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0:04 Adam Curry,

0:05 John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, 04/26/2026.

0:08 This is your award winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode eighteen sixty three. This is No Agenda.

0:16 Waving the false flag.

0:18 Yeah. Broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

0:26 And from Refinery

0:28 Row in Northern California,

0:30 I'm wondering, did anything happen over the weekend? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning.

0:37 I texted you on both machines last night on your phone

0:42 and on your so called text system. Did you not receive it?

0:45 What? My texts.

0:47 I know. I must have texted you 20 times.

0:50 What did it say? Emergency

0:53 pod. Emergency pod.

0:57 Yeah.

0:58 I missed it. Sorry.

1:01 It's time for an emerge do you have your heater on?

1:03 No. I turned it off. Okay. As a matter of you wanna hear what the difference is? No. No. I believe you. I believe you. No. Was like, emergency pod, man. Everyone's calling for an emergency pod.

1:15 Oh, man. We live in such an amazing world.

1:18 Right away. Right away. Right away. Away was false flags. False flag. Everyone's laughing. It's a false flag.

1:24 And so so you have the three name character.

1:27 Which is perfect.

1:28 Perfect. And you'd a kicker is one of our producers sent this note in.

1:33 It

1:33 it's the thirty third most popular last name in The United States.

1:41 Well, there it is. Proof. Alex Jones. Alex Jones did a car video this morning.

1:46 Everybody wants me to know. False flag is I looked at the documents. No. It's not. There's too many security personnel. Hey.

1:54 How about it makes no sense?

1:56 How about it's just crazy

1:58 talk?

2:00 False flag. And you know, here's the I have proof. Here's the proof that it was a false flag.

2:06 Because Fox News'

2:08 Aisha Hasnay

2:11 called in. She called in

2:14 and they cut her off the minute she was about to blow it. I wanna just quickly tell you, I was sitting next to Caroline Levitt, the press secretary's husband.

2:23 He was, one of our guests. He was seated right next to me and,

2:27 you know, right as the dinner was starting, you know, the national anthem happened. And then he kinda leaned over and said, you know, I watched you on TV. You did a great job. You need to be very safe. And and he was just very serious when he said that to me. And he kinda looked around the room and he said, you know, there are some

2:45 Uh-oh. They cut her off, John. They cut her off. She was about to about to blow the false flag.

2:50 Cover it. Cover it. Like we lost Ayesha's

2:53 phone there. And this happens, by the way, especially when you have so many people attempting

2:58 to utilize. Yeah. Now CNN wrote an article right away. Right away? Oh, yeah. A lot of false flag calls about this one.

3:08 Yeah. I was the teacher of the month in December 2024. In

3:13 context of this whole White House Correspondence Dinner,

3:17 this was kind of an amazing moment.

3:20 And I have a number of short clips to kind of show that Because you have to understand

3:27 the

3:28 the White House Correspondents Dinner. I think Trump hasn't attended it like since

3:33 when Obama made fun of him, I think. Yeah. I think that's true. You know, was the last one?

3:39 So there's been you know, when he didn't have a comedian,

3:42 Jimmy Kimmel was railing on that. Oh, he doesn't he has such thin skin.

3:48 Had some mentalist was what is a mentalist?

3:52 A mentalist is a, kind of a foam magician

3:56 who does,

3:58 mind tricks to make you think he can read your mind.

4:01 Oh, that could have been funny.

4:04 That could have actually been pretty funny. I'm sorry that didn't take place.

4:08 So before

4:09 By the way, the the I understood that this thing was was this bogus and I was just

4:14 led astray when they said it was sponsored by Grindr?

4:18 I I haven't heard this.

4:22 But it wouldn't surprise me considering some of the news core.

4:26 So it just

4:28 just the the the prelude to this, here's an example,

4:32 you know, because of course the president hates the press and the press hate the president

4:36 and, you know, he was they'd he he had already said, I'm only gonna do my speech, I'm gonna walk away and

4:42 here's the view. For the first time as president, Trump will be in attendance

4:48 as president. He was there one time when I was there. When the time that Obama humiliated him and he went bananas. Yeah. I was there. He actually didn't go bananas if I recall. He didn't go bananas at all. He was very just sat he just sat there stoic looking ahead. He took it. Yeah. So here's the situation. A guy that hates the press is at a dinner that honors the press. Right. You can't even make this up anymore.

5:09 Over 200 journalists signed a letter demanding that Trump gets called out during the dinner.

5:15 They decided and here's what they're saying. Watch the clips. We're really asking,

5:20 the Correspondents Association to to get a spine, to stand up there and pledge to fight back against any office holder who would lead any kind of coordinated

5:31 attack against press freedom of the First Amendment. We have a very fragile, egod president

5:36 who thinks he's king

5:38 in the Oval Office, sitting behind the resolute desk. Now presidents typically are the guest of honor,

5:45 but for us to invite this man,

5:47 this fox into the hen house

5:49 and for us to sit there and take it

5:52 So

5:53 that was kind of the vibe Talking about a fragile ego. Well, seems like the press has got the fragile ego. Exactly. So the best part of the whole evening which as I understand it was in honor of the first amendment.

6:06 There was first amendment signs everywhere and it was about freedom of speech and you know, people don't realize that this is not

6:13 what you see clips on television. We've been following this for years. The clips on television

6:19 are you know, a comedian roasting the president, the president roasting the press, But it's it's an awards, they've this award ceremony for great journalism,

6:29 they have

6:32 scholarships,

6:33 there's all kinds of different things. And it's mostly for scholarships. Yeah. It is. Exactly. So when the president then did a press conference right away, which was interesting because everyone's in their tuxedo and the purty dresses,

6:44 they got exactly

6:46 the opposite.

6:47 But in light of this evening's events, I ask that all Americans recommit

6:51 with their hearts in resolving our difference peacefully. We have to

6:56 we have to resolve our differences. I will say,

6:59 you had Republicans, Democrats, Independents,

7:02 Conservatives,

7:04 Liberals, and Progressives.

7:07 Those words are interchangeable perhaps, but maybe they're not. But yet everybody in that room, big crowd, record setting crowd. There was a record

7:15 setting

7:16 group of people

7:18 and there was a tremendous amount of love and coming together. I watched I watched and I was very very impressed by that. Oh, no. A message of unity from the president. We can't have this. It got even worse. He didn't even wanna cancel the night. He wanted to go straight ahead and let's go let's do this event. And we're going to reschedule. We're gonna do it again. We're not gonna let anybody take over our society. We're not gonna cancel things out

7:45 because we can't do that. We wanted to say tonight, I will tell you, I I fought like hell this day.

7:52 But they,

7:54 there was protocol. They said, please, sir.

7:57 Because they didn't know a lot of there was a lot of action going on, and they didn't know could there be probably a lone shooter, but we'll find out. We'll find out very quickly.

8:05 They have it very well under control. So I wanna thank everybody very much. And,

8:10 Todd Blanche, please.

8:12 So one of the most contentious relationships the president has is with Caitlin Collins of CNN.

8:19 And she was going to receive an award and the ladies of View were already all psyched up and hyped up about it. My colleague and Anna's colleague Caitlin Collins is receiving an award for her coverage of this White House. Somebody who we all have seen president Trump insult her, criticize her, and she stands there stoically and keeps asking questions that we all want the answers to. So the night should be and is about the journalists

8:41 regardless of who headlines it, regardless of the speech from the president. And I anticipate listen. He's apparently it's reported the president's gonna go give his remarks and then leave. So they can all celebrate once he leaves if they want to. The White House Correspondence Association should not accept that. If he is going to show up, he should sit there while Caitlin Collins gets her award. See, the ladies of The View don't understand how it works. They don't understand the game. I think Caitlin Collins understands the game because when she asks the question, oh, the president's very cordial towards her. Do you have any political motivations from this Well, you never know. Now we'll be able to tell you that

9:20 maybe by tomorrow or the next day, you know, he's in custody and,

9:24 they're asking him a lot of questions. I guess they're going over Todd and they're they're already at his apartment. He lives in California.

9:31 Yes, sir. And they'll be they're over there, so they'll be able to tell you. Thank you, Caitlin. Thank

9:36 you, Caitlin. Very nice. Not mean or anything. You know, even the chairman, madam chairman, madam chairman did a great job. Madam

9:45 chairman,

9:46 oh, I just wanna say you did a fantastic job. What a beautiful evening, and we're going to reschedule. Oh,

9:53 clap, clap, clap. Oh, golf claps.

9:56 Very nice. It's very tough for her to ask a killer question. Right? But you have done a fantastic job. Please. Thank you, mister president. I appreciate it.

10:04 As you mentioned, it all happened so quickly. Yeah. And

10:07 I wonder,

10:08 especially because,

10:11 have experience

10:12 with these sorts of threats. In that moment,

10:16 when you realized there was a threat and service agents were telling us to get down, can you describe,

10:24 what was going through your mind? How you were feeling in that moment? This is amazing question because if you go to journalism school, the first thing they tell you is you never wanna your first question should not be, what was going through your mind?

10:37 You know, that's like it's like the lamest question. So the best question of the night goes to Peter Doocy. Respectfully,

10:43 why do you think

10:45 this keeps happening to you? Well,

10:48 you know,

10:50 I've studied assassinations,

10:52 And I must tell you the most impactful

10:56 people, the people that do the most, you take a look at the people, Abraham Lincoln. I mean, you go through the people that have

11:04 gone through this where they got them.

11:07 But the people that do the most, the people that make

11:11 the biggest impact, they're the ones that they go after.

11:14 They don't go after the ones that don't do much because they like it that way.

11:18 And when you look at the people that have

11:21 either whether it was an attempt or a successful attempt,

11:26 they're very impactful people.

11:28 Just take look at the names here.

11:30 The big names.

11:32 And, I hate to say I'm honored by that, but I've done a lot. We've done a lot. We have

11:38 we've taken this country, and we were a laughing stock for years. And now we're the hottest country anywhere in the world. We've changed this country,

11:46 and there there are a lot of people that are not happy about that. So I think that's the answer, Peter. Yeah. You rightly said Gerald Ford.

11:54 Well, almost almost everyone who has been assassinated

11:57 or attempted assassination has been impactful. Almost almost everybody.

12:01 And luckily, the president leaves the press with a little bit of bait for the morning shows. Attributes of what we're planning at the White House, it's actually

12:10 a larger room and it's much more secure. It's got

12:14 it's drone proof. It's bulletproof glass. We need the ballroom. That's why secret service. That's why the military are demanding it.

12:21 They've wanted the ballroom for a hundred and fifty years for

12:24 lots of different reasons, but today's a

12:27 little bit different because today

12:29 we need levels of security that probably nobody's ever seen before. And I tried to get the clip this morning because I saw it but I didn't record it of, you know, MS now, I guess the the black guy with the fro.

12:41 Isn't he the president of the White House Correspondence

12:44 Association or the know who is right now. I think he is. And he was like, well, just because you want it in the ballroom doesn't mean we'll do it there.

12:53 Oh, you wanna make a bet?

12:55 You wanna make a bet that you'll all be dressed up in your tuxedos and your nightgowns like, oh, yeah, we're going into the into the big ballroom. Of course, you will. So this Yeah. It's where you do it. You wanna do it in the something fancy, not, you know, hotels

13:09 Yeah. You know, hotel

13:12 one of those hotel ballrooms. Yes. Exactly. Which is obvious. With the walls that they slide, you know. Like a sliding walls.

13:19 So then from the from the early morning sweep of the news,

13:23 just a couple clips here. John Carl from ABC personalizes this. John, your phone rang early this morning? Yeah. My my phone rang shortly after 7AM.

13:33 My landline, George, actually a number that few people call, and it was president Trump

13:38 calling. He was he said, at first, was calling to see if I was okay with what happened last night. Are you okay?

13:45 And then he he reiterated

13:47 many of the things he said in his press conference last night, emphasizing

13:51 the unity that he felt in that moment

13:54 that that he felt at the dinner before

13:57 the shooting and certainly after with the people who reached out to him. And he said, absolutely, and he was quite firm about this, that dinner must be rescheduled.

14:08 It must be rescheduled. He knows that I was a former president of the White House Correspondents Association and worked with him on a dinner that never actually happened back during COVID,

14:18 and he he was saying we've got to get this dinner back on. It has to happen. So I think this was an interesting turn

14:25 of vibe regarding the president and the and the press corps.

14:30 Yeah. He turned it into a very positive thing.

14:34 Although Margaret Brennan, of course, had to be the first one to make the pivot. A night to celebrate the first amendment

14:41 abruptly ended by a gunman permitted by the second amendment to own those weapons. There it is. Gun violence is not new in America,

14:50 but the threat of violence is now a cost of public life.

14:54 It permeates our politics.

14:57 Last month, Supreme Court justice Roberts publicly appealed for personal attacks on judges to stop.

15:03 US marshals report there were 564

15:06 threats last year

15:08 and nearly 15,000

15:10 against lawmakers,

15:11 staff, and their families according to US Capitol Police.

15:16 Multiple chief cabinet member

15:18 So a threat has got something to do with the second amendment?

15:24 You're trying to bring logic into her, monologue?

15:27 That that's that's a mistake. Saying she's talking about threat. She's not talking about gun violence. No. But she's talking about gun violence at the base. Their her basic thesis. So so she this is a a very poor argument.

15:42 The correct.

15:44 Yes. It is. Lawmakers, staff, and their families according to US Capitol Police.

15:50 Multiple Trump cabinet members now live on military bases for their own protection. Oh, I've never heard this.

15:58 Who lives on a military base for their protection? Well, this needs to be looked into.

16:03 No such fortress for the federal and state officials who face Fortress? Growing number of threats in communities across the country.

16:10 There's a marked increase in harassment and threats of physical violence to journalists in The US Oh, no. From the very public they are working to inform. As the nation wonders have to inform the next gunman out, let's also reflect on how we let this hate in,

16:28 how we stop it from corroding our democracy

16:31 and grasp onto our civility

16:34 before we lose it. Hate is a part of democracy, lady. What are you talking about?

16:39 That's how it works. Oh, we can't hate. Well, start with yourself. Can't hate. Can't hate. And then the final one is

16:48 about this this alleged shooter. So the alleged shooter, as we just said, had multiple weapons in his possession. Here in the District Of Columbia, open carry is not permitted. You just said he traveled from California across the country by train.

17:03 At this point,

17:05 are you thinking at the federal level of changing security protocols in any way to, for example, match

17:13 on trains what you are expected to go through when you fly, where you do have to declare a weapon when you Remember Obama did that? Remember they had TSA at the trains?

17:24 I thought they were I thought they had, Obama was bragging about they weren't doing TSA on the trains.

17:30 But then, no. He he was saying that you don't have to take your shoe, take your shoes off, but then you did.

17:37 That was the whole I don't remember that. Yes. That was the whole joke of it. They had these teams on the platforms

17:43 after Obama had said over and over about high speed rail, you don't have to take your shoes off. Yeah. I should be brave. Yeah. So now they're trying to bring that back. Oh, yeah. Trains. Trains dangerous. Well, you do have to declare a weapon when you cross state lines. How did he travel by train without

17:59 any challenge and arrive here in the nation's capital?

18:03 You've gone from state to state, haven't you? Yes. In the car. Where do you where where would you declare this weapon? Well, Margaret Did have a a

18:11 spot there that I mean, they do actually going into California, they do have to to declare vegetables

18:17 that you bring across the state line. Yeah. But would you say, hey. What you got what do you got with you? You got you got a palm tree,

18:24 and a 30 odd six. What?

18:30 Yeah.

18:31 No. Of course not. I mean, when maybe you stop at those truck weighing stations, I'm always curious about. I'm always curious. To get out of here, your car. Any

18:41 challenge and arrive here in the nation's capital.

18:44 And look. This isn't about, in my mind, changing the law or making the laws more restrictive around,

18:50 possession of firearms. It appears he purchased these firearms the past couple years.

18:54 We don't know how those firearms ended up in his possession in DC. We can we can make some assumptions based upon what I just said about how nothing. DC,

19:03 but I don't, I I don't think the narrative here is about changing laws or changing making making our laws more restrictive.

19:11 This is about law enforcement who are doing their jobs and and and a suspect who who tried to do something and and failed miserably. Yeah.

19:18 Alright. And there's your emergency pod, everybody.

19:22 Failed miserably.

19:23 I have the guys there there there was a manifesto that that appeared on LinkedIn.

19:28 On LinkedIn? This is the new manifesto posting spot?

19:32 Well, it seemed to be where somebody posted it. And

19:37 he goes on about using

19:39 buckshot and having different targets and who's not targets. Yeah. No. His his brother,

19:45 I think his hold on. I think I have it here. His

19:49 yeah. Here we go. CBS. Multiple sources tell CBS News,

19:54 that the gunman told law enforcement he was targeting Trump administration officials. Sources

19:59 say

20:00 that Allen's brother had also alerted local police

20:04 of alleged alarming writings that he shared with the family prior to the incident.

20:10 Yeah. I think that's what this message is. Video reveals the moment the 31 year old suspect sprinted past a security checkpoint,

20:18 charging toward the ballroom where president Trump, cabinet officials, and roughly 2,500

20:23 guests were assembled. It is clear based upon what we know so far that this individual was intent on doing as much harm and as much damage Did you see judge Janine in her nightie?

20:36 She was wearing a, you know, a very sheer dress. As he could. Oh, yeah.

20:42 Inappropriate.

20:43 But it was a long shot. Almost age inappropriate. Ellen, a teacher from Southern California, opened fire at a uniformed division officer of the US Secret Service

20:52 before agents tackled him to the ground handcuffing him. He was armed with a shotgun,

20:58 a handgun,

20:59 and multiple knives.

21:00 As he ran through that checkpoint, members of law enforcement from the United States Secret Service intercepted that individual. I'm still a little skeptical about the Secret Service agent being shot.

21:10 I'm thinking that was Crossfire

21:13 or

21:14 someone else accidentally shot him. I don't know if this guy even got a shot or saw not.

21:18 That video. It looked like he shot him to me and he he says in his note that he expects the Secret Service guys, he doesn't wanna kill them, but and he expects them to be wearing bulletproof armor. Mhmm. So he then he shot him right in the right in the armor. Oh, okay. So you saw that on the video?

21:35 Yeah. It looked pretty clear. I mean, I could be wrong, but it was it was so fast because the guy's running like a son of a bitch. He starts running and the guy comes, you know, tries to moves toward him and he shoots him. Can we in this day and age of 48 megapixel phones,

21:51 can we can

21:52 we possibly get better video? I mean, I One twenty by one twenty is not good enough? That was like see you see me video. Ho, call back.

22:03 Seriously, it's that it's ridiculous.

22:05 It's like, you don't have to it doesn't have to be black and white and 10 frames a second because of disk space anymore.

22:13 Come on. You're you're that's an absolute

22:16 yes. The it that I don't like that. They have cameras on phones that are little bitty things that have better imagery than that. I mean, I've I've got, I hung up three cameras here at the house

22:28 at my wife's insistence

22:30 and it's great, you know, and yeah, and like, of course, you never catch anything. Oh, Well, there's the UPS guy,

22:37 you know, and and you get an alert and you can go, oh, look, I can see the UPS guy. He's it follows him, it tracks him, of this stationary

22:45 bull crap. So how can I have a better system at home than the system in the Hilton Hotel that is meant to

22:53 provide evidence for

22:55 calamity?

22:57 Yeah.

22:58 I I this

23:00 That's not as though these cameras are expensive.

23:02 It just doesn't make any sense. I mean I mean, the olden days, yeah, maybe you had to pay a couple $100 for for a

23:09 little camera for a security system. Now they're

23:12 you know,

23:15 the Logitech webcam has got HD, and it's like, you know, $40. I mean, give me a break.

23:24 I'm gonna read from the note here that this guy said because I thought this was because they had Jamie Raskin on one of the shows this morning, and Oh, Dana

23:32 Bash says to him, so don't you think the rhetoric maybe has a little bit to do with this? I mean, and and Raskin goes, what what do you mean? There's no way and

23:42 then he says, well, people have been saying, you know, they say all this stuff. He says, I don't know. I like Trump. He's a good guy. No. Raskin said that? Basically.

23:49 Oh, that's hilarious.

23:51 So this guy writes this because he's going on and That's funny. Is, hello everybody is the way he starts it off. He this is the part that got me. He says, I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile

24:02 rapist

24:03 and traitor

24:06 to,

24:07 to to coat my hands with his crimes. Wait. Who said this? The guy, the the shooter. Oh, this is from his note. In his note. Oh.

24:16 Oh, wow. So, you mean, he's just triggered by you know, it was, you know, the propaganda you have out there, and he's in California, he lives in Torrance,

24:24 you know, is loaded with this sort of thing. Yeah.

24:28 And at the end of the note, says, would still go through he talks about be expected to be shot. Does this mean? What does it mean coat my hands?

24:36 I don't know what coat his hands means either. Can we ask the book of knowledge? Let me ask the book of knowledge. Book of knowledge, what does coat my hands mean as a phrase?

24:47 Book of knowledge. Don't let me down book of knowledge.

24:54 Now it says quote my hands. Forget about it. According to the book of knowledge quote my hands refers to the quote my hands. Alright. Good job book of knowledge. Back in your back in your hovel.

25:06 Sorry.

25:09 So continue.

25:10 Well, anyway, at the very end he says I would still go on I

25:14 would still go through most

25:16 everyone here to get to the targets if I were absolutely

25:20 if it was absolutely necessary in the basis that most people

25:23 chose to attend a speech by a pedophile,

25:27 rapist, and traitor. There you go. With the same three words in the same order.

25:32 And are are there complete and

25:36 are thus

25:38 complicit.

25:39 But I really hope it doesn't come to that.

25:42 Well, that's more that's than more One more thing I'll just mention from this note. Mhmm. He says administration

25:49 this I find this peculiar.

25:52 He said he he obviously who the targets are. He says administration

25:56 officials

25:57 not

25:58 including mister Patel.

26:01 They are targets

26:02 prioritized from the highest ranking to the lowest. Well, that's interesting.

26:07 Not What does that mean? Patel is like enemy number two on the list these days.

26:16 That is that's a clue about this guy one way or the other, don't you think? I don't know. I think it is.

26:26 So

26:30 anyway, this whole thing is, you know,

26:34 what it is. Do you get any Alex Jones stuff? Because I have some, I actually have some Alex Jones clips that are different. They're about the SPLC. Oh, I I I actually I'm been looking for I saw saw them come in. I haven't obviously, haven't looked at,

26:48 haven't looked at you. Haven't listened to your clips. But before you do the SPLC, I have a boots on the ground from Dame Rhonda about the SPLC,

26:58 which was interesting.

27:00 Okay.

27:01 She says the SPLC represented the plaintiff Ricky Wyatt against the Alabama Department of Mental Health

27:07 originated when first lady Lurleen Wallace visited Bryce Hospital in Tuscaloosa and was appalled at the conditions. What happened? This is a case that lasted many years, judge Thompson issued a mandate. If the state was going to run a mental health system, certain standards had to be met and funded.

27:23 If the state could not afford the standards, it would not have a mental system mental health system. The result is that the standards were so high and therefore so costly that Alabama opted out of providing mental health care.

27:35 And the ripple effect was that most every other state in the nation over time relied on that case from Alabama to justify their decision

27:43 not to fund mental health care in this Wow. That's a good one. So Dame Rhonda works or worked in a law office in Alabama. One of the attorneys who represented Alabama

27:53 in the final years of that litigation

27:55 is her boss. He's 88 years old, still comes into the office office daily in his opinion because it was the SPLC

28:02 that argued that.

28:04 He says the SPLC

28:06 is responsible

28:07 for getting rid of mental health facilities in America and he still blames them for that.

28:13 Well, he's probably right. Yeah. That's so typical.

28:18 Anyway, clips on Unintended consequences.

28:21 Yeah.

28:23 So Jones is talking about, you know, who's running the world.

28:28 New world order.

28:30 I said Trying I'm reading

28:32 to kill us all. You're gonna kill us all. And the problem is he's he's kinda wandering.

28:36 I mean, it's like,

28:39 he's not as focused as he should be. So

28:42 I got three clips, but I thought they were interesting because I wanted to ask you if you could decode what he's actually saying here. Of course. I can do that. I'm do that for you. Alright. Clip one. The ADL in Southern Property Law Center and the Democrats and the globalists in the same system run all over the Western world would have you believe is secretly running everything. Reality, it's a bunch of globalist mad scientists creating a giant AI

29:03 cyborg mass neural network

29:05 known as the intergalactic communication system. Not just saying that. Look that up. Oh. Oh. Oh. He he forgot to add XRP.

29:13 So I looked it up.

29:15 Yeah. You read their documents. What did you find?

29:18 The what is he talking about? That that was kind of a joke that was done in the sixties

29:25 by a scientist who's who's

29:27 largely, responsible for starting or getting ARPANET going and getting the Internet started

29:32 back in the sixties,

29:34 and he he made this comment

29:36 about the intergalactic blah blah blah. Who which scientist was that? Linklater.

29:42 Linklater is a very famous guy. Mhmm. You can look it up, but you you can look it up.

29:48 The intergalactic,

29:49 you have to look play it again so I can get it clear, but,

29:54 control intergalactic

29:55 control let me hear it again. Hold on a second. Running everything. Reality, it's a bunch of globalist mad scientists creating a giant AI cyborg mass neural network

30:05 known as the intergalactic communication system. Not just Intergalactic communication system.

30:09 Yeah. You can ask the Yeah. Oh, here we go. We go. Here we go. Tell me about the intergalactic

30:15 communication system.

30:17 Now this should be interesting.

30:21 You know, the Book of Knowledge doesn't look at Wikipedia.

30:24 It has its own sources.

30:26 According to the Book of Knowledge,

30:28 term intergalactic

30:29 communication

30:30 system may refer to either the historical concept or modern theoretical approaches.

30:36 J. C. R. Licklider at ARPA used intergalactic

30:39 computer network in the nineteen sixties to describe his vision of a networked computing system that would eventually become the Internet.

30:48 Actual intergalactic

30:49 communication,

30:51 neutrinos are proposed as optimal due to their penetrating nature unlike

30:55 electric Okay. I get it. Okay.

30:58 Well,

31:00 that's Look it up, he says. Well, that's what the, that's what the Internet originally was before it all consolidated and was all run by Cloudflare.

31:10 It's gatekeepers. The gatekeepers for AT and T. Yeah. It was a distributed network. Everyone mean Well, yes. Let's we might as well mention that. It was designed,

31:20 not as intergalactic bullcrap,

31:23 but it was designed to be a communication system that could withstand a nuclear

31:29 attack.

31:30 Yes. And and the whole idea was And it went from college to college to college. It was mostly through the universities. Yes. And the whole concept of TCP IP

31:40 was

31:40 that traffic would route around an outage.

31:44 At one point, I had my own

31:48 c class network. I, you know, I had a I had an actual

31:51 like a big piece of at the time, a a big piece of the Internet

31:56 and then the problems came in with peering because that was always the idea of the

32:03 the, you know, the

32:06 the philosophy

32:07 of it was well, you know, if if traffic has to route around something and I have to route traffic from you then that's okay because I'll

32:16 you will route traffic for me and it's called the peering system

32:20 and I believe it was Enron

32:22 that screwed that all up

32:24 by saying, hey, this is worth money, this peering system and you should be charging

32:29 and then as more and more networks got rolled up like MFS and you know, AT and T and Verizon and more it became more and more centralized now yeah. Now it's just basically Well, I'm not sure Enron was I I didn't hear that. But What? But I know that Enron had anything to do with it being Enron. Yeah. Yes. Enron was doing bandwidth trading with peering. I know this. I I was Why why was Enron, a power company involved with any of this? Because they were a scam. I rem I'll tell you the story. No. I know they were a scam. Let tell you the story.

33:00 So we had bank Think New Ideas, public company. We had Bankers Trust, another fine outfit,

33:07 who

33:08 had a huge derivatives issue at some point. But anyway, they were our client and we were building

33:14 online network trading desks for them, which is really no more than a web interface to

33:21 to

33:22 what was the Adobe?

33:24 Adobe had some kind of, I forget what it's called, not

33:28 they had some kind of component, some kind of desktop

33:31 like Microsoft

33:33 meeting point or something at the time, I forget what it's called. And so our system would connect to that and would pick up excel spreadsheets and turn them into web pages and

33:43 maybe a year or so after one of the VPs

33:46 had left and went to Enron and he's in that movie in the you know, was it the smartest guys in the room? I don't think he went to jail, he probably went to Columbia.

33:55 And he came in and said, hey,

33:57 listen. He was all hyped up and you know drinking his diet coke and all hyped up and listen, I need you guys to build a trading desk because we're gonna do a a bandwidth trading and listen, it doesn't actually have to do anything. It just has to look impressive.

34:10 It's just that we just wanna have lots of monitors that look like it's doing something with bandwidth trading.

34:15 We passed on the opportunity.

34:18 But that's what they were doing. It was fictitious. It was as much bullcrap as their energy trading was.

34:25 Mosaic.

34:26 That's thank you. Mosaic. Was it Mosaic? No. No. That wasn't Mosaic. No. Mosaic. No.

34:31 It was Yes.

34:33 The InRun broadband scandal forgotten half of InRun's scam.

34:38 So to the point well, the thing was is that

34:41 the original concept,

34:43 which is this routing all over the place,

34:45 you know, then once it started becoming commercialized,

34:48 when somebody decided let's do an Internet, let the public in on it, they demanded better

34:53 you know you know, they they didn't want this these things do you remember there used to be some programs you could they used to I can't remember the name of them, but they would they're tray they're tracers,

35:04 And you'd hit trace this connection. They would go from here to there to here to there. Trace route. Trace route. Trace route. And it would show a million things. Hops. How many hops you got? And then AT and T and all the big boys just decided, hey. You know, we can make some money doing this. Yeah. They said, why we what why bother? Why don't we just you hook to me directly and pretty soon there was, two backbones That was And all the major hubs like May East, May West, and all the rest of them were kinda left in the dust. That's right.

35:33 Yeah. It just So it's not anything like it was designed to be. I mean, if there No. Was an And now and now literally all servers are proxied by Cloudflare. So when Cloudflare goes down That's right. The whole world got in the way. The whole world collapses.

35:47 Yeah. Just Yeah. Yeah. Bomb the offices in San Francisco and we're ready to go.

35:53 Anyway, so, yes. Are we on to clip two?

35:57 Yeah. Now now it becomes

36:00 it becomes a little loony. Planning to depopulate almost all of us.

36:05 They tell the mid level people the world they're gonna kill 90%, but really they they plan to kill 99%.

36:09 Call it Nazi, whatever you want. The Nazis had their own competing plan. They talked about it in Nuremberg. They

36:14 Margaret Sanger, the the British Eugenics Society,

36:17 we're just following that plan. That's what's at the top of this. And it's so big that my dad was planned too, as I've told you many times. In high school, going to UT, because he was top of his class, some of the top test scores in the state. He was winning all the science, you know,

36:31 fairs and stuff. At 14, they recruit him. They know this is a feeder to NASA. Eisenhower's,

36:36 whiz kid program. He's really

36:39 conflating a lot of different things here.

36:42 Yeah. And his timeline goes off a little bit too. He's

36:45 he's talking about his dad now who became a dentist.

36:48 He

36:50 I looked him up and he was like born in 1950.

36:53 The the timeline doesn't work unless the dad was born in 1942,

36:58 which is possible.

37:00 Mhmm. Because he's saying that he was 14 when Eisenhower,

37:04 you know, created the the whiz there was a moment in

37:08 during the fifties,

37:09 once Sputnik was launched, Eisenhower

37:13 put the, you know, put the hammer down and said, we're turning all our kids into scientists.

37:19 And

37:20 that was in '57,

37:22 not '56.

37:24 And,

37:26 so the timeline doesn't match. He's kind of unless the dad was born in '42 the way I see. But the SPLC didn't come around until '67.

37:35 Yeah. Yeah. He's kind of gone off already off the rails, and he's talking about something about

37:41 depopulation.

37:42 He started it was Kennedy. And my dad started this, and it wasn't NASA, folks. And a couple years into it,

37:50 he gets called in by the head of the body department who was the head of plan two, who's Jewish, professor Spear. Oh, Jew. My dad didn't tell me this till he saw Endgame right before it came out in my office with my mother. My mother looked at my dad and said, David, this can't be true.

38:04 And he started talking for about twenty minutes. He said, you know, Spear, because he met her at UT, know, when used to have dinner over his house. Yeah. And, you know, yeah, took Bonnie for me. Yeah. Yeah. We used have dinner with him. Yeah.

38:14 Well, he called me in and said, of the plan two people, you have you are the best, and you've been selected. And this is when he was about 17.

38:23 He didn't meet her till about a year later when she got there. And,

38:26 you know, Hitler was a eugenicist and we don't support targeting just one group, but it is it is eugenics and then that that's what this is. And we're we're gonna set up a world government and we're gonna depopulate people. And my dad said, well, I'll still be friends with you, but I really don't wanna be in this program.

38:40 I

38:41 mean, Eugenics,

38:42 is he confused with Planned Parenthood somehow that he's calling about?

38:46 I I don't understand.

38:48 No. You no. He's

38:51 just rambling.

38:52 Then here we go to the third clip, which is even more confusing.

38:55 And, they said, well, you know, we we had another program you you want you to be part of, and that was even worse. He said he wouldn't say what that was. And then he said, I'm just gonna go to Baylor Medical and get a dental degree, and I'm out of this. And

39:10 he never told me the rest of it, but they didn't basically let him get out of it quite yet.

39:15 Let's just leave it at that. That's how real I know this all is. So at the top, there's not a Christian Adventures Club of Nazis meeting. Okay?

39:24 There's people

39:26 that put poison shots in the public, and I got news on this coming up that's beyond huge. We just got numb to it though. Congressional hearings where they have the CDC head documents

39:35 that, oh, it's killed masses of people including children. It doesn't work. It destroys immune systems. So let's let's accelerate it. I have the congressional hearings. We're gonna play clips. Oh, and their the young people are dying, and when they cut them open, their entire

39:49 organs are filled with spike protein, including no sperm,

39:53 but spike protein that's grown in the testicles. It's where it goes, the ovaries and testicles.

39:58 So that when you're having sex with a woman, you've had it, you're now injecting her with this that goes into her ovaries

40:03 and sterilizes you. That's one of its main functions.

40:05 Nanotech, self replicating

40:07 HIV spike protein. That is a fact. Yes.

40:11 Okay. I'm I'm down with all that. But what does that have to do with SPLC?

40:14 This is what I don't understand.

40:17 That's the that's the I've been He's he's he's doing the by the way, you know, the weave. Dipshit

40:22 in the in the troll room.

40:24 We're not conspiracy deniers. We're denying that Alex Jones has any sanity about him right now. This has nothing to do with SPLC.

40:33 SPLC was a dynamite

40:35 idea,

40:36 a great marketing idea.

40:38 And it really started,

40:40 back when

40:41 what was the SLSP?

40:43 There was some other

40:45 there was some other,

40:49 anti KKK group

40:51 and this was it Morris

40:53 Dees, I think? Morris Dees was the head of the SPLC.

40:57 Yeah. He's so he started SPLC.

40:59 He's like, this is a great gambit.

41:02 We're gonna we're gonna do this.

41:04 And people actually thinking they were donating to this other group and so they kind of grew that way. I was Sorry?

41:10 It well, I it was pretty creative. I I thought it was there's a note of genius about the whole thing. I I wanna play one more thing, which is Stassel's report, which was in the early two thousands on the SPLC when he was still working for ABC.

41:25 Mhmm. John Stassel had a show. He was, you know, It was it was good. It was good. And I don't even know why Well, he's still good. I'm Why did he leave ABC? Because he he does YouTubes of his stuff now, doesn't he? Yeah. Yeah. He does. It's pretty much like his old show, but I don't know why they got rid of him. I

41:42 I I think it was because he turned a little too right wing.

41:47 Oh, yeah. But Yeah. It was during the woke period. Yeah. And that was, you know, ABC and Yeah. Gotta gotta get rid of him. Yeah. Gotta get rid of him. So this is from his old show. There

41:59 are dangerous hate groups in America

42:01 who will warn us about them. The media haven't answered. The Southern Poverty Law Center. The Southern Poverty Law Center. The Southern Poverty Law Center based in that building in Alabama calls itself the premier group monitoring

42:16 hate groups.

42:18 Looking at their map of such groups, you'd think America was consumed by hate.

42:23 I once believed in the center's mission. Well meaning people still do. Apple just gave them a million dollars.

42:29 But what donors don't know is that today the center smears people who don't deserve to be smeared. The presence of radical Islam. This woman grew up in Somalia, suffered female genital mutilation.

42:43 So now she speaks out against radical Islam.

42:46 For that, the center put her on its list. Multiculturalism

42:50 failed these communities.

42:51 This man was once an Islamic extremist,

42:54 but then he decided radical Islam was wrong and now he criticizes the radicals.

43:00 The center labels him an anti Muslim extremist too.

43:05 Join the fight against hate and bigotry. Visit splcenter.org.

43:09 I do think that we have a problem with hate in this country. We put about 10 of these major hate groups out of business. The center's leaders, Richard Cohen and Morris Dees, would not talk to me. So commentator,

43:21 Noamiki Countess, stepped up to defend them. They have a history, a long history of fighting against extremists like the KKK.

43:27 Years ago, Harper's Magazine reported that the center is the wealthiest civil rights group in America,

43:33 one that spent most of its time and money on a fundraising campaign.

43:38 Now Morris Dees did once promise to stop fundraising once his endowment hit $55,000,000.

43:45 Yeah. But when he reached 55,000,000,

43:48 he changed that to a 100,000,000 saying that would allow them to cease costly fundraising.

43:54 But when they reached a 100,000,000,

43:56 they didn't stop.

43:59 The cake so the I guess their main claim is they bankrupted the KKK.

44:04 And that was it. That was the only thing people can ever say that they did.

44:08 Because that's all they did. After that it was, as you I think pointed out on the last show, it was like the the NAN from Sharpton, you know. It's like, we're gonna put you on this list until you donate and we'll take you off the list.

44:21 And so they I think that at the time he did this report, was the 350,000,000

44:27 as the endowment. I think it's a billion. Now isn't it a billion? No. No. It's 900,000,000.

44:33 Yeah. It's almost a billion. Yes.

44:36 Wait.

44:36 Play on. Today,

44:38 they have an endowment that, now is over $320,000,000,

44:43 much of which is in offshore accounts, Caymans, and places like that. How do you know? Oh, we look at their September. And it says Cayman Islands? Yeah. They pay some of their people more than 400 thou a year.

44:55 Well, it you know, it's 2,017.

44:57 It costs a lot of money to exist in this world. 2017. The Southern Poverty Law Center now lists people like Ben Carson, Laura Ingram, and Jeannie Puro as extremists.

45:07 But it doesn't list Antifa,

45:09 the hate group that beats up people on the right. What?

45:14 The center's become a hate group itself.

45:16 It's now a left wing money grabbing

45:19 slander machine. Nice.

45:21 Stassel.

45:22 Way to go.

45:24 Yeah. Well, and we've been saying this for

45:27 at least fifteen years if you know everybody's everybody's

45:30 been spiking the ball on this. Yeah. But we Including us. But we had proof.

45:35 Well, so did, I mean,

45:38 Alex Jones did the same thing, you know, but they there was one guy, and I can't remember his name, but he had he was he picked up on this in the nineties.

45:47 The Stossil report was from 2017.

45:49 Wow.

45:51 I mean, right at the get go, he saw it saw it coming down Broadway. You know So I mean, it's obvious. And then meanwhile, you have guys like Chris Cuomo coming on and defending

46:00 them. No. I don't have a clip. No. I I have an MS Now clip.

46:06 And during this segment, I didn't clip it, they had,

46:10 SPLC donation ads running during this segment.

46:13 The indictment is nakedly political

46:16 and it's Naked. Nakedly. From attorney Nakedly. On itself.

46:21 Haven't heard I haven't heard nakedly in a long time. Let's hear that again. The indictment

46:26 is nakedly political.

46:28 Nakedly. And it's the justice department turning on itself.

46:32 For years, federal law enforcement worked with the Southern Poverty Law Center

46:37 to ferret out

46:38 hate groups and domestic terrorist groups.

46:41 And recently, the justice department canceled its relationship with the Southern Poverty Law Center. So the government has been intimately involved

46:49 in what the Southern Poverty Law Center has done, which has been an important public service, and that is to ferret out these hate groups, these domestic terrorist groups, these antisemitic

47:00 groups.

47:01 And this justice department once again is furthering this pattern and practice of an assault

47:08 on civil rights through frivolous,

47:11 politically motivated

47:12 indictments. Think of Comey. Think of,

47:15 the attorney general in New York. Oh, yeah. That that okay.

47:20 I'm not sure how that has anything to do with it.

47:26 Yeah. They're grasping at straws.

47:28 I think these guys are toast.

47:30 Oh, well, yes. And did you see that,

47:35 Gay General,

47:36 Patton has now said that they're going to change the rules about the form nine ninety? I've been a form nine ninety reader from day one on You're the you're the form nine ninety guy. I'll show you. This is your thing. I love the form nine nineties.

47:50 But they there's never a disclosure

47:53 of who gave the money.

47:55 And now they're going to change those rules that the that nonprofits

47:59 have to

48:01 list and I there may be a level that they have to put in there. I'm not sure how they're gonna do it because it will be quite burdensome, you know,

48:10 can do it for every $5. Right? No. Like, know, Ronald McDonald House charities, you know, if they have they'd have to have

48:17 pages and pages of supplemental data, maybe.

48:20 And a lot of people,

48:22 individuals

48:23 give money and don't necessarily want to be known, but that may no longer be possible. But they're definitely going to say, hey, you've gotta disclose where your money's coming from.

48:34 So

48:35 and that's how that's how I always question, did Apple put out a press release that they were they were donating a million dollars to the SPLC? Probably did.

48:43 We're good people.

48:46 We hate Nazis.

48:47 We're Apple.

48:49 Something like that. Apple.

48:52 So

48:53 I'm still, you know, irked about the I mean, at you know, Tim Cook is leaving.

48:58 Yes.

49:00 And they're bringing a new guy, and this is the follows the old pattern where Steve Jobs gave the company over to Scully.

49:05 Scully,

49:06 even though people don't remember this, John Scully racked it up.

49:10 He I think he quadrupled

49:12 and or more of the net sales

49:15 and,

49:17 over what Jobs was able to do. And then when he was pushed out,

49:23 it it was a disaster.

49:25 One loser after another came in.

49:29 I see the kind of I I could be wrong.

49:33 Maybe I'm an optimist,

49:34 but I see the same thing happening again.

49:37 Yeah. See, I because well, first of all, there's two problems.

49:42 We had Steve Jobs,

49:44 Tim Cook,

49:45 now we have John but the guy has two syllables in his last name. What what is his last name?

49:50 I don't know. Exactly.

49:52 Two syllables. Can't remember the guy's name. So that's already a a minus point.

49:57 But

49:58 he's the hardware guy.

50:00 And Yeah. And the way I see AI going running locally on local machines

50:06 by happenstance

50:07 or maybe by design the Apple universal memory on their their you're

50:13 more optimistic about sound.

50:16 Let me finish the argument. No one's heard this. Well, I'm gonna just say in advance that I'm not gonna argue against you. Well, what you could do is let me finish and then are not argue and that would achieve the same thing without the interruption. Yeah. Not would be less dramatic.

50:28 This is correct.

50:30 The Apple, like the Mac mini has become the darling machine for Open Claw.

50:37 Not that it really does that well and not that people are running local models, but like the Mac Studio

50:42 with, you know, loaded up to the to the gills with RAM, people are running local AI models quite successfully on that. The the Apple chip and the iPhone also has some,

50:53 capabilities.

50:54 I think they're way ahead of the game where AMD is doing this with their chips now, the was it the Ryzen chip, I think?

51:01 So I think the local inference of AI may be a winner for Apple long term,

51:07 in particular because they didn't do what everyone else has done is cram their full their phones full of AI garbage.

51:15 I mean, so I have this Samsung

51:17 and, you know, I just I just want a phone. It doesn't have to do much, you know, I don't I really don't do much with it. I have my my my,

51:25 Graphene OS phone for other things.

51:28 But then all of a sudden it pops up, hi, I'm Bixby.

51:31 Do you want to me to listen to you for your every command without you touching the phone? Like, no, I don't. Oh, my phone literally just lit up when I said that.

51:40 I said, no, I don't want that installed. Just lit up. It keeps popping up. Hi, I'm Bixby.

51:46 Bixby is here to help you. Who's Bixie? Bixby is their Siri, is their whatever.

51:52 Bixby.

51:54 That's as gay Bixby. That's as gay as ass Jeeves.

51:58 Bixby.

51:59 Hello. I'm Bixby.

52:01 I should install it just to hear how lame it is.

52:04 You know, so that's Yeah. You should. You maybe could compete with the Book of Knowledge robot. Nothing can compete with the Book of Knowledge robot. Nothing competes with that.

52:12 So I so I have a feeling Apple could come out a huge winner

52:16 but

52:17 that all really depends on what kind of

52:20 snazzy stuff they can they can I mean, for their for their desktops maybe?

52:24 I don't think they're I don't know about the phones or anything like that. I don't know if any of the if anyone cares about this stuff at all. I'll tell you this,

52:31 Anthropic has has yanked the rug

52:34 what used to be your $20 a month.

52:37 Well, now you're really paying a $100 a month if you wanna get the same amount of time and tokens and usage. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. And you're $100 a month, now you gotta pay $200

52:48 a month.

52:49 There's people at the side of the street with tin cups going, hey, man. I just need some tokens. Give me some tokens, man. I need some tokens real bad.

52:58 The way Anthropic does Claude code,

53:01 so you have a monthly

53:03 a weekly usage for your 20, 100 or $200,

53:08 a month account,

53:10 but then they have per day

53:12 you can only do so many hours consecutively

53:15 and then then it has to reset and you have to wait.

53:19 And that can be like a three or four hour wait before you're allowed to use it again.

53:24 That makes you take a break.

53:26 Well,

53:27 of course, then they give you the extra usage that you can buy credits for which goes at about $2 every thirty seconds.

53:36 You know, they're giving away they're this this is the IPO on the way.

53:41 I

53:42 think that Trying to balance the books and invent the Yes.

53:46 If you have a $100 account, you're probably getting $2,000

53:49 worth of credits.

53:52 This is a problem.

53:54 I don't know if they're gonna fix it.

53:57 Well, let's see how the IPO does. They only have one AI story, not you brought up AI. No, you got an AI story? Mhmm. Yeah. It's the one about the Florida state shooting.

54:08 Yeah. There's a there's a couple. I actually have a story about this.

54:12 Is this OpenAI story? Is that what this is? This is AI Florida.

54:16 The state of Florida is opening a criminal

54:18 into OpenAI

54:20 because a suspect allegedly used its chatbot to help plan a mass school shooting. Two people died and five were wounded on the Florida State University campus last year. From WFSU

54:31 in Tallahassee,

54:32 Tristan Wood reports.

54:33 Florida attorney general James Uthmeyer says an initial review of chat logs shows that gunman Phoenix Eichner consulted chat GBT

54:41 for advice over 200 times. My prosecutors have looked at this, and they've told me if it was a person

54:49 on the other end of that screen, we would be charging them with murder. He says the logs show Eichner asking what type of gun to use, what ammo went with it, what time to go to campus to encounter the most people, and more. Now, of course, Chad GPT is not a person,

55:05 but that does not absolve

55:08 our office,

55:09 my prosecution team, of our duty to investigate whether or not there is criminal culpability here

55:15 for a corporation.

55:16 An OpenAI spokesperson called the FSU shooting a tragedy,

55:20 but says the company is not responsible.

55:23 The company says Chad GPT gave the kind of factual responses to questions

55:28 that could be found anywhere on the Internet. During the press conference, Uthmaier acknowledged it is unclear if his team would be able to identify anyone to criminally charge. We're at the beginning, so I don't know what the intentions of design were. I don't know what people knew and and at what time, but I hope that we are able to get those answers. OpenAI maintains they voluntarily gave the information about the shooter's chat logs to law enforcement

55:52 and will continue to cooperate with authorities.

55:55 While this is the first criminal probe from a state attorney general, the AI company has been the target of several recent civil lawsuits,

56:02 including one centered on its involvement in a suicide case. Yeah. This this is an interesting listen, it's a set of cases.

56:10 What preceded

56:11 the Florida

56:14 FSU shooting is the one in Canada. We begin with breaking news. Breaking. OpenAI

56:19 CEO Sam Altman has issued an apology to the community of Tumblr Ridge after failing to alert police about the shooter's concerning use of chat GPT.

56:30 Altman wrote, I am deeply sorry that we did not alert law enforcement to the account that was banned in June.

56:37 In February, an 18 year old shooter opened fire at Tumbler Ridge Secondary School,

56:42 killing eight people, including six school children before taking her own life. OpenAI,

56:48 the tech company behind ChatGPT,

56:50 was criticized after it was revealed the shooter's account was flagged for violating policies,

56:56 but authorities were never informed.

56:58 So what's interesting is the timeline

57:01 of OpenAI and their

57:04 safety team.

57:05 This is PBS. Current and former OpenAI employees has issued a public letter warning that the company and its rivals are building artificial intelligence

57:14 with undue risk and without sufficient oversight.

57:18 They're calling on leading artificial intelligence companies to be more transparent and provide stronger protections for whistleblowers.

57:24 It comes after OpenAI disbanded its team focused on long term AI risks and two leaders of that group have resigned.

57:32 We're joined now by NPR technology correspondent,

57:35 Bobby Allen, who's been covering all of these developments. Don't really need to hear the rest of the story other than before these shootings took place,

57:42 they were all saying, hey, this stuff is no good

57:45 and they got rid of the safety team and whoever was left resigned

57:49 from the safety team said no safety team.

57:53 Well, there's a couple of elements here of logic that kinda fascinate me.

57:59 One, the argument that, well,

58:01 the open eye is just saying, you know, it was not responsible in any way criminally because it's just reiterating what's what's out there in the public domain.

58:11 But isn't that wouldn't that be the same if I was asking you for advice and a gun,

58:15 and I was gonna go shoot up the Florida State campus and you told me this, that, and the other? Yeah. I think I think I'm gonna knock on the door.

58:23 Yeah. But but it's the same but the argument would be the same, which is that you're just telling me stuff that's out there on the Internet.

58:31 You're not giving me any information that, you know, that's not available in the public domain. So that argument, I think, is invalid. And the other one is I thought corporations were supposed to be deemed

58:42 as people.

58:43 And

58:45 so they're they're with the same rights and privileges. Mhmm. So shouldn't the corporation be locked up?

58:50 Yes. Shutters, in other words? I'm just it's just again I'm with you. I'm with you.

58:57 They pay taxes like a person.

58:59 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm with you on that.

59:03 The the problem that that OpenAI

59:06 has,

59:07 and I think Elon Musk has this too,

59:09 is they went all

59:11 consumer.

59:12 They wanted to

59:14 to

59:16 they're mentalists,

59:17 you know, it's like, come on. This is great, you got a buddy, you got a little Tamagotchi,

59:23 he grows with you, he remembers you, he loves you, he's gonna help you.

59:27 And Anthropic really didn't do that, they went code, we'll just make code, we're gonna get rid of you with code.

59:35 And so and Musk, all he ever if you look at his expos,

59:39 this is all AI and there's no one real in this video. Like, who cares?

59:44 And he always has these kind of like

59:46 semi

59:48 like

59:49 home Did you see the one Darren O'Neil did? No. But they had hometown American Girls, you know, all American Girls.

59:56 Darren O'Neil did a video promoting his seven hundredth show. Oh, yeah? And it's, you know, some hottie and Yeah. Somebody else talking about, let's tune in.

1:00:07 Yeah.

1:00:07 Breast falling out of her top. I

1:00:12 wonder what have you ever seen a picture of Darren? I wonder what he looks like. I know Yeah. There's a there's pictures of him floating around. I've never seen a picture. And in fact, I don't wanna see a picture of Darren. I have a picture in my mind.

1:00:23 Well, what's the picture in your mind? Well, he's very tall. I know think he's taller than I am. I think he's, you know, he's one of these chiseled jaw,

1:00:31 you know Oh, I yeah. Think Favio.

1:00:34 Yes.

1:00:38 That is the picture I have in my mind. Darren O'Neil is Favio.

1:00:44 Nailed it. Nailed it. But maybe with short hair.

1:00:48 Fabio.

1:00:49 Fabio with a b. Fabio. Yeah. No Fabio. Fabio. Fabio. To me. And and you know, he should never be seen. That that is the the theater of the mind. He just did his seven hundredth episode of the Rock and Roll pre show.

1:01:01 And he, you know, he is the quintessential

1:01:04 rock DJ.

1:01:05 Exactly what he shows in those videos in those those post. Yeah.

1:01:09 Well, he's like, you know, he's like a he's got a t shirt on. He's got,

1:01:13 you know, he's got a scruff beard.

1:01:15 All that's good looking. The jokes.

1:01:17 Yeah. Well, there's that and the good music.

1:01:20 Well, yeah. He plays nothing but live mixes that are

1:01:24 Well, no.

1:01:26 But he thinks that that that by playing live mixes somehow it's legal to play those.

1:01:33 That's the big joke. Yeah. Somehow because they're live Okay. Because they're live performances,

1:01:38 they're they're it's it's okay. Yeah. There's

1:01:40 no issue there. Take it. Yes.

1:01:44 Soon in jail.

1:01:48 Oh, man.

1:01:50 So King Charles is coming with Camilla. This is all very exciting people. Buckingham Palace releasing more trip details as King Charles the third and Queen Camilla prepare to visit The US later this month. Here's what we know. They'll start in Washington DC where president Trump will hold a welcome ceremony.

1:02:08 Then the king will address congress before a state banquet at the White House. They also plan to visit New York to commemorate victims of nine eleven. Next up, Virginia for a block party celebrating America's 200.

1:02:22 The palace says this trip is to recognize the shared history of our two nations on the anniversary

1:02:28 of the declaration

1:02:29 of independence. So they're literally going to the Yorktown Battlefield where George Washington

1:02:35 kicked the red coats.

1:02:37 I mean, this this is not a celebration for him. It doesn't sound like something you'd do. Well, I think Charles is here to negotiate the terms of surrender with Trump.

1:02:49 It's like, you're done Charles.

1:02:51 We got you. We got your banking connections to all the oil, to all the drugs, everything that you've been screwing with us for years, our special relationship,

1:03:00 or we're the dumb muscle for any war that you start,

1:03:04 and the Brits are not happy about this visit. I feel sorry for him going

1:03:09 and, you know, having sitting down to a state dinner with a man who has insulted the British troops in Afghanistan and said they weren't particularly important and weren't needed. Is it a good idea for the king to go to The United States next month? I think it's an acute embarrassment,

1:03:26 to tell the truth. No, I don't think it's a good idea,

1:03:29 and I was rather hoping that they

1:03:32 might find a way of dodging the column by postponing the visit while

1:03:37 what was going on in Iran was going on,

1:03:40 and say this is not perhaps an appropriate moment to go. I mean,

1:03:44 I pity the king I mean, he's at the mercy of the government, and the government says go, he goes.

1:03:50 Just like, remember, the Queen had to entertain Ceausescu,

1:03:54 a murderous dictator of That's job,

1:03:56 isn't Exactly, it's their job. But I feel

1:03:59 sorry for him going

1:04:01 and, you know, sitting down to a state dinner with a man who has insulted the British troops in Afghanistan, and some of them weren't particularly important and weren't needed, who's insulted I'm not talking about insulting the government, but insulted our Royal Navy, you know, to up his way to be rude about Britain and about NATO,

1:04:21 and who's a narcissist and a bully. He's a bully. There it is. He's a bully. He's a bully. Well, that was David

1:04:28 Dimbleby.

1:04:28 Here's Ed Davey. Prime minister's question time.

1:04:31 The speaker, in a phone call with Sky News last night,

1:04:35 president Trump has threatened to rip up his trade deal with The UK

1:04:40 as punishment

1:04:41 for us not joining his idiotic war in Iran.

1:04:45 Mister speaker, this must be the last straw.

1:04:47 Surely, the prime minister can't send our king to meet a man who treats our country like a mafia boss running a protection racket.

1:04:56 Hey.

1:04:58 Who are calling a mafia? Ardan? Are you are you crazy?

1:05:01 Andrew Maher though, he did Wait. Wait. Do you remember

1:05:05 during Trump's first term where the parliament

1:05:08 was gonna ban him from even visiting The UK? Yes. Yes.

1:05:13 Yeah. But but you see, we've beaten them into submission.

1:05:17 That's what one more from Andrew Maher from he's now on I think he used to be

1:05:23 on BBC. I don't know if he's still on the BBC, but this is his LBC,

1:05:27 his broadcast.

1:05:28 It should all be cancelled now. Really, of course, by the I wonder if they're afraid the king is actually going to sign the terms of surrender. Prime minister,

1:05:37 the possible benefit is far too small. The danger's too great.

1:05:42 Even if it all went well Well, danger's.

1:05:45 Well,

1:05:45 we we can maybe he'll tell us what the dangers are. And if it all went well and president Trump behaved himself with the monarchy describes as a gentleman,

1:05:54 how much credit would be won for Britain?

1:05:56 Some,

1:05:57 a smidgen,

1:05:59 a pinch. A pinch. For ten minutes,

1:06:02 maybe an hour, perhaps even if we're lucky, a day.

1:06:07 And then Trump would change his mind again and cancel the trade deal or further undermine the NATO alliance or be abusive.

1:06:13 But This sounds like a bunch of scaredy cats to me who have no navy, who their own generals came out and said,

1:06:20 yeah, you know, we don't even know where most of the stuff is and it won't start and we don't know how if it still works and we really haven't done anything for over a decade,

1:06:32 and and so now it's Trump's fault. Certainly, I wouldn't use words like gangster,

1:06:37 but you cannot trust this man. Ew. And perhaps to his credit, you cannot buy him either.

1:06:44 After last year's Second Stay visit to The UK, where he was smothered with praise and ceremonial pomp,

1:06:50 he started attacking Britain again on the flight home and carried on at the United Nations, making wild claims about Sharia law.

1:06:57 The epithets he used about British Have you seen the northern part of your country, Andrew Marr? Yes. Overnight. This time included

1:07:05 insane,

1:07:06 tragic,

1:07:07 and sad.

1:07:09 So anyone who assumes that putting the king and queen alongside him in Washington this spring will make things sunnier,

1:07:15 I am afraid, just hasn't checked the record.

1:07:18 And the dangers are obvious.

1:07:20 The humiliation of the monarch, Trump grabbing the microphone to say something offensive to which the king cannot reply. Oh, there's your dangers, John. Humiliation of the monarch.

1:07:30 Look.

1:07:31 We have tried flattering the president's ego.

1:07:34 We have tried obsequious.

1:07:36 It doesn't work.

1:07:39 I'm sure king Charles would see all of this as his national duty, grit his teeth and do his stuff,

1:07:45 and probably crossed fingers, it will go off okay.

1:07:48 But I wonder whether in private, the king doesn't quietly agree with the leader of the Liberal Democrats and feel there has been enough kissing of the rod, sucking up of criticism and swallowing of pride. Boo. Sucking and swallowing. Wow. Andrew Marr going all out.

1:08:04 So this is about soft power, you see. We need the soft power of the monarch to come and try and smooth things over with NATO and it should still be the fighting arm whenever The UK needs us. It's an important visit this and it's very important for the king to go over there as, if you like, our most important envoy that we have. We it is a political visit. Is a soft power diplomacy

1:08:28 at its height. The king, after all,

1:08:31 you know, is is somebody that has been doing this in the sort of number two role for quite some time. He knows how these things operate,

1:08:39 and he does it very well behind closed doors. He's a very respected man. And I think that the president will respect his visit and actually will warmly welcome him and not embarrass him. So what this is really about is about our military

1:08:51 defending The UK whenever they want us to, which we've done historically.

1:08:56 And president Trump's view is we haven't gotten much out of that. This is from the House of Lords discussion

1:09:03 about the military:

1:09:04 And as The US undergoes

1:09:06 such changes

1:09:08 The United Kingdom must adjust as well.

1:09:12 Firstly, it's clear that our high level of military dependence

1:09:15 on The US is no longer tenable.

1:09:19 President Trump's demands about a greater European contribution

1:09:22 are just a dramatic manifestation

1:09:25 of a longer term

1:09:26 American anxiety

1:09:28 about imbalances

1:09:29 within NATO.

1:09:31 Our reliance on The United States, predicated

1:09:35 on the naive belief that

1:09:38 it will always be there

1:09:40 to support us in times of conflict.

1:09:43 But it's not. Exactly.

1:09:45 And have you heard about the latest in The Falklands?

1:09:50 No, nah, this I have not heard. So the Falklands is

1:09:55 a little piece that's connected to Argentina,

1:09:59 which is which is a bit I mean, you know the history better than I would, but, it's it's

1:10:04 contested, I would say.

1:10:07 Well, not contested by the Brits. No.

1:10:10 Not by the Brits.

1:10:12 But by They own it and that's that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there was a little kerfuffle in 1982

1:10:18 about it. Here's the latest that's happening

1:10:21 based upon a leaked memo from the Pentagon,

1:10:25 which I don't think anyone believes was an actual

1:10:29 accidental leak. Act now, Downing Street says the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands rests with The UK after it emerged that the Pentagon has been considering options to punish NATO allies for not supporting it with its war in Iran. A US official told Reuters that possible sanctions include pushing for Spain's suspension from NATO and reviewing Britain's ownership of the Falklands.

1:10:50 Well, our world news correspondent, Joe Inwood, gave me the latest. I think it's fair to say that this if this became official

1:10:58 state department official American policy,

1:11:01 it would be really very severe indeed. It's we should say at the moment, this is just a briefing document. This is, you know, an unverified internal thing at the moment. But what this is is another example of the Americans trying to sort of punish their traditional allies

1:11:16 for what they see as their lack of involvement in the Iran war. Yeah. Exactly. We're gonna needle you. Trump seems to be trying to get into Britain's heads, if you like,

1:11:27 these constant attacks on Starman

1:11:29 against, of course, the king arriving in on Monday. But, I mean, I feel quite sorry for the king with the level

1:11:36 of diplomacy that he's being asked to carry with him. But I I I think

1:11:43 with Trump is playing his games, he's trying to make the point that he wasn't supported properly by us in Iran,

1:11:50 that,

1:11:51 Spain, of course, well. He's threatening to throw Spain out of NATO, which possibly is a is is a rather bigger story in some ways. But,

1:11:59 he is looking, I think, to needle us and to try and make it clear that, we didn't come up to we didn't come up to spec.

1:12:07 And so that's why he's come up with this. It's interesting because the statement came from the Pentagon,

1:12:12 the state department, which is the equivalent of the foreign office in America,

1:12:16 has claimed to know nothing about it. So there might be some sort of internal

1:12:22 DC Beltway politics going on here. You think? But bear in mind, the Americans have never they've always been neutral about the Falklands. They have never said it is a British possession. It is not a British possession.

1:12:34 Also, in mind that Reagan and Thatcher, who were leading Britain and America at the time,

1:12:39 had a close relationship and there was undoubtedly a lot of covert US help in 1982.

1:12:44 So, yeah, this is obviously obviously completely

1:12:48 related

1:12:50 and the king's coming over

1:12:52 and hey, king, you know, I don't know about I'm

1:12:54 I'm even I

1:12:56 should go on Calci and place a bet that Trump will say something about The Falklands.

1:13:01 You know, and then hey, why don't you go visit this battleground where we kicked your butt?

1:13:06 Enjoy that. Have a good look there, Charles.

1:13:10 And then there's the

1:13:12 close relationship with Malay, which just makes things worse for Britain. And obviously, Donald Trump is is quite close to Argentina's president, Javier Malay. So there's, you know, there's there's a potential sort of axis there. Mean, it does look like Argentina is rearming. Does the UK military have enough footprint to protect the Falklands? Because I've heard many people in the military saying, well, we couldn't do what we did in the Falklands War now. I think that's definitely a worry, and Argentina are rearming with the help of actually NATO allies. They bought f 16 jets from from Denmark, and the Americans are helping

1:13:46 with the missiles for those jets. And and meanwhile, The UK

1:13:50 footprint in Falklands,

1:13:53 know, they've got four typhoons there. They've got under 1,000

1:13:57 troops,

1:13:59 and they've recently

1:14:01 pulled out a Voyager refueling aircraft to take on a task as a result of the Middle East crisis.

1:14:08 So I think there would be genuine concerns about what The UK would be able to do to defend the islands, and of course remember during the

1:14:17 Falklands War, we had an awful lot of aircraft

1:14:21 and

1:14:22 ships. And at the moment, we don't really have any ships that would be available to to send there. And if we did, it would take an awful long time to get there. So I think there's definitely a perceived vulnerability

1:14:33 there. Trump games to the max.

1:14:38 Yeah. It's pretty funny. I love it.

1:14:41 Screw those about Macron going to China?

1:14:43 No. Do you have that? No. Don't. I should've. It was a mistake on my part. No. The corona goes to China and then starts speaking for the EU and bad mouths The US.

1:14:54 It was a kind of a fiasco. Yeah. We'll get to that in the next show.

1:15:00 But,

1:15:01 I wanna change gears

1:15:03 and talk about big pharma for a second.

1:15:06 Okay. Big pharma it is.

1:15:10 First of all, because there was a hearing in Germany with one of the ex Pfizer guys.

1:15:15 Yeah.

1:15:16 Hotshot.

1:15:18 And I have three clips of that.

1:15:20 And it's just disgusting

1:15:23 to listen to these stories, and mostly this is about COVID nineteen vaccine. What a Yeah. I mean, how long is they gonna keep this thing on the market? How long is that guy from UCSF at the Bay Area gonna come on TV and say, another COVID shot. You haven't gotten enough.

1:15:39 He's on TV in in Oh, this guy's Hong.

1:15:42 He's Hong. Guy it keeps coming. He keeps on all the net all the local stations and he comes on. Oh, yeah. The the new shot's been reformulated.

1:15:51 It's great. It's reformulated.

1:15:53 It's new COVID shot.

1:15:55 But let's listen to this pharma executive Pfizer executive.

1:15:59 This is translated so you have, you know, they're speaking German. Yeah. And,

1:16:05 but it's very,

1:16:07 educational,

1:16:08 part one. Doc Doctor Stelz, you worked as the chief toxicologist

1:16:12 for Pfizer Europe. Is that correct? Yes,

1:16:15 that is correct. I was responsible there for all animal experiments related to drug safety. Thank you.

1:16:21 My questions concern community from Pfizer BioNTech.

1:16:25 You have dealt dealt extensively with the approval of this vaccine and the documentation.

1:16:29 Is that correct?

1:16:31 That is correct. Was the carcinogenicity

1:16:34 of this vaccine tested prior to approval? No.

1:16:37 The carcinogenic

1:16:38 risk was

1:16:40 investigated due to time constraints. By

1:16:42 the way, I find it very worrying and also regrettable

1:16:46 that no alternative studies were conducted.

1:16:49 We are observing in Germany but also in many other countries

1:16:52 that the birth rate plummeted

1:16:54 following the vaccination campaign.

1:16:57 Yes, you are referring to studies concerning reproduction.

1:17:00 A study on rats using karma tea was

1:17:04 inadequately

1:17:05 conducted.

1:17:06 Consequently,

1:17:06 no reliable assessments

1:17:08 of the vaccine's effect on pregnancy or the development of offspring were possible.

1:17:14 Nothing had been learned from the thalidomide disaster.

1:17:17 According to the RKI protocol, approval was granted in a fast track procedure.

1:17:22 This meant that essential toxicity studies were sacrificed

1:17:26 for the sake of speed without acceptable justification.

1:17:30 I know of no case with a comparable indication

1:17:33 in which all these studies were omitted.

1:17:36 Thus the approval led to prohibited human trials.

1:17:40 Wow, but surely they've done these studies now on carcinogenity

1:17:44 on the new new new new COVID vaccine.

1:17:48 Oh, yeah? No?

1:17:51 Not that I know of.

1:17:52 Okay.

1:17:54 Here we go. So the RKI

1:17:56 had noted internally at the time that side effects and vaccine related injuries were only to be investigated

1:18:03 after the product had been launched. Hey. Maybe we can use this guy's voice for the book of knowledge. Sounds a little more little more fun.

1:18:11 Yeah. What came of that? Pfizer's post marketing report mentioned over one thousand two hundred suspected deaths within just two months of approval.

1:18:21 Commernity should have been withdrawn from the market by then at the latest.

1:18:25 If I am correctly informed, the Paul Ellich Institute has received

1:18:30 two thousand one hundred and thirty three reports of deaths following karma to date. With these spontaneous reports,

1:18:37 there is a high number of unreported cases due to underreporting.

1:18:41 The actual number is therefore much higher. In The US, an underreporting factor of thirty is assumed,

1:18:49 by which the registered cases should be multiplied.

1:18:52 For Germany,

1:18:53 that would correspond to sixty thousand deaths caused by the vaccine.

1:18:57 Sixty thousand. So the federal government is withholding the important SAFEWAC and KB data on vaccination injuries.

1:19:05 And the majority of this commission has even refused to request this data.

1:19:09 Could vaccine injuries and deaths have been avoided with approval compliant with the regulations?

1:19:16 Yes, because Comirnaty should not have been approved at all under the regulations.

1:19:21 Wow.

1:19:22 But this Comirnaty

1:19:23 was the good vaccine, if you remember. Yeah. That was the one you kinda wanted if you had to take it anyway.

1:19:29 Wow. Yeah. Wow.

1:19:32 Yeah. Well, here we go with the now this part kinda bothers me. And, again, this brings up my never

1:19:39 ending complaint about liability issues.

1:19:42 To know if people could sue, this this none of this would happen.

1:19:46 Well, can they sue in Germany? I guess they can sue in Germany.

1:19:50 Maybe. I don't know. I don't know the rules in Germany.

1:19:53 He probably did the same thing there.

1:19:55 Currently, many vaccine injured individuals in Germany are fighting for compensation for pain and suffering. They often lose because the courts say karma nity has a positive risk benefit ratio.

1:20:07 Is this assumption justified?

1:20:08 In my view absolutely not. Comirnaty was not tested at all during clinical development for the prevention of severe illness or deaths. Pfizer documents therefore do not indicate a positive risk benefit ratio at all. Mathematician Robert Rockefeller from the University of Cobbler estimates

1:20:28 that for every severe case of Covid-nineteen

1:20:30 that karma tea allegedly prevents,

1:20:33 there are 25 severe side effects. Okay, did age adjusted mortality in Germany decline after the start of this vaccination campaign? No, mortality rose significantly

1:20:44 from 2021

1:20:45 to 2022

1:20:46 compared to 2020.

1:20:49 If there had been a positive risk benefit ratio, mortality should have declined when the vaccine became available in early twenty twenty one. That makes sense. Did the population receive the active ingredient during the vaccination campaign that Pfizer tested in the shortened emergency approval process?

1:21:07 No. A highly purified substance was used for the clinical trial before approval.

1:21:13 It was too expensive for mass production.

1:21:16 The public received a vaccine produced using the Escherichia coli bacterium. The result is significant contamination

1:21:23 with bacterial DNA,

1:21:25 and the consequence could be a heavily increased risk of cancer. Thank you very much. So, you know, Ron Johnson is the guy in The United States who does stuff like this.

1:21:35 This is not like it's anything new. We know this. We've known this. This has been out there.

1:21:41 Yes. And it just keeps coming out with more and more, it's like piling on and they still

1:21:48 don't stop

1:21:49 distributing this stuff.

1:21:51 So why is that?

1:21:54 Well, you tell me. And now listen to this guy. Now this is doctor Eric Berg

1:21:59 who had this little ditty that I thought I thought this was an eye opener.

1:22:05 And a lot of it has to do with the corruption of the pharma and and the FTC. And listen to this. So in 2007,

1:22:12 congress passed a law, and it says if you run a drug

1:22:16 study in America, you have to post the results, all of them, not just the ones that worked, but the ones that did not work and the ones that where they hurt people as well. And that's the law. So, and when I say results, I'm not talking about we did a study, I mean the actual numbers, did the drugs, work on the thing you said that they were measuring, how many people got sick, how many people died,

1:22:39 all of that is required by law. Because if a company runs 10 studies and only two out of eight work, and they only show the good ones and suppress the bad ones, then the doctor and the patient are misled, especially in the

1:22:53 consent form, the informed

1:22:55 consent,

1:22:56 when patients sign off, that they know the risks and benefits.

1:23:00 So that's

1:23:02 the law for about nineteen years. The fine for breaking this law is about $13,000

1:23:08 a day per trial omitted.

1:23:11 So every day they're late, the meter runs. $13

1:23:14 per day. So take a wild guess how many fines the FDA has collected in those nineteen years. Zero. If you guess zero, you are correct. Woo! Zero. Not a dollar. So Oxford University did the math and if the FDA, had enforced the law, pharma would owe

1:23:31 $19,000,000,000.

1:23:34 Three weeks ago, at the end of March, the new FDA commissioner,

1:23:38 Doctor. Marty

1:23:39 McCary, put out this announcement, and he said pharma has been suppressing

1:23:44 unfavorable clinical trial results. And he used the word suppressing,

1:23:48 which means hiding,

1:23:50 not showing, omitting.

1:23:52 So this is like the first time a commissioner in that, job has come out in the open and said it. He sent messages to 2,200 companies.

1:24:00 2,200.

1:24:01 And the message message wasn't a fine. It was just saying, hey. You know, we see you.

1:24:07 We know you're out of compliance.

1:24:09 You have to fix it. That's it. And you you might say that's a little thing, but just take a look at the enforcement that happened in the '19 last nineteen years.

1:24:20 The the only letters that were sent out were like eight

1:24:24 in nineteen years.

1:24:27 So the only thing I can hope

1:24:30 is that

1:24:31 RFK

1:24:32 junior

1:24:33 is doing two things

1:24:35 in parallel. One is getting all the healthy stuff in, the maha the maha stuff,

1:24:41 which I think he's he's been doing a pretty good job. We've,

1:24:45 you know, brought back a real food pyramid,

1:24:47 we're

1:24:49 getting rid of all kinds of things that shouldn't be in our food, we're trying to educate people about what is real food, some of the food companies are changing,

1:24:57 but I hope in parallel he is building a monster because he is a lawyer, this is what he's been doing, he sued pharma companies for his entire career.

1:25:05 I hope he's building a monster case that will send people to the electric chair.

1:25:11 And, you know, and he has another couple years to do it.

1:25:15 I really really really hope that because that to me was a big part of the Trump administration was when Kennedy jumps in and says I'm gonna be a part of this. And we know we know he knows his bull crap. We know he knows that this stuff was bad and dangerous.

1:25:31 Now you laugh Yep. Because I mean, do you think that that's not even in the cards that he won't do that? I mean, he doesn't seem like he's a he's a feared kind of guy.

1:25:40 I think he wants to do it.

1:25:44 I think that the the team around him wants to do it, but there is so much embedded,

1:25:52 and there's so much corruption

1:25:54 by pharma. I mean, where's the $19,000,000,000

1:25:57 you could have collected? Mhmm.

1:26:00 No. They got nothing. They got zero collected.

1:26:05 And you have the liability scam and you have the advertising on TV scam, and you have capture of the media,

1:26:13 and you have, you know, these guys that come on TV that promote this stuff and they get paid to do it, and the the networks get extra money. So that's it? It's gives so He up? We just I can't do it. It's too big. I'm gonna die not having tried. That's what it looks like to me.

1:26:30 Well, that'd be very disappointing.

1:26:32 Well, I'll be disappointed.

1:26:35 Yeah.

1:26:36 Yeah. Okay. Well, that was a bummer. Thanks.

1:26:40 Oh, sorry.

1:26:42 Let's

1:26:43 Yeah. Me do a

1:26:45 little update on Iran

1:26:47 with just

1:26:49 a quick little, yeah, some financial economic fury,

1:26:53 update from the gay general patent. Just to put a fine point on this though, is the president in the process of winding down this war or at Say what?

1:27:00 To put a fine point on his head. Yeah. Well, this is, Mann Hands Welker. So yeah. Escalating conflict. Again, they're not mutually exclusive.

1:27:08 Sometimes you have to escalate to deescalate crew. Oh. Okay. NBC News is reporting that president Trump is considering sending troops into Iran.

1:27:16 Will the administration

1:27:18 use troops to secure

1:27:20 the Strait Of Hormuz or for any other reason, mister Why is she asking the secretary of the treasury these questions is what I wanna know. How would she all the time. You pointed this out before. This is not the first time No. That he's been grilled on stuff that he's not shouldn't have

1:27:36 any connection to. Well, is he is the general patent. The secretary. Again, as president Trump said during the press break,

1:27:44 yesterday when he was going out to marine one, he's not gonna give give away what we're going to do. He's as president Trump always does, he's leaving all options on the on the table.

1:27:56 We had a very successful bombing campaign against the military installations at Karg Island, the nexus for all the Iranian oil supply. You know, what could happen with Karg Island? We'll see.

1:28:08 And, again, just to be clear, the command and control system of the Iranian regime is in chaos.

1:28:16 This is Hitler's bunker. Hitler is dead. Uh-oh. Hemler is dead. Goring is dead. Oh, no.

1:28:22 Eva Gardner is dead. Most of what you're seeing are lone wolf activities. Oh. This

1:28:28 the midrange

1:28:29 ICBM that was shot off, these two missiles yesterday,

1:28:32 that's out of desperation, Kristen. Well, he knows a lot for a for a money guy. You bring up Park Island. I wanna ask you about your statement. You said it could become a US asset. What exactly does that mean? Could US troops go into Cargilland to secure it? Again,

1:28:47 as I said, all options are on the table.

1:28:49 Okay. So that's a possibility. All options are on the table. Alright. Let me talk about your announcement this past week. On Friday, the treasury department lifted sanctions on Iranian oil,

1:28:59 stored on tankers. Now, I I chose this because

1:29:04 the previous clip that we played on a show ago,

1:29:07 he was doing the math and he was fighting with his calculator,

1:29:11 but he did he did it wrong because he said

1:29:14 60%

1:29:15 of a 150

1:29:17 or do you want just a $100?

1:29:19 And

1:29:21 his math was off on the 60%,

1:29:23 so he's changed that now in his answer. A move that would effectively allow Iran to get more than $14,000,000,000

1:29:31 of oil revenue. Why

1:29:33 is The US helping

1:29:34 to fund a country that it's currently at war with, mister Secretary? Again, Kristen, why don't we have good facts here? That Iranian oil was always going to be sold to the Chinese.

1:29:44 It was going to be sold at a discount.

1:29:47 So which which is better, Kristen?

1:29:49 The

1:29:50 the which is better? If they were if oil prices spiked to a $150

1:29:55 and they were getting 70% of that or oil prices below a 100. It's better to have them where they are now. And to be clear, we had always planned for this contingency.

1:30:06 About a 140,000,000 barrels are out on the water. In essence,

1:30:11 we are jiu jitsuing the Iranians. We are using their own oil against

1:30:17 them.

1:30:18 We have a much better line of sight, to be clear, at treasury

1:30:23 when this oil goes to. If it goes to Indonesia, if it goes to Japan, if it goes to Korea,

1:30:29 we have a much better line of sight and are able to block accounts that the oil goes into. When it goes into China,

1:30:37 it completely gets recycled.

1:30:38 So the four to be clear, that 14,000,000,000

1:30:41 I don't understand that. For the two things he says here, one is we get to block the accounts that the oil goes into.

1:30:49 I mean, maybe the accounts that will be paying for the oil, but I don't know if does does someone go to the bank and say here's some oil?

1:30:57 And then I don't know what he's talking about. And that's yes. And what do you here? About recycled.

1:31:02 Are the Chinese reselling it to somebody else? I think that's what he means. Yeah. No. But that's not what they do with the oil. They use the stuff. Right. He's saying they recycle recycle it. It. Line of sight and are able to block accounts that the oil goes into. When it goes into China, it completely gets recycled. So the four to be clear, that 14,000,000,000

1:31:21 number

1:31:22 is grossly overstated.

1:31:24 Let me unpack what you're just saying. First of all, how much is it? And second of all, I don't hear you disputing that Iran will get some of the money. Iran all already gets a huge amount of the money because Iran is the largest sponsor of state terrorism,

1:31:38 and China has been funding them.

1:31:41 China has been funding connection there? They get a lot of money because of the sponsor state terrorism?

1:31:46 Yeah. He's not What's the logic in the today's show is about illogic.

1:31:51 And here is, the president with the latest on the negotiations.

1:31:54 Today, president Trump canceled plans for his top envoys, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, to travel to Pakistan

1:32:01 for negotiations

1:32:03 with Iran aimed at ending the war. The president spoke in Florida right before returning to Washington DC.

1:32:10 So we're not gonna spend

1:32:11 fifteen hours in airplanes all the time going back and forth

1:32:15 to be giving a document that was not good enough. We got Zoom. And so

1:32:21 we'll deal by telephone and they can call us anytime they want.

1:32:25 Tonight, Iran's foreign minister who left Pakistan is questioning whether The US is serious about diplomacy.

1:32:32 I I agree. Zoom call people. Let's save some money, save some time, Zoom call.

1:32:38 So I was sent a clip

1:32:40 which I'd never seen before

1:32:42 and I think it's Mike Wallace interviewing the then Shah of Iran.

1:32:48 Have

1:32:49 you seen this clip? Yes, I have. That's good because I was puzzled by it. Have you seen the lines of cars

1:32:56 stretching for blocks, in some cases, for miles? This is 1974,

1:33:01 the, the gas the oil shortage, the gas crisis. Mhmm.

1:33:05 Waiting to get gas. Seen the pictures. And you cannot But you have imported more oil than any time in the past.

1:33:12 Well, not recently we haven't. You have?

1:33:15 You mean we are still importing more oil than we were, let's say, in September?

1:33:21 You believe that? I can't say for sure,

1:33:24 but what is certain is that you are not

1:33:30 importing less.

1:33:32 Then then we were importing last September, then this whole thing is a fraud?

1:33:36 You know that ships are changing their destinations

1:33:40 two or three times in the oceans.

1:33:44 You sell the oil for a certain destination and it ends up somewhere else.

1:33:50 What you seem to be saying is that there is some fraud involved, that there is something going on

1:33:57 that doesn't meet the eye. Oh, something is going on for sure. And who is being enriched by it?

1:34:03 The oil companies. The oil companies.

1:34:06 You know that one

1:34:09 oil company has made 67%

1:34:12 interest this year, and another one even more?

1:34:15 Well, the president of Aramco acknowledges.

1:34:19 Yes? Not the the president, the chairman of the board of Aramco acknowledged to us that their profits,

1:34:26 the parent company, will go up by 400%.

1:34:29 Yes. Next year, just as Iran's profits will go up Yes. By four this is our wealth, our natural wealth.

1:34:35 For them it's only a question of manipulation.

1:34:38 So the implication here, 1974,

1:34:41 I'm I'm old enough to remember,

1:34:43 I was not in America in the gas lines, but I was in The Netherlands

1:34:47 where we had car free Sundays.

1:34:49 There was no driving on Sunday because there wasn't enough oil

1:34:53 to make gasoline for the entire country.

1:34:57 What I'm hearing the Shah say here

1:35:00 is that it wasn't that

1:35:02 the oil wasn't available,

1:35:05 but it was being diverted by nefarious actors to other places.

1:35:09 Yeah. Yeah. It's cute. Did you know this? Do you think that's true?

1:35:13 Well, it was never documented that to be true.

1:35:16 It was supposed to be a shortage. We weren't getting enough

1:35:20 and or the or the prices were going up and they

1:35:23 kinda create created a

1:35:26 shortage because of the price.

1:35:28 I don't know. Maybe. I mean, I wouldn't well I mean, it it's possible. Well, here's the coincidence. I mean, I went through that. I was working for the air pollution district.

1:35:38 And,

1:35:40 since I had a car, a government car,

1:35:44 I didn't have any of these issues. I just drove it around. You just drove it around and you go to the government pump and get filled up whenever you wanted?

1:35:51 We didn't have any government pumps, but I never had I don't remember waiting in long lines.

1:35:58 I So just

1:35:59 the oil baron had given me a book to read a couple weeks, maybe a couple months ago. I talked about it I think briefly.

1:36:06 The peep the men who run the world, the people who run the world,

1:36:09 and it's about the commodity traders.

1:36:11 The people who actually buy the stuff and you know, they're organizing ghost ships and loading and offloading from one ship to the next and oh, you you

1:36:21 need some oil from Libya, don't worry we'll go in, we know guys on the ground, they won't shoot us.

1:36:27 And it's a it's a really good book.

1:36:29 And the Freakonomics podcast had the authors of this book on just this week,

1:36:35 and here's their version of what happens during the seventies

1:36:38 with an old show favorite,

1:36:41 Mark Rich.

1:36:43 And Mark Rich,

1:36:45 we know because he

1:36:47 wound up in Switzerland

1:36:49 and was pardoned by President Clinton on the last day of his presidency,

1:36:55 and he

1:36:56 arguably was the the guy who really put commodity trading on the map. A lot of what you needed to do to make money in the oil trade in those early days was to have a good enough relationship with one of the big oil producers

1:37:11 that they would sell you oil

1:37:13 at a price that was probably too low. One of his big trade flows was through this extremely secretive pipeline that went through Israel that was built as a joint venture between Israel and Iran before the fall of the shah in great secrecy, and Mark Rich would be buying Iranian oil, putting it through the pipeline, supplying Israel, but also supplying Europe through this pipeline, which then became enormously valuable when the Suez Canal closed in 1967

1:37:41 after Israel launched an attack on Egypt and Syria. This brief war was over, but the Suez Canal stayed closed until 1975.

1:37:49 And for Mark Rich, that was a gift from the gods, and he made huge amounts of money. Mark Rich became this almost larger than life figure in commodity trading,

1:37:57 most profitable commodity trader ever. We spoke to a number of former senior people at Mark Rich who said that the company made a billion dollars of profit in 1979,

1:38:05 the era of the Iranian revolution,

1:38:08 which in those days would have made it one of the 10

1:38:12 largest companies in America, and this was a company owned by a small handful of people that only people in the commodities industry had ever heard of.

1:38:20 But that didn't last because Marc Rich caught the attention of

1:38:24 US law and particularly of Rudy Giuliani, then a prosecutor, who indicted him

1:38:30 for

1:38:31 tax fraud

1:38:32 and for trading with Iran during the hostage crisis. So he and his partner, Pinky Green Pinky Green. Fled The US to Switzerland, became fugitives from US justice,

1:38:42 and then carried on their business of being the world's largest commodity trading house despite this US indictment hanging over their head. First of all, a name like Pinky Green is just awesome. Everybody needs a friend whose name is Pinky Green.

1:38:56 But I didn't know that Giuliani was involved in that and to me,

1:39:00 yeah, this kind of rings true.

1:39:03 This might have been a manufactured crisis

1:39:06 by a bunch of shysters running around doing all this oil business with Iran and Israel of all two countries?

1:39:14 Come on. We're being hoodwinked about all of this stuff.

1:39:18 All of this stuff is fake and gay.

1:39:21 The what you're paying at the pump now, fake and gay. All of it. This is all manipulation. And they have one more clip here about today's

1:39:29 situation. And Giuliani is a suspicious character.

1:39:33 Have you heard Curryaku

1:39:35 talk about him? No. Curryaku's

1:39:37 all on the up and up too. These are all suspicious characters.

1:39:41 None of them are any good. If Mark Rich were starting out today,

1:39:45 what would he be doing? He'd probably be trying to trade Russian, Iranian, Venezuelan oil, selling it to India and China. I think what happened here is Trump became the new Mark Rich. He's like, no. I can do this. I'll just do it for America. Those are the dodgy bits of the oil market where there is huge amounts of money to be made and which rely on having good connections and the willingness to bend or break the rules. Now somebody is doing that plainly.

1:40:10 Yes. People are doing that. For the most part, not the principal characters of our book because the principal characters of our book have become such enormous companies that they're too reliant on The US Dollar system to risk falling foul of the US government.

1:40:25 For the most part, that Russian oil flow, for example, Iranian oil flow, which is subject to even stricter sanctions,

1:40:32 has gone into the hands of more shadowy traders.

1:40:35 There's this new set of traders

1:40:38 that has popped up in Dubai

1:40:40 who changes name every few months,

1:40:43 including sometimes because they get sanctioned by the US government,

1:40:46 which is involved in trading a lot of the Russian oil. A lot of the Iranian oil gets traded or even bartered directly by Chinese companies and Chinese buyers,

1:40:54 sometimes gets shipped via Malaysia where it gets rebranded as Malaysian oil

1:40:58 and then imported into China as Malaysian rather than Iranian oil. There are political scientists who make the argument that sanctions often

1:41:06 fail for a variety of reasons.

1:41:08 Do they factor in what you're talking about right now, which is just that there are shadow dealers essentially who are finding ways to get around the sanctions?

1:41:17 One of the key arguments for why people say that sanctions

1:41:20 don't work, particularly sanctions on things like commodities,

1:41:22 because if commodities are produced, then as a rule, they tend to flow and they tend to find a market because they're fungible. It's quite hard to trace them. I wouldn't say it's universally true. For example,

1:41:35 in

1:41:35 2012

1:41:36 when The US and Europe ratcheted up sanctions on Iran, Iranian oil production and exports did fall pretty substantially.

1:41:44 This whole thing,

1:41:46 there's so much we're not aware of. There's a lot going on with this.

1:41:51 I I pray that Trump knows what he's doing.

1:41:55 Must he must have some view of this of what's happening. And Besant, I think the the money Probably part does for sure. Yeah. The money part they I think they've kinda got that nailed down.

1:42:08 Well, we're just pawns in the game. Oh, we're just podcaster pawns. We're just Podcast the worst. Oh,

1:42:15 speaking of podcasters,

1:42:17 they're all turning on Trump, man. The manosphere podcasters

1:42:21 are turning on Trump. Something's changed.

1:42:23 Someone's changed. One, I will launch the largest deportation

1:42:27 program in American history. That was the winning election promise. This is the reality.

1:42:33 Arrests at workplaces and hardware stores. And some of those huge supporters now publicly cooling. This storming into Home Depot and arresting people. No. No. That's not cool either. The military in the street, I think, is a dangerous precedent. Heard you got deported, dude. Theo Von furious that this video of his was used by the government in an immigration promo. Aidan Ross, who gave Trump a Tesla, now going in the other direction. So you both voted first time last year. Right? Yes. For Trump? Yes. How do these podcasts affect your vote? I kinda be able to hear him talk for three hours. It kinda gets you a little bit more,

1:43:09 oh, this is who he is. He's a little bit more human. When you see these manosphere podcasters moving away from the president, what are you making for that? I think it's important to make your own decisions and not blindly follow, like, a celebrity or a podcaster just because you enjoy watching their show. Yeah. That was CNN. Here's MS now.

1:43:26 But the other risk is that they are now potentially turning Donald Trump into a cultural punchline. Right? That he's an idiot, that his, supporters are dorks,

1:43:35 that he's been fooled into doing all this stuff, and that he's a failure. And, you know, Donald Trump,

1:43:41 for better or for worse, has had an incredible

1:43:44 ability to shape the perceptions of him and the cultural relevance that he has.

1:43:49 And to a degree,

1:43:51 he loses that control when these people turn on him, when his own supporters turn on him. That hasn't really happened in in in in the entirety of his political career. These people are not MAGA. They are just politically curious podcasters who kind of got sucked in and became to support Trump. Now you ask, is it dangerous? Of course, it's dangerous politically, but is it justified? And I would argue it is justified because there are a host of promises that Donald Trump made to this peep this sect in particular, but the voters in general that he's just not followed through on. It's not just the state of Middle East wars. It's not just to be, completely transparent on the Epstein files. He literally said he would bring down gasoline prices by half. So

1:44:30 for the people who email me, I've I've I've noticed this trend,

1:44:35 and the trend is two terms,

1:44:37 defending and supporting.

1:44:40 And because the emails I I get is,

1:44:43 you know,

1:44:44 well, yeah, it's okay, but you know, you're defending Trump,

1:44:48 you're supporting

1:44:49 Trump.

1:44:51 And just because

1:44:53 I

1:44:54 I don't think either of us are are hair on fire slamming

1:44:59 Trump which is what the audience captured podcasts are doing

1:45:03 Mhmm. Because their

1:45:05 audiences are very similar to ours. You're supporting Trump.

1:45:09 You're defending him.

1:45:12 We're giving you analysis.

1:45:13 We're trying to figure out what is going on.

1:45:16 What his strategy would be presuming

1:45:19 that he's not stupid.

1:45:22 You're Or going nuts.

1:45:24 Or nuts. So you Or or senile.

1:45:26 So you're going to get a different result by listening to the No Agenda podcast.

1:45:33 That doesn't mean we're defending or supporting anything.

1:45:37 We're trying to see it from I've

1:45:39 learned in the eighteen years we've been doing this and really has been during this show that the world that you see is usually if you turn it upside down that's the reality of it. It's the strangest thing.

1:45:52 And if if if if everyone's going right, you should be looking left. Don't look over here, look over there.

1:45:57 So when everyone's saying Trump is nuts and he's senile and he's demented and he's a liar and he doesn't know what he's doing, I'm looking for the thing where it maybe it's exactly the opposite. So the only thing I'll defend is our analysis

1:46:12 and I think it's good that we do that. I think you should

1:46:16 cherish what we're doing.

1:46:18 And most people will say, I'm not gonna stop listening but you're wrong and you're defending and supporting him. No.

1:46:24 We're giving you a different analysis

1:46:27 and you should be happy about that different analysis.

1:46:30 It may strengthen your own beliefs, it may make you question them,

1:46:35 but either way,

1:46:37 please don't write these long emails explaining how we've gone off the rails.

1:46:42 I told I don't see it.

1:46:44 I'm sorry? I I don't see us going off the rails. No. I mean If you wanted to say something was off the rails, have a clip.

1:46:53 Okay. He's got some he's got a clip. An off the rails clip.

1:46:57 I think now this is funny. Trump administration

1:47:00 approves firing squads.

1:47:02 Alright. Ryan Nobles joins us live in studio. And Ryan, another headline we're tracking from the justice department.

1:47:07 They're bringing back firing squads for federal executions? Yeah. That's right, Tom. The Biden administration had placed a moratorium on federal executions,

1:47:15 but the Trump administration is lifting that ban and planning to reintroduce

1:47:19 other forms of execution

1:47:21 beyond lethal injections like firing squads. Tom, they say it's to streamline the process and speed up those executions. I personally okay. First of all, I'm all for all of this.

1:47:33 I just want the TV rights.

1:47:36 This is all I've ever asked for.

1:47:38 I think I think that if I had the TV rights to all firing squads, Dame Brunetti would find the money to back us

1:47:45 to do this television show.

1:47:47 I Oh, yeah. I also think the guillotine would be a good a cool thing to bring back. The guillotine would be cool especially if they lift the head up by the guys. By the hair. By the hair. Breathing for air.

1:47:58 And the mouth going up and down.

1:48:00 Oh, man. That would be entertainment.

1:48:03 Speaking of entertainment,

1:48:05 the biggest box office smash,

1:48:09 have you heard?

1:48:11 What? Michael Jackson.

1:48:15 But you did this based on a Broadway play. Right? Well, this is the biopic.

1:48:20 This is this is the Oh, this is a biopic. This is not the the

1:48:24 the Broadway show that's No. No. No. This is the biopic. It's a big production,

1:48:30 Lions Gate. Here we go. I got a clip. Ready whenever you are, Michael.

1:48:35 Michael

1:48:37 explores his ascent to superstardom

1:48:40 from the Jackson five and a childhood in the spotlight Y'all willing to fight for it? Yes, sir. To escaping his abusive father and manager Joe Jackson's grip. I need to think.

1:48:51 I told you at the bank. The

1:48:55 title role is played by the king of pop's nephew, Jafar Jackson. What I want the world to feel. The biopic ends in 1984

1:49:03 at the peak of Michael's thriller superstardom,

1:49:08 but it glosses over a central part of his life story,

1:49:12 the child sex abuse allegations that still haunt his legacy. The filmmakers say they planned on tackling the allegations,

1:49:20 which first surfaced in 1993,

1:49:23 but that they were cut because of legal constraints.

1:49:26 One's understanding of Michael Jackson is not complete

1:49:29 if you refuse to look at the whole picture.

1:49:32 The Jackson estate, which was involved in the film, maintains his innocence and calls the claims against him lies and money grabs.

1:49:40 The pop star was acquitted in 2005

1:49:43 and died four years later.

1:49:45 We drive

1:49:47 allegations would ramp up again in the 2019 documentary leaving Neverland.

1:49:52 Hello, Wade. The documentary's director spoke to the Hollywood reporter about the new film, saying people just don't care about the allegations

1:50:02 even if, in his view, Jackson is worse than Epstein. I think with Michael Jackson,

1:50:07 he was almost too big to fail. The musician's daughter, Paris Jackson, also condemned the film. There's a lot of inaccuracy, and there's a lot of just full blown lies. There's at least one protest planned outside a Canadian theater

1:50:20 with organizers calling the movie a slap in the face to all child sexual abuse survivors.

1:50:27 Teria Esri, Global News, Montreal.

1:50:30 So everybody's in luck because, I happen to be, somewhat of an authority on Michael Jackson,

1:50:37 having met him more than once,

1:50:39 having been, in the music business during, at least part of his amazing

1:50:45 career. In fact, at one point,

1:50:47 I was called upon as an expert in all things Michael Jackson.

1:50:51 Oh, here we go. When

1:50:55 he died

1:50:56 and,

1:50:57 MSNBC

1:50:58 called me.

1:50:59 Yeah. This is your first and last visit to MSNBC.

1:51:03 I mean, there seems to be an insatiable appetite for this. Yes.

1:51:07 Absolutely. And and I'm amazed as, know, as you're showing the footage and everyone seems to be showing the footage of these rehearsals just two days before his death. You know, here's a guy who clearly was in great physical shape. He had

1:51:19 thirty, forty concerts coming up in the 02 Arena in London.

1:51:24 That's a huge production. You have to be preparing yourself a year in advance at least physically. You can't put on a show like that without an enormous insurance coverage,

1:51:33 which includes a tremendous amount of physical testing. So I'm amazed at what happened, and I know that there's breaking news about some form of

1:51:43 medicinal

1:51:44 drugs that were found in his home. I'm quite I'm amazed that no one is looking at a murder angle on this.

1:51:50 But we shall see. There's much more like A long pause. A strangent pause. And they hung up on me and have never called again.

1:51:58 But of course, the doctor was convicted of Well, at least you're consistent.

1:52:02 Therefore, the doctor was convicted of killing him.

1:52:05 Yeah. And his lawyer

1:52:07 who was married to Catherine You nailed it and these guys you know, they just you weren't playing the game. I was not playing the game.

1:52:15 So Yep.

1:52:17 Kamala Harris as a side note was the prosecutor on that trial, that might tell you something.

1:52:23 He was acquitted,

1:52:25 so when you're acquitted then it's done. But

1:52:29 it's very sad to see this

1:52:31 theme keep coming up that he was a child molester and having met him,

1:52:36 I can tell you this guy was asexual.

1:52:39 There was no sex going on with this guy. Think the one time was with

1:52:44 Brooke Shields. I think he actually found her attractive.

1:52:48 But when I went to

1:52:51 I'll just tell the story briefly. So the

1:52:53 MTV was filled with deals. MTV was all deals deals deals and they wanted Michael Jackson to perform at the VMAs,

1:53:01 the Video Music Awards.

1:53:03 And he said, okay,

1:53:04 but under two conditions and one of them was that he would be giving the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard

1:53:11 Award of the Year and that the award would be named after him, which they changed the minute j low won it. But okay. So they're they're

1:53:20 they're not good people if they change that award. But that was all political of course because you know, for some reason Michael Jackson fiddled with kids, which I just do not believe.

1:53:29 And so I had to go to Los Angeles, you can see the video on YouTube, me and Tom Preston.

1:53:35 Michael Jackson in that video is taller than I am, that's because he was standing on an apple crate

1:53:42 because he he I guess he didn't know how tall I was. He requested me specifically,

1:53:47 I'm not quite sure why.

1:53:50 But when I walked into MJJ Studios,

1:53:53 there must have been

1:53:55 30 kids

1:53:57 and they were brown and black and I think that they were you know, underprivileged kids and they had this beautiful

1:54:03 playground

1:54:04 and there were nannies and nurses around them taking care of them and Howie Mandel was there doing Bobby's World voices.

1:54:13 Michael Jackson truly loved children

1:54:16 and there was nothing sexual about it. It's just a lie

1:54:20 and for whatever reason or money probably,

1:54:24 people just keep bringing this up over and over again. So whereas I'm not defending president Trump, I will defend Michael Jackson.

1:54:32 Having met him more than once, this guy was asexual

1:54:36 And I'm interested in the movie. People say it's no good, but I'm interested in seeing it. I would go watch. I'm glad I'm glad it's out.

1:54:44 If if I'm good. Nice report. If only for the reason that I recently asked a room full of 20 year olds and they said, well, so tell us about

1:54:52 you know, what you what you did at MTV. They've never seen a video on MTV.

1:54:56 I said, well, you know, it's like a Diana Ross and Mick Jagger and David Bowie and Michael Jackson. They have no idea. Uh-huh. They had no idea who Michael Jackson was.

1:55:06 Of course. Why would they? Yeah. Well, so now they do.

1:55:09 There you go. That's So that's my report.

1:55:12 Yeah. Well, you've done this before and I think it's it's valid. Thank you. Sounds right to me. Yeah.

1:55:20 So I have a couple of just I don't know how many more how much time we have left. Yeah. We got some time for something for you. I got Brooks and part.

1:55:27 No. This was Talk about hey. This is this is literally

1:55:31 the definition of fake and gay, Brooks and K part.

1:55:35 This

1:55:36 was provided to me by

1:55:38 Steve. The clip collector.

1:55:40 Steve the clip clip collector. And because I had stopped doing the Brooks and Kaypart gig for a while. I was giving it a rest,

1:55:48 and I didn't realize I've given it a rest for so long. It's like four months. Mhmm. Boy. Because I think mostly because you were bitching and moaning about the about because you hate Brooks and you hate k part. Pretty much. With good reason. So,

1:56:01 I found this interesting, this is a couple of things, they're discussing

1:56:05 the the DOJ

1:56:07 dropping the case against Powell,

1:56:11 which they've done.

1:56:12 In fact, we could play a pre clip here on Powell. Oh, got a pre clip? There may be a pre clip that's

1:56:18 Where's a pre clip? Don't see It would be under

1:56:21 Under Powell?

1:56:22 Powell

1:56:24 No. I don't see I don't think you have a pre clip. I'm pretty sure I do.

1:56:32 Whatever. I don't think so. Okay. It's beside the point.

1:56:35 We can just go right to these.

1:56:38 So here we have the,

1:56:41 discussion of dropping the Oh, so PBS PBS News Yeah. There you go. Yeah. There it is. That's your pre clip. Okay. Justice Department is dropping its criminal probe into Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell over whether he lied to Congress about renovations at the Fed's headquarters.

1:56:55 Instead, the US attorney for the District of Columbia, Janine Piro, said the Fed's inspector general would be looking into cost overruns at the site.

1:57:04 The announcement opens a pathway for Kevin Walsh to be confirmed as Powell's successor.

1:57:09 Earlier this week, Republican senator Tom Tillis threatened to block his nomination

1:57:13 unless the DOJ dropped its investigation.

1:57:16 At the White House today, press secretary Caroline Leavitt urged Tillis to move forward.

1:57:21 Senator Tillis should do the right thing and move to confirm Kevin Worsch as speedily as possible.

1:57:27 He is a phenomenal candidate to lead the Fed, and we shouldn't be holding our nation's economy hostage,

1:57:32 because of a disagreement with the Department of Justice. The DOJ investigation of Powell unfolded against the back backdrop of president Trump's repeated criticism of the Fed chair for not lowering interest rates faster.

1:57:44 Okay.

1:57:45 Yes. Alright. So here we go with a little analysis,

1:57:48 and I get something caught me off guard. Can I can I you can I ask you a question first? Yeah.

1:57:54 So

1:57:54 as fed

1:57:56 Federal Reserve chairman,

1:57:57 is you're the head of a bunch of banks

1:58:01 with a government sounding name. Well, you're not the head of the banks. You're ahead of a bunch. You're just the head of this committee, basically. Committee on from a bunch of banks and people. Yeah. Okay. I'm not I'm just saying it's not a federal any it's not a government thing. It's independent.

1:58:16 It's just a name. It's a club of banks. It's like a a twenty four hour cleaner. Yeah.

1:58:21 One hour photo. A one hour photo. Yeah. Yeah. Name of the place. Is it up to the actual

1:58:27 Federal Reserve chairman himself

1:58:30 to lower in or or to change interest rates or is that the entire Federal Open Market committee system? It is is the is the chair of that, because that is very confusing to me, the president appoints the chair,

1:58:44 then he gets confirmed by senate,

1:58:46 has nothing to do with the government,

1:58:48 but can that individual,

1:58:50 that one person, can he say, I'm changing the interest rates? I think he can.

1:58:57 Wow. I mean, he does it in consultation. He just doesn't do it, but I think he can. But it's that guy. So that guy can wake up and say,

1:59:05 let's make it 2%.

1:59:07 Let's make it 10. Yeah. I'm pretty yeah. I think so. Okay. Alright. Now, back to I could be wrong, but I think so. Back to your clip. So now there's something noteworthy in here. See if you can spot it. This is DOJ drops Powell probe.

1:59:21 The US justice department dropped its probe into Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell

1:59:27 after admitting it lacked evidence, and voters in Virginia approved Democrats redistricting

1:59:32 efforts. For all of that and more, we turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart. That is The Atlantic's David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MS Now. It's always great to see you both. So the DOJ dropped its probe, as we said, into Fed chair Jerome Powell in part to clear a path to the for the confirmation of Kevin Walsh as his successor,

1:59:50 but also because the federal judge effectively crippled US attorney Jeanine Pirro's investigation.

1:59:56 David, what do you see as the takeaways? Who would have thought lack of evidence hurts hurts the prosecution?

2:00:02 You know, I think, first of all, Donald Trump, like every president, frankly, would love to have a Fed chair do what he wants because he can juice the economy at the right time for the election. Trump is obviously the only one who would actually act on that. And it should be said, we should appreciate the fact the Federal Reserve System is one of the crown jewels of our country. It was passed obviously in the progressive era. But you look at Greenspan,

2:00:22 what Bernanke did was miraculous. I think Powell has been an excellent Fed chair. The fact that we have these independent agencies who are doing their job,

2:00:31 with civil servants doing their job, is just something we should be proud of. And the fact that it's under threat and still under threat,

2:00:38 should still alarm us even if we've had a reprieve on this. The second point is that Tom Tillis, the senator who is retiring, who is holding up the Worsch nomination,

2:00:48 it'll be interesting to see if other senators who are not retiring

2:00:52 start doing that kind of thing, standing up to Trump.

2:00:55 Now that his approval is in the thirties and not in the forties.

2:00:58 And I anticipate that a few more senators will do will discover some courage when it comes time to standing up to the administration that they have lacked for the last eight years.

2:01:08 Well, the thing that kinda gets me is it sounds like Brooks believes that this is a part of the government.

2:01:16 Crown Jewels Sounds like it, know. Says civil servants.

2:01:19 No.

2:01:20 Bankers? What do mean civil servants?

2:01:23 Okay. What was Was the thing they the thing that caught my attention, which you missed. No evidence?

2:01:29 No. It's

2:01:32 David Brooks from the Atlantic.

2:01:35 Oh.

2:01:36 The

2:01:39 so called conservative republican

2:01:41 from the Atlantic.

2:01:43 What happened to his New York Times gig? Oh, that's an interesting question. A good observation. When this began, New York Times he was a New York Times columnist for twenty two years, and the other guy, Capehart, was a Washington Post guy. Now he's Now, which is zip, which, you know, pays nothing. So

2:02:01 so I I I

2:02:02 I heard that and I went, what? And so I had to dig back and I Brooks quit the New York Times in

2:02:10 or was ousted. I can't tell. And he wrote one of the he he

2:02:14 may have it's hard to say one or the other because it doesn't really say in his but he wrote wrote one of the going away columns in on January 30.

2:02:24 That's how long ago it's been Mhmm. Since since he's been out out of the New York Times, January 30.

2:02:31 And I read this column, which was like a was war and peace. This is a a column that ran over 2,800

2:02:38 words for an essay where he's moaning and groaning about the state of affairs in the country. People should go back and read this thing. It's terror

2:02:47 poorly I'm not gonna condemn other writers, but poorly written,

2:02:52 and it just rambles. It's like one of these, the type of essay you write when you when you're not given a a length, you know, make it 1,200 words. Make it 800 words. No. No. I'm gonna write until I Forever.

2:03:05 So he writes over 2,800 words Yeah. Ramble. Run that thing through Chad GPT, have it condensed. Come on. Everyone does it. So

2:03:14 and and so he says at the end that I'm going to big I'm I'm taking the leap and I'm going to bigger and better things, and he ends up at the Atlantic?

2:03:23 This the Lorraine jobs left

2:03:25 wing rag?

2:03:26 Soon to be sued out of existence?

2:03:29 Possibly. Mhmm.

2:03:31 So I just thought that was Yeah. Odd. I missed that one. Yeah.

2:03:36 And,

2:03:37 so anyway, so I I I I

2:03:39 just taken aback. So here's part two of this. We're Do think about that, Jonathan, as president Trump's Sorry. K part jumps. K part jumps in. Do you think about that, Jonathan, as president Trump's approval rating starts to soften, do you think more Republicans will will use leverage wherever they can find it? One can only hope.

2:03:56 You know, senator Tillis, he won this particular award because he made it clear for weeks.

2:04:01 He's not voting for anybody's confirmation until that lawsuit went away.

2:04:07 And,

2:04:08 you know, look. Give the Look. Give the the president a little bit of props here in that he's okay. Fine. Fine. Okay. Fine. The prosecution is over. I'm gonna get my guy in, and maybe he will he will do what I want him to do in interest rates. But we'll have to take mister Warsh at his word that he says that he's not going to be a puppet of the president. We'll see. And Powell's term ends next month. Does this episode change the dynamics around his departure

2:04:36 or the the the search, the the appointment, the confirmation,

2:04:40 the expected confirmation of his successor?

2:04:43 You know, I well, you know, if you're Powell, you're worried that they're gonna come after you again. And I think that's one of the reasons he's reluctant to leave,

2:04:51 because he won't have some certain protections.

2:04:53 But I I think he he kept on doing his job no matter what. And this was a very tricky economy,

2:04:58 with inflations rising,

2:05:00 and it was it was not expected that he would be able to drive down inflation without a recession, and he did it. That's amazing. And I thought what Kevin Morsch is a pick, the best possible pick that Trump could've had. We've I've seen him speak at conferences for years, and he's a serious guy who a normal Republican might have picked, which is not always the case with the Trump administration, substantive guy. So I think all things considered,

2:05:22 that part of the government is in reasonably good shape, and they have a gigantic new building.

2:05:28 A

2:05:30 big wasted money building. Again,

2:05:34 with the that part of the government.

2:05:37 Yeah. Good point. Isn't he an economist, this Brooks character?

2:05:41 No. I don't no. No. That's the other guy that I mean, no. Who am I thinking of? Yeah. You're thinking of the the guy who won the no pull Oh, no price. Whatever. Yeah. That guy. Yeah. No. It's a different guy. Yeah. Can't think of his name offhand. Yeah.

2:05:57 I mean, think

2:05:59 Warsh seems to be saying that he's gonna come in and he's gonna lower interest rates. Well, we'll find out, won't we? What would happen if he just said, boom, two points off? Would that would drive everybody No one's doing that. If they took a half

2:06:12 a point off, it'd be a big deal.

2:06:15 Why is that a big deal? What happens when you take half a point off? It frees up a lot of money. It lowers Yeah. Money. It it drops inflation. It should, because things get cheaper. It's cheaper to take out loans. But the but the main point is to lower the interest rates so that

2:06:30 the president can refinance the country.

2:06:33 Well, that's your thesis and I

2:06:35 Trump's a refi guy. He knows what to do. Well, he definitely is a refi guy. Yeah.

2:06:41 So well, you got beset in there. Well, we'll see. We'll see. We're at 39,000,000,000,000.

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2:09:04 I didn't get a lot of sleep.

2:09:06 Oh.

2:09:07 But I feel okay. Yeah. How's the monitoring going? How's that that,

2:09:12 the the telemetry that you're hooked up to now? I don't know. Yeah. I I won't find out anything till after the two weeks is up and they and they analyze it. Okay. But your chest is okay? You're just no pain? You're still still good?

2:09:25 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, I'm getting out now.

2:09:28 You're getting out? Oh, you're you're out around walking the neighborhood? I was I went to the Mercado the other day to do some shopping in the Mexican market. Oh, nice. Yeah. And do you have a guide with you? Do you have a No. I have Brennan's around in case I keel over.

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2:11:07 Macadamia nuts. Macadamia am I you know, you you will have to talk within the next couple of minutes, just so you know? No. I'm not eating anything. Are you hungry? Are you hung are you allowed to eat macadamia nuts?

2:11:18 You can't eat too many because I think it's a phosphorus

2:11:21 issue. Yeah. I don't know. There's I I got a I've you know, one of the things I got was a

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2:11:54 you know, with the regular the old fashioned pyramid, eat too many carbs. The pyramid. The old pyramid, not even the new pyramid? No. It's just it was just like I get I can't hear this, and then you get somebody who knows what they're talking about. I've had dietitians

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2:12:24 Okay. Anyway, that's my little rant. Yeah. Alright. Well, and how about the goop? How's your mouth? Because I know that was the biggest problem. What what do you have

2:12:33 salves and goops? No. I still no. I still my mouth will still dry out. It hasn't done that today. Mhmm. But it is it's hard to predict

2:12:42 why and when.

2:12:43 And the and the fluids?

2:12:46 Fluids.

2:12:47 Are they are they still draining you?

2:12:50 No. I haven't been drained for a while. But do you have fluid? Are you sloshing when you walk? I I don't feel the slosh.

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2:13:02 What has been It brought

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2:21:43 Dame Trinity and I were the lucky winners of the an Indy in a meetup raffle.

2:21:50 We wanna encourage everyone to attend at least one meetup. We have attended meetups in North Carolina, Tennessee, Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan, and Illinois,

2:22:00 and have to say that the Indy NA meetup is the best.

2:22:05 Yeah. It is probably one of the best. That's for sure. Mark and Maria are the perfect hosts Hosts. And are really great people. The In the NA group is the best group we have.

2:22:15 Met in Gitmo Nation. We continue to pray for John's healing and return to his faith. Keep fighting the good fight. Sorry for the letter to your house, Adam. It was John's fault.

2:22:28 Like, how do these people get my oh, yes. I remember how they got my address. Yeah. Thanks, John. Good work. Jingles,

2:22:36 what? The, True People Church? Yes.

2:22:39 Jingles, prayers, boogie yeah. Brunetti gave me grief for that too. Jingles, prayers, boogity boogie, and little girl. Yay.

2:22:56 You've got

2:22:58 prayers.

2:23:02 Hey, coming in with 20426,

2:23:05 which is how he rolls every single time that with a $200 and date donation. It's Eli the coffee guy from Brentonville,

2:23:12 Illinois.

2:23:12 Another crazy gunning for Trump or staged assassination

2:23:16 attempt. Either way, we get we all get tickets to the media circus.

2:23:20 I'm just sad we won't get clips from the correspondents dinner. Well, hopefully, we'll get some

2:23:25 we'll get some within the next thirty days. Hey, heads up to fellow producers. We expect to run out of our Ethiopian Gucci

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2:23:46 and use code ITM 20 for 20% off your order. And as always, stay caffeinated says Eli the coffee guy.

2:23:53 Which leads us to Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado.

2:23:56 Thanks for finding my ad copy. It's a good thing, or I would have had to have a meeting.

2:24:03 Yeah.

2:24:04 As far as putting your No Agenda producer status on your resume,

2:24:08 which was the question we asked. Yes. We did. It's great if it's relevant to what you do. For instance, if you're a podcasting media in podcasting media or entertainment. Otherwise,

2:24:19 just include it on your LinkedIn where there's plenty of real estate for extracurricular

2:24:23 activities.

2:24:24 The logo looks cool and you can connect with fellow No Agenda producers. Now this,

2:24:30 knowing what to include on a resume is the difference between one that gets results and one that doesn't. For a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com.

2:24:40 That's imagemakersincwithak.

2:24:41 And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.

2:24:46 Jobs, karma, please. Jobs,

2:24:48 jobs,

2:24:49 jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

2:24:52 You've got online. Thank you very much, Linda.

2:24:56 Moving on, we have Dame Shell and sir Maggot from Millington, Tennessee, 15797.

2:25:03 Much love and prayers for you both. John, even though you've blocked me ages ago, I'm sending light and love to you.

2:25:08 I've never blocked her.

2:25:10 And I got the note on my regular email that she sent.

2:25:14 Well, know, I think sometimes when you don't answer, people feel you've blocked them,

2:25:20 which is odd. But that's, people don't understand how much email we get. They really don't.

2:25:25 And I miss good stuff. I'm sure I miss good stuff. Oh, yeah. We all do. It's it's very difficult.

2:25:33 Brody, Virginia Beach, Virginia, $150.

2:25:36 There's Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada 13333

2:25:40 to you. Christine Cortisol in Pensacola, Florida 123,

2:25:45 Buzz. Greg P Wadby in Peterborough,

2:25:48 Ontario.

2:25:52 Let me see.

2:25:54 Let me see. I've been listening long time. Here's a $100.

2:25:58 Thank you very much, sir bird oh, sir bird dog Eric Naus hit him in the mouth back in the COVID days.

2:26:04 You guys have really helped my wife and I look at everything that's presented by both MSM and independent media with entirely new eyes. So good.

2:26:11 Rebecca Haw in Franklin, Tennessee, that's where all the all the musician celebs lives live 9377

2:26:19 and

2:26:20 she says that we're worth more than most things she spends her money on. She loves No Agenda and both of us. 89 and my dad's 80 birthday today inspired a donation. Oh. Oh, she's a voice actor in a growing AI world. Oh, boy.

2:26:35 That's tough.

2:26:37 There's sir Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina with the boob donation eight o dot o eight and he is the Archduke of Luna and a lover of America and boobs and he says God bless America and boobs.

2:26:48 John Alberini comes in with $70.26.

2:26:50 Bill McFarland, Manassas, Virginia, double nickels on the dime, 55 dot 1. He says God bless. Douglas Johnson,

2:26:57 Lithia, Florida, 55. Thank you, John Adam for the many years of entertainment.

2:27:01 Ronald

2:27:03 Castinger.

2:27:05 Ronald Castinger. Roland Castinger. I'm sorry. In Bethesda, Maryland 5483.

2:27:10 Surprise, Knight of Astonishment in Yukon, Oklahoma 5444.

2:27:14 Christopher Wexelberger

2:27:16 in Leipzig in Germany. Yes, this is another warm invitation everybody for the Leipzig meetup on April 30.

2:27:23 Man, he he's doing a good job of promoting. I hope a lot of people show up.

2:27:28 Christian Grulich in Winter Haven, Florida fifty two seventy two, and he was very happy to see the hypocrite of the week return to the weekly newsletter. William Wilde, fifty two seventy two. David Oliver, fifty two seventy two. Nathan Gwyn, Jackson, Tennessee fifty two seventy two. Sir Tyler, Anchorage, Alaska fifty one forty nine. Matthew Dropko in El

2:27:49 Elyra,

2:27:50 Ohio $50.88,

2:27:52 and he says continued prayers for of strength for John's recovery. And here's your fifties, George Wushett in La Vernia, Texas. Brad McDonald, Mason, Ohio,

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2:28:08 Aaron Weisberger in Bend, Oregon, and that is a

2:28:13 Answer Yogi. Yes. It was I was about to say that, but you you like jumped in as if as if I'd run a stop sign. You you you stopped and you didn't run the sign.

2:28:25 And Sir Yogi in West Richland, Washington. I just think it's funny that Jay put the black line in the In the wrong spot.

2:28:33 She will be beaten within an inch of her life, I tell you. This will never happen again.

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2:29:33 Well,

2:29:39 we're gonna make it really short and sweet today because we only have one on the list, which doesn't happen very often. Rebecca Hall, who just got her karma. She wishes her dad a very happy birthday. He is turning 89 years old and he still reads the paper without his glasses. Happy birthday to you from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Now

2:29:59 before we throw out the title changes, we actually have two notes to read regarding these. We have,

2:30:05 Sir Hib of Hogtown

2:30:07 is how he started out but after his life altering brain aneurysm

2:30:11 experience,

2:30:13 which I think you can get in Vegas,

2:30:15 He said he would now like to be survivor of

2:30:19 aneurysm

2:30:20 and he says he can hear you grousing about it. I don't think so. Why would you grouse? I don't know. I couldn't figure out that.

2:30:27 Was baffling to me too.

2:30:30 He said, I beat the Well, maybe because it's not a title upgrade.

2:30:33 He said, I beat the odds big time. Thanks to God and some great doctors and this is one way to commemorate it. Okay? And then we have a title change from, Steve Cashman.

2:30:44 He says, I've been on the $33.33

2:30:46 plan for a while and with intermittent producing donations, I realized my PayPal account which seems to put me into double Baron territory,

2:30:54 $1,033.30.

2:30:55 I also donated various meetups,

2:30:58 so he's got a whole thing here. He says, so with your consent and with a sir Scott of the Armory's blessing, would like to be dubbed sir Steve with a v, Baron of South Austin.

2:31:08 I believe that's okay.

2:31:11 And he just said oh, he says, I lost my original knight ring. What?

2:31:16 This is a this is scandalous.

2:31:18 Can I pay something to get a replacement? I'm sure Jay can work that out with you. And he asked if you have a Dilbert esque story about office behavior.

2:31:27 You always seem to start them with, hey, Bill, is Bill real? He says. Is Bill real?

2:31:33 There's a lot of bills.

2:31:35 So

2:31:36 is that a yes or a no? Not offhand.

2:31:40 Okay.

2:31:50 Title change,

2:31:52 music,

2:31:53 and we congratulate sir Cashman who now becomes sir Steve with a v, Baron of South Austin, and sir Heave of Hogtown

2:32:00 who henceforth will be known as survivor

2:32:03 of an aneurysm and we're very glad that he did. That's

2:32:19 right. The Order of the Hearts. Two Red Knights to welcome today.

2:32:23 Who will receive that, very handsome looking pin, designed for you by sir Paul Couture,

2:32:30 and that goes to Commodore, Archduke of

2:32:48 heart.

2:32:51 I love that jingle.

2:32:53 Hey. Time for some meetups.

2:33:01 And we have Dame Annette who has put together one of those fabulous meetup reports for the Indianapolis Indie meetup. Hi. This is Dame Maria. And sir Mark. And we're celebrating the best Dame wife birthday

2:33:14 ever. Gary here just giving a shout out to Mike the Polymath. Happy birthday, and hopefully, you're here at the next one. Hi. This is Sarah over the map, and I just found out that Gary is not Canadian. In the morning, not her from Indianapolis, and to go off with Trevor and Gary, I'm just glad I'm not Canadian.

2:33:29 In the morning, John and Adam serve PBR street king to verify that we've got the best names and nights here at No Agenda here in Indy. Hail to the victorious dead. In the morning, Dame Trinity here in Indianapolis having a great time, and I wanna wish Dame Maria a very happy birthday. Happy birthday. Thank you. This is Viscount of Hamilton and the 2 pennies here with my wife, Dame Melissa. Sir,

2:33:52 just saying hello, and Dame Melissa says hello also. In the morning from Dame Melissa and Dame Squatting. This is Emily here shuffle crack spook here just to remind you that we are still in the middle of a shut down. Anyway,

2:34:06 I miss Annette. Bruce here just enjoying good company. Adios, locals.

2:34:10 In the morning, this is Shannon. I misread the invite. I thought it was a book club. As far as book club's club, this is foam finger number one. Hi. This is Cody Bongino.

2:34:18 I was the server for the No Agenda group and I had a great time. They're wonderful people. Hey.

2:34:27 Happy birthday, Dame Maria. I didn't realize that. I would have put you on the birthday list. I'm sorry about that. And nice to put your server in there. We love it when they put the servers in there. And you know, I someone just I listened to that meet up report. John, you know, it it truly is fortunate. There's one thing that is so I'm so happy

2:34:43 that you do not live in Canada.

2:34:46 Oh, yeah. You would have been a candidate for the maid. They would have been like trying to get you killed so fast. Oh, yeah. Don't you think? Hey, you wanna die dude?

2:34:59 Exactly.

2:35:01 Hey, we got a meet up taking place today on our show day. M one local one spring fling, it's, underway at, Brewer Becker in Brighton, Michigan. On Wednesday, we have the new North Toronto No Agenda meet up. I guess that's a new one. It'll kick off at 07:00 at All Star Wings and Rubs in Vaughan, that is in Ontario. We got a lot of people in Canada.

2:35:21 And we gotta keep a hold of those people because Canada's

2:35:24 trying to kill you. On our next show day, Thursday, the North Georgia quarterly meet up 06:00 at Cherry Seat Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. Also on Thursday, the

2:35:34 see if anyone shows up meet up.

2:35:38 This is our buddy in

2:35:40 Saxony, in Leipzig,

2:35:42 in Germany.

2:35:44 Okay. I really want people to show up for this meetup. It'll be at 07:00 at Goldhofen.

2:35:49 Goldhofen

2:35:50 I say in Leipzig. Come on, Germans. Show up for this guy.

2:35:54 Coming up in the month of May, we have meet ups in

2:35:58 Spavinaw,

2:35:59 Oklahoma.

2:36:00 Camp Hill, that's on the first. Camp Hill, Pennsylvania on the second. Buta, Texas on the eighth. Leiden on the eighth. Eagle, Idaho on the ninth, Santa Rosa, California on the ninth, Nashville, Tennessee on the ninth, on the fourteenth, Raleigh, North Carolina,

2:36:12 Fort Wayne, Indiana on the fifteenth, Los Banos, California on the sixteenth, Hixson, Tennessee on the twenty third, and also on the twenty third, Franklin, Tennessee, two Tennessee meetups at the same time. Squam Washington on the twenty fifth, and it goes through all the way into June, July as things see things in October.

2:36:30 These are the No Agenda meetups. This is where you go to hang out with people who will be very different from you, but you all have something in common and you will get along. You you might even meet your future mate. These are connections that give you protection. These people will be your first responder in any emergency.

2:36:46 They make you stable so you're able. Noagendameetups.com.

2:36:50 Go find one near you if you can't at noagendameetups.com.

2:36:53 You can enter all the information and start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. Noagendameetups.com.

2:37:19 And we're coming up on John's tip of the day. Everybody loves a good tip of the day. The the McMaster

2:37:25 tip was

2:37:27 outrageous.

2:37:29 People really love that. One of our producers, of our Dames out there, she's been working for McMaster's I think for eight years.

2:37:36 Yeah. It's funny and Is that Hardwork

2:37:39 sent me a note about how they get stuff from them too. So wait a minute. So they're just a pass through now? Is that what they are? Well, I guess they do wholesaling or something. I'm not sure. Oh, excellent.

2:37:49 Before we do that though, we always choose the ISO for the end of the show at this moment in the podcast. I have two. You have two. Looks like you're you're back on a track. Do you wanna start or do you want me to go? Go. Okay. Here we go.

2:38:02 Comedic gold.

2:38:05 I'm not a fan of that one. I think this is pretty good. We rate it a plus plus plus.

2:38:11 A plus plus plus. Okay. I have two of the two of variation on the theme. These are both the same with a variation. Oh, you mean you you change the temperature on the AI voice?

2:38:21 No. I just changed the the the wording. Okay. Dad Gummit,

2:38:26 that show was riveting.

2:38:30 Wow. He said it in such a riveting manner too. It's amazing. Let's try the second one. Dad Gummit, that show was riveting.

2:38:37 Donate people. Yeah. There you We'll have to use that one because we need to remind you to donate after you hear the tip of the day.

2:38:44 So

2:38:53 this

2:38:55 this tip

2:38:58 stems from the fact that I'm staying at my daughter's

2:39:01 place with Brennan,

2:39:03 her husband, and they don't have a grill.

2:39:07 No. What?

2:39:08 Yeah. It's American. It's un American. And this is meme. I mean, what? It's un American. Even meme wouldn't couldn't believe it. So I'm recommending a grill.

2:39:18 Not that this could be used for barbecue, but it's it's it's a grill that can be used for barbecue. It is I discovered this product

2:39:26 probably in the eighties,

2:39:29 when I was in Georgia, because I think the company's

2:39:32 it's in the South someplace.

2:39:34 And it's a company called Char Griller,

2:39:38 not to be confused with Char Broil.

2:39:42 Char Griller is a company that makes that makes grills,

2:39:45 and they make one particular one, their real classic one, which is I'm recommending as a tip of the day, and it's called the it and it's available at Lowe's supposedly exclusively,

2:39:56 although you can order it from Char Griller,

2:39:58 directly

2:39:59 from their website.

2:40:01 You can look up Char Griller.

2:40:03 And Char Griller,

2:40:05 the Pro Deluxe Charcoal Grill with an 850

2:40:09 square inch,

2:40:11 burner. The thing that or not burner, but, cooking surface.

2:40:15 The thing that's noteworthy about this being the perfect size,

2:40:19 you can use it as a smoker by pushing the the coals to one side and smoking on the other side of the thing. But the kicker is the fact that they have cast iron,

2:40:29 a cast iron grate for cooking. You cook on cast iron,

2:40:32 not the cheesy little

2:40:35 crappy little things that that Wire. The wire stuff. The wire. Wow. And so the cast and this is these they run around $200.

2:40:43 That's not that's not expensive. That's No. It's not expensive at all. Good best price.

2:40:48 Now there's a couple of things you should note. Well, can I ask you question? Don't you have to season that? Don't you have to season the cast iron before you use it? You know,

2:40:58 I Oh, you don't believe in that, do you?

2:41:00 I have mixed feelings.

2:41:04 A couple of things to note. Lowe's has it

2:41:07 as an exclusive.

2:41:10 Exclusive. But,

2:41:12 supposedly exclusive.

2:41:14 Exclusive. And so them the competition is Home Depot.

2:41:17 Mhmm. So if you want a home Home Depot has the exact same product called the 21 I think it's the twenty one thirty.

2:41:26 It's pretty much the exact same product called the Blazer.

2:41:31 And it's slightly

2:41:32 cheaper,

2:41:33 but it's the same thing. The only difference seems to be cosmetic.

2:41:37 And instead of having wood

2:41:38 shelves or shelves on the outside you can put put stuff on, the shelves, instead of being wood, they're metal and slightly different looking.

2:41:47 But it's but from what I can tell, it's still got the cast iron

2:41:50 grate,

2:41:51 and it still should cook pretty much the same way. Now I've been using these. I've gone through three of these personally.

2:41:57 Do you mean that they don't they don't last or you're just that old? Well, I don't put a tarp on them and I let them rot. You let them rot?

2:42:05 They last about five years if you let them rot.

2:42:08 And you get a new one. Yeah. It's no big deal.

2:42:12 You can paint them, you know, to keep them kind of in good shape.

2:42:16 But and, you know, they get kinda beat up after a while anyway.

2:42:19 But this

2:42:21 grill, the char griller

2:42:24 grill is fabulous.

2:42:26 And the one at at Home Depot,

2:42:30 which is the Blazer, which I would take a look at, is currently on sale for $1.49,

2:42:36 which is a steal for a real life. This is a tip within the tip.

2:42:40 Yeah. Tip within the tip. Double tip. Wow.

2:42:44 Well, that is that is a that is a good deal. Can you have it shipped or you have to pick it up? You can actually have it shipped. And in fact, you can if you order from the factory,

2:42:53 they currently, if you go to the website for Char Griller,

2:42:56 you will they'll ask you, would you like to get on our newsletter? This will give you free shipping. Yeah. So you sign up for the newsletter, you should be able to get the things shipped free. And they're pretty heavy. I

2:43:06 think the first one I bought had shipped out. And is there some assembly

2:43:10 required? Yes. Yes. Well, you obviously yeah. That is the piece I always hate. Now you can if you get them from if you get them from

2:43:18 I I know too much. If you get them from Lowe's, you can click a box and they'll assemble it for you. You do know a lot. When's the last time you you used one? You used anything outside?

2:43:29 Well, I have not since the operation.

2:43:31 Oh, okay. I bet you can't wait to get back to your

2:43:34 Cooking over fire like a man. There you go, everybody. John's tip of the day. You can find him@noagendafun.com

2:43:40 and tipoftheday.net.

2:43:50 And,

2:43:53 again, we come to the end of our broadcast.

2:43:57 But you wanna stick around if you're listening on your modern podcast app or noagendastream.com.

2:44:02 Unrelenting is coming up next and this is

2:44:05 an episode with a live kebab extraction.

2:44:09 It's Sir Gene and Darren O'Neil.

2:44:11 You never know what you get with those boys.

2:44:13 You never know.

2:44:15 Also, I think some really good end of show mixes. We have,

2:44:21 let me see. We got,

2:44:23 Robert.

2:44:25 How do I pronounce his name?

2:44:27 Robert

2:44:29 Skolnicki

2:44:29 Skolnicki.

2:44:31 There we go. Robert Skolnicki.

2:44:33 We have the dude named Ben named Chris.

2:44:36 We have Just Baker,

2:44:38 and

2:44:38 that's it, I think, for this particular episode. So those are the end of show mix. As we, of course, will be back on Thursday,

2:44:46 and we look forward to,

2:44:48 helping you understand what's going on in the world once again as we break down and deconstruct all media.

2:44:55 Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, a very balmy and misty Fredericksburg,

2:45:00 Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Refinery Row in Northern California, I'm John C. Dvorak. Please join us here again same time, same place on Thursday for your No Agenda show. Until then, remember us at noagendadonations.com.

2:45:15 Adios, mo foes, a hooey hooey and such.

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2:45:21 Podfather,

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2:45:31 They have the technology.

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2:45:43 AI is ruining the art. How we ruin the end of show mixes.

2:46:04 Oh, it's slop, but I love it.

2:46:12 Neo luddite.

2:46:15 Says the humans had the run,

2:46:17 now it's bits and bites.

2:46:21 Crossed his arms and smirked. This track is slop on my beer, Adam.

2:46:27 Watch the needle drop.

2:46:30 AI

2:46:30 Slop is here to stay. They want more slop. Give me slop. I love it.

2:46:41 AI Swap. It's called

2:46:48 AI Swap. This

2:46:52 is a Luddite thing.

2:47:00 The mutant party track, classic rock bones,

2:47:04 ham and organ through a neural net.

2:47:07 Frequencies

2:47:52 I pulled out my phone and they started to laugh. What is this relic? Said the medical staff that gave me an android. Said mine was too old while I'm strapped with gear and doing what I'm told.

2:50:56 Adios,

2:50:57 mofo. Dvorak.org/na.

2:51:01 Dadgummit.

2:51:02 That show was riveting.

2:51:04 Donate, people.