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0:00 Uh, nuts.

0:01 Adam Curry, John C. Devorah.

0:03 It's Thursday, April 23rd, 2026.

0:06 This is your award-winning Give a Nation Media Assassination episode 1862.

0:09 This is no agenda.

0:12 Minding the Minds.

0:15 And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6.

0:20 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

0:22 And from Refinery Row in Northern California, where we're all asking Donald Trump,

0:27 Daddy, are we there yet?

0:29 I'm John C. Dvorak.

0:30 It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.

0:34 So, I don't want to be the one to complain because I am not the worst wounded on this show.

0:41 But I have the cedar fever.

0:44 You have the what?

0:47 The cedar fever.

0:48 Oh, cedar.

0:49 Oh, this is where every year this happens.

0:52 I thought you had the HIPAA filter, the HIPAA filter.

0:55 Oh, it's everywhere.

0:57 And during the bat signaling caught in my throat and during this opening, it caught my, and it's, ah.

1:03 And the only cure for a fever is more cowbell.

1:07 It's just so bad.

1:09 Anyway, I'll get through it.

1:11 How are you, man?

1:12 We got a little scare.

1:13 A scare.

1:14 We were afeared for you.

1:15 I had to go into the hospital for a certain checkup and then they outfitted me with a, with one of these, with a bunch of gear.

1:24 I got strapped.

1:26 He's strapped, everybody.

1:28 What are you strapped with?

1:29 What are you strapped with?

1:29 You got a 9mm?

1:31 I got some uncomfortable device on and some sort of a pad, some weird sticker.

1:41 It looks like a decal that collects data 24-7 for two weeks.

1:49 And does this connect it to an iPhone?

1:51 Please tell me it is.

1:52 Yeah.

1:55 To Jay's iPhone?

1:57 Whose iPhone are you using?

1:57 No, no, this is connected.

1:58 I had my phone and they said, there's an app you got to have it because it collects on the phone.

2:06 Wait a minute, you showed them your phone and they went, what is that?

2:08 They said, this phone is old.

2:12 And I said, yeah, it works.

2:14 It works.

2:16 What am I supposed to say?

2:17 And so they gave me a phone.

2:20 Oh, they gave an iPhone?

2:22 No, not an iPhone, some Android.

2:25 So your Android was not even compatible with today's modern technology.

2:31 Wow.

2:32 You know, because here's, I got no information.

2:36 Did you get my text?

2:38 I sent you a text.

2:39 Did you get my text?

2:39 No.

2:40 You didn't get my text.

2:42 It's on your phone.

2:43 On the phone?

2:45 Oh, you should send it to the text system.

2:48 You are confusing.

2:49 You text, you call me from your phone.

2:51 You text me from your phone.

2:53 Now I start using that.

2:54 I'm like, hey, this is John's phone.

2:55 You're in the hospital.

2:57 And then I was like, I might as well not exist.

2:59 Meanwhile, Horowitz is like, oh, yeah, I talked to John.

3:01 Everything's fine.

3:02 Yeah.

3:03 You know, Mimi keeps telling me, stop talking to Horowitz.

3:09 It hurts Adam's feelings.

3:11 It does.

3:12 Well, you know, since I didn't hear back from you, like, whatever.

3:16 I only talked to Horowitz because they had to skip the show because they were doing something.

3:20 And this horrible situation occurred with me and a specific doctor at the hospital who I shooed out.

3:28 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

3:31 Can you talk about it?

3:33 Yeah, I'll talk about it.

3:34 So I had this doctor that was at the top.

3:38 There's a doctor that's in charge of the floor.

3:40 Do you mind if I go back a second?

3:42 Yeah.

3:44 So I heard that you went to the ER.

3:46 This is the information I got.

3:49 Here's how it was conveyed to me.

3:51 What do you mean, ugh?

3:53 Well, I mean, this is going to interrupt my story, but okay.

3:56 Well, I think it flows into your story.

3:58 So, John's in the ER.

4:01 Okay, is he okay?

4:02 Well, yeah, but he's been waiting for hours,

4:07 and I got the impression that you were lying on a gurney in the hallway.

4:10 I don't know.

4:12 Might as well have been, though.

4:16 Okay.

4:17 Because I started pulling the bats.

4:20 So the reason I'm irked about it is because this doctor comes in,

4:23 a small Chinese woman, and says,

4:29 you've got to keep me another day.

4:30 What?

4:31 No, I come in, and I'm in, and I'm out.

4:34 I'm going to get another day.

4:36 And she looked at nothing to determine this.

4:39 So the next day, I'm upstairs, stuck there,

4:43 and she comes in, you've got to keep me another day.

4:47 no so i got this was from a long series of things that i so i got mad at her

4:54 and told her she's not interested in the patients whatsoever and then i said to her

4:59 oh this is very dramatic because brennan was there witnessing this here it comes

5:03 i said you know what you're a lousy doctor

5:07 you have no you have no concern for the patient's needs or desires and then i kept reading you to

5:16 the riot act and so she left no did what wait she didn't say anything she didn't well she kind of

5:23 pushed back a little bit did she huff she should have at least huffed maybe she had a mask on

5:29 oh of course of course of course he's masked all the time always masked and so uh one of the nurses

5:36 comes in and i'm gossiping with her because i do that with the nurses and i said i did what i did

5:42 I told her what I did

5:43 and the nurse says

5:45 you want to file a report

5:47 yes please

5:49 and I took about five beats

5:51 I said yeah

5:52 and so she rushes over to the

5:56 console and says tell me everything

5:58 you know

5:58 it was obvious to me

6:01 that this doctor is a problem doctor

6:04 that was

6:06 my determination

6:07 and so meanwhile then the supervisor

6:09 comes in and grills me

6:11 it makes me tell the story yeah and then she's oh you know we were trying to be for the patient

6:17 you know we've when the nurses when the nurses don't like the doctor that's a problem with that

6:22 doctor and then there is a uh i don't know that by the way i don't know what you just said i'm

6:29 not sure that's true but i'm i because i don't want to you know demean the nurse but it's probably

6:37 true but the um then i got another supervisor comes in so so what i've done was i like an a

6:45 hole that i i can be if you haven't noticed no i uh not at all went through the system you know

6:53 because there are ways you can complain but doing it from the outside in having worked in a

6:58 bureaucracy for eight years doing it from the outside in is not the same as doing it from the

7:03 inside out uh-huh so she's in trouble and and rightly so because she was she just trying to

7:12 up her do you think she gets paid more by keeping you there longer is there incentive well i may i

7:18 concluded the following if you're a medicare patient the money's automatic right so that

7:26 the money's coming they just have they don't have to fight you for the money so you're you're a you're

7:31 a gold mine so medicare patients let's do what what can we do and so i think that all these all

7:38 these systems not just the one i'm here with all these systems across the country are gouging the

7:44 government that's why medicare oh what are we going to do you know it's going it's going broke

7:48 yeah for good reason they're doing everything they can to break it i'm surprised they didn't

7:53 slap you on a vent for another 11 grand let's put let's put this old geezer on a vent we know

8:00 We know that's money in the bank.

8:02 Money in the bank.

8:03 Yeah.

8:04 Wow.

8:04 Hey, can we publish that data that they're collecting?

8:07 Can we make like a real-time JCD graph, health graph?

8:10 Well, we're going to try to get all the records.

8:13 Well, I was concerned, you know.

8:18 If I was concerned and if it was bad enough that it involved you, I would have called you.

8:24 Yeah.

8:25 I only called Horowitz because I had to skip the show.

8:27 I know, but the fact that you didn't call or didn't even answer my text made me feel like it was much worse.

8:34 No, it's okay.

8:34 That it was much worse.

8:35 Because all I got from Jay is, hey, just an FYI, John's at the ER.

8:40 I go, okay.

8:41 I mean, I'm not complaining.

8:44 By the way, the reason I was in the ER, because when they go in there, you get checked in, that's where you have to go.

8:54 I was there forever because there was a fiasco situation, which is another whole story which I won't tell.

9:01 There was some kind of horrible accident that took place?

9:03 No, it was just a logistics thing.

9:06 It was ridiculous.

9:07 Yeah, let me guess.

9:08 A bunch of illegal aliens had priority over you.

9:11 That was my conclusion.

9:13 Well, you know, it's possible.

9:15 Anyway.

9:16 As long as they get their money.

9:17 Hey, you know what?

9:18 You sound good.

9:19 In fact, do you want to, should I just tell you what my text was to you?

9:23 I'm sorry?

9:24 Shall I read you my text?

9:25 Oh, hold on a second.

9:26 Let me turn off the heater.

9:27 That was going to be my next complaint.

9:31 I was just kidding.

9:33 Now I can hear you.

9:34 Okay.

9:34 So here's my text.

9:38 Never let a good text go to waste.

9:44 Hope you're enjoying your stay.

9:46 What a bummer.

9:49 This sucks.

9:49 Don't worry about clips for Thursday.

9:52 I'll have us well covered.

9:53 Just show up and grouse as usual.

9:55 Come on, man.

9:57 That's a great text for somebody who's in the ER.

9:59 Oh, man, you're just like an amateur writer.

10:02 Can't throw anything out.

10:05 Oh, man, I'm glad you're okay.

10:09 You sound great.

10:10 You sound fantastic.

10:11 Yeah, about an hour from now, I'll be grasping.

10:14 Well, between the two of us, man, I've had this fever.

10:17 You can literally feel the pollen sticking in your throat.

10:22 It's nuts.

10:23 Yeah, you say this every year.

10:25 Well, I had it in January, and now it's come back.

10:28 So this is now four months.

10:29 Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

10:30 No, but everyone has it.

10:32 Everyone has scratchy eyes.

10:34 Who knows?

10:35 It's probably the chemtrails.

10:37 You got the HEPA going?

10:39 I got the HEPA going.

10:40 I got everything going.

10:41 What really seems to work...

10:43 Oh, Manuka Gold.

10:45 The Manuka Gold honey?

10:48 Yeah.

10:49 So I had, along with this, I had really pain in my left side,

10:54 and it kind of went to my back.

10:55 And it was muscle pain, muscle spasm.

10:59 This is old guy talk.

11:01 So Patina says, hey, we got some of that Manuka Gold pain relief.

11:06 So I opened the thing.

11:09 I was expecting honey goo.

11:11 No, it's like a balm, you know, a gelatin,

11:18 a soft gelatin balm and I rub that and within two minutes the pain is gone I was blown away by that

11:27 that stuff is magic I can hear Cal from Lavender Blossoms going hey my stuff is bitter but I was

11:35 blown away by the Manuka Gold Pain Relief not a sponsor what's in it oh well CBD to start with

11:43 I don't have it I don't have it here but it has a whole list of ingredients you know it's all

11:47 natural stuff mint and this and that and it smells great and it also doesn't it it's not like you

11:54 have honey sticking to you it the skin absorbs it and it's gone you know so it's not not like

12:00 it's going to rub off if you go lay in bed or something like that it's good stuff so there's

12:05 a tip so i figured uh i do a little dive in the archives to start us off today because we both

12:12 have to and by the way i'm more than prepared with clips you're oh excuse me i was just no i'm

12:18 just saying you made it sound like i couldn't do clips you know i have backup people and i want to

12:23 thank them but my wife does some stuff for me i do my own too by the way but steve jones loaded me up

12:29 i know he did i know he did yeah but you know you don't have to say like by the way like i don't

12:34 like i think well by the way like you're an invalid or something no i just i just saying

12:38 that so I make sure to get my clips in because you've already like you know said that you're

12:43 going to cover my clips and I just grouse for the show and I just wanted to back you off on that

12:48 well I was not intending to override your clips because as you know I see your clips when they

12:55 come in and I thought wow Steve got a lot of good clips for John so don't worry don't worry

13:03 you can play all your clips

13:06 it's fine because that's what you said

13:08 you little spoiled brat

13:09 but I was going to start us off

13:12 with something to start you into your clips

13:15 by going back

13:17 15

13:18 12

13:19 9 and 6 years

13:22 into the no agenda archive

13:24 because sometimes

13:26 we've just been right

13:28 for years

13:33 We've talked about these jabronis, the SPLC, and I think it was inconclusive.

13:39 The Southern Poverty Law Center.

13:42 Yeah, you really have a distrust.

13:44 Yeah, I got a real distrust for these guys.

13:47 What do you know about the Southern Poverty?

13:49 I mean, what kind of name is that?

13:50 It's a great name, actually, I should say, as a New World Order speak.

13:54 Southern Poverty Law Center.

13:57 Is poverty like for poor people, like it serves poor of the South?

14:02 Let's just review who they are for a moment.

14:04 The Southern Poverty Law Center is a group who are always referenced, not just by media, but also by politicians as tracking the evil that exists in America.

14:19 Evil, primarily hate groups, white supremacists, racists.

14:27 And I've always felt very uneasy about the Southern Poverty Law Center.

14:32 They are the go-to guys.

14:34 You know what I believe is probably going on here?

14:36 Scam.

14:37 Well, that's a word I very rarely use.

14:41 But I think it's something like you get with the Rainbow Coalition or that thing Sharpton does.

14:48 You want to get off our list?

14:51 When's our donation coming in?

14:53 You get the Southern Poverty Law Center.

14:56 yeah yeah you want to be a hate group or you want to help us yeah hate hate or help

15:01 hate or help people because obviously if you give us money you're not a hate group we can

15:05 easily take you off the list uh this is about the southern poverty law center who we have been

15:09 tracking for a decade until it became really popular and we're pretty much one of the few

15:14 saying wow look at these guys they got four five hundred million dollars in this huge endowment and

15:20 And they build up hate lists and they just put in.

15:23 Yeah, they became a juggernaut for fundraising.

15:26 Well, and not only that, but they are at the center, at the center of all these fact-check networks.

15:33 So if you want to know if a statement is true, then you go to the fact-check, I think it's the national, the international fact-check network,

15:45 Which always, all the networks, all the websites, all the news providers all say that they use the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, as one of their guiding beacons of light in who is hateful, who is a racist, who's on the list, who's not on the list.

16:05 Two weeks ago, employees complaining of toxic workplace, only old white men running the show.

16:14 Everything that they accuse others of, the Southern Poverty Law Center, they have been guilty of themselves, apparently, for a long time.

16:23 Oh, there it is.

16:27 Yeah, we never liked these guys.

16:30 No, it was so obvious to us that this is bull crap.

16:35 we have four clips all right first i got just a simple clip which is the splc fraud charges

16:42 because they've been charged with this i'm going to tell you what these clips are about

16:46 they've been charged with fraud because they're sponsoring these hate groups and then then then

16:52 uh in fact let me not only tell you what the what this is about let me tell you my thoughts on it

16:57 they not only uh they go after these hate groups but they to make it so they can they can fundraise

17:05 against the hate groups. It turns out, as these clips will provide, they have been financing the

17:12 hate groups. And in fact, that hate group situation, that great meetup, the very good

17:20 people on both sides hoax that got Biden to run for office was financed by the Southern Poverty

17:26 Law Center. They gave them the money to do that protest. And while everybody's up in arms about

17:32 this and i think it is disgusting i have to say the following i think this is marketing genius

17:39 you know while i was looking for those clips uh in fact i probably have it still in the raw

17:46 you said i've been thinking about this for a long time we should get in on this game is what you

17:51 literally said this is this is a great gambit these guys know what they're doing it's like a

17:57 Marketing taken to the max, although the way they did it, I guess because they did it over, you know, there was some state, there was some fraudulent stuff going over state lines.

18:06 There was money laundering.

18:07 They overcompensated and got themselves in a pickle.

18:11 And I'm glad they did.

18:13 I don't like these guys.

18:14 They're phonies, obviously phonies.

18:16 By what happened?

18:17 This is play SPLC fraud charges.

18:19 The Justice Department announced fraud charges against the Southern Poverty Law Center over its nonprofit investigations into extremist groups.

18:27 CBS News Justice Reporter Jake Rosen has the details.

18:30 A federal grand jury in Alabama indicted the Southern Poverty Law Center

18:35 on 11 counts of wire and bank fraud-related charges on Tuesday, the Justice Department announced,

18:39 accusing the group of paying members of extremist organizations as part of its efforts to investigate them

18:45 without disclosing the practice to donors or banks.

18:47 The SPLC has denied the allegations.

18:50 Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said at a news conference announcing the charges

18:54 that the splc is quote a non-profit entity that purports to fight white supremacy and racial

18:59 hatred by reporting on extremist groups and conducting research to inform law enforcement

19:03 groups with the goal of dismantling but quote the splc was not dismantling these groups it was

19:09 instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose by paying sources to stoke racial hatred

19:14 you know i have the indictment in front of me if i just can go through a few things before we

19:18 play your next clips yeah this is i mean it reads better than any report so they had uh

19:25 fictitious entities these uh front companies with names like rare books warehouse tech writers group

19:32 northwest technologies fox photography and my favorite the center investigative agency

19:38 yeah literally cia cute it's very that's a little nod that's what you do that's what you do

19:45 uh so the the nazis this is the national alliance member he was on the payroll for 20 years

19:53 and where they went wrong with this is uh one of these guys broke into a violent extremist

20:01 group's headquarters stole 25 boxes of documents and one of the high-level splc employees

20:08 coordinated the theft knew the documents were stolen uh went back returned the originals

20:15 got in again and then published a hate watch article i mean these people are

20:20 completely they had no you're out of control no scruples the imperial wizard

20:24 of the united states clans of america on their payroll um let's see the former chairman of the

20:34 national alliance was on the payroll now what is interesting is that the bank that they use

20:41 actually caught them in 2020

20:42 and they investigated these shell accounts,

20:45 the SPLC president and board chair wrote a letter

20:48 admitting that the accounts were open for SPLC operations.

20:52 Instead of swatch stopping,

20:54 they switched and started using ACH payments

20:57 with like Rare Books 050 and IP Research Con 050.

21:04 And then they would load the money onto gift cards.

21:09 Oh, money laundering.

21:11 Yeah, of course that's money laundering.

21:12 And I think Besant is a part of this

21:17 because he has been doing a lot of looking at the financial networks.

21:22 Forensics.

21:23 Yes.

21:23 So they were so, what is the term I'm looking for?

21:30 You know, they didn't care.

21:33 No, this is what happens.

21:36 They got sloppy.

21:36 Yeah, when the bank doesn't do anything

21:39 and nobody seems to care, especially during the four years of Biden.

21:43 It just gets worse and worse, but we spotted it early on.

21:46 I mean, and I think the point you made when you had that earliest of clips

21:51 where you say Southern poverty loss, what has it got to do with poverty?

21:56 It's like they've been going after, they got their reputation by going after one hate group

22:00 some years back, that's how they got their start.

22:03 And they made a business out of that.

22:05 They get nothing to do with Southern poverty.

22:08 They're not doing anything for the poor.

22:10 It's like Patriot Act.

22:11 It's the obvious opposite.

22:13 Yeah, there's nothing patriotic about it.

22:15 No, exactly.

22:16 And I'm so happy that this is happening.

22:19 This has been 15 years of the show.

22:22 We've always been grousing about these guys.

22:24 And I had completely forgotten they are at the center of the fact check list.

22:29 That's why there's almost no M5M coverage of this.

22:33 Almost none.

22:34 Because they were all using SPLC.

22:37 Oh, SPLC says that we have a comment from SPLC or Southern Poverty Law Center.

22:41 They've all been seen as a resource rather than a target of an investigation.

22:46 Yeah, it's like an authoritative resource.

22:50 If they say there was Nazis in Charlottesville, then there was Nazis in Charlottesville.

22:55 Yeah, unbelievable.

22:59 So this I got three and this is one series of clips from NPR.

23:04 This is the DOJ.

23:05 this is somewhat some analysis is pretty good. For decades, the Southern Poverty Law Center has

23:10 been known for tracking hate groups. On Tuesday, the Justice Department announced federal criminal

23:14 charges against the nonprofit in connection with its use of paid informants to infiltrate extremist

23:20 groups. NPR Justice Correspondent Ryan Lucas is covering this, and he's with us now in our

23:24 studios. Good morning. Good morning. Before we get to the charges, would you just quickly remind us

23:28 of what the Southern Poverty Law Center does? So the Southern Poverty Law Center is also known

23:33 is the SPLC. It's a 55-year-old civil rights organization. It has a storied history. It's

23:38 based in Montgomery, Alabama. It started out as a law center doing a lot of civil rights work,

23:42 trying to help end the vestiges of the Jim Crow era in the South. And its work later expanded to

23:47 monitoring white supremacist groups, hate groups, including the KKK, and extremist groups more

23:53 broadly. What is the administration saying they did that they say is illegal? Well, look, there

23:58 are 11 counts in this indictment against the SPLC, including wire fraud, false statements to a bank,

24:03 and conspiracy to commit money laundering. And what the indictment alleges is that the SPLC

24:07 defrauded its donors by telling them that the group was working to dismantle extremist groups,

24:12 but was in fact using donated money, the DOJ says, to fund extremist groups. Court papers say that

24:17 between 2014 and 2023, the SPLC paid around $3 million in total to informants affiliated with

24:25 several hate groups. That includes the KKK. It says the SPLC set up bank accounts in the names

24:30 of fictitious entities to pay these informants, the idea being to hide that the money was coming

24:34 from the Southern Poverty Law Center. But the indictment says that in setting up these accounts,

24:38 the SPLC was making false statements to the bank. Can I just play one of their donation ads from the

24:45 SPLC? This is from 11 years ago. I'm Steve Centuria, and I have been a supporter of the Southern

24:52 Poverty Law Center for at least 20 years. It's a fantastic organization that... These are all

24:57 Mixed couples, black woman, white man.

24:59 I think that anyone and everyone that is concerned with justice in this country should do what they can to support.

25:08 It's so amazing to be able to use law to actually achieve justice for people.

25:15 I've often said that Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center stand between civilization and barbarism.

25:23 and I think it's the most unique organization in America.

25:28 I talk to my friends who are still teachers

25:30 about what they can do in their classrooms.

25:32 Some of them do know about teaching tolerance, others don't,

25:35 so I intend to spread the word even more.

25:38 As far as I'm concerned, this is the premier organization

25:40 to deal with the rights of people who need help

25:44 and need someone to go to bat for them in the legal system.

25:47 This is the outfit that sued the Klan and put them out of business.

25:52 I just couldn't imagine what these guys do on a day-to-day basis.

25:55 It's quite touching.

25:57 My philosophy is if you don't want to be in the trenches,

26:00 find the best person you can who is and support them.

26:04 If it takes 10 years and all kinds of talent to prosecute someone,

26:08 your group's willing to do it.

26:10 Fight hate, teach intolerance, make sure we seek justice.

26:14 I want to stand with Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center.

26:18 When I heard about the Southern Poverty Law Center,

26:20 I said, oh, my, that's another organization that I must support.

26:24 I said, this is a good place for me to continue to give what little I have and to spread the word as long as I do.

26:30 Yes. And I would like to remind everybody, the No Agenda show is a value for value podcast.

26:36 No tricks, no gimmicks, no ads, no levels, no subscriptions.

26:40 You can support us at NoAgendaDonations.com.

26:43 Yeah. So back to the NPR.

26:48 Now, NPR, if you haven't noticed on the first part of it, they are doing the reporting from the perspective of a skeptic.

26:56 They think it's the administration.

26:59 Of course.

26:59 This could be alleged, alleged, alleged.

27:02 Yeah.

27:02 And this is, you know, they make it sound like maybe this, they can't quite get over the top with it.

27:07 I mean, I think they'd like to, but they're still supporting the Southern Poverty Law Center at NPR.

27:13 It's pretty obvious that they're disappointed that this came to light.

27:18 So how has the SPLC responded to this?

27:21 Well, the group put out a video statement before the charges were announced saying that the SPLC was under federal investigation.

27:26 And in that video, the nonprofit CEO, Brian Fair, defended the payments made to informants.

27:32 He says these people risk their lives to infiltrate extremist groups and provide information on their activities.

27:37 It was done to protect SPLC staff to gather intelligence on violent threats.

27:41 He said that information was shared with local and federal law enforcement, including the FBI.

27:45 And he said that information, no doubt, saved lives.

27:49 He also said the SPLC will defend its work.

27:51 We will not be intimidated into silence or contrition, and we will not abandon our mission or the communities we serve.

28:00 Now, Fair also argued in that video that the SPLC is being targeted for political reasons.

28:05 Yeah, no, of course, of course, the mainstream, they have to defend them because all of their allegations have always been, it's almost like, well, it was in the New York Times.

28:21 Well, the Southern Department of Law Center said it, so it's got to be right.

28:24 That's what it is.

28:26 So, yeah, and I don't think they're embarrassed about anything.

28:30 They're bummed.

28:30 Oh, man, got to find a new guy to do this for us.

28:35 yeah that's probably pretty uh pretty uh accurate yeah here the rest of this apologia

28:46 well and we have seen the justice department under this administration go after president

28:50 trump's critics often at his explicit direction so what about fair's argument that this indictment

28:56 is political well look acting attorney general todd blanche delivered this news at a press

29:00 conference yesterday he was asked about concerns about politics in this investigation here's what

29:05 he said. Well, I mean, look, it's free from political. There is nothing political about

29:10 this indictment or this investigation. Now, it is no secret, though, that conservatives have been

29:15 highly critical of the Southern Poverty Law Center for years. They say it unfairly labels

29:20 conservative organizations. One example they point to is an SPLC report in 2024 that described

29:27 Turning Point USA. That's the group, of course, that was started by the right-wing activist

29:30 charlie kirk described it as a case study of the hard right and then after kirk was assassinated

29:36 last year the fbi ended a long-running relationship that it had with the southern poverty law center

29:41 and at the time fbi director kash patel said that the civil rights group had turned into what he

29:47 called a partisan smear machine now this prosecution this case of course is just getting underway so

29:52 we will see how this all plays out in court i love the music there please feel so uh patel

30:00 calls it a smear machine and so what happens to him over the last few days oh before you go there

30:08 because that is absolutely connected first we have to notice that this is now happening

30:15 now that pam bondy is gone and uh blanche is the attorney general can you imagine how this

30:23 would have played out if bondy had announced this oh it would have been pathetic yes exactly

30:29 like uh no you had to go it was perfect timing i just want to play a little bit of uh of blanche

30:38 of what he said in this indictment uh video yeah take it yeah then we'll switch over

30:44 yeah no to the smear machine yeah we'll get to the smear machine good afternoon

30:48 today a few minutes ago in the middle district of alabama a grand jury returned an 11 count

30:56 indictment charging the Southern Poverty Law Center with six counts of wire fraud,

31:01 four counts of bank fraud, and one count of conspiracy to commit money laundering.

31:08 According to the charges in the indictment, the SPLC is a non-profit entity that purports to

31:16 fight white supremacy and racial hatred by reporting on extremist groups and conducting

31:21 research to inform law enforcement groups with the goal of dismantling these groups.

31:26 As the indictment describes, the SPLC was not dismantling these groups. It was instead

31:33 manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose by paying sources to stoke racial hatred.

31:41 The indictment describes this conduct in detail, but one troubling example is that the SPLC was

31:49 paying a member of the leadership group that planned the unite the right protest in charlottesville

31:56 virginia in 2017 that resulted in the death of one person and injured dozens more okay as you said

32:05 at the top of the show top of the hour it would i believe this goes much deeper than than people

32:12 may see at face value what the splc paid that guy to do and probably more people at charlottesville

32:20 was a deliberate attempt to undermine and get rid of trump because as you already said it was the

32:28 complete precursor to this super clip i ran for president in 2020 because of what i saw in

32:36 Charlottesville in August of 2017. Extremists coming out of the woods, carrying torches,

32:46 their veins bulging from their necks, carrying Nazi swastikas and changing the same exact

32:55 anti-Semitic bile that was heard in Germany in the early 30s.

33:00 i made the decision to run for president after charlottesville close your eyes

33:07 and remember what you saw close your eyes neo-nazis neo-nazis white supremacists white

33:14 supremacists and the kkk coming out of the fields with torches lighted trump veins bulging

33:20 chanting the same anti-semitic bile heard across european 30s i spoke to the mom who lost her

33:28 daughter it's a consequence of those neo-nazis and race white supremacists come out of fields

33:35 in america with torches carrying nazi banners that's singing the same sick anti-semitic

33:43 bile song in germany in the 30s 30s and when her daughter was killed nazis they fresh went to the

33:51 then president trump said what do you think he said they're very fine people on both sides very

33:55 I knew then, I knew I had to do something.

33:59 And that's how I decided to run.

34:01 Because democracy was literally at stake.

34:03 And then he made, he evidenced everything that we thought.

34:10 Every other time the Ku Klux Klan has been involved, they've wore hoods so they're not identified.

34:16 Under his presidency, they came out of those woods with no hoods.

34:21 Charlottesville is also home to a defining moment

34:24 for this nation in the last few years.

34:26 Remember this one?

34:27 It was there in August of 2017

34:34 we saw Klansmen and white supremacists

34:36 and neo-Nazis come out in the open.

34:38 And that's when we heard the words

34:40 of the President of the United States

34:41 that stunned the world

34:43 and shocked the conscience of this nation.

34:45 He said there were, quote,

34:48 some very fine people on both sides.

34:51 Very fine people on both sides.

34:54 We can't forget what happened in Charlottesville.

34:56 Even more important, we have to remember who we are.

35:01 This is America.

35:03 Now, you know, it's easy to forget because we've been inundated with this messaging for over a decade.

35:11 But the Trump Nazi, oh, he's got Mein Kampf next to his bed.

35:16 This was all coordinated from SPLC and whoever else is affiliated with them,

35:22 which is, oh, I don't know, NPR, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC.

35:29 It got so bad that we started making jingles.

35:32 Donald loves Nazis.

35:34 Donald loves Nazis.

35:37 CNN say that he's KKK.

35:41 And he shouts a sig hail with it.

35:43 Wow.

35:45 So, of course, this will not stand.

35:47 So we have to bring in the smear machine.

35:50 Yes.

35:53 So we have Kash Patel at the center of a lot of this.

35:57 So we have, all of a sudden, he's got to go because he's a drunk.

36:02 Well, what didn't help is the team at the Olympics where he's guzzling the beer.

36:09 No, that's the whole source of everything.

36:12 Yes.

36:12 Because they got nothing else.

36:14 I have two ways to go. I got one clip of Cash Patel suing, or I have the origin story, which is the woman who wrote the article in The Atlantic was on a Jen Psaki show.

36:27 Hold on. So, the Atlantic article, from what I understand, I think AP retracted a story they had referencing the article.

36:39 It seems like the Atlantic may have gotten a little bit over their skis on what was written here.

36:44 Yes, but they're sticking by it.

36:48 All right. So, why don't we play it?

36:49 Let's start with the origin story.

36:51 This is the Patel origin.

36:53 This is Sarah Fitzpatrick, the writer of this article.

36:59 And listen to, I got two, it's only two clips.

37:02 She's on with Psaki, who is out to get everybody.

37:07 Well, another moment.

37:09 She's out to get ratings.

37:10 Another moment in the sun.

37:11 Joining me now is the reporter who broke that story,

37:14 staff writer for The Atlantic, Sarah Fitzpatrick.

37:16 Let's get into some of the details about this.

37:18 Because Patel's excessive drinking seems to be what is alarming a lot of the sources in here.

37:24 There are multiple anecdotes that refer to that.

37:26 That's understandable.

37:27 They're moving meetings.

37:28 People couldn't wake him.

37:29 What more have you heard about the extent of his drinking habits and how it seems to be affecting his ability to serve as FBI director?

37:37 The key point is that this is happening in places in which it is public.

37:42 There are lots and lots of people around who are seeing it, who are hearing about it, who are learning about it.

37:47 for example we have video of patel chugging a beer to excess on video we've all seen it everybody's

37:55 seen it yes and i and i think that was in the locker room he was on official travel at that

37:59 time there were ongoing threats in the united states at that time so you know it is a very

38:05 very clear pattern that has occurred in multiple locations over a long period of time and it's

38:10 that pattern which is giving everyone pause these are not one-off events this is almost as good as

38:15 saying someone's mentally unstable

38:17 you know it's like I am going

38:19 to analyze this guy

38:21 and because of the way he chugged

38:23 his beer I only saw him chugging

38:25 one bottle of beer. He didn't even chug a whole beer

38:27 he was in the locker room

38:29 most of it went outside of his mouth

38:31 of the first time

38:33 the USA

38:34 the coach of the team of the USA team

38:37 in the Olympics was his buddy

38:39 they're buddies because Patel

38:41 plays hockey. Yes he's a hockey dude. Now if you're a drunk

38:43 you don't play hockey but okay

38:45 so well not very well i wouldn't you play but maybe not very well and so so he was invited

38:51 into the locker room which was you know i would say uh probably uh not not the it wasn't a good

39:00 idea but okay he did it so he goes in there and they're all throwing beer and champagne over each

39:05 other because they won they beat the canadians for the first time like formula one have we ever

39:09 seen formula one with the champagne or anything anybody ever anything they're any basketball

39:15 championship any championship they're they're spraying each other like you know it's very

39:19 kind of oddly sexual and they're just they're shaking the bottle in the wrong spot it's funny

39:26 so uh i found it'd be disgusting yeah but they would they're dumping so he he has a beer and he

39:32 he dumps it in his mouth it's going all over the place not chugging a beer in any common way

39:39 and that this is the video this is the the key to everything if he hadn't done this is when they

39:45 couldn't do anything how much uh how much do you think that uh psaki is a shots girl i think she's

39:51 one of those that gets lost she looks like a jelly jello shot jello shot girl yeah looks the type

39:58 let's go to part two of this stupid clip the opening anecdote of the story was incredibly

40:05 striking for a number of reasons. I mean, because he thought he was locked out of an FBI computer

40:10 system. He grew incredibly paranoid, thought he was going to be fired. It turned out to be a

40:15 technical issue. Talk about that level of paranoia, what that tells you, why it was important to kind

40:21 of lead with that anecdote in the story. The anecdote was just incredibly telling for a

40:25 couple of reasons. One is that it set off such a panic within the FBI and within Washington. It

40:31 off a panic in Congress. The White House was fielding calls. I mean, there was a real lack

40:37 of understanding about who was in charge at a given moment, which as you know, as a former

40:40 member of government, is an incredibly important who is in charge at a given moment. But I also

40:46 think it speaks to character and impulsivity and the ability to be in a stressful situation and

40:54 think about what those next steps are. And I think it is also emblematic of other occasions that we

40:59 have seen that are very public in which information has been shared by the fbi director which was not

41:05 yet that went beyond what the investigation was ready to make public like what and that later had

41:12 to be walked back and in multiple cases that we have seen all very publicly reported the fact that

41:17 this has impacted the investigation this has impacted their ability to uh pursue people that

41:24 were, you know, potentially mass shooters or other things of that nature.

41:28 What?

41:29 Because he's drinking a beer, he can't pursue people who are mass shooters.

41:34 Is that his job?

41:35 That's his job.

41:36 Yes, that's all he does.

41:38 This is a mistake.

41:39 Atlantic made a mistake here.

41:41 Well, they're going to pay for it if it all goes well.

41:45 Now, two more clips.

41:46 One of them is, let's see, Patel defends.

41:50 I got an ABC clip, and then I have another one.

41:54 The Kash Patel sues NBC.

41:56 Let's play the ABC clip.

41:58 Tonight, FBI Director Kash Patel, in front of the cameras, lashing out at allegations

42:03 of excessive drinking and concerns about his job performance.

42:06 I've never been intoxicated on the job, and that is why we filed a $250 million defamation

42:12 lawsuit, and any one of you that wants to participate, bring it on.

42:15 I'll see you in court.

42:16 Patel is suing The Atlantic for $250 million, alleging defamation after it published a story

42:22 claiming members of his security detail had difficulty waking Patel because he was seemingly

42:28 intoxicated. The article also claimed a request for breaching equipment normally used by SWAT

42:33 and hostage rescue teams to quickly gain entry into buildings was made last year because Patel

42:39 had been unreachable behind locked doors. Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch tonight said he had

42:44 not read the article but disputed the reporting the atlantic is standing by its story tonight

42:50 david and calling kash patel's defamation lawsuit meritless didn't isn't this the same playbook they

42:56 did on hegseth he's a drunk yeah he's trying to drunk the drunk thing is very which is ironic

43:03 since trump is the president no drinking no drinking no drinking so so that report seemed

43:09 like a kind of a cookie cutter well listen to nbc do the same report tonight a battle over

43:14 reputation and reporting you want to attack my character come at me bring it on i'll see you in

43:20 court today fbi director kash patel filed a defamation suit seeking a staggering 250 million

43:27 dollars against the atlantic monthly group after its april 17th story citing anonymous sources

43:33 reported that bouts of excessive drinking and erratic behavior have put his job on the line.

43:40 NBC News has not independently verified that reporting.

43:43 The story claims on multiple occasions, the director's security detail had difficulty waking Patel

43:50 and states that a request was made late last year for breaching equipment to gain entry.

43:56 Patel's lawsuit calls that claim pure fantasy

44:00 and states that breaching equipment is provided to all FBI protection details.

44:05 Patel had faced criticism for this moment when he partied with U.S. men's hockey winning Olympic gold.

44:13 He responded that he was extremely humble to celebrate with the boys.

44:18 The director's lawsuit alleges the Atlantic story contains false and obviously fabricated allegations

44:24 and ignored the FBI's response before it was published.

44:28 while the atlantic says we stand by our reporting on kash patel now is it a slander lawsuit do we

44:35 know well it would well print one there's there's two ways of of death there's two kinds of

44:43 definitions one slander and one is liable right one is in print and one is verbal right well i

44:49 know it's the one that's in print yeah and i i hate to say this but i do get these mixed up a lot

44:55 so i think it's liable if it's in print you need a lawsuit let's look it up look it up you got the

45:02 robot well hold on a second what is the question i'm asking here hold on a second what's the

45:05 difference between slander and libel a book of knowledge what is the difference between slander

45:11 and libel

45:12 according to the book of knowledge slander is spoken defamation that damages reputation

45:22 through full statements while libel is written or published defamation in permanent form

45:29 thus it has been written okay so yeah libel easy way to remember slander is speech

45:38 ah s for speech s for speech that's good book of knowledge comes through now what i see here is

45:45 it's this is not just about dismantling the decades-old system of the splc and the media

45:53 and i would just have i don't even know it's the democrats i think it's uniparty whoever they need

46:00 to take down they'll take down as cash patel shows up this is my favorite show i always record sunday

46:06 morning sunday mornings with the money honey maria bartiromo cash patel pops up with this

46:12 little message. Look, I've been with the president nearly since day one on this. As I told you

46:17 earlier, I was the one that led the effort with folks like Trey Gowdy, Johnny Ratcliffe and Devin

46:21 Nunes to expose the corruption that tried to thwart President Trump's first presidential

46:26 election run. And we saw the FISA abuses there. And I lived through it. And the media came at me

46:30 then, too. That just shows you that when you're over the target, you keep pummeling the target

46:34 because the media is going to try and pummel you. We are not going to take this and have not taken

46:39 this laying down. We did already indict former Director Comey, and that's going through the

46:44 judicial process. But we also, at this FBI, even though we uncovered what we uncovered back in the

46:49 House Intel days, I had to come in here and find rooms that they hid from the world. I had to come

46:52 in here and find access on our computer systems in restricted and prohibited case files that they

46:57 purposely put in places for no one to see and find. We have found all this information. We are

47:02 working with our Department of Justice partners, and I am never going to let this go because they

47:06 not only personally attacked the presidency of the United States and President Trump,

47:10 but they tried to thwart our elections and rig the entire system. And that is not something that

47:15 is going to stop. That is not something I'm going to allow on my watch. But you have to remember,

47:20 they built this disease temple over 20 and 30 years. We've got all the evidence. I can announce

47:25 on your show that we've got all the information we need. We're working with our prosecutors,

47:29 the Department of Justice and their attorney general, Todd Blanch. And we are going to be

47:34 making a rest and it's coming and i promise you it's coming soon did he say did he say disease

47:40 temple or diseased temple i like no i like disease temple it's a show title with a d or no d

47:47 what do you mean disease with a d at the end or i thought he said disease no no i don't think

47:54 just i like i like the i don't like it with your disease just disease disease i've written it down

48:01 disease temple and so of course popping up on msnbc there's our boy john brennan oh boy

48:08 one question that's off topic and but it has to do with you uh james call me uh subpoenaed according

48:14 to ms now reporting as part of a grand conspiracy you notice how they have to say ms now ms now is

48:22 they have to think about it still you know it's like a call of course they do you would too

48:27 station call letter change james call me uh it's like you know when you remarry you don't ever

48:32 want to call your wife by her or her wife not a good idea never done that one subpoenaed according

48:37 to ms now reporting as part of a grand conspiracy that's being investigated uh against donald trump

48:44 there is talk that you might be also involved in this what have you heard have you been what

48:50 are you learning um what do you make of this what are you learning i think you mean against

48:55 jim comey goes jim comey myself and others you know have received subpoenas from the department

49:00 of justice yeah about some grand conspiracy or the you know work that we did while we were in

49:07 government and we're going back uh basically uh 10 years or so that sounds so much like we were

49:13 just following orders while we were in government just following orders sir or the you know work

49:18 that we did while we were in government and we're going back uh basically uh 10 years or so so uh

49:26 and david can speak to the the retribution campaign that uh donald trump has been on and

49:31 with this effort to try to harass and to try to ruin people professionally personally financially

49:37 and so on and so it's very very sad that you know our government our department of justice

49:43 is engaged in these types of activities but again i'm going to do what i need to do in order to

49:48 ensure that i am following the law and continuing to say that i i feel as though everything i did

49:54 while i was director of the cia was certainly consistent my authorities and lawful and

49:59 appropriate i would have been derelict my colleagues at that time would have been derelict

50:03 if we didn't expose russian interference in the 2016 election yeah you know i think this is the

50:09 time to play the old brennan clip oh yes uh puts him right in this this old brennan clip

50:17 this is applies to him now yes here it is people are innocent until well alleged to be involved in

50:25 some type of criminal activity that's him until they're alleged to be in some kind of criminal

50:31 activity thank you good callback i forgot about that one and he's very dismayed now he's popping

50:37 another ms now he's now he's very demure he's not happy it just shows that over the past 10 years

50:44 there's been you know failure after failure to try to identify something that you know wrongdoing in

50:50 this case but you know part of this is uh to harass to try to um hurt individuals uh reputationally

50:58 professionally financially same words to keep the story alive as a way to deflect from other

51:03 issues and challenges that they face so again i'm not surprised by this i'm very dismayed and

51:09 disappointed by it i'm also very troubled that we have people in government who seem to be so

51:15 mean-spirited that they try to actually to hurt individuals hurt people their families and others

51:21 that's what government does that's the default what about roger stone what's he talking about

51:26 you know and they claim to be part of the republican party this is not the republican

51:30 party that i work with or worked with you know there are people of integrity who never would

51:35 have thought the department of justice would have fallen as far as it has and so again every day

51:41 when i wake up you know there's something new that i just find just being so surreal and separated

51:46 from the government and the reality that i worked in for 33 plus years oh but again i you know i

51:54 take every day as it comes okay so i got two more shorties here 33 to magic number i know it's in

52:01 there so you know this trump is only doing this just to distract from his horrible dumb mistakes

52:08 um it's it's clear that there's this toxic mix of traits that donald trump has which is he's a

52:15 pathological liar yeah he is incompetent on so many fronts yeah and he's also deeply corrupt

52:20 which i think is now being manifest manifesting itself in terms of the gulf war that's why you

52:25 have these wholly incoherent wholly inconsistent flailing about because first of all again there

52:30 was no real rationale for this war secondly he's trying to figure out what his next move is and he

52:35 doesn't understand exactly how he's going to get himself out of this mess so he's coming after me

52:40 because he doesn't know how to get out of this mess okay and uh and now then what's he worried

52:46 about oh brennan yeah what's he worried about if this is all true brennan's going to the gila team

52:53 this bring that back that was good we can only hope you know one more clip trump said something

52:59 this morning that was very telling when they asked him about uh the brits and keir starmer

53:04 prime minister starmer why he has not joined the this effort can starmer told trump i need to speak

53:10 with my advisor hold on a second he has oh maybe he's talking about the iran war the starmer yeah

53:15 starmer has not joined this effort okay why he has not joined the this effort and starmer told

53:20 trump i need to speak with my advisors and trump said why do you have to speak with your advisors

53:24 it just demonstrates that these are all things that that he does on his own and he's not taking

53:30 the advice and input of others even though you know they all seem to be the sycophants here

53:35 but you know kirsten and others are listening to their intelligence professionals listening to

53:40 their military experts listening to their foreign policy advisors and others to see the right way

53:45 forward but donald trump acts on his gut on his feelings which is not the way to prosecute any

53:51 war especially one that is so needless as this and this is kind of an unfortunate example that

53:57 former cia director brennan brings up because this is exactly the topic of what is happening

54:04 in the uk and i finally put together a couple of clips because it's so entertaining uh starmer

54:11 listening to his advisors let's recap shall we let's just recap uh peter mandelson uh has been

54:19 on the rack or had been on the rack twice twice sacked from the cabinet for the labor cabinet

54:24 blair's cabinet uh first time player a second time i believe gordon brown uh first time uh for

54:32 taking a big mortgage loan from more interest-free i do believe from jeffrey robertson

54:38 the labour party's in-house multi-millionaire uh he bought a house in notting hill didn't tell

54:45 anyone and then had to declare it he had to be sacked it was the scandal uh hilariously called

54:51 notting hill gate gate uh he then went on uh to be restored to the cabinet and then had to be fired

54:58 for trying to get the very rich billionaire Indian Hinduja brothers,

55:04 tycoons there in India, British passports under the counter.

55:08 He had to be sacked for that.

55:11 And then we had, of course, the Epstein affair.

55:16 So all through that.

55:17 Then Starmer admits in the house, when asked by Badenoch,

55:23 Did you know that Peter Mandelson had continued a friendship with the convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein while he was in jail and had stayed at his apartment in Manhattan while he was in jail for child sex offences?

55:37 Did you know that, Prime Minister?

55:39 Yes, I did.

55:40 So he knew that.

55:42 He said that in the House of Commons.

55:45 He knew about this guy's background, but from what we're hearing, he didn't feel it was worth asking the security services whether or not this man had passed the vetting process.

55:57 That is either a lie, or it is the height of incompetence.

56:02 Unbelievable negligence of duty.

56:05 But he always checks with his advisors, doesn't he?

56:09 Brennan, so this is Esther Krakow.

56:11 Brennan's full of it.

56:12 What?

56:14 This is a great story.

56:16 It just gets so deep.

56:18 And it's the connections between what they were.

56:22 Clearly, this Mandelson, I think it might be in this clip or the next one.

56:26 They wanted Mandelson close to Trump as soon as possible because they knew that Mandelson, well, they call him the Prince of Darkness.

56:35 And so they wanted their guy close to Trump as the ambassador in the United States to the UK.

56:43 And Esther Krakow, who's an international affairs commentator, has some background on that.

56:49 So today during Prime Minister's Question Time, Keir Starmer was forced to admit that he actually did know about Peter Mandelson's association with Jeffrey Epstein in a security briefing.

56:59 So he was asked point blank in the dispatch box whether he actually knew during the vetting process which Keir Starmer actually even celebrated Peter Mandelson coming on board before the vetting was complete.

57:10 So he'd already made his mind up that this man was going to be the U.S. ambassador.

57:14 And then in sort of an embarrassing U-turn, he now had to reveal that he did know, but that Peter Mandelson misled him and his team on the extent of the relationship, which, again, is quite baffling because this was easily Google-able information.

57:28 I mean, if a conservative researcher who's about 20 years old can find this on the Internet, then the Labour vetting team should have been able to.

57:35 But it's more about why he even brought him back in the first place.

57:37 Peter Mandelson had to resign twice in disgrace from government back in 1998 and 2001, one of which was because he basically peddled his influence to get an Indian billionaire a British passport.

57:52 So this is not someone who had a clean track record to begin with.

57:55 But it's clear that Labour is so bereft of talent that they had to bring someone whose nickname is, I kid you not, the Prince of Darkness into the Labour sort of high office to try and get anything done.

58:06 Unfortunately, even during Peter Mandelson's brief stint as U.S. ambassador, no one knew his name because basically Nigel Farage was our de facto ambassador.

58:14 And he actually peddled more influence with the Americans than Peter Mandelson did.

58:18 But his association with Jeffrey Epstein has proven to be extremely ugly.

58:21 He called Jeffrey Epstein being released from prison Liberation Day.

58:26 The email exchanges between the two suggest that, you know, Peter Mandelson was happy to use his influence to try and influence bankers bonuses during the financial crisis, the sale of a bank and details about a European bailout, bank bailout.

58:41 This is at a time where, you know, the government were really scrambling to try and reassure people.

58:45 People were losing their jobs left, right and center, their homes.

58:48 And you had basically what was effectively the deputy prime minister at the time using his influence to get a pedophile financier and his friends whatever scraps they could.

58:57 So this is what happens when you resurrect the carcasses of a man like Peter Mandelson's political career.

59:04 And unfortunately, Kiyosama is really going to try hard to ride this wave, but I don't think he'll be successful.

59:09 And then finally, this Ollie Robbins character who was a former senior civil servant, I think he quit or he was sacked, I'm not sure, testifying before the parliamentary committee, which is the nail in the coffin for Starmer and for what I think was a clear gambit to get close to Trump, maybe use some Epstein sap, who knows.

59:32 And I think the president, that's when he said, you know, we should probably release all this Epstein stuff.

59:37 Let's get it all out there.

59:39 Can I ask you this? So let's move on.

59:42 I think throughout January, honestly, my office, the Foreign Secretary's office, were under constant pressure.

59:51 There was an atmosphere of constant chasing.

59:58 Daily phone calls?

1:00:00 I couldn't say for certain daily, but I mean certainly very frequent from private office to private office.

1:00:08 has this been delivered yet um never any interest as far as i recall in weather but only an interest

1:00:15 in when when you say private office to private office you're saying private office of number 10

1:00:20 yes i am i'm afraid i walked into a situation in which um there was already a very very strong

1:00:30 expectation and you will have seen the papers released already under the humble address

1:00:34 that coming from number 10 that he needed to be in post and in america as quickly as humanly

1:00:41 possible the very first formal communication of this to my predecessor from number 10 private

1:00:46 office being that they wanted all this done at pace and mandelson in post before inauguration

1:00:50 so i'm afraid what that translated into um for my team in the foreign office and certainly

1:00:57 the handover briefing i was getting as i arrived at post was what i felt was a generally dismissive

1:01:04 attitude to his vetting clearance the focus was on getting mandelson out to washington quickly

1:01:10 despite this atmosphere an atmosphere of pressure the department completed developed vetting to the

1:01:18 normal high standard because the vetting process is not there to determine fitness for office

1:01:25 or reputational risk it's there to protect national security yeah so there you go wait

1:01:32 So your analysis has it that Mandelson was put over here on purpose to do something to Trump.

1:01:38 Yeah, because he had all the contacts.

1:01:40 And then Trump figured he added two and two, or his team did.

1:01:43 And then they rolled out all the Epstein stuff and got that guy out of here.

1:01:47 Mandelson was the first one to go, if you recall.

1:01:49 Yeah.

1:01:50 He was the first one.

1:01:52 And I'm sure that they staggered the files that way.

1:01:56 Yeah.

1:01:57 Yeah, let's make sure this gets out first.

1:02:01 Let's put this here on page one.

1:02:03 Let's make sure that you can copy-paste and the redactions are taken out.

1:02:08 Yeah, because there's a huge humiliation for the Starmer regime.

1:02:11 The Starmer's on the ropes.

1:02:13 He should be.

1:02:14 Yeah.

1:02:15 That guy's...

1:02:16 You know, we still have to try something here at home.

1:02:19 We already had the New York Times article with, you know, the Situation Room, Sources Say, Bibi Netanyahu sat at the head of the table.

1:02:28 He had the buttons there.

1:02:30 was pushing everything bb was running the meeting trump trump was serving him drinks and uh bb was

1:02:36 doing all this and now we have a new one um this is one of those former cia analysts one of my

1:02:42 favorites you know like they all show up on sean ryan larry johnson here we go oh that's larry

1:02:48 johnson okay let's stop here so we can preface this uh larry johnson is some sort still working

1:02:56 for somebody. Larry Johnson is the worst of the worst. Yes. He's the worst of the worst. Everything

1:03:03 is an anti-Trump. It's all, you know, the walls are closing in. He's still back on that theme

1:03:09 from like 2017. The walls are closing in type of guy. He is full of it. Larry Johnson is the

1:03:17 absolute worst. And this is part of the 25th Amendment ploy, I'm quite convinced. And then

1:03:23 there was a report out that they had an emergency meeting saturday night and apparently well one

1:03:29 report coming out of that meeting at the white house is that trump wanted to use the nuclear

1:03:35 so-called use the nuclear codes and but in general dan kane stood up and said no uh he invoked his

1:03:42 his privilege as as the the head of the military no it was apparently that's not right there are

1:03:49 pictures of kane coming out of that meeting with his head down to the ground oh you know this

1:03:54 there's some very very bizarre things going on in dc yeah i'm pretty sure in every movie i've seen

1:04:02 and we could check with the book of knowledge when the president says it's time for the new codes

1:04:07 that the the generals don't get to overrule that no no they don't so they're desperate here

1:04:17 So this is a bull crap story.

1:04:19 Yes.

1:04:20 Do you think?

1:04:21 Which is what you expect.

1:04:22 Yeah.

1:04:23 And these guys are really hard up for, I don't understand why they can't focus better.

1:04:30 Well, you know, the system is being dismantled.

1:04:34 This is Scattergun.

1:04:35 Yeah, there it is.

1:04:37 Blunderbuss.

1:04:37 Is that a term?

1:04:40 Blunderbuss?

1:04:41 Yeah, Blunderbuss is a type of weapon with a big...

1:04:44 Yeah, with nails.

1:04:44 You put nails in it, don't you?

1:04:46 Blunderbuss.

1:04:46 put nails in blunderbuss yeah all right i got some other stuff but i'm open to your suggestions

1:04:54 well uh we do i got these two clips from the kevin kevin warsh oh yeah i watch confirmation

1:05:02 here this is kind of an aside then we can talk about uh um i got a number of ways to go after

1:05:08 that but let's get this out of the way all right the president's choice to lead the federal reserve

1:05:12 says he would like the agency to do a little less.

1:05:16 Kevin Warsh testified before a Senate committee Tuesday.

1:05:18 He said the Fed could do a better job

1:05:21 of curbing inflation and unemployment

1:05:22 if it was more narrowly focused.

1:05:24 One big question is who decides what the Fed does.

1:05:27 Warsh was nominated by a president

1:05:29 who wants greater control over an independent agency.

1:05:32 NPR's Scott Horsley remains independent and joins us now.

1:05:35 Agency. Agency.

1:05:38 Says who? Yeah, what kind of agency are we talking about?

1:05:41 It's not a government agency.

1:05:42 The Federal Reserve is not a government agency.

1:05:44 Scott, good morning.

1:05:45 Good morning, Steve.

1:05:46 Good morning.

1:05:46 What was the hearing like?

1:05:47 It was quite polarized.

1:05:49 Committee Republicans mostly backed the nominee.

1:05:52 Democrats were uniformly opposed.

1:05:54 One question that came up again and again was whether Walsh would take marching orders from the president, who's been demanding lower interest rates.

1:06:02 Here's GOP Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana.

1:06:04 Are you going to be the president's human sock puppet?

1:06:07 Senator, absolutely not.

1:06:10 are you going to be anybody's human sock pup uh no i'm honored the president nominated for the

1:06:15 position and i'll be an independent actor if confirmed as chairman of the federal reserve

1:06:20 moore says it's not unusual that trump wants lower interest rates he says most presidents do

1:06:25 and war says just because trump is more outspoken than most other presidents that's not a threat to

1:06:30 the fed's independence hold on a second what what outfit is reporting this the npr all right so they

1:06:37 forgot to give you the bit before that that senator you have luckily of course i do here is

1:06:44 pocahontas i try to end the independence of the fed because trump's economic failures are causing

1:06:52 him political problems and he wants the fed to use monetary policies to artificially juice the

1:06:59 economy in the short term and this is his last chance to do that before the november elections

1:07:06 Having a sock puppet in charge of the Fed would also give the president access to the Fed's powerful authorities to enrich himself, his family, and his Wall Street buddies.

1:07:19 It could mean granting special accounts to his family's crypto company or bailouts to his friends on Wall Street if they get into trouble.

1:07:28 In other words, a Fed under Donald Trump's control creates more opportunities for Trump's corruption.

1:07:37 It's interesting they didn't put that bit in.

1:07:39 She was the impetus for the question.

1:07:42 It might be in one of the other clips, but yeah, she's the one who brought up sock puppets.

1:07:46 And they also didn't play it right.

1:07:51 They didn't play.

1:07:52 in fact hold on it's short but this is the full kennedy quote which was better if i was working

1:07:59 at npr i would have chosen okay i would have chosen this one the editing is no good

1:08:05 professor what's the sock puppet uh i heard the reference from senator warren yeah what is it

1:08:14 i'm not sure i know i think it's why you stick your hand in yeah kind of like this yes what's

1:08:21 a human sock puppet getting a human sock puppet um somebody will do what somebody else tells them

1:08:27 to do i think that's what the senator was trying to suggest are you gonna be the president's

1:08:33 human sock puppet so he said what he does you know he shows his hand up the the puppets but

1:08:39 you know that's the clip npr weak it's weak yeah well yeah it is weak i'm surprised they

1:08:49 of war well let's play clip two although we should mention trump did more than speak he's done a lot

1:08:54 of things to try to get more control over the fed so are democrats persuaded that this nominee would

1:08:59 be independent well that was exactly the point that massachusetts democrat elizabeth warren

1:09:03 made she says trump hasn't just expressed an opinion he's gone to great lengths to bend the

1:09:09 central bank to his will the president has repeatedly and illegally attempted to take over

1:09:15 the Fed. Illegally? His bogus attacks on Governor Lisa Cook and Chair Powell were designed to

1:09:22 threaten all the members of the Fed. Now, so far, those efforts by the president have been blocked

1:09:27 in the courts, but Trump's pressure campaign has raised alarms. The Fed is supposed to be

1:09:33 insulated from that kind of pressure so that it can do what's best in the long run for the economy,

1:09:38 not just what's good until the next election. Aside from his independence, this is a chance

1:09:43 to find out what it is that Warsh would want to do with this agency.

1:09:46 How, if at all, does he want to change it?

1:09:48 Yeah, he thinks there is room for lower interest rates,

1:09:50 but also a lower profile for the Fed.

1:09:52 He suggests that policyholders at the central bank

1:09:55 might hold fewer news conferences and give fewer speeches.

1:09:58 And he wants to improve the data that they use

1:10:00 to measure things like inflation.

1:10:02 And he wants the Fed to scale back its investment in government debt.

1:10:06 Oh, man, I hope there's more in this third clip

1:10:10 because I watched a different hearing than NPR did, I guess.

1:10:14 It's the same hearing, it's just NPR has their perspective.

1:10:18 By the way, I should mention that having less press conferences would be a good thing.

1:10:27 The problem they have now is that when the chairman goes and does his press conference,

1:10:32 the stock market is all paying attention for code words and then it makes the market unstable.

1:10:39 it less press conferences would dramatically lower andrew horowitz's blood pressure

1:10:44 it would for sure he's always like and the market has this price in or and we're expecting this and

1:10:51 nothing will happen and and they think it's going to say this and what does this phrase mean exactly

1:10:57 yeah no i'm down with that all right play this last clip then you can follow up with the real

1:11:03 clips. What is Warsh saying about his own personal investments? Not a whole lot. He is worth more

1:11:10 than a hundred million dollars. That doesn't count his wife, who's heir to the Estee Lauder

1:11:13 fortune. But Warsh's financial disclosure form is pretty opaque about how and where that money's

1:11:18 invested. Senator Warren grilled Warsh about whether he has financial ties to the Trump family

1:11:24 or to China or even to Jeffrey Epstein. Senator, I have worked tirelessly with the ethics officials

1:11:29 at the Office of Government Ethics, come do an ethics agreement with them, and have agreed,

1:11:35 Senator, to sell all of my financial assets. That's not my question.

1:11:39 We're stuck that question with a promise to sell those undisclosed assets before he starts work

1:11:44 at the Fed. How soon would he start work? Well, possibly as early as next month, but there's a

1:11:48 big hurdle to clear first. Republican Tom Tillis insists he will not allow a vote on this nomination

1:11:53 until the Justice Department drops that investigation of the Federal Reserve, which

1:11:58 critics including tillis say is just another way for the administration to put pressure on the fed

1:12:02 yeah boy okay well elizabeth warren got her got her her her isos that's what it's all about in

1:12:09 these hearings yeah she's good uh so there were two questions which i thought were uh reasonable

1:12:15 um let me see this first one let me see i don't know who was uh asking this

1:12:25 The question is about policy.

1:12:27 Prices went up to the tune of 25% to 35% for virtually all deciles of the American people.

1:12:33 That's an indication that the Fed missed its mark.

1:12:36 And we are still dealing with the legacy of the policy errors in 2021 and 2022.

1:12:44 Once you let inflation take hold in the economy, it's more expensive and harder to bring it down.

1:12:52 And so the fatal policy error going back four or five years is still a legacy that we're dealing with.

1:12:58 We need, in my judgment, fundamental policy reforms to fix it.

1:13:03 And while it's true that inflation is less problematic, meaning the rate of change in prices is less severe than it was some years ago, hardworking Americans are no doubt feeling it.

1:13:14 I think that means a regime change in the conduct of policy.

1:13:17 I think that means a different new inflation framework.

1:13:21 There's your headline. Regime change. Yes, regime change. That would be a very good idea.

1:13:27 And what exactly is inflation? Finally, someone who just says what it is.

1:13:33 Does federal government spending have anything to do with inflation, Mr. Warsh?

1:13:37 Senator, as we talked about in your office, my view of inflation is a bit different from some.

1:13:43 I don't think inflation comes about when the economy grows too much or hardworking Americans

1:13:49 get increased in their wages i think inflation comes about when the government prints too much

1:13:54 by which i mean the central bank and broadly speaking the government spends too much

1:13:58 and so we're spending too much money and now we've been cleaning up their mess ever since

1:14:02 yes yes that's what uh that would be correct mill and friedman had that i wish i had i think

1:14:11 there is a clip in there mill and friedman had a uh little inflation clip about during i guess

1:14:18 was during the civil war there's somebody one state or somebody's just printing printing printing

1:14:23 money they had endless inflation and once they stopped printing money yeah it stopped inflation

1:14:30 stopped dead amazing how that works last clip reason why i prefer monetary policy to use

1:14:37 interest rates as the dominant force is interest rates affect a far broader cross-section of the

1:14:42 economy interest rates get in the cracks if we were to cut rates and broader number of people

1:14:48 will benefit from it versus quantitative easing which tends to move through financial assets

1:14:53 first half of our fellow americans don't own any financial assets so they're wondering what's in

1:14:58 it for them yes lower interest rates exactly i'm all for that lower mortgage lower car payments

1:15:08 it's a good idea they're gonna fight him i guess elizabeth warren she she she represents the entire

1:15:18 banking industry she's no good uh so the gay general patton was also testifying did you get

1:15:27 any of that no i got none of that oh okay so scott besant uh he's a funny guy uh but he is in the

1:15:37 fight with Operation Economic Fury. Yeah. And no one likes what Besant is doing. He's helping

1:15:45 Putin. We're about seven weeks into the war with Iran. And I wondered, Mr. Secretary, given that

1:15:53 your department enforces sanctions, if you have a sense just how much Iran has gained through

1:15:59 sanctions relief since the war began. I'll tell you, estimates are $14 billion. Now, President

1:16:06 Trump's described the Obama-Iran deal as a disaster and a scandal because of the money

1:16:11 Iran got, which was about $1.7 billion. I don't know how you describe $14 billion,

1:16:16 but you don't have to read The Art of War to know that helping your adversaries gain money

1:16:22 while you're at war is a terrible idea. And it's shocking to me that the countries currently

1:16:27 profiting from the release of sanctions are our enemies. No country has profited more from this

1:16:33 war than Russia. Oil and gas prices are up nearly 50% since February, and it'd be bad enough if

1:16:40 Russia were just profiting from higher global oil prices. But your Treasury Department lifted

1:16:46 sanctions on Russian oil, giving them an extra $150 million a day in revenue. And those funds

1:16:53 are going not just to kill Ukrainians, but Russia's using its profits to support Iran with drones and

1:16:59 intelligence to kill our troops so wait a minute well wait when are russians giving them drones

1:17:05 this is the king of the drone makers is iran they're the drone you know gurus well and they're

1:17:12 the ones that supplied russia with their drones and so now russia is giving well they just send

1:17:17 the ones they sent back so the distinguished gentleman from delaware senator chris coons

1:17:22 democrat uh thinks he can fight gay general patent who does not come with a bazooka he

1:17:28 comes with this calculator agree that iran has received significant additional revenue from

1:17:33 their sales of oil because of sanctions i couldn't disagree more okay do you disagree that russia has

1:17:39 received significant additional revenue from the sanctions relief i couldn't disagree more okay

1:17:45 why did you relieve the sanctions against russian and iranian oil uh think of it this way sir there's

1:17:52 The Strait of Hormuz.

1:17:53 Familiar with it?

1:17:54 There is oil to the left.

1:17:57 Left and to the right.

1:17:58 There is to the right.

1:17:59 The Treasury was able to, just as you are concerned about gasoline prices for the American consumer and for our Asian allies, as are we.

1:18:10 Treasury was able to create more than 250 million barrels on the water.

1:18:17 And the way to think about this is, as I came in today, the oil prices are at $100.

1:18:22 If we had not done that sanctions relief, they might have been at $150, because the world became very well supplied.

1:18:30 So if Russia was selling their oil at a 20% discount, I can tell you that 100% of 100 is less than 80% of 150.

1:18:41 And the American consumer has been better off.

1:18:43 Take that, Senator. You can't do math.

1:18:46 The folks in Delaware are buying $4 a gallon gas today.

1:18:50 I don't see that we've seen a significant reduction in the price of the pump or the price on the world markets.

1:18:55 But I have two more questions I want to get to.

1:18:57 And I look forward to disputing with you the details.

1:19:00 I believe that Russia and Iran have benefited from the release of sanctions.

1:19:04 And when you said we're not going to extend sanctions relief and then we're reversed,

1:19:09 I was deeply disheartened because we shouldn't be funding Putin's war machine.

1:19:13 I would like to tell you, that was as a result.

1:19:15 Last week was Bank Week, World Bank, and IMF Week.

1:19:19 John, we missed Bank Week?

1:19:20 Yeah, we missed Bank Week.

1:19:22 Hey, everybody, it's Bank Week!

1:19:24 And on Wednesday, it was my belief we would not do it.

1:19:28 I was approached by more than 10 of the most vulnerable and poorest countries in terms of energy,

1:19:36 and they asked us to extend that sanction, and it's only for 30 days.

1:19:41 30 days, $4.5 billion to Putin's war machine.

1:19:44 Yes, you're a Putin lover.

1:19:46 You're all in with Putin.

1:19:47 This last clip was, I think, to me, the most interesting

1:19:51 because this is where the U.S. dollar comes into play

1:19:55 as it diminishes constantly as the reserve asset currency,

1:20:01 reserve currency of the globe.

1:20:03 But Gay General Patton has been requested to do things

1:20:07 and he is doing them and it will save our bacon.

1:20:10 of the uae as i'm sure you probably know president trump and his family have done a very brisk

1:20:17 business with the uae over the last few years there was the 500 is this the right one we

1:20:23 understand that the uae million dollars that shake town noon the uae's national security advisor and

1:20:31 brother the president invested in world liberty financial which is the trump family crypto venture

1:20:37 Right before the president's inauguration, there was the $2 billion in World Liberty stable coins that Sheikh Tanoun used to invest in Binance, a deal that effectively handed World Liberty $2 billion in cash, at the same time that the United States government relaxed our export controls on high-end AI and ships to UAE companies.

1:21:03 And now, I understand that the UAE is looking for a swap line.

1:21:13 Swap line!

1:21:13 The war in Iran has already cost us dearly.

1:21:17 In my view, it's been a huge mistake, made us less safe and a lot worse off.

1:21:25 In addition to lives lost, we're talking about over a billion dollars a day in taxpayer money.

1:21:33 We're talking about higher gas prices.

1:21:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:21:36 Higher prices overall.

1:21:38 And now, we understand that the UAE is asking you to provide them a swap line.

1:21:46 So, just so people understand, this is not like money we're going to give them a swap line as we get their reals, which are pegged to the dollar.

1:21:55 So, it's exactly the same thing.

1:21:57 It's just giving them U.S. dollars to, well, Scott Besson will explain.

1:22:02 through the Exchange Stabilization Fund.

1:22:04 Mr. Secretary, can you talk about this request

1:22:07 and whether or not you expect to support it?

1:22:11 Senator, I would dispute much of what you earlier said

1:22:16 and any linkages to this swap line.

1:22:19 Many of our Gulf allies have requested swap lines.

1:22:23 You would have just read about the UAE.

1:22:26 And swap lines, whether it's from the Federal Reserve or the Treasury,

1:22:30 are to maintain order in the dollar funding markets

1:22:35 and to prevent the sale of the U.S. assets in a disorderly way.

1:22:47 So the swap line would both benefit the UAE and the U.S.

1:22:53 And as I said, numerous other countries, including some of our Asian allies, have also requested them.

1:22:59 Yes, all oil in U.S. dollars.

1:23:02 Exactly.

1:23:03 That's exactly the right thing to do.

1:23:06 These senators, they do not know anything.

1:23:11 No, they don't.

1:23:14 They really don't.

1:23:15 Well, what are you doing?

1:23:16 That's Trump.

1:23:18 It's making Trump rich.

1:23:19 Okay.

1:23:21 All right.

1:23:24 We can talk about Iran.

1:23:27 i got these vax clips i wanted to get out of the way vax clips okay let's talk about the vax for a

1:23:33 while we haven't what you got in vax land well i got the i actually have one i want to play from

1:23:39 the last show i didn't move it over but let's start with this this is the uh yeah this is the

1:23:46 let's start with the ron johnson going after the vaxxers uh finally let's just put up this graph

1:23:54 uh because of your radical transparency i've got close to 11 million pages you know we uncovered

1:24:00 they hid the signal on myocarditis we also just recently uncovered that they also hit a signal

1:24:06 on ischemic stroke for people over 65 but tailing 2022 2023 they hid both signals they downplayed

1:24:13 them but what is most alarming and we'll be holding a hearing on this next week i've got a draft

1:24:18 report they were made aware peter marx was made aware on march 26th of 2021 that the inventors

1:24:28 of the algorithm that analyzes the various data was going to mask adverse events they were he was

1:24:36 told that by using a different system they had uncovered 49 examples of extreme masking

1:24:44 25 significant adverse events, including sudden cardiac death, Bell's palsy, pulmonary infarction.

1:24:52 So this report will be issued in conjunction with that hearing.

1:24:57 Again, I didn't need a sophisticated mathematical model to tell me that we had safety signals screaming at us.

1:25:05 This chart shows the deaths associated with vaccines all the way going back to 1990

1:25:10 when Bayer started, a couple hundred a year.

1:25:14 anaphylactic shock that type of thing 2021 over 20 000 deaths and for five years fda has been

1:25:23 saying uh we don't see a signal this was a signal screaming at us that to this very day

1:25:29 we are covering up so my there are a bunch of people involved in this cover-up

1:25:34 that still continue to work within the hhs cdc fda i want your commitment that those people

1:25:40 be made available for interviews.

1:25:41 I'll have to subpoena others.

1:25:43 I'm going to dig into this massive

1:25:46 government. You have my

1:25:48 commitment. Thank you.

1:25:49 Nothing will come of it, but

1:25:51 there it is.

1:25:53 Now you have to look this one up.

1:25:56 This is called Vax

1:25:57 Study Batches.

1:25:59 Two

1:26:02 shows ago. Vax

1:26:04 Study Batches.

1:26:06 Hmm.

1:26:07 Vax.

1:26:10 Batches, maybe?

1:26:11 That's odd, John.

1:26:15 I don't see it.

1:26:16 Oh, spell study with two Ts.

1:26:19 Oh.

1:26:19 No.

1:26:25 Vax?

1:26:26 Is it Vax with one X?

1:26:28 V-A-X, all caps.

1:26:31 Okay.

1:26:32 V-A-X.

1:26:34 Space?

1:26:35 Space, yes?

1:26:36 Yeah.

1:26:36 S-T.

1:26:38 I'm sorry.

1:26:40 I don't have it.

1:26:40 S-T-T-U-D-Y.

1:26:42 No, I don't have this clip.

1:26:44 Ah, you have to.

1:26:46 From how long ago is it?

1:26:47 Two shows ago.

1:26:48 Well, let me go look in that bin.

1:26:50 Hold on a second.

1:26:50 Don't take me but a second.

1:26:52 So from 1860?

1:26:54 Yeah, from 419.

1:26:56 I have Vax and Food.

1:27:00 And Vax Study Batches should be right under it.

1:27:03 No, it's not in there.

1:27:04 Well, then it got moved up one maybe, but I didn't see it anyplace else.

1:27:09 He'll be on the next show then.

1:27:10 Okay, hold on.

1:27:11 That would be 1861, the last one.

1:27:14 And I see there we have, oh, interesting.

1:27:19 Yep, I have it.

1:27:20 Okay, we got it.

1:27:21 We now have peer-reviewed published data by Schmeling and colleagues from Denmark, basically a bombshell study.

1:27:29 They found that 4.2% of the batches of the doses that were dosed out of that batch accounted for skyrocketing serious adverse events, hospitalization, and death.

1:27:42 That was 4.2%.

1:27:44 In a sense, really bad batches.

1:27:46 There was about two-thirds of batches that were moderate, pretty low risk, moderate.

1:27:51 And then, interestingly, a third, zero.

1:27:54 There was basically that line didn't come off.

1:27:57 They took a shot, and nothing happened.

1:28:00 Nothing happened.

1:28:01 Yeah.

1:28:02 Well, we had reports.

1:28:03 Which brings me to the point I've been wanting to make.

1:28:06 Okay.

1:28:06 Which is liability.

1:28:08 This brings us back to the good old days with the swine flu vax that one of these companies released, if you recall.

1:28:16 That was just swine flu.

1:28:18 It killed people.

1:28:19 You get shot, you get swine flu.

1:28:20 It killed people.

1:28:21 Yeah, it killed people.

1:28:22 But there's no – they've got – why can't they talk about liability more?

1:28:27 even mccullough who was there he's the one giving that yakety yak he he doesn't mention it it needs

1:28:35 to be mentioned all the time you can't bring a product out and sell it to the public without

1:28:41 liability you can't be you know indemnified by the government for bringing out crap

1:28:48 okay well well you know the rfk jr has promised he's going to take care of all that yeah he hasn't

1:28:57 done anything well the only thing he did just before you get to your next vax clip um you know

1:29:03 they did sign that executive order uh about disclosing all of the side effects of um

1:29:12 i'll see if i can find it now in your advertising

1:29:17 yeah oh oh that'll do it

1:29:23 and by your thing by the way by your theory that would just draw people to the vax

1:29:31 that's your cigarette theory uh yeah that theory yeah you're right so so it's either ban or nothing

1:29:42 you're right whenever you say it's going to kill you people want it it's crazy yeah it's like i'm

1:29:48 a tough guy tough guy ozempic literally you don't want to have sex you get eye cancer your liver

1:29:55 goes to crap your pancreas fails want to look good you're looking good you're looking good

1:30:03 now this last one's just kind of an aside but i think it's pretty funny this is this is that

1:30:08 you've seen this character he's mccullough's right hand man he's this kind of dull guy

1:30:14 who talks with he's just a dull guy and he's talking about this is the vax flu shot causes

1:30:21 dementia all right largest single study ever conducted on vaccines and dementia with over

1:30:27 13 million people in it found that vaccinated adults who got flu shots and pneumococcal shots

1:30:36 they faced a 50 increased risk of alzheimer's and a 38 increased risk of dementia and the risk

1:30:45 increased the more doses they got so they started to get more flu shots that they lined up every

1:30:52 year to get it unfortunately they faced the highest risks of neurodegenerative conditions

1:30:58 and the risk persisted for over 10 years and so it appears you know once you receive so many of

1:31:07 these shots it is inducing neuroinflammatory injury dementia and alzheimer's in vaccinated

1:31:13 adults so not only now do we know that the flu shot doesn't work according to stress and colleagues

1:31:21 out of the cleveland clinic flu shots increase your risk of flu by 27 so not only do they do that

1:31:28 But now it appears that they increase the risk of dementia, which is absolutely terrible.

1:31:34 Holy mackerel.

1:31:35 You didn't hear that one?

1:31:37 No.

1:31:37 Oh, yeah.

1:31:39 And we have a dementia epidemic in our country.

1:31:42 Yeah.

1:31:43 And in Europe, I know lots of people who have parents who have early-onset dementia.

1:31:49 Wow.

1:31:51 You probably have a lot of your friends who have just gone cuckoo, losing their minds.

1:31:57 it's getting there i mean it depends i don't i don't know personally that many people that

1:32:02 line up for the flu shot every year but if you have if you have a precondition of being a democrat

1:32:07 yeah well that's for sure make it worse wow no that's oh man and that's again liability

1:32:18 flu shot who knows what's in the thing that is and besides the fact that you have a higher chance

1:32:23 of getting the flu yeah well that's the joke of it oh that's almost humorous that is just so lame

1:32:30 so i uh i listened to the new podcast the carlson kids have you heard this podcast

1:32:37 no i heard about it hey everybody it's time for the carlson kids i had no idea tucker's brother's

1:32:44 name is buckley yeah how white can you get well how tucker and buckley here's my son tucker and

1:32:52 Here's my other son, Buckley.

1:32:54 Let's go have a spot of something good.

1:32:58 I don't know if it's just white or just D.C.

1:33:02 You know?

1:33:04 Buckley.

1:33:06 If you're in D.C. and their dad was, you know, he ran...

1:33:11 He was a spook.

1:33:12 Yeah, he was a spook.

1:33:12 He ran the Broadcast Board of Governors, Voice of America, stuff like that.

1:33:16 Yeah, that was a good job.

1:33:17 Yeah, it was a great job.

1:33:18 We'd be very good at it if it still existed.

1:33:21 They fired everybody.

1:33:22 shut it down i guess kind of some people had to be unfired so i don't know um but i think if you're

1:33:30 in dc and you're probably thinking oh i just william f buckley he is just so awesome i think

1:33:38 why don't we honey why don't we name our son buckley maybe we'll get invited to the party

1:33:44 maybe we'll get invited to the cocktail party so uh both conservative apparently and these clips

1:33:53 are relatively short but both are just so disappointed they just feel like they've been

1:34:01 betrayed betrayed by trump where a lot of people who really like trump are very disappointed in

1:34:09 trump in fact more than disappointed feel betrayed but are enraged feel like suckers feel like they've

1:34:14 been taken for a ride possibly have supported that given what it became taken out back and

1:34:19 thumped a couple times a lot of people seem to feel that way but do a lot of people

1:34:26 seem to feel that way do they actually feel that way according to polls now there's a wait you can't

1:34:33 You put forth a thesis that is kind of, you know, assertive and then ask the question, am I right, am I wrong?

1:34:43 You can do that on a podcast.

1:34:44 You can do anything you want on a podcast.

1:34:47 A lot of people seem to feel that way.

1:34:50 But do a lot of people seem to feel that way?

1:34:54 Do they actually feel that way?

1:34:55 According to polls on CNN, 100% of MAGA voters still support Trump.

1:35:02 A hundred percent. Is that real? Well, it's really hard to know, given how fraudulent so much polling is. So we thought we would speak to the one person we know who sincerely supported Trump from the very beginning.

1:35:17 Wrote speeches for Trump in 2015, voted for Trump three times. New people within the Trump White House worked with the Trump White House.

1:35:27 Fuentes, except for the writing speeches, he voted for Trump three times.

1:35:32 Bring on Nick.

1:35:33 He already had Nick on.

1:35:35 This is a new guest.

1:35:36 We've never had this guest on the show.

1:35:37 That period, 10 years, supported Trump in public, not on television, which is easy, but in his own neighborhood, which was 100% Trump haters.

1:35:47 That person is my brother, it turns out.

1:35:50 Buckley Carlson.

1:35:51 Uncle Buck, as he's known to us.

1:35:52 Uncle Buck.

1:35:53 Buck Tuck.

1:35:55 You don't have brothers or sisters, but I would never call my brother uncle anything.

1:35:59 I don't have a brother.

1:36:00 I wouldn't call him Aunt Tiffany, Aunt Willow.

1:36:03 No.

1:36:03 Anyway.

1:36:05 No.

1:36:05 So here's Buckley.

1:36:06 And you can imagine what the breaking point was.

1:36:08 What broke these men?

1:36:10 What was the breaking point for you?

1:36:12 Really, initially, it was the attack on Iran.

1:36:22 Why is he laughing over that?

1:36:25 He laughs at it.

1:36:26 He also has the same intonations that Tucker does in his voice.

1:36:30 Yeah, it's a milieu.

1:36:31 It was the attack.

1:36:35 And he also stretches words like was the.

1:36:38 That's an important DC thing.

1:36:40 I'm never going to get through these.

1:36:42 It's 26 cents.

1:36:43 No, you're not.

1:36:44 Not with this guy.

1:36:45 It was the attack on Iran initially last year when, I guess,

1:36:53 We successfully eradicated all of their nuclear capability.

1:36:56 Are you aware?

1:36:57 Because it was still on.

1:36:57 I'd heard that.

1:36:58 It may still be on the White House website because it was on there even when we engaged in this latest war with Iran, this unnecessary, what will be probably a forever war that has killed Americans and is going to degrade us as a country.

1:37:13 Significantly, already has.

1:37:16 Speculation?

1:37:17 Significantly, already has.

1:37:20 I don't know.

1:37:21 It's a betrayal of the promises.

1:37:23 That's what it is.

1:37:25 Because politicians never betray anybody with their campaign promises.

1:37:28 President Trump has come through on a number of them, but this one was the breaking point.

1:37:33 And then the war in Iran, which he clearly had no plan for, wasn't enthusiastic about at all.

1:37:40 He was fully aware of the risks.

1:37:41 He was fully aware that it was a betrayal of his explicit promises for 10 years not to do this.

1:37:46 He did it.

1:37:46 Okay.

1:37:47 So he didn't want to do it?

1:37:51 no he said he really didn't want to he wanted to negotiate and he gave him two weeks and then

1:37:56 he struck him early uh but you're kind of leading towards something i think here tucker

1:38:01 he did it against his will that's my against his will ah okay highly informed reed highly

1:38:07 informed reed okay he has what yes he did it against his will this goes back to the new york

1:38:14 times he was bb netanyahu controls donald trump oh okay yeah there you go this is what this is

1:38:22 what it is he did it against his will that's my highly informed read yes i mean i could be wrong

1:38:28 what he goes it's my highly informed which is like a cheat word we don't know highly informed

1:38:38 or not i'm really says it is so it must be you and i are reliably informed and he is only highly

1:38:44 informed i think are reliably trump's is highly highly informed i'm gonna i'm informed i am

1:38:50 yes i mean i could be wrong you know you don't know what people's motives actually are but it

1:38:55 could be wrong weasel from very close vantage i can say i don't think he was excited about it

1:39:02 but he did it um clearly he felt he had no choice so and i think that's widely understood yes yeah

1:39:11 yes but i have no sympathy for him for doing that no but this is all leading to one thing

1:39:17 israel it's still reprehensible and it's still a big question mark why would someone who has

1:39:23 obvious and demonstrated allegiance to a foreign power give donald trump 250 million dollars while

1:39:30 he's running for president i mean how is that defensible it's really not um if russia wait a

1:39:36 minute how many how much money did kamala harris get in like three weeks two billion dollars 1.5

1:39:47 okay billion had given a pack for trump you know if the mayor of moscow had somehow

1:39:56 you know assembled an enormous amount of money and put it in a in a 501c3 for trump's benefit

1:40:02 would that have been acceptable of course it wouldn't have been where were you when it came

1:40:06 down to hunter biden getting the money from the mayor of moscow what kind of analogy is this

1:40:11 so what does someone it's so basic comes back to the money like what did they get in return

1:40:16 for that amount of investment and so the the accusation here i think is because he got 250

1:40:26 million dollars from a jew miriam adelson yeah that that is the reason why he went to war in

1:40:32 iran for 250 you got more money from musk for 250 million dollars into a pack okay so what does

1:40:40 someone it's so basic just make me president miriam and i'll hit iran for you i got other

1:40:45 things to do but i'll hit iran i promise you it's back to the money like what did they get in return

1:40:49 for that amount of investment and it's clear i get it no i mean of course i agree with every

1:40:56 word that you're saying i just think you should say that given his john could you say that more

1:41:01 often to me I agree with every word you say you have to say of course I agree with every 100 of

1:41:07 course I agree with every word you say 100 I agree with everything you're saying I'm not using 100

1:41:12 oh come on that amount of investment and it's clear I get it no I mean of course I agree with

1:41:18 every word that you're saying I just think given his behavior and his demonstrated disloyalty and

1:41:27 viciousness to previous supporters yes why wouldn't he display the same lack of loyalty

1:41:34 to miriam adelson what i mean that's kind of the question the only people he's been loyal to

1:41:40 are the neocons and his donors so he's attacked you know so he attacks islam

1:41:48 some of us stand up and say probably didn't attack islam i don't i don't know he said

1:41:55 praise be to Allah.

1:41:56 Yeah, how's that attacking Islam?

1:41:58 I mean, that's kind of the question.

1:42:02 The actress said inshallah

1:42:04 the other day

1:42:06 for the new Devil Wears

1:42:09 Prada 2 movie and

1:42:10 Hathaway. So is that

1:42:13 an attack on Islam? Who knows?

1:42:15 The only people he's been loyal

1:42:17 to are

1:42:18 the neocons and his donors.

1:42:21 So he's attacked,

1:42:23 you know, so he attacks Islam

1:42:24 some of us stand up and say

1:42:26 probably shouldn't be attacking a religion

1:42:29 oh you're a Muslim secret Muslim

1:42:31 you love Muslims yes you are

1:42:32 you do love Muslims

1:42:35 I love lots of Muslims

1:42:37 no just I like

1:42:39 reverence and I don't think you should attack people on the basis

1:42:41 of their religion you don't attack their religion

1:42:42 yes

1:42:43 and all these like evangelicals are like oh

1:42:47 see you're a Muslim the next week

1:42:49 he attacks Jesus

1:42:50 okay because it's all he attacks

1:42:53 jesus now you can see when did he attack jesus maybe that's the the messiah meme he attacked

1:43:00 jesus the next oh the oh that that are the ai art yes he attacked jesus and all these like

1:43:07 evangelicals are like oh you see you're a muslim the next week he attacks jesus attacks okay because

1:43:13 it's all connected right clearly of course well they have money obviously well right but the one

1:43:19 person he's never going to attack is

1:43:21 Rebbe Schneerson. A Jew?

1:43:23 Who? Rebbe Schneerson.

1:43:26 Rebbe Schneerson?

1:43:28 It's a Jew. He's not an attack.

1:43:29 And then what about Saul Goldberg?

1:43:31 How about that? How about

1:43:33 Saul Goldstein? Remember him?

1:43:35 Oh, yeah.

1:43:36 What was his show? Channel J?

1:43:39 I'm not sure.

1:43:42 I don't remember.

1:43:42 Goldstein, you're talking about

1:43:45 the guy who was on

1:43:47 uh screw magazine goldstein he was a fact magazine or one of them he's a magazine he had a show on

1:43:54 public access new york yes where he just groused and he's hey i'm getting ripped off by and he

1:44:01 tells some story about some company that owes him money it was a great guy yeah he was very funny

1:44:07 person he's never going to attack is reby schneerson yes oh yeah and uh you know the

1:44:14 abad leader who's passed but who i'm not attacking by the way um but who was regarded as the messiah

1:44:21 by many of his followers but i don't think trump should attack him to be clear but i would never

1:44:27 attack him that's the one messiah he will never attack so like what is that am i wrong no you're

1:44:34 not wrong all right so their whole thing is israel this is a podcast they put on the air two hours of

1:44:41 it two hours two guys agreeing with each other yeah it was pretty boring but i sat through it

1:44:47 i want to contrast that with a an interview from associated press and i i pulled three clips but

1:44:54 i'm only going to play one and it's enough and this is eric weinstein also conservative

1:45:00 um i think probably this guy's lost the plot well he said something really interesting in

1:45:08 this interview he's a wild card you know there are three people who are doing amazing versions

1:45:14 of the drunken boxing game kanye who's probably uh the first one to really fail elon and donald

1:45:22 trump and all three of them tried to do something where you couldn't pin them down you couldn't

1:45:27 figure out like what they were going to do next and that's what the order is keeps trying to do

1:45:33 like, will you commit to this? Will you say this? Will you mouth these words? And none of these

1:45:39 people would play the game. So that's what Donald Trump is. He's a guy who's got formulas that

1:45:44 confuse people like Sam Harris. I think that Trump is an incredibly intelligent man and that there's

1:45:50 incredible method in his tweets of old. You can just, you could put them into a data set and you

1:45:57 say that there are five or six different types of tweets and then the left falls for every one of

1:46:01 them every time. What if the one figure everyone called unpredictable was actually the most

1:46:07 calculated player on the board? Eric Weinstein flips the narrative, arguing that Donald Trump

1:46:13 wasn't random. He was strategically unreadable. Weinstein compares Trump to a drunken boxing

1:46:20 master. Impossible to anticipate. Impossible to trap. While critics saw chaos, he sees pattern.

1:46:28 Messaging designed to confuse opponents, disrupt expectations, and force the system into reacting instead of controlling.

1:46:36 And I agree with that.

1:46:38 That is what I call the Trump algo.

1:46:40 And I think you agree with it mostly.

1:46:43 Yeah.

1:46:44 And he does this over and over again.

1:46:47 And that's what the yelling is.

1:46:48 And we're going to, you know, I'm going to bomb civilization.

1:46:51 Iran will no longer be a civilization.

1:46:53 So, you know, so many people got upset.

1:46:56 How can you condemn Hillary Clinton for laughing about Gaddafi being killed,

1:47:03 but you don't condemn Trump for saying he's going to wipe a whole civilization off the face of the map?

1:47:08 I said, well, two reasons.

1:47:09 One, he didn't do it, and we knew he wouldn't do it, and we said he wouldn't do it.

1:47:14 Two, he didn't laugh.

1:47:16 He wasn't laughing.

1:47:18 Yeah, he wasn't laughing about it.

1:47:19 He wasn't laughing about a guy being killed, and then a rifle stuck up his butt, which is what they did.

1:47:26 They might have fired it, too.

1:47:27 So I personally think, and, you know, this is people, oh, he's doing 5D, 7D, go and chess.

1:47:35 Nah.

1:47:35 He's strategic.

1:47:37 He has patterns.

1:47:38 And I personally believe that this president is getting rid of the they that we always talk about.

1:47:45 And the they is not a person.

1:47:46 It's not Soros.

1:47:48 It's not, you know, China.

1:47:49 It's an entire system.

1:47:51 It's a whole system that's been around for well over 100 years.

1:47:55 And he's breaking things apart systematically, and he does not care what Tucker and Buckley think of him.

1:48:00 He's doing it ultimately for my grandchild, the way I see it.

1:48:06 And this pattern emerged on CNBC when he was grousing about the Supreme Court overruling of his tariffs.

1:48:17 You know, we had a little setback with the Supreme Court.

1:48:20 They said I can charge tariffs, but I have to do it a different way.

1:48:24 And because of what they did, we have to pay back $160 billion.

1:48:27 All they had to do was add one sentence, just one sentence.

1:48:31 And that's, you don't have to pay anything taken in thus far back.

1:48:35 But because they didn't add, and by the way, it was a close call, too.

1:48:38 There were justices that were powerful that I was right on the tariffs.

1:48:43 But because we lost by just two votes, you know, just a little vote, two votes,

1:48:49 we have to pay back $165 billion.

1:48:52 They could have with a little one sentence, you don't have to pay back tariffs that have already been received.

1:48:58 You start from this point and you do it a different way.

1:49:01 So we're doing it a different way.

1:49:02 So the grousing is about that.

1:49:06 He has to pay it back.

1:49:07 And all the mainstream was like, oh, you get your money back.

1:49:10 Got to pay the money back.

1:49:11 Trump's a loser.

1:49:12 And what he's not saying in this clip, he's not saying the tariffs are important for our country, for national security.

1:49:19 He just offhandedly says, I've got to do it a different way.

1:49:23 He mentions two Supreme Court justices, the two that he nominated, Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett.

1:49:33 And I think they may have been in on this because just this week I got this email from the oil baron.

1:49:40 And he says, there's a run on pipe.

1:49:42 What? What are you talking about? Run on pipe, man.

1:49:48 Because of the tariffs, the 232 tariffs.

1:49:50 Had you even heard about this?

1:49:52 No, tell me.

1:49:53 So the 230, so when Trump says, yeah, I got to do that a different way.

1:49:57 Well, boy, did he.

1:49:59 And this was by executive order, but it came through a recommendation that has to come from the Commerce Secretary.

1:50:08 Oh, isn't that coincidental?

1:50:09 That's Ludnick.

1:50:10 And the change in 232 tariffs is significant and very significant to the oil baron.

1:50:18 Because it changes the tariffs on steel products.

1:50:23 And before, so the way it used to be is you paid 50% on the percentage of steel in a product.

1:50:37 And now we changed it to 50% on the entire product if it contains steel.

1:50:44 Big deal.

1:50:46 It's a huge deal.

1:50:47 There's also a 50, you know, there's 25% of downstream products. So if it's foreign steel, it's auto parts, then it's only 25%, 10% if the metal is melted and poured in the United States. So there's all kinds of different tariffs, 15%, under 15%, there's no tariff.

1:51:06 But it puts in place a system that reinvigorates, and this is what he promised to do, reinvigorates American steel.

1:51:16 There's billions of dollars in steel plants coming online right now.

1:51:20 They'll be fully operational by 2027, 2028.

1:51:24 And yeah, the executive order could be overturned by the next president, or you could have a congressional order to vote to overturn that.

1:51:34 Right, you could put it in play permanently.

1:51:37 I don't think West Virginia will vote.

1:51:39 It's like the steel producing states will never vote for this.

1:51:45 And it would be suicide because this will create, I believe, hundreds of thousands of jobs.

1:51:50 And I have a couple of clips here from the steel industry executive.

1:51:57 This is a lobbying, it's an industry group, so take it for what it is.

1:52:01 And he kind of explains how fantastic this change is.

1:52:05 Now this.

1:52:06 President Trump has signed an executive order to revamp his tariffs on steel, copper, and aluminum.

1:52:13 The White House calls it a move to strengthen economic and national security.

1:52:18 Brandon Ferris joins me now.

1:52:20 He is the Steel Manufacturers Association executive vice president.

1:52:25 All right, Brandon, great to have you here.

1:52:27 What do these developments really mean for manufacturing and affordability?

1:52:32 Tell us.

1:52:33 Ashley, thank you so much for having us.

1:52:36 And we are energized.

1:52:38 The steel industry is energized.

1:52:40 This is one of the most exciting times in recent history to be involved in the American

1:52:46 steel industry.

1:52:47 President Trump has done more for the 87,000 men and women who make America's steel than

1:52:54 any president in modern history.

1:52:57 And what he did last week, it was a necessary move.

1:53:00 It wasn't optional.

1:53:01 He moved the full value of the tariffs to the full product.

1:53:05 Before, it was based on percentage of steel.

1:53:09 And we saw bad faith importers underreporting the value and avoiding paying the full tariff.

1:53:16 And now they will be paying the full tariff and the 232s are paying off for the American steel industry.

1:53:22 Yes, this is a great gambit.

1:53:25 Listen how much has been invested.

1:53:27 Brandon, because there were so many critics of the tariffs saying it's a tax and the American

1:53:32 consumer is going to ultimately pay the price. But how successful do you think the tariffs have

1:53:39 been in accomplishing the goal that they set out to do? Ashley, what we believe is the president's

1:53:47 signature trade achievement is the 232 steel tariffs, and they have been historically successful.

1:53:54 over the last few years in our industry they've driven 25 billion in investments and they will

1:54:01 put online an additional four million tons of steel capacity and what does that mean putting

1:54:07 that into perspective with that additional four million tons of steel capacity you can build a

1:54:13 thousand guided missile destroyers for the navy that's not just economic might that is national

1:54:20 security ashley and there's your big beautiful ships that we're going to build and we will build

1:54:24 them. And you do need steel as national security. And here come the jobs. And what about manufacturing

1:54:29 jobs in this country, Brandon? Have we seen a turnaround on that level? Absolutely, we have.

1:54:38 We've got some very impressive job numbers from March. We're going to continue seeing that as the

1:54:44 president's trade policy continues to reshore American manufacturing. The steel industry,

1:54:50 Those $25 billion in investments, those are going to create tens of thousands of jobs.

1:54:54 For every steel job you have, you have six or seven throughout the value chain.

1:54:59 And we're going to continue increasing those manufacturing jobs throughout our economy.

1:55:03 So for the Carlson kids, I think that this was part of the plan all along.

1:55:10 He knew that he would never be able to, these tariffs, they're not going to last through

1:55:13 another administration, the ones that he had, put 10% here, 50% here, 100% there.

1:55:19 That was just to get everybody, you know, draw them all in.

1:55:22 And then this 232, that was done without any big brouhaha.

1:55:28 No one reported on it.

1:55:29 But they're permanent for all intents and purposes.

1:55:31 And by 2028, when there's a new president, regardless of who it is, you won't turn that back.

1:55:38 Then, yeah, yes, is it going to cost more?

1:55:42 I'm sorry, oil baron.

1:55:43 I love him.

1:55:44 He's my brother.

1:55:45 But, okay, you've had a good ride.

1:55:47 You can take a little less profit because of your run on pipe for the next two, three years.

1:55:52 And then, you know, it will make no sense to buy inferior steel from South Korea or from China or wherever else you get it from.

1:56:01 It'll be American steel.

1:56:03 And I think it will reinvigorate our country.

1:56:06 And I like it.

1:56:08 Sounds like a good catch.

1:56:12 I like it.

1:56:13 I like it a lot.

1:56:14 And, you know, Trump lover, you suck him off, you pussy.

1:56:19 Well, you know, I got a grandkid coming, so I like it.

1:56:23 I don't mind.

1:56:24 Yeah, I'll take the pain.

1:56:24 I will lay face down in the mud so my grandchildren can walk over my back.

1:56:30 I got one last little thing here to discuss.

1:56:34 Yeah, you're going to make the sacrifice.

1:56:38 I like that.

1:56:38 John's like, hey, Theodorable, get off my back.

1:56:44 What are you walking on my back for, kid?

1:56:46 I just want to get this one thing,

1:56:49 this cigarette thing out of the way.

1:56:51 Cigarette thing?

1:56:52 Yeah, the, I got one short clip I think that covers it.

1:56:57 Yeah, WBAL-TV, Baltimore, UK ban on smoking

1:57:02 for anyone born after 2008.

1:57:04 Countries like the Maldives and Bhutan

1:57:06 have enacted total tobacco bans,

1:57:09 but with a population of nearly 70 million people,

1:57:12 This ban in the U.K. could have serious and long-term impacts.

1:57:16 Under the Tobacco and Vapes Bill, the legal age for buying tobacco will increase by one year every year,

1:57:23 starting with people born on or after January 1st, 2009.

1:57:27 This means children in the U.K. who are 17 or younger will never be able to legally buy cigarettes.

1:57:34 I've seen this report, and people are like, oh, can you believe it? They won't let kids smoke?

1:57:40 It's about purchasing.

1:57:42 They're not going to arrest you if you're smoking on the street.

1:57:45 Well, the other thing is this.

1:57:47 Mimi dug up an interview with the head of Philip Morris from, I don't know, 10 years ago.

1:57:53 Yeah.

1:57:54 And he predicted this because the company, and nobody's covered this at all,

1:58:00 and Philip Morris may be behind this, may be an op.

1:58:03 They don't want to sell cigarettes and tobacco products.

1:58:07 It's always tobacco products anymore because they sell the straight-up chemicals in vapes.

1:58:12 Yes, they want to sell the nicotine.

1:58:14 And they sell the little chewy thing you put in your mouth.

1:58:16 Yeah, the pods, yes.

1:58:18 Yeah, instead of the, you know, tobacco chew, there's no tobacco.

1:58:22 Because tobacco products are a pain in the ass.

1:58:25 They're staying on the shelves.

1:58:26 People aren't buying them anyway.

1:58:27 They're buying the vapes.

1:58:28 And the way the CEO told it, there's a clip I could have, but it's hard to clip.

1:58:35 It was, we got China.

1:58:37 Our tobacco price is fine.

1:58:39 We make tobacco products for China.

1:58:42 Those guys love smoking.

1:58:43 They love smoking.

1:58:44 And it's killing them.

1:58:45 Nobody else does.

1:58:46 Everyone else wants to vape or they want to chew on a ball, you know, that kind of thing.

1:58:51 So the whole thing is fake.

1:58:53 Chew on a ball?

1:58:54 You know, a thing filled with nicotine salts.

1:58:57 I love vaping.

1:58:59 Yeah, you do.

1:59:00 You're a big vaper.

1:59:01 There's a lot to be said about nicotine.

1:59:03 But you used to smoke like a, you were a smoker.

1:59:06 I would tell the story out of class.

1:59:08 You know, Adam used to not only smoke, but he was a dilettante about it.

1:59:14 And he liked to roll his own.

1:59:16 That's because I was rolling weed in it.

1:59:19 I wasn't just smoking tobacco.

1:59:20 Yeah, you were rolling weed in it, but it was always this rigmarole.

1:59:23 You know, you didn't use a little machine to make a cool looking cigarette.

1:59:26 No, that's gay.

1:59:27 You rolled it with hand rolls.

1:59:28 That's gay.

1:59:29 No, man, I've been rolling my own since I was 15 years old.

1:59:32 He's rolling his own.

1:59:34 It looks just like they all do.

1:59:36 They look like shit.

1:59:37 No, and I had the long filters, so they looked like a joint,

1:59:40 and they were a joint.

1:59:41 They were spliffs, in fact.

1:59:44 That is the traditional name for what I would smoke,

1:59:47 and I enjoyed it very much.

1:59:49 And I'm amazed that Tina married me,

1:59:52 despite me being a wake-and-bake guy.

1:59:56 It was amazing.

1:59:57 She even decided to...

1:59:59 Wake-and-bake.

2:00:00 I never heard that one.

2:00:02 Oh, John, I would wake up at three in the morning.

2:00:04 These days, since I quit smoking, I sleep like a baby.

2:00:07 I sleep all the way through, you know, seven and a half hours if I'm really lucky.

2:00:12 But six and a half, seven hours, I wake up on my own accord before the alarm.

2:00:15 But when I was smoking weed, I would take a 50 milligram gummy, go to bed.

2:00:20 And then I'd wake up at three in the morning like, I'm awake.

2:00:25 I'd go out on the porch, smoke a whole joint, go back to bed.

2:00:28 It was pretty severe.

2:00:31 Now, that's bad.

2:00:33 You would say that I was a lot more fun back in the day, but I don't, I would, uh, well

2:00:39 you would have, but I don't think, I don't think I've changed that much.

2:00:42 I don't think you changed that much either.

2:00:45 Uh, to be honest about it, you're pretty much, I don't think that the weed thing was, I think

2:00:49 it was just habitual.

2:00:50 I wasn't really affecting your personality to any extent, except, you know, when you

2:00:54 first smoke, sometimes, you know, I remember the time you were out in front of me, Vio.

2:01:01 Yeah.

2:01:02 She's smoking a joint.

2:01:03 And as the employees wandered in whenever they felt like it,

2:01:07 hey, you'd always greet them.

2:01:09 Hey, I'm glad you could finally make it to work.

2:01:12 They were coming in at 10.30.

2:01:14 One after the other.

2:01:15 And did that stop pretty quick after I was sitting out there smoking my weed

2:01:20 and telling them that I was happy they could finally make it?

2:01:23 No, not really.

2:01:24 Yes, it did.

2:01:25 It made a difference.

2:01:27 It went out of business anyway.

2:01:28 Yeah.

2:01:31 It wasn't a great idea.

2:01:32 You're ahead of your time is the reason.

2:01:33 No, no one's making money on podcast networks.

2:01:37 Yeah, they're making money by selling to other dummies.

2:01:40 Well, yes, there's that.

2:01:41 But that has always been my plight.

2:01:44 I'm always 10 years too early.

2:01:46 Yeah, I agree.

2:01:47 Look at that guy.

2:01:48 He made a billion dollars.

2:01:49 How did he do that?

2:01:51 No.

2:01:52 We went public in 1996.

2:01:54 Woo!

2:01:56 You know, two years later, people, you know, Mark Cuban made $10 billion on selling a domain name.

2:02:03 I was the first one.

2:02:04 Now, face it.

2:02:07 I think it was $3 billion.

2:02:08 Okay.

2:02:09 This is my plight.

2:02:11 This is what it is.

2:02:13 Yeah, Cuban had the domain.

2:02:15 Mark Cuban's claim to fame.

2:02:17 Broadcast.com.

2:02:18 He put up the domain name Broadcast.com.

2:02:20 Pretty much.

2:02:21 Yeah, I think it was Yahoo that said, we'll give you a couple billion for it.

2:02:26 Okay, that was how he made his fortune.

2:02:29 He was live streaming.

2:02:30 He's a marketing genius.

2:02:32 He's a business genius.

2:02:33 Yes, he was live streaming radio stations and selling ads around it.

2:02:39 Then he would literally go to the stations and say,

2:02:41 I'm becoming a billionaire off of your product, thanks.

2:02:45 And they went, okay, Mark, okay, sounds good.

2:02:49 No, maybe I'm not shrewd enough.

2:02:51 I'm a podcast, let's face it.

2:02:53 That's what I am.

2:02:54 I've always been a disc jockey.

2:02:55 I started when I was 13.

2:02:57 I was a disc jockey then.

2:02:59 I was a disc jockey on TV.

2:03:01 And I'm a disc jockey now.

2:03:04 It's your calling.

2:03:05 Call it what you want.

2:03:08 That's what I call it.

2:03:09 I have one oddball clip that nobody's covering.

2:03:12 Okay.

2:03:12 It's one of the unreported news.

2:03:15 Unreported.

2:03:15 Zelensky.

2:03:17 Stolen art.

2:03:19 On March 22nd, three paintings by French masters Cezanne Renoir.

2:03:24 and Matisse, worth more than $10 million, were stolen from a museum near the Italian city of Parma.

2:03:30 The theft has since been investigated by Italy's Carabinieri and the Cultural Heritage Protection Unit.

2:03:37 Surprisingly, less than a month after the heist, one of the stolen paintings,

2:03:42 a cup and plate of cherries by Paul Cezanne, appeared in one of President Zelensky's videos.

2:03:53 Presumably recorded on April 16th, the video shows Zelensky addressing Ukrainians with a stolen painting appearing on a wall directly behind his back.

2:04:02 The video was published on the official website of the president of Ukraine, but has since been removed.

2:04:08 This is a rare case of a stolen painting reappearing in public.

2:04:11 Chris Marinello, founder of Art Recovery International, says that a very small percentage of stolen art is ever found.

2:04:19 Five to ten percent of all art that's stolen is ever recovered, which is why we need to start focusing more on prevention.

2:04:28 He also confirms that stolen art often ends up in countries where the rule of law is weak.

2:04:33 They move them on through Belgium or Eastern Europe, countries where due diligence is not often practiced as it is in the West.

2:04:42 Yeah. Yeah. Can you believe that he's got this stolen art? This is a corrupt operation.

2:04:49 Of course it is.

2:04:50 You know, there's no focus on him right now.

2:04:53 That's the problem.

2:04:54 Yeah, I know. It's been taken away.

2:04:57 Yeah.

2:04:58 And Trump is only helping Putin kill Ukrainians.

2:05:02 So, yeah.

2:05:03 Hey, with that fine little clip that no one's reporting about,

2:05:07 I'd like to thank you for your courage.

2:05:08 Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the Carlson kid.

2:05:11 Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. Still Alive,

2:05:14 John C. DeVore.

2:05:19 Well, in the morning, you're Mr. Adam Green.

2:05:21 In the morning, you should be seeing Boots McGrath.

2:05:22 He's there.

2:05:22 Something's in the water.

2:05:23 Damson Knight's out there.

2:05:24 In the morning to you trolls over there in the troll room.

2:05:26 Let me count you for a second.

2:05:27 Don't move.

2:05:27 There we go.

2:05:28 1377 in the troll room listening live.

2:05:35 It's noagendastream.com.

2:05:38 I've been troubleshooting one of our producers.

2:05:41 He's like, I can't hear the stream.

2:05:44 I'm getting kicked out.

2:05:45 It's up out there.

2:05:49 How can I help?

2:05:49 Well, I keep getting kicked out by that.

2:05:52 Well, are you listening in a podcast app like a modern podcast at podcastapps.com?

2:05:57 Are you listening on Astralis at noagenda.com?

2:06:00 Okay, we don't actually have that domain name.

2:06:03 You know, if you have a technical problem, you need to learn to describe a little bit what's going on.

2:06:10 It's, you know, I am the help desk for no agenda.

2:06:15 I'm the first line of defense before I toss it over my shoulder and say, Void Zero, help.

2:06:19 And Void Zero is just one of the many people who help make this show what it is.

2:06:26 I mentioned at the top of the show, if you're listening right now, this is a value for value podcast.

2:06:30 And people have been helping us for over 18 years in so many different ways.

2:06:36 No one's a listener.

2:06:38 Everybody's a producer.

2:06:39 Everybody has an obligation.

2:06:41 And when it comes around to you and we're talking about something that you know that you're an expert in, you need to email us, which means email me adamatcurry.com because no one can spell Dvorak.

2:06:50 And it's not Dvorak.com either.

2:06:53 How many times has that happened?

2:06:56 My email is getting bounced from John at Dvorak.com.

2:07:00 Yeah.

2:07:01 Okay.

2:07:01 Is there a Dvorak.com?

2:07:04 Do you have that?

2:07:04 You should have that.

2:07:05 Actually, I do own it.

2:07:07 I believe it's never used.

2:07:10 Some guy bought it up for you and gave it to me, and I'm not sure who.

2:07:15 I'm not sure where the registration is.

2:07:17 I'd have to look it up.

2:07:18 I went into it.

2:07:18 No, I used .org for a reason.

2:07:20 I'm a .org, not a com.

2:07:21 You're a .org kind of guy.

2:07:23 I checked curry.com today.

2:07:24 It doesn't expire until 2030.

2:07:26 That's good.

2:07:26 I'm good.

2:07:27 So at that point, I'm done.

2:07:29 I've got to end this sometime.

2:07:32 How about you?

2:07:33 How about you?

2:07:34 How about you?

2:07:36 We've looked for so many exit strategies.

2:07:39 at a certain point

2:07:40 when we just be old and tired

2:07:42 and just like

2:07:42 we went to 2030

2:07:43 they won't even

2:07:44 the whole

2:07:45 this is

2:07:45 nah

2:07:46 20

2:07:47 let's get to the next election

2:07:48 I'm not doing another presidency

2:07:50 we can't do another presidency

2:07:52 well that's 2028

2:07:53 okay

2:07:54 I was thinking like

2:07:55 2027 somewhere

2:07:57 you know

2:07:57 before

2:07:58 before we get to the

2:07:59 now you make my wife nervous

2:08:01 stop it

2:08:01 Mimi's got five businesses

2:08:05 she's running

2:08:06 she doesn't need you

2:08:07 the talent

2:08:09 john's the talent we just do everything around him i love your family your family's great

2:08:15 uh so just like the dvorak family everybody here pitches in and does something for the show

2:08:21 and we ask you to support us by returning the value that you receive from the media

2:08:26 deconstruction that we do which i i would say someone email me and said you're not keeping

2:08:32 to your promise oh what is our promise john we promise to deliver unbiased news deconstruction

2:08:41 no no no no no two hours and 45 minutes no what does the faq say oh what does the faq say it says

2:08:51 we do you know i wrote it yes we do media deconstruction yeah well somehow that morphed

2:08:58 to you do fair and balanced media deconstruction i said no that's fox news uh stuff which is a lie

2:09:06 oh yeah we yeah it doesn't mean fair and balanced no fair and balanced is bullcrap

2:09:11 we're very unbalanced in fact yeah we are who we are and and what we don't do is we don't

2:09:19 get captured by the audience like megan kelly tucker carlson all these guys yeah start hating

2:09:27 jews for no good reason you know we don't care remember ukraine man i got flack in texas for that

2:09:37 that's exactly what they said

2:09:43 so the guy had a hair lip basically right pretty much there were ukraine flags everywhere

2:09:50 like no this is a scam oh yeah remember the ukraine flags in congress which i think is

2:09:57 illegal yeah yeah yeah ukraine flags everywhere i think huge ukraine flags in dripping spring like

2:10:03 no this is ukraine is one big corrupt country always has been always has been and it was us

2:10:12 it was victorian newland it was brennan it was lindsey graham they always want they they hate

2:10:20 russia they want to invade russia and take russia's riches and you still hear coons our number one

2:10:27 enemy russia no he's not he's not we're gonna do lots of business here's how that call went

2:10:35 you know about the oil that scott besant lifted the sanctions on here's how that went

2:10:40 uh vlad is donald listen uh i'm we're gonna release the sanctions whatever you do don't

2:10:48 give it to the europeans okay donald good idea this sells to japan everybody got oil from russia

2:10:55 china but not the eu and they don't deserve it they're stupid cutting off the oil and gas from

2:11:04 russia how stupid are they this is a question you need to answer they're very stupid very stupid

2:11:12 They just have the hard-on for Russia.

2:11:14 Hard-on for Russia and for renewables.

2:11:17 Oh, yeah.

2:11:19 Windmills.

2:11:20 Yeah, let's shut down the nuclear power plants in Germany and see what happens.

2:11:26 Yeah.

2:11:26 What could possibly go wrong?

2:11:28 FDU, that's right.

2:11:30 See Brooklyn.

2:11:30 So, yes, time, talent, treasure.

2:11:33 As I said, many people put a lot of time and talent into doing things for us.

2:11:38 And that includes artists.

2:11:40 now it used to be really hard

2:11:41 what the artist did it's gotten a lot easier

2:11:43 just prompting some stuff back and forth I think

2:11:45 did if I remember

2:11:47 correctly did we choose another Darren O

2:11:49 compilation here let me check

2:11:51 episode 1861

2:11:54 we titled that the cone of uncertainty

2:11:55 this got some good

2:11:57 traction on the x.com

2:12:00 which is the only social network I ever look at

2:12:01 and pretty much only my inbox

2:12:03 or my mentions

2:12:04 and it was indeed Darren

2:12:07 O'Neill but he nailed it

2:12:10 the classic road signs, which were well done in this case,

2:12:14 no agenda, current Dvorak, and then a digital sign,

2:12:17 welcome to Canada, would you like to die today?

2:12:19 And a nice little Canadian maple leaf in the corner.

2:12:24 And a lot of Canadians responded saying,

2:12:28 unfortunately, this is true.

2:12:30 It was like the reality was pressed in front of them.

2:12:35 They went, yeah, that kind of does suck what we're doing over here.

2:12:38 So it worked.

2:12:40 it worked it was well done good idea darren we appreciate it take a quick look at no agenda

2:12:46 art generator.com to see if there's well there wasn't really anything else that's what i'm i'm

2:12:50 checking um let's see i like something and you yeah you mixed it you it was constance constance

2:12:59 granger the straight of whore moose which you know the the it was a it was a toll booth and

2:13:07 Yeah, you're right.

2:13:08 It didn't take much to talk me out of it.

2:13:11 If it wasn't a moose head.

2:13:12 Well, it was a moose dressed.

2:13:16 There's a pun, but the pun was in the title.

2:13:18 Yes, dressed as a hooker.

2:13:19 And if you look at the title, whore, moose, as in a moose that is a whore,

2:13:25 it's funny, but just the art by itself, no one's going to get this.

2:13:28 I mean, it's like one of those riddles.

2:13:31 What is it called?

2:13:33 There's a particular kind of cartoon, they must have a term for it, where it's something you have to think about.

2:13:41 We can't have people thinking about our art.

2:13:43 We just can't.

2:13:45 I will say that Rocket Boys, No Agenda, Floss, Free Zone, I think that was used in the newsletter.

2:13:52 That was pretty funny.

2:13:53 Yeah, that was good.

2:13:58 I like that one.

2:14:01 Dana Brunetti thought that was one of the funniest things he'd ever heard.

2:14:04 What?

2:14:06 That I busted you for flossing your teeth on the show.

2:14:09 Yeah, he said it was, I guess, cracked him up.

2:14:12 Maverick, my periodontist, says, what is this?

2:14:17 What is this?

2:14:18 You're telling people to stop flossing?

2:14:21 This is no good.

2:14:21 He got so much response.

2:14:25 You can't floss while you're on the air.

2:14:26 You can't do that.

2:14:27 It's no good.

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2:20:38 And they drive around in golf carts?

2:20:40 No, no.

2:20:42 You can drive your car through that.

2:20:44 Oh, okay.

2:20:44 All right.

2:20:45 Max Marder in Van Nuys, California comes up with 33333.

2:20:49 Hi, Adam and John, he writes.

2:20:52 I'm making this donation of $333.33 for my wife, Annie Marder, for her birthday, April 26th.

2:20:58 She's a wonderful wife and mother to our two kids.

2:21:00 And I can't think of anything she would like more than to be an executive producer for your show.

2:21:06 She listens to every episode when they become available and even re-listens to them with me in the car.

2:21:13 She adores you guys, especially John.

2:21:16 Yeah.

2:21:17 Please give her an extra special de-douching for her birthday.

2:21:22 you've been de-douched happy birthday annie i love you max comma annie's husband oh that's so

2:21:33 lovely de-barred de-barred in fenton michigan row of ducks 222.22 first time long time a de-douching

2:21:44 is an order you've been de-douched a thousand apologies for my belated contribution but i am

2:21:50 poor it took me that you should talk to the southern poverty law center they might be able

2:21:54 to help took me the better part of eight months wow this is so appreciated it took me the better

2:22:00 part of eight months to save for this donation and there is more to come i know i could have

2:22:04 done smaller donations but my reasons are as follows one you two really deserve it and with

2:22:09 jcd's recent health scare i knew i couldn't wait any longer and i hope you're feeling better john

2:22:14 he says two i heard karma really works and i'm in dire need of all the karma gitmo nation can

2:22:20 muster three with the very limited wins in my life I think having the title of associate executive

2:22:25 producer will not only cheer me up but look good on my resume yes that's you know you got to take

2:22:31 that into account it cheers you up four I could not show my face at the Brighton Michigan meetup

2:22:39 on the 26th as a douchebag wow so when everybody at the Brighton Michigan meetup on the 26th make

2:22:46 sure you say had i had a d d bard thank you both sincerely again i need all the karma and prayers

2:22:52 but for the sake of time i'll settle for an f35 karma as my jangle love is lit d bard you've got

2:23:02 karma elijah the coffee guy is here in bensonville illinois 20423 with all that's going on in the

2:23:13 world no agenda is needed more than ever all of us producers really appreciate the dedication

2:23:18 you won't get a bad ticker you won't let a bad ticker or a flight across the pond stop the show

2:23:25 by the way how's that coming what are you gonna go yeah yeah i'm going you're gonna be able to

2:23:31 get back no it's a big no may 6th we're going may 6th and we're supposed to return may 13th

2:23:37 the show will continue as regularly scheduled.

2:23:40 But if I can't come back, guess what?

2:23:43 The show will continue as regularly scheduled.

2:23:45 Keep up the great work for what happens to the dog.

2:23:48 Oh, Jill and Mike, they got her at the ranch.

2:23:51 She's fine.

2:23:52 She loves the ranch.

2:23:53 Okay, good.

2:23:54 For producers who want great coffee,

2:23:57 visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com

2:23:59 and use the code ITM for 20% off your first order.

2:24:02 Stay caffeinated, says Eli, the coffee guy.

2:24:05 You have the next two.

2:24:06 Yes, it's ITM 20 for 20% off your first order.

2:24:10 What did I keep saying?

2:24:11 ITM, just ITMs.

2:24:12 ITM 20.

2:24:13 We don't want people to get bogged out of their discount.

2:24:15 So the next two is interesting because Robert Mussard comes in from Riverside, California with $200 with no note.

2:24:24 So he will get a double up karma.

2:24:25 You've got karma.

2:24:30 But then I see Linda Lou Patkin, Linda Lou, and it says see note with her $200 donation.

2:24:36 I do not have a note.

2:24:38 Do you have a note?

2:24:40 I didn't look.

2:24:41 But Jay did not send me a note.

2:24:45 I noticed.

2:24:46 This is important.

2:24:48 This is Linda Lou, man.

2:24:50 Well, you know what we're going to do if we can't find a note?

2:24:54 What will we do?

2:24:56 We'll read her standard sales pitch.

2:24:59 Well, do you have the standard sales pitch there?

2:25:01 The last note I have from her is from May 16th.

2:25:04 From last year?

2:25:06 Yeah.

2:25:08 From last year?

2:25:09 Well, this is a conundrum.

2:25:13 Well, I have a note from the last spreadsheet.

2:25:15 I'll just open that up, and I should be good to go.

2:25:18 Do you have that?

2:25:19 Yeah, I have it on the download list.

2:25:22 Good, because I'm on Linux, so.

2:25:23 Oh, Linux.

2:25:25 if you can grab it from the last show i feel horrible because linda lou i don't think she's

2:25:32 ever said c note never so there must be here's what she normally says this jobs karma your resume

2:25:41 has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't for a resume that gets results go to

2:25:47 imagemakersinc.com linda helps professionals and executives turn their executive i'm nuts

2:25:55 experience to a clear story of leadership results and impact that's image makers inc with a k

2:26:02 and linda lu duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for

2:26:10 jobs well i feel bad because i'd like to do i'd like to give good service to uh to linda lu

2:26:19 but whatever it is we'll make up for it we guarantee you that continuing the rest of our

2:26:24 supporters for today. Value for value at

2:26:26 noagendadonations.com. There she is,

2:26:28 Dame Rita from Sparks, Nevada,

2:26:30 163.62.

2:26:31 That is 74.74

2:26:34 plus 88.88.

2:26:35 That's the donation amount to keep John

2:26:38 ticking, and Adam ticks for free.

2:26:40 Michael Poling

2:26:42 in Hingham, Massachusetts, 155.

2:26:44 DeSoto Drone,

2:26:46 hmm, I think that's

2:26:48 a company?

2:26:48 Must be. DeSoto Drone

2:26:52 in South Haven,

2:26:54 Mississippi.

2:26:56 Did I get it right?

2:26:58 Did I get it right?

2:26:59 105.35.

2:27:01 I have to stop and think like I'm on MSNBC.

2:27:04 Edward Gardland in Menden, New York, $100.

2:27:08 Ian Field, $100.

2:27:09 Marius, oh, Marius Ovenagel.

2:27:14 Ovenagel.

2:27:16 Marius Ovenagel in Norway, 88.88,

2:27:20 calling out Halvor sitting in the sauna as a douchebag.

2:27:24 although he kicked me in the mouth about 2.75 years ago keep on keeping on thank you marvis

2:27:31 marius marius of nagel coming in with the boob donation 80 and eight cents 8008 sir kevin

2:27:38 mclaughlin from concord north carolina he is the arch dune of luke lover of america and boobs

2:27:43 and as always says god bless america and boobs brian kaufman scottsdale arizona no stranger to

2:27:49 the donation 75 75 nicholas leary from columbus ohio 72 72 dame becky arlington washington 69 96

2:27:57 nice palindrome scott schreiber in madrid in spain oh he sent a bitcoin donation for 60.09 euros i'm

2:28:05 scott i'm in madrid thank you those cross-border payments go very fast with bitcoin sir john and

2:28:11 herbert springs uh heber heber heber what did i say berber no heber springs uh sexist what is this

2:28:22 uh arkansas or arizona what is ar arkansas okay i need help az is arizona 69 88 and he turned 69

2:28:36 today's show date 88 cents for john's recovery matthew elward from weatherford texas small boobs

2:28:42 60 and six cents 6006 couple of small boobs also one from les tarkowski in kingman arizona and dame

2:28:49 liberty mom from vista california then we have baron henry of outpost west in rancho palos verdes

2:28:55 california 5995 another palindrome 55 55 from philip davis in jessup georgia my my born in

2:29:04 of Georgia. My daddy had a farm.

2:29:06 Last week, the citizens

2:29:09 of Brantley County, Georgia

2:29:10 fought against a proposed data center being

2:29:12 brought to their county. This week,

2:29:14 a fire started. I live a county

2:29:16 over and have friends and family in Brantley. Send

2:29:18 prayers and silver iodide.

2:29:20 I can help with the prayers.

2:29:22 Cameron Linge,

2:29:23 North Branch, Minnesota. Double nickels on

2:29:26 the line, 55-1. Back to work, back to

2:29:28 supporting. Thank you for your courage. Christopher

2:29:31 Wexelberger in Leipzig,

2:29:33 Germany. Another shameless plug for the Leipzig meetup on April 30th. He sends $54.30. Can't wait

2:29:40 to hear the meetup report from that one. Daniel Lindt, Humble, Texas, $53.74. Happy birthday for

2:29:46 his 53rd trip around the sun. Happy belated birthday to John. That's hence $53.74. Numerology

2:29:52 counts. Chris Rees in

2:29:53 Wichita, Kansas, 53-33.

2:29:56 Margie. Margie.

2:30:00 Margie. What is this?

2:30:02 Margie. Some kind of

2:30:06 pronunciation. Can I be Margie?

2:30:07 Margie. Yeah, Margie. It's the Margie.

2:30:10 No, it says Margie, as in

2:30:11 go. G-E-E

2:30:14 is spelled G. It says

2:30:15 right here in the notes. No,

2:30:17 how do you spell, take the word G.

2:30:19 How do you spell it?

2:30:22 Now, I'm with you on that, but it says here in the note, this is happy...

2:30:25 Oh, yeah, I see it.

2:30:26 It'll use a hard G.

2:30:27 Oh.

2:30:27 Then it should...

2:30:29 He says, please with wish Margie a very happy birthday on April 22nd with love from her

2:30:39 family in Wichita.

2:30:40 Margie, as in geek.

2:30:42 Margie.

2:30:42 You're going to argue with me?

2:30:44 I'm arguing.

2:30:45 It's what makes the show...

2:30:50 I don't care what it says.

2:30:52 I know you don't.

2:30:52 You just want to argue.

2:30:53 You're just here to argue.

2:30:54 You don't care what the point is.

2:30:56 Well, you said so at the beginning.

2:30:57 James Bue...

2:30:58 Did I?

2:30:59 What did I say?

2:30:59 At the beginning.

2:31:01 So you got plenty of clips you're just here to grouse.

2:31:03 Oh, goodness.

2:31:04 Oh, now I get it.

2:31:05 That made you mad?

2:31:06 No, I took your advice.

2:31:09 Some things never change.

2:31:13 James Buehler, Belleville, Illinois, 5272.

2:31:17 William Kidwell, 5272.

2:31:19 Charles V. Bruschetti, Grove City, Pennsylvania, 5272.

2:31:24 Thanks for the analysis.

2:31:25 It says, wishing John a healthy, quick recovery.

2:31:27 He's here.

2:31:28 Just a few weeks after his chest was cut open.

2:31:32 Tyrell McMahon, Somerville, Tennessee, 5151.

2:31:36 ITM and 73s from November Juliet, 8XRay, 73s.

2:31:42 Forrest Martin, $50.05.

2:31:43 Andrew Benz, $50.05.

2:31:45 He's in Imperial, Missouri.

2:31:47 Kat from Toronto, California.

2:31:49 Shout out to Ash Gavai from Toronto, Ontario, who just turned 41.

2:31:54 We both love your show. Thanks for what you do. Glad you're okay, John.

2:31:57 Now the 50s.

2:31:58 Baron Slam Bob, Rolling Knight of the Guadalupe and Sand City in San Jose, California, 50.

2:32:04 And he says, I will never leave you and always stand by your side.

2:32:07 Alex Delgado, Aptos, California, 50.

2:32:11 Simon Smith, South Jordan, Utah.

2:32:14 Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington.

2:32:16 Michael Mize in Diamond Head, Mississippi.

2:32:20 Woo!

2:32:20 Almost messed it up.

2:32:21 And that's it.

2:32:23 Those are the 50s.

2:32:24 And that is our list of value for value supporters for the time, talent, and this was the treasure portion for episode 1862.

2:32:32 We appreciate everybody who supports us in any manner whatsoever, time, talent, or treasure.

2:32:38 But, man, it does help when you guys send in some treasure.

2:32:41 Noagendadonations.com.

2:32:42 Everybody can participate.

2:32:44 you can do it on your own time your own dime your own schedule just whenever you feel you got value

2:32:50 out of the show send it back to us noagendedonations.com you can even set up a bitcoin

2:32:55 donation or recurring donation anytime any frequency noagendedonations.com

2:32:59 and here are those birthdays her entire family says happy birthday to margie

2:33:10 She celebrated on the 22nd.

2:33:12 Kennedy Sage Myers was born on the 23rd.

2:33:15 Yes, they, well, welcome, brand-new human resource.

2:33:18 Sir John turned 69.

2:33:22 Oh, that's actually today she was born.

2:33:23 What?

2:33:23 She was born today, Kennedy Sage.

2:33:25 Wow.

2:33:26 And Sir John turned 69 today.

2:33:28 Max Marder wishes his wife Anne Annie Marder a happy birthday on the 26th.

2:33:33 Daniel Lindt turns 53.

2:33:35 And Kat says happy birthday to Ash Gavai from Toronto.

2:33:39 Turned 41 years old.

2:33:40 We say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:33:44 It's your birthday, yeah.

2:33:47 And we have a couple of special people to thank.

2:33:49 Behold the order of the heart.

2:33:53 Pure of purpose, right from the start.

2:33:57 In the morning, brave and smart.

2:33:59 The order of the heart.

2:34:02 We have two red knights, order of the heart, to congratulate.

2:34:08 They will be receiving that handsome lapel pin in addition to their night ring.

2:34:12 Sir Ex-Anonymous and Sir Dobie Destroyer of Libraries, thanks to your instant donation of $1,000.

2:34:19 Congratulations, and welcome to the Order of the Heart.

2:34:22 Behold the Order of the Heart.

2:34:26 Pure of purpose, right from the start.

2:34:30 In the morning, brave and smart.

2:34:33 The Order of the Heart.

2:34:38 Two quick missed, actually a missed donation note from Sir E61.

2:34:43 He's Black Sheep, E61 Black Sheep.

2:34:46 We didn't have that note in the last show.

2:34:48 Quick blurb from my last 202.02 donation.

2:34:51 John, you're sounding like your old grumpy self.

2:34:53 Thank you for your service.

2:34:54 Amen.

2:34:55 Love you, brother.

2:34:55 Jingles, Obama, you might die.

2:34:58 I can't believe I didn't have that one set up.

2:35:05 Where is you might die?

2:35:07 i have such a good system that's what you might where is he where is he oh here he is

2:35:16 you might die hardly worth it i'm glad i did that uh also we have a by that's true

2:35:22 i was trying to i was trying to skip that but thanks yeah i saw that i wasn't gonna let you

2:35:29 get even once that poor guy that's true oh that's the wrong one i see it that's good enough

2:35:34 there's so many of them

2:35:39 I think it has to do with the

2:35:41 classic here we go

2:35:42 since you called for it

2:35:45 a night from Chris

2:35:47 he also said Mimi rocks

2:35:49 that I just missed

2:35:52 I would have said that I didn't miss that on purpose

2:35:53 Chris Kinney

2:35:55 we learned how to say that on the last show

2:35:57 he said on show 1860

2:35:59 my parents Mike and Becky Kinney gifted me

2:36:01 an instant knighthood for my 50th birthday

2:36:03 That's right. I would like to claim that knighthood with the following title, which will be Sir Sound Guy Red Knight of Streaming Data Protector of the Transactions.

2:36:15 At the roundtable, I'd like to partake of Shiner Bohemian Black Lager and True Buffalo Style Hot Wings and Blue Cheese.

2:36:23 He likes long stuff.

2:36:25 By the way, Mike welcomed JCD to the Zipper Club.

2:36:29 The Zipper Club is a club for people who have undergone open heart surgery.

2:36:33 It is named after the unique scar running up the sternum that looks a lot like a zipper.

2:36:37 You don't say.

2:36:38 ITM, Chris Kinney, soon to be Sir Sound Guy.

2:36:41 Yes, that is in fact true because we have a couple of nights to welcome today,

2:36:45 and I'm going to bring up my blade.

2:36:47 John has a little tiny one.

2:36:48 I got one right here, the portable.

2:36:50 Chris Kinney, Anonymous, and Cody Dobson, all three of you, hop up here on the podium.

2:36:57 You are about to become Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.

2:37:00 I'm very proud to pronounce the K-D as Sir Sound Guy, Red Knight of Streaming Data, Protector of the Transactions, Sir Ex-Anonymous, and Sir Dobie, Destroyer of Libraries.

2:37:11 Gentlemen, for you, we have Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys & Chardonnay, Extra Hookers, as requested, Shiner, Bohemian, Black Lager, and True Buffalo Style Hot Wings with Blue Cheese.

2:37:20 Along with that, we've got Redheads and Rise.

2:37:23 We've got Ruben S. Women and Rosé.

2:37:24 Geishas and Sake.

2:37:25 Vodka, Manila.

2:37:26 Bongans and Bourbon.

2:37:27 Spike Ring Cider and Escorts.

2:37:28 Ginger Oil and Gerbils.

2:37:30 Breast Milk and Pavlo Man.

2:37:31 Mutton and Mead.

2:37:34 Always available here at your No Agenda Night and Dame Roundtable.

2:37:38 And thank you all.

2:37:39 Go to NoAgendaRings.com.

2:37:41 That is where you can take a look at these wonderful...

2:37:45 Do we have the Red Knight pin up there yet?

2:37:49 I do want to say one more thing.

2:37:51 I want to thank Sir Skunkbeard for the card.

2:37:55 He sent the card and a coin, which he wanted to remind you was valuable.

2:38:02 What coin was it?

2:38:05 It was a little coin.

2:38:06 I'll talk to you about it after the show.

2:38:08 Oh, man.

2:38:10 Like a million dollars valuable?

2:38:12 We should be so lucky.

2:38:15 How about a Bitcoin?

2:38:19 somebody that's good money somebody should send us a bitcoin that would be nice but we'll take

2:38:24 whatever we can get and we appreciate everybody supporting us noagendadonations.com and we always

2:38:30 have a list of the meetups for you these are the no agenda meetups which you can find at

2:38:34 noagendameetups.com yeah this is where the no agenda nation gets together all around the world

2:38:47 truly is an international event and happening.

2:38:50 And you can attend one near you.

2:38:53 You can go to noagendameetups.com.

2:38:55 This is where you will find people

2:38:56 who will give you connection, immediate protection.

2:38:58 These are your first responders in an emergency.

2:39:02 And you can go visit them in the Netherlands.

2:39:04 If you're in Scheveningen on Saturday,

2:39:07 that'll be the second No Agenda splash up.

2:39:09 Oh, that's where they go swimming.

2:39:10 Crazy people.

2:39:11 Albuquerque, the 505 meetup,

2:39:14 also on Saturday at two o'clock at Tin Can Alley

2:39:17 in Albuquerque. The Flight of the No Agenda

2:39:19 No. 74 in Toluca Lake,

2:39:20 California, Foreman's Whiskey Tavern.

2:39:22 That is Leo Bravo. The 74th

2:39:25 meetup he has organized. And there's a lot of people that show

2:39:27 up. That's always cool. Central

2:39:29 Ohio, people in California

2:39:30 need it, especially Los Angeles area.

2:39:32 The Central Ohio meetup

2:39:35 at 5 o'clock on Saturday at Dempsey's

2:39:37 Food and Spirits in Columbus,

2:39:38 Ohio. And

2:39:40 see you on Sunday.

2:39:42 Our next show, day M1.

2:39:45 No, it's the

2:39:46 The Michigan Local 1, Spring Fling.

2:39:49 Ah, yes, Michigan Local 1, I think one of the oldest meetup groups.

2:39:52 One O'Clock at Brewery Becker in Brighton, Michigan.

2:39:56 Still to come this month, North Toronto in Ontario on the 29th,

2:40:00 Alfreda, Georgia on the 30th, Leipzig in Germany on the 30th.

2:40:04 I'm expecting a lot of people to be there.

2:40:06 Let me just take a quick look.

2:40:07 We got so many coming up in May, June, July.

2:40:11 October's already on the calendar.

2:40:13 Go to noagentameetups.com.

2:40:15 this is where you can find every single one listed now here's the good news it doesn't cost

2:40:19 anything you don't have to there's no you know like secret handshake you just say in the morning

2:40:24 and everyone's in the morning how you doing and you grab a drink you have a good time at chat

2:40:28 about stuff and you will find that even though everybody's from very diverse backgrounds from

2:40:32 constitutional lawyers to lowly hookers we have them they've been to our meetups and by the way

2:40:38 not all of them are lowly why did i even say that i don't know help me uh you'll find these people

2:40:45 at no agenda meetups and if you can't find one near you start one yourself it's easy

2:40:49 no agenda meetups.com guaranteed always a party sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the

2:40:57 nights and days you wanna be where you won't be triggered or hell's blame you wanna be where

2:41:07 Everybody feels the same

2:41:10 It's like a party

2:41:12 And before we move on to the highly anticipated John's tip of the...

2:41:18 What? I don't see any ISOs.

2:41:20 I decided to let you have it.

2:41:23 Oh, what, you're going to do some excuse like dog ate my homework?

2:41:27 I was in the ER.

2:41:27 Dog ate my homework.

2:41:28 I was in the ER and no one attended to me? Please.

2:41:31 Yeah.

2:41:32 You know that I tried to get people to help you, right?

2:41:37 Did you know that?

2:41:38 I'm sorry, like how?

2:41:39 Oh, I put out a tweet.

2:41:42 Oh, I saw that tweet, yeah.

2:41:43 I said, I...

2:41:44 How did it pay off?

2:41:45 I got, well, I had, there was a lot, doctors responded, people were calling nurses they

2:41:52 knew, so I don't know if it helped.

2:41:55 It got you a nasty doctor, so maybe it helped, but then you got the kind nurse who wanted

2:42:01 to immediately take your complaints, so did you get helped?

2:42:05 Do you feel like you got helped?

2:42:06 You got a monitor?

2:42:07 You got an iPhone?

2:42:07 Yeah, I'm good to go.

2:42:08 Okay.

2:42:09 Here are my ISOs.

2:42:10 You choose.

2:42:10 Geezer's got to be sick of picking ISOs.

2:42:14 That's just cute.

2:42:16 I don't think it's appropriate for an ISO.

2:42:18 I like it.

2:42:18 I like it, too.

2:42:19 How about you put some money toward us?

2:42:21 Yeah.

2:42:22 Yeah, a little bit.

2:42:23 A little condescending.

2:42:25 Nice, funny guys.

2:42:27 Real sweet.

2:42:27 Now you're talking.

2:42:29 Thank you.

2:42:30 Goodbye.

2:42:30 Boom.

2:42:32 You like that one?

2:42:33 You like the thank you goodbye?

2:42:35 Oh, hold on a second.

2:42:36 And then the last one is...

2:42:38 They were right about everything.

2:42:40 Okay, that's the one.

2:42:41 I knew I'd nailed it eventually.

2:42:43 Hey, everybody, it's that time again.

2:42:45 John's tip of the day.

2:42:46 Great advice for you and me.

2:42:50 Just the tip with JCD.

2:42:52 And sometimes Adam.

2:42:55 This is a crazy one.

2:42:57 This comes from producer Zach.

2:42:59 He sends me this website.

2:43:01 And it's like, holy mackerel.

2:43:05 If you think you're handy or handyman, you need, you know, some sort of a wrench

2:43:11 or maybe you need a certain kind of special hammer.

2:43:13 Vice grip.

2:43:14 Vice grip.

2:43:15 You need vice grips, real ones and ones that say vice grips on them.

2:43:18 And they work right, which is not everyone.

2:43:21 I have vice grips.

2:43:23 Or you need some tools for a power, you need wires or you need level controls

2:43:29 or temperature control devices, filters, filters of any sort.

2:43:34 Check out this website.

2:43:35 This is the damnedest thing.

2:43:37 This is everything known to man.

2:43:39 Okay.

2:43:40 The name of the website is McMaster.com.

2:43:50 McMaster.com.

2:43:52 Wow.

2:43:52 Keep scrolling.

2:43:55 Wow.

2:43:56 Oh, man.

2:43:58 They got hard hats.

2:44:03 You can scroll for days.

2:44:05 Oh, my goodness.

2:44:06 This is great.

2:44:08 Look at this thing.

2:44:11 It's like Home Depot on a website.

2:44:16 Only easy.

2:44:18 Steroids.

2:44:18 Hand tools.

2:44:19 Let's see.

2:44:22 Plumbing and janitorial.

2:44:24 Do they have toilets?

2:44:25 I need a toilet.

2:44:25 I need a new toilet.

2:44:26 Toilets and urinals.

2:44:27 They got toilets.

2:44:28 Urinals.

2:44:29 Wall-mounted urinals.

2:44:30 Well, that's what you need.

2:44:32 Yeah.

2:44:33 Yeah, so they have bidets.

2:44:35 Do they have bidets?

2:44:36 I want a bidet.

2:44:37 They got, wow, this is pretty good.

2:44:41 Oh, you can, oh, you can buy, you can sort it by different bowl.

2:44:48 I've been thinking about a new toilet.

2:44:54 Well, you know, here's your why.

2:44:58 I'm good.

2:44:58 Why?

2:44:59 What's wrong with the toilet?

2:45:00 I don't like our toilet.

2:45:03 What's wrong with it?

2:45:03 It's too low and it's cheap.

2:45:07 It feels cheap.

2:45:07 I want it when I want people.

2:45:09 Go to Costco has nice toilets for good prices.

2:45:12 I want people to feel like, oh, this is a nice toilet.

2:45:14 Oh, then you want to get one of those Japanese things.

2:45:17 No, that's naff.

2:45:19 No, I don't want to get one of those.

2:45:20 So before the guy can say hello, he gets washed.

2:45:24 Sprays.

2:45:24 No, I don't want that.

2:45:25 I like the snowmobile ones.

2:45:27 You know, they're really huge.

2:45:30 I want it to be a throne.

2:45:31 That's what I want.

2:45:32 For my guests.

2:45:33 It's not for me.

2:45:33 It's for my guests.

2:45:34 McMaster.com.

2:45:36 That is an interesting find.

2:45:39 I like it.

2:45:40 Yeah, I'd say.

2:45:40 I was very impressed.

2:45:41 Yeah, I like that a lot.

2:45:42 Well, that's just one of the many tips you get at tipoftheday.net.

2:45:47 Great advice for you and me.

2:45:51 Just a tip with JCB.

2:45:54 And sometimes at home.

2:45:56 Created by Dana Burnetti.

2:45:58 And that concludes our broadcast day.

2:46:01 Right on time.

2:46:02 It's a beautiful thing.

2:46:04 John's going to do his metrics.

2:46:08 No, what is it called?

2:46:10 What do they have?

2:46:12 Physical therapy.

2:46:14 No, what is it when you do a car diagnostics?

2:46:17 No.

2:46:18 It's telemetry.

2:46:20 There we go.

2:46:20 Car diagnostics.

2:46:21 Your telemetry.

2:46:22 My telemetry.

2:46:23 Your telemetry.

2:46:25 I'm going to send it to the home base.

2:46:26 On a phone.

2:46:31 All right, coming up next on noagendastream.com.

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2:46:36 Oh, that's Sir Spencer and Dame DeLorean.

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2:46:47 Remember, we will be here on Sunday to bring you another jam-packed show full of media deconstruction.

2:46:54 Tell me you didn't learn something today and you should not come back.

2:46:57 If you did, you got some value, return it.

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2:47:05 right here in Fredericksburg, Texas, in the morning, everybody.

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2:47:15 Until Sunday, adios, mofos.

2:47:17 Ahooey, hooey, and such.

2:47:29 My old tabs track the narrative line

2:47:34 Every sound bite clipped and refined

2:47:36 Producers home in the other room

2:47:39 You can feel that twist coming soon

2:47:42 Media assassination flows

2:47:45 Human resources nobody knows

2:47:47 Orange man bad scripts get red

2:47:50 While the chyrum crawls blood red

2:47:53 Jobs, jobs, jobs in the late night light

2:47:55 Value for value keeps it tight

2:47:58 When we actually send you cash

2:48:01 You salute, then roll it back

2:48:03 Second half, momentum builds

2:48:06 Nights get named, the ledger fills

2:48:08 Stir this bane, that bells ring loud

2:48:11 Producer pride, get more proud

2:48:14 And the trolls keep rolling slow

2:48:16 Bantering, chatting, trading blows

2:48:19 They said that's a great question

2:48:21 And we say no, it's not with aggression

2:48:24 Get more on the porch, get more on the porch

2:48:27 You pull it back

2:48:29 Get him on the porch

2:48:30 Get him on the porch

2:48:32 Play truce like that

2:48:34 Get him on the porch

2:48:36 Get him on the porch

2:48:37 Make the drone crash

2:48:57 Fresh arrival, make it known

2:49:16 Another seat, another throne

2:49:21 Laughs and cries, the signal's clear

2:49:25 New human resources are here

2:49:28 Spin the world, let's celebrate