Bug Bulb

0:00 I've been misgendered.

0:01 Adam Curry, John C. DeVora.

0:04 It's Thursday, May 7th, 2026.

0:06 This is your award-winning Kibble Nation media assassination episode 1866.

0:10 This is no agenda.

0:12 Completely meatless.

0:15 And broadcasting live from the hotel with the flaming logo at Stupel Airport in Amsterdam,

0:20 the Netherlands in the morning, everybody.

0:22 I'm Adam Curry.

0:23 And from the refinery row, where we're wondering, is that war over or what's going on?

0:29 I'm John C. Dvorak.

0:30 It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.

0:34 Yeah, you just don't sound yourself.

0:36 Well, maybe it's the rig.

0:38 Maybe it's Linux.

0:38 I don't know.

0:39 I don't know.

0:40 In the morning.

0:41 Well, you're not even in the country.

0:43 No, but that shouldn't make any difference.

0:45 I can't seem to get any high end out of you.

0:48 And then all I get is you.

0:50 That's the low end you said that was missing.

0:52 No, it's not.

0:53 It's your voice.

0:53 No, you've transformed.

0:55 Yeah, you've transformed.

0:59 You're trans.

1:00 You sound trans.

1:02 I don't know.

1:02 I'm trans now.

1:04 That's good.

1:04 You sound like your voice is an octave higher.

1:08 I've been misgendered.

1:10 I think you're right.

1:13 I've been misgendered.

1:15 Yeah, here we are, Amsterdam, the Netherlands.

1:18 It's been a rough couple of hours for me here.

1:21 Ooh, now we have stories to tell.

1:24 Well, it's not all that exciting other than we left the house at 11 a.m. yesterday to San Antonio.

1:33 San Antonio to Atlanta went fine.

1:35 And then we sat on the runway for a long time because of the storms in Atlanta, which shortens the sleeping time on the aircraft because...

1:46 Why don't you sleep while you're sitting on the runway?

1:48 Well, you know, it's just thanks.

1:51 That didn't work.

1:53 And, you know, so then everything's later and then there was a lot of turbulence.

1:59 And Tina, who normally doesn't, normally she doesn't like turbulence, she bopped right off.

2:04 She's like, oh, boom, she's gone.

2:06 I'm sitting there like, I still feel the turbulence when I'm walking around.

2:11 So we got in much later than expected.

2:14 I didn't get as much sleep.

2:17 And I've had nothing but technical problems here today.

2:20 Oh, no.

2:21 And I tested the whole rig

2:24 Everything tested it out

2:25 Everything's fantastic

2:26 And then the minute we got to go live

2:28 The whole stream system

2:29 All my credentials

2:31 Popped out

2:32 And this hotel

2:34 Maybe Lennox is illegal in Holland

2:38 It will be

2:39 You know what's illegal in Amsterdam?

2:41 Advertising meat

2:43 What?

2:45 Yeah, you heard me

2:46 Come on

2:48 Yes

2:48 yes advertising meat so you can't what about advertising a hamburger no no you cannot advertise

2:57 a hand you cannot advertise meat in amsterdam in just in amsterdam or the whole country no

3:03 amsterdam amsterdam is its own special uh its own special policies yeah you can't advertise

3:09 there's no advertising of meat products in amsterdam wow yeah and it's the climate change

3:17 people oh my god i got to i got some climate change clips yeah well first let me finish my

3:23 report so this please this hotel we always stay at the at the airport hotel um they have a huge

3:31 logo on the side of the hotel two days ago the logo caught fire and they on the outside of the

3:40 building and they evacuated all 280 people so i guess we're kind of lucky that we didn't show up

3:47 earlier yeah i guess so yeah and so i've literally been in the hotel room getting set prepping

3:55 getting ready fixing stuff you know the usb is disconnecting it's just it's it's one thing after

4:03 another today the gremlins are in the machine so i'm completely relying on you to drag us through

4:08 the show and i can do it and i want to remind everybody this is a value for value production

4:15 which again people seem to have forgotten uh which means uh near the end of the show the word

4:23 the trouble hold on a second people should know that you have to go through a rigmarole a lot of

4:29 trouble we keep we keep doing this show when either one of us travels i stopped traveling

4:34 after covid but adam still takes a trip or two and this is a pain in the ass but we do it to

4:41 we do it yeah we do it we work on holidays too yeah work on i mean i'm here to see my daughter

4:47 i'm here you know to to see her for a couple of days you could be seeing your daughter right now

4:51 instead of doing this show i could be doing a lot of things instead of doing this show

4:56 so we just ask you to support us if you get any value from it if this is of no value to you then

5:02 okay well we'll figure something else out you know i think it's the news cycle what do you mean

5:07 the news cycle there's i don't think the news cycle is attractive really oh i think i think

5:13 it's incredibly attractive there's there's lots of fun things to talk about yes but they're all

5:20 minor they're not like big trends or anything that's gonna change the world no i think you're

5:25 wrong no no i think you're wrong what happened is we have too many big things you know it's like

5:31 we barely got out of covid barely you know if you really think about it people are still

5:37 traumatized by that that was a good one that was a big one um then we've had epstein files but it's

5:44 all unsatisfactory you see people they're not getting any they can't get no satisfaction

5:50 and so they're just mad about everything and and you know and and we're not the guys that uh

5:57 that are just, you know, cynical all the time.

6:00 And we're not pumping it up.

6:03 And saying everybody sucks.

6:04 But let me start off with just a fun little 37-second clip

6:08 just to give everybody ideas.

6:09 Speaking of COVID, you know Questlove?

6:13 Questlove?

6:13 By the way, I want you to do some follow-up on this not-advertising meat.

6:18 Okay.

6:19 It's been going on for a while, but now it's official.

6:22 So you know Questlove?

6:23 Questlove?

6:24 No.

6:25 Yeah, I think he's, isn't he with, isn't he in Jimmy Kimmel's band?

6:30 Or maybe Jimmy Fallon's band?

6:35 No, Fallon's band has got a name.

6:37 Oh, he was in someone's band.

6:40 He was in someone's band.

6:42 He was one of those late night show bands.

6:44 I think it could be, I think you might be thinking about the guy who's now off, the British guy.

6:51 No, no, no, no, no.

6:54 I'm waiting for the Troll Room to tell me.

6:56 Anyway, Troll Room.

6:57 Troll Room is slow.

6:58 Yeah, it was, what?

7:00 Kiltow?

7:01 No.

7:01 Anyway, when you hear the guy, you'll recognize.

7:03 I'm pretty sure he was in one of those late night TV show bands.

7:09 And so this guy is, yeah, it was Fallon's band.

7:14 See, I know him, right?

7:15 Fallon's band.

7:16 So if you're in Fallon's band.

7:18 Fallon's band is The Roots.

7:19 Yeah, Questlove and The Roots.

7:21 Exactly.

7:22 Okay.

7:24 Thank you. So if you're in Fallon's band during COVID, what are you going to do?

7:30 I don't know. What are you going to do?

7:33 You're going to take the shot.

7:34 Of course, you have to take the shot that's required.

7:37 And all of your buddies are going to take the shot.

7:42 They have to take the shot. That's what it was an edict.

7:45 Listen to this.

7:46 In the last year alone, and, you know, I've wondered, is there a pandemic happening that I'm not aware of?

7:55 I'll say for me, in the last eight months, I've lost 11 friends to stage four cancer.

8:06 Oh, my God.

8:07 Like, even the day that I found out D'Angelo had cancer, D'Angelo was the sixth person in a 24-hour period that broke the news to me.

8:16 And even then, it was, like, in humor because five other people had broke the news to me, like, earlier that day.

8:23 I mean, this is bad.

8:25 This is no good.

8:29 Yeah, that's a lot of people.

8:30 Yeah, 11 people that he knows.

8:32 Holy crap.

8:33 Yeah, that's a lot.

8:34 Yeah, so, you know, so people don't want to hear this.

8:37 I don't want to hear that. Although, hold on, I know you got a three by three, but I might as well roll out this one while we're at it.

8:42 The Food and Drug Administration has withdrawn the publication of studies that tracked the safety of the COVID-19 and shingles vaccines.

8:50 A spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human Services says the studies drew broad conclusions that were not supported by the underlying data.

8:59 Health officials say the COVID-19 vaccines and shingles vaccines are safe.

9:04 Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has expressed doubt about the safety and efficacy of several vaccines.

9:11 Yes, exactly.

9:13 Can you read the writing on the wall?

9:15 My Lord.

9:17 No, they can't.

9:18 In fact, it's embarrassing.

9:19 And I will say this about that, pulling those studies.

9:23 The pushback on that was, there they go.

9:27 There's Kennedy doing his anti-vax thing.

9:30 They're not paying any attention to the underlying reasons they did this, which was they drew conclusions that weren't valid conclusions to draw from the data.

9:40 That's the reason they did it.

9:42 And I see more anger about, oh, look, there's another example.

9:49 This is just Kennedy's anti-vax thing.

9:53 This is known as being an anti-vaxxer, and this is proof.

9:57 Yeah.

9:58 Well, let's go to the next one.

10:00 Before we even do your three-by-three, do you have any...

10:02 No, the three-by-three is about Iran.

10:03 No, no, no.

10:04 We can do that in a minute.

10:06 I want to do hentavirus.

10:07 Do you have a hentavirus?

10:09 I may have a hentavirus.

10:11 Because I'm loaded for bear on the hentavirus.

10:13 Let me hit you with it.

10:15 Let's go with it.

10:16 Let me hit you with the hentavirus.

10:17 Two cases of hentavirus have been formally confirmed

10:20 after three people died in a suspected outbreak

10:23 on a cruise ship off the coast of West Africa.

10:26 A British crew member requires urgent medical care

10:29 and a passenger from the UK remains in a critical but stable condition.

10:33 The World Health Organization says it has identified a total of seven cases in the outbreak.

10:38 Our correspondent, Pumza Filani, has more.

10:41 What we've heard overnight from the cruise line owners, a company called Ocean Expeditions,

10:48 is they've confirmed that they are currently working on plans to carry out a medical evacuation

10:54 of two crew members who are still on board that MV Honduras cruise ship off the shoreline of Cape Verde.

11:01 Now, this is because they've not been allowed to disembark the 149 passengers

11:06 who are from various nationalities around the world.

11:09 The local authorities there have expressed concern that they don't know the full details of the disease

11:16 and they're concerned what that would mean for the population.

11:19 So they've so far...

11:20 I killed the clip accidentally.

11:24 The point of this is that, for whatever reason, Hentavirus keeps coming up in our lives over and over and over again.

11:36 Let me take you back to episode 1362, July 2021.

11:45 and then there's another weird report weird um this has cropped up many times but it seems uh

11:53 orto hanta virus is cropping up here and there the last time it was a big news story was in 2013

12:00 of all places camp curry in yosemite yeah hanta would be uh it's places like camp curry and it's

12:07 mouth it's from from mice right it's a yeah it's mouse crap but if you read if you read about it

12:14 uh hantavirus uh single-stranded envelope negative sense rna virus rna uh so that already

12:23 caught my eye like oh it's rna might have something to do with if you look at the symptoms

12:26 man it's very very similar to uh to covid very and it's um it gets it's in your airways as well

12:36 yeah so i don't know if that could be mistaken for it or god knows what hant has never had

12:42 huge numbers.

12:43 So that was

12:46 2021. I didn't go

12:49 back to 2013, but this

12:50 is just last year.

12:52 In other health news, researchers with

12:58 Virginia Tech are warning of a

13:00 disease they say has pandemic potential.

13:03 Pandemic potential?

13:04 I like the alliteration. Pandemic

13:08 potential.

13:10 It's too long, but it would have been a show title.

13:13 What's that, John?

13:14 Pandemic potential.

13:15 Tonight, NBC News learning two U.S. flagships.

13:19 Wait, what's going on here?

13:20 Stop what's happening here.

13:22 Stop.

13:23 That we hadn't heard of for years, but now all of a sudden has pandemic.

13:27 Oh, my goodness.

13:28 What's going on here?

13:30 Double curry.

13:32 Everything's out of control.

13:33 All right, here we go.

13:34 Potential.

13:34 Well, first of all, I mean, the real one would be bird flu, but it's probably measles.

13:41 It's called Hantavirus.

13:42 You may have heard about it recently.

13:43 Oh, yeah, Hantavirus.

13:44 I should have guessed that one.

13:47 Easy, easy, easy.

13:48 It's called Hantavirus.

13:50 You may have heard about it recently.

13:51 It's the infection that killed Gene Hackman's wife.

13:54 And it also caused three deaths in California recently.

13:57 That's right.

13:58 The virus is commonly spread throughout rodent droppings and urine or saliva and can cause serious illness in humans.

14:06 How can that be?

14:07 How can that?

14:07 Does it transfer from human to human?

14:10 How can it have pandemic potential if you get it from rat poop?

14:14 You get it from rat or mouse poop and saliva.

14:18 I don't get this beyond me.

14:21 I love how you're talking to Adam from 2025 while the clip is playing.

14:25 Yeah, I'm talking to him.

14:26 We'll get back here.

14:27 That was great.

14:27 Adam, grow up.

14:29 That was great.

14:29 What do you mean, grow up?

14:30 Yeah.

14:32 The thing is, though, there's more than one kind of Hentavirus.

14:38 This is the part that gets confusing.

14:40 Now we're in today's world.

14:42 There's lots of different hantavirus around the world.

14:45 Most of it is in eastern China, where it's a different form.

14:50 It's a hemorrhagic fever.

14:52 That's, you know, when you can have bleeding and it can cause kidney failure.

14:58 But in the Americas, it's a different form.

15:01 It's called HPS, Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome, where you can have sort of a cardiovascular collapse and a respiratory or pulmonary lung collapse.

15:11 Unfortunately, in the Americas, it can be one of the strains is the Andean strain, and that can have a mortality between 25 and 50 percent.

15:21 Yeah.

15:21 So it's the most dangerous and the most mortal of all of the Hantaviruses.

15:25 Most of the hantavirus cannot be transmitted through human-to-human contact, but the Andean form can be.

15:32 It's still rare, but there have been reported cases of human-to-human transmission.

15:36 In the Americas, it tends to be a respiratory virus that starts off with nonspecific symptoms,

15:42 fevers, gastrointestinal symptoms, but then very rapidly can affect the heart and lungs

15:48 and cause a fatal type of pneumonia setup,

15:52 or what we call ARDS,

15:54 which stands for acute respiratory distress syndrome.

15:57 Basically, the lungs can get filled up with fluid,

16:00 and it's very severe.

16:02 The most likely way of getting this,

16:04 all forms of hantavirus,

16:06 is through close contact with rodent droppings,

16:09 urine, you know, secretions,

16:12 and it is not through human-to-human transmission.

16:14 That's why the general population

16:15 does not have to be concerned about getting this.

16:18 This is definitely not the next pandemic.

16:20 Oh, okay.

16:21 All right.

16:22 Well, that's disappointing.

16:23 Well, I have my cruise ship clip from NBC, which did a quick summary.

16:29 It's not that great.

16:31 Tonight, an urgent medical evacuation to take place at any moment.

16:36 Three people suspected to have the high-risk hantavirus on a cruise ship now off the coast of Cape Verde in the Atlantic Ocean, expected to be transported to the Netherlands using two air ambulance planes.

16:47 according to the Cape Verde Ministry of Health and the ship's operator.

16:50 Already, three people who were aboard the ship have died.

16:54 This, as new video shows health workers in protective gear

16:58 and supplies being delivered to the roughly 150 people on board, including 17 Americans.

17:04 I will also show you what my room is like.

17:07 Jake Rosmarin is a passenger on the ship and in a new statement

17:11 said that safety measures are in place, including social distancing and masking.

17:16 After the medical evacuation, Spain now says the rest of the people aboard the ship will be allowed to disembark at the Canary Islands, where the ship is expected to arrive in the next several days.

17:27 There, they will be examined and sent to their home countries.

17:30 It's very possible that you can be infected and not have any symptoms for weeks.

17:36 Oh, here we go.

17:36 Immunologist Stephen Bradfew underscores the severity of the virus.

17:41 If you get sick with the cardiopulmonary hantavirus, on average, there is a 35 percent death rate.

17:48 And that 35 percent is high when you compare it to other viruses.

17:52 That's right. Influenza is far lower. COVID is around one to two percent.

17:57 The World Health Organization says at least some of the passengers may have contracted the virus through human to human contact.

18:05 This is the part that I'm struggling with, human to human.

18:11 Yes, they have the talking points.

18:14 Human to human contact is one of them.

18:17 And the one you caught earlier there in this clip, which was actually kind of cool, asymptomatic.

18:24 Oh, yeah, of course.

18:26 See, they ran the asymptomatic thing at us during COVID.

18:29 They sure did.

18:30 Which is a key.

18:31 That's a key to success.

18:34 spread specifically

18:36 yeah so you could

18:38 not have any symptoms whatsoever

18:40 you're not sneezing you're not coughing

18:41 nothing you're just walking around

18:43 and you're fine you're in good

18:46 shape but you're spreading

18:47 you're like typhoid everybody's typhoid

18:49 merry

18:50 our trolls are so

18:53 jaded they're like

18:55 yeah bring back

18:57 Zika

18:58 where's Zika

19:01 we want Zika

19:02 Yeah, Zika was where it was at, man.

19:05 Yeah, so those two Dutch people died.

19:07 They died on the ship.

19:08 That's not, yeah, that's not, well, it's the cruise ships.

19:13 The only people who I know who go on cruises are Old and Andrew Horowitz.

19:18 I don't understand why that guy is so big on cruises.

19:22 Everything goes wrong.

19:24 I talk, Roger McGuinn's another one.

19:26 Well, but Roger McGuinn goes on those really high-end, luxurious, like, you know,

19:30 150 rooms and he does his special show and you know,

19:35 he refuses to do a show. He says he's, it's low. It's low.

19:40 It's just beneath him to do a show. He doesn't do a show. He does a lecture.

19:45 He brings his guitar on for his lecture. I know he does.

19:49 Yeah, of course he does. Cause he plays the guitar.

19:52 If you go visit him at his house, he's playing the guitar.

19:55 Can you imagine you're on a cruise ship, a high end cruise ship with, you know,

19:59 caviar and there's a bird an actual bird roger mcguinn a bird and then he just lectures you

20:06 no no no i i want my money back no of course we want him to play some songs so his lecture i'm

20:13 sure he lectures you but he's sure he'll play a song while he's like yeah yeah but do that riff

20:19 but that nobody can do that eight miles eight miles high riff he likes to show it off that's

20:24 different than Horowitz, who likes going on these things where people get

20:31 Hentavirus, they get Norovirus, they get all kinds of virus.

20:36 I can't believe that he still does that.

20:39 And then the cruise ship gets stranded or it sinks or capsizes.

20:44 Yeah, see, you're just being a bigot according to these guys.

20:47 I am a bigot, big time.

20:49 I cannot believe the cruise.

20:53 It doesn't have any appeal to me either.

20:55 Anyway, so there you go.

20:58 It's not the new pandemic.

21:01 When the M5M is saying that, I'm paying attention.

21:05 No, it's definitely not.

21:07 Well, they're hard up.

21:08 They're hard up.

21:10 Yes, because...

21:12 Asymptomatic, 35% death rate.

21:15 Remember when COVID first showed up, that had some ridiculous death rate?

21:19 Yeah, it was the same numbers.

21:20 It was similar numbers like that.

21:22 was yeah although i got that was asymptomatic and if you touch something you touch a bag of

21:27 potato chips and somebody else touches the chips don't catch it here's uh america's dr

21:33 celine gowder dr gowder thank you very much for being here we're in a post-covid world

21:38 post-covid world everybody that means pay attention we've got news for you that just

21:42 might scare you people are scared they hear about an outbreak and they're worried i know

21:47 you say this is not covid explain to me why so this is not covid the andes no it's not covid but

21:53 virus which a kind of hanta virus requires close prolonged contact between two people in order to

21:59 have transmission when we've seen this happen in the past it's been in the context of spouses

22:04 that kind of close contact what makes it really hard to contain is the fact that it's on the ship

22:10 and the timeline so you have this long incubation period you also have a period of time when people

22:16 can be infectious before they show symptoms so we've got 140 people on this boat 17 of them are

22:22 americans how do you deal with that population safely could they in theory come home safely yes

22:29 the risk of spreading this on a flight is very low they would need to be near a hospital that

22:34 has a heart lung bypass machine because that's what you need when you get really sick with

22:38 hantavirus but it is something that we can anticipate that some countries won't want to

22:44 accept them, right? And this

22:46 goes back to the Ebola days, 2014,

22:48 2015. Ebola days.

22:49 These passengers may well need to quarantine

22:52 on the ship.

22:53 That out-of-office message just got a little longer.

22:56 Dr. Cantor, thank you.

22:58 Remember,

23:00 she's the doctor whose husband dropped dead.

23:02 Pushed him to shot.

23:05 Come on.

23:07 Yeah, he was a reporter at the...

23:10 Wasn't he at the

23:12 Olympic Games or the World Cup?

23:14 Oh, right, the Olympic guy.

23:15 Yeah.

23:16 Yeah.

23:18 I kind of like the Ebola days.

23:20 Ebola days.

23:21 The Ebola days.

23:22 Yeah, it was good times, Ebola days.

23:24 Yeah, I remember them, good old days.

23:26 Remember that guy got off the plane and just, we were all waiting for him.

23:29 We had, we were all watching live on TV.

23:32 Yeah, the guy just got off the plane and went home.

23:35 He got off the plane, got in the ambulance, popped out of the ambulance, walked in like, here I am, Ebola guy.

23:40 Yeah.

23:42 And there was also some woman or something

23:45 that just jumped on her bicycle and took off into the woods.

23:47 Yes, I remember that.

23:50 Yeah, so I think, but you see, this is the problem,

23:53 is we've had so much news has just jacked us all the way up

23:59 that now we're just numb to it.

24:01 We're just numb.

24:02 Like, whatever, you know, Ebola, Zika, Penta, you know, okay, war.

24:10 Swine flu.

24:12 A swine flu.

24:14 It's got to come back.

24:16 Let's do your three by three.

24:17 Get that.

24:18 Now it's time for three by three.

24:20 It's an experiment.

24:21 Experiment by J.C.D.

24:23 Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC.

24:27 The never ending three by three.

24:30 That's right.

24:32 Three by three.

24:32 John's got the big headlines from the big three.

24:34 This is about the ceasefire in Iran.

24:37 And we're going to start off with, let's start off with ABC.

24:42 Tonight, even as Iran fires missiles and drones at American Navy ships and our ally, the United Arab Emirates,

24:48 the Trump administration insists the ceasefire is not over.

24:52 But today, a top Iranian official insisting, quote, we have not even begun yet.

24:57 Adding, we know full well that the continuation of the status quo is intolerable for America.

25:03 Here at home, the average price of a gallon of gas now topping $4.50, the highest it's been in four years.

25:11 price of beef soaring more than 15% over the past year. Yesterday, the administration launched an

25:17 effort to reopen the Strait of Hormuz to commercial traffic. But in the past 48 hours, only two

25:23 commercial ships have crossed, more than 1,500 stacked up outside. And late tonight, the president

25:29 abruptly announcing he was pausing the U.S. effort. It came after Iran opened fire on some commercial

25:36 vessels, including American Navy ships, which fired back. Earlier, Secretary of State Marco

25:43 Rubio emphasizing that didn't mean the U.S. had resumed attacks on Iran. This is a defensive

25:49 operation, and what that means is very simple. There's no shooting unless we're shot at first.

25:54 Okay, we're not attacking them. We are only responding if attacked first. This is a defensive

25:58 operation. Rubio then taking it a step further, declaring that Operation Epic Fury itself is over.

26:06 This, though President Trump's goal in starting the war to eliminate Iran's nuclear program, remains out of reach.

26:13 Ten weeks in, are we any closer to getting rid of Iran's nuclear material?

26:17 Yeah, but look, here's the way to think about Iran.

26:19 So their ability to build a shield behind which they could hide their nuclear program was wiped out.

26:24 That's a very substantial achievement, and that was the purpose of this operation from day one.

26:29 How do you get their nuclear material in order for this war to end?

26:31 Well, that's one of the topics that needs to be discussed.

26:33 I don't know about, I think you're linking it.

26:35 The operation is over.

26:36 Epic Fury is the president notified Congress.

26:39 We're done with that stage.

26:40 I love, I love this.

26:42 It's over, man.

26:42 What are you talking about?

26:43 60 days, 30 days.

26:44 It's over.

26:45 The thing is over.

26:45 It's a ceasefire.

26:46 We reset.

26:47 We're back to it.

26:48 We're basically, we're in March.

26:50 Okay.

26:51 We're in March now.

26:52 There's no war.

26:53 It's all good.

26:54 All right.

26:55 So that was ABC.

26:56 Who's next on deck?

26:57 Well, let's go to NBC.

26:59 Tonight, NBC News learning two U.S. flag ships that passed through the Strait of Hormuz had U.S. military security teams on board, two U.S. officials say, part of President Trump's new Project Freedom, meant to protect commercial vessels from Iranian attack.

27:15 Iran still targeted both ships with missiles, drones, and armed small boats, but the U.S. military intercepted the attacks and blew up the boats.

27:25 I call it a skirmish because Iran has no chance.

27:30 Iran today once again targeting the United Arab Emirates after this strike yesterday.

27:35 Today, the UAE saying it shot down more Iranian drones and missiles across the country.

27:40 They're bombing commercial tankers. It's just outrageous.

27:44 With Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying President Trump's new effort to open the Strait of Hormuz

27:50 by protecting ships from Iranian attacks was a critical defensive step.

27:55 There is no international law that allows you to say,

27:57 I'm going to put mines in an international body of water

28:00 and I'm going to blow up ships that don't listen to us and try to go through.

28:03 That's what Iran is doing.

28:04 This is a criminal act and someone needs to do something about it.

28:08 That bottleneck of oil tankers continuing to drive gas prices higher,

28:12 now reaching $4.48 on average in the U.S.

28:17 This NBC News analysis shows the price is highest on the West Coast and across the Rust Belt.

28:22 But Rubio defending the effort, he says, keeps the Iranian regime from getting a nuclear weapon.

28:27 If Iran had a nuclear weapon and they decided to close the straits and make our gas prices like $9 a gallon or $8 a gallon,

28:35 we wouldn't be able to do anything about it because they have a nuclear weapon.

28:37 And just moments ago, President Trump posting that at the request of Pakistan and others,

28:43 And because progress is being made in talks, he says, they will pause Project Freedom, which protects those commercial ships in the Strait.

28:50 All I can think of when I hear Project Freedom is...

28:53 Freedom!

28:53 Project Freedom!

28:55 Okay.

28:58 You know, Rubio should have said $14 a gallon.

29:01 It's not going to...

29:05 It's all going to come down.

29:06 The one thing is he doesn't exaggerate well.

29:09 It's below $100 today.

29:12 Yeah, it dropped like a rock because Trump came out and said,

29:16 he said, we're going to get the nuclear, they're going to drop the nuke program,

29:23 we're going to get the product that's buried under the ground.

29:26 I don't know how they're going to do that, by the way, since it's buried under the ground,

29:29 but he's going to get it.

29:30 And he made all these assertions, but he says, but if that doesn't work out,

29:35 we're going to bomb them again.

29:36 I mean, this is ridiculous.

29:38 It's fantastic.

29:39 What do you mean?

29:40 Yeah, I know. You enjoy it.

29:42 We have nothing but time on our side.

29:44 And here's what I keep hearing.

29:46 There are hundreds of empty tankers on the way to America.

29:50 Is this actually true?

29:53 I don't know. We only have so much.

29:56 I see no evidence. I see no evidence of this.

29:59 I keep looking at Galveston.

30:01 Like, you know, where are these tankers?

30:04 Yeah, it could be bull crap.

30:05 I think it may be.

30:07 Let's listen to your CBS version.

30:10 CBS, of course, I say for last all the time now because it's been taken over by Barry Weiss, but the CIA still runs it. Come on.

30:19 To the war with Iran now, the ceasefire is still officially holding despite attacks over the past 24 hours and despite still very limited movement through the Strait of Hormuz.

30:28 Secretary of State Marco Rubio said today the offensive stage of the war is over, but the U.S. military is now focused on defense in the form of breaking Iran's blockade and its hold on the global economy.

30:40 We have established a powerful red, white, and blue dome over the strait.

30:44 The Pentagon says 15,000 American service members are involved in Project Freedom,

30:50 which is from two American-flagged commercial vessels transiting the Strait of Hormuz safely.

30:57 American destroyers are on station, supported by hundreds of fighter jets, helicopters, drones, and surveillance aircraft.

31:04 More than 1,500 ships are thought to remain stranded.

31:08 The Iranian regime claims it still controls the Strait of Hormuz.

31:13 Iran's foreign minister referred to Project Freedom today as Project Deadlock.

31:18 This is really a classic question of chicken here and who will blink first.

31:23 Grant Rumley is a former Middle East advisor at the Pentagon.

31:27 Do you think that the U.S. military has effectively ended the de facto

31:33 Iranian blockade of the Strait of Hormuz?

31:35 No, I don't think so.

31:37 You know, the U.S. can can block nine out of 10 shots.

31:40 But if one of those Iranian vessels gets through and scores a hit, it has a large and disproportionate symbolic effect.

31:47 The U.S. says Iran has attempted to disrupt its operation in the Strait of Hormuz with cruise missiles, drones and boats.

31:55 But President Trump and other American officials say today that the ceasefire with Iran is still holding.

32:02 Yeah, and there's so much information of all sorts.

32:08 And by the way, someone just put a map into the troll room.

32:11 There does seem to be a lot of ships coming to our coastline here.

32:16 But there's a lot of ships.

32:20 You have no idea.

32:21 Breaking news.

32:23 Nobody knows nothing.

32:24 And then, you know, this projectiles.

32:27 Oh, it was struck by projectiles, according to the UK Maritime Observatory.

32:33 These guys sit on Twitter, and they watch for someone to post something on Twitter,

32:39 and they go, oh, we got a report.

32:41 And it's just in, a tanker has reportedly been struck by projectiles.

32:45 Projectiles, what is that?

32:47 It could be bananas, it could be hand grenades.

32:50 This makes no sense to me, projectiles.

32:54 In the Strait of Hormuz, the vessel was targeted 145 kilometres north of the city of Fijaria

33:01 in the United Arab Emirates, according to the UK Maritime Trade Operations Agency.

33:06 It is the second vessel to be hit today.

33:08 The crew has been reported safe.

33:11 And this came either shortly after or shortly before Donald Trump announced on Truth Social

33:18 that he would be escorting or the U.S. would be starting to escort ships through there tonight, our time.

33:25 Okay, so we have that report about projectiles, and then Ms. Now has this report.

33:30 So, David, speaking of reporting, I'm going to let you sort through this one for all of us.

33:35 Barack Ravid, of course, with Axios, is saying that a senior U.S. official denied that a U.S. ship has been hit by Iranian missiles.

33:47 It is obviously we're we're in the early moments of this.

33:51 So I certainly am not placing any sort of moral equivalency between government of Iran and the U.S. government.

34:04 I will simply say we have two eyewitnesses saying that eyewitnesses, the two ships were in fact hit.

34:12 according to al jazeera and we have one senior official right now uh on background telling

34:18 background means don't mention my name yes that no u.s ship was hit so hard to say and uh we will

34:28 need to wait at least a few hours before we get uh actionable information out of that area but

34:34 okay so no one knows anything and the press hears their questions for secretary hegseth are there

34:40 still concerns about mines in the Strait. And can you kind of clarify these reports of kamikaze

34:47 dolphins that we've heard about? What? I've heard the kamikaze dolphin thing. It's like sharks with

34:52 laser beams, right? The threshold of restarting is a political decision above my pay grade. What

34:58 I'll say is it's low harassing fire right now. It feels like Iran is grasping at straws to try to

35:04 do something across the southern flank to to your question david their command and control

35:10 structure remains very fractured and i think they're struggling to maintain control down

35:16 echelon at the edge but um we're still it's still pretty low level kinetics at this point in time

35:22 uh and i can't confirm or deny whether we have kamikaze dolphins uh but i can confirm they don't

35:28 okay you know it's like what happened to the mines there were my old mines they've mined it all we

35:34 have to close it up because of the mines well how come no mines blew up the maersk ship that we

35:39 escorted on the way on the way out there's no mines this is this has been another hoax

35:46 this whole thing here's the ceo of maersk maersk saying you know yeah we worked it all out and we

35:55 left with the u.s navy in this case here we were approached by the u.s government and and uh the

35:59 U.S. Navy specifically, saying that they wanted to take some ships out. We went through intense

36:06 preparation together with them, looked at all the aspects of the mission and whether we could

36:12 stand in for the safety of the crew if we were sending the ship along in that operation. Our

36:18 assessment was that the U.S. Navy had made an extremely thorough plan and that we felt comfortable

36:25 we could get the ship through without without risk and and then we conducted the operation

36:30 here earlier in the week and we're very pleased to see that everybody got safely on the other

36:35 side without without any incident so a very well executed mission by the u.s military and thank god

36:42 for that because then it means that the ship is free and the crew now can get back to doing the

36:49 work that they want to do and are supposed to do rather than be stuck in the gulf yeah so where

36:53 were the mines did we all of a sudden we know where the mines are or did our kamikaze dolphins

36:58 figure that out when will the media learn that this is all just bullcrap it really all is this

37:05 is this is a this is an economic game this is um sal mercogliano what's going on with shipping

37:15 he explains a little bit of how this works now this has led to meetings in london with what's

37:21 called the Joint War Committee. Now, I'll have a link below for this. The Joint War Committee is

37:26 made up of representatives of Lloyd's, the big insurer house, and other underwriters who

37:32 determine basically where insurance goes. If you look right now, the rate to go through the Persian

37:40 Gulf, through the Strait of Hormuz, was roughly about 0.15 to 0.25 percent of value to go through

37:49 the Strait. That's what you were paying above and beyond, and that was good for seven days.

37:53 Well, what we've seen happen is the insurers canceled this. So you get stories like this

37:59 from Jonathan Salls over at Reuters. London Marine insurers are expanding the Gulf high-risk zone as

38:04 the Mideast conflict escalates. So that joint war committee that met on Monday has determined that

38:10 they're adding high-risk areas around Bahrain, Djibouti, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar. They're expanding

38:16 out the danger area. Now, that danger area is going to require more money. The insurance rate

38:21 is going to jump from 0.15, 0.25 percent to anywhere from 1 to 3 percent. 3 percent is going

38:29 to be for U.S., U.K. and Israeli vessels because they are viewed to be high targets, not just U.S.,

38:34 U.K., Israeli flagged, but U.S., U.K., Israeli owned. And that is key. Yeah, that's all that

38:40 this is the the joint war committee a bunch of ex-spooks in the uk they they go to lloyds and

38:48 say well we think it's pretty dangerous over there why well we read on twitter that the uk

38:53 maritime observers they said that you know there were projectiles oh okay we better jack up those

38:58 rates the straight is closed again it's all it's all a scam it's been this way for for 100 years

39:06 there's nothing to do with mines or dolphins or i like the dolphins though yeah well the idea is

39:14 great of course of course so the dolphins aren't stupid no dolphin i don't think there's such you

39:22 can't have a kamikaze dolphin they don't want to die i'm with you i think after the first one blew

39:26 up i think the rest of it would get the idea this is not a good thing we're not we're not gonna we're

39:31 I can't do this.

39:32 Yeah, I got some clips from NPR about the U.S. combat operations.

39:37 U.S. combat operations are over.

39:40 Yeah, didn't you know that?

39:42 There's no more war.

39:43 We've heard the president say the war is over, nearly over.

39:46 It will be over in two weeks, several times now.

39:49 Is it actually over this time?

39:51 Yes.

39:51 Yeah, I mean, we really don't know.

39:53 I mean, Rubio says the focus now is on negotiations and that the U.S. is only going to be involved in defensive operations.

40:00 And what that means is very simple.

40:02 There's no shooting unless we're shot at first.

40:04 OK, we're not attacking them.

40:06 But if they're attacking us or they're attacking a ship, you need to respond to that.

40:10 But to your point, I mean, we also heard earlier in the day Trump expressing frustration that Iran's leaders had yet to capitulate after two months of U.S. military and economic pressure.

40:20 They should wave the white flag, the white flag of surrender.

40:25 In hockey, they say uncle, right?

40:30 You know, it just shows how things just are changing.

40:32 Wait a minute, wait a minute.

40:34 Do they say that in hockey or is that?

40:36 I don't know this.

40:37 That's at the schoolyard.

40:39 Isn't that where you're supposed to?

40:40 Yeah, it's in the schoolyard, not in hockey.

40:42 Where does that even come from, say uncle?

40:45 Flag of surrender.

40:47 In hockey, they say uncle, right?

40:51 You know, it just shows how things just are changing all the time.

40:54 Yeah, last night, Trump also touted what he called progress towards an agreement with Iran.

41:00 Has there actually been progress?

41:01 Yeah, it's interesting because Trump's words were very different than some of the messaging being delivered by Rubio,

41:06 who told us yesterday that the two sides were still trying to figure out what the specific issues each side were willing to negotiate about.

41:14 That's the object of this diplomacy, is to come up with some level of understanding about what are the topics that they've agreed to negotiate on.

41:22 We don't have to have the actual agreement written out, and one day this is highly complex and highly technical.

41:26 But we have to have a diplomatic solution that is very clear about the topics that they are willing to negotiate on and the extent and the concessions they're willing to make at the front end in order to make those talks worthwhile.

41:36 I mean, Layla, that makes it sound like they're very early in the process, which, again, is very different than the great progress that Trump is portraying.

41:44 You know, I thought they were down to a one pager.

41:47 They went from 14 points to a one pager, which may be the same thing.

41:52 I don't know.

41:53 I don't know.

41:53 They just say these things.

41:55 Yeah.

41:56 Exactly.

41:57 Maybe we should just ignore the whole topic.

42:00 No, no, no, you can't.

42:03 Because it's affecting everybody with gasoline prices.

42:08 That's what we care about.

42:09 Yeah, well, here in California, it's $7.11.

42:13 Yeah, well, that's your own fault because all the oil companies left

42:17 because of, you know, just horrible California.

42:21 And you've got $3, $4 worth of taxes on top of that.

42:26 so don't come crying to me, California.

42:29 I mean, and the big issue, right, is still the Strait of Hormuz.

42:32 More than 100 ships a day used to travel through that waterway before the war,

42:36 and it's only since the U.S. and Israel started this war

42:40 that Iran took control of the Strait.

42:42 So if combat operations are over, as we heard from Rubio, what—

42:46 Again, Iran took control of the Strait.

42:49 What does that mean?

42:50 Do they have a line of ships that are blocking everyone from going in or out?

42:56 this is no what they did was they said look we're we're sitting here on the straits of her

43:03 moves we got we got property right here and here's where the straits are we're gonna shell

43:10 anything that tries to come through but they didn't they've been doing it all along what do

43:16 you mean they didn't well how we we just took they sent drones they sent missiles they sent

43:22 projectiles you said so yourself all projectile we just took a ship out where where was the boom

43:27 boom boom from that none of it they were there was their break you you believe the media lunch

43:34 break you are lunch break yeah i mean that was rubio's big push and he said under no circumstances

43:40 can the u.s allow iran to normalize the idea that they can control the waterway but he also stopped

43:46 short of saying what action would take place now the secretary of state briefed the press on this

43:51 latest development. Is that unusual? Well, I mean, the administration really came across the board.

43:56 No, not for the future president. Yesterday with a stepped up message about the war,

44:01 Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Joint Chiefs of Staff Dan Cain, brief reporters, Trump also took

44:06 questions. And it just comes at such a big moment in the conflict as Americans continue to feel

44:11 kind of the economic pinch of all this. And Rubio said that Iran needed to make a sensible choice

44:18 that leads them to reconstruction and prosperity.

44:20 The alternative is growing isolation, economic collapse, and ultimately total defeat.

44:25 I know what the right choice is for Iran.

44:27 I hope that the people over there making decisions will make the right one.

44:31 Yeah, I mean, the message boils down to a mix of de-escalation

44:34 combined with this kind of tough talk, and it can be confusing at times.

44:38 Okay, NPR. All right.

44:40 So this brings us to the War Powers Act, which I find fascinating

44:45 because I hadn't really ever looked into it specifically

44:49 because it kind of never came up.

44:51 I think maybe, not even under Bush,

44:53 because that was different.

44:54 You know, it was the Twin Towers coming down was different.

44:59 But this Twin Towers, this War Powers Act

45:03 where you're supposed to have 60 days

45:05 and then you can extend another 30 days,

45:09 this is a very interesting constitutional issue

45:12 which goes back a long time in our history.

45:15 And there's a lot of misunderstanding about it, even in the hallowed halls of Congress.

45:19 Well, I do want to start with the Iran war.

45:22 We're approaching tomorrow's 60 day deadline for the president to come to Congress set by the War Powers Act.

45:28 House Speaker Mike Johnson was pressed on this deadline by my colleague, Ryan Nobles.

45:33 I want you to play. So I want to play for you a little bit of what he had to say and get your reaction.

45:36 It's time for Congress to weigh in on the war in Iran, especially now that we're past the 60 day threshold.

45:44 I don't think we have any active kinetic military bombing, firing, anything like that right now.

45:49 We're trying to broker a peace, and I would be very reluctant to get in front of the administration

45:54 in the midst of these very sensitive negotiations, so we'll have to see how that plays out.

45:57 But the Constitution specifically states 60 days.

46:00 What?

46:01 But the President has called it a war.

46:03 The Constitution?

46:04 Good catch.

46:06 The Constitution.

46:07 Well, this is why I dove into this.

46:10 Listen to this.

46:11 Not a war right now?

46:11 I'm saying that we do not have kinetic military action at the moment.

46:15 As President Trump has said, this is a war.

46:19 But what do you make of Speaker Johnson saying that the United States is not at war?

46:24 Well, it's a dodge from Speaker Johnson.

46:28 And, you know, after the 60-day mark, we begin 30 days in which the law is very clear.

46:36 The president has to withdraw U.S. forces absent a congressional authorization.

46:41 Being in the region, not engaged actively in kinetic force or kinetic action isn't what the law says.

46:50 After 60 days, he has 30 days to withdraw.

46:53 So absent congressional action, the law says the president has to bring those troops home.

46:57 So I just, when I heard that, like, oh, it's in the Constitution, I'm like, okay, let me go check my Constitution.

47:03 You know that's not right.

47:05 I don't think so.

47:06 So now we go back to Rubio.

47:08 The White House believe that these votes coming up in Congress are a moot point then?

47:12 Look, guys, I love talking about this topic.

47:14 It's about the War Powers Act.

47:15 OK, I love it.

47:16 I was hoping somebody would ask.

47:17 All right, hold on.

47:18 Hold on.

47:19 No, no, boy, you don't let me answer.

47:20 I got to answer the question.

47:21 OK, and I love it.

47:23 I'll tell you why I love it.

47:24 Because even as a senator, I said something.

47:26 The War Powers Act is unconstitutional, 100 percent.

47:29 Now, this is not the position of me.

47:31 It's not the position of the president of the United States now.

47:33 this is the position of every single president that has occupied this position since the day

47:38 that law passed it's completely unconstitutional now we comply with it in terms of like notification

47:42 because we want to preserve good relations with congress right and we do that but even as a

47:47 senator i would say that the war powers act is 100 unconstitutional and look i know some of you

47:52 whatever you want to say but this is not this president's position that has been the position

47:56 of every single presidential administration since the day that law passes an infringement

48:01 on the president's constitutional powers we don't acknowledge the law is constitutional

48:05 nonetheless we comply with elements of it for purposes of maintaining you know good relations

48:10 with congress and we want them to be involved and we want them to be informed i have gone on

48:14 capitol hill i don't know four times this year for all senators and all house members and intel

48:18 committee and gang of eight we want them to be involved in this but but i want to be clear on

48:23 the point of the war powers act it's unconstitutional and uh every president and

48:27 Every administration has taken that position.

48:29 Okay, so now I'm interested.

48:31 We've got people in Congress saying,

48:33 it's in the Constitution.

48:34 And then we have Rubio saying

48:35 the War Powers Act is unconstitutional.

48:38 So I had to dig and I dug so deep

48:40 that I wound up with the great one,

48:42 which was-

48:44 Mark Levin.

48:45 I did.

48:46 He had Professor John Yu on the show.

48:50 And when you learn about the War Powers Act

48:53 and its history,

48:54 it's actually educational.

48:55 Welcome back, America.

48:57 We're here with Professor John Yoo, who's probably, from my perspective, the expert on the War Powers Act.

49:03 He's been writing about it for 30 years.

49:05 You can go to all these journals and law reviews, and he's been duking it out with other professors.

49:09 You know, John Yoo, it's amazing.

49:12 I watch Bernie Sanders.

49:13 He immediately gets up and says, but Donald Trump there is unconstitutional.

49:18 You've got AOC, who, of course, we always turn to when we want some constitutional expertise.

49:25 She said the president needs to be impeached.

49:27 Now, these are two radical Marxists who really are not inclined to like the Constitution nor like our military.

49:35 What do you say to them about impeach the president over the War Powers Act?

49:42 Is the War Powers Act constitutional?

49:44 Let's start right there.

49:45 I agree with you, Mark.

49:45 I don't think it is.

49:47 The Constitution sets out the war powers.

49:49 Congress can't use a law to rewrite the Constitution.

49:54 And the Constitution says the president is the chief executive of the United States and he is the commander in chief.

49:59 The founders understood those phrases to mean that the president has the primary responsibility to protect our national security.

50:07 Alexander Hamilton in the federal's paper said energy and the executive is a definition of good government because he was explaining why are these clauses in the Constitution.

50:16 And he said it's response. It's necessary to protect the communities, our community from attack.

50:23 that doesn't mean congress has no power congress has the power to provide funds or to cut them off

50:29 that's how congress ended the vietnam war that's how congress ended the mexican-american war of

50:34 1848 and so when you go back to the days of madison the and then later the war powers act

50:41 it was phrased differently initially and they changed that specifically so congress would not

50:48 have this power they think they have the biggest right in fact in fact i i i think he took a lot

50:55 of guts to play mark levin stuff but he did a lecture once and explaining how madison

51:01 had it so that congress in the constitution it says congress can declare war yes well but the

51:10 but the original the original guys wanted to say congress can make war yes here's the clip and by

51:16 Changing it from make to declare.

51:17 The president can make war, and if they want to declare it, that's just, it shrunk the power.

51:26 I mean, to say you declare war doesn't mean that much if you can't make war.

51:31 Exactly.

51:31 It's just you declare it, and it's only been done, the last time it was done was in World War II.

51:35 Here's you.

51:37 Here's you explaining that exact switch.

51:39 The biggest mistake, as you say, of the War Powers Resolution is that it orders the president to pull out troops and end fighting after an arbitrary 30 days or maybe 60 days.

51:50 And that means that Congress is actually interfering in the way the military is conducting combat operations, which is the president's powers commander in chief.

51:58 And as you say, Mark, when the Constitution was first introduced in the Philadelphia Convention, the Constitution originally had said Congress has the power to make war.

52:08 And that was changed to declare war because people thought that gave Congress too much authority.

52:14 And I'd even point you to something else Madison said.

52:16 In the Virginia Ratifying Convention, which was the key convention to approve the Constitution,

52:21 Patrick Henry actually got up and said, he might have been the Bernie Sanders or AOC of his day,

52:27 and he said, I'm worried about the president going off on military ventures.

52:31 How are you going to stop him?

52:32 James Madison doesn't get up and say, the declare war clause will stop the president.

52:37 Instead, he says Congress will have to cut off funds because the power of the purse is the ultimate check of the people on the executive branch.

52:46 Exactly. That's how come Congress.

52:50 Why don't they do that? Why don't they say we're not going to fund the war?

52:55 Why not? What you just showed in your reporting in that clip, unfortunately, is that Democrats are playing politics with the Constitution and engaging in political posturing.

53:05 And while we have men and women in the field, the politics are apparent because, as you just pointed out, you can look at President Obama in 2011.

53:12 You could look at President Biden's strikes on the Houthis.

53:15 The Democrats only think that the Constitution demands Congress's authorization for war when Republicans are president.

53:24 When Democrats are president, these same people who are in the Congress at those times didn't raise a doubt, didn't draw anything into question.

53:32 And I have to say, President Trump put Congress on notice even more so than any of these past

53:38 Democratic presidents.

53:39 Not only did he move all these forces into the region over time, but he attacked Iran

53:46 just last June.

53:47 If members of Congress wanted to stop the war in Iran, they had plenty of time to use

53:54 the funding power, which is their ultimate power over war, between June and now.

53:59 And let's just say they know how to use the funding power when they want.

54:01 even when they pass a 900 billion dollar spending bill for the defense department they at the same

54:08 time close down the department of homeland security because democrats are upset about the use of the

54:14 border patrol in minneapolis so they know how to use the funding power they want to they just don't

54:18 want to because they want to engage instead in political posturing against a republican president

54:23 i think that's part of it i also think they're all in the bag for the military industrial complex

54:28 They have to be. It turns out someone did some research. There is one military industrial complex contractor in except for maybe one or two, every single congressional district. And they're all little, sometimes little contractors, but they're always providing a lot of jobs. The whole place has been co-opted by the military industrial complex. That's where we that's our real source of GDP.

54:54 yes oh i'm sorry israel apac no it's these guys yeah that's what you do because they do it you

55:06 know they've done a hell of a job every single state in the union has some kind of military

55:11 contractor so there's not going to be a single representative or senator standing up saying

55:16 we should pull the we should pull the plug on that no no and and sorry to let everyone want to

55:23 Get reelected.

55:24 Sorry to let everybody down, but we are a war nation.

55:27 It's what we do.

55:28 We're good at it.

55:29 We are good at it.

55:31 Only now we're doing it for us instead of for Britain and Europe.

55:36 Where's that clip?

55:41 So, you know, there's been all kinds of issues with Germany because Mr. Peepers thought he'd be cute and say,

55:52 trump has no exit strategy i had a bunch of clips on that for the last yeah i don't have them here

55:57 but but so he's trying to get back in graces good graces and says oh uh we'll help out we've got

56:05 something for you sent off with a fanfare in front of a crowd of curious onlookers

56:10 fulda set sail from the port city of kiel on germany's baltic sea coast on monday

56:16 the german minesweeper and its crew of up to 45 sailors are now heading to the mediterranean

56:21 and not to the Strait of Hormuz,

56:24 unless certain conditions are met, outlined by Germany's defence minister.

56:29 We are moving it in advance to the Mediterranean,

56:34 making all the preparations we can,

56:36 so in the event of a ceasefire, a lasting truce or a framework under international law,

56:40 we can obtain a mandate from the Bundestag

56:43 and as soon as that's in place, continue to operate.

56:46 Fulda will be at sea for about two weeks.

56:51 Germany has said the ship could be deployed to help clear underwater mines from the Strait of Hormuz

56:56 in order to secure shipping routes which have been severely disrupted amid the U.S.-Israel war with Iran.

57:02 German Chancellor Friedrich Merz has underlined that Berlin remains far away from such a decision.

57:08 20% of global oil and gas passes through the Strait of Hormuz.

57:13 Around 2,000 ships have been stuck since the war began at the end of February.

57:18 So the idea is once the war is over, then the Germans send their minesweeper to go find mines that don't exist.

57:24 All they're going to find is a bunch of kamikaze dolphins.

57:27 And for the troll room, when I say, yes, we are doing war for us, yes, we're doing war for us.

57:33 We have always fought wars for Europe and for Britain, except for the Vietnam War, and that was a really bad one.

57:42 And so what has happened?

57:43 In that case, that we were suckered by the French.

57:46 Yes.

57:47 We kind of fought that war for the French.

57:48 Thank you.

57:49 So when I say we're fighting it for us, we're fighting it because we have not gotten any of the benefit of what's been going on, particularly in that region, with oil.

58:01 None of it.

58:03 We got screwed over and over and over again.

58:07 And so now we have our own oil and screw Europe.

58:12 Speaking of Roger McGuinn, there's a time for war, there's a time for peace, there's a time for love, there's a time for hate.

58:19 It's just a fact of life. You're all dreamers. Dreamers.

58:24 And how bad is this war? It's not bad.

58:27 I know it sounds cavalier, but considering the benefit we're getting, and finally we're getting,

58:37 because everything is changing for America.

58:40 It's unbelievable how people can't see this.

58:42 And and maybe Trump will pull it off. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.

58:50 And and you know what, if you if you're talking about the new world order and and the day of the world, all you have to do is look at what's happening with the banking sector.

59:03 Look at what's happening with the Federal Reserve. You know, I had to look into that as well, because I wasn't convinced that the chair of the Federal Reserve is the only person who determines the rates. And it turns out he's not. And this is what's happening here with Chairman Powell saying, oh, OK, you can you can vote another guy in, but I'm staying on board so that he can tip the scales and they have more votes to do whatever the banks want.

59:32 it's banks it's banks the federal reserve this is not it's not government it's banks

59:36 here's uh tim scott i think he's on the finance committee you are also as most people know the

59:44 chairman of the banking committee he played a key role in moving kevin borscht as committee

59:49 to the full senate he'll be soon on a party line vote at least confirm this pitch here

59:54 yep um very soon um jerome powell the man he's replacing much to the chagrin of mr trump

1:00:02 yes um is staying on what do you think about that staying on as fed governor yeah it is

1:00:08 in the law that he can do it yeah so you can say to the end of 2028 or maybe middle of 20

1:00:14 january 31st 2028 is when he would have to get off the truth of the matter is he's breaking 75

1:00:19 years of precedent every time you get a new chairman the former chairman leaves that's

1:00:24 good news because what you don't want are these philosophies and conflict and i think jay powell

1:00:31 is making a significant mistake,

1:00:33 significant decision,

1:00:35 but really bad one.

1:00:37 I think it's for the country

1:00:39 and for the Fed,

1:00:40 it would be best if he left.

1:00:42 Right, because the Fed,

1:00:42 as you know,

1:00:43 the chairman doesn't have

1:00:44 due to a lot of control, right?

1:00:45 Just for people that don't know this,

1:00:47 he has to rule

1:00:48 by some sort of consensus.

1:00:49 Exactly.

1:00:49 And he would be there.

1:00:51 So how do you get rid of him?

1:00:52 Prayer.

1:00:53 Lord!

1:00:56 We need some prayer on this issue.

1:01:00 Honestly, I think it's going to be his decision.

1:01:02 All signs point to his departure before 28.

1:01:06 But I do think he's maybe just poking the president in the eye a little bit.

1:01:11 I don't think so.

1:01:12 I think he fully intends to stay on.

1:01:14 And here's how the actual interest rate decisions are made on the FMOC.

1:01:20 Fed governor is appointed to 14 years.

1:01:22 And once they are in that seat, they are extraordinarily difficult to remove by design,

1:01:26 both to keep the Fed independent from political pressure

1:01:29 and to stop governors from bowing to whoever happens to be in the White House in that decade.

1:01:33 And it is actually the governorship, not the chairmanship, that carries most of the real power.

1:01:38 Each governor gets a vote on the Federal Open Market Committee,

1:01:41 which is the committee that actually sets interest rates.

1:01:44 This committee is made up of seven governors from the Fed in Washington,

1:01:47 of which one is the chairman,

1:01:49 as well as representatives from five out of the 12 regional Federal Reserve branches

1:01:53 to make a total of 12 voting parties.

1:01:56 Out of this group, the chairman is more of a first-amongst-equals kind of role,

1:02:00 responsible for communicating what the Fed is doing, running the meetings,

1:02:03 and managing the institution's public face through press conferences.

1:02:06 But the actual decisions on rates themselves are made by a vote,

1:02:10 between everybody on the committee with everybody getting an equal vote.

1:02:13 Now, this is a problem for an administration that wants to use the chairmanship as a lever

1:02:18 to crank down rates, because even a friendly chairman can be outvoted by the other 11 people

1:02:22 in the room, which creates an even bigger problem for the administration.

1:02:26 Exactly.

1:02:27 So Trump wants the rates lower.

1:02:29 Everybody wants rates lower.

1:02:31 Everybody.

1:02:32 I want rates lower.

1:02:33 Everybody wants lower.

1:02:35 Yep.

1:02:35 Everybody wants rates lower, but they're political.

1:02:37 They're political.

1:02:39 And I think that, you know, you lower the rates for banks.

1:02:41 It's not necessarily good for banks all the time.

1:02:44 I think they're very concerned.

1:02:45 That's why Powell is staying on.

1:02:47 And this is how it balances out.

1:02:49 And Warsh, as good as President Trump thinks he is, will have no power.

1:02:54 Based on the current board makeup, are there people there who will disagree with Walsh, who would push back on some of these changes?

1:03:00 Absolutely.

1:03:00 And remember, monetary policy is made by a committee, the seven governors in Washington and five of the 12 Reserve Bank presidents out in the region.

1:03:08 And at today's meeting, three of those presidents basically fired a shot across Kevin Walsh's bow.

1:03:15 They said they did not want a statement that implied that the Fed's next move is to lower interest rates.

1:03:22 So he's not going to be able to do anything on interest rates very quickly because so many of the policy members are against him.

1:03:29 And he still has to deal on major changes in Fed communications and stuff.

1:03:34 He'll need a consensus of the board.

1:03:35 So I suspect this will be a slow process.

1:03:37 Exactly.

1:03:39 So it ain't over.

1:03:42 It ain't over at all.

1:03:45 And so what are they doing?

1:03:48 They're rebuilding the International World Order, formerly known as the New World Order, with the bankers.

1:03:55 And here is the central banker, Prime Minister Carney of Canada, and he's telling us exactly what they're going to do.

1:04:04 The world is undergoing a rupture across several dimensions in technology, in energy, in commerce, and geopolitics.

1:04:13 Integration is being used as a weapon by some, and the rules are not constraining the hegemons.

1:04:21 Now, we have to actively take on the world as it is, not as we wish it to be.

1:04:27 We know nostalgia is not a strategy, but we don't think that we're destined to submit to a more transactional, insular, and brutal world.

1:04:35 And gatherings such as these point to a better way forward.

1:04:38 In closing, we're here because of your invitation.

1:04:44 Again, thank you for that.

1:04:45 But we're here because of the moral and security imperatives of our cooperation in the caucuses, in the Baltics, in Ukraine, across Europe,

1:04:55 and also because of the immense potential for our partnerships to build a better, more prosperous, sustainable, and just world for our citizens.

1:05:03 And I'll close with this. It's my strong personal view that as the international order will be rebuilt, but it will be rebuilt out of Europe.

1:05:14 And so I'm very appreciative of the symbolism of this invitation.

1:05:18 Yeah, right, buddy.

1:05:19 Yeah, out of Europe.

1:05:20 Did you notice the code words he had in there that implied Trump?

1:05:24 Yeah, of course.

1:05:25 When you use the word transactional, transactional means Trump.

1:05:31 Trump. Yes. Yeah, because Trump is breaking that apart.

1:05:35 And it looks like the Macron brothers are the ones that are going to try and try and save the world or their world.

1:05:42 The president of France, Macron, goes to China, spends about six hours meeting with Xi Jinping.

1:05:47 And then on the flight back, he talks to a bunch of reporters.

1:05:50 And here's what he told the reporters.

1:05:52 He told the reporters, number one, that it's time for Europe to break away from the United States, not to depend on the dollar, not to depend so much on us,

1:06:01 to become their own third superpower.

1:06:03 The second thing he says,

1:06:04 which I found really interesting,

1:06:05 was that Europe needs to make sure

1:06:08 that they don't get involved in conflicts

1:06:09 that are not their conflicts.

1:06:10 Specifically, that Europe should not be picking sides

1:06:13 on Taiwan between the United States and China.

1:06:15 And so I think this is a good moment for us to ask Europe,

1:06:19 does Macron speak for all of Europe?

1:06:21 Is Macron now the head of Europe?

1:06:22 Is he now the most powerful leader in Europe?

1:06:24 Because if he is,

1:06:25 then there's some things we're going to need to change.

1:06:27 Number one, Europe, including France specifically,

1:06:30 has depended heavily on the United States for 70 years for their own defense.

1:06:34 In fact, when Macron tried to play global superpower and send troops to North Africa to fight terrorists,

1:06:39 he couldn't even get his own troops there.

1:06:41 We had to fly them there, and we had to fly them back.

1:06:44 He couldn't even get his own troops there.

1:06:45 So if they're going to break off on their own and follow Macron's lead, that's going to save us a lot of money.

1:06:50 Okay, okay, future president.

1:06:53 So here's Queen Ursula, and she's stepping up to the plate now.

1:06:58 continent like ours with limited fossil fuels resources should lead the world on electrification

1:07:05 this is the reason why last december we proposed the grits package its goal is to make our energy

1:07:10 and infrastructure fit for the electrification age and i'm very glad that last week in cyprus

1:07:16 the european parliament the council agreed to speed up the negotiations and as a next step we

1:07:22 will put forward our electrification action plan are they gonna electrify everybody i mean didn't

1:07:27 we didn't we go through the electrocute no yeah didn't we go through the electrification age when

1:07:33 you know in like the 1880 late 1800s and these people are insanely stupid by the summer with an

1:07:41 ambitious electrification target and speaking of finances in the current european budget we have

1:07:47 set aside almost 300 billion euros for energy 95 billion of which are not used so far i know i'm

1:07:55 preaching here almost in the wrong church but let us use this to make the switch now to electricity

1:08:00 not just in transport but also in industry and so she's talking about using electricity in industry

1:08:08 so are you going to use um windmills and solar panels for your steel is is that what i'm hearing

1:08:16 this this makes no sense and here's the numbers this is the second energy crisis within four

1:08:24 years. And the lesson should be very clear. Our over-dependency on imported fossil fuels

1:08:32 makes us vulnerable. They have a whole North Sea filled with fossil fuels.

1:08:38 Let me give you two figures. By the way, where does this electricity come from? So what she's

1:08:45 saying, or implying, I would say, she's implying that all the electricity, none of the electricity

1:08:53 Is he going to come from coal-powered generators or natural gas-powered generators?

1:08:59 No.

1:09:00 Or anything other than solar and wind and maybe some water?

1:09:04 No, nuclear.

1:09:04 She's going to add nuclear back into the mix.

1:09:07 Oh, well, nuclear's okay, but...

1:09:09 But they killed the four reactors.

1:09:12 If she wants to add nuclear, why did they shut down all the German reactors?

1:09:18 To kill Germany, which happens to be the industrial heart of the EU.

1:09:24 They want serfs.

1:09:27 They want dumb slaves to clean their homes.

1:09:31 What?

1:09:33 The culture.

1:09:34 Suicidal.

1:09:36 We've known this all along, that the Europeans are suicidal.

1:09:41 That's why they want war all the time.

1:09:42 I mean, like you said, we've been selling arms and ammunition.

1:09:46 We still will be doing that.

1:09:48 That's what we do best, is make this stuff, and they can go kill themselves.

1:09:53 So what is the show title that I need to write down?

1:09:55 I don't know.

1:09:59 What?

1:10:01 I hear your computer bleeping.

1:10:03 Is that you?

1:10:05 Yeah.

1:10:05 Oh, no.

1:10:06 No.

1:10:07 Okay.

1:10:07 Let's continue.

1:10:08 No, that's not me.

1:10:09 It's nonsense.

1:10:10 In just 60 days of conflict, our bill for fossil fuel imports has increased by over 27 billion euros,

1:10:20 without one single molecule of energy in addition.

1:10:24 So the way forward is obvious.

1:10:28 We must reduce our over-dependency on imported fossil fuels,

1:10:33 and we must boost our homegrown, affordable, clean energy supply

1:10:39 from renewables to nuclear in full respect of technology neutrality of technology neutrality

1:10:47 so does that mean i don't know but the problem is with the green agenda in the eu you'll never

1:10:53 get new nuclear plants it'll take decades decades for that to happen

1:10:58 already today member suicidal i said yeah again suicidal but suicidal culture suicidal

1:11:08 queen suicide and we got to come up with more low carbon sources in their energy mix

1:11:14 are less impacted by the crisis take a country like sweden if there the gas price increases by

1:11:23 one euro per megawatt hour the electricity bill only increases by 0.04 euros per megawatt hour

1:11:33 because almost all of Sweden's electricity comes from renewables and nuclear.

1:11:40 So this is how we insulate ourselves from future shocks.

1:11:44 And this is the path to independence of Europe.

1:11:48 The problem with Sweden is they got immigrants burning cars all day long.

1:11:55 So it's not all that fantastic in Sweden.

1:11:59 And luckily, this is a dead man walking.

1:12:03 This is the Polish member of European Parliament, Dominik Tarzynski.

1:12:07 And he laid it out.

1:12:09 And I hope he has good security.

1:12:12 You must have lost your mind.

1:12:14 In Spain, they just legalized residents of half a million illegal aliens.

1:12:18 In France, they throw grenades into hair salons in a broad daylight.

1:12:23 In Germany, not a single day goes by without someone being murdered with a knife.

1:12:30 In Sweden, for example, you have bomb attacks every other day.

1:12:35 I can continue, but you just don't care.

1:12:38 Those are not real problems for the European left-wing politicians.

1:12:42 No, you are going to solve the situation in Minnesota.

1:12:46 You are seriously discussing here the rule of law in the United States

1:12:49 and criticizing the American government for deporting illegal aliens,

1:12:53 for deporting criminals out of their territory in the same time

1:12:57 when Western European cities are gradually turning into war zones.

1:13:02 We should do exactly the same.

1:13:03 We should deport them from Europe and not legalize their stay.

1:13:07 We should listen to them and not what you are proposing to all of us.

1:13:12 Everybody can see now you are enemies of Europe.

1:13:14 You hate Europe, you hate our nations,

1:13:16 and you want to destroy the future for our children.

1:13:18 We should stop you, we should defeat you politically if we want to survive.

1:13:22 Otherwise, it will be the end of Europe.

1:13:24 Yes, exactly. The end of Europe.

1:13:27 Classic's been floating around.

1:13:28 That guy's great. He's great.

1:13:30 Yeah, he's the Nigel Farage of the era.

1:13:34 Yeah.

1:13:34 Without the understatement. No understatement with this guy.

1:13:39 No, more of him. More of him.

1:13:41 So something that we've been talking about on the show for at least five years, ever since I met Texas Slim.

1:13:53 and this and i'm going to play these clips because it shows you how long it takes government to get

1:14:02 anything together to get anything done even in a government that actually wants to get stuff done

1:14:08 this is about the meat packers and texas loom was was you know was screaming this to high heaven

1:14:15 like you know there's a cartel the meat packers they're not even american companies

1:14:20 They're screwing the ranchers.

1:14:22 This is why we have the lowest herd count ever,

1:14:25 not because of drought and all these other bull crap reasons.

1:14:29 No, because there has been an absolute cartel of beef in the United States,

1:14:35 and so now they're doing something about it with the new A.G. Barbie,

1:14:39 the A.G. Ken, A.G. Ken Barbie, Todd Blanche.

1:14:43 All right, good morning, everybody.

1:14:45 Today, we are here to talk about our progress here at the Justice Department to hold meatpackers accountable.

1:14:54 As you all know, last November, the President tasked the Department to investigate the costs and prices of beef.

1:15:02 As a result, we prioritized investigating potential antitrust violations in U.S. cattle and beef markets.

1:15:11 In the beef industry, the Big Four processors control over 85% of the beef processing market.

1:15:19 Two of the Big Four are primarily foreign-owned.

1:15:24 Multiple plant closures across the country, the current market structure, and high concentration in the industry indicate anti-competitive activity.

1:15:36 Since the President's executive order, the Department has been actively investigating with a review of over 3 million documents.

1:15:44 Hundreds of industry participants, including ranchers, cattlemen, producers, and processors, have been contacted and many interviewed as part of this ongoing investigation.

1:15:55 More broadly, the Department has also executed on the President's executive order to stop anti-competitive behavior in the broader food supply market.

1:16:06 Later this week, we will be announcing an historic settlement that will directly affect the prices of proteins like chicken, pork, and turkey.

1:16:16 This business model allows competitors to exchange competitively sensitive information on every aspect of the protein industry and has raised the prices on chicken, raised the prices on pork, and raised the prices on turkey.

1:16:32 So it's good that they're doing that.

1:16:36 It's good they're breaking up this cartel.

1:16:38 And, you know, luckily there's still, you know, Texas Slim,

1:16:42 somehow he got beef.com.

1:16:44 I don't know how he did that.

1:16:45 So he's got beef.com, and you can find your local rancher

1:16:49 and do lots of stuff.

1:16:51 And I like all this, and I like what Blanche is doing,

1:16:54 but then the most un-American thing is, like,

1:16:58 I want our Justice Department.

1:17:00 I want these guys in SWAT teams.

1:17:01 I want them busting into these offices.

1:17:03 I want boxes being carried out.

1:17:06 I want JBS and Cargill and Tyson executives.

1:17:10 I want them in handcuffs.

1:17:11 I want perp walks.

1:17:12 No.

1:17:13 What do we do?

1:17:14 Yeah, we want snitches.

1:17:16 There is more work to do, and we need your help.

1:17:19 I want to remind everyone and anyone in the industry that if you have information about antitrust crimes, about price fixing, bid rigging, market allocation, or even procurement fraud, the Department of Justice wants to hear from you.

1:17:36 through our whistleblower rewards program which is we do in partnership with the united states

1:17:41 postal inspection service what we're gonna the postmaster general's involved in this come on

1:17:49 you can be financially rewarded for coming forward with information about this behavior

1:17:55 just to put a fine point on it if your report if the information you provide helps us secure a

1:18:03 criminal penalty in excess of $1 million, you can be entitled to recover and receive 15 to 30 percent

1:18:12 of that, of the money that we recover. So whether you're a farmer, a purchaser, a processor,

1:18:17 you can help protect food security in America by reporting these types of violations and

1:18:26 potentially criminal conduct. We will use every law enforcement tool available to help reduce

1:18:32 food prices and vigorously enforce the and i trust laws to ensure every aspect of the agricultural

1:18:38 industry competes on a fair playing field if you see something say something i don't know you know

1:18:46 what this tells me snitching what they got nothing they got nothing on these guys this is all hope

1:18:55 this snitching thing is just oh my god we we got we can't prove a thing these guys are on the up

1:19:02 and up from what we can tell because we can't prove anything maybe you know we can get some

1:19:07 snitches maybe and maybe that'll do something because they got nothing they're not going to

1:19:13 get anywhere with this is a dead end this is not going to go anywhere i don't like these guys long

1:19:18 ago people that are involved in price fixing knew how to do it you do it through third parties you

1:19:24 do it by looking what is what the airlines do what is united charging for this flight to chicago

1:19:31 uh what are we going to charge let's charge the same thing i mean you can't this is nonsense

1:19:37 these these four these big four are dominating and they're going to continue to dominate unless

1:19:42 they boil down to two or they become monopolists but with this with four of them they look

1:19:48 competitive they're not yeah but it's like the light bulbs the westinghouse light bulb scandals

1:19:54 in the past for price fixing.

1:19:55 Oh, the light, not just price fixing,

1:19:57 but length of burn fixing.

1:20:01 Yeah, that whole thing.

1:20:03 Wasn't it five?

1:20:03 By the way, LEDs do that now too.

1:20:07 They crap out.

1:20:08 Of course, of course.

1:20:09 Let me, I'm going to tell my LED story.

1:20:12 Well, first explain the Osram scandal.

1:20:15 That's what that was.

1:20:16 It was price fixing amongst the light bulb manufacturers,

1:20:19 not in price per se,

1:20:21 but how many hours the light bulb would last and i believe there's still a light bulb today

1:20:27 that has been burning for over 110 years there's there's plenty of cool light bulbs that burn

1:20:33 forever yeah but the led should burn forever at least a lifetime of anybody that's living so i

1:20:40 you know i bought an led bug bulb for the front porch 25 years ago it was one of the first

1:20:50 leds american made led light bulb they couldn't get much power out of it was nice and yellow

1:20:56 and so i put it up bug bulb a bug bulb bug bulb oh there's a show title

1:21:02 bug bug bulb i like it so the bug bulb it's still burning meanwhile all these chinese lamps i buy

1:21:12 that are led that they burn out in a year there's like they're like filaments they go what happens

1:21:18 they start to blink blink blink they start flashing you can't stop if you turn it on and

1:21:23 off maybe it stops for a while and it starts blinking and flashing because the circuitry in

1:21:28 the in the bulb is no good the junk junk i tell you this every led bulb you buy should last

1:21:35 forever your lifetime good for life it should be good for life and none of them are except my bug

1:21:43 bulb and wait no and you and your bulbs in your in your 2009 lexus there's another interesting

1:21:51 no no it's not it was a 2000 2009 no no no no no no 2009 that's that's a new car

1:21:59 it was a 2003 i think it's it's it's 30 year old car and uh

1:22:08 Yes. How does that work? Every bulb in the Lexus, the interior lamps, the headlights, the taillights, everything. Bulbs never burn out. Where do they get these bulbs?

1:22:27 We're being screwed, Mr. Dvorak. We're being screwed.

1:22:29 The whole thing is a giant scam.

1:22:33 i am so busy right now marking the the recording i got so many great openers from you giant scam

1:22:41 well you want to hear scam all right i'm going to set you up i'm going to set you up with this

1:22:44 here's the setup pennsylvania's hershey company says it's seeing a jump in the sales of mints

1:22:50 and gum and they say it's all due to the rise of glp-1 weight loss drugs the company says the sales

1:22:56 of their ice breakers mints rose eight percent in the first quarter of the year

1:23:00 dental experts have linked the drugs to dry mouth and some have complained of bad breath

1:23:05 over dehydration caused by the medication yes and i want to say that i've noticed this

1:23:10 i've noticed women who are on the on the on the o that they have no yeah ozempic that they have

1:23:19 bad breath this is very noticeable particularly particularly in church yeah particularly in church

1:23:29 i'm not pointing anybody out but i'm just like you know girl you're on the o and your breath is

1:23:37 hawking but that what does it smell like uh death warmed over just nasty you know it's

1:23:43 it has to do i think it has to do with um uh what is it uh what is the word ketones ketones thank

1:23:53 you thank you ketones yeah it has to do with ketones uh rapid weight loss can do that but

1:23:59 it doesn't matter because here is a no agenda show prediction come true in the worst possible way

1:24:07 through our president today i'm thrilled to announce that starting on july 1st we will also

1:24:14 provide medicare patients with the coverage for weight loss drugs like ozepic there it is there

1:24:20 it is we knew it was coming now it's not the bonanza they thought it was gonna be zep pound

1:24:27 We Go V will be available for $50 a month.

1:24:33 $50.

1:24:34 Wow.

1:24:36 $50?

1:24:37 Now think of that, $50 a month.

1:24:40 So if it was $1,300, now it's $50.

1:24:45 And the $1,300 doesn't cover a whole month, so it's really even more than that.

1:24:51 The Fat Vax.

1:24:52 So it's now down to $50, so that's where you get it.

1:24:56 And also, and you remember when I cut insulin.

1:25:00 Oh, yeah.

1:25:01 And that goes into the whole insulin thing.

1:25:02 Blah, blah, blah.

1:25:03 So there it is.

1:25:03 Now, it's not the bonanza they wanted it to be.

1:25:06 And I think you still have to pay for it yourself.

1:25:10 Is Medicare picking up a piece of the cost or how does that work?

1:25:15 It must be.

1:25:16 I mean, I can't imagine that they're like, okay, 50 bucks.

1:25:21 No, no, no.

1:25:21 Medicare is being drained.

1:25:24 Yeah.

1:25:25 You know, it's being eviscerated by these various, you know, overpriced drugs that they're overpriced on purpose and a ridiculous amount of prescriptions that are going out.

1:25:39 Yeah.

1:25:39 That's why it's going to be bankrupt in no time.

1:25:41 I'm going to be one of the last people on Medicare.

1:25:43 I'll never make it.

1:25:45 I don't think so.

1:25:47 They're going out of there.

1:25:49 You can just see it.

1:25:50 Four years to go.

1:25:51 You can sense it when you're in the system, that they're doing everything they can to drain it.

1:25:56 Yeah.

1:25:56 Any life force.

1:25:59 So, RFK Jr. trying, trying to do some stuff.

1:26:06 Trying.

1:26:07 But I think it is hopeless.

1:26:10 Here he is on the SSRIs, which we call the modern MKUltra.

1:26:17 In Washington.

1:26:18 The United States does not just face a mental health crisis, we face a dependency crisis

1:26:23 driven by over-medicalization.

1:26:26 Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced a plan yesterday to rein in what he's called

1:26:31 Americans' overuse of antidepressants.

1:26:34 We will no longer treat them as the default.

1:26:37 We will treat them as one option.

1:26:39 Kennedy has narrowed in specifically on SSRIs, the most widely prescribed class of antidepressants.

1:26:47 That includes household names like Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac.

1:26:50 The user base is huge.

1:26:52 Roughly one in six Americans reported taking an SSRI this year.

1:26:57 One in six?

1:26:58 Kennedy acknowledged that patients can benefit from them,

1:27:01 and he stressed that he wasn't telling anyone to just stop.

1:27:04 But he argued that too many people start taking the meds

1:27:08 without knowing how long they'll stay on them and with no plan to come off.

1:27:12 He has singled out SSRIs before.

1:27:16 He's previously claimed without evidence that they are partly responsible for the rise in school shootings and that they can be harder to quit than heroin, something he repeated yesterday.

1:27:27 For his new effort, Kennedy announced several initiatives like trainings and new guidelines to nudge clinicians to help patients get off medications and consider other treatment options like therapy or exercise.

1:27:41 No major medical organizations were represented at yesterday's event.

1:27:45 Of course not.

1:27:46 Of course not.

1:27:47 But, so this news is slowly, slowly getting through.

1:27:52 And you and I agree that there's probably a lot of people who listen to our podcast who are on SSRIs.

1:27:58 One in six.

1:27:59 So, we say this not to scorn you, but to try and help you.

1:28:04 Because we've been following the SSRI MKUltra for a long time.

1:28:10 And they stop reporting on shooters if they were on SSRIs or not.

1:28:15 You can never get that information.

1:28:17 And you can't get that information because they're advertised on television.

1:28:21 Another thing, RFK Jr. said that he would stop with the swipe of a pen if he was president, I guess, if he was president.

1:28:28 Somebody pointed out that the comments were running he was running for president, even though he should have the exact same goals.

1:28:35 Yes, and this president should be able to do that, and he should.

1:28:40 Here is Ella Emhoff.

1:28:43 Yeah, you know, this is funny because I was looking at this clip and I said,

1:28:47 should I get this clip of Ella?

1:28:49 And I decided against it, but I'm glad you got it because it's an example of people that are stuck on these.

1:28:57 And by the way, shocker, she takes these things.

1:29:01 Yeah, she was crocheting in Brooklyn when she heard the news.

1:29:07 I'm just sitting here crocheting.

1:29:08 And just so people know, Ella Emhoff is Kamala Harris's stepdaughter.

1:29:12 I'm just sitting here crocheting, waiting for a friend.

1:29:15 And I was just listening to this podcast that the Wall Street Journal put out about SSRIs and anti-anxiety meds and kind of the overprescription of them in America.

1:29:26 And it was making me think a lot because I've been on SSRIs for over a decade, almost 15 years probably.

1:29:34 And they were calling out the lack of research on long-term use of these things.

1:29:42 They were calling out the lack of information that doctors give about coming off of these meds and kind of the psychological effects they can have.

1:29:53 And it really got me thinking how little I've thought about that, naively, obviously.

1:30:00 But I've noticed that every time I've gone off of it for a week or missed it or for whatever reason, like it has been really hard for me and I've had a really hard time.

1:30:10 And I guess this is just something I was wondering if you guys have thought about or relate to or kind of consider when you're thinking about going on meds like that.

1:30:21 Meds.

1:30:22 Because I don't know if this is something that I feel like is being talked about enough, because I feel like so many of us are on these meds, and this is, like, actually happening.

1:30:34 Like, people get off of them, and they kind of break down, and it could be really bad.

1:30:39 So, yeah, I guess I just want your general thoughts.

1:30:42 Yeah, my general thoughts are, girl, I pray for you.

1:30:45 And, you know, it's very difficult to quit these meds because you get brain zaps and all kinds of horrible things.

1:30:53 And your No Agenda show is going to go one step further.

1:30:56 We are going to play a clip, which may be shocking to some.

1:30:59 So parents, younger children probably shouldn't hear this.

1:31:03 They may not understand all the words necessarily.

1:31:05 This is a Health and Human Services testimony from a woman named Lauren.

1:31:12 And she is testifying about PSSD, which we've talked about on the show before, which may be responsible for the incredible low birth rate we have because people on these meds don't want to have sex.

1:31:26 And sex, in fact, is not pleasurable for them.

1:31:29 Love is not even capable for them.

1:31:32 So the hallmark symptom of PSSD is genital numbness.

1:31:35 Yes, like complete loss of sensation in your genitals.

1:31:39 for me i clearly hate to talk about this but my clitoris is completely numb as if it's the back

1:31:44 of my elbow i have no sensation internally i'm 23 years old um sufferers also lose the ability

1:31:50 to orgasm permanently like for the rest of their lives and their libido entirely which for me and

1:31:55 what a lot of other people experience is like a sudden onset like chemical asexuality that just

1:32:01 never goes away um and in my opinion i don't think it's sensational to say that this is a form of

1:32:06 chemical castration that it is permanent but beyond that PSSD is not just a loss of sexual

1:32:13 function but a loss for some people of emotional function as well that has been the case for me

1:32:17 before this I was a super emotional empathetic loving caring like Sylvia Plath reading and

1:32:26 resonating girl and the day I woke up with this injury I quite literally felt my soul leave my

1:32:32 body like i'm so serious it was the most unbelievable inorganic thing i've ever experienced

1:32:38 and it's a common symptom of people who have this condition um to this day it's been years for me

1:32:45 i'm 23 now i can't feel love for my own mother which is the hardest thing on earth dude this is

1:32:52 poison this is poison this is very bad you know they're not going to play this on cnn

1:33:00 because that's their bread and butter.

1:33:04 They're bread and butter.

1:33:04 What a terrible situation.

1:33:06 So you sent me two clips.

1:33:08 You sent me a clip of trigonometry.

1:33:14 What is the podcast?

1:33:16 Yeah, the podcast.

1:33:17 Trigonometry and an Adam Carolla podcast.

1:33:21 And they were both about this woman, Helen Andrews,

1:33:23 who wrote an essay, which after you sent me those clips,

1:33:28 I'm like, I've heard about this lady.

1:33:30 I go look it up.

1:33:31 Yeah, the essay's famous.

1:33:32 Yeah, it's a famous essay.

1:33:34 And so I was able to pull three really short clips, all around 40 seconds, from a speech she gave.

1:33:40 And she, in this essay, which is linked in the show notes, she very clearly explains how wokeness and the, really, she calls it the feminization of America, but really the world, is ruining us.

1:33:58 Do you want to add anything to it before I play these quotes?

1:34:01 Well, I thought Corolla's take on it, and I'm not a Corolla fan.

1:34:06 You know, he invented podcasting, you know.

1:34:10 Yeah.

1:34:11 Yeah, that's what I've heard.

1:34:14 I thought his take on it was quite, it was a little nonchalant take

1:34:21 that was mostly reflective of what's going on in Los Angeles.

1:34:25 And, of course, we have this Spencer Pratt guy that's kicking ass with almost a daily new AI ad that's phenomenal.

1:34:34 They got some great models.

1:34:36 They're getting some traction, that's for sure.

1:34:38 Which derives a bit from this one, but he says he's been working on his thoughts for 15 years about this issue, about the feminization issue.

1:34:52 And part of it was, just to summarize, women like to talk, and they're satisfied by talking about fixing something, but it's the men who actually get the work done.

1:35:07 Women do get work done, but they can also just talk, talk, talk, and never get anything done.

1:35:14 Here's the intro.

1:35:16 The libertarian economist Tyler Cowen once wrote a blog post describing all of the revolutions he's seen in the course of his lifetime, starting with the moon landing when he was a little boy and going up chronologically to today's advent of AI.

1:35:32 And there were only seven revolutions on this list because this was only the greatest and most earth-shaking ones.

1:35:41 And right there, between the fall of communism and the invention of the internet, was something called the Great Feminization.

1:35:49 That is not a phrase that a lot of Americans know, but future historians may well rank it as having greater importance than almost any other revolution on that list.

1:36:00 Including communism. So here's a brief description.

1:36:03 I have referred several times so far to feminization without defining what that means.

1:36:09 I'll have a lot to say about it in just a moment,

1:36:11 but if you want to put it in a single sentence,

1:36:13 you could say that feminization equals wokeness.

1:36:17 Everything you think of as wokeness

1:36:20 is simply an epiphenomenon of demographic feminization.

1:36:25 Think about all the things that wokeness means,

1:36:28 valuing empathy over rationality,

1:36:31 safety over risk,

1:36:33 conformity and cohesion over competition and hierarchy,

1:36:38 All of these things are privileging the feminine over the masculine.

1:36:42 And it makes so much sense that the Democrat Party uses this because it activates women.

1:36:50 It really does activate them.

1:36:53 When you have a class that is suppressed, like, oh, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, no, this is horrible.

1:37:03 We have to do something about that.

1:37:05 This is the Karens, the white liberal women of America, certainly.

1:37:11 And it's kind of frightening when you read this essay and you see all the fields that have been now really taken over by women.

1:37:23 Education, psychology.

1:37:28 Medicine.

1:37:31 Medicine, yeah.

1:37:32 Oh, yeah.

1:37:33 How about COVID?

1:37:34 Berks and Walensky and was it Walensky?

1:37:37 Walensky, I think her name was.

1:37:39 Yeah, shut it down.

1:37:40 Shut it down, shut them in.

1:37:42 Everybody stay home.

1:37:43 There was no masculine energy.

1:37:45 Female mayors.

1:37:46 Female mayors.

1:37:48 How about Queen Ursula?

1:37:49 All of this stuff.

1:37:51 And she is also skeptical that this can be turned around,

1:37:57 but she does have one recommendation where we should start

1:38:03 if we want to defeminize.

1:38:05 So that's agenda item number one.

1:38:07 Get rid of all the HR ladies.

1:38:09 Who's with me?

1:38:10 I'm just fired up.

1:38:13 And then we'll see how it shakes out.

1:38:15 If your company has too few women,

1:38:17 that might indicate that you have a problem

1:38:19 with your recruiting pipeline.

1:38:20 On the other hand, it might not.

1:38:21 Either way, we're not going to send a team of lawyers

1:38:24 after you to second guess you.

1:38:25 Yeah, and it's not that women are bad.

1:38:28 It's just when women control certain sectors

1:38:32 or industries or policy.

1:38:36 They don't necessarily have a get-it-done way of doing things.

1:38:41 Climate change is another great example.

1:38:43 You know, how many meetings, how many hundreds of billions of dollars

1:38:48 do we not have in meetings about doing, and they never get there, ever,

1:38:52 because there's nothing, nowhere to get.

1:38:54 Too many meetings.

1:38:54 Yeah, just meetings and meetings and meetings and meetings.

1:38:57 That's because the need for consensus.

1:39:00 Consensus, yeah.

1:39:02 it was really and i think a lot of women will read this and go hmm that's interesting

1:39:06 yeah a lot of them will be irked about it yeah probably your sexism doesn't help my sexism

1:39:14 really now yeah uh see what we need is a president who says stuff like this we provided 100

1:39:24 expensing and bonus appreciation which is tremendous one of the the biggest things that

1:39:31 you have. I mean, people have no idea how big that is. Businesses do. So that businesses can

1:39:36 deduct 100 percent of the cost of new facilities, equipment and capital investment in the first

1:39:42 year. It used to take 38 years of deduction. Now you get it done in one. You can take one

1:39:47 so you can expand. I think that's what made us so successful in the first term. And now we have it

1:39:52 for a 10 year period. So you have it for a while. I really was going to make it for a one year

1:39:57 period that would mean you spend all your money immediately now unfortunately i gave you too much

1:40:01 time i was sort of against that i said let's do it for a shorter period of time but we did it

1:40:06 it's the right thing and this way when i get out of office in let's say eight or nine years from now

1:40:13 i'll be able to use it i'll be able to use it myself yeah baby

1:40:19 that's great let's talk about climate change for a minute oh must wrap all right all right

1:40:30 climate i gotta do some funny clips here but i had there's a very interesting follow-up clip

1:40:36 this climate new orleans needs to prepare new orleans is a vibrant city home of the french

1:40:42 quarter and the birthplace of jazz it's hard to imagine that it all might disappear

1:40:52 yet that's the verdict of a study published this week in the nature sustainability journal

1:40:59 it finds that sea level rise means the city could end up being surrounded by the gulf of mexico by

1:41:05 the end of the century jesse keenan is one of the studies co-authors he's the director of the

1:41:11 Center on Climate Change and Urbanism at Tulane University. And he joins me now. Professor,

1:41:16 good morning. Thank you so much for having me. Is New Orleans doomed? Well, what we see is that

1:41:22 currently atmospheric temperatures are roughly where they were during the last interglacial,

1:41:28 about 125,000 to 150,000 years ago. Now, there's a lag between global temperatures and sea level

1:41:34 rise. But when we begin to add it up, there's a recognition that New Orleans has a matter of

1:41:40 generations to prepare for a transition north to the mainland and away from the coast.

1:41:46 So a transition, is relocation the only option for New Orleans?

1:41:50 Well, we don't really get into the engineering specifics, but it's generally agreed that it

1:41:56 would be nearly impossible to engineer a multi-purpose levee and dike system around

1:42:01 New Orleans. About 80% of New Orleans' land area is underwater or below sea level, I should say.

1:42:07 it's essentially a bowl. You can think about it in those terms. So to be surrounded by open water

1:42:11 and be exposed to increasingly stronger hurricanes, the land itself is sinking and the seas are

1:42:17 rising. So that combination really makes it nearly impossible to be able to engineer a solution to

1:42:24 keep New Orleans afloat. Did you see that Mexico City is sinking by half an inch a year?

1:42:32 Yeah, it's been doing that forever.

1:42:34 Yeah, well, doesn't that eventually, don't they wind up in Australia or something?

1:42:39 It's China.

1:42:40 China.

1:42:41 Yeah, it's been doing that forever.

1:42:44 Well, so has Venice.

1:42:45 Yeah, well, Venice, yeah, Venice is definitely, I mean, that thing's underwater every three weeks.

1:42:53 It's constantly sinking, wow.

1:42:55 Let's go to part two of this and then we can bring an expert in.

1:43:00 Now, it's important to note the study predicts the surrounding of New Orleans

1:43:04 and even the possible submersion of New Orleans sometime in the future.

1:43:08 And you don't know exactly when.

1:43:09 Fish flopping on the streets.

1:43:11 And that will be.

1:43:12 But is anyone actually making plans for this possibility in the future?

1:43:16 Well, I wouldn't say it's so much of a prediction as the geological evidence

1:43:20 and the paleoclimatic evidence points us in the direction that New Orleans will be surrounded by open water

1:43:26 and it is very likely that it will be inundated.

1:43:29 That question, whether we have decades or maybe over a century to go, is in a way open

1:43:35 to science.

1:43:36 But the real question is when and what does it mean to begin to plan a transition of the

1:43:42 population, of businesses, of capital?

1:43:44 And that's the challenge we have ahead of us in terms of public policy.

1:43:47 There is not currently planning by the city or the state to begin this transition.

1:43:52 What we have seen in recent years, which is critical as we highlight in our work, is that

1:43:57 there has been sediment diversion from the Mississippi River that can build land. And by

1:44:01 building land in and around New Orleans, you can buy time. And buying time is the most critical

1:44:07 aspect here. Now, that project was killed by the governor just last year as not being particularly

1:44:12 cost effective, as it was argued. The reality is much of the expense of that project was actually

1:44:17 paid for by BP oil spill money from a number of years ago. So the reality is that every decade

1:44:24 that we can buy to help transition is critical for the success of environmental management,

1:44:30 environmental quality, what we leave behind, but also the humane treatment of people that

1:44:35 are otherwise going to find themselves in a very difficult situation in the decades to come.

1:44:39 I still don't understand exactly what climate change has to do with it. And what is the

1:44:44 solution that they're proposing? Moving the city.

1:44:48 Oh, moving the city, moving the city?

1:44:53 Yes, move it. Get it out of the air. It's going to sink.

1:44:56 So here's this guy. I thought this would be a nice counterbalance.

1:45:03 This guy, Greg Braden, a professor, a logical climatologist, a guy who's not bought off.

1:45:13 Listen to this little piece by this guy on climate change in general.

1:45:22 Another example, I'm going to use climate change.

1:45:25 As a geologist, I'm very passionate about this.

1:45:28 You believe in it?

1:45:29 Climate change is a fact.

1:45:30 I've been talking about it since 1979.

1:45:32 It's also a fact that humans are not causing it.

1:45:36 Humans are not causing it.

1:45:38 And the real scientists know this.

1:45:40 The cow farts.

1:45:40 It's not the cows.

1:45:41 Cow farts.

1:45:43 I'll tell you.

1:45:44 I mean, NASA knows this.

1:45:45 NASA knows that over 90% of the CO2, there is an increase in CO2.

1:45:51 I made a statement, and I just want to justify this.

1:45:54 Is there more CO2 in the atmosphere now than there was 10 years, 20, 50, 100 years ago?

1:46:00 The answer is absolutely yes.

1:46:01 Is it a bad thing?

1:46:02 The answer is no.

1:46:03 Is it the most we've ever had?

1:46:04 We're right about 440 parts per million right now.

1:46:07 In geologic history, we're looking Cretaceous over 1,000, or the Jurassic over 1,000 parts per million, Triassic 2,000 parts per million.

1:46:15 The Earth was lush.

1:46:16 The Earth was green.

1:46:17 Life was abundant during that time.

1:46:20 And what we see in geologic history, and this is fascinating to me, there are times when CO2 levels are high and the temperatures are low.

1:46:26 And times when just the opposite is happening, it's not necessarily a one-to-one correlation.

1:46:32 Where's the CO2 coming from?

1:46:34 NASA knows, I've got a bunch of videos on this, over 90% of the CO2 is coming from the oceans, warming.

1:46:42 Warm water holds less gas.

1:46:44 Here's the kicker.

1:46:46 The oceans are warming from underneath, not from the top.

1:46:50 If it was from the CO2 on the top, you know, the warming of the air, it would be coming from the top.

1:46:56 It's warming.

1:46:57 The glaciers are melting from underneath.

1:46:58 The CO2 is coming.

1:47:00 The oceans are warming from underneath from tectonic processes that happen about every 12,500 years that people just don't want to talk about.

1:47:09 It is a tectonic process.

1:47:12 It begins in the core, translates perturbations into the mantle, into the crust, the weak areas of the crust.

1:47:18 You see more tectonic activity, more volcanic activity, which is exactly what we're seeing.

1:47:23 Give this guy the hook.

1:47:25 He's not, he's saying the wrong things.

1:47:28 That's not right.

1:47:29 Yeah.

1:47:31 So your point being, we still got to move New Orleans.

1:47:37 Yeah, well, move New Orleans.

1:47:40 Move New Orleans.

1:47:41 Probably don't have to.

1:47:43 Here's a question.

1:47:44 Probably don't have to.

1:47:45 Here's a question for you.

1:47:46 Did you ever meet Ted Turner?

1:47:48 I never met Ted Turner.

1:47:51 Will Hurst told me a couple of stories because he's met Ted Turner.

1:47:56 And his only story about Ted Turner is there is a line to the bar and there was somebody standing there.

1:48:07 It looked like they were in the line, but they weren't in the line and the line moved.

1:48:10 And Ted was behind these people.

1:48:12 Hearst witnessed this.

1:48:14 I just thought it was a funny story.

1:48:15 And he says, Turner says to the guys, hey, are you in the line to get drinks?

1:48:20 And the guy said, no, I'm just standing here.

1:48:22 So they get the fuck out of the way.

1:48:24 And he says that was Ted Turner.

1:48:28 That sounds like Ted Turner.

1:48:30 And I will just say, you do not want to be proclaimed dead by me on the podcast.

1:48:36 Because I think I said he was dead just a couple weeks ago.

1:48:40 and so now he's dead thank you very much teen and three eights yesterday

1:48:45 ted turner was never a man to shy away from a challenge on land or sea

1:48:50 whether bringing the america's cup back to the u.s oh yeah saving the american bison

1:48:57 getting the atlanta braves to the world series or changing the way we all consumed news the skies

1:49:06 over baghdad have been illuminated the cover wars now largely because of the way cnn covered the

1:49:12 first gulf war live we intend to cover all the news all the time he was a hard-drinking cigar

1:49:18 smoking adventurer he had kind of a ernest hemingway vibe just with deeper pockets i get

1:49:24 thousands millions and billions mixed up turner had all kinds of nicknames the mouth from the

1:49:30 South and Captain Outrageous. In 2018, though, he disclosed to CBS Sunday Morning's Ted Koppel

1:49:36 that he was fighting Lewy Body Dementia. It's a mild case of what people have as Alzheimer's.

1:49:46 His memory back then hadn't forgotten his three marriages, especially the one to Jane Fonda.

1:49:53 Have you ever quite got over her? No. Do you think you ever will? No. When you love somebody,

1:50:00 and you really love them, you never stop loving them.

1:50:03 He never got over his love of the American West, either,

1:50:06 and his philanthropic efforts will live on in perpetuity.

1:50:09 We don't really own anything, he said.

1:50:12 We just borrow it for a while.

1:50:14 Yeah, he still made 87.

1:50:18 That's pretty good, considering how he lived.

1:50:22 Yeah, you know.

1:50:25 Well, he definitely had some insights into cable.

1:50:30 Oh, man, he was so right about that.

1:50:32 And they laughed at him.

1:50:33 They laughed.

1:50:34 He had WTBS first, right?

1:50:37 Superstation TBS?

1:50:38 I can't remember the whole history,

1:50:41 but the fact is that they laughed at him a lot

1:50:44 and said he didn't know what he was doing

1:50:46 was very, yes, very common in the early days of cable.

1:50:49 Yeah, Superstation WTBS.

1:50:52 That was...

1:50:53 Yeah, TBS, Turner Broadcasting System.

1:50:56 Yeah, so that was a Superstation first,

1:50:58 which meant he syndicated through a whole bunch of television stations

1:51:01 and later via satellite, or maybe the distribution was through satellite.

1:51:05 But the big thing he did is he would take old movies,

1:51:09 cheap or cheaper than first-run stuff,

1:51:14 he'd take old movies and he would play them at 11.05 and 8.05

1:51:22 because he knew that when people had seen the headlines on the news

1:51:27 and were bored, they would be switching around

1:51:29 and then they'd hit the beginning of one of his

1:51:31 movies. And it was genius.

1:51:33 Until podcasting

1:51:37 came along.

1:51:37 Yeah, which

1:51:40 changed everything.

1:51:42 It sure did, baby.

1:51:44 Let's

1:51:46 I got to cut some, one more

1:51:49 Tucker Carlson thing I want to

1:51:51 get out of the way. Oh, man.

1:51:52 I finally watched that whole

1:51:54 Lulu interview with him.

1:51:56 It's kind of nutty.

1:51:58 Well, he's like, there's some things up.

1:52:02 I'm convinced now that either he's got a mental condition.

1:52:06 Meds.

1:52:07 Or there's meds.

1:52:10 Meds, meds.

1:52:11 Now that you mention it, it's possible.

1:52:12 Meds, meds.

1:52:13 And the fact that he forgot, he didn't, well, I don't know what the Antichrist is and all that stuff.

1:52:18 We played those clips last show.

1:52:19 I thought were very revealing about maybe it's a cry for help.

1:52:23 Maybe it's a signal.

1:52:25 Maybe it's code.

1:52:26 I don't know.

1:52:26 But he pulls a similar stunt with Dave Rubin, who got irked about it.

1:52:33 Tucker casually says, I didn't know who Dave Rubin was.

1:52:39 And Dave Rubin played the clip on his show and then blasted Tucker because Tucker even blurbed his book.

1:52:47 And he'd been to his house and on and on.

1:52:52 And this is the Tucker redux Dave Rubin piece.

1:52:55 Dave Rubin, whoever that is, is he conservative? Okay, I guess. Whatever.

1:53:01 You know, it's funny, Tucker. Is he conservative? Well, first off, as I often point out,

1:53:05 I'm actually not a conservative in the strictest capital C sense of conservative. But I do believe

1:53:11 that defending my liberal positions has become a conservative value. Yeah, that's true. That's

1:53:16 true. But also, Tucker, you blurbed my book on classical liberalism. Let me read it for you.

1:53:21 Here, I'll even put, I know you are a big fan of doing this because it makes you look like you're smart.

1:53:25 Dave Rubin is one of the bravest, smartest people I know, as well as a tremendous television presence.

1:53:31 So who changed since then?

1:53:32 Is it me or is it you, buddy?

1:53:34 Is it me or is it you?

1:53:35 It's not me.

1:53:36 Tucker also literally walked into my house because I was one of the first people to have the home studio and gone independent.

1:53:44 And I think his actual quote was, holy effing shit, you did it.

1:53:51 You did it.

1:53:51 The blurb of the book,

1:53:53 when he signed his last book to me,

1:53:54 he said, you're doing it for all the guys

1:53:55 stuck at corporate jobs or something like that.

1:53:57 Again, I tried to broker a peace with him and Ben.

1:54:02 But the reason I'm doing this,

1:54:04 you know, I don't, as you guys know,

1:54:05 I don't like doing the things about people

1:54:07 that I've known or I was friends with

1:54:08 or just when I've been through,

1:54:10 just that I knew Cenk and Hassan and Candice

1:54:13 and all of these people, it's weird.

1:54:14 I think about it a lot.

1:54:15 Like, how did this happen to me?

1:54:17 But this guy, he is a fraud.

1:54:19 Like there were plenty more videos.

1:54:21 We got into it before the show

1:54:22 because there were so many of them

1:54:23 that it's like, how many times

1:54:25 did this guy have to expose himself

1:54:26 and people realize he's making things up?

1:54:29 No, this is, I think this is something else.

1:54:34 This is the video, the video thing.

1:54:37 This is why we're still here.

1:54:39 Hanging on by our fingernails, but we're still here.

1:54:41 Is once you get into video, people need,

1:54:46 it's just, it's like an obsession.

1:54:49 And you have to fight with somebody else on video.

1:54:52 It's a thing.

1:54:55 It's the era we're in right now, and everyone thinks video, video, video,

1:54:59 and we need to be on video.

1:55:00 I've got to be on video, and then I can fight Candace,

1:55:02 and Candace can fight Erica, and Erica can fight Ben Shapiro,

1:55:07 and Ben Shapiro can fight Tucker, and Tucker can fight, you know,

1:55:10 Ben Shapiro can fight Dave Smith, and Dave Smith goes on Joe Rogan,

1:55:14 and it's like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1:55:16 And it's going to implode.

1:55:19 Well, it's definitely boring watching these guys do a rotation.

1:55:24 But I still think there's more to it than that with Tucker, because something's up.

1:55:28 And now we're starting to see some attacks.

1:55:32 Do you think it could be an actual illness?

1:55:34 I don't want to make light of it.

1:55:35 Well, that could be.

1:55:37 It's possible.

1:55:38 But I think whatever the case is, they're going after Tucker.

1:55:41 Listen to this guy, this podcaster.

1:55:44 This is Tucker funding.

1:55:46 They're going after the fact that he's hooked up with the Qataris, but he's not really.

1:55:50 But, yes, he is.

1:55:51 Play this clip.

1:55:53 Did you guys know that when he started the Tucker Carlson Network, do you know who started up the funding of his network?

1:55:59 This is public knowledge.

1:56:01 The guy's name, he runs a company called 1789 Capital, an investment firm that was founded by Omid Malik.

1:56:10 He funded the launch of the Tucker Carlson Network.

1:56:13 He's a Muslim man.

1:56:15 $15 million he gave to Tucker Carlson.

1:56:18 Many other credible sources are saying that since January, Qatar, wealthy Islamic nation, is funding Tucker Carlson.

1:56:29 If you give me $15 million, I might not think Sharia law is that bad either.

1:56:34 Exactly.

1:56:34 Yeah, whatever.

1:56:37 We shouldn't participate in this.

1:56:39 Yeah, we should.

1:56:40 No, no.

1:56:42 I love it.

1:56:43 I know you do.

1:56:44 But you don't have to.

1:56:45 I can get the clips.

1:56:46 And then you'll poach me later when you get a good one.

1:56:49 Well, I mean, someone's got to save the show.

1:56:52 Yeah.

1:56:53 So here's the fight that I am interested in,

1:56:57 which has just not a lot of information about it.

1:57:04 And I guess there's no cameras in the courtroom.

1:57:07 This is Elon Musk versus Sam Altman.

1:57:11 Yeah, it's right here in Oakland.

1:57:13 This is interesting.

1:57:15 I have one clip from CNBC.

1:57:17 All right, developing story, getting some news now in the blockbuster courtroom fight

1:57:20 between Sam Altman and Elon Musk.

1:57:22 Kate Rooney has that for us.

1:57:23 What are we learning?

1:57:24 Hey, Scott, so we're learning a bit from Greg Brockman.

1:57:27 He was the president of OpenAI or is the president of OpenAI now.

1:57:30 He was the co-founder wrapping up his testimony this afternoon over in Oakland.

1:57:34 It's week two of this Elon Musk versus OpenAI tribal trial.

1:57:37 We did get news that OpenAI plans to spend $50 billion in compute, at least for the rest of this year.

1:57:44 That was one big headline.

1:57:45 Brockman, as I mentioned, co-founder of the company.

1:57:47 He answered a lot of questions about his personal financial ambitions.

1:57:51 So he has what he described as a $30 billion stake in this company at this point.

1:57:56 He kept a journal to document professional events in his life, personal events.

1:58:01 That has been a big highlight and a big piece of evidence in this trial.

1:58:05 Musk's personality and leadership style also came up in Brockman's testimony.

1:58:09 Musk has claimed that he is responsible for helping recruit some of the key players at OpenAI

1:58:13 and therefore deserves a lot of credit and has talked about that in his own testimony.

1:58:18 Brockman talked about his reputation of being extremely hard-driving

1:58:21 and that certain candidates were very attracted by that, but others didn't like it as much.

1:58:26 And it actually wasn't as big of a deal in terms of recruiting.

1:58:29 So that just was a big topic of conversation overall.

1:58:32 He did also talk a bit about overall Musk's just leadership style.

1:58:37 We did get a moment that he talked about of Musk tearing a painting of a Tesla off the wall, Scott, but that's the latest.

1:58:44 He's wrapping up that testimony and we are expecting to get Siobhan Zillis, who's a close, close executive of Musk, also the mother of his children.

1:58:52 The backdrop here, of course, Musk's suit opening, Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, alleging that they essentially, as Musk put it, stole a charity.

1:59:01 What do you think is going to come out of that?

1:59:03 I mean, the way they finagled that, turning a nonprofit into a for-profit, it seems sketchy.

1:59:10 I think what's going to come out of it is Musk is going to get his money back.

1:59:13 That would be the easiest way for him.

1:59:16 Yeah, and that would be, it's not that much compared to what they claim they're spending.

1:59:20 But the thing about Musk, I have to say, is you have to judge the results, not the commentary.

1:59:29 I have to assume, and I could be wrong, but I don't see how he could be, but Musk has to be a judge of character in terms of people working for him that is unparalleled.

1:59:46 He has to be the guy who picks people that know what they're doing or do it well.

1:59:52 And I think his influence on the company probably was more than this guy.

1:59:57 Musk sent a few people over, but they were no good or we didn't like him or whatever.

2:00:01 I'm not buying it.

2:00:03 I think that Musk, to run the SpaceX and all these other operations and to do the kind of financial dealings and to sue in a certain way and get billions of dollars left and right, he's got to have a skill set that we can't fully understand.

2:00:23 And it has to do with picking people, which I always thought that you get a guy who knows how to pick an executive to help him run a business smarter than you.

2:00:33 You got certain kinds of skills that might be dependent a little bit is non-trivial.

2:00:39 Yeah, you really want Musk and Trump together.

2:00:43 Musk to hire and Trump to fire.

2:00:45 That would be the good combo.

2:00:47 Yeah.

2:00:48 That would be a good combo.

2:00:50 Yeah.

2:00:51 Yeah, Musk should be the head of personnel.

2:00:54 Well, we're going to see.

2:00:56 I mean, things are going to start moving in this AI world,

2:01:00 and we're already seeing AMD and all these CPU companies.

2:01:04 People are figuring it out.

2:01:07 It's like, oh, we don't need all this compute.

2:01:09 We just needed our computers at home.

2:01:12 I can see this coming.

2:01:14 It's coming.

2:01:17 Well, something's coming.

2:01:18 and it's not going to be pleasant when it blows up.

2:01:22 It'll ruin the show for sure.

2:01:24 And with that, I want to thank you for your courage.

2:01:26 Say in the morning to you,

2:01:27 the man who put the sea in the climate change cow fart.

2:01:29 Say hello to my friend on the other end,

2:01:31 the one, the only, Mr. John C. DeBoer.

2:01:34 Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Cronin,

2:01:37 the minister of sea, boats, and ground,

2:01:38 subs, water, and dames and knights out there.

2:01:41 Oh, hold on.

2:01:42 I was still stuck in that mode.

2:01:44 Hey, in the morning to the trolls in the troll room.

2:01:46 Let me count y'all.

2:01:46 Let me see.

2:01:47 let me do an actual troll count and we see 1453 of the trolls in the troll room listening live

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2:02:06 in the netherlands i've been awake for 20 hours but i'm still here doing the show because that's

2:02:11 what we do then we're going to nashville later this month and it'll be on a sunday and there's

2:02:17 things i could be doing but i'm going to do the show because we care about the show and we think

2:02:22 that it's important that people understand the world that's going on around them from a different

2:02:26 perspective not just yelling into the void because we're on video and that's that's what seems to be

2:02:32 happening the whole podcast industrial complex is now everyone's crazy about video and you know

2:02:39 what they're doing they're doing a horrible disservice to podcasting podcasting should be

2:02:44 audio i mean it's something you should be able to do while gardening you can't watch a video

2:02:48 while gardening so what is happening is all of these not all but most of the big hosting companies

2:02:56 they are um offering video podcast but it's no longer rss based it's done with an api not podcast

2:03:08 exactly it's done with an api and so your video gets published to apple it gets published to

2:03:15 spotify oh by the way we're back on spotify i uh i got someone to uh i got a representative who

2:03:23 emailed me hey is this spotify yeah they said hey is there anything we can do for your show

2:03:29 i said yeah how about you put our show on i've been trying to get it on for for four months

2:03:34 oh hold on let me check

2:03:35 and they check and they come back

2:03:38 oh yeah well we had a

2:03:39 okay so we're on Spotify now

2:03:42 RSS based

2:03:43 but all this video stuff

2:03:45 it's all being done through

2:03:48 I thought we weren't on Spotify because they wanted to run

2:03:50 ads yeah well they don't

2:03:51 they have new terms of service they don't run ads

2:03:54 oh okay yeah

2:03:55 so I said okay we'll go back on then

2:03:57 that's fine if they run ads then we'll take it off

2:03:59 but that was the whole thing

2:04:01 uh so they're breaking the r and in fact it's spotify if you up if you have audio if you have

2:04:09 an audio podcast and then you upload video they then take the audio from your video and your rss

2:04:16 feed is completely broken for audio i think apple may be doing the same thing it's why are they

2:04:25 doing this uh i think the reason they're doing this is they understand that if they just have

2:04:32 an open rss feed that can come into their platforms their podcast platforms it'll be

2:04:40 filled with porn and other things oh other things i would think that's that's a concern

2:04:46 yeah but it's not a podcast now now you can be deplatformed in seconds

2:04:51 by the exact people that I built the podcast index for with Dave Jones

2:04:58 for this very reason.

2:05:00 Because you will get, when the band hammer is there, it gets used.

2:05:04 So anyway, enjoy your video experience.

2:05:07 We're just going to stay audio and we remain value for value.

2:05:11 I should probably mention,

2:05:14 you want to get one of those modern podcast apps to listen to this podcast.

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2:05:30 They are on board with the modern podcasting standards, Podcasting 2.0, which has all these extra features.

2:05:36 These are being slowly adopted by the big boys, but if you want to stay ahead of the curve, then you want to be with us.

2:05:42 In addition to that, one of those features is the live.

2:05:45 We call it LIT, the live item tag.

2:05:49 So when we go live with the podcast, which more and more podcasts are now doing, you get a notification in your podcast app.

2:05:56 And then when we publish it, you're not waiting around for 15 minutes, half hour, an hour, sometimes longer.

2:06:02 No, within 90 seconds, you'll know that your podcast, your best podcast in the universe has been updated.

2:06:07 So value for value, I talked about at the beginning of our podcast, it's very simple system.

2:06:14 We exist by the producers who produce the show.

2:06:17 That is every single one of you who is listening.

2:06:19 We don't consider you listeners.

2:06:20 We don't consider you an audience.

2:06:22 We don't consider you lesser than.

2:06:24 We don't consider you fans.

2:06:26 Oh, man.

2:06:27 How many people, like, how many fans do you have?

2:06:30 We've got zero fans.

2:06:31 In fact, we have more hate listeners than fans.

2:06:34 But they're all producers.

2:06:36 And the way you, fans.

2:06:38 Do you have any fans, John C. DeVore?

2:06:40 Do you have any super fans?

2:06:42 Do you got a fan?

2:06:43 someone's a fan over there no no fans no fans so we decided in week three of our podcast that

2:06:53 we don't want to do that we don't want to be a fan club we don't want to be beholden to advertisers

2:07:00 no at all we don't want to force people into paying things that they maybe can't afford but

2:07:07 from time to time if you're listening and now we're well into two hours if you think you know

2:07:12 I did get some value out of this.

2:07:13 I learned something.

2:07:14 Maybe there was something that triggered you,

2:07:18 but like,

2:07:18 Oh,

2:07:18 I could talk about this with my family,

2:07:21 or I could approach this topic in a certain way,

2:07:23 or maybe I could stay away from certain people who are on meds,

2:07:27 you know,

2:07:28 or maybe you could save somebody who's on meds,

2:07:30 whatever it is.

2:07:31 You might be on meds.

2:07:32 Yeah.

2:07:32 Maybe we're helping to save you.

2:07:34 Maybe.

2:07:35 Maybe.

2:07:36 Maybe.

2:07:37 Yeah.

2:07:37 It's hard to get off these things.

2:07:38 That's the idea.

2:07:39 Try Jesus.

2:07:40 That's,

2:07:41 That's my recommendation.

2:07:42 You know, you can try anything.

2:07:44 Yes.

2:07:44 So just send us some value back.

2:07:48 If you get value from the show, you can do that with time, talent, or treasure.

2:07:52 Many people help us with time and talent.

2:07:54 And one of those ways is through the album art that we always change up for every single episode.

2:08:00 1865, our previous episode, we titled that The Wide Awakes.

2:08:04 And this art came from Jeffrey Rhea.

2:08:08 And it was controversial for us.

2:08:11 And speaking of the meds, this was the SSRIs, the SSRI army coming towards you, looking very, you know, starting happy and then getting less happy, then becoming devilish and then coming at you with knives and with a noose and with a gun.

2:08:24 And, of course, it's AI generated.

2:08:27 The thing that was controversial is we typically will deny art if there is a glaring AI generation error in the art, which this one had.

2:08:39 Yeah, it did.

2:08:40 There was a dude with three arms, but...

2:08:43 Yeah, but in the context of the fact

2:08:45 that it wasn't a dude with three arms,

2:08:47 it was a pill with three arms.

2:08:50 A pill could have any number of arms it wants to have.

2:08:53 And that's how we got around our band.

2:08:56 Did you ever figure out the Greek letters that are around?

2:08:59 No, it's just a bunch of alpha, omega stuff.

2:09:01 I have no idea.

2:09:02 Yeah, well, yeah, it was alpha, omega, epsilon.

2:09:06 Pi is in there.

2:09:07 I didn't quite understand that.

2:09:09 Jeffrey Rhea, thank you very much for bringing us that artwork.

2:09:11 We appreciate that.

2:09:12 Let's take a look and see if there was anything else that we discussed at the time.

2:09:17 I don't think there was anything.

2:09:20 It wasn't there?

2:09:22 We had trouble with finding this piece.

2:09:24 Well, we both thought Francisco Scaramanga's passport with photo rejected was funny.

2:09:32 Yes, it was.

2:09:34 The guy at the back of his head.

2:09:36 You were very enamored by Static Lullaby, Static Lullaby's fake money, fake $33 bill.

2:09:46 You thought it was good for some reason.

2:09:49 No, I thought it was something frameable.

2:09:51 I didn't think it was for the show because we don't do pictures of ourselves.

2:09:55 No.

2:09:55 I thought it was something you should.

2:09:57 I suggested that you get him to send you a copy autographed and hang it on your wall.

2:10:02 That's what I was talking about.

2:10:04 That's what it was.

2:10:04 I messed that up.

2:10:06 and of course comic strip blogger with a butt uh this time it was a cat

2:10:11 yes in fact that was going to be jay was wrapping up the newsletter i wrote the copy but

2:10:18 she puts it together and she was going to choose that piece really

2:10:22 and i caught it before it went through and i changed it because i don't think a puckered

2:10:30 butthole is necessarily something that's that's great well the the the butthole was the cat the

2:10:37 butthole was the claude logo so i kind of understood where comics or blogger was coming from

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2:11:28 with countess knight from edmunds washington who hits us up with 400 and she will become a countess

2:11:36 and that's all she had was vi countess countess no no she becomes a she becomes a vi countess she

2:11:43 is a countess is that how it works by countess bigger than countess yes yeah i think so i think

2:11:49 so yes and that's all that's her entire note so thank you very much countess yeah she started off

2:11:55 as dame knight she made a point i don't i don't want to use my name i want to be dame knight

2:12:01 and so and she would scold us if we read because it would come through paypal

2:12:05 with her name on it so we've memorized and jay everybody okay yeah and so now it's gonna have to

2:12:13 be Viscountess

2:12:14 or Countess. No, it moves to

2:12:17 Countess. I think Viscountess is lower.

2:12:19 Hold on.

2:12:20 Yes, I thought Viscountess

2:12:23 came before Countess. I'm going to look it up.

2:12:24 Yes, please do. We need to get this right.

2:12:27 I need a browser

2:12:29 right here.

2:12:30 Drunk, what's wrong?

2:12:34 What?

2:12:35 Yeah, brown.

2:12:36 I was going to say, what?

2:12:38 I was going to say, what?

2:12:39 Peerage.

2:12:42 Peerage.

2:12:43 What you're hearing right now is the Peerage Committee at work.

2:12:47 This is a rare insight into the—

2:12:50 I'm sorry, it's peerage.htm.

2:12:53 Okay.

2:12:54 Dvorak.org slash peerage.htm.

2:12:58 Yeah, that's what people should—

2:12:59 It may have a blink tag, yes.

2:13:01 People are having trouble with your sign-up link to the newsletter.

2:13:06 I noticed this.

2:13:09 You have to keep hitting it over and over, and then eventually it goes through.

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2:13:15 I'm going to have to create a new one.

2:13:17 Oh, please.

2:13:18 You don't have the password to that server.

2:13:20 You can't create anything there.

2:13:21 Okay, five-time knight becomes a vicountess.

2:13:25 Yeah, she's going to be vicountess now.

2:13:29 Vicountess.

2:13:29 Okay, that's bigger.

2:13:31 She's bigger than countess.

2:13:32 Perfect.

2:13:33 Yeah, yeah.

2:13:34 Love it.

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2:13:35 I don't even see countess on here, to be honest about it.

2:13:38 All right.

2:13:39 Onward with Sir Lawrence in Logan Port, Indiana, 333-88.

2:13:46 And he sent in a note, or she, or he, Larry, Larry.

2:13:54 Yes.

2:13:55 Larry Stewart, Sir Lawrence of Logan's Port, Indiana.

2:14:00 John, it's actually a postcard from Route 66.

2:14:03 John, just what you need, Jesse James hideout.

2:14:09 happy recovery had the same procedure in 2018.

2:14:14 And I'm still here.

2:14:15 Wow.

2:14:16 Larry Stewart.

2:14:17 Okay.

2:14:19 Lawrence.

2:14:19 We're glad you're here.

2:14:20 Glad you're here.

2:14:21 Yeah,

2:14:21 we are.

2:14:22 Yep.

2:14:22 Sir.

2:14:23 Ichabod is in Lake forest park,

2:14:25 Washington,

2:14:25 and he sends us $333 and 34 cents,

2:14:29 which I think is,

2:14:30 is an anomaly because he says,

2:14:34 dear crackpot and buzzkill.

2:14:35 Here's my latest installment of three 33 for the last 100 shows.

2:14:39 So we got an extra extra penny out of it.

2:14:41 I'm usually playing catch up with my podcast.

2:14:44 So I end up listening to the greatest podcast in the universe a week or two after the fact.

2:14:49 With that amount of time to further digest what has happened in the world, I'm always amazed at how spot on your analysis is as things are happening just at the moment.

2:14:59 I figured out how.

2:15:00 For a long time listeners, we might remember that Adam isn't a boomer.

2:15:05 he's from the future and even had a time machine that we could all ride in it's been a long time

2:15:12 adam can you set the time for just returning to now so we don't have to come back but i would

2:15:17 love to go for a ride please i love that nauseating feeling it gives me plus i'm worried about sparky

2:15:24 the dog it's been a long time since i haven't heard him bark did anyone leave him water so he

2:15:30 is requesting the uh the time machine the dimension time machine which we indeed have not

2:15:36 ridden in in quite a while so i dug it out uh it's been in the podcast bag so i have that she

2:15:41 all he also wants a little girl yay he says damn it's good to hear your voice john your humble

2:15:47 servant sir ichabod of the bike path gorbol baron of the solucid empire solucid solucid empire

2:15:56 There we go.

2:15:56 All right, everybody, get ready.

2:15:58 Here we go.

2:15:58 Are you ready?

2:15:59 Stand by.

2:16:00 It's going to hurt just a little bit.

2:16:02 You might get dizzy.

2:16:03 Stay forward.

2:16:04 It's going to be only America first.

2:16:09 Oh, here we go.

2:16:11 America first.

2:16:13 America first.

2:16:14 We choose God.

2:16:19 Fuck you.

2:16:21 They're sparky.

2:16:25 There he is.

2:16:26 Wow!

2:16:26 Woo!

2:16:28 If you're dizzy, just look at the ground.

2:16:30 It'll all go away.

2:16:31 Thank you, Sari Kabad.

2:16:32 That was a fun ride.

2:16:33 Yikes.

2:16:34 Okay, so I have to correct myself.

2:16:37 I did find it.

2:16:39 Countess comes next after Viscount.

2:16:43 Ah, okay.

2:16:44 So she becomes a countess.

2:16:46 From Viscountess to Countess.

2:16:48 Got it.

2:16:48 Makes sense.

2:16:49 So that's a seven times knight.

2:16:53 Seven X.

2:16:55 uh onward with sir greg birch our buddy in port angeles washington the dentite

2:17:01 wishing john good health and offering local assistance if needed

2:17:06 uh well that's nice five six six six my 60th celestial orbit uh

2:17:15 what naps naps now legal you can take naps whenever you want yes yeah uh sir greg

2:17:24 birthday. So he's got a birthday coming up. It's $250. Thanks, Greg. Austin Allen, Roseville,

2:17:29 California, 225. He writes in and says, hello, gents. It's Austin Allen, not to be mistaken

2:17:35 with Cole Thomas Allen and no affiliation with the Wide Awakes. Just your favorite pool dude

2:17:40 representing hell. I mean, California. Making sure your pool feels great and not like the

2:17:45 disgusting high chlorinated public pools and hotel pools. Thank you guys so much for all you do.

2:17:49 I listen to you guys during my pool route and try to hit all my clients in the mouth.

2:17:54 That's part of your responsibility as a producer.

2:17:57 I love letting them know about the No Agenda podcast

2:18:00 and how it helps relieve people from the fear porn of the legacy media.

2:18:03 Your pool guy has about 10 seconds to make a good impression,

2:18:06 and most don't.

2:18:07 Throwback to Linda Lupakin.

2:18:09 For the best pool service in the greater Roseville area,

2:18:12 email austinmdpoolsca at gmail.com.

2:18:18 That's MD for Marley's Dad Pools and CA for California at gmail.com.

2:18:23 Named, so it is mdpoolsca at gmail.com.

2:18:27 Named after his super amazing daughter, Marley, who I love so much.

2:18:31 Stay chlorinated, says Austin the Pool Guy.

2:18:34 And the frogs are gay.

2:18:35 Oh, I didn't get the frogs are gay.

2:18:37 Hold on a second.

2:18:38 You know, whenever we play these jingles, that's immediately when people request the jingles.

2:18:44 It's uncanny that way.

2:18:46 I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin' frogs gay.

2:18:50 There you go.

2:18:51 You got it.

2:18:53 jordan tierney in oral south dakota yeah do 10 60 i found you guys in 2020 after watching a

2:19:04 saddle tramp story where she talked about the podcast in 2020 i was miss rodeo america

2:19:12 and due to the pandemic the pandemic served until the end of 2021

2:19:17 this is jordan is a woman yes the jordan it's a jordan woman thank you so much for keeping me

2:19:26 sane during that time you're welcome you guys helped me during everything and keep everything

2:19:31 in perspective and to see through the bs i did the 50 a month payment uh starting in 2024 and

2:19:39 reached the full amount of damehood in early 2025 i would like to be known as dame or rodeo queen

2:19:46 and at the round table i would like a bottle of cabernet oh i think i did that which uh which

2:19:53 which cabernet do we want for her now let's do what not just any old cabernet we want a good

2:19:59 cab we'll give her a good is this go i have you know just just the top of my head i think a bottle

2:20:06 of uh of 2020 a bv private reserve would do bv private reserve cab okay i have i have ordered it

2:20:18 it will it will i think and then she says i think i did that correctly please edit anything you need

2:20:24 out we did fine no jingles no karma god bless dame rodeo queen now i want to know uh dame rodeo queen

2:20:34 Are you a barrel rider?

2:20:36 That's my favorite rodeo.

2:20:38 Barrel racing.

2:20:39 Is it barrel racing?

2:20:41 Not barrel rider.

2:20:42 Okay, I'm sorry.

2:20:43 Hey, let me get on that barrel.

2:20:45 I'll ride it.

2:20:46 I think you can call her a barrel racer.

2:20:50 She may have been a barrel racer.

2:20:54 Or barrel rider.

2:20:54 My first wife was a barrel racer.

2:20:56 You had a first wife?

2:20:57 What?

2:20:58 Stop the show.

2:20:59 What?

2:21:00 Is she still alive?

2:21:01 Yeah.

2:21:03 Do you ever talk to her?

2:21:04 I don't, maybe, I haven't talked to her for a couple, since COVID.

2:21:08 Was she listening to us during COVID?

2:21:12 I got this since COVID is my go-to now.

2:21:14 I haven't done this since COVID.

2:21:16 I haven't traveled since COVID.

2:21:17 I haven't talked to my first wife since COVID.

2:21:20 I haven't changed my underwear since COVID.

2:21:23 That's right.

2:21:24 Well, can I ask what her name was?

2:21:27 Her first name only?

2:21:28 Yeah, Vicky.

2:21:29 Vicky.

2:21:29 Hmm.

2:21:30 The more you know.

2:21:33 She could jump on a horse bareback and take off like a rocket.

2:21:36 Oh, man.

2:21:38 You never cease to amaze me, John C. Dworak.

2:21:41 Nor does Eli the Coffee Guy, who is in Bensonville, Illinois.

2:21:46 He comes in with $2.057.

2:21:48 That is, of course, a $200 associate executive producer donation along with the date.

2:21:54 And he says, living in Chicagoland suburbs, I've noticed the flag at the local schools and library has been at half-staffed more often than full-masked in recent years.

2:22:03 It started around COVID, and there it is, since COVID, and just kept going.

2:22:07 It used to be the half-staff meant something serious had happened.

2:22:10 9-11, real tragedies.

2:22:12 Now it feels like it's done to demoralize us.

2:22:15 Hard to feel like the country is standing tall when old glory ain't.

2:22:20 Thanks, Pritzker.

2:22:21 Nothing helps pick up the morale like a good cup of coffee, though.

2:22:25 Please visit gigalockcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order.

2:22:31 And as always, stay caffeinated, says Eli, the coffee guy.

2:22:35 Bob Dietrich in good old Flower Mound, Texas, $200.

2:22:40 From 1864 Pointcast.

2:22:45 Just Baker.

2:22:47 Just, yeah.

2:22:48 Just Baker.

2:22:49 He did the mix.

2:22:51 Just Baker.

2:22:52 The mind-blowing maker.

2:22:54 Just Baker, the mind-blowing maker.

2:22:57 The little rhyme there.

2:22:59 The end of the show mix from last Thursday's podcast was incredible.

2:23:03 With the distorted organ intro to the next-gen rap, I was blown away.

2:23:09 Boom!

2:23:10 After 20 replays in the car, I decided the automobile speakers weren't cutting it.

2:23:17 Some more of these, please.

2:23:19 I don't know if it's an original or sparked from another artist, but bravo.

2:23:24 No, it's all Suno.

2:23:27 Just Baker's new on the scene.

2:23:30 He competes.

2:23:30 He competes.

2:23:31 And also, if you want to talk about competing,

2:23:35 then you want to know about Linda Lupatkin from Castle Rock, Colorado.

2:23:39 She supports us almost, I think, every single show with $200,

2:23:41 and she just wants jobs karma.

2:23:43 And she says, rightly so,

2:23:45 your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression,

2:23:48 and most don't.

2:23:49 For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com.

2:23:53 Linda helps professionals and executives

2:23:55 turn their experience into a clear story of leadership, results, and impact.

2:24:01 That's Image Makers, Inc. with a K, and Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.

2:24:06 And she wants some jobs, Karma.

2:24:08 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

2:24:11 Let's vote for jobs.

2:24:13 You've got karma.

2:24:15 So I got an email from a recruiter.

2:24:19 This must be a scam.

2:24:20 Do you ever get emails from recruiters?

2:24:24 If you get it, you know it's a scam.

2:24:25 But do you have an email from a recruiter?

2:24:27 No, I don't think so.

2:24:29 He got this from, you know, he has a LinkedIn, but he's got a Gmail, he's got a Gmail address.

2:24:35 And he's like, hey, you know, you with your decentralization and with your podcasting 2.0 experience, I think I have the perfect opportunity for you in a leadership role.

2:24:46 I'm like, okay, I'll bite.

2:24:47 And then, you know, I said, well, if you're more interested, then I will, then I will, I'll send you more information.

2:24:53 And then, you know, he sends me like, I say, okay, what is this, a job?

2:24:57 Is this a consulting gig?

2:24:59 Is this, what is it?

2:25:00 Oh, no, it's leadership at Adobe.

2:25:02 I'm like, what?

2:25:04 That makes no sense.

2:25:06 What?

2:25:08 Yeah, exactly.

2:25:09 What, they're going to give you a job at Adobe?

2:25:11 Well, he's a recruiter.

2:25:12 I don't think.

2:25:13 He wants you to work at Adobe?

2:25:15 It must be a scam.

2:25:16 The next thing he sends me.

2:25:17 No, it's got to be.

2:25:18 Yeah, the next thing he sends me has got to be,

2:25:20 Well, if you take this test and give us $50, then we can get you in.

2:25:25 Continuing with our supporters, $50 and above.

2:25:30 Christopher Myers is in Dallas, Texas, and he sends us $185 and says,

2:25:34 Donate better.

2:25:35 Yes, definitely low donations.

2:25:38 We would like to see more value coming back to us for the value we put in.

2:25:42 Maybe for Mother's Day.

2:25:43 You know, Mother's Day is next Sunday.

2:25:46 That's the next show.

2:25:47 Yeah, that's true.

2:25:48 and maybe people would for a change no it's only we notice this by the way they don't people who

2:25:54 people hate their moms except during the covid year that's right that's when it was stellar

2:25:59 and after that it's like that's just yeah we we totally kicked ass during the covid year

2:26:06 for the moms yes and now well you know whatever

2:26:11 yeah whatever exactly uh mansour rod in alpharetta georgia i hope i pronounced that right

2:26:24 uh one two three four five we see what you do there what you did there thank you very much

2:26:28 we appreciate that uh then we have jim carlson from denver colorado he sends us a hundred dollars

2:26:34 But he also had a note, which I'm going to bring up here, and I liked it because it was here.

2:26:43 John and Adam, a short note, greatest podcast ever.

2:26:47 I enjoy your podcast.

2:26:48 John, keep getting better.

2:26:50 I am turning 80 on, is this 12th of May?

2:26:55 12th of May, I think, or 17.

2:26:58 I think 12th of May, 26.

2:26:59 and i do not want to bs to be any younger cat man's what

2:27:08 why are you laughing why are you reffing it's silly cat man something jim carlson man do no

2:27:18 cat man do anyway 80 years old and he still listens to the best podcast in the universe

2:27:23 without wearing his hearing aids i wonder how many people we have who are octogenarians that

2:27:27 listen to this show well they better donate quick i think you guys yeah you're right you know

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2:27:56 knighthood in before i'm gone i told him he's got a bad attitude very bad attitude don't look at

2:28:02 that rock when you're driving your motorcycle exactly that's what i told him the old rock thing

2:28:06 yes rianne kosinski carsland alberta that's in candenavia 8374 and also wants to add

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2:28:19 and a switcheroo donation and do de-douching for his birthday you've been de-douched uh he hit

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2:28:58 um yeah you pronounce it prague and he wants an f karma which i'll hit him with right away

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2:30:58 then things do tend to go away and you know i don't know if we can do four more years at this

2:31:04 point you know i may have to get that gig at adobe yeah i think you should go to work for adobe

2:31:11 you'd fit right in i would not fit in at all that's a horrible idea i don't want to work at

2:31:18 adobe the other one was uh what's that ai company he had two for me snowflake like i'm not going to

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2:32:53 Oh, we have title changes.

2:32:56 Boy, it's been a while since we had one of those.

2:32:58 No douchebags for our Viscountess, who today becomes a Countess.

2:33:13 That would be the Viscountess Knight.

2:33:14 We always remember her name as Viscountess Knight.

2:33:16 But now she'll be known as Countess Knight.

2:33:19 Thanks to an additional $1,000 support to the best podcast in the universe.

2:33:23 And we thank you very much.

2:33:24 We have a dame and we have a knight to bring up today, John.

2:33:28 So if you can, there's my sword.

2:33:30 If you can grab yours.

2:33:31 Here you go.

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2:33:32 Yeah, you're getting stronger.

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2:33:53 Wow, that sounds nasty.

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2:35:00 That was not the one you were bitching about earlier.

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2:35:29 Go to NoAgendaMeetups.com to find out where you can meet other people who listen to the show.

2:35:35 And they happen all around the world.

2:35:36 And sometimes they even send us meetup reports, like this one from the Three Mile Island meetup.

2:35:41 This is Chris at the TMI EVEX Zone Spring Meetup, where we hit a whole music festival in the mouth.

2:35:48 The lead singer said that Adam Curry is the Gibbs-looking guy.

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2:36:11 yeah yeah we've had better reports i don't know what that recording was about it was bad but we

2:36:18 appreciate it no matter what hey there's a meetup taking place tomorrow a couple of them actually

2:36:23 we have the may 8th happy hour buda meetup ah that would have been right down the road from me

2:36:28 but i'm not there at the time so that'll be at astra in buda texas yes it is pronounced buda

2:36:35 the national dutch amygdala checkup now this will be in locale 1650 in leiden in the netherlands

2:36:43 uh that'll be at eight o'clock uh dutch time unfortunately i won't be able to attend i'm

2:36:48 going out to dinner with my daughter sorry uh saturday make your daughter do the meetup she'd

2:36:53 love to meet people she's seven months pregnant she doesn't really want to go anywhere at the

2:36:58 moment the treasure valley boise meetup three o'clock at the old state saloon in eagle idaho

2:37:04 make sure you catch that one also they can all rub her tummy also on saturday the sonoma wino

2:37:10 country meetup that'll be at 3 33 p.m in santa rosa california and that'll be at field work and

2:37:16 mom's the word in nashville six o'clock at tenfold in nashville tennessee that is also on saturday

2:37:22 make sure you go to these meetups if you can in the month of may we still have unionville ontario

2:37:28 on the 13th, Raleigh, North Carolina on the 14th, Colleyville, I got it right this time,

2:37:33 on the 16th, along with Fort Wayne, Indiana, Los Banos, California, the 21st, Charlotte,

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2:37:43 and Franklin, Tennessee, dueling Tennessee meetups on the same day, and on the 24th,

2:37:48 Vancouver, British Columbia, and Squim, Washington, where Mimi will be the TooManyEggs.com book

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2:38:03 lot there's a lot more taking place uh which you can find in no agenda meetups.com you head over

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2:38:21 the meetups.com always fun always easy and always a party sometimes you wanna go hang out with all

2:38:28 the nights and days you wanna be where you won't be triggered or held to blame you wanna be where

2:38:38 everybody feels the same it's like a party yeah baby we have uh end of show mixes coming up which

2:38:47 i think you will enjoy we also have john's tip of the day but first we're going to choose the

2:38:51 end of show isos i see you i have two uh i'll go i have four so let me hit you with mine okay you

2:38:58 ready hit it i agree with you there's one oh my goodness goody goody gun drops you're gonna love

2:39:07 him i love he's still on the air that's it we're done and the final one this is incredible

2:39:16 I kind of like that one.

2:39:17 I like the Incredible one.

2:39:18 That's better than the other one.

2:39:20 Yeah.

2:39:21 It was future tense for the Alex Jones one.

2:39:25 Get closer to the mic, man.

2:39:27 You're cutting out.

2:39:28 Get closer to the mic.

2:39:28 Yes.

2:39:30 Let's start with Fabulous.

2:39:34 It's over.

2:39:36 Fabulous show.

2:39:37 Donate now.

2:39:38 Not at all, AI.

2:39:42 Okay.

2:39:43 What?

2:39:44 it needs more energy i wanted it to be soft and demanding

2:39:50 no agenda this was no agenda except no substitutes okay that's uh taken from uh what was it uh what

2:40:00 was the what was the tv show that had that except i don't know yeah that was it we'll do that one i

2:40:08 like that except no substitutes that's true and there is no substitute for john c devorex tip of

2:40:13 the day.

2:40:14 Great advice for you and me.

2:40:18 Just the tip with

2:40:19 JCB.

2:40:21 And sometimes Adam.

2:40:23 Okay.

2:40:25 Of course.

2:40:27 Okay.

2:40:28 I haven't changed anything.

2:40:31 Uh-huh.

2:40:32 So everyone's

2:40:35 moaning and groaning about the last tip.

2:40:37 So I'm

2:40:40 going back to the well and

2:40:41 going back to the wine tips, which

2:40:43 everybody seems to love we love our wine tips 19 19 2023 kirkland signature chablis oh another

2:40:54 kirkland yeah there was costco you know people can go to costco it's cheap uh i lost track of

2:41:01 the price unfortunately oh couldn't it be more expensive nine dollars they don't charge much

2:41:07 more than that for their wines do they not for these kirkland ones no it's just a plain chablis

2:41:12 Now, here's the thing.

2:41:13 This one in particular, let me get this label I got here.

2:41:17 Pierre Brissy, winemaker on the back of the label.

2:41:22 It says Pierre Brissy.

2:41:24 Okay, so Pierre did the wine.

2:41:26 So Chablis is an area of the northernmost part of Burgundy.

2:41:31 And they're known for making, and the grape used in Chablis is always Chardonnay.

2:41:38 and so it's a chardonnay which is you know the abc folks may or may not like but it doesn't

2:41:44 taste like a like a california chardonnay so that people shouldn't complain about it too much

2:41:49 and it says chablis it doesn't say chardonnay so i guess that would would be would benefit people

2:41:54 who hate chardonnay but it's it's not the tip the typical chablis in the normal low carbon dioxide

2:42:03 years of the of your uh with the climate change not being what it was tends to be

2:42:10 steely they describe it as steely flinty hold on a sharp hold on a second are you telling me that

2:42:17 climate change i.e more parts per million of our co2 makes the wine better oh yeah the germans

2:42:27 tell you this right to you call go to go to the rhine and and ask around and tell you and let

2:42:33 them tell you what they think well yeah this is an argument that has never been used i think we

2:42:38 should i think we've mentioned it once before on the show i can't recall but i i like it it's a

2:42:43 big deal yes more so some of these areas that make this this sketchy you know sometimes good

2:42:49 sometimes bad wines burgundy is a good example they're basically every vintage is good and so

2:42:56 So this Chablis is not like the flinty, harsh, you know, acidic Chablis that people expect.

2:43:05 It's a very soft, gorgeous wine.

2:43:08 And I would say I would check it out, especially all the people that hate, you know, the California shards.

2:43:15 Shards, I'm using this slang.

2:43:18 Shard.

2:43:19 I sharded, man.

2:43:21 That's right.

2:43:21 Hey, there it is.

2:43:22 There's a dynamite tip of the day from John C. DeBoer.

2:43:24 All right, get them all at noagendafun.com, tipoftheday.net.

2:43:27 Great advice for you and me.

2:43:30 Just the tip with JCB.

2:43:33 And sometimes Adam.

2:43:36 Created by Dana Burnetti.

2:43:38 Let's see how we do.

2:43:40 Ah, right on schedule.

2:43:43 Perfect.

2:43:44 Hey, y'all.

2:43:46 Remember us at noagendadonations.com if you would, please.

2:43:49 I'll be here Sunday night.

2:43:51 Once again, John will be here Sunday afternoon.

2:43:54 I'm bringing you the best podcast in the universe, breaking down all the media, the deconstruction that you need to function.

2:44:01 I think that's kind of a rhyme.

2:44:03 If you stick around, up next we have Random Thoughts.

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2:44:20 End of show makes this from Just Baker, Chris Mattson.

2:44:24 I got two that I'm moving to Sunday from MVP, and we have that No Agenda Donation song,

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2:44:30 That'll be the second one in the lineup.

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2:44:49 All that's open right now is the Burger King, unfortunately.

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2:49:01 MSM says lose weight and obey

2:49:05 If your pain is inflamed

2:49:07 Well, that's okay

2:49:11 When the ladies get together

2:49:16 Big pharma is forever

2:49:20 They're all on these SSRIs.

2:49:23 These people are, in effect, modern MKUltra.

2:49:26 Well, this is a new thesis. I like it.

2:49:29 Get a nose ring and some blue hair

2:49:32 Wave your sign up in the air

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2:49:41 SSRIs and Chardonnay

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