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0:00 She's a Chinese spy.

0:01 Adam Curry, John C. DeVore.

0:04 It's Sunday, May 24th, 2026.

0:06 This is your award-winning Get More Nation media assassination episode 1871.

0:10 This is No Agenda.

0:12 Doing the Bundy Buggy-o.

0:16 And broadcasting live from the live music capital of the world, Nashville, Tennessee.

0:21 In the morning, everybody.

0:22 I'm Adam Curry.

0:23 And from northern Silicon Valley.

0:26 Oh, I'm sorry.

0:26 I'm sorry.

0:27 It's the refinery row.

0:28 So we wish everybody a happy Memorial Dam Johnson, Borak.

0:32 It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill in the morning.

0:35 You know, by the time you...

0:38 Smooth as silk.

0:38 Smooth.

0:39 Nailed it.

0:40 By the time you get home, you'll be saying, refine your row.

0:44 I don't know where I am.

0:45 You won't know anything.

0:47 Oh, man.

0:48 I don't know anything now.

0:50 Here I am in the biodome in Nashville, Tennessee.

0:53 What's a biodome?

0:55 Better known as the Gaylord Opryland Hotel.

0:59 Oh.

1:00 Why is it called a biodome?

1:02 Because you're entirely enclosed in a dome.

1:05 Oh, I've been to that place once.

1:07 Yeah, you're right.

1:07 You know what I'm talking about.

1:09 Yeah.

1:09 And so it could be raining, it could be sunny.

1:12 You don't know.

1:13 It's a constant, like, 70 degrees, 72 degrees.

1:16 And everywhere you go, you're just inside the biodome.

1:19 Yeah, it's big.

1:22 It's troubling.

1:25 Once you realize, I've been in this biodome for three days.

1:28 It's a bit much.

1:30 So, yeah, since you asked, we are here for the K-Love Music Awards.

1:39 The big K-Love Music Awards.

1:41 That's right.

1:42 K-Love is, they own pretty much every single contemporary Christian music radio station in the country.

1:49 Although I don't know if that's going to benefit them long term, but they do have streams.

1:54 And so every top name in the Nashville music business is here performing live, doing worship services.

2:00 Performing live!

2:01 Doing worship services.

2:03 We had a great service this morning with Bethel Worship.

2:08 No, I mean, it's music.

2:10 Like, you got 2,000, 3,000 people.

2:12 We're all worshiping.

2:13 And the great pastor from, what's his name?

2:16 His name is Levi Lusko.

2:19 He's from Montana, but originally from California.

2:23 Did a great message.

2:24 And so we're just getting our buckets filled here.

2:26 What was his message?

2:27 His message was what to do when you're spiraling.

2:31 And it was good.

2:33 It would have worked.

2:34 Are you spiraling?

2:34 No, but I have.

2:37 I mean, I have.

2:38 I mean, we've all spiraled at some point.

2:40 You've never spiraled?

2:41 I don't know what it means.

2:42 Where you just feel bad, you're down, you're depressed, you're not doing well.

2:46 I feel bad all the time.

2:47 John's in a constant spiral.

2:51 Exactly.

2:53 Exactly. Now, before we get started, I don't think this has ever happened to me on an airplane before.

2:59 I've been recognized for, you know, all kinds of different things.

3:03 You were called out at the beginning and they sang a song to you, Happy Birthday.

3:07 No, they didn't. So I'm kind of, I'm like half asleep.

3:11 I got the hearing aids in so you couldn't tell that I was listening to anything.

3:16 And I'm listening to Tucker Carlson go on and on and on about the Jews and Israel.

3:22 And so I'm kind of, you know, like drifting off and I feel a hand on my arm and I hear, hold on a second.

3:29 Let me turn off my, my phone here.

3:30 ITM.

3:32 And it was Audra, our flight attendant on our Delta flight to Nashville.

3:36 And I don't think I've ever, ever had a flight attendant come up to me and throw an in the morning at me.

3:42 Nice.

3:43 Yeah.

3:43 And she's like, I've been listening for six years.

3:47 I love, I love what you guys are doing.

3:49 You've been so great.

3:51 You've been so helpful.

3:52 And then her colleague, Carla, was like, man, I got to listen to your podcast because Audra's, like, jumping up and down.

3:59 She can't believe it that she's met you guys.

4:01 So it was really nice.

4:04 You got an extra listener.

4:05 That's what counts.

4:06 And we got extra peanuts.

4:08 Yeah.

4:08 One at a time.

4:09 Oh, and you got free.

4:10 Probably could have gotten those anyway.

4:13 Yeah.

4:14 So I wanted to say hi.

4:15 So you were talking about some issues you had with the gear.

4:18 Oh, man.

4:19 I had a drive fail.

4:21 a an ssd state yeah solid state although it was like half failing and then it kind of came back

4:29 up but that's that screws up a lot of things when that happens so then you got to plug in the other

4:34 drive you got to remap everything you know i got i got the road gear although it's been i mean this

4:39 it's linux remember it's linux it's it's amazing any of this stuff works but here it is functioning

4:46 knock on wood holy spirit take us through the whole day we'll be good so yeah and uh

4:53 it's good to be uh good to be uh on the air with you as it were now well well the first thing i'd

5:03 like to say is apparently uh the vice president had to turn around and come right back to dc

5:11 president trump didn't go to to his son's wedding in the bahamas even though he was already married

5:19 but the wedding ceremony because it sounds like we have a deal we've got a deal yeah yeah another

5:24 deal and i saw you had clips so i'm trusting that you've got clips about the deal i got the deal i

5:29 got the deal analyzed some the deal that's so-called the deal that that's in trump i believe

5:36 is in trump's mind well first of all we kind of expected a deal to be here around june 1st because

5:44 we need to have this all cleared up by the big 250th celebration on july 4th we we can't have

5:51 a war when we're doing the big celebration no so so we knew it was going to happen but you think

5:56 the deal is not a deal i don't think it's a deal yet okay uh and they're kind of wishy-washy about

6:04 it and but you know it might be getting close but you know this is supposed to have taken place

6:09 what he said this whole thing's gonna go six weeks at the grid 11 weeks now something like that

6:13 and so you know hold on hold on hold on it was only six weeks of actual fighting all the rest

6:20 has just been ceasefire oh yeah that's right what am i thinking so get it right man so um let's play

6:28 the i have four clips and there's three of them are analysis clips and one of them is a basic

6:32 the basic bbc clip which i thought would be the place to go uh iran around trump bs deal

6:39 oh i called it a bs deal oh there you go bbc president trump has said an agreement with iran

6:46 to end the war has largely been negotiated he made the announcement on social media peter bowes

6:52 reports mr mr mr trump posting on his true social platform has said yeah stop it yeah the first guy

6:59 said president trump but this other guy comes in and he calls him mr trump which is a which is a

7:05 note of disrespect well everyone's doing it now it's president trump yeah they'll never they can't

7:13 get that out of their mouth well the first guy did well for a second there it's editorializing

7:20 i'm sure the script says mr trump anyway we continue largely negotiated after what he

7:27 described as a very good call with the leaders of several Gulf states. Very good call. And that it

7:32 was now subject to finalization between the U.S. and Iran. He added that in addition to other

7:37 elements of the agreement, the Strait of Hormuz would be reopened. But he warned that if a deal

7:43 could not be reached, no country would ever be hit as hard as they're about to be. Contradicting

7:48 Donald Trump's statements, the Iranian news agency Fars, which is close to the Revolutionary Guard

7:53 Corps says the Strait of Hormuz would remain under Iranian control.

7:57 Well, this is the BBC. The BBC is going to run their line of talk. Of course, they've been

8:06 funding the whole operation for the Muslim Brotherhood and the Lloyds of London and the

8:12 City of London. Of course, they don't want any deal. They're just talking the talk.

8:16 I'm sure they don't want any deal. But here we go with analysis. Clip one.

8:21 We start with President Trump's claim on social media that the U.S. is close to reaching a peace deal with Iran after weeks in which their shaky ceasefire has hung in the balance.

8:33 Just days ago, he was threatening to attack Iran again.

8:36 In his post, Mr. Trump said the deal had been largely negotiated, was being finalized and would be announced shortly.

8:44 He also said the Strait of Hormuz would soon be reopened.

8:48 This comes after Pakistan's army chief went to Tehran to hold talks with Iranian officials

8:53 and after Mr. Trump then held a call with Arab allies in which Pakistan as the key mediator also took part

9:01 and he held a separate call with the Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu.

9:06 The U.S. president said both calls had gone very well.

9:10 Earlier, his secretary of state, Marco Rubio, who's visiting India,

9:13 also struck an optimistic note when talking to journalists.

9:18 There's been some progress done, some progress made.

9:21 Even as I speak to you now, there's some work being done.

9:23 There is a chance that whether it's later today, tomorrow, in a couple of days, we may have something to say.

9:28 But this issue needs to be solved, as the president has said, one way or the other.

9:31 Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.

9:32 The straits need to be open without tolls.

9:35 They need to turn over their enriched uranium.

9:37 They need to turn over their highly enriched uranium.

9:39 We need to address that.

9:41 Oh, you catch that?

9:43 Yeah, he corrected himself from enriched uranium to highly enriched uranium.

9:48 Yeah, that means something.

9:49 That's a deal point there.

9:51 Hey, give us your highly enriched, whatever that is, and you can keep your enriched.

9:55 It's the 60% stuff.

9:57 The president said one way or the other, Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.

10:00 The straits need to be open without tolls.

10:03 They need to turn over their enriched uranium.

10:05 They need to turn over their highly enriched uranium.

10:07 We need to address that issue.

10:09 We need to address the issue of enrichment.

10:10 these are the president's points consistently and his preference is always to deal with it in a

10:15 diplomatic way our north america correspondent peter bows gave us his assessment here's how that

10:21 works hey sign the deal or i'll blow you to smithereens of whether this means an end to the

10:28 war is great well with the caveat that we've heard positive statements before from the president

10:35 about a potential deal with Iran.

10:37 This does look as if there is perhaps

10:40 some sort of breakthrough in the making,

10:43 although the mood music from Iran is somewhat different.

10:46 All right, so far, zero analysis,

10:49 just calling our president Mr. Trump.

10:52 They've given nothing so far.

10:54 Yeah, and that's what you're going to end up with.

10:57 Yeah, a statement from Rubio.

10:58 Because there's nothing to analyze, let's face it.

11:00 Essentially, Trump is saying what he feels like saying.

11:03 And there's no evidence that anything's going on whatsoever.

11:07 The blockade's still going on, and he keeps, and he's saber rattling to an extreme.

11:13 Who is blocking?

11:14 As far as I'm concerned, we're blocking.

11:16 We're blocking.

11:17 Yeah, we're blocking.

11:17 We're blocking, yeah.

11:18 Who's blocking?

11:19 We're blocking.

11:20 They're not blocking.

11:21 We're blocking.

11:21 We're blocking.

11:22 So we're blocking all the ships, and they're shooting at any, they sneak by.

11:29 Yeah.

11:29 And I feel bad for the people that are ship, you know, the sailors that are on these vessels.

11:36 They can't eat.

11:36 I mean, there's no food.

11:37 No, they're getting them out.

11:39 Yes, we're getting the worst reporting in the world.

11:42 A couple of guys are sneaking out at night.

11:44 No, we're still escorting ships.

11:47 Yes, we have no reporting.

11:50 Nowhere.

11:51 Who's boots on the ground there?

11:53 Nobody.

11:55 We need some more boots on the ground from our side.

11:57 Okay, here we go.

11:58 Part two.

11:58 Saying that as far as they're concerned, the gaps remain, as far as the latest talks are concerned, that the issue of a nuclear weapon, also the Strait of Hormuz, hasn't been part of the current round of talks.

12:12 And in fact, just in the last few minutes, Iran is saying that the Strait of Hormuz will remain under its.

12:18 Now, when they say Iran is saying, is there a mouth on the country that is opening up and going, here's what we're saying? Is it is it on Twitter? Is it on X? Is it the IRGC? Who is Iran at this point? Who is talking?

12:35 Am I six?

12:37 management. Nevertheless, we had this quite long, lengthy statement, true social statement

12:42 from the president within the last hour. And this, in part, is what he has to say. He says

12:47 an agreement has been largely negotiated, subject to finalization between the United States of

12:53 America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and other countries. And he goes on. Separately,

12:59 I had a call with Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu of Israel, which likewise went very well. And

13:06 then he says final aspects and details of the deal are currently being discussed and will be

13:11 announced shortly so i think significantly there we have no mention of nuclear weapons which is

13:18 still at the heart of this issue as far as president trump is you notice that of course

13:24 there's no mention of nuclear weapons because they never had a nuclear weapon all we're hearing

13:29 about is the dust the dust that's the enriched uranium that's they don't have a nuclear weapon

13:35 They have enriched or highly enriched uranium.

13:39 So now the BBC, after just hearing that from Rubio,

13:43 are saying, oh, we haven't heard anything about a nuclear weapon.

13:47 He says that the Strait of Hormuz will be open,

13:51 but as we're already hearing, that is being disputed by Iran.

13:55 So perhaps just tentatively, very tentatively,

13:59 we might be moving towards some sort of breakthrough,

14:02 But this certainly isn't a deal to end the war right now.

14:06 Okay. All right. Some sort of breakthrough, but it's not a deal.

14:10 But we don't know anything. We're the BBC.

14:11 There's a couple of things that are interesting in this.

14:15 It's that Pakistan seems to be playing the real role here.

14:19 Yes, yes, I agree.

14:20 And Pakistan also has been a safe haven for much of the Iranian Air Force.

14:29 It turns out that they, yeah, they said they opened their bases up to Iran during the initial bombing, saying if you're worried about your jets getting blowed up because they're pretty, park them here.

14:42 Park them here.

14:43 Yeah, it's all good.

14:44 And so they have a lot of Iran's gear in Pakistan.

14:48 And so Pakistan has some leverage in that regard.

14:51 Well, yeah, they're also the front men for China, which is the country that really needs this.

14:58 But the sticking point here seems still to be the basic thesis of the Sunnis versus the Shia.

15:07 And the Pakistanis are not Shia, they're Sunnis.

15:13 And so they're not subscribing to this 12th Imam theory and end of the world thesis that the Iranians seem to be all jacked about.

15:25 Well, not the Iranians, but some of them.

15:29 It's not all of Iran.

15:31 Yeah, the mullahs.

15:32 Yeah, the mullahs.

15:33 Whoever is still alive.

15:35 We don't know anything.

15:36 We don't know who's running the place.

15:39 We don't.

15:39 And you know what?

15:40 The Iranians I've spoken to.

15:42 I don't think anybody is running the place right now.

15:44 No, it's some dude with an ex-account.

15:45 Look at me.

15:47 Look at me.

15:48 Hey, watch me post this.

15:50 See what the BBC says next.

15:52 Well, much of the impetus for this latest attempt to strike a deal seems to have come from the Pakistani army chief's visit to Tehran and his talks there with Iranian officials to try to bridge the huge gaps between the two sides.

16:05 So what did they discuss? Here's Kazran Aji from BBC Persian.

16:09 The newly appointed spokesman for Iran's negotiating team says the discussions centered on a memorandum of understanding.

16:17 OK, so this annoys me. The newly appointed spokesman. Who is he? This is BBC Persia. Persian, I think she said. Shouldn't they be telling us who is talking now?

16:31 Yep. This is the BBC, which is the great journalist at the BBC. They should be telling us, giving us some details. Anything.

16:42 At least when we're talking to the press, you know it's our vice president, our new press secretary.

16:47 Come on, we're doing better.

16:48 The newly appointed spokesman for Iran's negotiating team says the discussions centered on a memorandum of understanding.

16:57 Something that will extend the ceasefire and pave the way for a 30 to 60 day period of detailed negotiations between Iran and the United States.

17:09 Ismail Barahi has been telling Iran's state television that the main issues under discussion are ending the war, the lifting of the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports, and the release of Iran's frozen assets in banks abroad.

17:24 Hold on a second. So this 30 to 60 days, this hasn't come out of the mouths of U.S. spokesholes as far as I'm concerned.

17:32 I don't know where this came from, but this is kind of the narrative I'm hearing every day.

17:38 Well, according to what everyone's been hearing, it's 30 to 60 days.

17:42 It'll be a ceasefire, not really.

17:44 They're going to hammer it out.

17:45 Yeah, but who is the progenitor of that?

17:49 Where did that come from other than BBC Persian?

17:53 They did mention somebody's name in there very casually.

17:57 It was impossible to tell.

17:59 Hold on a second.

17:59 I missed it then.

18:00 Hold on.

18:01 And the United States.

18:02 Ismail Barahi has been telling Iran's state television that the main issues under discussion

18:21 are ending the war, the lifting of the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports,

18:26 and the release of Iran's frozen assets in banks abroad.

18:30 But significantly, he does not mention anything about Iran's nuclear program

18:36 or Iran ending its blockade of the Strait of Hormuz,

18:40 something that is an urgent priority for the American side.

18:44 Hardliners in Tehran are opposed to relinquishing control of the Strait of Hormuz

18:50 in return for lifting of the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports,

18:54 a trade-off which could see the opening of this vital international waterway.

19:00 Yeah, so I'm looking at the troll room for some help,

19:03 and all I see is trolls arguing about Liz Cheney.

19:06 I think, are you guys even listening?

19:08 What's Liz Cheney?

19:08 I don't know, they're not even listening to the show.

19:12 They're just in there arguing with each other.

19:16 Liz Cheney?

19:17 One-upping each other.

19:18 No, no, it's all about midterms, election, Florida, we're going to win, we're going to lose, it's no good, Uniparty.

19:25 Simmer down, Donna Summer.

19:28 Paul Couture, he's very active these days.

19:31 Paul Couture?

19:33 Yeah, Sir Paul Couture.

19:34 Yeah, he showed up in the troll room a couple, like two weeks ago, and he started, he's trolling hard, but not listening to the show, apparently.

19:41 Anyway, so I do have a couple of clips that these are from just kind of just before this announcement, which really happened over the last like 36 hours.

19:54 Here's Rubio. This is a global radio, Canada.

19:59 As NATO allies gathered in Sweden, the U.S. made it clear it's working on multiple paths to a deal with Iran.

20:08 negotiation, and a plan for navigation of the Strait of Hormuz.

20:12 There's been some progress. I wouldn't exaggerate it. I wouldn't diminish it.

20:15 The U.S. claims the two sides are getting closer to a deal to start formal negotiations.

20:20 Iran rejects that, characterizing the differences as deep and significant,

20:25 though Iranian officials did meet with key intermediaries from Pakistan to relay their

20:31 positions. You see what we've done to Iran? Iran is dying to make a deal. We'll see what happens.

20:37 But the U.S. Secretary of State said he told NATO allies they need a backup plan if talks fail.

20:43 Plan B is what if Iran refuses to open the straits?

20:45 What if Iran decides we refuse to open the straits, we're going to own the straits, and we're going to charge tolls for it?

20:51 See, this is the part that bugs me.

20:53 So you even have the BBC saying that the U.S. controls the straits, that we are controlling the waterway, that we're making sure no one goes to the Iranian ports.

21:03 And then you've got future President Lubio saying, well, they've got to open the streets.

21:08 There's not a line of fastboats anywhere.

21:12 This is theater of the highest level.

21:16 We don't know that.

21:16 No, of course we know that.

21:18 There's no line of fastboats saying stop.

21:21 No, of course not.

21:24 There's nothing going on in that regard.

21:27 This is only about what happened to the mines.

21:32 What happened to all those?

21:33 that that fell off the radar no one's talking about the mines for a week now because there's

21:41 no mines okay at that point something has to be done about it nato's secretary general would not

21:47 openly stop a second so you think the whole thing's a hoax no it's a financial war i've said

21:55 this from the beginning it's if lloyds of london won't insure nobody for whatever reason no one

22:02 wants to use the american reinsurers through dfc and chubb that we're all that we're all set up the

22:08 international development finance corporation for whatever reason nobody wants to use those

22:13 so the shipping company's like oh it's 100 100x uh to insure your ship well we can't sail

22:19 that's what this is about the only the only the couple of brave ones who are like you know oh

22:26 we're really here to try through it dead at night by turning off their transponders and heading

22:30 through at midnight. The transponders is all bullcrap. The transponders is meaningless at

22:36 this point. Everyone's spoofing. Nobody knows where anybody really is. Open the straits. We're

22:41 going to own the straits and we're going to charge tolls for it. Okay. At that point, something has

22:45 to be done about it. NATO's secretary general would not openly talk about how the alliance

22:50 might help. In recent weeks, both the United Kingdom and France have sent aircraft carriers

22:56 to the region. This direct assault on freedom of navigation and global commerce impacts us all.

23:02 It is important that countries are coming together and have plans to ensure that the

23:08 straits can be open for transit. It is open, man. The longer the stalemate drags on, the more this

23:14 global crisis grows. More than 20,000 sailors are still trapped on vessels in the Persian Gulf,

23:20 unable to leave their ships for months and quickly running out of food.

23:24 They need a collective intervention because they are key for our economies, for the supply chains, but also they are civilians.

23:36 Like the rest of the world, they can only wait for the two sides to make a deal, trapped by a conflict that has no end in sight.

23:44 The way I see it, we are blocking the ports, the Iranian ports, and that's where everyone needs to go.

23:51 Yeah, they're going to get they got to get their stuff from UAE and from Saudi Arabia.

23:55 They're already pumping stuff over the pipelines.

23:57 Like, yeah, we're getting it out this other way.

24:00 But the Iranian oil is really the prize here.

24:03 And so they want tolls and we're saying no tolls.

24:06 That's what I keep hearing.

24:08 Toll. We want a toll.

24:10 And the toll is not to get through the whole strait.

24:12 The toll is only to to go into the Iranian ports.

24:15 And the U.S. is saying, no, you can't do that because then you can then you have too much control.

24:20 here's uh here's rubio right now we're negotiating and well that's trump actually

24:26 but rubio's coming we'll see but either we're going to get it one way or the other they're

24:30 not going to have a nuclear weapon you will have uh a nuclear war in the middle east and that war

24:36 will come here that war will go to europe uh we cannot let that happen and it won't happen it's

24:41 not going to happen that's more important than anything else that we can't think i can think of

24:45 nothing that's more important than the fact that we cannot let iran have a nuclear weapon and

24:49 and we won't. CENTCOM still enforcing its blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, saying as of May 21st.

24:55 Yes, CENTCOM still blocking. CENTCOM, everyone's claiming they're blocking their weapon and we

25:01 won't. CENTCOM still enforcing its blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, saying as of May 21st,

25:07 CENTCOM forces have redirected 94 commercial vessels and disabled four while enforcing the

25:12 blockade to prevent the flow of commerce into and out of Iranian ports. Secretary Rubio on this

25:19 topic here he is just moments ago and on the issue of iran the news this morning i know it's early on

25:24 the it's still in the united states a little later in the region in the middle east but uh we await

25:30 word on on those conversations that are ongoing there's been some slight progress i don't want

25:34 to exaggerate it but there's been a little bit of movement and that's good the fundamentals remain

25:38 the same iran can never have a nuclear weapon and then added to this of course is the issue of the

25:42 straits iran is trying to create a tolling system yeah there it is the tolling system and there's a

25:48 little twist now to the uh question you had on thursday about crypto and how how um the treasury

25:58 and uh general besant were able to uh capture the crypto because that is all stable coin so now

26:07 there's a little shift and this is part of the tolling system that is a problem for the it's

26:13 a problem for anybody but a problem for the u.s crypto experts claim that foreign adversaries

26:18 like Iran are using digital assets to evade sanctions and funnel money to bad actors.

26:23 Darren Botello joining us now. OK, Darren, how do we stop this? Laugh till.

26:28 Hi, good morning, Stuart. The good news is the Trump administration is already stopping. In fact,

26:32 we confirmed that the U.S. Treasury has been able to trace some of Iran's money. And just last month,

26:37 they froze more than 300 million dollars. This was in regime crypto, Stuart. Iran is reportedly

26:43 launching a new digital insurance platform for cargo ships. Digital insurance programs. Everyone's

26:50 in the insurance game now. This is in the Strait of Hormuz. And here's the kicker. They're settling

26:55 payments entirely in Bitcoin. Basically, this is how it works. The companies pay the insurance

27:00 companies in Bitcoin and they get through the Strait safely. That's the tradeoff. It's a direct

27:06 move to dodge our banks and scoop up a fresh source of cash. And this covers a much larger

27:12 shadow economy. New estimates from a threat detection data firm showed Tehran is sitting

27:18 on a crypto pile worth a staggering $7.7 billion. That war chest has been expanding ever since

27:25 heavy sanctions cracked down. This was during the first Trump administration, by the way.

27:30 And here's a look at the price of crude right now. The hot board's up. Prices are trading near

27:35 recent highs as regional shipping tensions, they're flaring. But the regime is counting on

27:40 crypto to keep its military funded unfortunately they keep using words like crypto because you

27:47 know crypto could be anything ethereum could be specifically said bitcoin yes i know that's what

27:53 finally someone said bitcoin but you know it could be trump's meme coin for all i know when they say

27:58 crypto but this is a problem because they cannot cannot cannot cannot block bitcoin from being used

28:06 but they have a plan. The Treasury Department is tracking the digital breadcrumbs and they're

28:11 telling Fox, here's a statement over here. Through economic fury, Treasury has taken actions that have

28:16 led to the freezing of nearly half a billion dollars worth of cryptocurrency linked to the

28:22 Iranian regime, severing financial lifelines that Iran's regime and military depend on.

28:27 According to crypto experts, Tehran's tech is actually their weak spot here. We found over and

28:33 over again that they're actually a much better asset for U.S. law enforcement and other agencies

28:39 to track because you leave a lot of breadcrumbs. So I said the administration is taking action,

28:44 but how do we actually stop this? Industry insiders say Washington has a massive trump card

28:50 here by threatening to cut off crypto exchanges from the American banking system. Regulators

28:54 could actually then flush out these foreign adversaries. Oh, please. That's going to be a

29:02 problem uh yeah grab it at the crypto exchanges okay when did this report come out because this

29:08 is old because the price of oil dropped since this thing yeah it took place um it's down to 97 come

29:16 on yeah this it was 102 when they had this but it's good i look the way i see it i don't know

29:24 exactly what the game is that's being played here i'm for sure the oil guys are loving this because

29:29 with any report like oh we'll just make it more expensive and we'll go up and we'll go down and

29:35 and and your gas station's like oh yeah let's do five dollars let's do 550 they can do whatever

29:41 they want but when the narrative has been cemented and they stop posting stuff on x because i think

29:48 there's just one dude that whose name we couldn't catch then it's just it's going to be over and

29:54 then it's going to go and everything's going to come dropping down i think it's going to come

29:57 now fast and hard that's got to be i'm just looking at i have no nothing to base this on

30:03 other than what i think trump is doing in his head by july 4th and the futures will be 60 barrel of

30:13 oil well they're going to have a hard time getting it down to 60 but it's possible the futures the

30:21 futures well futures or no futures it's still hard to get down that far you'll be buying that

30:28 stuff up like like there's no tomorrow yeah and it also screws up our shale business yeah but

30:34 those guys they were they were already struggling remember it was around 60 dollars before all this

30:41 kicked off yeah well before like venezuela days which we which is still flowing i presume i just

30:48 It's got a presumed Venezuelan oil.

30:50 You don't hear about it.

30:52 Why would you?

30:53 Everyone's all obsessed.

30:54 So I thought this autopsy of the Democrat Party, that was really interesting.

31:06 Did you catch any of this?

31:08 Yeah, I caught the whole thing.

31:09 I didn't think it was interesting in the least.

31:11 I thought it was.

31:12 Why didn't you think it was interesting?

31:13 There wasn't anything new in there.

31:16 No, no, nothing new for us. But for the Democrats, it feels like the Democrats are just all of a sudden falling apart before the midterms and they have no leader and they're all mad at each other.

31:28 I thought that was interesting. And so I brought two clips now to the deepening divisions within the Democratic Party and the long awaited release of the so-called 2024 election autopsy.

31:38 The report was commissioned by Democratic National Committee Chairman Ken Martin.

31:42 Its purpose, to help the party understand why former Vice President Kamala Harris lost to President Donald Trump.

31:48 Martin got an independent consultant to write it, but then put off its release, saying it was badly done.

31:54 After pressure from other Democrats, today the DNC chair published the 192-page draft that he says is still littered with typos and inaccuracies.

32:03 The paper argues that Harris wrote off rural voters and failed to attack President Trump with the sufficient negative firepower.

32:10 The DNC adding disclaimers that the autopsy doesn't reflect the committee's views.

32:14 Our political pros are here to discuss.

32:16 Ashley Etienne is a former communications director to VP Harris and Corbyn Trent is a former aide to AOC and Bernie Sanders.

32:24 I thank you both for being here.

32:25 Ashley, you were one of the people pushing for this report's release.

32:28 And just hours ago, you told our good friend, Kristen Welker, that Ken Martin should step down.

32:33 Explain why.

32:33 Well, I think this is a complete failure of leadership.

32:37 Ken Martin really has two jobs, really, is to run, to raise money and to win elections.

32:41 He chose to instead of releasing a forward looking document that lays out a vision on how to rebuild this party, how to win elections going forward from the state level to the national level.

32:52 instead what he released is a pre-decisional document with critics to cover his hide that's

32:59 really what does that mean here unfortunately pre-decisional i don't know what does it mean

33:03 doesn't mean jack she's just saying stuff i think we should use it ourselves it's pre-decisional

33:08 for you to say that it's pre-decisional for you to say i'm pre-decisional when elections going

33:13 forward from the state level to the national level instead what he released is a pre-decisional

33:18 document with critiques in it to cover his hide. That's really what's great here. And fortunately,

33:24 we've got a situation with democracy on the line. We've got the party is having

33:31 struggles. Fundraising is polling at 28 percent. And Ken Martin made this entire autopsy debate

33:39 about himself rather than about the party, about how to rebuild the party and how to bring back

33:44 what we're seeing a bleeding support among the party's base vote voters feels to me like a coup

33:50 was underway someone's yeah they're trying to get rid of this martin guy it's pretty obvious

33:54 yeah well who's he was a dud when they put him in we noticed this when they were doing it remember

33:59 they did the oh you have to have so many lesbians voting and then you have to have a gender fluid

34:05 person in there and and then they didn't pick one they picked a white guy and you know we needed a

34:12 White pock.

34:13 Yeah, I forgot about that.

34:16 Yes.

34:17 And then they picked some heteronormative guy.

34:22 Who needs that?

34:23 He's out.

34:24 Whatever happened to the kid from Florida?

34:26 Wasn't he part of the leadership?

34:27 He was the second in command, and they ousted him.

34:31 Oh, he already got kicked out?

34:32 Yeah, because there was too many white guys.

34:35 My goodness.

34:37 So sad.

34:38 Let me see.

34:40 He's still floating around online on some social networks, bitching.

34:45 Let me see if this is any good from, let me see.

34:48 Allies of former President Joe Biden failed to give Kamala Harris needed support before her 107-day sprint to Election Day in 2024.

34:57 No, that's no good.

34:58 That's just the same.

34:59 Hey, by the way, I think Tom Yamas, who I like.

35:03 I know you do.

35:03 If you listen to him, the way his voice is, he's got a kind of a funny lilt.

35:09 He sounds like he's about one, he's like one little accent away from sounding like a surfer dude.

35:16 I'll need to pay attention to it now.

35:19 He just sounds like he's going to drop right into, hey man, hey cowabunga.

35:27 Hey man, what surfer says cowabunga?

35:32 That's what they used to say.

35:34 No, they've never, that was the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

35:38 There was never any surfer dude who said cowabunga.

35:41 No.

35:42 Yeah, you check it out.

35:43 Meanwhile, our top Democrat socialist of America is Mayor Mondami.

35:49 Mondami.

35:51 Mum.

35:51 Mum.

35:52 Is it Mondami or Mumdani?

35:55 I can't remember.

35:56 I'm going to listen to you struggle.

35:58 Yeah.

35:58 Well, OK, thanks.

36:00 Mumdani.

36:00 Mumdani.

36:01 He's come up with a brilliant new plan.

36:04 He is now the social media mayor.

36:06 Mayor Mamdani, known as the social media mayor, and now he is launching a live stream series on Twitch answering questions from New Yorkers.

36:15 This is Gavin Newsom's strategy.

36:16 This is not a good idea.

36:18 What do you mean?

36:18 This is what Trump did.

36:19 Trump became the social media president.

36:22 Yeah, but Trump didn't start, he wasn't doing podcasting, he wasn't doing videos.

36:28 You know, he was basically just tweeting a lot of stuff at three in the morning, so what?

36:34 Yeah, well, listen to this.

36:36 In real time.

36:36 Because Mamdani has some good ideas.

36:39 Well, he did get in through social media, doing a lot of videos,

36:43 because I guess his wife was a producer or something.

36:46 Here we go.

36:47 ...with the people, and it will be shared on several social media platforms.

36:51 Also be posting these conversations wherever you listen to podcasts.

36:55 Whoa, he's using the broadcast sentence of the future.

36:59 The most powerful sentence in broadcasting, wherever you get your podcasts.

37:04 Yeah, well, is that what he said?

37:06 No, he said, you'll be listening to this wherever you get your podcast.

37:10 That's what he said.

37:11 Listen to it again.

37:12 It's called Talk With The People, and it will be shared on several social media platforms.

37:18 Also be posting these conversations wherever you listen to podcasts.

37:21 Oh, you're right.

37:22 You listen to podcasts.

37:23 He never says get.

37:24 Yeah, good point.

37:25 On your commute, washing dishes, pretending to answer emails.

37:28 Yeah, that's like all the social democrats.

37:30 They just don't really work.

37:32 They pretend to be answering emails, so that makes sense.

37:34 Because government should be accessible.

37:37 You should hear directly from your city about what we're doing and why we're doing it.

37:41 Mamdani made this announcement with a photo.

37:44 Was he supposed to do that at press conferences?

37:46 No, man, he's hip.

37:48 On social media, here it is, a picture of himself next to FDR, who did a series of fireside chats.

37:55 This is CBS New York, who are all in.

37:58 Just listen to how they're fawning over him in this.

38:00 Over the radio.

38:02 So political reporter Marsha Kramer joins me now to talk a little bit more about this strategy.

38:06 Marsha, what's your take on the mayor's live stream?

38:09 Well, Christine, I would say it was an R-rated performance.

38:12 But unlike the movies where an R means restricted, here it stands for relatable.

38:17 The mayor was relaxed, chatty, didn't wear a tie, and did the live stream with an expert named Moose,

38:23 who read questions from people who logged into Twitch.

38:25 Now, Moose instructed the mayor in live stream manners.

38:29 He told them to say, chat, what's up?

38:30 And to say something good is called bussin'.

38:33 Oh my gosh, I think I need a...

38:36 Bussin'.

38:36 Bussin'.

38:37 What?

38:38 Bussin'.

38:40 What's bussin'?

38:41 Well, that's what Mondani said.

38:43 Bussin'.

38:43 That's when something...

38:44 It's bussin', man.

38:45 That's what the kids say.

38:46 You got kids around, you bussin'.

38:47 I've never heard the kids say bussin'.

38:49 Your kids are too old.

38:51 They're saying bussin'.

38:52 And you're supposed to say, what's up, chat?

38:53 No, you're supposed to say, what up, trolls?

38:56 People who logged into Twitch.

38:58 Now, Moose instructed the mayor in live stream manners.

39:01 He told them to say...

39:02 Wait, they logged into Twitch?

39:03 Twitch.

39:04 What, Leo's show?

39:05 Twitch.

39:06 Oh, Twitch.

39:07 Chat, what's up?

39:08 Chat, what's up?

39:09 And say something good is called fussing.

39:10 What's up?

39:11 Oh, my gosh.

39:12 I think I need a manual to do this.

39:14 You need a manual.

39:16 I need a manual.

39:17 All right, I need to read up on this and get with this language.

39:21 But talk to me about the strategy of going on Twitch.

39:25 Look, this is a mayor who has used social media in ways that other politicians are green with envy about.

39:31 It's a way to circumvent reporters who tend to ask, well, let's just say, pointed questions.

39:36 This is, okay, taking it, we always said the guy was doing a Trump, like promise everything.

39:42 I wrote a whole column, and if you go to dvorak.substack.com, I wrote a entire column about it.

39:47 Yes, the oasis is filled up with it.

39:50 And to listen to the concerns of the people.

39:55 So, yes, the mayor did explain his budget and his desire to see free buzzing, not bussin'.

40:00 And he was also asked if he played Minecraft.

40:02 No.

40:03 Talked about the Knicks and Captain Clutch to Brunson.

40:06 Oh, that's an elaborate question.

40:07 And revealed his favorite place for tacos.

40:08 It was a very man-of-the-people performance.

40:11 Well, what's his favorite place for tacos?

40:13 We didn't hear.

40:14 They didn't tell us.

40:15 Well, these guys are no good.

40:16 Former mayor Fiorello LaGuardia, who famously read comic strips to people on the radio during a newspaper strike.

40:23 So social media is his form of radio.

40:26 Indeed, it was very relatable.

40:28 Did LaGuardia do that?

40:32 Yeah, LaGuardia was a social media guy.

40:35 FDR did too.

40:38 Fireside Chat was an example.

40:41 But yeah, LaGuardia would go on and he'd have a radio show

40:45 and he read comics and discussed the newspaper

40:48 and he did all this stuff.

40:49 He was very down to earth.

40:51 People loved the show.

40:53 That's interesting.

40:54 It's like a podcaster.

40:55 Yeah, OG podcaster.

40:57 I need to look that up.

40:57 So I think that's all Mamdani is doing, which is, you know, he's taking it from the best.

41:03 You know, steal from the best.

41:04 Yeah, that's good.

41:04 That's good.

41:05 So we were talking about Massey.

41:08 Oh, man, probably the most frequently emailed thing.

41:11 No, two, Paxton and Massey have been just filling up my email inbox.

41:15 Yeah, I love the Paxton stuff.

41:18 Yeah.

41:18 Apparently, your people in Fredericksburg are idiots.

41:22 Well, there's a couple of issues.

41:27 One, the most important one for the people in Fredericksburg,

41:31 and all politics is local, I've heard someone say many times,

41:36 it was Paxton whose office wrote up the big press release excoriating our doctor,

41:43 who is still, in my opinion, in jail unjustly.

41:48 Oh, yeah, the doctor who got just, yeah, yeah, that guy.

41:52 We know about him.

41:53 He was a good guy who just got over his head.

41:59 Well, he got rousted into a scam.

42:01 Yeah, he got rousted into a scam.

42:03 That is what I meant, in over his head.

42:05 Yeah, and Paxson wrote this whole, well, we got him.

42:08 This is the guy, the linchpin.

42:09 Okay, that makes sense.

42:12 No wonder.

42:13 I wouldn't like the guy either if he pulled that stunt.

42:15 Exactly, exactly.

42:17 So I'm on your side now.

42:19 Thank you.

42:19 There's a couple other things about Paxson, but you didn't ask me after the show, so I couldn't tell you.

42:23 But I'll tell you if you remember to ask me.

42:25 Oh, you know, I forgot to ask.

42:27 You forgot to ask.

42:28 I know.

42:29 I put a note down, too.

42:30 Okay, I'll ask today.

42:34 Victor David Hanson, Victor Davis Hanson, Victor Dave, Dave, Dave.

42:39 He's a VDH.

42:40 VDH.

42:41 VDH had a great bit about Massey.

42:45 And he addresses everything, and you just can't argue with VDH.

42:50 I mean, he's—

42:50 No, he's the best.

42:51 And he does it so calmly and—

42:54 Yeah, he calms me smothers.

42:55 Scott Jennings, whom I really respect, he's a really great commentator.

42:58 He takes on people at CNN.

43:00 He summed it up.

43:01 I can add something to it, but he did a wonderful job.

43:04 He pointed out a couple of things, that the district that Massey represented in Kentucky is probably the reddest district in the United States.

43:14 So, those people wanted a strong, strong conservative.

43:18 They didn't object as long as he was libertarian, if he was going to be a libertarian strong conservative.

43:25 And by that, I mean he came to prominence during the COVID when he said there was overreach.

43:30 They even gave him some slack when he was opposing the big spending by both parties.

43:38 But what they couldn't countenance was this, that when you can have the luxury of a Susan Collins in the Senate or a Rand Paul that don't vote 95%, you know, they're mavericks.

43:53 Mavericks.

43:54 And sometimes they were Lisa Murkowski.

43:57 That's a indulgence when you have five seats in the Senate margin.

44:04 You can have three defections.

44:06 Okay.

44:07 But when you're close in the house, every little seat, and they only got two seat margin, you can't afford that.

44:14 And so when he started, after he became a folk hero on the right, he decided that he was going to become famous on the Epstein files.

44:26 And the problem with that was he didn't say a word really when Biden was president.

44:31 And the majority, the vast majority of people who appear, whether it's Larry Summers or Reid Hoffman or all these people, they're on the left.

44:40 So it didn't condemn Donald Trump.

44:42 It didn't condemn a bunch of conservatives.

44:44 And that's what he was trying to partner with AOC and others and saying, oh, there's going to be Republicans.

44:49 And it was a farce.

44:51 All right.

44:52 So he's going to give his voting record in a moment, and then he's going to address the Israel issue.

44:58 But now it kind of makes sense to me now because Massey was more what you'd call a classic libertarian, which I think is what Ron Paul always was, what Rand Paul is.

45:09 Do you think that they're true Republicans or are they more – they just feel like libertarians.

45:14 And that's why a lot of people who listen to us and listen to other podcasts, they like that.

45:19 They like the, oh, man, he's in the middle.

45:22 He's not going with those guys.

45:26 Well, I'm not a big fan of libertarianism, even though I called myself one for a few years.

45:32 It's okay. You slipped. It's okay.

45:34 It's kind of a stupid moniker because it doesn't really mean anything specifically.

45:39 John at Dvorak.org.

45:41 Nah, I don't care.

45:42 But they always email me when you say these things.

45:46 They should. They should email you because they know that you can get to me.

45:50 You're spiraling.

45:53 So, so he may be, I mean, it's, it seems to me that it's just a cop out for, you know, yeah, you know, it's, it's the old, well, I'm a, I'm conservative when it comes to a fiscal conservative, I'm a social liberal kind of, I'm a combination.

46:15 I think drugs should be legalized and maybe it shouldn't be.

46:20 Maybe it shouldn't be.

46:21 I don't care.

46:22 Everyone should do their own thing and do their own thing.

46:25 That's the old,

46:25 I think that's the basis is from back in the sixties.

46:28 Do your own thing,

46:29 man.

46:30 Hippies,

46:30 hippies,

46:30 tune in,

46:31 drop out.

46:32 Yeah.

46:32 Turn on,

46:34 tune in,

46:35 drop out.

46:36 That kind of,

46:37 that's where I think it all stems from.

46:39 And it's corny.

46:39 It's corny.

46:40 So just be an independent.

46:42 And that's the way to go or non-affiliated in my case.

46:46 Unaffiliated.

46:46 We were both unaffiliated.

46:48 Unaffiliated is the way to go.

46:49 Here we go.

46:49 So that blew up on him.

46:51 And he kept trying to get back on to the mainstream and get attention.

46:55 And Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lorraine Bobbitt and Tucker, all those people loved him.

47:00 Bober.

47:01 That didn't work.

47:03 And then so he voted.

47:04 The big defections came when he voted against the big beautiful bill.

47:08 He voted against the closing the borders.

47:11 And he voted against the SAVE Act, a voter ID.

47:14 And this was the big one, the SAVE Act.

47:16 And that's what Cornyn was also voting against, which makes no sense.

47:22 I mean, the SAVE Act is the most sensible thing in the world.

47:26 And he voted against the SAVE Act, a voter ID.

47:31 And once he did that, he crossed the Rubicon.

47:33 The left made him into a brave maverick.

47:37 But he was always an ambiguous, problematic person.

47:43 He didn't have a lot of principles.

47:45 He had convenient principles because, as you pointed out, to save his skin, he put out a false ad that years ago Trump had endorsed him when he won 80% against no opposition, essentially.

47:57 So he re-ran that to fool people and think that Trump had flipped.

48:01 Number two, he said in his defeat that he couldn't find his opponent because he's in Tel Aviv.

48:09 Does anybody really believe he lost because of the Jews?

48:13 Yes.

48:14 Yes.

48:15 Entire villages of people believe this.

48:18 Yeah, I agree with that.

48:19 I agree with you.

48:20 Yeah, they do.

48:21 In fact, the notes that I got mostly was that the Jew money, what's her name?

48:27 Miriam Adelson.

48:28 Miriam.

48:29 Miriam.

48:30 that evil miriam she's the one who she's just pumped all this money that's why i lost no there's

48:36 been you know that people who say it was a money issue keep ignoring the fact that trump always had

48:42 less money than the democrats and beat them every time how about how about musk spending a hundred

48:47 million in matt in wisconsin yeah and then musk spent a ton of money in wisconsin to defeat a

48:53 couple of people and they got nowhere yeah but you money is yes money is a factor when thing

49:00 when they're all things are even but when when you have people that are running on the basis of

49:06 various kinds of philosophies or uh or screwiness that took place with this massey thing no it's not

49:12 a fact it's i mean it's a it's a factor but it's a minor factor it wasn't because of the money that

49:18 he lost you know although people will argue with me because i had this my thesis is because of the

49:23 fake scandal but you know i'm not so sure about that i i'm sticking with my scandal theory but

49:30 like our mayor in fredericksburg had a lot less money than his than his uh co-contestant and uh

49:38 then she got a lot of media she was in you know the hill and vine with her family a full picture

49:44 spread and everything it wasn't money it wasn't money that got randy briley elected

49:50 But, you know, it's policy, it's, you know, our church probably.

49:56 His opponent because he's in Tel Aviv.

49:58 Does anybody really believe he lost because of the Jews?

50:02 He opposed the war and he always votes against Israel, but that's not why he lost.

50:09 He lost because he deliberately on key votes that had nothing to do with Israel turned on Donald Trump from a red district.

50:18 It would be the analogous of, say, Nancy Pelosi's district.

50:24 It's the bluest in the U.S., San Francisco.

50:28 And then she started to vote with Republicans.

50:31 That would be the end of her.

50:34 That, to me, sounds a lot more plausible for Kentucky.

50:39 Well, somebody else pointed out that he wasn't doing anything for his district either.

50:43 He was doing national issues.

50:46 He was making a big fuss.

50:47 he did nothing for the locals which is the biggest problem we have in in politics in america in

50:53 general everyone's always focused on you know the big national stuff look at your own look at your

50:58 own town fix stuff there here's a a clip about cornyn since we brought him up the only way to

51:05 pass the save america act is to nuke the filibuster because you're never going to get 60 votes because

51:10 the democrats cannot vote yes for this even though they know it's common sense uh but they will never

51:16 win an election again if the save america act passes so you're not going to get any democrats

51:20 to vote for it and then look the democrats that are refusing or the republicans refusing to pass

51:25 this are the ones that are on their way out look at senator mcconnell senator cassidy senator tillis

51:31 and now you know what this is amazing about what cornyn is showing is true colors this is what we

51:35 were talking about for the last six weeks on this show as to why cornyn could not have another six

51:40 years is because it is dangerous to have these senators that we know hate the trump agenda hate

51:45 MAGA to be in the Senate without having to, knowing they're not going to run for re-election

51:50 again, because Corden, there was no way he was going to run for another term after this. He is

51:53 too old. So right now he is proving to us exactly what he told, we were warning you guys about.

51:58 We need new blood and people that actually support Trump's agenda. And because these guys

52:03 on their way out, they love to love to just obstruct what this country wants and what

52:08 President Trump wants. That's interesting. I hadn't actually thought about that.

52:12 Just because they've been primaried doesn't mean that they don't have a vote during before the midterms.

52:18 Yep.

52:19 So I'm not quite sure what the strategy is there.

52:23 But they were going to do that vote anyway.

52:25 I mean, these guys, I have no idea why anyone was thinks like these guys and why the Democrats is this thinking that, oh, if we if we vote for this and get the voter ID, then we'll never win another election.

52:40 that's nonsense the democrats it's democrat socialists maybe and maybe the corrupt democrats

52:46 in california and the west coast where the voter by mail is the dominant feature maybe yeah some

52:52 democrats won't get elected again but but getting back to the middle the democrats will get elected

52:57 plenty of times that's bull crap well i mean it's a you know the democrats are actually by

53:06 being this way, are admitting

53:08 that they're corrupt.

53:09 Yeah, they are.

53:12 They are.

53:14 Oh, I don't want to say you banged your mic

53:16 cable, but it sure sounds like it. No, I had to move it

53:18 because I'm about to sneeze. Oh, okay.

53:20 Why don't you sneeze? Well, no, luckily

53:22 because you did that,

53:24 you said that. I interrupted you.

53:26 Yeah, you interrupted the sneeze,

53:28 which means it'll come later. That's my

53:30 least favorite thing people do.

53:32 Oh, bless you, they say it ahead of time.

53:35 When you got that big sneeze coming and you're gearing up for it.

53:39 I've never heard anybody do that.

53:41 Oh, people love doing that.

53:42 In advance of the sneeze?

53:44 They see you going, they see you going, and then they'll say, oh, God bless you, before you sneeze.

53:49 I've never had that happen to me.

53:51 Maybe it's an East Coast thing versus West Coast.

53:55 So the big thing that had everybody occupied in these past few days since our last podcast, mask gate.

54:05 What?

54:06 Mask gate.

54:07 I can't believe your algos did not show you the mask.

54:12 I don't know what you're talking about.

54:13 Internet sleuths have come up with the wild theory that this Fox News guest was wearing a hyper-realistic mask,

54:20 straight out of Mission Impossible.

54:22 Retired Vice Admiral Robert Harward has gone viral for his May 19th interview on Fox News,

54:28 after hordes of social media users noticed what they said appeared to be an unusual shadow on the bottom of his neck.

54:35 If you have not seen this, you've got to look this up.

54:37 While I'm playing the skip, you have to.

54:39 The guy is Hayward, H-A-W-A-R-D.

54:42 Just go on X, type in Hayward, and you'll see the mask.

54:46 Leading to the wild theory that the contributor was wearing a hyper-realistic mask.

54:51 Many fueling the notion have pointed out that Harward is a regular contributor to the program,

54:56 and that in all his appearances, several of which were as recent as this month,

55:01 his neck appears completely normal.

55:04 The outlandish claim has since spread like wildfire and turned into a full-blown internet meltdown, as many couldn't help themselves but to weigh in.

55:11 Left-wing podcaster Ed Krasenstein joined in on the hysteria on X.

55:16 Can anyone really explain this? Why does it look like Fox News put a man with a mask in their show, he wrote.

55:23 While conservative media personality Megan McCain joined in on this.

55:27 Okay, just not to interrupt, but I'm interrupting.

55:31 Yeah, I saw this image originally with the circle around this little area down at the bottom where it looks like a tattoo or something.

55:37 And I just, I just glossed it.

55:41 Oh, I didn't pay any attention to it.

55:42 So I missed, I missed it.

55:43 Oh, people are losing their ever-loving minds.

55:46 I don't see why.

55:47 Looks like the same guy to me.

55:49 I'll finish the clip and I'll tell you what I think.

55:51 called back to another viral internet moment, writing,

55:55 That motherf***er is not real.

55:57 Others online have tried to bring the situation back down to earth by offering several possible

56:03 explanations.

56:03 It's a shadow, or more precisely, a combination of shadows from the many lights in the studio

56:09 and his shirt collar creating a weird overlap of shades on his neck, one user wrote.

56:15 While another asserted that the oddity can simply be explained by a smoothing filter

56:20 that caused artifacting that they noted is common on virtual calls.

56:24 Even Polymarket has gotten in on the action,

56:27 allowing users to wager on the outlandish theory.

56:30 All right.

56:31 So what do you think, since we need to settle this for everybody?

56:35 Well, first of all, I know these things are not completely without precedent,

56:43 having these masks, and some of them are pretty dynamite.

56:45 There's a lot of examples online of people putting them on and what they look like.

56:50 uh the typical these these masks go over the head and they they're they they're pretty big

56:56 in terms of what they cover up around the neck area they go way down into the chest area they're

57:01 they're big yeah and so you don't this little anomaly here it doesn't it looks like bullcrap

57:08 to me well i'd like to remind people of my family member in 1967 um her husband brought someone home

57:20 from work that she did not know for dinner and during coffee and dessert this person who she

57:26 did not know 1967 okay this is when i was uh what was i i was three so this is uh 58 years ago

57:36 this person pulled off the mask and it was someone who she knew really well that was technology over

57:43 50 years ago right the technology has only gotten amazingly good and i i i agree with the

57:51 because the whole face that looked kind of smoothed out i agree with the the smoothing

57:56 and some anomaly that the you know that the filters brought in because on zoom or webex

58:02 whatever they're using you have a number of buttons you know make it high def make it make

58:08 my skin look good and i think it was that and also to what end who cares this was yeah i know

58:16 it's not as though it's biden yeah exactly this guy was he was in vietnam i think who cares why

58:25 would that why is this even necessary but oh no oh no everyone's oh this is it no no i agree with

58:32 Dude, yeah, who cares?

58:34 It's bull crap.

58:35 It's not, you know, it's not the president.

58:37 It's not like, you know, Hillary.

58:39 It's not like, you know, anybody important in that regard.

58:43 I mean, the guy's important to himself and to the show, I guess,

58:46 but it's beside the point.

58:47 Who cares?

58:48 Yeah.

58:49 So it was just like, oh.

58:51 No, I missed it.

58:51 I missed it completely.

58:52 Oh, it's just like, come on, people.

58:54 No, no, no.

58:55 Now, Biden, definitely daddy long legs, no doubt about it.

59:00 I mean, that was a whole different dude who was running across the White House lawn.

59:04 Well, you know the story behind that, the current story, right?

59:06 No, I don't.

59:07 What's the current story?

59:08 The latest story was that a Biden impersonator was hired sometime during the administration to do a bit on the show.

59:19 And he was so good, and they liked him so much, they decided to use him as a substitute Biden every so often.

59:25 And then he got moved into a full-time position.

59:29 Oh, that's the story now, is it?

59:31 That's the story now, yes.

59:33 That's good.

59:33 Well, let's break apart another misconception by people.

59:42 This is, let me see.

59:43 This was the shooting at the White House, near the White House.

59:48 It was an interesting little story about this that I think people should think about.

59:55 Because I'll get into it.

59:57 Let's play this first.

59:58 We're getting some new details about the shooting that took place on the corner of 17th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue at about 6 p.m. Eastern time.

1:00:05 Let's cross over now to our senior law enforcement correspondent, Mark Santillo, who has more details.

1:00:10 Mark, what have you learned?

1:00:11 We just from two sources briefed on the incident, as well as an internal law enforcement document.

1:00:16 We know now that the suspect is Nasir Best, who was transported to George Washington Hospital as a Secret Service said he has passed away.

1:00:25 Now, the first thing that happened online was they started showing a picture

1:00:31 of one of those crazy trans dudes, which was, you know, from, I don't know,

1:00:38 years ago, saying, oh, yeah, it's another trans shooter.

1:00:42 Everything on social media is fake.

1:00:45 That's how you have to look at everything.

1:00:49 Everything is fake.

1:00:50 Nothing is real.

1:00:52 It's really not even worth your time.

1:00:54 But that was the first thing that showed up, and it's actually, it's a black guy.

1:00:57 The suspect previously approached the White House.

1:01:00 There was interaction in the past between the suspect and law enforcement in June of 2025.

1:01:07 There was an order for him to stay away from the White House.

1:01:10 That incident in June of 2025 from an internal law enforcement document, according to sources,

1:01:16 it happened on July, the last summer, near the White House.

1:01:21 an officer in police uniform, full police uniform, was working at a pedestrian access control post

1:01:26 at the White House. When he observed best, the suspect walked into a restricted area by using

1:01:32 the exit turnstile lane that was located at the post. And apparently that restricted area

1:01:36 had multiple signs there, Amon, stating do not enter exit only, police line do not cross,

1:01:42 pass holders and appointments only. Again, this was near the White House area.

1:01:47 The suspect was immediately told to stop.

1:01:50 The suspect did not listen to the verbal commands from the officer, did not stop, and continued to go further into the restricted area.

1:01:57 The suspect was arrested, according to multiple sources.

1:02:02 The suspect had no prior arrests at that time.

1:02:06 The suspect claimed he was Jesus Christ, and he wanted to, quote, get arrested.

1:02:10 The suspect has a history of mental health issues.

1:02:14 Again, suspect known to United States Secret Service for walking around the White House area complex, inquiring how to gain access, and was taken into custody last year.

1:02:23 Again, the suspect being named is Nasir Best.

1:02:26 Okay, so one of the things that I keep hearing about AI data centers, and this has become almost a meme.

1:02:36 People are saying, well, you know, they're building all these data centers so that they can store all of your information to spy on you with Palantir and the flock cameras.

1:02:47 Have you heard this?

1:02:49 Oh, yeah.

1:02:50 So this is Washington, D.C.

1:02:53 This is the White House.

1:02:54 Also, shot spotters got to go.

1:02:57 Well, that's that's that's kind of out of the picture.

1:02:59 But it's the flock cameras.

1:03:00 It's Palantir.

1:03:02 They're tracking you.

1:03:03 They're tracking everything.

1:03:04 Now, the people that are tracking you are you're paying money to you.

1:03:08 You're Google and you're Apple and, you know, Microsoft.

1:03:12 These are the people tracking you. You can just buy that information.

1:03:15 But if it really was true that they're surveilling you on everything, how does this guy who the law enforcement knew about him?

1:03:25 They knew that he had mental problems. They already warned him, got a restraining order.

1:03:31 So they're not tracking this guy.

1:03:33 They're not tracking it with Palantir doing a minority report with flock cameras and his phone and everything and storing it in your local data center.

1:03:43 Can we just get a reality check on this for a minute?

1:03:47 It's not happening.

1:03:50 They're not that good.

1:03:52 They're not that good.

1:03:55 They're not that good.

1:03:56 They are tracking, but they're not that good.

1:03:58 They're not that good.

1:03:59 That's the point.

1:04:00 Of course they're tracking, but yeah, they are not.

1:04:02 I mean, this is what happened with the 9-11.

1:04:04 Come on.

1:04:05 Yes, exactly.

1:04:07 All these guys were under some look-see.

1:04:10 Whatever that was.

1:04:11 All of them.

1:04:13 That may have been a different, oh, dancing is for ladies.

1:04:16 Well, yes, but let's just assume that we're going to go with the official thing.

1:04:20 Yeah.

1:04:20 Because the official thing, why would you do the official thing that just indicates you're boneheads?

1:04:25 Yeah.

1:04:27 I mean, the official story indicates that you're incompetent.

1:04:29 incompetent yes well why would you do that oh we're dumb i don't know i just throw everybody

1:04:35 off track would give us more money right there you go and then another one so this this i really

1:04:42 like this and i've dealt with immigration for and by the way you wait stop before you leave that

1:04:48 topic i thought it was interesting that we had the different reactions to the gunshots there's

1:04:53 like 30 shots and i don't know what they hit they never told us did it hit the white house were they

1:04:58 just in the air who knows but there was a chinese broadcaster and she ditched ditched everything and

1:05:04 ran under a table immediately and then there was some dipshit yeah you know wesley girl that's

1:05:11 going i think i actually have the clip of her hold on a second uh the wesley girl what's that

1:05:16 what is that noise i think this is her we witnessed a tense moment at the white house

1:05:21 late yesterday our selena wang was there and selena joins me now from the white house

1:05:26 and selena you were there as shots rang out clearly audible i want to play a little bit of

1:05:33 that scene that president trump has said a deal is close only for the two sides to remain far

1:05:40 apart that was the one now you're right that was the one who who had to go well i think she

1:05:47 actually said something about it hold on going on for quite some time uh what was going on yeah

1:05:52 Yeah, John, I mean, this shooting was actually happening just meters from where I'm standing.

1:05:56 Meters?

1:05:57 Meters?

1:05:58 Meters?

1:05:58 Since when do we use meters?

1:06:00 That's interesting.

1:06:03 That's a good one.

1:06:04 What are meters?

1:06:05 Meters?

1:06:06 She's a Chinese spy.

1:06:08 What was going on?

1:06:10 Yeah, John, I mean, this shooting was actually happening just meters from where I'm standing right now.

1:06:15 And in that video you played, that is the exact place where I'm here right now.

1:06:19 I was preparing to go live for World News Tonight.

1:06:21 And you notice in the video that I continue talking for the first few seconds of those gunshots because my initial thought was this must be fireworks or something else.

1:06:29 Then I heard to get down.

1:06:31 So the team and I, we immediately dropped to the ground, ducked and covered.

1:06:35 Then we heard Secret Service yelling for us to move, to sprint to the.

1:06:39 OK, anyway, moving on.

1:06:43 So I got one of our knights sent me a very long email.

1:06:50 He said, you shouldn't be so glib about the Muslims.

1:06:53 Okay.

1:06:54 You're glib about the Muslims?

1:06:56 Yeah.

1:06:57 Well, he was kind of misstating it.

1:07:01 This is what I said.

1:07:03 Dude, I don't know what you're talking about.

1:07:04 Because he was saying, these foreigners coming in.

1:07:07 I'm doing an accent.

1:07:08 These foreigners coming in, they're taking away jobs from our kids.

1:07:12 All the H-1B visas.

1:07:14 And I said, first of all, we're talking about something else.

1:07:19 But right as I'm reading this email, this new policy comes out,

1:07:25 which I think is a dynamite policy for the United States,

1:07:28 which takes care in one fell swoop of all the issues about H-1B visas.

1:07:35 And I really like it.

1:07:36 And I've been dealing with immigration in the U.S. for 30, more than 30 years.

1:07:44 I've made many people legal.

1:07:47 Some I was married to, some not.

1:07:49 But this is a very good policy.

1:07:53 Well, the Trump administration announcing a major shift in how it processes green card applications.

1:07:59 Moving forward, non-immigrants in the U.S. are going to have to return to their home countries.

1:08:04 Scripps News legal affairs correspondent Ava Joy Burnett is looking into this, James.

1:08:09 So, Ava Joy, who would be impacted by it?

1:08:12 Quite a few people, a couple thousand people, maybe hundreds of thousands, according to some immigration attorneys.

1:08:19 I could be impacted here.

1:08:20 This is a new memo that was released by the Department of Homeland Security under USCIS.

1:08:25 And according to officials in the Trump administration, according to this memo,

1:08:29 they say people who are here in the United States who want to apply for a green card,

1:08:33 they must leave the United States, head back to their home countries,

1:08:37 and apply for the green cards from outside of the United States.

1:08:42 This memo was issued late last evening, but we started to see more details

1:08:46 on what reactions were like earlier today.

1:08:50 And some of the people who could potentially be impacted here are students,

1:08:54 people who came to the United States as students.

1:08:56 There could be people who are here as temporary workers and even tourists.

1:09:02 And here's what an official with USCIS, this is the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services,

1:09:09 this is what a spokesperson for that agency, which is under DHS,

1:09:13 This is what they said with regards to this new memo that has been really getting quite some attention.

1:09:20 They said, we are returning to the original intent of the law to ensure aliens navigate our nation's immigration systems properly.

1:09:28 From now on, an alien who is in the U.S. temporarily and wants a green card must return to their home country to apply, except for in extraordinary circumstances.

1:09:41 Yes, this is good.

1:09:43 And I don't know if people understand how this is going to impact the H-1B.

1:09:47 And, of course, the people who do H-1B immigration visas, temporary visas, they're all flipping out about it.

1:09:53 But here's the explanation of how this will actually impact them.

1:09:56 And we have to presume that the only way this will work is if the US, UCIS, if they, was it UCI, yeah, the US, the immigration services, they have to have enough people and systems to actually handle this.

1:10:13 but i've done this i've had to arrange a green card with someone going back to their country

1:10:20 of origin and it took a few weeks but it's not impossible and if they make that system work that

1:10:26 way it's going to be very good particularly for those of you worried about h1b visa holders taking

1:10:31 your kids jobs some of the attorneys who i spoke with earlier today uh they weren't as concerned

1:10:37 about what this actually means one person told me they are pretty sure people will be able to

1:10:42 continue to apply for that green card status. But then there are other attorneys who were really

1:10:48 concerned. They said that they've been getting many calls from their clients. Some of those

1:10:53 clients are extremely alarmed. And they're talking about people who have family members here. There

1:10:59 are folks who are working here in the United States. They may be married to U.S. citizens.

1:11:03 They may be here on an H-1B visa where they're able to work. So pretty much they have set up

1:11:09 lives here in the United States and they're going through this process of applying for a green card

1:11:14 so they're now wondering what is next for us take a listen to what one of those attorneys told me

1:11:20 who does this impact right it's family members of U.S. citizens the the immediate relatives of

1:11:25 them so their spouses their parents their children it includes people who are here

1:11:31 working with U.S. employers who are in the process or in like legal status working and are in the

1:11:37 process of applying for their green card which can take decades so it gives them a temporary way to

1:11:44 stay here so they're not upended and their work is not upended. And that attorney with the American

1:11:49 Immigration Lawyers Association she told me that this is something that could potentially impact

1:11:55 hundreds of thousands of folks. For example back in fiscal year 2023 this is where we have

1:12:00 the most recent data about 600,000 people were in line applying for their green card going through

1:12:07 that process. This is a process that could potentially take months or even years. So we're

1:12:12 talking about the possibility of hundreds of thousands of people who are waiting and they're

1:12:17 now wondering, what does this actually mean for them? We've been told that there's a possibility

1:12:23 that lawsuits could be filed really to push back against the Trump administration and prevent people

1:12:29 from being forced to leave the United States. Yeah, I think it's good. This is the way it

1:12:34 should be this is how it worked in the past and we got a bunch of democrat presidents administrations

1:12:40 and they made it way too easy this is how it used to be and you can get i think probably

1:12:47 for marriage you probably can get a parole i think is what they call it

1:12:52 um for some reason and then you can go back quickly and come back in but it's going to

1:12:59 It's going to help the system see who really should be here and who shouldn't be.

1:13:04 And H-1B is just, it's temporary.

1:13:07 In, out, gone.

1:13:09 None of this like, oh, well, you know, now I married this person and now I want a green card and I'll just stay here and I'll stay here forever until it's processed.

1:13:18 This is good.

1:13:20 Okay.

1:13:24 Let's talk about Tulsi Gabbard quitting.

1:13:27 Yeah.

1:13:29 Yeah, this is another one of those.

1:13:32 This is a very big disappointment.

1:13:33 For you?

1:13:35 I liked her.

1:13:36 Yeah, well, it's...

1:13:38 I thought she was good in the position.

1:13:39 She was...

1:13:40 Yeah.

1:13:40 She broke the thing about Obama being, you know, a horrible person.

1:13:45 Mm-hmm.

1:13:46 And nothing came of it.

1:13:47 Mm-hmm.

1:13:48 So here's the two clips I have NBC.

1:13:51 Tonight, as the president weighs resuming the U.S. war with Iran,

1:13:55 his top intelligence official says she is resigning.

1:13:58 Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, writing her husband, quote, has recently been diagnosed with an extremely rare form of bone cancer, saying, I must step away from public service to be by his side and fully support him through this battle.

1:14:12 The president posting that Gabbard has done an incredible job and we will miss her.

1:14:17 An Army veteran and former Democratic congresswoman, Gabbard broke with her party to endorse Trump in 2024.

1:14:24 I invite you to join me in doing all that we can to save our country and elect President Donald J. Trump well.

1:14:32 But as his director of national intelligence, Gabbard never fully made it into the president's inner circle,

1:14:37 clashing with administration officials, including the CIA director, and often absent at pivotal decision points.

1:14:44 For years, an outspoken opponent of American wars in the Middle East.

1:14:48 Going to war with Iran would make the war in Iraq and even Afghanistan look like a picnic.

1:14:55 Recently, Gabbard struggled to defend the president's attack on Iran.

1:14:59 Do you still believe that war with Iran would be so costly and devastating that it would make our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan look like a picnic?

1:15:06 Once again, in this role, it is essential that I do not allow any of my personal views on any issues to color or bias the intelligence reporting.

1:15:18 Yeah, it is a disappointment. I'm with you on that.

1:15:21 Part two.

1:15:23 A person familiar with the discussions telling NBC News that Gabbard's allies had pushed her to resign over the war with Iran, but she declined.

1:15:31 Earlier this year, the president was asked about his confidence in Gabbard.

1:15:35 I would say that I'm very strong in the fact that I don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

1:15:40 I think she's probably a little bit softer on that issue, but that's OK. Some people are.

1:15:44 Oh, so they're insinuating she was pushed out and this is the excuse?

1:15:47 Is that what's happening here?

1:15:48 That's what they're insinuating.

1:15:50 Most people aren't.

1:15:51 Garrett, all of this as President Trump says he's considering new strikes against Iran?

1:15:55 Well, Sam, he's given this weekend as a loose deadline for a potential resumption of airstrikes.

1:16:00 And we've just learned that not only will the president not attend his son's wedding,

1:16:03 but he's also canceled planned travel to his club in New Jersey

1:16:07 and will instead remain at the White House this weekend.

1:16:09 I see people on all sides of the political spectrum saying,

1:16:14 Oh, it's just an excuse. Like, you really that's that's really rude towards Tulsi Gabbard.

1:16:20 If she wanted to quit, I'm pretty sure she'd just quit.

1:16:23 Yeah, yeah, she's and she's not a bullshit artist.

1:16:28 Here's MS. Now, this is the let's see what they say.

1:16:31 I'm going to put you on the spot and and I apologize for that, David, but we just got this posting from Donald Trump on Truth Social, as was predicted by Jake Traylor.

1:16:42 And I'm going to read it in full, but it also talks about who's going to be taking over, at least in the interim, for Tulsi Gabbard, a guy named Aaron Lucas.

1:16:50 But let me read the posting. Unfortunately, after having done a great job, Tulsi Gabbard will be leaving the administration on June 30th.

1:16:59 Her wonderful husband. Stop it. Stop the clip. I got it. I got to go back on that.

1:17:04 A guy named Aaron Lucas. So you don't you don't refer.

1:17:09 just you normally would just say his name well what his position is well but the way to say a

1:17:15 guy named as if it's like it's like i don't know some guy named blah well they're gonna it's like

1:17:21 they're gonna follow up with who he is but it's beside the point it's a disrespectful way of

1:17:27 presenting it also you'll hear in this clip says she's she's going to be leaving june 30th

1:17:33 which is I guess that's a she has a transition period while she's helping her husband

1:17:40 so it wasn't immediate um I don't know she didn't walk out in a huff no she did not in full but it

1:17:48 also talks about who's going to be taking over at least in the interim um for Tulsi Gabbard a guy

1:17:53 named Aaron Lucas but let me read the post you're right that is funny unfortunately after having

1:18:00 done a great job. Tulsi Gabbard will be leaving the administration on June 30th. Her wonderful

1:18:05 husband, Abraham, has been recently diagnosed with a rare form of bone cancer and she rightfully

1:18:10 wants to be with him, bringing him back to good health as they currently fight a tough battle

1:18:15 together. I have no doubt he will soon be better than ever. Tulsi has done an incredible job and

1:18:20 we will miss her. Her highly respected principal deputy director of national intelligence, Aaron

1:18:25 And Lucas will serve as acting director of National Intelligence.

1:18:29 All right, let's find out who Aaron is.

1:18:31 I'm looking at his bio, but he's a seasoned intelligence professional, former CIA chief of station.

1:18:37 Do you know anything else about him?

1:18:39 Can you give us any more insights?

1:18:40 Yeah, he's a guy, and he's named Aaron.

1:18:43 Into this guy, Aaron Lucas?

1:18:44 She does it again, this guy.

1:18:46 She does it again, a guy.

1:18:47 What is the point?

1:18:48 What is the point of that?

1:18:49 Who is this guy?

1:18:50 Who is this guy?

1:18:51 This guy.

1:18:51 I'm looking now.

1:18:52 I mean, he was confirmed by the Senate in a sort of party line vote.

1:18:55 But there was, I think he is experienced, and I want to give him a chance.

1:19:01 I don't know him specifically in his background very well.

1:19:03 And I sort of agree with Mark here.

1:19:06 Do some work.

1:19:07 This is going to be John Ratcliffe.

1:19:09 So there'll be someone in that position.

1:19:13 But one of the problems is that another key person, the director of the National Counterintelligence Center, resigned because in opposition to the war with Iraq.

1:19:26 So you now have no Senate-confirmed director of national intelligence.

1:19:31 You'll have an acting in that position and the NCTC.

1:19:36 Wait, stop. Didn't he just a few seconds ago say that along, he used the term along party lines, they confirmed this guy Aaron?

1:19:46 Yeah, yeah.

1:19:47 Well, now is he saying there's no confirmed? What is he talking about? It's either confirmed or it's not.

1:19:54 No, no.

1:19:54 Along party lines.

1:19:56 But he's – let's listen again. Hold on.

1:19:58 With Iraq. So you now have no Senate-confirmed director of national intelligence.

1:20:05 You'll have an acting in that position, and the NCTC position is empty as well.

1:20:13 So it's not great to have Joe Kent had resigned from the position of national – the director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

1:20:21 That is underneath the ODNI. That's underneath Gabbard's old office. So this kind of vacancy and changes while the U.S. is at war, you know, is not great. And I want to reemphasize there should have been an intelligence assessment. How would Iran respond to being bombed? Would Iran try to seize control of the Strait of Hormuz? And I'm just saying this for viewers. And that has to be an incredibly factual, rigorous assessment.

1:20:49 Hold on, stop it again.

1:20:51 Who says there wasn't?

1:20:53 MS...

1:20:56 Who says there wasn't?

1:20:57 MS now.

1:20:58 These guys just make it up as they go along?

1:21:01 He doesn't know one way or the other.

1:21:03 Yeah, I'm pretty sure they make it up as they go along.

1:21:05 Yes.

1:21:06 In fact, I'm quite sure.

1:21:08 They're getting most of their news off of X like everybody else.

1:21:13 That's where...

1:21:16 I don't know how anyone can watch this crap.

1:21:19 well it's our job john no i'm saying the ms now is a deplorable operation politics or or you know

1:21:28 the wishes of the president frankly it's important for intelligence to speak truth to power because

1:21:35 there was a mistake in this war we didn't seem to anticipate that iran would close the strait

1:21:40 of hormuz and you know you've now had to know that he doesn't know that at all gone for no

1:21:46 He doesn't know that.

1:21:46 It's possible that we exactly what we wanted.

1:21:49 Yes.

1:21:49 Months in a global energy crisis.

1:21:51 So that's why having stability and nonpartisan people in these jobs is so important.

1:21:57 Yeah, but there's nonpartisan people in these jobs.

1:22:00 Nonpartisan, my ass.

1:22:01 Well, this is one of these guys who's, you know, he's a contributor.

1:22:07 So he wants to be contributing, wants to keep contributing.

1:22:09 So he's got to say things that they want to hear the contributor say.

1:22:13 I get it.

1:22:15 He's just doing his job.

1:22:16 I thought I had a Fox version of this story.

1:22:19 Let me listen.

1:22:20 Tony, I want to move to this because there's some big news that happened last night.

1:22:22 We learned that Tulsi Gabbard, DNI director, has put in her resignation.

1:22:28 And part of it is because or the reason she says she is resigning is her husband, Abraham, has come down with a rare form of bone cancer.

1:22:38 Those of us who know her and her husband, they are the most amazing people, are heartbroken over this.

1:22:45 And yet I want you to watch this montage of how the Democrats that don't super cuts now have reacted to this news.

1:22:54 This is the fourth woman to leave the administration in the past few months.

1:23:00 In terms of the impact on U.S. foreign policy, I think it's basically irrelevant.

1:23:03 She was entirely out of the loop on decision making.

1:23:07 This was because basically she's just not in sync with this administration.

1:23:12 This is why her initials, D&I, became Do Not Invite.

1:23:17 You know, probably one of the worst things that I've read.

1:23:20 Yeah.

1:23:23 No, I'm pretty sure that this is a real resignation for those reasons.

1:23:27 I think she was having a good time.

1:23:31 I think she actually...

1:23:33 Yeah, she seemed to be.

1:23:34 She was on a lot of podcasts, and she was yakking it up,

1:23:37 and she seemed competent, and she did the thing about Obama,

1:23:41 which nobody followed up on.

1:23:43 Yep.

1:23:43 And that was a big deal.

1:23:46 Yep.

1:23:46 So, I don't know.

1:23:49 Here is, just to remind everybody, this is what she did.

1:23:56 She did this years ago.

1:23:57 Declassified by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence yesterday

1:24:01 and released publicly just moments ago is an exchange of emails initiated by Michael S. Rogers,

1:24:08 the four-star admiral now retired.

1:24:10 Did you ever hear this?

1:24:11 I never really heard this one about.

1:24:13 We liked Rogers, Admiral Rogers, who was running the NSA.

1:24:16 Yeah, he was a good guy.

1:24:18 And he was the one that said, hey, this FBI guy is pulling all kinds of stuff up.

1:24:23 They're spying on you, dude.

1:24:24 They're spying on you, man.

1:24:26 But I never heard about this.

1:24:29 This is about the intelligence assessment, which is very bad for Clapper.

1:24:33 Who headed the National Security Agency in the second Obama term.

1:24:37 Rogers wrote to his boss, then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, in late December of 2016 to say that he, the Admiral, had just returned from overseas travel and had received an update on, quote,

1:24:49 our efforts to produce a joint product related to Russian attribution and intent for the DNC-DCCC hacks.

1:24:57 I know that this activity is on a fast track, Rogers wrote, to put together a product that can be provided to the President.

1:25:04 I asked my team if they'd had sufficient access to the underlying intelligence and sufficient time to review that intelligence.

1:25:10 On both points, Rogers said, my team raised concerns.

1:25:14 My folks aren't fully comfortable saying they've had enough time to review all of the intelligence to be absolutely confident in their assessments, he wrote.

1:25:22 I'm not saying that we disagree substantively, but I do want to make sure that when we are asked in the future whether we can absolutely stand behind the paper,

1:25:30 that we don't have any reason to hesitate because of the process.

1:25:34 if the intent is to create an integrated product rogers said that a cia fbi nsa jointly authored

1:25:40 that we can all defend we need a process that allows us all to be comfortable and i'm concerned

1:25:45 we are not there yet if nsa is intended to be a co-author of this product rogers said also i

1:25:52 personally expect to see even the most sensitive evidence related to the conclusion if your intent

1:25:57 is to create a CIA-only or CIA-FBI-authored product.

1:26:01 Then Rogers concluded, I will stand down on these concerns.

1:26:05 Had you ever heard about this, about this particular movement?

1:26:08 No, not at all.

1:26:08 There's a part two to this which really, really nails Clapper.

1:26:12 On that email, Admiral Rogers cc'd FBI Director James Comey, seen at screen left,

1:26:17 and CIA Director John Brennan, seen at screen right,

1:26:20 flanking the DNI, James Clapper seated in the middle

1:26:23 for their joint congressional testimony 10 months before this email

1:26:26 in February of 2016. Director Clapper took a little over 12 hours to reply to Admiral Rogers,

1:26:32 and when he did, he addressed Brennan and Comey as well, suggesting they too during those 12 hours

1:26:38 privately expressed views similar to those of Rogers. Clapper began, Mike, John, Jim,

1:26:43 understand your concern. It is essential that we, CIA, NSA, FBI, ODNI, be on the same page,

1:26:51 clapper wrote and we're all supportive of the report in the highest tradition of that's our

1:26:56 story and we're sticking to it quote unquote this evening clapper continued cia has provided

1:27:03 to the national intelligence council the complete draft generated by the ad hoc fusion cell we will

1:27:09 facilitate as much mutual transparency as possible as we complete the report but time clapper warned

1:27:15 is not negotiable we may have to compromise on our normal modalities since we must do this on

1:27:22 such a compressed timetable this clapper concluded is one project that has to be a team sport gym

1:27:28 this latest declassification by director tulsi gabbard's office comes after she referred these

1:27:35 matters to the justice department for additional investigation and attorney general pam bondy then

1:27:40 directed the impanelment of a federal grand jury in florida yeah clapper we always knew this guy

1:27:46 was the loser yeah he's he's the one that screws it all up and he did oh well you know we have

1:27:54 the timeline is important so we may have to you know go away from our regular modalities i.e

1:28:00 just write something up i think this is more smoking gun than people realize i think so too

1:28:06 But then I, you know, went over to Bondi.

1:28:09 That was the end of it.

1:28:10 Well, no, no, no.

1:28:11 No, Bondi referred it to, no, no, no, no.

1:28:14 I think DeGenoa is doing that stuff in Florida.

1:28:17 Isn't that DeGenoa?

1:28:18 Isn't he running that?

1:28:19 I think so.

1:28:21 What?

1:28:21 What?

1:28:23 Yes, DeGenoa and his wife.

1:28:24 Yes, yes.

1:28:26 What, the sealed indictments guy?

1:28:28 Yes, yes.

1:28:29 No, that guy's not even in the picture.

1:28:31 He is, he is.

1:28:33 Yes, he is.

1:28:34 DeGenoa.

1:28:35 Let me see.

1:28:36 Yes, yes.

1:28:37 I'm telling you.

1:28:40 Well, you can be telling me all you want.

1:28:42 I want some evidence.

1:28:44 Yeah, I'm looking.

1:28:44 I thought I had a clip about him.

1:28:46 Joe Degeneres.

1:28:49 I know Gorka's back in the picture.

1:28:51 What's he doing?

1:28:52 I don't know, but somebody mentioned he's part of the administration now doing something.

1:28:57 Sebastian Gorka.

1:29:00 Now I'm going to have, here, here, here, Clapper.

1:29:03 I'm telling you.

1:29:05 I'm telling you, it's Genoa and his wife.

1:29:08 You dreamed it.

1:29:08 You were having a vivid dream.

1:29:10 No, no, no, no.

1:29:12 Hold on a second.

1:29:12 Let's ask the Book of Knowledge.

1:29:15 That'll do it.

1:29:17 Let me see.

1:29:18 Where is...

1:29:21 Oh, man.

1:29:26 Here we go.

1:29:28 Where is his out?

1:29:31 Okay.

1:29:31 So, Book of Knowledge.

1:29:33 Yes, hopefully this will work.

1:29:34 Book of Knowledge.

1:29:35 Is Joe DiGenova involved in the grand jury in Florida about Russiagate?

1:29:42 It's a long, long, long search for the book of knowledge.

1:29:53 According to the book of knowledge, Joe DiGenova will oversee the Spygate probe in Florida

1:29:59 after the DOJ removed a deep state prosecutor

1:30:02 and is heading up a Florida-based federal investigation

1:30:06 into former federal officials who investigated Trump.

1:30:09 He assumes leadership of the ongoing grand jury probe based in Fort Pierce,

1:30:15 with the investigation being overseen by U.S. attorney Jason Redding Quinones

1:30:20 and using a grand jury run by Judge Eileen Cannon.

1:30:24 Thus, it has been written.

1:30:28 Told you.

1:30:29 oh that's gonna go nowhere then well that's a possibility but some for some reason they

1:30:38 brought him back in yeah to kill it well let's see we'll see we'll see okay i got two clips here

1:30:46 i want to i do have a clip blitz if we have time for it oh goodness let's do the uh newer ufo files

1:30:53 just released an NBC clip?

1:30:55 Yes, new, new, new.

1:30:56 You remember about this?

1:30:57 Tonight, newly released UFO files,

1:30:59 like this one in Kazakhstan,

1:31:00 a mysterious object lighting up the night sky.

1:31:03 Other videos showing pulsing balls of light

1:31:06 flying erratically and seeming to defy laws of physics.

1:31:09 Some even appearing to fly in formations.

1:31:12 Part of the Pentagon's release

1:31:13 of more than 50 declassified videos

1:31:15 and firsthand accounts

1:31:17 following President Trump's directive

1:31:18 to release government UFO files.

1:31:20 Very bright particles.

1:31:23 The files include audio of astronauts decades ago describing mysterious bright lights and particles.

1:31:29 That's literally from Gemini 7, which is like, you know, I don't know.

1:31:38 Was I even born when this came out?

1:31:41 This report from last year in an encounter that lasted over an hour.

1:31:45 A U.S. intelligence officer reported oval shaped orange orbs coming within 10 feet of a U.S.

1:31:51 helicopter, splitting in two and speeding away, leaving military and intelligence professionals

1:31:56 speechless. Other videos may have an explanation. Here, a U.S. F-16 fighter jet shoots down

1:32:02 an object over Michigan's Lake Huron in 2023, the same day the Pentagon said it shot down

1:32:07 a possible Chinese spy balloon over that lake. Experts tell us no video released so far proves

1:32:13 any...

1:32:14 Hold on, stop. The spy balloon wasn't shot down over Lake Huron. It was shot down over

1:32:19 the atlantic well there were two spy balloons weren't there i don't remember two all i remember

1:32:27 is the one that they let go floating all over the place it was a daily news item and then

1:32:32 once it got to the atlantic they shot it down with a missile with a million dollar missile

1:32:36 yeah i think there was another one that floated down and that's how they figured out it was from

1:32:42 china pretty sure there was i'm not convinced but it wasn't well hey don't make me consult the book

1:32:47 of knowledge. Object over Michigan's Lake Huron in 2023, the same day the Pentagon said it shot

1:32:53 down a possible Chinese spy balloon over that lake. Experts tell us no video release so far

1:32:58 proves any extraterrestrial visit. There's nothing in any of these that proves anything about alien

1:33:05 life. All it shows you is that there is stuff in the sky that initially can't be explained.

1:33:10 This was the Pentagon's second release of UFO files, and they're expected to roll out the next

1:33:15 one in the coming weeks yes i'm pretty sure that we are only what are we now two and a half weeks

1:33:21 away from steven spielberg's disclosure day yeah and then the releases will end after the movie

1:33:27 does its thing well yes it probably will i'll see if i had any uh no it's not important let's go

1:33:34 let's go to the next item which is the ebola update bbc yes yes this is uh interesting health

1:33:41 officials in the Democratic Republic of Congo say the current Ebola outbreak has resulted in more

1:33:46 than 200 deaths in three provinces. Earlier on Saturday, the government suspended all flights

1:33:52 to and from one of the epicenters, the northeastern city of Bunia. Thomas Nadi reports. It's unusual

1:33:59 for the DRC government to suspend flights during an Ebola outbreak. Previously, airline operators

1:34:06 have made this decision for themselves.

1:34:08 The Transport Ministry said the measure was to prevent any cross-border spread of the epidemic

1:34:13 and to guarantee the health and safety of passengers, crews and airport staff.

1:34:19 The Transport Ministry did not say it was banning humanitarian, medical or emergency flights,

1:34:25 but that these will be assessed and will require approval from health and aviation authorities.

1:34:30 The Democratic Republic of Congo's football team say they will not change their preparations

1:34:35 for next month's world cup despite being told to isolate by the united states because of the

1:34:41 ebola outbreak a white house official said the squad needed to remain in a bubble for 21 days

1:34:46 before traveling to the u.s i love the bubble but a congolese spokesperson said all the players were

1:34:50 based outside the drc and their plans remained the same well since you brought it up i've got

1:34:56 our scarf lady back again she's still in the news deborah burks uh the who rather says there are now

1:35:02 almost 750 suspected cases in the Congo, around the Congo, and nearly 200 deaths.

1:35:09 How does the severity of this situation compare to previous outbreaks?

1:35:13 Well, the problem with this particular outbreak is there was probably two, three or four cycles

1:35:20 of infection before it was even reported. And so a lot of the numbers you're seeing and the

1:35:25 rapid rise of the numbers is because it went undetected and underreported for probably three

1:35:31 or four weeks that resulted in a lot of case reporting all at once and so i can't really tell

1:35:37 you what the slope of new cases are which is really the important thing when you're following

1:35:42 an acute infectious disease but just to make it very clear to your audience the people we are

1:35:47 seeing today that are cases were probably infected two weeks ago and so i think that's what makes us

1:35:53 all concerned is we're looking at this at this virus and this outbreak with really old data now

1:36:00 I'm only playing her clips because she, for one, said something that was interesting and a little counterintuitive to the narrative.

1:36:07 And this is on CBS.

1:36:09 As you know, in the past year and a half, the Trump administration has largely dismantled USAID.

1:36:15 It has withdrawn.

1:36:16 Come on, Debra, blame it on Trump, blame it on Trump.

1:36:18 You know, I had this clip.

1:36:19 Well, you don't have it.

1:36:21 Blaming USAID for everything.

1:36:23 But wait.

1:36:24 From the World Health Organization.

1:36:26 It cut funding to the Congo and Uganda.

1:36:30 Do you think that those moves contributed to the delay in reporting this outbreak?

1:36:36 And are they contributing to the lack of supplies in dealing with the outbreak in the Congo?

1:36:42 Now, do you really have this clip or do you have a clip like?

1:36:46 No, I had it. I didn't have that exactly, but I had a clip where they're blaming USAID because obviously it's our job to keep the Congo from getting Ebola.

1:36:56 And it's our job to monitor the Congo and the Congolese themselves and everybody in Africa.

1:37:03 They got nothing to do with anything because they're too stupid.

1:37:06 So USAID has to be there and it's been gutted by Trump.

1:37:11 So this whole thing is Trump's fault.

1:37:13 That's what she's angling for, our Nancy Cordes.

1:37:16 But Birx has a different story.

1:37:19 Well, when I look what the administration has done recently,

1:37:23 I think they put 50, 100 million dollars out there immediately and sent people as part of the response.

1:37:28 I think the bigger question to me is a lot of us in the global community and the global community.

1:37:34 John, John, are you and I in the global community?

1:37:37 Well, it's possible. Sometimes maybe we we we touch on it and the global community is a lot of us in the global community invested extensively in creating the African CDC for this very reason, for this very response.

1:37:52 Hundreds of millions of dollars went into building laboratory capacity in the DRC at the African CDC.

1:37:58 And for some reason, that failed us.

1:38:01 And so what we need to do is figure out.

1:38:03 So we put hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars in the global community into the African CDC.

1:38:12 So we paid for it, our CDC in Africa.

1:38:14 And for some reason, it failed.

1:38:16 Aha.

1:38:17 Why didn't we detect this earlier?

1:38:20 Why didn't the institutions that we all stood up as a global community effectively control this outbreak early?

1:38:26 I think you guys are just there to spread disease. You're not actually there to combat it.

1:38:31 So that it didn't spread as far and wide as it has within the DRC.

1:38:35 I understand it's a conflict area, but we have to do better. We owe it to the people in the DRC.

1:38:41 And now listen to what she says about USAID. This, it completely destroys the narrative.

1:38:47 I hear what you're saying about the fact that the money is now flowing from the U.S. to the region.

1:38:52 But we talked to aid workers in the region as well who said that a lot of local programs were terminated after U.S. aid was dismantled.

1:39:01 Programs aimed at Ebola preparedness and response.

1:39:05 And so they just don't have the same capacity as they did before.

1:39:09 Hold on a second.

1:39:11 I think it's a great.

1:39:12 Is this CBS?

1:39:14 Yep.

1:39:16 So this is Ellison's crowd, and this is what's-her-name, Barry Weiss.

1:39:20 And they're on the side of, like, re-arming USAID and the scam that it is with the money laundering that goes on with that thing.

1:39:31 This is CBS.

1:39:32 Why does Nancy Cordes even have a job?

1:39:35 They are only doing what Israel tells them to do, John.

1:39:38 Don't you know that?

1:39:40 Because Larry Ellison, you know.

1:39:43 She talked about leading the witness.

1:39:44 But listen to the answer.

1:39:46 as they did before? I think it's a great question. And we need to really look at that. I know CDC's

1:39:53 global health security program was retained and a lot of that funding retained. I know we had people

1:39:59 in Kinshasa as part of the CDC. If you look at the Uganda funding now, I'm looking at it from

1:40:05 the HIV side, which really built a lot of the laboratory capacity. This year, they're getting

1:40:10 over 400 million dollars. So maybe there was a five percent cut. But I think the American people

1:40:15 were thinking that these programs had been slashed if you look at the mous the agreements

1:40:20 that the u.s government have been made i've actually been reassured by the numbers that

1:40:25 are there on paper ha gotcha thank you deborah burke's unexpected yeah that was good that's a

1:40:33 great i'm giving you a clip of the day for that i am going to accept it with uh with great honor

1:40:39 if I could find my clip of the day.

1:40:41 Yes.

1:40:41 With great honor.

1:40:42 Great honor is how to look for it.

1:40:45 Hold on, I found it.

1:40:47 There's the clip of the day.

1:40:48 Got a note from one of our producers,

1:40:50 Boots on the Ground,

1:40:51 says you guys recently mentioned a lawsuit

1:40:53 against an AI company

1:40:55 where a kid asked if it was okay

1:40:57 to mix Xanax with Kratom.

1:40:59 Yeah, that's a great note, by the way.

1:41:01 I am aware of this claim

1:41:03 because I'm in a couple of pro-Kratom groups.

1:41:05 Now, we have to say we have a producer

1:41:07 who makes Kratom drinks.

1:41:09 He has sent me these Kratom drinks.

1:41:11 I don't even know what Kratom is.

1:41:12 It's a plant.

1:41:13 The Indians chew this all the time.

1:41:15 It's Indians or American Indians?

1:41:18 No, Indians, Indians.

1:41:19 Indian in India?

1:41:20 India in India, yes.

1:41:22 Oh, okay.

1:41:23 It's like, okay.

1:41:24 And they extract the sap

1:41:26 and they do all kinds of stuff with it.

1:41:28 Yeah, they chew it.

1:41:29 And I remember our producer sent me

1:41:32 like 24 bottles

1:41:34 and the post office was all mad

1:41:36 because three of them exploded in the box.

1:41:38 It was a huge mess, huge mess.

1:41:40 But I drank one or two.

1:41:42 What does it do to you?

1:41:43 It gives you a little like minor body buzz, I guess.

1:41:47 Body buzz?

1:41:48 Yeah, a little body buzz.

1:41:50 But when we talk about this, this is years ago.

1:41:53 People were saying that they had been hooked on heroin.

1:41:55 They had all kinds of drug dependency issues.

1:41:59 And Kratom was, in fact, what was responsible for them getting off of that.

1:42:04 Oh, good.

1:42:05 And it's a natural product.

1:42:06 Now, there is a synthesized version, which is not what our producers are talking about.

1:42:12 But so this producer's in a lot of pro-Kratom groups.

1:42:15 I just recently noticed that this is the same case that led to Kratom being banned in Tennessee, where I sit at this very moment.

1:42:24 The part this AI lawsuit and the Tennessee ban both leave out is that the kid was, this is what the kids do, maybe it's a TikTok challenge.

1:42:36 The kids want to see the hat man, quote unquote, the hat man, by taking insane doses of Benadryl, an act that leads to hallucination.

1:42:48 So the implication here from our producers that it was the overdosing on Benadryl that made the kid kill himself, not the Kratom and not the Xanax.

1:43:00 But man, it sure it sure did contribute to that law being passed.

1:43:04 Covering the state capitol now, Tennessee passes a full ban on what's often referred to as gas station heroin after ongoing debate over the effects of Kratom.

1:43:15 Kratom is derived from a Southeast Asian plant, and supporters say when it's in its natural form,

1:43:20 Kratom can help curb opioid addiction and manage pain.

1:43:24 So it makes total sense that we would ban that plant because we can't get involved with the drug companies, now can we?

1:43:32 But Tennessee legislators sided with caution this week, aligning with advocates who say Kratom, in any form, can lead to addiction and even deadly overdoses.

1:43:43 Tennessee now joins eight other states in banning kratom entirely, even in its natural form.

1:43:49 And that's the problem.

1:43:51 So banning the natural plant.

1:43:53 Well, you got to read the end of the guy's note.

1:43:55 Well, that's all I had in mind.

1:43:58 What did you have at the end of his note?

1:44:00 The end of the note was he got a hold of the toxicology report on the kid.

1:44:05 I'm sorry.

1:44:06 Yes, he did.

1:44:07 He got a hold of the toxicology report.

1:44:08 Yeah, well, read that.

1:44:09 That's the best part.

1:44:10 I don't have that in my notes.

1:44:12 Oh, okay.

1:44:13 Well, I'll just tell you what it says.

1:44:14 Yeah.

1:44:15 He had four times the-

1:44:17 Four times the lethal dose of Benadryl in his system.

1:44:22 Yeah.

1:44:22 So I had almost everything except for the-

1:44:26 The punchline.

1:44:27 Well, precisely.

1:44:29 I hand back my clip of the day.

1:44:31 This bill addresses the growing public health and safety concerns surrounding kratom,

1:44:36 often marketed as a natural supplement, but natural does not mean safe.

1:44:42 The kratom plant has been used as an alternative to opioids, a way to wean addicts off heroin, and as a natural way to relieve pain.

1:44:50 But in recent years, kratom has been modified into a stronger synthetic form known as 7-hydroxy or 7-OH, often sold at gas stations and vape shops as a supplement or extract.

1:45:04 Experts say 7-OH is 13 more times potent than morphine.

1:45:09 Yeah, okay.

1:45:11 So, there's a synthetic version, which obviously is a problem.

1:45:14 But the plant itself, I mean, I think that should be investigated.

1:45:18 Where is RFK Jr.?

1:45:20 This should be investigated.

1:45:21 Because I've heard enough.

1:45:22 That guy's got enough problems.

1:45:24 I've heard nothing but positive things.

1:45:26 Nothing but positive things about Kratom.

1:45:28 The plant, not the vape shop, gas station heroin or whatever they're calling it.

1:45:34 Well, I've heard nothing at all.

1:45:38 Red 33, red 33, clip blitz, clip blitz.

1:45:41 All right, clip blitz, what are we doing?

1:45:43 Okay, let's start with voting rights and athletes.

1:45:47 The NAACP is urging black athletes who are being recruited by public universities and states weakening the power of black voters to not commit to going to those schools until those state governments restore fair congressional maps.

1:46:02 The civil rights group is targeting eight states in the South where major college football and basketball programs made up of mostly black players rake in big money.

1:46:10 The NAACP is also asking college athletes to elevate the issue and call on leaders to speak out against racial redistricting.

1:46:18 It's also urging alumni, donors and fans to withhold financial support.

1:46:22 Several Republican led states are racing to redraw congressional districts in an effort to flip seats, effectively diluting black voting power.

1:46:31 Yeah, that's going to work.

1:46:33 Screw the black athletes.

1:46:35 Steve Hilton head.

1:46:37 Steve Hilton head in the

1:46:40 Clip Blitz.

1:46:41 What is going

1:46:44 on with the Clip Blitz?

1:46:45 Steve Hilton.

1:46:47 There's a long lead-in to the Clip Blitz.

1:46:50 The NAACP is urging black

1:46:52 athletes who are being recruited by public...

1:46:54 No, that's not Hilton.

1:46:55 Where's Hilton head?

1:46:56 Hold on, hold on, stride again.

1:46:59 Hold on, don't move.

1:47:01 Republican commentator Steve Hilton and former Health Secretary Javier Becerra, a Democrat, continue to lead the primary for California governor.

1:47:09 KQED politics correspondent Guy Marzarati has more on a new survey from the state Democratic Party.

1:47:15 The poll finds Hilton leading the pack with the support of 22 percent of likely voters.

1:47:20 Becerra is in second with 21 percent, followed by investor Tom Steyer with 15 percent.

1:47:26 13 percent of voters remain undecided just two weeks before the June 2nd primary.

1:47:31 The survey could ease some Democrats' fears about two Republicans advancing to November under the state's top two primary.

1:47:39 It finds Hilton has opened a comfortable lead over Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco.

1:47:44 We've got to make it illegal. Make it illegal. That can't happen. We can't have that happen.

1:47:49 Red 33! Red 33! Clip blitz! Clip blitz!

1:47:52 All right, clip blitz!

1:47:53 A Lyft driver used AI photos.

1:47:55 To the index, a father from Boca Raton, Florida, claiming a Lyft driver used AI photos to falsely accuse his teen daughters of damaging his car, charging a $75 fee.

1:48:05 They sent the father photos, but at the bottom right, the Gemini logo.

1:48:09 Now, Gemini is Google's AI assistant that can generate false images.

1:48:13 Lyft has now apologized and blocked the driver from their app.

1:48:17 It's another No Agenda.

1:48:19 Clip Blitz!

1:48:20 Clip Blitz. Was that it?

1:48:22 That was a good one.

1:48:23 Elon Musk lawsuit.

1:48:24 Uh, hold on.

1:48:26 Elon Musk lawsuit.

1:48:28 Yes.

1:48:29 Welcome back.

1:48:29 This just in tonight, a jury has thrown out Elon Musk's massive lawsuit against OpenAI

1:48:35 and Sam Altman.

1:48:36 A federal jury found that Musk waited too long to sue.

1:48:39 He had accused Altman of illegally enriching himself off the company that must help start

1:48:44 with him.

1:48:45 Musk says he will appeal, saying the judge didn't rule on the merits of that case.

1:48:49 All right.

1:48:50 Now, can I play a couple of clips about AI stuff?

1:48:53 since you've led us here with your clip-blitz,

1:48:55 or is there more clip-blitz?

1:48:56 There's a couple more.

1:48:58 Ugh.

1:48:58 Well, can we...

1:49:00 Don't give me that.

1:49:01 Can we take...

1:49:02 Your clip-blitz is like three.

1:49:02 This one here, I want to play this one,

1:49:04 because this is a sad one.

1:49:05 Three clip-blitzes.

1:49:07 Oh, okay.

1:49:08 Sad one.

1:49:09 All right.

1:49:09 It's another No Agenda.

1:49:11 Clip-blitz!

1:49:12 All right.

1:49:13 CBS Radio signs off.

1:49:15 Yeah, that is...

1:49:16 Have you heard this?

1:49:17 Yeah, of course.

1:49:17 Before there was television,

1:49:19 long before there were podcasts,

1:49:21 CBS Radio basically invented broadcast news.

1:49:25 In big cities and remote farmhouses, families would gather around the radio

1:49:29 to hear President Roosevelt deliver a fireside chat.

1:49:32 Now we've got Mondami on Twitch.

1:49:34 Or Edward R. Murrow's eyewitness accounts of the Blitz.

1:49:37 This is London being bombed again.

1:49:41 Half an hour ago, I could read street signs and the flash of anti-aircraft batteries.

1:49:46 Little patches of sparks on the pavements marked the point where shrapnel fell.

1:49:51 Broadcast like that one brought the sound of the world into people's living rooms.

1:49:55 In the process, CBS Radio made the world a little smaller and listeners' vision a little broader.

1:50:01 Generations of talented wordsmiths polished their craft at CBS.

1:50:05 Before Charles Kuralt went on the road and Peggy Noonan penned speeches for presidents,

1:50:10 they got their start working overnights, pounding away at typewriters, painting vivid pictures for the ear.

1:50:15 CBS Radio is still carried on some 700 stations.

1:50:20 But fewer people are listening to the radio these days.

1:50:23 There are other ways to entertain yourself in the car now.

1:50:26 And young people have grown to expect more personalized programming from their smartphones.

1:50:30 CBS's parent company was sold to David Ellison's Skydance Media last year.

1:50:35 The new owners announced two months ago they were silencing the microphones and laying off the radio staff.

1:50:41 Christopher Cruz is set to deliver the final CBS radio newscast just after 11.30 Eastern time tonight.

1:50:48 Well, in an interesting twist, this was, there was a prophecy about this happening back in 1990.

1:50:57 And the prophecy is this, because if you listen, how does this start off?

1:51:02 This starts off by them saying.

1:51:04 Before there was television, long before there were podcasts.

1:51:07 Right. So our first house, the first house I bought in New Jersey in 1990, I bought from Dallas Townsend.

1:51:18 Does that name ring a bell to you?

1:51:20 It sounds familiar, but I can't place it at the moment.

1:51:24 He was the quintessential CBS radio news guy.

1:51:30 And when we bought the house, there was a big picture of Walter Cronkite above the fireplace.

1:51:36 Oh, God.

1:51:38 And so in an odd sort of way, that was the passing of the torch 10 years before podcasting came to be.

1:51:47 So that was, in fact, a prophecy.

1:51:50 How is it a prophecy?

1:51:52 Well, because I'm making it into one.

1:51:54 Hello.

1:51:55 Okay.

1:51:56 Hello.

1:51:57 I'm just making it up as they go along, John.

1:51:59 Yeah, you're just like the MS Now people.

1:52:02 Okay, I'm going to cut you off.

1:52:04 If you talk to me like that, I mean, you might as well just say I'm a horrible person.

1:52:09 All right, clip blitz.

1:52:13 Come on, clip blitz.

1:52:14 It's another No Agenda.

1:52:16 Okay, well, if you want to play one more, the Minnesota...

1:52:19 I don't really, but yeah, I'll do it.

1:52:21 Well, you don't have to.

1:52:22 No, now we've announced it. We did a Clipless jingle.

1:52:25 Well, then play this Minnesota...

1:52:28 It doesn't say... I don't have a Minnesota here.

1:52:31 Classic cars.

1:52:33 Classic cars.

1:52:34 Minnesota lawmakers want to ground your classic car five days a week.

1:52:39 Yeah, I saw this.

1:52:40 A new Minnesota bill could ban most weekday and nighttime driving for classic cars.

1:52:45 Now, this is kind of wild.

1:52:47 Of course, we enjoy seeing classic cars on the road.

1:52:50 It brings a smile to everyone's face, you'd think,

1:52:52 but that experience might be about to become even rarer in Minnesota

1:52:54 because the new law, if passed, would limit classic cars to driving

1:52:59 only on weekends or at special events.

1:53:02 Well, okay, I saw this story, and someone sent it to me.

1:53:06 It was like, they're getting classic cars off the road.

1:53:09 Hey, that's only because these people want cheap registration.

1:53:14 If you register your car as a car, you can drive it whenever you want.

1:53:19 Yeah, it's true.

1:53:20 It's kind of misleading.

1:53:21 It's kind of misleading, very misleading.

1:53:24 But at the same time, what is the point?

1:53:25 I mean, but this is now misleading maybe, but is this a foreboding?

1:53:31 Is this a prophecy perhaps that's going to start to move the older cars out

1:53:36 because they won't have computers that can track you?

1:53:39 Ah, through the data centers and the flock cameras and the license plate readers?

1:53:44 Hmm.

1:53:44 Absolutely.

1:53:46 Coincidence?

1:53:47 I think not.

1:53:49 I shall wind us up here with a few clips from CNBC.

1:53:54 I like CNBC because they kind of can't lie.

1:53:57 Well, they can.

1:54:00 They can, but...

1:54:02 It doesn't go over with the investors.

1:54:04 It doesn't go over well with their audience at all, however small it is.

1:54:08 This is about the AI IPOs.

1:54:12 And we're now starting to get some information, starting off with SpaceX's IPO.

1:54:18 And I thought it was a relatively intelligent conversation about getting out first, who's making money, who's doing what.

1:54:29 And for those of you who get value from the show by hearing us talk about things, maybe this is a value to you.

1:54:36 Last night, though, around dinnertime here in the Bay Area, the SpaceX prospectus dropped.

1:54:40 Dropped!

1:54:42 drop pick it up i remember when when we went public in 96 well it looks like think new ideas

1:54:51 have filed their s1 document now it's just looks like it dropped last night though around dinner

1:54:58 time here in the bay area the spacex prospectus dropped and it was a 308 page document that is

1:55:05 part rocket company part satellite empire part frontier ai lab all wrapped in a controlled

1:55:11 company structure with Elon Musk holding majority of the board. Now the AI segment, that is the part

1:55:16 that I want to dig into today because essentially all paths in that S1 lead back to AI. You're right,

1:55:23 this lady could be replaced by an AI agent going, let's do a deep dive. The financials have three

1:55:30 main sections, space, connectivity, and AI. The AI segment, it did $3.2 billion in revenue last year

1:55:37 on $6.4 billion of losses.

1:55:39 Now, the eye-popping number, though,

1:55:41 that was CapEx, as it often is these days.

1:55:44 Nearly $13 billion on AI infrastructure,

1:55:46 which is four times the revenue it is currently bringing in.

1:55:50 So if you are a bear, the math here in this last one,

1:55:54 it's pretty straightforward.

1:55:54 If it's a $2 trillion valuation,

1:55:57 as has been reported and speculated,

1:55:59 on $18 billion in total revenue last year,

1:56:02 you're looking at more than 100 times sales.

1:56:04 For context, NVIDIA trades at around 23 times.

1:56:07 Palantir, one of the most stretched names in the public market, around 88.

1:56:10 So SpaceX would be coming in higher than either of them.

1:56:14 And it's not actually profitable.

1:56:16 It is losing money.

1:56:17 Here's the other thing, though.

1:56:19 SpaceX has never been priced on traditional measures, and that is unlikely to change right now.

1:56:23 This is a growth bet on Elon Musk full stop.

1:56:26 And the same investors who bought SpaceX—

1:56:28 Did she say full stop in the middle of a sentence?

1:56:30 Yes.

1:56:31 But she never stopped.

1:56:32 No, that's bad form. I agree.

1:56:35 private rounds at $400, $500, $600 billion. They did it because of him. The retail demand on day

1:56:40 one, likely going to be enormous. And whatever you think of Musk's politics or pay package,

1:56:45 he has done something that no one else has, built category-defining companies not once or twice,

1:56:51 three times. So that bet on SpaceX, it also matters beyond this IPO itself because OpenAI

1:56:57 is reportedly planning a confidential filing as soon as this week. Anthropic may not be far behind.

1:57:03 Players in the infrastructure layer underneath,

1:57:05 all of them are watching Q

1:57:07 and trying to figure out their own windows.

1:57:08 What was the bell for?

1:57:09 It was, I just felt like that bell was needed.

1:57:14 So in this-

1:57:17 Anthropic's not far behind.

1:57:18 In this follow-

1:57:19 To all three of these things.

1:57:20 In this follow-up clip,

1:57:21 they're going to give you some insight

1:57:22 about the differences between the three.

1:57:24 I thought it was reasonably good.

1:57:27 I'm not sure it matters too much who goes first.

1:57:30 Okay, the No Agenda Show disagrees.

1:57:33 whoever goes first is gonna is gonna be the big winner everyone else we don't think that's a good

1:57:37 idea every so often there's something like this happens the first one goes and they did the big

1:57:41 winner then the next one goes and then something screwy happens and then it folds and the third

1:57:47 one gets nothing i'm not sure it matters too much uh who goes first it does matter it does

1:57:53 again i i think they're just so different uh in the in the models you know obviously

1:57:58 spacex is a is a really a bet on elon and and his vision open ai i i think is really a bet on

1:58:05 the consumerization of it of ai and i know open ai recently has started to move away from the

1:58:10 consumer model and more to enterprise but they they have their dna has been a consumer first

1:58:15 ai company anthropic from the beginning was hey we're an enterprise solution and so i think one

1:58:20 of the things to think about is where do investors believe that the future at least in the near term

1:58:26 near to medium term right the next two to five years where should they place their chips they

1:58:30 get placed on both but if you have to pick one do you pick on ai and consumers or do you pick on ai

1:58:35 uh and the enterprise and and that's in the in the private market that was the trade for venture

1:58:39 or the venture capitalists that believed in ai would be a consumer application first before

1:58:44 anything else bet on open ai and the ones that believed it was the enterprise uh bet on entropic

1:58:48 and i think now retail and you know the rest of us get to make that choice i'm going to give you

1:58:53 my opinion you just say blah blah blah well you should have cut him short then you should give

1:58:58 your opinion instead of listening to that what's your opinion i don't have an opinion exactly

1:59:04 as crazy as he seems i think elon musk is actually doing the smartest thing it may never come to be

1:59:12 his data centers in space i don't know but he's selling compute to anthropic i think he's giving

1:59:19 up on the on the llm business and grock will just be whatever it is for people to go hey grock take

1:59:26 a shirt off and uh hey grock remove the loser or hey grock remove the remove the jew they do this

1:59:33 all the time you've seen that no it's funny though they do this it's so horrible um i think i think

1:59:43 musk has the right idea be in the in the cheapest infrastructure business once you get those things

1:59:49 up in space using the sun and i don't know about anthropic and open ai but then my final clip will

1:59:55 be from jeff bezos who has a very different take on ai taking your job away so there are so many

2:00:02 smart people and they are smart and they are saying oh my god you know there's going to be

2:00:07 no more radiologists because you know ai can read x-rays better than a radiologist can and

2:00:14 they're going to be no more software engineers because ai can program better than a software

2:00:18 engineer again. These people are

2:00:20 wrong. So what's

2:00:22 really going to happen is that it's going to elevate

2:00:24 all of these people.

2:00:25 It's like you've been digging

2:00:28 let's say you're a software engineer.

2:00:29 The analogy I can give you is

2:00:32 you've been

2:00:33 digging out a basement

2:00:36 for your house with a

2:00:38 shovel and somebody's about

2:00:40 to hand you a bulldozer.

2:00:41 You should

2:00:44 be so happy. If you're

2:00:46 digging the basement to your house and somebody

2:00:48 It says, hey, how about this?

2:00:49 I have a tool here that's going to.

2:00:51 And what's really going to happen is we're going to have so much productivity in our economy that, for example, this is just one effect.

2:01:01 A lot of people who have two earner income households, one of the people is going to drop out of the workforce.

2:01:09 That's why we're going to have a labor shortage.

2:01:11 People, because of the productivity gains, you're going to be able to afford things.

2:01:16 We're going to have, I predict we'll actually have deflation of certain core.

2:01:20 Assuming we let this technology play out and don't hamstring it with regulation too early, we will actually have, you know, everything will get, food will get cheaper.

2:01:33 Whoa.

2:01:34 Now that's a different take.

2:01:36 I like it.

2:01:38 I like it too.

2:01:39 I think he's right.

2:01:40 I'm with you on that.

2:01:41 Food will get cheaper.

2:01:42 I'm surprised by that because you hated this AI thing.

2:01:46 Well, I hated the chat part of it.

2:01:49 Yes, I thought that was stupid.

2:01:50 I've been using AI for all kinds of things.

2:01:53 Coding.

2:01:54 That's true.

2:01:54 You're like an acolyte.

2:01:56 I don't know what that means.

2:01:59 That figures.

2:02:00 But if it's a prophecy.

2:02:01 But you're one of them.

2:02:02 But I want to wear that mantle.

2:02:04 And I also want to thank you for your courage.

2:02:08 Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in Cowabunga.

2:02:11 Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and the only, Mr. John Seedworth.

2:02:16 Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.

2:02:18 I think K is cowabunga spelled with a K.

2:02:21 I'm John.

2:02:21 No, it's not.

2:02:22 In the morning, all ships, sea boos on the ground,

2:02:23 feeding the air, subs in the water,

2:02:24 dams and ice out there.

2:02:25 It's definitely spelled with a C.

2:02:27 Let me count the trolls for a second.

2:02:28 Oh, that's interesting.

2:02:31 1602 on a Memorial Day weekend.

2:02:34 That's not too bad.

2:02:35 Oh, good.

2:02:36 Yeah, it's good.

2:02:36 Trolls are listening.

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2:03:09 It's a beautiful thing.

2:03:12 Moving up on 19 years in October of our podcast, we've been doing it value for value all of these years, and it's a very simple model.

2:03:23 Whenever you feel you got value out of this podcast, many of you have told me you do, then just send us whatever that's worth to you right back to us at noagendadonations.com.

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2:03:34 We appreciate the time and talent.

2:03:37 Many people help us in so many ways, giving us extra peanuts on the plane.

2:03:41 Thank you, Audra, giving us a boots on the ground on Kratom.

2:03:46 We have a lot.

2:03:47 In fact, if there's a secret sauce of the No Agenda show, it's the producers.

2:03:51 There is always someone somewhere who works in the field, is an expert, because they just happen to do that job.

2:03:58 And when you let us know, that's how we make everything much better for the program.

2:04:03 The producers, because we don't have listeners, the producers really are what make it all fly.

2:04:08 In addition to that, we have artists.

2:04:11 Well, we used to have artists.

2:04:12 I was talking about this the other day at the dinner table.

2:04:14 So we used to have a lot of artists.

2:04:16 Now we have prompters.

2:04:17 The artists are all gone.

2:04:19 I don't think we've had, well, Nestworks, I think, does kind of some art still.

2:04:24 Blue Acorn.

2:04:25 But have we had any of the old guards?

2:04:29 Nick the Rat is trying some AI stuff.

2:04:32 But I don't know.

2:04:33 We haven't quite gotten to that Bezos promise yet

2:04:39 that it's only going to be better for them.

2:04:41 How do you feel?

2:04:43 I like the art we get.

2:04:46 It's always been sketchy.

2:04:49 It's true.

2:04:50 Well, so what Nestworks is,

2:04:53 and Nestworks was the art that we chose for episode 1870 titled VBS.

2:04:58 Took a while to get that up on noagendashow.net,

2:05:01 but we finally got that figured out.

2:05:02 It was there, but it was the wrong number, and Void Zero and I are going to try and make that less of a problem when things go wrong.

2:05:10 But Neswork created this, and I think he did more of this by hand than by AI.

2:05:17 What do you think?

2:05:18 This Flamingo?

2:05:20 Well.

2:05:21 It had a different look, for sure.

2:05:23 It's hard to say.

2:05:26 I mean, it could have been all AI, or it could have been, you know, a cut-and-paste job.

2:05:31 I don't know.

2:05:32 Maybe he can tell us.

2:05:34 Yes, please, Nestworks, let us know.

2:05:36 Looking at noagendaartgenerator.com,

2:05:39 that's where Sir Paul Couture spends a lot of his time

2:05:42 making sure that we aren't spammed and we don't have, I don't know,

2:05:45 like inappropriate art flowing into the art generator,

2:05:50 which is very obvious for people who like to do that kind of stuff.

2:05:54 It is Memorial Day weekend,

2:05:56 so I would recommend that the artists give us Memorial Day-themed art.

2:06:00 I'm with you on that.

2:06:01 Not Cuba.

2:06:02 did we even talk about rubio and uh cubio cubio there you go cubio yeah you played you played a

2:06:10 bunch of stuff uh did i i don't remember not on cube but rubio yeah looking at uh the artwork that

2:06:18 we receive we had some screw lube uh art that we have babes are overrated you use the no agenda

2:06:25 podcasting vacation school for the newsletter that was nice oh yeah and there was babes just

2:06:30 lots of babes too many babes we're not gonna we're not gonna choose babes all the time and

2:06:35 it's not so funny to have women falling down manhole covers or manholes in new york we found

2:06:42 that kind of gruesome uh manhole because the lady died it wasn't that nice she died who fell down

2:06:52 the manhole yeah oh i don't know that yeah she burned up it was scalding hot it was a bad very

2:06:58 very bad day for her um no i don't think there was anything else we really liked was anything

2:07:04 that you recall that we discussed no the one i liked was the one we picked yeah that was it

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2:08:32 executive producers christian sutton jensen is in clovis new mexico comes in with one thousand

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2:08:52 that uh 26 26 i'm sorry and christian says it's time to become a red knight i need the biggest

2:09:01 dose of health karma you're legally allowed to give well we can determine that no problem

2:09:07 we have a governor on it but we can take it well we're on we're unscrewing that thing one month

2:09:13 ago my aunt was hospitalized with bacterial meningitis she's been awaiting a heart surgery

2:09:19 of her own after weeks of fighting infections and other horrible things things are stabilizing but

2:09:25 not improving i think a red knighthood is the appropriate move at this time i've struggled a

2:09:30 long time with my faith i don't know if it's appropriate or not but i asked my fellow producers

2:09:33 to keep my aunt in their prayers she is a beautiful and joyful woman and god knows her family needs

2:09:39 her in their lives on a lighter note i would like to be knighted as sir yes sir of the you know where

2:09:46 and he winds up with thank you for your courage so we're going to do uh some extra super stuff

2:09:51 for you and for your aunt here we go you've got karma you've got prayers

2:10:01 There you go.

2:10:06 Vincent James in Madison, Alabama, 103026.

2:10:11 No note.

2:10:12 He's going to have to send something in so we can hear what he has to say.

2:10:15 He will be a red knight today.

2:10:17 But since he's got no note, we'll give him a double up karma to stand by.

2:10:22 You've got karma.

2:10:25 On to Rio Rancho, New Mexico.

2:10:29 $1,000.

2:10:29 Catty Bones comes in.

2:10:31 It's a switcheroo for Jim, I might add.

2:10:34 And Catty Bones says,

2:10:35 Dear Adam and John,

2:10:36 My husband, Jim, and I have been listeners since 2014.

2:10:39 That's 12 years, I'd say.

2:10:42 I unfortunately lost him at the end of 2023 to a fall.

2:10:46 Oh, man.

2:10:47 My life is never and will never be the same without him.

2:10:50 We look forward to our No Agenda nights twice a week on Sundays.

2:10:54 We learn so much from your show, especially during COVID.

2:10:56 And thank you, she says.

2:10:58 I could fill pages with examples of what a wonderful husband and best friend he was,

2:11:03 but nobody has that much time.

2:11:04 So I'll just say that in all of our years together, we never had a fight.

2:11:08 I've been meaning to write in and make him a knight.

2:11:11 However, I never felt like it was the right moment.

2:11:13 It always made me sad thinking about the fact that he would be a posthumous knight.

2:11:17 But once I heard about the Order of the Heart,

2:11:19 I knew I had to make him a red knight, something special.

2:11:21 I would love it if you could de-douche him posthumously.

2:11:25 Well, of course you could.

2:11:27 You've been de-douched.

2:11:29 There are a couple of jingles that he really liked,

2:11:32 Climate Gate and Fear is Freedom,

2:11:34 and I would love it if you played them in honor of him.

2:11:36 For his night name, I would love it to be Sir J. Bones,

2:11:39 a nickname of mine for him.

2:11:41 Thank you.

2:11:41 I'm going to send the letter and donate soon so I can be his dame.

2:11:45 Thank you both for keeping me sane,

2:11:47 not just during that time that he was here with me,

2:11:50 but since then as well.

2:11:52 I tune into every show and try to imagine him next to me,

2:11:55 listening and laughing.

2:11:56 I'm sure he's up there listening and laughing and watching you.

2:11:58 Big thank you to you both and to Noah Jendenage

2:12:01 for helping to keep us all sane during this insane time.

2:12:04 Sincerely, J. Bones' loving wife, Caddy Bones.

2:12:07 To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.

2:12:13 Freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!

2:12:24 Those are the facts of this world, and you will all surrender to them, you pigs in human clothing.

2:12:31 Yeah, there you go.

2:12:33 Woo!

2:12:34 Classic, classic, classic, classic.

2:12:38 Onward with Aaron and Lopez in Santa Rosa, California, 1,000.

2:12:43 And he sent a note in, a physical note.

2:12:46 Hello, John and Adam, I'm a first-time donor.

2:12:49 I couldn't pass up the chance to become a Red Knight on my first donation.

2:12:52 I have been listening to the show since COVID

2:12:54 and felt the need to return the value in these trying times.

2:12:59 I'm entering my final year of college.

2:13:02 Wow.

2:13:03 I like this.

2:13:05 At Sonoma State.

2:13:06 And I would like some Jobs Karma, Pelosi Jobs Karma, the classic, of course,

2:13:11 as I search for an accounting internship.

2:13:14 Thanks for all that you do.

2:13:15 Please knight me as Sir Blue Wolf of the bean counter.

2:13:20 uh erin erin erin it's h-e erin on erin on erin on erin on lopez he's got a

2:13:32 pronunciation guide for his name but lopez is what we call him uh and i'm gonna deduce him

2:13:39 he didn't ask for it but uh first time donor you've been deduced jobs jobs jobs and jobs

2:13:50 let's vote for jobs karma and we drop straight from the executive producers in the thousands

2:13:58 down to our first associate executive producer chris dubendorf from brookville maryland uh 257

2:14:05 94 uh did not have a note but does have an american flag emoji so i'm going to say that

2:14:11 is likely for memorial day and i will still add a double up karma for you you've got

2:14:16 so we didn't have one normal executive producer yeah we did oh executive no well i mean

2:14:25 what do you mean normal we had 333 33 okay well that's a 333 we had four executive producers

2:14:33 no i'm saying normal okay uh dame melavation in colorado springs 250 she wrote an attached note

2:14:45 uh he's got kind of interesting handwriting dear jcd and ac here's some value this is probably a

2:14:53 250 donation for uh the 250 uh 250 years yeah yeah this was a promotion you put it in the

2:15:01 newsletter i remember yeah we got one i'm pretty sure chris was one as well and the fees were 794

2:15:10 just guessing. Okay. Celebrating 250 years of this great nation, you too will be

2:15:14 part of this country's history. I think so. After 20 years. By keeping our amygdala small,

2:15:22 it's good to hear John being back to his old self, but with a seemingly slightly softer edge.

2:15:27 My dad had triple bypass at the age of 52, and he's still around at 87. John,

2:15:35 you have 30 more good years left.

2:15:37 Please keep the best podcast in the universe going

2:15:41 until after J.D. or Marco are sworn in as number 48.

2:15:46 And he's got, oh, okay.

2:15:51 Thank you for all that you do for all the producers

2:15:53 and the many blessings on everyone.

2:15:55 Peace and joy, Dame Elevation, Melanie Dries.

2:16:00 Oh, very nice, Dame Elevation.

2:16:02 Thank you for celebrating our country with us.

2:16:04 matthew benjamin clark summit pennsylvania and he says dear adam and john uh oops sorry hold on a

2:16:13 second dear adam and john in my quest to one day make a living as an author oh well you talk to

2:16:20 john that's the right guy to talk about i've recently transitioned to the value for value

2:16:24 model for the distribution of my books how about that so this donation is a thank you for a great

2:16:30 show and for giving me hope that the

2:16:32 V4V model can work for me.

2:16:34 And for anyone in Gitmo Nation that's looking

2:16:36 for a good read, visit

2:16:37 mattbrights.com

2:16:40 M-A-T-T-B

2:16:41 W-R-I-T-E-S

2:16:43 mattbrights.com. I've got something for

2:16:46 everyone, and it's all free! No,

2:16:48 no, no. See, this is not

2:16:50 how you do the Value for Value model.

2:16:52 I'm going to just help you right there.

2:16:54 And as an added thank you,

2:16:56 any donations I receive in the next month

2:16:58 will be split with the No Agenda show.

2:17:00 Adam, if you can find it,

2:17:02 I'd love to hear the Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi jingle

2:17:06 and I'd love to have some prayers.

2:17:08 Well, you're lucky I actually found

2:17:10 the Abu al-Baghdadi jingle.

2:17:13 But John, could you please explain to him

2:17:16 how the Value for Value model works for books?

2:17:18 Because you have done this with Mimi and TooManyEggs.com.

2:17:21 Yeah, you have the book available as a PDF

2:17:24 that it's it's free with the idea that the book will be downloaded and someone will end up buying

2:17:33 a printed version um and the idea is that you want to you want to sell or or they download it

2:17:43 and give you what they think it's worth in the value for value method but i mean using the word

2:17:48 free has got to be minimized.

2:17:50 Yeah, got to go. That has to go.

2:17:52 But did it work well for the

2:17:54 TooManyEggs.com books?

2:17:55 I think it worked well, yeah.

2:17:57 But we saw a lot of books. I mean, the idea

2:18:01 of the, it was a little different

2:18:02 with the Too Many Eggs, so we have a

2:18:04 commercial version of the book which is

2:18:06 printed, and that's not done

2:18:08 value for value. Got it.

2:18:10 Here we go. And that goal is

2:18:12 to push people in that direction.

2:18:18 I hadn't heard this in a long time.

2:18:37 There it is.

2:18:48 You've got to learn prayers.

2:18:50 Thanks for requesting that.

2:18:56 Hadn't heard that in a long time.

2:18:57 That was what the died like a dog refers to.

2:19:02 Dogs die normally.

2:19:03 Yeah, well.

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2:19:57 in the universe thank you for your courage go podcasting we actually haven't done a go podcasting

2:20:03 in a while have we where's my go podcasting i don't know where it is go podcasting i've lost

2:20:11 my go podcasting wait is it here nope i don't know where it is sorry go podcasting eli the

2:20:20 coffee guy he always comes with 200 and adds the day's date so it's 205 24 he is from bensonville

2:20:26 illinois and he says more fear mongering on ebola and hanta virus actually i think the hanta is over

2:20:33 uh hanta has been pushed to the back seat it better be it's all ebola both have been lingering

2:20:40 in the headlines a little too long, but I guess

2:20:42 Scott... Hey, by the way, can you play

2:20:44 the Ebola jingle at the end

2:20:46 of this read?

2:20:48 Ebola. We haven't

2:20:50 heard that at all during the entire

2:20:52 Ebola crisis. Ebola.

2:20:54 Yes, that's a good idea.

2:20:56 Thank you for reminding me.

2:20:57 But I guess Scott Gottlieb and the rest

2:21:00 of his talking heads need something to do.

2:21:02 Good coffee is a health

2:21:04 elixir. Did you know that?

2:21:06 I've been reliably told it cures

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2:21:13 So visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order.

2:21:19 And as always, stay caffeinated.

2:21:21 Eli, the coffee guy.

2:21:22 Ebola.

2:21:24 Thanks for reminding me.

2:21:27 I'll have to bring those back if this nonsense keeps up.

2:21:30 It will for a while.

2:21:32 Ben Sterling in College Station, Texas.

2:21:35 Ah, Ben.

2:21:35 Do name Ben.

2:21:36 200.

2:21:36 Good old Ben.

2:21:37 Yep.

2:21:38 This donation should bring me to Viscount.

2:21:41 Wow.

2:21:41 Please give me jobs, Karma, as I just interviewed for my boss's job.

2:21:45 And being a VP for a Fortune 250 company before 40 would be cool.

2:21:50 Ask anyone.

2:21:52 Also, everyone should give a listen to Just Two Good Old Boys podcast with Sir Gene and I.

2:22:00 Baron soon-to-be Viscount dude named Ben, defender of megawatts, protector of the electric grid.

2:22:07 Sincerely, Ben Sterling.

2:22:10 Yes, Ben gives us a lot of good information

2:22:12 about what's really happening in the electric grids.

2:22:14 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

2:22:18 Let's vote for jobs.

2:22:19 And coming in as she always does with $200,

2:22:25 it is Linda Lupakin from Castle Rock, Colorado.

2:22:27 And she wants jobs karma and says,

2:22:29 your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression

2:22:32 and most don't.

2:22:35 For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com.

2:22:39 Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership, results, and impact.

2:22:44 That's, you know, maybe Ben, maybe you should talk to Linda for getting that VP gig.

2:22:49 She helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership, results, and impact.

2:22:55 That's ImageMakersInc with a K.

2:22:57 And Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.

2:23:00 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

2:23:04 Let's vote for jobs.

2:23:06 You thought I might.

2:23:08 And we continue with the rest of our supporters in the time, talent, and treasure,

2:23:13 treasure portion, that is, of our Value for Value model.

2:23:16 We have, and we'll have a meetup in a moment.

2:23:18 Actually, first we have Sir Ever of the what?

2:23:20 Linwood, Michigan, 123.45.

2:23:24 We love it when you do that.

2:23:25 And here's the IndyNo Agenda meetup, which will be a switcheroo.

2:23:29 It's a row of sticks, 111 and 11 cents.

2:23:34 This just took place.

2:23:35 I've got a nice meetup coming up for you.

2:23:37 Indie No Agenda Meetup Raffle Switcheroo.

2:23:39 It's a donation for Sir Ripoff the Maple.

2:23:42 Donation value for value from one of the best monthly meetups out there.

2:23:46 Congratulations to Sir Ripoff of the Maple for winning the money donation raffle.

2:23:52 Draw and to newbie attendee Tony for runner-up prize,

2:23:56 a bottle of JCD Costco Recommended Cabernet.

2:23:59 Hey, I mean, this is fantastic.

2:24:03 Which Cabernet was that?

2:24:05 Was that the Kirkland?

2:24:06 I believe so.

2:24:08 Newbies always win at the IndyNA meetups.

2:24:10 Pro audio meetup report by the amazing Annette Loveslit,

2:24:14 Eminem of the Greenwood,

2:24:15 Dame Marie of the Greek Kingdoms,

2:24:16 Sir Mark of the Greenwood,

2:24:17 Warden of the Crossroads.

2:24:19 Thank you so much.

2:24:20 Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada, $105.24.

2:24:23 She says we're the best.

2:24:25 Thank you.

2:24:25 Dame Early Turtle, Topeka, Kansas, $103.33.

2:24:31 Shauna Norberg, Bellingham, Washington, $100, love you, mean it.

2:24:34 Kevin McLaughlin, he is the Archduke of Luna, lover of America, and boobs, Concord, North Carolina,

2:24:39 with his boob donation every single show, $80.08.

2:24:43 God bless America and melons.

2:24:45 Sir Edward the Henpecked, Omaha, Nebraska, $65.23.

2:24:49 It's a birthday donation for his loving wife on May 23rd.

2:24:52 It was yesterday to celebrate our winning anniversary, May 24th, which is today.

2:24:56 She loves to torment me, but I don't know what I'd do without her, Sir Edward the Henpecked.

2:25:01 Berencer Phenom, Appleton, Wisconsin, $60.08.

2:25:05 That's something that's lopsided, I guess.

2:25:08 Matthew Elwart, Weatherford, Texas, with small boobs, $60.06.

2:25:13 Same from Les Tarkowski, and he's in Kingman, Arizona.

2:25:16 Dame Nancy of the Confused, San Bruno, California, $52.44.

2:25:20 She says, thank you for working on the holiday weekend.

2:25:23 That, I'm saying thank you for noticing. It's true.

2:25:27 Cole Dial, Alma, Illinois, 5250s, 5225.

2:25:31 We see the palindrome there.

2:25:33 And here are the 50s, just a couple of them.

2:25:35 Alexander Delgado, Aptos, California, with the 50.

2:25:38 Baron of the Belmont from Belmont, North Carolina.

2:25:41 He's the Baron of Belmont and the Catawba River Basin.

2:25:46 And finally, Michael Myers of Diamond Head, Missouri, wrapping up our Value for Value supporters for episode 1871.

2:25:57 I would be amiss if I didn't thank once again our executive and associate executive producers.

2:26:03 Our formula is this.

2:26:04 We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

2:26:16 that's right no agenda donations.com that is where what happened to

2:26:25 hmm oh goodness cover for me for a second john somehow i missed the uh the indie meetup which

2:26:33 is a real problem if i don't have the indie meetup cover for me what do you mean you don't

2:26:37 have the tape exactly i don't have the tape hold on hold on you could you cover in a better way

2:26:47 perhaps i mean you don't like sound effects well i mean you could say something like you know i

2:26:52 could talk i could read from the granola package oh man you are okay well let me take a how about

2:27:00 covering with a clip no we're already done i'm good no that took no time

2:27:06 you're the worst thank you yeah i try thank you everybody for supporting us noagendadonations.com

2:27:13 that's where you go to send back the value that you receive from the show and you can even set

2:27:18 up a recurring donation if you feel so moved any amount any frequency noagendadonations.com

2:27:23 It's your birthday, birthday

2:27:26 Oh, don't watch it

2:27:28 Was a real big lead up to the entire birthday list, which consists of one birthday.

2:27:33 You heard him earlier.

2:27:34 Sir Edward the Henpecked wishes his wife a very happy birthday.

2:27:38 She celebrated on the 23rd.

2:27:40 And today they celebrate their wedding anniversary, and they never had a fight.

2:27:44 Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:27:47 It's your birthday, yeah

2:27:49 And here we go.

2:27:53 I'm out of control.

2:27:55 Our title change today is one.

2:28:04 It is Sir Ben Sterling, who started out as a baron before this podcast.

2:28:10 And, yes, I should remind you to go listen to Just Two Good Old Boys,

2:28:14 that podcast he does with Sir Gene.

2:28:17 And today, he ups his appearance to the title of Viscount.

2:28:21 And we congratulate him with that and say thank you very much for your courage.

2:28:24 Behold the order of the heart.

2:28:28 Pure of purpose, bright from the stars in the morning.

2:28:33 Brave and smart, the order of the heart.

2:28:37 Yes, these are limited titles.

2:28:41 They're going fast, so get in while you can.

2:28:45 the knighthood that comes accompanied, or an instant-night donation,

2:28:49 with a Red Knight Order of the Heart pin.

2:28:52 It's a very handsome pin. You'll like it.

2:28:54 And it goes to Christian Sutton Jensen, Vincent James, Sir Jim, Sir J. Bones,

2:29:00 and Hernán López.

2:29:03 And we congratulate these brand-new Red Knights,

2:29:06 who now officially are part of the Order of the Heart.

2:29:10 Behold the Order of the Heart!

2:29:15 Pure of purpose, right from the start

2:29:18 In the morning, brave and smart

2:29:21 The order of the heart

2:29:23 All right, we have two knights to bring into the round table today,

2:29:30 so if you can grab your blade there and move it around the cable.

2:29:32 Here you go.

2:29:33 Oh, yeah, very well done.

2:29:34 You didn't even hear the mic bump at all.

2:29:36 Kristen Sutton, Jensen, and Jim, step up on the podium here.

2:29:39 Both of you become knights of the Noah Jenner round table.

2:29:43 It's a very exclusive club, but $1,000 or more in aggregate gets you there.

2:29:47 And I'm very proud to pronounce the Kate V as Sir Yes Sir of the You-Know-Where and Sir J-Bones.

2:29:54 Both of you now become knights of the Noah Jenner Roundtable.

2:29:57 You join the knights and the dames.

2:29:59 And for you, we have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay.

2:30:02 We've got harlots and haldol.

2:30:04 We've got redheads and ryes, beer and blunts.

2:30:07 Ruben and rosé, geysers and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong and some bourbon, sparkling cider and escort.

2:30:12 Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Press Milk and Pablum.

2:30:14 And as always at the table, we've got your mutton and your mead.

2:30:18 Both of you can go to noagendaringes.com.

2:30:21 They are very handsome.

2:30:22 And all you have to do is give us your ring size.

2:30:25 There's a ring sizing guide on the website.

2:30:27 And we will send it off to you as soon as possible.

2:30:30 Give us an address, obviously.

2:30:32 And congratulations.

2:30:33 Welcome to that exclusive club of the No Agenda Knights and Dames.

2:30:37 yeah we had uh man we had two meetups here in uh in uh in tennessee uh sir patrick coble

2:30:52 uh and pastor jimmy and i had a little mini meetup uh at uh arnold's which is a very cool

2:30:59 old school barbecue uh in the middle of nashville maybe the last time we'll ever eat there because

2:31:05 the taxes are so high they may have to close it down but meetups take place all over the world

2:31:11 literally and you can find a meetup near you by going to no agenda meetups.com people it's no

2:31:17 cost you know you just find a place you all agree you're going to meet there you hang out you have

2:31:20 a couple drinks you talk about the world talk about the show talk about what's going on hit

2:31:25 people in the mouth and sometimes you send us a meetup report here's the latest one number 75

2:31:31 from leo bravo and this is the meetup in los angeles at proud bird hey everybody it's leo

2:31:38 bravo at meetup number 75 at the proud bird i'm gonna pass the phone around my friends have things

2:31:42 to say hey john and adam sir leah kim faux pop here just here at the proud bird mourning the

2:31:49 death of spirit airlines not really sir robertson of two sticks enjoying the plane spotting and the

2:31:57 great company thank you leo bravo hey great meetup you guys got here it's proud bird just

2:32:03 doing a little bit of plain spot and enjoying some company some great folks long live the

2:32:08 constitution hey this is eric just reminding you trains are better than planes trains good

2:32:13 planes bad i'm interested in the story of the woman who was plunging into a searing manhole

2:32:19 i think that anything happens between two consenting adults should stay that way it

2:32:23 You should not have made the news.

2:32:24 Oh, man.

2:32:24 Horrible.

2:32:25 This is Angie from the ranch over here at the Proud Bird

2:32:27 hanging out with Leo Bravo.

2:32:28 In the morning.

2:32:29 In the morning!

2:32:30 See, that's what I'm talking about.

2:32:32 You bring in your server.

2:32:34 That makes the whole meetup report perfect.

2:32:36 And I'm sure Daymonette did the same at the Indy meetup for May.

2:32:40 Hello, this is Day Maria.

2:32:42 And Sir Mark.

2:32:43 We have a small meetup today, but it is amazing as always.

2:32:47 Come on, come on.

2:32:48 Next month.

2:32:48 Hey, this is Emily, your shufflecraft spook.

2:32:50 Insert something fun here.

2:32:52 Brewski here, just enjoying some beers with the bald bros.

2:32:56 Syrup of the Maple here in Indianapolis, attending my monthly Ambigna Size Regulation Beat-Up.

2:33:02 My name is Toni. I'm from Louisville, Kentucky. I'm honestly too shy to be here and too gay.

2:33:09 This is Katie from St. Joseph Public House and Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana, serving up the No Agenda Group.

2:33:16 Live from Indianapolis, the home of the greatest spectacle in racing.

2:33:20 You notice how the servers over there at the brew house in Indianapolis, they really get into it.

2:33:31 I think they have their own contest who can sound the coolest on the meter per port.

2:33:35 Good job.

2:33:36 I appreciate it.

2:33:37 There's a meetup taking place today in New Jersey, Keyport, New Jersey, to be exact.

2:33:42 The We Drink and We Know Things is probably underway as we speak.

2:33:46 The I Need a Drink edition at 3BR Distillery.

2:33:50 also starting today and just a bit from now, the No ID Pop-Up,

2:33:54 that'll be at the Alibi Room in Vancouver, British Columbia, in Scandinavia.

2:33:58 Memorial Day, that is tomorrow, the Monday Madness in Squim,

2:34:03 333 Pacific at Bar Hop Brewing in Squim.

2:34:06 If you want to know about Value for Value Book Publishing, go talk to Mimi, she will be there.

2:34:10 I'm sure she'll be bringing some of her TooManyEggs.com books.

2:34:15 And then coming up on the 30th, Anchorage, Alaska, we have Ukraine,

2:34:20 excuse me on the 6th of june bila turska kiev oblast boise idaho on the 13th franklin tennessee

2:34:28 on the 13th indianapolis indiana again on june 14th charlotte north carolina on the 18th june 26th

2:34:35 rotterdam in the netherlands july 11th eagle idaho and then we're into august september october you

2:34:40 can find all of these listed at no agenda meetups.com please consider going to one of these

2:34:46 you will not regret it i've never heard anyone say i went to a meetup and it sucked even if there

2:34:50 was one person one other person there people always seem to enjoy it enjoy it so go find one

2:34:55 near you noagentameetups.com if you feel moved to start one yourself that's really easy just set it

2:35:03 up listen at noagentameetups.com and watch the fun happen what could possibly go wrong it's always a

2:35:09 party sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days you want to be where you won't

2:35:18 be triggered or hell's blame you want to be where everybody feels the same it's like a party i feel

2:35:29 really bad about this but uh amidst the hard drive issues i completely did not get my isos

2:35:40 So you win.

2:35:41 It's just a matter of choosing which one.

2:35:45 Which one would you like me to play first?

2:35:48 Well, I've gone with all celebrities this show.

2:35:50 Oh, nice.

2:35:51 So let's start with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Screw.

2:35:55 Screw your other podcasts.

2:35:57 This is the best.

2:35:58 That's a good one.

2:36:01 I like that.

2:36:02 Very good.

2:36:02 And who was the other celebrity?

2:36:05 The other one is Hillary Clinton.

2:36:07 Wow.

2:36:08 the no agenda podcast is too delicious to believe my friend wow this is a first of all where'd you

2:36:15 get these i did them you called up arnold and you called up hillary and hey arnold can you give me a

2:36:22 quickie here i i honestly think arnold is the better one screw your other podcasts this is the

2:36:27 best okay fine that may ever be an evergreen that is so good hey everybody right now it's time for

2:36:35 john's tip of the day great advice for you and me just the tip with jcd and sometimes adam

2:36:44 okay since i'm a heart patient i have to have no salt in my diet basically for for the next

2:36:54 year or two that's horrible probably forever yeah and so i've had to come up with ways of

2:36:59 seasoning food that you know and other people need to go and lower salt they need to know these

2:37:05 things and so i found a couple of products which i think are quite this is quite good

2:37:10 very good tip for people who can't now why can't you have salt what is the reason what does salt

2:37:17 it changes your electrolytic balance and how is that bad for your heart it makes your heart go

2:37:22 into irregular heartbeats oh okay that wouldn't be good no no so um that's one of many things

2:37:30 it's also harder in the kidneys it has all kinds of issues okay now i had a goya a season though

2:37:39 total or whatever picked some time ago but i'm gonna bump that and and go with badia complete

2:37:49 no added salt this is the badia seasoning from the mexican uh food provider uh it's a seasoning

2:37:58 by by the biggest container of it that you can find usually in a mexican store and it uh actually

2:38:05 brennan has said that it's it saved my palate is using this stuff on everything it is a terrific

2:38:12 uh all-purpose seasoning what does it taste like well if you smell it you can smell all kinds of

2:38:19 stuff in it it's got garlic and onion it's got the basic things that it's also kosher

2:38:24 for people who worry about that well our our our jew money people will be happy yeah it's kosher

2:38:31 and it's uh it's just a terrific garlicky oniony cinnamon it's got all kinds of stuff in it it's

2:38:39 just a it's a it's an all-purpose seasoning you dump it on everything and and use it generously

2:38:46 have you considered msg msg is sodium oh it is oh that's right of course it's

2:38:54 multi-multi-glomonate sodium glomonacademy yeah what is it again what is msg again

2:39:02 monosodium glutamate that's what it is okay give me the name of this product again because i may

2:39:08 have to try that. It sounds good. Oh, you'll love this

2:39:10 stuff. It's Badia, B-A-D-I-A.

2:39:12 Badia.

2:39:13 Saison

2:39:16 Completa.

2:39:18 And it just says complete

2:39:20 seasoning. And

2:39:22 when you go to a

2:39:24 Mexican Mercado

2:39:26 or Super Mercado, they

2:39:28 will have the big giant

2:39:29 containers of it. Ask for it by name at

2:39:32 your local Mercado.

2:39:33 Yeah, it's great. I might

2:39:36 try that. It sounds good. Hey, this is just

2:39:38 one of the many Tips of the Day you can find at

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2:39:42 Great advice for you and me

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2:39:51 Well, there we go. Perfect timing because I

2:39:54 need to get my

2:39:55 fancy suit on for the big

2:39:58 K-Love Awards tonight at the

2:40:00 Grand Ole Opry. You're going to be presenting?

2:40:02 You know, they have podcast

2:40:04 awards and they've never asked me,

2:40:06 never even considered to have me

2:40:07 present, and this is my third year

2:40:10 I've been there, so no, I will not be.

2:40:12 I'll just be in the audience.

2:40:13 You'll just be a schmuck in the audience?

2:40:15 Well, I'm with the most... Do you get a go-bag?

2:40:18 There's no

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2:40:22 What? No.

2:40:23 But we will worship God.

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2:40:27 Lots of Jesus. That's cheap.

2:40:30 Okay.

2:40:33 I think it

2:40:36 airs on tbn next week or something so i could actually tell you the winners on thursday but

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