into as many public schools as we can in the next ten years, hopefully all of them. Standing desks are gradually popping up in classrooms and offices around the country. And I think for Christmas, people should start asking for them. A growing movement

2:44:13 for more movement.

2:44:15 Jill Fryer, NBC News, San Rafael, California. Alright.

2:44:20 Now I love that package, package, by the way. Yeah. It's yeah. I heard say piece together the little kids saying, oh, me, me, me. And then it's the thumbs up, thumbs up that they threw in your gratuitous stuff, they moved it. That package, even though it was I'm doing a story about this trend, but that package is something to be studied

2:44:39 by wannabe broadcasters.

2:44:42 It's just slick. It was very slick.

2:44:45 What is the point now? Does this make a difference? I hear that it doesn't make a difference. I don't think it makes much of a difference, but, you know, it gets you off your butt. I like it. I'd I always stand during the show.

2:44:56 Yeah. You're the show you're a broadcast standard, which is No.

2:45:00 It's not it's not rare with top 40 DJs.

2:45:03 Well, they're all hyped up. Yeah. That's why exactly. That's that's why you do it because, you know, you gotta be able to project really well. Hey, kid Curry, everybody right here. Hot rocking z one hundred.

2:45:13 Call it one hundred wins. WHTZ.

2:45:15 I

2:45:18 should have followed it up with an explosion.

2:45:21 There you go. The flamethrower.

2:45:23 I was waiting. I

2:45:26 I had to Yeah. I know people that do it. They stand up and

2:45:32 I don't know, some people have tall chairs. Podcasters

2:45:34 do it standing up, John.

2:45:38 But for the most part, most broadcasters that I know don't do it. Don't do it.

2:45:44 Okay.

2:45:45 I have one last thing. It's a shorty,

2:45:48 and that'll all be this is a breaking news, everybody. Breaking news. Former IRS official Lois Lerner will not face criminal charges for allegedly targeting Tea Party groups. The justice department ended a two year probe today and said that it found no evidence that anyone at the IRS acted out of political motives. Hi. Warner once headed the unit that handles applications for tax exempt status. There you go. That's neatly wrapped up.

2:46:14 Yep. Jesus.

2:46:17 When are gonna start arresting people in in these governments?

2:46:20 I like that Iceland sentenced

2:46:22 a

2:46:23 crapload of bankers.

2:46:25 Let's see. Who caused their

2:46:28 who caused their crash. Let me see how Oh, yeah. They Twenty twenty six bankers

2:46:33 Good. Sent to prison.

2:46:35 Absolutely

2:46:36 good. Yeah. Well, we can't do any of that.

2:46:39 No. No. Alright, John. I I I think I need to start resting up and getting ready for the the big celebration.

2:46:47 The gun carrying? No. Our eighth anniversary, dude. Oh, yes.

2:46:52 It's on Thursday. It is. Well, that's our celebration. The tomorrow,

2:46:57 of course, is

2:46:58 the actual date actual date.

2:47:01 Celebrate eight great years, everybody. Eight great. How do you do this? How do you do a show of this caliber

2:47:08 twice a week

2:47:09 for eight years and and manage to keep it so people really like it, and they we get a bigger our audience is growing. Here's the number one Is it done? I don't know. But here's the number one thing. I I'm I just don't want us to end like Siskel and Ebert.

2:47:25 That didn't end really nicely, did it?

2:47:28 Well, Cisco and Ebert is not just is different. It's a video show. No. I understand. But, you know, they were a team.

2:47:34 Yeah. Well, there's a lot of teams that come and go. They did it for, like, twenty years or so. They were on I know. And then, you know, one guy, he's got One guy died cancer.

2:47:42 Well, they die. They're old. Yeah. Exactly. I don't wanna die. I don't wanna get old. I met both those guys.

2:47:49 No.

2:47:50 Cisco really wasn't much of a had sketchy

2:47:54 his relationship to Ebert.

2:47:56 Coming to you from FEMA region six in the Crackpot condo and the leaky condo in Downtown Austin, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Kid Curry.

2:48:05 And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's not leaky

2:48:08 yet,

2:48:09 I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday to celebrate eight great years right here on No Agenda.

2:48:16 Remember us, dvorak.org/na.

2:48:32 When the ocean rises, just this one, this whole area will be underwater.

2:48:38 That's what you gotta get your heads around. And nine hours and fifteen minutes into the hearing, missus Clinton was asked her two hundred and eighteenth question. It was about where she was the night of the attacks. Who else was at your home? Were you alone?

2:48:52 I was alone, yes. The whole night?

2:48:55 Well, yes, the whole night.

2:48:59 Well, don't know why that's funny. I mean, you have any in person briefings? I don't find it funny at all.

2:49:06 I'm sorry, A little note of levity at 07:15.

2:49:29 That is the land of unconfirmed videos. We came, we saw, and he died.

2:50:17 Come on. Come on.

2:50:20 You're not you're not you're not gonna you're not you're

2:50:23 not gonna get a good response from me by interrupting me like this.

2:50:27 They I'm sorry.

2:50:30 No. I'm

2:50:31 sorry.