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0:00 That's a lot of cows, brother. Adam Curry. It's Thursday, 08/27/2026.

0:05 This is your award winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode eighteen ninety eight.

0:10 This is No Agenda.

0:12 In the morning, Gitmo Nation. This is No Agenda episode eighteen ninety eight with a special guest here today. Yes. Part of the ongoing Curry and Friends episodes.

0:22 We'll be speaking to him in just a moment. I'm gonna give you his name, then you're gonna listen to a little bit of Just Baker to get into the mood. Go ahead and Google him, Matt Long.

1:16 Keep the hate coming.

1:18 Best podcast in the universe.

1:22 You just proven the point

1:24 in the morning.

1:56 Can't

2:00 help myself.

2:02 I

2:03 don't even like hip hop.

2:06 Thank you, Just Baker. In the morning, everybody. And we say a big in the morning too.

2:12 My friend, you not even on the other end, right on the other side of the desk, which is brand new for me. Never has No Agenda been hosted by two people in the same room at the same time. Matt Long, in the morning to you, my friend. In the morning to you. And I'm telling you what, this is a real honor to be in here and, I have to tell the producers

2:31 that, don't ask me about the what the studio looks like. Adam made me sign an NDA

2:37 I came And

2:38 so you you could torture me, but

2:42 I'm not I'm not giving any details out. So,

2:45 Matt, I'm trying to I I gotta

2:48 give a little description of Matt who we only met a few years ago.

2:53 Matt is

2:55 let's see how you take this, Matt. Part Willie Nelson,

2:57 part Hulk Hogan,

2:59 activist,

3:00 constitutionalist,

3:01 brother in Christ. He and his wife Gail have organized

3:05 every No Agenda Fredericksburg meetup as far as I know.

3:08 And,

3:09 man, it is so good to have you here. Matt has a radio show every single day,

3:14 the Matt Long Show. It's also a podcast.

3:17 And where did we did we meet at church? Is that where we met the first time, Matt? Yeah. We did. We met at Bridge Church. I'm nearly that I can't imagine anywhere else because I don't go anywhere else but the church and That's the radio

3:30 right. And and I've been on your radio show a couple times.

3:34 It's on the Hill Country Patriot FM Mhmm. Which is it's it's one of those classic American

3:40 small town radio stations. I mean, does it it reaches Kerrville,

3:44 Fredericksburg.

3:45 Is that kind of it? Gillespie Yeah. Kingold County? Figure,

3:48 cut, draw a circle around Kerrville about 60 miles Yeah. And it covers that area. We have five stations, but it's all it's owned by a couple, a sweet little couple that owns all five stations and it really is

4:02 a,

4:03 what's the best way to describe it? Mom and pop station. Mom and pop station held together together with, bailing,

4:09 wire and duct tape. Matt, your studio is literally in a shipping container.

4:14 It's

4:15 the funniest thing. It's it's so old school.

4:18 So

4:19 what is so interesting about you, I mean, when I met you at the church,

4:24 you know, you were very

4:26 active. I think this was probably around the election, maybe four years ago. Mhmm. And, you know, you're like our go to guy for all things local politics,

4:35 the constitution.

4:36 You're just an amazing patriot.

4:39 But you're the kind of patriot that holds conservatives feet to the fire nonstop. I mean, you're like a thorn in their side. And I just I love what you do.

4:49 Well, thank you. And yeah, it is I have more enemies at the capital in Austin than I have friends. But

4:56 but, yeah, I focus

4:59 my my whole focus is Christian first, conservative,

5:03 and then Texas politics.

5:05 And so there's

5:06 so many people doing national politics, you know, Adam, and and I would just be even if I wasn't repeating them, even if not listening to them, I would probably be saying the same things. Yeah. Most of those say, and we have a few good Texas people that cover Texas politics,

5:22 but I'm I think I'm the best among all those Oh, hands down.

5:26 Politics.

5:27 But you We had a vote here and it's two to nothing. Yeah. You're you're also but you're you're like a guy who

5:33 can stuff, you make jellies for everybody, you know, you know, but you have a whole selection.

5:39 I mean, you are as like, if if you wanted to picture a a Norman Rockwell picture of an American, you're it, brother. You got your truck parked outside. I mean, everything is just so perfect. And I'm so excited to talk about some of these issues with you today. But the one other thing I wanted to mention is that I think it's once a year, but maybe multiple times a year for school kids, but also at the capital, you dress up as Ben Franklin.

6:05 I do. I have been playing a Ben Franklin character for about ten years.

6:11 And it started out as a small project. It was three times every summer for a group in Georgetown that puts on Vacation Liberty School. Now, know a lot of your producers got confused a while back when you were talking about Vacation Bible School. Yeah. The the heathens that listen to this that that have no idea what Vacation Bible School is. Well, we do Vacation Liberty School and,

6:34 as part of that program, Ben Franklin comes in and talks about charity and what is this Ben Franklin's beliefs in charity. And then after doing that a few years, I started getting invitations from other people and so

6:48 the last two or three years, I've really gotten a lot of little gigs

6:52 and I just love it. It's absolutely a a blast and I have to shave my beard. You know, my wife, we got married twenty six years ago and I hadn't shaved my beard since like 1989

7:04 or so. Mhmm. And so I decided to go all in as Ben. I had to get rid of the beard. Yeah.

7:10 And so I shaved and I don't think I even told Gail ahead of time. And

7:15 she walked in and I'm really glad she's usually armed,

7:19 but she was As a good Texas wife is. Yes. And so she came in and I'm glad she wasn't armed because she didn't recognize

7:27 me. Who's this stranger in my room? But I've been playing Ben Franklin

7:31 and, it is an absolute treat

7:34 and I love every minute of it and, I have to give credit to we have a local lady also goes to our church. Her name is CJ Lata.

7:43 And, she started making me costumes because I started out Ben Franklin with a,

7:48 Halloween costume Right. From Amazon.

7:51 Yeah. And

7:53 but CJ,

7:54 I now have I I mean, I got like six outfits. The when you dress up as Ben, I mean, you're Ben. I mean, you look like him, you walk like him, you're maybe about the same size that he was.

8:05 And, you know, we had coffee a few was it last week or so? And this is really when it popped in my mind, like, man, love to have Matt on the show with me.

8:14 And use and we're having coffee at Clear River here on Main Street. Well, coffee is a big word. It was basically a shake that tasted like coffee. And he said, hey, man. Can

8:25 you help me with some of your your AI agents and can you download these 15,000

8:30 documents on Ben Franklin from the Yale library?

8:33 Like

8:35 Are you in legally in trouble now? No, man. It was for personal use. It was for personal use.

8:41 You you literally know everything about Ben Franklin. I mean, it's amazing. I know a lot, but definitely not everything there is to know. But yeah, I love and I don't read books about Ben Franklin written by other people. I read his writings and his works,

8:57 and it just gives you gets me into his head.

9:00 And then the interesting thing is when I get into the costume,

9:04 it's

9:06 more than I just look like him, I'm You become him. I become him. Yeah. And I guess someone told me years ago and I don't have any kind of theater background. Well, I have a little bit, but they told me, well, you're a character actor. And I said, well, I don't know. I just get into when I'm in costume, I'm that person.

9:22 Yeah. And that even bothers me when people address me as Matt. When I'm in costume,

9:27 it's like, who is this? Who are you talking about?

9:30 But yeah, I've got a big event coming up, here on September 19. I'm really excited about it. Oh, what's that? What's that? New presentation. It's Liberty in Action, We The People, another,

9:41 grassroots

9:42 organization,

9:43 conservative grassroots organization here and they're having a big fundraiser and, Tom Homan's gonna be there

9:51 That's and Chip Roy. Tom Homan's the DHS guy? Yeah. DHS guy. I have spent a day with him before. He's quite a character. Yeah. And, but we've got a lot of big Texas politicians,

10:02 Don Huffines and

10:04 Wait a minute. Don Huffines,

10:06 he is currently the interim comptroller.

10:09 Yes. And I think he has to do some kind of election. I'm not quite sure why. But isn't he the guy that also bought Epstein's Ranch in in Arizona?

10:17 Yes, he did.

10:19 Yes, he did. How's he feeling about that? You know, I tried to get an interview. I've had him on my program a number of times and after that broke, I called him and I was never able to arrange anything after that. But I mean, come

10:33 Texans do. You buy ranches.

10:35 Yeah. You know, and New Mexico is kind of a cool place. You dig up the you dig up the dead bodies, you know, get rid of them and then, you know, get some cattle on there. I was I was really surprised at the reaction to that.

10:47 Oh, everyone's in me, this guy's creepy and, you know No. That's what I heard everywhere. Oh, Don Huffins. Oh, boy. He's part of it. Epstein. Like, dude, he's like a

10:57 like a mini man. Yeah. He is. He's like petite male, but he's super energetic, loves loves, you know, running the money for for Texas. And he doesn't need money himself. I think he's he's quite wealthy.

11:10 And I was I voted for him like, yeah, that's the guy. I mean, that's the guy you want running our money. And but people have no idea. They just go off in conspiracy theory land like, well, you know, some guy from Texas bought it and it's no good and he's covering everything up like, yeah, I don't think so. And you know, I don't I know Don and his wife real well. He has a twin brother but they Really? Yes. He does. He has a twin brother and you can tell them apart, but they boy, they look awfully a lot alike. And they come from, the Huffines family up in Dallas. Mhmm. People all are get real concerned that is it the Huff Eins out of Houston?

11:44 And so you you gotta be real careful. They're they're the Dallas Huff Eins. Okay. Yeah. And, yeah, their father made a bunch of money and Let me guess, oil? Just guessing. You know,

11:54 cars, I think. Oh, I think he was a auto dealer or is.

11:58 I'm not sure where they got it all, but I'm sure there was some oil in there somewhere. Yeah.

12:03 So,

12:05 whenever there's elections, you're the guy, you talk about the elections,

12:10 you you you do registration

12:13 drives at the church, and something happened this week with the Supreme Court. I'm sure you're up to speed on it. I got a clip here. And this is about the mail in ballots, and this is really interesting. The US supreme court issued an emergency order yesterday that allows the Trump administration to move forward for now with plans to restrict mail in voting ahead of the midterm elections.

12:33 It's a ruling opponents say would bring chaos to the election process only days before ballots in some states are mailed out. Our White House correspondent Liz Landers has more. The ruling allows the administration to proceed with an executive order president Trump signed in March directing the US Postal Service to to determine which voters should receive mail in ballots. It also directs the Department of Homeland Security to build a database of US citizens who are eligible to vote. There are lot of moving parts, and here to help explain it all is Steve Vladek. He's a constitutional law professor at Georgetown University Law Center. Steve, thank you for joining the program this evening.

13:10 Thanks for having me.

13:12 So there are two lawsuits that are challenging the president's executive order about mail in ballots. The Supreme Court decision yesterday had to do with a group of states that sued, while the other case that was brought by the League of Women Voters.

13:25 What did the Supreme Court's ruling tell the states?

13:29 Yeah. So the supreme court's ruling only applied, Liz, to the state's lawsuit, and it only said that the states had sued too early because they brought their lawsuit before

13:38 the US Postal Service issued their final rule, which of course they did last Friday. So it was, I think, win for President Trump, but a very time limited one. It didn't say anything about whether the underlying

13:51 executive order is lawful. It didn't say anything about whether the new Postal Service rule is lawful.

13:56 That issue is now going to be litigated probably pretty quickly

14:00 in both of the cases that are back before judge Tawani in Boston. Now have you followed this case at all, Matt? I have been. Yeah. Absolutely. And I don't think it's gonna have much effect on Texas because we have pretty strict mail in ballot rules, but I know and,

14:16 like my friends out in the the West Coast,

14:20 everybody gets a ballot in Everybody, their

14:22 no matter who you are. Yeah. There's just like stacks of them out there.

14:26 And there's gotta be something in between there. I have voted

14:30 by mail before living overseas and so have done that. In fact, one presidential election, it must have been 90.

14:39 Would have been '88 or 90. We got the ballots on the day that the results were released. In other words, we got our we got our ballots from the embassy on Wednesday after the election. No way. And I'm sitting around around with all my American friends, and they're like, well, why bother? And I said, oh, hell no. We're going to You're going to We're going to fill these all out. We're going to send them in. We're gonna make them do their work.

15:01 And, so we did that. But it is a mail in ballots, I think, are probably the most

15:07 easiest way to steal an election and to get dishonest results.

15:12 And I think we're maybe even thinking about tightening up. Well, we did get a notice recently

15:17 from the Secretary of States

15:20 about mail in ballots. They really need to have a postmark on them. Yes. What happens in a lot of small towns is you'll drop off your ballot at the May at the post office and they'll just take it from the inbox and put it into or take it to the outbox put it into the inbox and they don't even stamp it. Mhmm. And I have a problem with that and so the secretary of state this year issued a thing saying, alright, y'all gotta pay more attention to

15:48 the postmarks

15:49 on that. But, yeah, I think, the West Coast and a couple of other states, they they we've got to do something about the mail in ballots. So what's interesting about this supreme court case, because of course, Rob, the constitutional lawyer Do you know Rob Cardy about in Houston? I've I've met him at a at a meet up. Yeah. The one of the great meet ups in Fredericksburg.

16:07 Fantastic meet ups. Yes. Yeah. He's with suits and boots. If you got hit by a truck, call Rob. There you go. He'll get you the most money ever.

16:16 He says,

16:17 the reason why the supreme court wrote this opinion is because they didn't lose on the merit of the case. This was purely for standing. In other words, because the states hadn't been hurt. Nothing is nothing has happened to them. So they just jumped the gun and

16:31 Rob thinks

16:32 that they won't be even be able to bring anything back to the supreme court until after the election,

16:38 which is which is interesting. So this seems like one of the most phenomenal pieces of lawfare done by Republicans for once because it's always the Democrats who have all the lawfare on their side. And I think this clip explains

16:51 exactly

16:52 what the executive order does. Okay. So let's talk about that executive order. There's another part of president Trump's EO that bars the postal service from delivering ballots to people who are not on federal lists of eligible voters, and it also will direct the Homeland Security Department to create a list of US citizens

17:11 who are eligible to vote. How are these actions affected by the ruling yesterday? So for now, they're not. I mean, the most important thing that folks should know is that the status quo, which is the executive order is not in effect and the USPS rule is not in effect, is still the status quo. All the Supreme Court did yesterday

17:30 was pause one of the two injunctions

17:33 against the executive order. There's still a second injunction blocking the executive order from going into effect. And, Liz, the rule itself says it can't go into effect until that injunction too

17:46 is no longer in effect. So we really are not at the end of the story. We're really more in the middle of the story where there's gonna be more litigation

17:54 and where it's possible that these questions are back in the supreme court perhaps by this time next week. So the way it's gonna work

18:01 is the postal service will only send out will only send on, I guess, mail mail in ballots to people who are on their list. And I think what all of these people forget, it wasn't Benjamin Franklin who started the post office? Why do I think He was he was the first postmaster general

18:18 Right. Under the British. It was Oh, right. Were not we were still the colonies. It was twenty years before freedom and, before our liberty and he was, yeah, the postmaster general. Yeah. And, you know, but it's like postmaster general is because this is this was like the military in a way. Right? The the the the US post office is a constitutional thing. I think they may actually have the power to do this.

18:40 I I think they do. I think they do. And it's gonna be phenomenal to

18:45 because if they don't send ballots to people who they don't deem as, hey, you're not on the list, then it just won't happen. And that would that's always been the problem. And so all these states are crying like, well, you can't do that. Well, yeah, why don't you then don't use the post office. Yeah. Go and go and deliver it. So here's the the attorney general of Arizona because of course, you know, the and by the way, mail in ballot scam has been used by Democrats and Republicans alike. This this is not like a new thing. This is I think Florida probably has won more elections with with sketchy mail in ballots than than any state in the union. But they've come up with the they've come up with the with some wording to make sure everybody knows that this is not gonna work. It's horrible. It's a bad thing. We have to fight this. We will fight this. The good news is basically the the the because the postal service rulemaking,

19:37 is now in effect and is ripe, we can go to court and challenge it.

19:42 So, you know, look for that very,

19:45 very soon

19:46 because, you know, this is ridiculous. It's outrageous. It's unconstitutional.

19:51 Elections are run by states

19:53 and and This is what I love. Yeah. You you're still running your election, just you can't send it through the post office and have it delivered unless the people are on the on the list.

20:02 Yeah. I'm just wondering if, you know, it's been years since we've had any episodes

20:07 of going postal.

20:09 Yeah. What happened to that? That, you know, people just stopped going postal. I think now they're just going pregnant mom. I I don't know if what that is. That's that's a good point. What happened to those dudes going postal? I I don't know. Maybe they got a raise. And

20:25 what they are trying to do is undermine

20:27 the right of of people

20:29 in this country to vote, and they're trying to make it harder

20:33 for our veterans Oh, there it rural Arizona

20:36 Rural. Vote, and we're gonna fight that. You know, obviously, as you point out, elections in America are run by states. It's a federalist country.

20:45 But one thing you said there really stands out, general. First time I hear someone, on a liberal station, you know, call it a federalist country. What happened to your democracy?

20:54 Yeah. No kidding. Are run by states. It's a federalist country.

20:58 But one thing you said there really stands out, attorney general. You said 80 to 90%

21:03 of voters in Arizona cast their ballots by mail. Okay? As in that's the norm. That's how everybody does it. So can you just play the hypothetical with me?

21:11 If this went ahead, okay, and you're forty four days out from everything starting in early October and you had to comply,

21:18 would you even be able to run an election? What would you do? I mean, I I think it's a great question. And I think it would no there's no such thing. It's a great question. Cause

21:26 absolute and total chaos. Chaos. Because the people of my state are are literally going to be waiting

21:33 by their mailbox,

21:35 waiting for that that that

21:38 ballot ballot to to to arrive. And their expectation

21:41 is that it'll arrive,

21:43 and they'll fill it out, and they'll put it in the mail or they'll put it in a Dropbox, and that'll be that. That's how we vote.

21:50 It's how we have voted in Arizona since '92

21:53 and interestingly enough it was pioneered here by Republicans.

21:57 Yeah. Exactly. That's why it should stop altogether.

22:00 Is this when did this really start? I mean, I voted by absentia is what it was called when I was in Europe and you would get an absentee

22:08 ballot because you're out of the country. Was it really just COVID that that accelerated that or she right that Arizona has been doing this forever? I really don't know. I think a lot of these mail in place were way before COVID. I'm pretty sure Oregon was before COVID. Yeah.

22:23 No. I it is I find it get know what I caught out of that was the word rural.

22:28 Yeah. Since when have liberals ever been concerned about people in the rural areas, Well, you

22:34 ever since Dolly Parton passed away, now we care now we care about rural white people. That's that's right. But, yeah,

22:41 I that I think this came along before then and it's this movement of well, it just makes it easy to vote

22:48 And, I'm not sure if voting should be

22:51 that easy. I think it should my my opinion is we need to have a national holiday, all vote on one day, all go in I'm with you on that. And and if you are abled,

23:01 differently abled, or if you're or if you're overseas

23:05 Yeah. Which both Adam and I and many in my family have experienced that being overseas, but we still want to participate,

23:13 there are some legitimate

23:14 reasons,

23:16 and that is where Texas is right now, but it's not if you're 65,

23:22 I think all you have to do is ask for it. Right. Oh, really? Yeah. It has now got an age on it in Texas. So, yeah, if you're over 65 or a certain age, you just, tell them you're old and you can't go in. Well, we should bring that up to parity with Social Security, man. That should be who is it 67? Is that where we're at now? That's where we're at. 67. Yeah. That's like got six more years to go. I can't stand it. Bless your heart. Here's ABC breaking down the ruling. This odd situation

23:48 where we're defending

23:50 the law against

23:51 the federal government. I'm sorry. That's not the one. This is the one with them breaking it down. Andrew, this was a six to three decision by the Supreme Court with the conservative justices voting

24:01 in president Trump's favor to allow him now to begin to implement some key portions

24:07 of that March 2026 executive order that

24:11 imposed some new regulations around mail in voting in The United States just now ahead of the November elections. This was

24:17 an executive order that was challenged by a coalition of democratic led states.

24:22 In their view, it's an unconstitutional

24:25 infringement of how

24:27 how elections are administered. But the supreme court, in its decision today, said that the executive order actually hasn't had any bite yet. It hasn't harmed any of the states just yet. That's right. And therefore, the president should be able to continue with his policies as he sees fit.

24:44 What are those policies? The president with his executive order

24:48 is now going to be allowed to direct the Department of Homeland Security to compile

24:53 citizenship

24:54 list, a federal citizenship list, and to distribute it to the states.

24:58 To also then direct the attorney general to prosecute any state and any state official that would happen to give a mail in ballot to someone who is not on those citizenship lists.

25:08 And to work with the US Postal Service to come up with new standardized

25:13 regulations

25:14 for mail in ballots. How do we feel about that, Matt, about the government making a list of anything?

25:20 Yeah. I guess when it comes to voting, I don't have a problem with that. I think there there should be a database. Every state has a database. I know the constitution

25:28 says that the the method or the means of the election is up to the states.

25:34 And so I see that where they're coming from the constitutional yet. But what struck me on this were the two things they brought up. One was who had standing,

25:44 and the other one that he just mentioned was nothing's happened yet. And so can you sue somebody for something

25:51 you think they might do?

25:53 I mean, I've got a neighbor, you know, that might do something in my you know, throw his trash over my fence. Yeah. Do do can I go ahead and sue him now for something he might do? In New York. I get it. In New York, maybe. I don't know. Yeah. There you go. I get it. But, you know, we tried that recently and it was actually successful and that was here locally where they're trying to stop the solar farm north of town. Right. One of the arguments from that company was, we haven't done anything yet. How can you sue us for something we're What thinking about we haven't even done

26:28 happened to that? That was You know, the judge sided

26:31 with the plaintiffs. Man, I'm learning legal language. The guy Careful, man. This is gonna ruin your rep, man. That's right. The judge, sided with the plaintiffs and I think they're there's a hold on it right now. I do not know all the details on it, but I think Okay. The good guys came out on top. Yeah. And the real I think the real concern there was not so much the solar farm, but the big battery, the best, the big,

26:53 was electrical storage Battery energy storage Oh, there you go. Thank you. But they changed the name, so we don't have to worry about it anymore. Oh, it's not called Bess anymore? No. It's not called Bess. And don't ask me what the new name is. The thing. The thing. Here's

27:07 the details about DHS. Supreme Court did is it temporarily allowed

27:12 Trump's executive order severely restricting mail voting to go into effect. It said it was too early for states to challenge this. And this leads to a lot of uncertainty

27:23 going into the midterms because

27:25 the Trump executive order would radically restrict

27:28 vote by mail. It would instruct the Department of Homeland Security to create lists of voters it deem citizens.

27:35 These lists are likely to be highly inaccurate

27:37 based on the fact that the Department of Homeland Security has already made You're you're you're making faces at me. I'm wondering why they're gonna be highly inaccurate

27:46 based on what? Based

27:49 on the democracy now, of course. They they

27:52 know what they're talking about. What are kidding me? To create lists of voters that deem citizens,

27:56 these lists are likely to be highly inaccurate

27:59 based on the fact that the Department of Homeland Security has already made these egregious

28:04 claims of voter fraud that have turned out not to be true. I don't remember the Department of Homeland Security making

28:10 claims of voter fraud. Who know? Maybe Todd or,

28:15 Holman maybe Holman said something. I don't know. Oh, Holman's

28:18 Holman's loose lips, man. He he does shoot off all the time and says stuff. But not that he cares, but he does say stuff.

28:25 And then it says that the postal service can only deliver mail ballots based on these DHA's lists. And moreover, it will only deliver mail ballots in states that hand over their voter rolls, include sensitive personal information to the federal government. This is essentially a form of extortion. The Department of Foreign Security is trying to create these new lists

28:44 of voters in each state that it claims to The

28:47 problem is that that's not the job of DHS.

28:49 They don't have this information.

28:51 It's not their constitutional role. They've also made these ludicrous claims of voter fraud. For example, they claim that 15,000

28:58 people,

28:59 non citizens,

29:00 were registered to vote in Nevada. When a closer look was taken at that data, it turned out a 185 non citizens were Oh, well, that's okay. It's just a 185. It it's it's never wide scale. It's never large. It's all just little bits and bobs here and there. Just heard. So they had dramatically overstated Dramatically. The number of non citizen voting. And that's the fear here, is that if voting proceeds based on these DHS lists, it's going to be inaccurate,

29:26 it's going to be unconstitutional,

29:28 and a lot of legit I don't see the unconstitutional

29:31 angle at all.

29:32 Yeah. If they, if they pull up that, manner of elections being up to the states, and I don't have the exact language Right. That is in the constitution. Right. But they they can still hold their election. It's just you can't use the US Postal Service without them being on the list. If and otherwise,

29:48 go to,

29:50 hire FedEx.

29:51 Yeah. There you go. DHS lists, it's going to be inaccurate.

29:55 It's going to be unconstitutional.

29:56 And a lot of legitimate American voters

29:59 are going to be wrongly labeled as non citizens and unable to vote either based on shoddy data or an intentional attempt by the Trump administration to prevent people from voting. There it is. There it is. Oh, yes. Of course. This is how Trump is going to steal the election. You watch. There's going to be a

30:18 a j six or left, insurrection. You just watch. Election deniers. Election deniers. Here's here's my favorite though. We'll wrap this one up with Leticia James.

30:26 Of course, she is the AG in New York. What does this mean? It comes right after you and a group of attorneys general filed a new lawsuit to block the postal service rule from taking effect. It's not clear you'll get any relief until as early as next week. So what happens between now and then? So I and my democratic attorneys general will continue to challenge this rule because this rule will create nothing but chaos and confusion. Chaos and confusion. Mark it down. That's that's going to be the the term of the day, chaos and confusion. Who doesn't love some good alliteration? In the state of North Carolina, in less than eleven days, they will mail out a ballot to

31:06 individuals who are in armed forces as well as to citizens

31:11 in These United States. And it's critically important

31:14 that individuals understand that the only reason why this rule was created is because individuals,

31:19 particularly those in the White House, believe that they cannot run on their record No. And therefore, they have to steal this election. Steal it. This is nothing more than an attempt to suppress the right to vote, and I and my Democratic colleagues will fight this all the way to the United States Supreme Court. Let's be clear. The United States Postal Service and the president of These United States does not have jurisdiction

31:40 over the elections. It states,

31:43 and it's in the constitution.

31:45 And that's why it's critically important that individuals understand

31:48 that states have the power and the duty and the responsibility

31:53 to administer elections,

31:54 not the president and definitely not the postal system. There you go. That's the Can I add one more thing to this? Please. Please. The list they're talking about, you know, these highly inaccurate lists. Every single state keeps a list of registered voters. Mhmm. In fact, in Texas, I can ask for that list

32:13 and get it, and it's not that big a deal. And, so

32:18 that list would just be a matter of 50 different states Mhmm. Sending a zip file

32:24 off the DC Drop in a drop box. Put it in a drop box and say, these are all our registered voters. Right. It's not it's not like they're gonna have to create something new or, you know, spend years getting it all together.

32:37 Just send them the list. And then I guess what DHS is gonna do, I guess they have the list of who has who has citizenship.

32:44 I would presume somebody has a list of that somewhere or at least I mean, I don't know. Yeah. Is there a list of that? I presume so. God, bound to be. I yeah. Especially if they're naturalized. If they've been naturalized

32:57 citizens, they've come in and,

32:59 know, taken the courses and answered the passed the test and gotten sworn in. Yep. Those people's names are on a list. Yeah. So they're gonna do a little a little diff, a little a b and then that's it. Yeah. You're on the list, you're good to go.

33:12 But this is how they're going to steal the election. Of course. Of course.

33:16 So there was something else. This president,

33:19 I'm gonna miss him just for all his wackiness and for the crazy stuff he does and people don't realize that, you know, there's so much hate. He's not acting presidential.

33:29 Though and this is something that, you know, I think you and I both know a lot about when it comes to ranchers. We have a lot of friends who are ranchers, know, the the Texas

33:39 is ranching, you know, Texas has fed the country in the the entire country in the past.

33:44 So this is the,

33:45 the beef deal that, the president announced. I'll play a little backgrounder here. Let's turn to Washington now. A new push by the Trump administration to curb inflation at the grocery store by lowering beef prices.

33:57 Eamon Jabberts joins us. He has the story for us. Eamon. Yeah. Good morning, David. President Trump is turning his attention to rising costs for voters today announcing

34:05 what he calls a deal to substantially lower the price of ground beef for working American families.

34:11 The president said on social media that The US will allow up to 300,000

34:15 metric tons of product for ground beef to be imported. By the way, 300,000

34:20 tons of ground beef? Do you know how many cattle that is? I don't know. It's over a million head. Over a million cows.

34:29 That's a lot of cows, brother. I I don't I'm not quite sure where that's coming from, and that's the point. With no out of quota tariff,

34:36 and he said that we have a commitment

34:38 that this beef will be sold at 25%

34:41 below current market prices.

34:43 But all this presents something of a mystery here, guys. In his social media post, the president didn't say who he had concluded this deal with, and he did not specify who exactly had made a commitment

34:55 to sell that below market beef. Now, CNBC has reached out to the White House with questions about this. We've gotten no response so far,

35:03 and we are contacting the major beef importers to see if any of those companies

35:07 will confirm that they are party to an agreement with the White House. We'll let you know if we get any more information, guys. But overall, this really symbolizes the president's concern going into those midterm elections that prices are still too high for consumers.

35:21 This of course is about the so called affordability

35:25 crisis. Now what happens when the president makes an announcement like this?

35:29 The the price of beef dropped immediately.

35:32 I mean, the cattle futures dropped, everything drops,

35:35 and so people are waiting for the other shoe to drop.

35:38 And I was kind of stunned by the thing that was CNBC

35:42 saying, well, we we can't actually find, you know, who this deal is with. Some people said Argentina,

35:49 I saw memes everywhere like, we're gonna get poisoned beef from Argentina.

35:53 The president's gonna kill us with this subpar beef.

35:57 And then I get a boots on the ground from a No Agenda rancher,

36:01 not just any rancher, a regenerative

36:03 Zoomer

36:04 rancher, and he sent in an audio report. Hey, Adam. This is the anonymous rancher from Northwest North Picture Woodward Gate. Quick gala report.

36:14 Boots on the ground.

36:16 Just keep in mind that I am actually a Zoomer, so fairly young.

36:21 After Trump's announcement,

36:23 I kinda took it in your to No Agenda vade that

36:26 Trump likes to put stuff on social media and let it ruminate and see what happens. You know, he didn't actually do anything as far as I know to purchase the the beef,

36:38 but he did truth it from what I've heard.

36:41 And that's just dropped the market along with the

36:44 flash closing.

36:45 I take a different point of view than most people. I I am regenerative.

36:51 We've been taking these last couple of years to switch our herd around to get it ready to be operating

36:57 low cost

36:58 even after the markets have turned down. And the cattle market's been high a year longer than it should have been. Usually, the cattle market runs on eleven year cycles,

37:08 you know, give or take. So we've been I think we're year 12 of a high market. So we should have we should have crashed already based on just market fluctuations.

37:17 See, I didn't know that. I didn't know there was a eleven year cycle to the cattle market. You know, I think and I'm thinking we're seeing this a lot these days. People not understanding the cycle

37:28 of different

37:29 things like that,

37:31 the economic

37:32 cycle

37:33 and how drought might affect the cattle crops and so the cattle. And so the price goes up this year and everybody goes, oh my goodness. But then things, there is a natural cycle Mhmm. To these things and interfering

37:47 with it is a is is a no no. It's against nature, man. It is. It is. Yo,

37:53 dude. Yeah. Stop meddling when they so our anonymous Zoomer rancher goes on because, you know, I've talked about the commodity cowboys. These are the people who really

38:02 they're not like

38:03 coal at KNC. They're not like this this rancher, regenerative feeding their their local community. And you don't have to bring your cattle to one of the big three processors. Right. In fact, coal is doing quite well. I mean, you know, he's successful. He's not gonna be a billionaire, but he doesn't care. He he wants to do this. He loves what he does.

38:23 And you got these commodity cowboys

38:26 who just, you know, they they stuff their cow with $1,100

38:29 worth of Cheerios and I'm not kidding. I've talked to Texas slim. When they go to the stockyard,

38:34 they feed them Cheerios

38:35 to fatten them up and get them to the right weight and everything. So that's not your, you know, your grass fed grain finish. No. That's Cheerio cows.

38:44 And

38:45 and they're just concerned about what they put in and what they get out and they take it off to, you know, JBS and one of these other guys which is cartel and, you know, I I think that they're actually working on, you know,

38:56 breaking up some stuff with those guys because, you know, not even American companies, they're owned by Brazil and by China.

39:02 And, so our anonymous,

39:04 Zuma Rancher says something about that here. Cattle people are,

39:08 commodity cowboys. That's that's true.

39:10 A lot of them, you know, they sit and they watch the market report on TV and,

39:15 you know, they can go and complain to everybody else about the the markets and the weather and the government, the three things you can't,

39:22 change.

39:23 Whereas,

39:25 you know, us regenerative,

39:26 sell by

39:28 minded people, we're we're gonna focus on what we can change,

39:32 and we're gonna make a profit while doing it. The only limit to your success is the creativity of your mind. Yeah. Exactly. Be creative. That's what an American does. You you get creative.

39:43 And, he said he has some issues. It's not easy, but he is he's he's ready for the challenge. I'm young. I'm not even 30 yet. Bam. And I see nothing but opportunities in my future. That's what I love. I see a lot of guys that are fixing to retire and boy, you give us some time and,

40:00 you know, we I don't know if we're gonna be owning a whole lot of land, but,

40:05 you know, if we could keep our landowners happy, I can see us leasing as much ground as we could get ahold of because there's not a whole lot of us young guys wanting to come back

40:14 yet.

40:15 Now the labor part, that's gonna be tough. We use a lot of h two a labor from South Africa

40:19 and

40:20 different culture. It's hard to keep those guys from wrecking equipment

40:24 and everything around them, but it's all just a learning curve.

40:28 Sky's the limit when it comes to ranching if you ask me.

40:31 Anonymous rancher, out. Alright. See, I love that guy. So so can I ask you a technical question? Yeah. Did you run that through, like Adobe.

40:41 Enhance.

40:42 Alright. Yeah. I could tell the little signs of it. Yeah. I'd it was really noisy, his audio and I I tried to clean up as best as possible.

40:51 You know, he's a rancher, know. It's like, I I can't feed a cow. By the way, I don't think it's Honey Nut Cheerios, someone asked me in the troll room. I was, you know, I think Froot Loops would have been better. Can you imagine, you know, cutting your steak up and it being, you know, red, green and yellow and, I think that would be cool. I think I'd want some fruits Froot Loops steaks.

41:11 Oh, man.

41:13 General,

41:15 General Scott Besant.

41:17 You've

41:18 changed his name. You know, when you're on, the podcast with Jimmy, you don't ever call him the gay general. Well, I I get crap for it, you know. Okay. Like we like we have the anonymous gay accountant and you know, I'm sure he's not happy with me calling him that. Yeah. And then it's just I'm focusing too much in the gay part. It's more like Elizabeth Warren's brother because, man, he has a weird looking face. He he he has that same kind of, you know, shaky

41:43 demeanor when he's talking, but the man is doing some interesting stuff. He is. And we have a new a new war operation.

41:51 We have a new D Day operation

41:53 economic

41:54 outcast.

41:55 Today, we're launching Listen to him. Today

41:58 today we

41:59 who gave him some some cojones? Today, we're announcing this. I am Scott Bess. And today,

42:06 we are launching Operation Economic Outcast to foreclose

42:10 every other option available to the Iranian regime.

42:15 Treasury has mapped every node,

42:18 every facilitator,

42:19 and every network that Iran has used to smuggle oil and evade sanctions.

42:25 Beginning today,

42:26 the actions of Treasury and other agencies will tighten the noose and block every potential source of revenue

42:34 that funds the IRGC

42:36 and the evil Iranian regime.

42:39 We are enforcing a zero leakage approach. Zero leakage. There will be no minimal breathing space for the regime to rebuild its capacity

42:46 to inflict terror against America

42:49 and the world. You gotta wonder how corrupt this business with Iran has been throughout the decades,

42:55 when really all you need to do is just turn off the money. No one was doing that. We've had all kinds of treasury secretaries.

43:02 I mean, the dollar is is the the money that people use to buy and sell oil. How come that's never happened before? It seems like a no brainer. It does. And you know what? I'm telling you, it's interesting that China came out within minutes. I mean, it was literally within the hour.

43:20 China came on and said, yeah. No. We're not gonna we're not gonna stick to that. We will continue our support of Iran.

43:26 And then on the very same day, the CIA flies into Into Moscow. Into Moscow. Yeah. I know. There's listen. This is scary for me to say, but this type of action, is

43:39 this opening the door for a literal true world war? No.

43:44 No. No? No. Because we're already at at d day. We're ending the war right away. Listen to the general. Operation Economic Outcast.

43:52 That's the administration's

43:54 new name for its plan

43:55 to choke off Iran economically by targeting any country that does business with Tehran. In the second World War,

44:02 D Day marked the historic beginning of a campaign with our allies to target and drive the enemy from its positions,

44:12 including those in third countries.

44:14 Today,

44:15 in that same spirit,

44:17 we are launching an economic onslaught

44:20 against Iran's financial connections connections around around the the globe. Globe.

44:25 That's I mean, so there's no war. There's no there's there's no world war. It's over. We have d day. It's d day. D day is here. We're liberating. We're liberating the world and maybe we are.

44:35 I

44:36 mean, this is it's just like there's there's enough oil in The Gulf and it's going through pipelines and we're bringing it through the Southern route. You know, these guys, they're just no good.

44:46 You know, I have to say that

44:49 the

44:50 we'll clean this up. I lost complete track.

44:54 Don't worry. I'll play another clip and you'll get it back. Okay. There you go. Now it's not really clear what We don't edit anything on the show here, Matt. That's right. It's warts and all on this show. Okay. Now it's not really clear what impact the new sanctions will have on the Iranian economy. It's been subject to years of maximum pressure, and it hasn't caused the regime to crumble yet. There's still a lot of questions about who will be targeted and when.

45:18 The treasury secretary, Scott Bess, was at a press conference today laying it all out. And he said that the plan is to, quote, tighten the news and force, quote, zero linkage approach to cutting off revenue

45:29 that funds Iran's economy. And he did lay out some specific areas that would be targeted, including technology,

45:35 gold, shipping, aviation.

45:38 Now he's also said that Trump had called some world leaders to talk about the economic pressure, but he said he wouldn't name names about who he had called, and he refused to say how long The US was giving these governments

45:49 to fall in line. Now,

45:51 Bess and compared all of this to an economic d day, and I asked him about that. Here's what he said. Well,

45:58 this is this is where I think Bess and

46:01 put in a bit of a tell. Described this as an economic d day, but d day wasn't a threat of an invasion and The US didn't give a timeline to Germany. So why not impose the sanctions today? Why would I want to blow up the global financial system? What? What?

46:18 What?

46:19 What is he planning here? I'm so when when it's time he blows up the financial system or if he had told them, this is this to me is Or it's going to blow it up or I don't know. But if we tell him first, it won't blow it. I remember seeing that live and going,

46:35 wait a minute, there's something weird about that. We believe that it is important to level set

46:41 and give people a cure period,

46:43 but they should know

46:45 that that will move very quickly and that we are serious.

46:48 If people do not want to meet our expectations,

46:52 then we expect

46:53 and they should expect that they should will leave the dollar system. Another big question hanging over all of this is how China might be affected. Beijing is the top purchaser of Iranian oil. It's Iran's biggest trading partner. But Trump doesn't appear at the moment to be in a mood to upend his relationship with the Chinese president Xi Jinping,

47:12 who's coming here to the White House for a state visit next month. Yeah. See, there's no coincidence in timing in this. Mhmm. They can't they just it's, you know, Xi Jinping is coming.

47:23 Boy, what kind of ceremony is the president gonna give to Xi Jinping?

47:26 I don't know. You think they're gonna clean up the streets of San Francisco? No. No. That

47:31 was great, wasn't it? Yeah. That was. All the homeless were gone. They were all in the in the in bay.

47:37 It was fantastic. No. They're gonna have flyovers. We're gonna have fireworks,

47:42 all kind. We'll probably have them. We should do a march, you know, like they do in China. Yeah. And maybe even drop a couple of bombs nearby,

47:49 you know, just we got some tiny nukes we've never used. You're the worst, Matt. You're the worst. I have I do wanna make one comment on this d day thing.

47:57 That

47:59 was a that was a bloody deadly day. It was A lot of families were destroyed on that day. Yeah. I just I just looked it up, and we lost 2,501

48:11 Americans

48:12 on d day in one day.

48:14 And, the total loss that day of allied troops was over 4,000,

48:19 including

48:20 391

48:21 Canadians.

48:22 Man, those were the Canadians, I'm telling you.

48:25 But that

48:26 I have a hard time him using that term d day because Oh, yeah. It it it

48:31 kinda connotates I know all what it is that they say about all comparisons

48:36 break down or

48:38 at some point in time When you call someone Hitler? Yeah. Well,

48:42 analogies

48:43 break down at some point. Right. And this one I think broke down right away at the beginning and I I think they could have used a better term

48:50 than that. And I know there's probably very few people even alive today that can remember what happened on that day. There's there's about 18,

49:00 US veterans,

49:02 a friend of the show, Agent Orange, he takes them to Normandy every single year. They're over 100 years old now. Mhmm. And, you know, he takes he gets them on I think it's used to be American Airlines, now I think it's United. You know, whoever whoever will treat them the best flies them over there and those guys sit there and they and they remember and it's just it's a beautiful beautiful ceremony

49:24 that they do there. And

49:26 but even my

49:28 maternal grandfather,

49:29 Opa Al Shoble, he landed at at Normandy

49:32 And he got a he got a

49:35 a bronze star, I think, for saving some he was in Telk in the signal and wire core.

49:41 But, yeah, it was not he, you know, it was not like it was not a great it was not a great time there at all. My, great aunt was an administrator

49:50 and a hospital administrator,

49:52 actually was in Hawaii,

49:54 and had left the day before the, the bombing,

49:58 Pearl Harbor.

49:59 And,

50:00 after right after d day, within a couple of days, she was shipped into

50:06 land there, and she ran the hospital in

50:09 is it Cherbourg? I can't remember. One of the two towns there. There's two towns. I don't know. And there was a hospital there, and she

50:16 ran that hospital

50:18 and was the administrator of that hospital right after D Day, and of course, she's not alive now to hear the stories, but I imagine there were saw a lot of ugly things in that hospital.

50:30 You mentioned the CIA director flying to, flying to Moscow.

50:35 Here's ABC. Sources say John Ratcliffe made the unannounced trip Sources sources say. Sources say John Ratcliffe made the unannounced trip to Moscow overnight.

50:43 This is Ratcliffe's first known trip to Russia as the head of the agency.

50:47 The CIA declined to comment. Officials from both countries have not disclosed what was discussed in these meetings. Ratcliffe's visit comes amid stalled negotiations

50:55 to try to end Russia's war with Ukraine and just days after president Trump warned of economic repercussions for Iran's allies, such as Russia. Now I

51:05 so I don't know

51:07 if it was really about Iran per se. I know that president Trump wants to play ball with Russia. Mhmm. Then I don't see why we shouldn't actually.

51:15 There seems to be no reason

51:17 other than, you know, the full scale invasion of Ukraine

51:21 Right. Which we provoked. We set it all up, you know, then thank you Victoria Newland. I think it may have more to do with the

51:28 deal with Canada.

51:30 And I think this is Doug Ford. Doug Ford. These Ford guys up north, they crack me up. I think he mentioned

51:38 even mentioned Russia as an alternative to some Canadian products we would not get anymore. Premier Ford, Alex Tabo with MS Now. In the past, you've threatened yet stronger retaliation against The US, including curtailing the export of electricity from Ontario to The US. Would you still go that far?

51:56 I would. Everything's on the table, but I can't do it alone.

51:59 You know, I'm not the only province that ships electricity down to The US.

52:04 We need a team Canada approach,

52:07 and I'd be happy within the provinces to lead lead lead that approach.

52:11 If this escalates and we can't get back to the table

52:15 and he keeps coming after us, all options are on the table in my opinion,

52:20 but I can't do it alone. We we have other provinces

52:23 that send electricity down to The US. We all have to be on the same page.

52:27 And a follow-up.

52:29 We know literally why we're in this trade war right now, but I guess more philosophically,

52:34 what are the undercurrents that have brought us to this moment?

52:37 President Trump. Simple as that. You have a president. Unlike president Reagan that didn't believe in tariffs,

52:44 president Reagan

52:45 believed in growing the economy on both sides of the border and around the world.

52:49 Make no mistake about it. America

52:52 is a powerhouse,

52:53 but we're an economic powerhouse as well. We're The US' number one customer

52:58 across the board, across the world.

53:00 We buy more products, more services, more widgets

53:03 off The US than anyone in the world. And a tariff on Canada is nothing more than a tax on the American people. There it is. I feel terrible for our workers here, the steel workers and auto sector, but we're gonna back them. Now, what I was looking for is a clip where he mentions potash,

53:18 which is Potash is for fertilizing?

53:22 Yeah.

53:23 Yes. Yes, it is. Potash. I was thinking of the other potash.

53:27 Oh, no. No. That's that's from back in the day, man. Potash.

53:31 Yeah. It's absolutely necessary for fertilizer.

53:34 And there's so many of these things we import that we have we have been blessed with a bountiful country.

53:40 There are so many things we have in our country that Can make potash? I bet we can. What what is what is potash?

53:47 No. That is not my area of expertise. Hold on a second. Ask the book of knowledge.

53:53 Yes. This is exactly where I'm going. Hold on a second. Book of knowledge, what exactly is potash?

53:59 Let's see what the Book of Knowledge has for us today.

54:05 Okay.

54:06 It's all potash, so I don't know if if he's gonna According

54:10 to the Book of Knowledge, potash is a general term for potassium containing compounds,

54:16 most commonly potassium carbonate or potassium chloride

54:20 derived historically from leaching wood ash in iron pots. Hence,

54:24 the name pot ash.

54:26 It is widely used today as a fertilizer to enrich soil and boost crop yields and is also essential in the manufacture of glass, soap and various industrial chemicals.

54:39 Thus,

54:40 it has been written. So

54:42 we can't make that? We don't have that stuff here? I don't know. I was just reading, apparently, there is, Michigan.

54:47 There is a domestic

54:49 potash project

54:51 in

54:52 Michigan,

54:53 and it sounds like they take burnt wood and Mhmm. And do some you know, the

54:59 waste of space in the Northwest now that is

55:03 I'm sorry. That is, you know, being

55:06 occupied

55:07 by crazy liberals.

55:09 They got enough trees up there. We can make our own potash.

55:12 I'm sorry. We're Americans. That's right. I'm I got my tongue in my cheek very, very carefully.

55:19 But apparently, this New Mexico

55:22 and Utah

55:23 also

55:24 produce

55:25 potash.

55:26 You know, we found out during World War two

55:29 how many resources we had in this country and what we were able to do. And we just if it's easier to get it from Mexico or China or whatever, that's just our nature. We're gonna go, oh, yeah, go over and get it in China, why not? You And

55:44 I just think that when we become so dependent

55:49 You have foreign resources a country. You don't have a country. Yeah. What where does that eventually

55:55 lead you? And so,

55:57 yeah, guess if we didn't have any potash from Canada, well, bless your hearts. I you know,

56:03 maple syrup and hockey,

56:05 that's

56:06 There's there's literally gonna be tariffs on hockey sticks. Did you know that? No. I didn't. A hockey stick costs about $200

56:13 Get out of here. For a good hockey stick. Yeah. So it's it'll probably cost 3 to $400.

56:18 I'm pretty sure we can make a curved stick of wood. Absolutely.

56:21 You think we could. But that see, that's the whole idea

56:25 behind

56:27 president Trump's

56:29 American system, you know, which I think was a I think Hamilton had the same, you know, the American system. I know you've given me that look like I'm just spouting here, Matt. Don't what you're talking about. Trying to think about it. Well, the idea is

56:42 build it here, all our resources here, and how we're gonna grow our way out of the

56:48 the deficit and the and the debt

56:51 is with tariffs. That has always been the plan.

56:54 That's why, you know, the democrat and the Canadian,

56:59 you know, Ford esque type response is always, it's going to be a tax on the American people.

57:04 We definitely have issues with being able to afford things, which is a salary issue

57:09 and to some degree, a debasement issue of the dollar.

57:14 But

57:14 we can we can we can make steel and that's happening now. Yeah. And that will bring

57:20 oh, here it comes. Good paying union jobs, Joe Biden. There you go. I mean I mean, we can get back to that. The whole the whole midsection of the country had just been destroyed. Tina lived in right across from Geary, Indiana where they still don't have power after thirteen days. Wow.

57:38 And her her dad, you know, the mill closed. He worked at the steel mill, closed.

57:42 That wall went to China. Mhmm. But it's coming back. It's and yeah, it's it's not gonna be easy for a couple of years, never is.

57:51 But I think they they

57:54 may be able to pull it off. I don't know. I I really don't know. Well, know, the tariffs were never part of the Republican

58:02 playbook ever.

58:03 And he's right, the the the Canadian I hate to say that, the Canadian was right when he said Reagan was very much against tariffs. Mhmm. And I I tell you what, I was very very shocked when I first heard Trump's talk about tariffs. I'm thinking, wait a minute, wait a

58:18 minute, oh no. And so then, I watched all the Republicans all of a sudden flip one eighty from, oh, tariffs are no good, tariffs are bad, but Trump's doing it. And so tariffs now are good. Mhmm. And I've heard, listened to a lot of the excuses and a lot of the

58:37 justifications

58:38 for his tariffs,

58:39 and I think I buy into some of them. Mhmm. But this was definitely tariffs are a progressive

58:44 liberal

58:45 thing that,

58:47 Republicans and conservatives have steered away from for years. So it's really been an interesting flip

58:53 Mhmm. That all of a sudden now we're all

58:55 gung ho about tariffs.

58:58 So I hope I hope we get out of it what, Trump, our president says we'll get out of it. The idea is

59:05 it becomes too expensive to buy the stuff from overseas, so we make it ourselves. That's the entire idea, the way I see it. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's forceful.

59:13 It's a lot of people who have Internet shops are very upset. I get it, you know, because yeah, what a bonanza. I mean, you you get stuff from China, you mark it up. I mean, just

59:25 I mean, I walked through the mall with Tina a couple weeks ago and and it was some women like like a mid range women's clothing shop. And I look at sandals.

59:36 Literally,

59:37 two slabs of probably not even real leather with a strap on it. It has some brand on it that I don't know the brand.

59:44 And

59:45 it's $280.

59:47 I'm like, Are you kidding me? This is this is, you know, this is made in China. It cost them maybe $3, maybe even less to make these, ship them over, put a brand on it. Boom. There it is all of a sudden, $280.

59:59 I'm like, this is ridiculous.

1:00:00 You know, that it just makes no sense. And then you bought them for

1:00:04 No.

1:00:05 No way. I don't think so. No. No. I know. I guilt her about something like, you know, you gotta that's why I'm doing it like,

1:00:13 these Chinese slaves, the Uighurs

1:00:16 Uighurs sweat and blood is in these things. She believe, again, Geary, Indiana or Gary or something. Gary. Yeah. That's what I thought it was, Gary. No. It's Gary. You gotta you got Gary, Indiana. I can't quite perfect it yet. Okay. Dude, my wife,

1:00:31 she

1:00:32 you know, we have like a like a moisturizer with a little pump on the top. When

1:00:38 the when it doesn't come out of the pump anymore Yeah. The top comes off and we are to scrape the insides.

1:00:44 Oh, yeah. Okay. Alright. And then put your hand over the over the straw and and use it that way for at least three more weeks. Oh, oh, three weeks. Wow. There's a lot in there. Yeah. No worries.

1:00:55 Why don't they make those little straws longer? I don't understand. You just cut open it with a with a razor. Can take That's that's

1:01:02 way and then you can just get it out. I gotta do that. Listen. I used to listen. I used to wash out my Ziploc bags, you know, and and hang them up to dry. So I know where your wife is coming from. I love her for that, man. I Good. She's like, this is just a rip off. It's a waste. I'm not throwing it away. And so now now I'm like, I'm going all over the top now. You should see my toothpaste tube.

1:01:25 I mean, I we have those like big keys that you can slip on it and you can and you can twist it all the I can't believe this. I have one too. I can't believe this. You have one of those keys? I do. From my grandmother out of her bathroom. Yeah. It's the best. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh.

1:01:40 So the one thing the president does say that could be a problem is aluminum.

1:01:45 But for all the rhetoric, Trump last night did acknowledge The US relies on Canada for some key products like aluminum.

1:01:53 You know, selfishly,

1:01:55 we need aluminum in this country. We don't have it. We get it all from Canada for the most part, and we need it badly.

1:02:02 President Trump has long lamented the trade deficit between the two countries, which stood at nearly $50,000,000,000

1:02:08 last year.

1:02:10 But for a trading relationship as big as The US and Canada's,

1:02:14 these tariffs still hit just a fraction of the roughly $800,000,000,000

1:02:19 of commerce between the two neighbors,

1:02:21 which US trade representative Jameson Greer has echoed. At the end of the day, this is 5% of imports from Canada. It's point 06%

1:02:30 Oh, our, you know, overall consumption in this economy. So there's there's no possible way it can really affect

1:02:36 US well-being.

1:02:38 Still,

1:02:39 for states like Michigan, which trades heavily with the nation to its north, this trade war is already having consequences.

1:02:48 Michael Howard says his furniture business has started losing clients. With a 50%

1:02:54 tariff,

1:02:55 all those costs have skyrocketed,

1:02:57 and our just that one project just cost our family thousands of dollars,

1:03:02 in profit,

1:03:04 and which impacts ability for us to put food on the table for our family. On The US Canadian border, where $2,500,000,000

1:03:11 in goods cross every day,

1:03:14 the costs to citizens on both sides continue to grow. So you take that furniture maker. I presume he's getting wood from Canada.

1:03:22 Could be. We got lots of wood. You just mentioned that. We got to wood.

1:03:26 I mean, we have we even have producers

1:03:29 who make cool boots and

1:03:32 really nice men's shoes and they do it all in America. I mean, it really is possible. And I don't see the price being outrageously high. It's certainly not the $280,

1:03:42 you know,

1:03:43 sandals. Sandals. Give me a break. So Canada's firing back. In Ottawa today, Canada's government had a clear message.

1:03:52 It's firing back. Canada will meet the moment.

1:03:55 Canadians

1:03:56 will meet the moment. We will meet the moment together.

1:04:00 Alright. Net net has sent sent this to me in the Troll Room five times now. Canada sends 5,000,000 tons of garbage

1:04:09 to Michigan every year.

1:04:11 We're literally taking their garbage.

1:04:13 Okay. So why don't you keep your garbage?

1:04:16 That's right. Is there a tariff on garbage?

1:04:19 No. And they got all that land going up north. You know, you look at the map and Canada doesn't seem to have a northern boundary. No. It just goes all It the way goes

1:04:28 all the way up there.

1:04:29 Man, they could there's a lot of pits they could dig up there and put their trash in. Yeah. And besides,

1:04:36 recycled. I didn't think they even made trash in Canada because they're so cool. They are. We'll support our workers,

1:04:42 our businesses, and our industry

1:04:44 with whatever it takes for as long as it takes. Starting September 8, Canada will impose or raise tariffs ranging between 15 and 50 percent,

1:04:55 affecting $27,000,000,000

1:04:57 worth of imports,

1:04:59 and that will hit over 700

1:05:01 US products,

1:05:03 including some key US imports.

1:05:06 Our

1:05:07 response will specifically target products in the sectors of steel,

1:05:11 aluminum, household appliances,

1:05:13 farming equipment, paper products, and electronics.

1:05:16 Canada's

1:05:18 retaliation

1:05:19 follows the Trump administration

1:05:20 placing 50% tariffs

1:05:22 on roughly $20,000,000,000

1:05:24 worth of Canadian imports on Saturday.

1:05:27 Along with threats of more to come, president Trump said he'll impose 50%

1:05:32 on steel and autos starting next year.

1:05:36 And this clash between allies has gone beyond goods.

1:05:39 President Trump wrote on social media that The US doesn't expect to do business with the Canadian border province of Ontario,

1:05:47 adding, quote, The United States is giving serious consideration

1:05:51 to changing the name of Lake Ontario to Lake America.

1:05:55 To that That's right. One Canadian official simply said today

1:05:59 We'll always call it Lake Ontario.

1:06:02 So so that is the typical Trump look over here moment.

1:06:07 I'm gonna, you know, just mess troll with everybody. By the way, looked it up. Lake Ontario,

1:06:12 it literally is half, you know, if if there's ownership, what there isn't. There's a there's a border that runs through it. It's roughly about right in the middle and we can call it whatever we want. That's right. We can call it Lake America. I think we should. I think that it's hilarious. There you go. It's Lake America. It's official. It's just like, oh, man.

1:06:33 This of course is what, you know, the media loves to jump on these things. Trump wants to rename Lake Ontario,

1:06:39 Lake America,

1:06:40 and that's not even the real story. This is just the latest jab in an escalating trade war between The US and Canada,

1:06:47 and the bigger threat just landed. President Trump says he will impose 50%

1:06:51 tariffs on Canadian cars, trucks, auto parts, and steel starting from the January 1 next year. Canada's already hitting back starting September 8. They're matching Blah blah blah. Here's another one. President Donald Trump is back to weaponizing bodies of water. He's

1:07:08 weaponizing bottle bodies of water. On posted on truth social, his administration is giving serious consideration

1:07:15 right. The name of Lake Ontario to Lake America. He even posted an image of a map showing the great Lake He even posted an image of the map. Oh, no. His proposed new name. This comes as Trump is engaged in a bitter trade feud with Canadian leaders. Unsurprisingly,

1:07:30 Canadians aren't happy about it. I think it's a bit of a

1:07:35 power

1:07:36 struggle,

1:07:37 you know, kind of a little man's ego complex.

1:07:41 No. Little man little man's ego little man's ego have you seen the president's butt?

1:07:46 That thing is is larger than than that the two of us put together. That thing is enormous.

1:07:52 McDonald's.

1:07:53 McDonald's.

1:07:54 Not Coke. He's got a Mickey D caboose, baby. I think, building of animosity between two neighbors is something that,

1:08:02 is never a good result. It's not the first time Trump has tried to rename a body of water having previously signed an executive order last year attempting to change the name of the Gulf Of Mexico to the Gulf Of America. US government agencies and the coast guard have since adopted the name, while other countries have not recognized the change. So the general thinking here is that, you know, of course, this is Mark Carney who's the the prime minister.

1:08:27 He is the banker the central banker's central banker basically. You know, he's all he's all about the liberal rules based world order.

1:08:35 This the general thinking amongst people that I talk to is this is really

1:08:41 just about the midterms.

1:08:43 Oh, it all is. Make Trump look bad for the midterms, you know, get everyone all jacked up about,

1:08:49 you know, about prices and tariffs and, you know, the the hockey sticks are gonna be too expensive, etcetera. And when Doug Ford talks about electricity, I think he's only talk is he do they really have electricity wires coming to America or is he talking about oil? I had no. I think I've heard that before. The power lines part of their, part of the very northern area of some of our states. Oh, wow. And, you know, The US, we have three power

1:09:14 grids in the in the country, and one of them is Texas, one of them is West, one of them is East, the other one's Texas. Yeah. Imagine.

1:09:22 And, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if there are power lines, going over, the border, into US countries or

1:09:30 you into our states. It wouldn't surprise me. These United States. I love the way that gal earlier said that. These United States. And that's the way it should be said, actually. So yesterday, I was talking to pastor Jimmy who do the podcast, we get to do this, and he and a a question came up. I think he asked me like, well, what news can we believe?

1:09:51 Mhmm. You know, and I'm like, none. You can't believe any news at all whatsoever.

1:09:55 The best thing you can do is talk to somebody who knows what's going on, who's actually an expert in that field, which is what our producers are on the No Agenda show, boots on the ground. I just got a text from

1:10:07 the oil Baron. Okay. Paul the oil Baron. And he sent me a full article, but I I have no time to read it while on the show. He says, the Trump administer administration is in talks with Venezuela's

1:10:17 interim government

1:10:19 about taking an ownership stake in the South American country's enormous oil resources,

1:10:24 two US officials tell Axios. Now, we know Axios for some reason Axios is like a direct hotline to to

1:10:33 the White House. Yeah. I'm not sure why.

1:10:36 Why it matters? The his this is the historic deal would more than double US oil reserves by drawing from a country that has the world's largest proven reserves.

1:10:46 And then the oil Baron says, Trump's sigh up to keep oil price down LOL.

1:10:52 And I believe it. I believe that's exactly what that is. Well, all that oil in Venezuela was developed by American companies

1:11:00 and was actually owned by American

1:11:03 companies. And I'm gonna get the companies wrong, but

1:11:06 there were two companies that Well, Chevron was one. Chevron, and they

1:11:10 they actually bought that. They paid for all the infrastructure. They

1:11:14 put it all in. That was their oil, and then they had to pay a fee to, you know, Venezuela got a share of it. And, the Venezuelans took it over, and, when, they had their little revolution,

1:11:27 and they kicked out all the operators in these,

1:11:30 refineries,

1:11:32 and, they said we can do it ourselves. Well, guess what? They couldn't.

1:11:37 And, so a lot of their equipment just went south. Mhmm. And, I spent some time up in

1:11:44 Maracaibo is where the the the Big Bay is where they did a lot of oil. You were there? Yeah. Yeah. What what were you doing there? I was traveling.

1:11:52 Careful now. Yes.

1:11:55 Working on my import export business. Sounds kind of spooky to me, Matt. I don't know what business you were in. But, yeah. And, it was it was a horrible looking,

1:12:05 place. I mean, it was like out of some kind of sci fi movie. The Derek's were kind of all tipping over and it was, very very bizarre All the experts left. They had to leave the country and the whole thing fell apart. Absolutely. So us taking it back, I don't we're

1:12:21 just getting it back to the original owners.

1:12:24 I mean, that's really what it is. You we just found some stolen property and we've got a guy big enough to go in and take our stolen property So I don't have problem with it at all. Amen to that.

1:12:36 You're a car guy. I mean, all all Texans are car and truck guys.

1:12:41 And I don't think

1:12:43 I mean, when I was growing up, I remember we always used to have long conversation or my dad would have long conversations with other dads

1:12:51 about tires.

1:12:54 Buying

1:12:55 tires was a conversation.

1:12:57 I don't think that do you remember those days when people would just talk about tires you got? I'm gonna get new tires. I mean, these days I mean, does anyone really talk about tires that much anymore? Or you just buy a car and, you know, I was like, you

1:13:11 know, maybe it's, you know, it's a eight year old car and the tires are little worn, you could literally go down to the tire. What's it called? Like Tires R Us? Yes. Seven day tires, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. You have a cup of coffee and they put new tires on. You don't even ask and just like put some new tires on. But do you remember the the conversations

1:13:28 about different kinds of tires?

1:13:31 I guess I don't.

1:13:32 You Really? I don't don't remember any tire

1:13:35 conversations. Well, I was on the East Coast, maybe maybe it was more of an East Coast thing, but it was always and there was a whole bunch of reasons and which tire was better and you wanna have actually, when I was in college for three months in West Virginia, I remember that was a big conversation because what tires you're gonna have for the winter, you wanna have all round tires.

1:13:53 Round tires. And I I would want round ones, like, you know, ones that that work.

1:13:58 And so as a part of the the midterm

1:14:04 psyop from California,

1:14:06 they've they've put in new rules and regulations for tires.

1:14:10 And and I was like, what is going on with this? And of course, Gavin Newsom is very happy about it, and so we'll break down exactly what is going on with this. I think it was a good choice. Governor Gavin Newsom speaking for the first time on new tire regulations, the California Energy Commission or CEC

1:14:27 unanimously approved earlier this week. Thank you everybody. At an unrelated press conference. Wow. What a nap pop that was. It's a great nap pop. Let's hear that again.

1:14:36 Moved earlier this week. Thank you, everybody. At an unrelated press conference in Hayward, just south of Oakland on Wednesday, Newsom said he supported the new rules, rules that will require most replacement tires for passenger cars and light duty trucks to meet stricter energy efficiency standards. Those new standards will be phased in with the first requirements taking effect in 2029

1:14:57 and then tougher standards beginning in 2033.

1:15:01 The governor says his administration backs the rules saying they will reduce the energy needed to move cars,

1:15:07 in turn saving drivers money on fuel, all while cutting emissions. Look, the ROI is pretty good.

1:15:14 Return on investment. I'm, you know, back to just facts. Facts. You said a billion dollars a year in fuel. You talk about affordability agenda. That makes some sense to me. There it is, the affordability agenda. So this is clearly a midterm

1:15:28 SIOP. Now it doesn't really go in until

1:15:30 01/01/2029,

1:15:33 but here's what it's about. It's the replacement

1:15:36 tire efficiency

1:15:37 program,

1:15:39 the California Energy Commission. So this is a climate change initiative

1:15:43 Of which is just amazing.

1:15:45 And it has to do that so passenger

1:15:48 car replacement tires must meet a maximum

1:15:52 rolling resistance

1:15:53 coefficient

1:15:55 Okay. RRC

1:15:56 of nine point o n k n.

1:16:00 I don't know exactly what that is. Then they have phase two

1:16:04 where the ceiling drops from nine point o to 7.1.

1:16:07 So this is how

1:16:09 efficient your car tires roll

1:16:12 Mhmm. On the road,

1:16:13 which of course has huge

1:16:16 implications

1:16:17 for

1:16:18 weather,

1:16:19 speed,

1:16:20 turning.

1:16:22 Mhmm. Mhmm. So they have to so the the the the what's called the wet grip.

1:16:29 It's like, what in the world? So they have to change go from rubber

1:16:34 to high silica and functionalized

1:16:37 polymer compounds?

1:16:39 This this sounds like a horrible idea to and EVs,

1:16:44 most of them in California, they eat up tires 30% more, you know, like, will you be able to brake the same? You know, can will you get acceleration?

1:16:52 Do your tires spin out? I mean, this sounds like a bunch of idiots just want to put something in there to, you know,

1:17:00 to placate the climate crazies,

1:17:02 and it doesn't sound like a good idea.

1:17:06 You know, the only concern I have about that is can you get them in white walls? California Energy Commissioner Nancy Skinner acknowledged Matt will be here all week, everybody. Under the new regulations,

1:17:16 about 70%

1:17:18 of the tires currently sold in California will not be legal to sell come 2033,

1:17:23 but she also stresses tire manufacturers

1:17:25 have seven years between now and then to come up with new types of tires to sell, tires Skinner believes will ultimately benefit consumers.

1:17:32 We'll ensure that the tires sold in 2029 will be the same quality

1:17:38 and just as good as the tires that are on your brand new car when you drive it off the lot. Just as good. Just as good. So it's only for replacement tires. So, you know, buy a new car and you get the good tires, I guess, to replace and of course, with California, this is what we learned from from John.

1:17:55 It's like the reason we have crazy expensive diesel is because of the sulfur content that California demands.

1:18:02 And, you know, like, we're not gonna make

1:18:04 one diesel for California and a different one for everybody else. So we have to deal with their regulations and that may be the same. If if all the tire if how many tire companies there are? If all the tire companies, you know, get on board with this, we're gonna get these crap tires?

1:18:21 You know, I think a lot of tire companies just won't do business in California, or at least a couple of them won't. I mean, if they've got the rest of the country to sell their tires to,

1:18:30 I just

1:18:31 just don't do business in California.

1:18:34 I mean, what is California's motto? We're from the government and we're here to help. Is that is that their motto?

1:18:40 We've got the government designing tires.

1:18:42 This is this is a problem. Excellent. And Bridgestone tires said they hope to work with the California Energy Commission God, traders. Bridgestone traders. To ensure the new regulations take effect smoothly. But other tire manufacturers

1:18:55 and industry groups have argued the rules could limit consumer choice and lead to significantly higher costs for replacement tires after the tougher standards take effect.

1:19:05 A coalition of tire companies earlier this year sent the commission this letter urging it not to adopt the regulations amid concerns over high costs. Republican state senator Tony Strickland of Huntington Beach, meantime, argues the new rules are government overreach. There's a lot of families that are living paycheck to paycheck,

1:19:22 and they can't afford these kind of, regulations.

1:19:25 In fact, these board, directors,

1:19:28 are the modern day Marie Antoinette.

1:19:30 They don't care

1:19:31 that they're really driving people out of the state of California. You'd be wise to,

1:19:37 take advantage of new efficient tires, lower your cost at the pump, tire manufacturers,

1:19:43 the vast majority came on board, one notable one did not. But from a consumer perspective,

1:19:48 the savings is is is self evident. And so I think it was a good choice in that respect. I wonder who didn't come on board. Oh, know. I've already got that in my notes. They're they're gonna be my new favorite tire company.

1:20:00 That's Let's find let's find out. Book of knowledge, which tire company is not participating in California's new tire regulations?

1:20:09 I love my book of knowledge. Oh, it's great. Yeah.

1:20:13 Let's see.

1:20:15 According to the book of knowledge, Goodyear and Dunlop opposed California's

1:20:19 new replacement tire efficiency program Dunlop. While Michelin and Bridgestone supported it.

1:20:26 Good year. Yeah.

1:20:27 It has been written written. So good year. Nice. I wrote in the blimp once. Really? Yeah. Man, that would I that's a trip I'd like to take in Dublin. It was pretty cool. It was very cool. I I missed an opportunity when Budweiser had had a blimp. Mhmm. I missed that opportunity.

1:20:43 But I I like blimps. I think that, you know, they're a pain in the butt to land.

1:20:49 You gotta have 18 people on the ground grabbing ropes with it. It's a pretty cool mode of transport. It was really you know, but when was the Hindenburg? Nineteen o eight? I don't know. I can't remember. But, you know, we had buildings that had airship docks Docks on top of them. New York had them all over the place. Yeah. And and it was, you know, it was slow, but it was luxurious,

1:21:10 and you had big sleeper cabins. You know, the only problem was, you know, they exploded,

1:21:14 but, you know, we had we helium was hard to get back in the day, you know, so did Pentos.

1:21:18 So it was, you know It's a fine American tradition of exploding transportation.

1:21:23 Yes. You know, but the Goodyear blimp, it's got a cockpit that I think is about the size of your studio here. Mhmm.

1:21:32 And it is

1:21:33 noisy as Oh, because the because everything's right there and Mhmm. It's just this tiny little compartment.

1:21:40 But,

1:21:41 yeah. I think a blimp would be a cool way to go across the country without a doubt. A lot of these Silicon Valley guys have tried to resurrect that several times. I'm not sure what the status is, you know. I think everyone changed investing into

1:21:54 airships as they're known. They're not blimps, airships, into flying cars which, you know, the flying car is gonna be like the paperless office, you know, or the paperless toilet maybe. Mhmm. I can't wait to get one. You haven't seen my garage, but I have a spot for it. I for some reason, we have a three car garage.

1:22:11 We don't have three cars, but that's where my flying car will go if it ever comes out. Alright. You know, Gene, sir Gene is always sending me these these videos. YouTube's like, look at this man. It's here. It's coming. This is it. The flying car. I say, have you looked at the specs? You can you can fly exactly 60 miles an hour for twenty minutes. If I can't get to Austin and land in your backyard, it's not worth it. And also, if I have to recharge for twenty four hours before I can fly home,

1:22:39 the power to rate ratio is a whole thing. Mhmm.

1:22:44 Lot of complaints about

1:22:46 h one b visas.

1:22:48 I think pretty much everybody who listens to the show has a complaint about it. A lot of my friends who work in technology companies,

1:22:55 their their biggest complaint is they've been overrun by Indians.

1:22:59 Mhmm.

1:23:00 All h one b,

1:23:02 they bring in more h one b. It's filled with fraud.

1:23:06 The also the sorry Brahmins, but the Brahmins are really racist or classist, I should say. Mhmm. And it's just a mess and no one wants to work there anymore.

1:23:15 And it seems like there's going to be some crackdown on this finally,

1:23:20 which is another part of the how about let's get Americans back to work. And the first is the new fee,

1:23:26 which Okay. Which just came I'm sure not about the number, but, this is probably a good idea. The Trump administration is moving to codify a new fee for h one b worker visas that costs more than a $103,000.

1:23:39 Boom. In a filing today, the Department of Homeland Security said some of the revenue would be used to help fund the nation's immigration courts and ICE.

1:23:46 Earlier this summer, a judge in Massachusetts struck down a similar temporary fee. The h one b program allows US companies to hire tens of thousands of foreign workers each year. President Trump has argued it takes jobs away from Americans, but many companies say it's needed to recruit top talent,

1:24:03 especially in tech and research. Yeah. Which is just bullcrap. They all get their education here.

1:24:09 They come over from India, get their education here, and then get an h one b, and then they're working.

1:24:14 Do you do you do you know why the tech industry is it is it really a labor shortage? No. It's cost. It's cost. Cost. So there's no it's not labor shortage

1:24:25 It

1:24:26 it initially, it was cost. Of course, there are a lot of really highly educated and just mainly Indians, I would say.

1:24:35 But then, you know, Indians hire Indian Indians and they got, you know, this whole h one b farms and, you know, like like, Pat, you know,

1:24:44 I hate to sound racist, but, you know, one guy looks like the other on the on the passport photo,

1:24:50 you know, Rajeev.

1:24:51 And so that just permeates. The fraud is is known, is well known. Everybody complains about it. It's and I don't care, you know, you can come here and become an American and work here. That's fantastic. But the Right. But the specific visas part of it is a scam. And there's another thing,

1:25:09 the state department is now going to revoke a lot of the

1:25:14 the one b visas, which I presume is a one b

1:25:18 There's a couple of different one b's, hospitality,

1:25:22 agriculture,

1:25:23 and business. The US government is preparing to revoke the business and tourism visas of up to 200,000

1:25:30 foreigners

1:25:31 who have applied for or are currently seeking asylum status. If this happens, it'll be the largest mass revocation of visas in US history and would likely face legal challenges.

1:25:42 State department documents attained by the Associated Press say the revocation will take place in the coming weeks on b one and b two visas issued between 2016 and 2026

1:25:54 and will be done in coordination with the Department of Homeland Security. B one visas are generally issued for business trips, and b two visas are generally issued for tourism,

1:26:03 family visits, or medical care.

1:26:06 Current applicants for b one and b two visas are asked to affirm that they will not apply for asylum in The United States and prove that they intend to return to their home countries.

1:26:16 Since president Donald Trump took office for his second term last year, his administration has steadily ramped up restrictions on visa applicants,

1:26:23 demanding more information about their social media histories, requiring the posting of expensive bonds for the processing of visas,

1:26:33 and outright banning the issuance of visas to citizens of certain countries.

1:26:37 Yeah.

1:26:38 All they gotta do is marry an American. No. They're cracking down on that too. They they just rolled up a whole

1:26:44 Chinese ring. They've been doing that for a decade. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I had a friend in, Ecuador

1:26:49 who, needed to marry an Ecuadorian to get her, to stay in the country to keep her business going.

1:26:56 And she worked out a deal with a young, teenage boy in the village there.

1:27:02 Boom. And so he,

1:27:04 she said, well, is there you know, do you want something? He wanted a basketball.

1:27:08 So she got her a basketball and a a husband. She gave, him basketball and she got a husband and as far as I know still lives there. You know,

1:27:18 I'm I'm all for making it, you know, putting levels into getting into our country.

1:27:24 You know, at one point,

1:27:26 I don't and this is when I was living in Europe.

1:27:29 Like,

1:27:30 maybe I should go move to Australia. That might be interesting. Because I'd visited Australia, did a documentary in 1990. Now this is before they went completely woke.

1:27:38 Not not all provinces or states, I guess you call them, like Queensland is is still pretty okay.

1:27:46 And I I looked into it and at the time, and I don't think it's changed much, you had to either be a literal rocket scientist

1:27:55 Okay. Or have $5,000,000.

1:27:57 Okay. Now that's 5,000,000

1:28:00 Australian dollars, so I don't know if that's maybe $9.50 here. Dollar reduce. A buck $50

1:28:05 reduce now. But, you know, yeah, that I'm I'm I agree with that. Make it harder. I mean, or put a put a limit of reason for you to come here, not just

1:28:15 come in. This is what destroyed Europe, completely destroyed Europe.

1:28:20 It's crazy. And you've been telling a lot of us recently that

1:28:24 we're not on the same path of destruction

1:28:27 with our immigrants coming in as quick as Europe was. For this very reason. Yeah. You know, president Trump closed the borders. Your boy, Tom Holden, enforced it. No. That we're not.

1:28:40 You know, of course, you know, as part of the midterm push,

1:28:44 you know, let's all extremely worried about Muslims.

1:28:47 Mhmm. There's absolutely problems with Islam. There's absolutely imams doing podcasts and we're gonna, you know, they've absolutely had a plan since 1991.

1:28:56 Absolutely. But it's still 1% of the population. Right. And you haven't quite overrun us yet.

1:29:03 You know, every time I talk about Islam on my program,

1:29:07 which seems to be quite often recently is I always have to start with that caveat

1:29:12 that I know they're bad, I know they're they don't even culturally

1:29:16 fit in here. No. I mean, just everything right down the line,

1:29:20 and yet I can still then I then I can talk about it because anything I seem to say, if I don't put the caveat in there, it's like, oh, you're pro Islam. It's like, no, I'm not. But,

1:29:32 we've,

1:29:32 yeah, we do have to be careful, but at the same time, this is not London overnight. It's not Paris. No. Over not overnight. In London,

1:29:40 you know, the the main

1:29:42 source of Muslims is Indians. And why?

1:29:46 Because I forget

1:29:48 which prime minister was it.

1:29:50 It was oh, man. I should know this. We've talked about him.

1:29:55 The prime minister, I think before Thatcher

1:29:58 I

1:29:59 can't remember the guy's name. It's something with an h.

1:30:02 He said, hey, you know, if we colonize you, you have a right to to come to England. Oh.

1:30:09 Heath. I think it was Heath. Heath. Okay. Yeah. And and so the Indians went straight up, bro. Mhmm. And the Pakistanis

1:30:17 and all kinds of, colonies came in and that's where that that's where that came from. So I can you and I could go and live in in, London then and be allowed to stay because we were colonized as well. Good luck with that.

1:30:32 That won't fly? Shall I get your one way ticket? You know, I'd be happy to send you off there, man. No problem at all. So you you get these countries like The Netherlands and they just let I mean, the Moroccans we have we had Muslims in in The Netherlands for decades.

1:30:47 We didn't call them Muslims, they were Indonesians.

1:30:50 Number one

1:30:51 country

1:30:52 of of Muslim religion,

1:30:54 faith,

1:30:55 Islamic political, yeah, ideology, whatever you wanna call it, they call themselves Muslims,

1:31:00 is Indonesia.

1:31:01 Number one. Mhmm. The Netherlands famous for its Indonesian restaurants.

1:31:06 We love Indonesian food.

1:31:08 Never had a problem with the in as they call them the Indos. The Indos. In fact, it was okay to call them Indos. You can't do that anymore. After

1:31:15 that came the Turks, and that was part of a guest worker program in the seventies and they had to really start building up

1:31:23 the country because it was a lot of it was destroyed and so it was we needed guest workers to come in, just weren't enough people in the country.

1:31:30 Now, as a sideline to that, you had the Moluccas.

1:31:33 And the Moluccas didn't get a good deal.

1:31:36 And they also got colonized and and you know, and treated poorly by the Dutch. Because the Dutch,

1:31:42 were no good, man. They they transported all the slaves. I mean, they they were the ship faring nation.

1:31:46 So the Molokers got all pissed off in the seventies and they started hijacking trains. Do you remember this? They were hijacking trains in The Netherlands. Oh, yeah. How do you hijack a train? They literally would hijack and it would be on TV for days. Oh, no. And they would have hostages and then, you know, the the special forces would go in and several hostages got killed. It was and was always the maluckers.

1:32:07 Wow. Never Muslims, maluckers.

1:32:09 Then came the Turks. Turks, you know, there was a little bit of racism against the Turks, but they integrated pretty well. And now you have a lot of Turkish, Dutch, you know, cross breeding families and

1:32:23 they didn't really have the cuisine that added much to the culture, but they were there for so long, they helped build it, not a problem. By the way, Muslims.

1:32:31 Then came the Moroccans.

1:32:33 And these were not the Moroccans in,

1:32:36 you know, in in the big cities,

1:32:39 you know, like Marrakesh.

1:32:40 Have you do know have you ever been to Marrakesh? I have not. Dude, it's like the most modern city in the world. Really? It is like Singapore on steroids. Wow. Just beautiful buildings,

1:32:52 beautiful like shopping malls better than than UAE.

1:32:56 Just fantastic.

1:32:57 It wasn't those Moroccans. No. They sent over the ones from the mountains

1:33:02 and they came over. Now,

1:33:05 Muslims? Yeah. You know, they they have Ramadan and they have some, you know, slowly

1:33:11 the halal stores crept in and people didn't really push back. And then, of course, they started to get into government because people have app are apathetic and don't go and vote.

1:33:21 They run the drugs.

1:33:23 Mhmm. All the drugs. You it used to cost

1:33:26 probably

1:33:28 if you wanted to kill somebody now I grew up in this country, I know a lot of weird things. If you wanted to kill someone, you know, you're probably $1,510,000

1:33:35 euros. Now, 500. Wow. And they do it on mopeds.

1:33:40 Yep. They drive by, poof, they shoot you, machine guns, everything, run all the drugs throughout all of Europe to the Port Of Rotterdam. Rotterdam where my daughter lives,

1:33:49 she

1:33:50 she had to move out to a different area. Mhmm. I'm like, you should move out to Tennessee,

1:33:55 is what I keep telling her. That's that's far Southwest

1:33:58 of Holland.

1:33:59 Right? She she doesn't listen to me. But again,

1:34:02 it wasn't a Muslim problem until

1:34:06 it's almost like

1:34:07 someone told them, hey,

1:34:09 don't forget your Muslims. Oh. Yeah. Whoops. So all these years, it never was an issue, but some of it has to do with Israel.

1:34:17 Mhmm. And the extreme

1:34:19 hate of Israel in in The Netherlands

1:34:24 where, you know, Anne Frank, Curry and Bohm, these are famous Jewish stories from from second world war.

1:34:33 The hate is unbelievable.

1:34:35 And of course, a lot of it is because look at who's living in Amsterdam. Look at who's living in Rotterdam. You know, they burn

1:34:42 Israeli flags. Now, this I'm not saying anything about Netanyahu

1:34:47 or the current I don't give a crap. You know, Gaza, okay. Well, that's this is not a problem that was just been recently.

1:34:54 You know, there's this is all psyops to, you know, to highlight genocide.

1:34:59 There's been a lot of genocides no one seemed to care about. This one people care about.

1:35:04 And so now the latest,

1:35:06 this is amazing,

1:35:07 is the Eurovision Song Contest.

1:35:09 Yes.

1:35:10 I've never paid attention to it till I started listening to No Agenda.

1:35:15 And the and and I've been watching the Eurovision Song Contest since 1972

1:35:20 when Abba won with Waterloo.

1:35:22 And and, you know, and and and the I think the Dutch have won four or five times and it is a cultural phenomenon.

1:35:29 And it's from the European Broadcasting

1:35:31 Union, the EBU,

1:35:33 which by itself is weird because why is Australia in there and why is Israel in there? And then there's all kinds of ways people say, well, but they're technically a part of Europe. Okay. Geographically,

1:35:46 I'm not seeing it, but whatever.

1:35:48 So

1:35:49 ever

1:35:50 really

1:35:51 since

1:35:54 even before Gaza,

1:35:56 there was already people calling for

1:35:58 Israel to be boycott, kick them out, we don't want them in the Eurovision song contest.

1:36:03 And now it's flipped,

1:36:05 and now

1:36:06 countries are pulling out of the Eurovision song contest. And I'm joined by Joshua Suess. He's a Eurovision expert and journalist for Omerob kettle. I wish I could be paid as a Eurovision expert for you. There you go. What a job that will be. And in Arnhem in The Netherlands.

1:36:22 Now, Netherlands are boycotting. Is this the biggest crisis that Eurovision has ever faced?

1:36:28 Yeah. I would like to think so. It's a really big crisis. It's a crisis. Of course, the Eurovision has always been political. Since the beginning. It was made to make peace in Europe,

1:36:37 but it's never been so polarising and dividing as it is now.

1:36:43 Everybody's thinking something of it. A lot of countries are boycotting it. It's a big crisis.

1:36:48 And,

1:36:49 yeah, it could be like a negative

1:36:51 downfall of the contest for sure.

1:36:54 It's a big crisis.

1:36:56 A downfall.

1:36:57 So negative. Everything's falling falling apart. How would how much would people lose if Eurovision

1:37:04 went away?

1:37:05 I mean, what would that, you know I mean, I know I mean, it's kind of a facetious question, but I think the thing is that this is one of these cultural

1:37:14 events that kind of keeps Europe together. Okay. Right. They they like, it's kind of like we're the European Union even though it goes far beyond the European Union.

1:37:23 And and it's not just The Netherlands pulling out, but the other big ones are pulling out. And I think this could start

1:37:31 in a funny way. I'm just calling it as a possible Red Book prediction,

1:37:35 that this could be the

1:37:37 breaking up of the European Union over cultural things like this. Wow. Now, Spain has said it would not broadcast the contest or

1:37:46 the semifinals

1:37:47 in Vienna next year, describing the process of decision making as insufficient

1:37:52 and engendering

1:37:54 distrust.

1:37:55 What do they what do they mean by that?

1:37:57 They are not the only one. Ireland is also not broadcasting it. I think what I mean is because they think the changes that are being made, that's what they voted on yesterday. So they voted on

1:38:11 having a more juries and changing the number of votes you can make. And I

1:38:16 They're changing they're rigging the whole the whole thing was rigged anyway.

1:38:20 You know, it's all favoritism.

1:38:22 Countries voted for their neighbors, you know, Belgium and The Netherlands would vote. No no one voted for The UK.

1:38:28 Like, England

1:38:30 is always last with no votes. I mean, they won once I think with brotherhood of man,

1:38:36 save all your kisses for me. Why do I know this stuff? Cause I'm an unpaid Eurovision expert, Matt. I think they find that too less of a change to keep the trust in the EBU that they are independent,

1:38:49 not supporting Israel in any way or giving them

1:38:52 special

1:38:53 treatments.

1:38:54 And I think they

1:38:56 just don't trust the EBU that they are really independent.

1:39:00 And I think

1:39:02 for the fans, it's very sad that the broadcaster will not broadcast it, but they can watch it on YouTube as well. So here's the funny thing. So this is the European broadcast unions, all the public broadcasters,

1:39:14 because all these all these countries have government

1:39:18 broadcasting

1:39:18 organizations.

1:39:19 Mhmm. And

1:39:21 it's, you know, just like the BBC,

1:39:23 funded a little bit differently, but it that's it's it's from the people. It's supposed to be apolitical and for the people in every single country. It's extremely left wing, very biased,

1:39:34 and and it's a very expensive thing.

1:39:37 The European Broadcast Union, they're not going to broadcast it in these countries, but now they're putting it on YouTube?

1:39:44 Yeah. It's

1:39:45 like Get rid of the whole thing. We don't So you lose your own so you're just you're cutting your own throat. Yes. I'm assuming there's advertising that goes in with these. Is there money that's made by broadcasting it? You asked because they Was that a good question? That's a

1:39:59 it's close to a great question, but no. It's a good question. They

1:40:03 have one sponsor. You might be surprised.

1:40:06 Now Spain is, of course, one of the biggest contributors

1:40:10 financially, and without its participation and other nations like The Netherlands and Ireland

1:40:16 pulling up, what will be the effect on this event?

1:40:20 Yeah. It's very hard to say now

1:40:22 because there are, yeah, The Netherlands is the sixth biggest contributor and money wise, Spain is, of course, one of the big five. So they will lose a lot of money, but they keep

1:40:33 the biggest sponsor, Moroccan Oil, now.

1:40:36 So it's hard to say what will happen. They got three countries back, Moldova, Bulgaria and Romania.

1:40:42 So I think they tried to compensate the loss that was expected to happen a little bit. But I think you could see a lot of the rising

1:40:52 Did you hear it? The oil? Moroccan

1:40:55 oil. I heard oil and I didn't hear what was before it. Moroccan

1:40:59 oil. Could it be any more anti Israel to

1:41:04 oil sponsor?

1:41:06 Do you think that had anything to do with it by any chance? Oh. Is it possible? No. Of course not. That's a you're just a that's just a crackpot theory. I'm telling you that this is going to be the beginning. Mark this, the Eurovision song contest breaking apart, people not broadcasting it, moving to YouTube

1:41:24 is going to be the end of the European Union. It this will be the the crack, the very first crack. I can just feel it. It's it's

1:41:31 you can't understand it. It's like Super Bowl. Mhmm. It's like Super Bowl in America. Really? Okay. Very much so. Yeah. And it it was just fun. It was just fun to to have see the votes coming in and yelling and saying, oh, those guys are just voting for them. You know, it used to be, you see Ukraine and Russia voting against each other, you know, zero no points

1:41:56 for Russia from Ukraine and vice versa. Russia used to be in it.

1:42:02 It used to be in the Olympics. It used to be in all kinds of they used to be in the g eight.

1:42:07 G seven plus one maybe. Yeah. So the

1:42:13 This

1:42:14 happened to you twice now, Matt. This I know what it's from. The seventies. Yes. It's exactly where it's from.

1:42:21 Matt and I were sharing bong stories earlier.

1:42:25 We both are avid vapers now, which I I just love. We're just sitting here vaping away in the studio. It's fantastic. What do what do you rocking there? What's your rig? Oh, it is mine. I think I have the same as yours. I'm not sure what it is. You got a geek vape. Geek vape. Yeah. I just have an older model. I went to a what is this?

1:42:43 I'm so blind now.

1:42:45 This is the

1:42:47 It's a little smaller than mine. The Aspire. Okay.

1:42:51 Aspire. Okay. Okay. I'm familiar with them. Do you build your own coil? No. I heard you when you said that a while back and I was thinking, what an idiot.

1:43:01 Gotta yeah, man. You gotta wind your own coil, use American cotton.

1:43:05 Do you pull out an old t shirt or where

1:43:08 where do you get this American cotton? You buy it in a bag called the it's called bacon. Cotton cotton bacon. Okay.

1:43:16 It was funny. When when we were stopped at the border coming back two times ago, we were stopped we stopped in

1:43:23 I can't it might have been

1:43:26 Minneapolis,

1:43:27 think. We, you know, we we came in and then from Minneapolis over to Texas.

1:43:32 And for some reason, you know, we have the the global entry

1:43:35 Mhmm. Which is like, you know, it's Oh, yeah. Know what it is. Literally face scan like Yep. Hey, mister and missus Curry. Yeah. Okay. You're good to go. And then we're standing there waiting for our luggage and you could see one of those feds walking around. He's like, excuse me. You know, I was like, can I see your passports? I'm like, well, this is interesting. Like, I use my passport.

1:43:55 And then, okay. And then we we're ready to go out and then two more customs agents come up and we got our suitcases and he's like,

1:44:03 where are you folks from? I said, you know, we just got spoken to by your colleague. I mean, do we look like international diamond smugglers? Oh, last thing to say. He he was like so mad at me. He's like, why don't you come over here, sir? Do have any cash on you? Yeah. Got like $40. Can you need some? Let me know. It's like and so I I think they're because they kept mentioning cash like, okay, open up my computer bag, you know, my studio bag basically.

1:44:26 And in there is the bacon.

1:44:29 Okay. And

1:44:30 it says bacon on the side. Is it is this an agricultural product? Oh, good lord. No.

1:44:36 It's it's cotton. What do you need cotton for for my vape?

1:44:41 They were really nice about it. Tina was mad. Like, don't make these jokes, man. Don't do this. I said, but come

1:44:46 on. It's like the whole thing is hilarious. We got we got we're not smuggling anything. If I was smuggling something, I'd be a little quieter, obviously.

1:44:54 You know, I used to collect beach sand at different beaches I would go to because the sands are all very cool. Right? Why does this not surprise me that long? So Beach sand. So I am, flying in from Columbia into Miami and, they're going through my bags. Oh, and the worst thing that could ever happen was the girl working behind the count, but working where I got pulled up. This was Houston, not Miami, Houston. And, she looks at me and she goes,

1:45:21 we went to high school together, didn't we? And I went, oh, crap. Yes.

1:45:25 I listen. Let me tell you. I could not have smuggled a cat's fart in on that. She knew me from high school. They turned over everything, and they find the one little container

1:45:35 of white sand from a beach in Colombia.

1:45:40 They I

1:45:41 had Colombian white. Yes.

1:45:44 White. And she's, what's this? I said, it's sand. And boy, immediately these people come over and they took it off and I guess they chemically analyzed it somewhere. Yeah. And about twenty minutes later, they come back and hand me my sand back short a few grains. I had waited.

1:45:58 And they

1:46:00 they they said it was, it was okay. It was sand. I said, thank you very much.

1:46:06 Anyway,

1:46:07 I don't even know how we got on that tangent.

1:46:11 Vaping. And by the way, I'm gonna put it out there. I was a heavy smoker for many many years. Me too. And I tried I mean, I tried everything.

1:46:20 I think I'd never tried hypnosis,

1:46:23 but I tried everything about quitting smoking that ever anybody had ever come up with.

1:46:28 And nothing ever worked for a short period would never work. Yeah. And, when I decided to try the vape and it was our good friend, Jerry. Jerry. Rest in peace,

1:46:38 Mhmm. And, and I went in there and Jerry

1:46:42 and, his wife.

1:46:44 I knew you were gonna say that. Oh goodness. Not Mary. No. No. She had a common name.

1:46:50 They'll come to me. So they were

1:46:52 hippies. Yeah. Hippies from California

1:46:55 and they were in their seventies

1:46:57 and their mission literally

1:46:59 was to get people off of smoking cigarettes. Yeah. And that's why they opened the vape shop. And so I go in there and, they fixed me all up and and Adam, I tell you, I did not pick up a cigarette even after that, even once. Yeah. Now we've got a guy at the, our one of our main engineers up at the studio.

1:47:18 He's a smoker

1:47:19 and I love it. His little cubicle or his little

1:47:22 Smells all box smoky. Oh, man. And he well, no, he smokes outside.

1:47:27 So Oh, Mike comes in with I'll come in. I'll and I'll I'll be heading in in the morning sometime and I can smell Bob over there. I love the smell of tobacco smoke. I love it. That's and so this is one thing that we connected on very early that we were both roll your own guys and of course, I'd roll up the tobacco with weed. I mean, I was I was wake and bake for Very European. Most of my life.

1:47:52 And but I stopped because of the my maverick,

1:47:57 my my periodontist.

1:47:59 He called me. I've become really good friends with him. He's a pilot. That's how we kinda connected.

1:48:03 And he called me a week before my first procedure,

1:48:06 which was the extraction phase.

1:48:08 You know, I have just these beautiful new teeth. Mhmm. I mean, don't you think? Oh, they're they're gorgeous, folks. Gorgeous.

1:48:16 And he said, Adam,

1:48:17 it's Mitch.

1:48:18 Hey, man. Can you stop putting fire in your face for a week? Because

1:48:22 it's it's it's really it's gonna make my my job harder and it's gonna be harder for you to heal. And I'd I'd put down tobacco and weed and never never touch it again.

1:48:32 I I I don't crave it. I mean, the vaping,

1:48:36 it's

1:48:37 of course, it is an electronic nicotine delivery system. There's no doubt about that.

1:48:43 And I think it's more just,

1:48:45 you know, I miss that rolling. That's why I like doing the coil. I miss the rolling Mhmm. The whole process,

1:48:51 you know, thinking about it, you know, and then sparking it up and letting it go out and sparking it up again. And something about the vape satisfies

1:49:00 those movements and just don't know what to do with my hands. Well, we can say it. It's an oral fixation.

1:49:06 That's all it is. There it is. But but I I love these people say, you know, you're gonna die from vaping. I'm like, you really haven't done the research on all the different aspects of vaping. Mhmm. You know, and well, yeah, it's really bad. It's worse than smoking like,

1:49:20 no. You get those people? Oh, I absolutely do. What do what do you say? Shut up. Exactly.

1:49:26 No. I have one line. I gave up all my hard drugs, I gave up alcohol.

1:49:31 Nobody has taken my caffeine or my nicotine away from me. I will go to the grave with a with a vape. Maybe, I don't know, maybe I'll have a cigarette. If I know I'm on my way out, go over bum one from Bob.

1:49:43 But, you know,

1:49:45 I have to tell you that,

1:49:47 no, I've there's a lot of things that that I have enjoyed in my life that I gave up for good healthy reasons. Yeah. And I'm I'm gonna by God, I'm gonna hang on to some of them. I'm with you, brother. I'm with you. Since since we're on cultural trip here for a moment, Dolly Parton, I first of all,

1:50:05 Tim Curry passed away 80. Mhmm. The

1:50:09 number of times someone has said to me, hi, Tim.

1:50:13 You know, I can't count.

1:50:16 And so

1:50:17 maybe that'll end now finally, because people think, that can't be Tim Curry because he's dead.

1:50:24 But I wasn't really a Rocky Horror fan. What other stuff has he done? He'd been in a lot of different things, not just rock. He was known for it must what a bummer that must have been to only be remembered for Rocky Horror. For the transgender

1:50:36 dance that he did.

1:50:38 But he was pretty ugly. You know, I I appreciate his Pretty ugly.

1:50:45 I appreciate the work he did as Pennywise.

1:50:48 I thought he was Right.

1:50:49 Yes. We've had several Pennywises.

1:50:52 Yes. And, I think he was one of the best Pennywises.

1:50:55 And, of course, Home Alone two, they've been showing that clip and

1:51:00 that was a pretty funny scene. He's a pretty funny Let let me look at his his body of work. Let me see.

1:51:08 But doesn't Wikipedia always have that?

1:51:10 Yeah. Okay. So man, they don't they don't have a the Wiki page doesn't have a

1:51:16 Oh, Tim Curry performances.

1:51:19 Well, here we go.

1:51:21 Let's see. Seven And he was from the seventies, man. He had okay. He played in buttons in Cinderella

1:51:28 mid well, this is stage

1:51:30 stuff. That's theater. It was a theater. It was from the theater.

1:51:33 Oh, wow. He did a lot of theater stuff.

1:51:35 How about his how about his movies?

1:51:38 Man, he did a film. Okay. Rocky Horror Mhmm. Annie

1:51:43 Mhmm. Never seen Clue Clue

1:51:45 Clue, Hunt for Red October

1:51:48 No. That was a good movie. The Player,

1:51:51 Home Alone two,

1:51:53 Loaded Weapon one.

1:51:55 I wish

1:51:56 I was in that.

1:51:58 Mikhail's Navy?

1:51:59 How about that? Oh, he was Major Vladikov.

1:52:03 Adam's family re oh, played Gomez. That's right. In the Adam's family reunion. Charlie's

1:52:09 Angels, who wasn't in Charlie's Angels?

1:52:12 What else did he do? I still watch Charlie's Angels on Sunday afternoons.

1:52:18 Angels. Hello Angels. Hello

1:52:20 Angels.

1:52:21 He did a lot of TV stuff too.

1:52:23 He would have been someone that would have been really fun to have around the campfire.

1:52:28 Yeah. He just seems like he would be able to tell a story that would just keep you enthralled. I I I don't know. That could be totally wrong on that, but that was my impression of it that he'd be a blast to have over

1:52:41 just to tell us some stories, Tim, you know, and, I think he'd be good. Now you grew up in Texas? You're a full Texas boy? I was born in Abilene, but my folks moved us to Vienna, Austria when I was about 0.5 old. So When when Hitler came to power? Yeah. No. I'm yeah. I'm not that old. 1961.

1:53:01 In fact, we took the Rotterdam

1:53:04 over to To Europe. Sure. And it's now a hotel in It is. Somewhere. I would like to go stay

1:53:10 at that hotel. No. Don't. No. Don't. No. It's not what you think it is. It's not what No, it's not what you think it is. But so we were in Vienna.

1:53:20 In fact, we had ties to Holland. We'd go to Den Haag every

1:53:24 now and then. We had a good friend who was a What did your do going to The Hague? I you know, he was a preacher. I Really? He was a preacher, a missionary. He and, his buddies Well, big fail on Holland. They they

1:53:39 took,

1:53:40 Bibles and literature

1:53:42 in behind the Iron Curtain Wow. During during the sixties.

1:53:48 And so they did a lot of that, but we went to The Hague. In fact,

1:53:52 my my only the the thing I remember about Holland was they had seven Up in Holland and we couldn't get that in Vienna. Seven Up. And the other thing, the most beautiful woman I think I've ever known was a Dutch Indonesian woman

1:54:07 named Leida Catan

1:54:08 who I

1:54:10 even as a kid, I was like, oh my goodness.

1:54:13 Beautiful

1:54:14 Indonesian women. By the way, Dutch,

1:54:17 speaking of colonizations,

1:54:19 the Dutch colonized Indonesia.

1:54:21 Yeah. And in fact, then the Japanese took it away from them. And the and they threw everyone in the Dutch people in the Japanese concentration camps. Okay. Yeah. I knew a lot of kids. Their parents had been in the Yuppa Kump. Oh, wow. They're called the Jap Camp. Wow.

1:54:35 So

1:54:36 yeah. And then, we came to The States when, I guess, I was about 11 or 12 and, we moved to the tiniest little West Texas town in the whole wide world,

1:54:46 a place called O'Donnell,

1:54:48 where they put me in school Mhmm. And I

1:54:51 had never played

1:54:53 football, you know, the not football, but Yes. Football

1:54:57 baseball.

1:54:58 None of those things were familiar with me at all. And I ate with my fork in my left hand and my knife in my right. You know that? You know, the way the proper way, the Emily Post way? Yes. Absolutely.

1:55:10 I got in trouble at at school Really? Because I didn't know how to hold my silverware.

1:55:17 So Your heathen. Yeah. I know. It was

1:55:20 so yeah. And so but I do have memories of Holland, and I grew up reciting

1:55:25 a Dutch

1:55:27 nursery rhyme. When we first met. I remember that's the first thing I asked you. What is it? I don't remember what it was. And

1:55:38 you gotta do these things with your hands. Right?

1:55:41 Yeah.

1:55:42 Nailed it, brother. Alright.

1:55:44 You and Mark Ritter. Yes. Hello.

1:55:47 So I I was leading into a a a an entertainment package of Dolly Parton just because I always liked her. I mean, did you grow up listening to Dolly Parton? I don't think I did. I don't think I I knew obviously knew who she was and I heard her music by accident, but it was not something I would tune in Right. Or buy a a record. As a radio guy, I've played all of because they she had crossed over all the time. They would go top 40 like Jolene, which I despise that song. Mhmm. Now, here's the crazy thing. On the last episode of the No Agenda show, I was talking to Rob Du, you know Rob. Mhmm. So, Duchess.

1:56:23 And and he was talking about the psyop of of

1:56:27 the COVID vaccine.

1:56:28 And I said, yeah, even Dolly Parton was in on it. And I played the clip of her singing vaccine

1:56:33 vaccine.

1:56:34 Really? So this is, you know, you don't wanna mess with a No Agenda show. That's

1:56:39 right. Bad things happen when we dig up old stuff of yours. Mhmm. But I always loved her. I always loved the songs, know, nine to five. There's all these I just wanted to play this as a a short well, it's a longer than normal homage to Dolly Parton. Well, I wanted to be a star, but I always thought of a star more of, as a singing star.

1:57:00 Legendary country music star, businesswoman, actor, and philanthropist Dolly Parton has died.

1:57:07 Sore.

1:57:10 Parton was born one of 12 kids in a one bedroom cabin in East Tennessee.

1:57:15 I was never ashamed of my background even though we grew up very poor. Those humble beginnings would shape her life in music. I think we've become who we are when we're young. By 21, Parton broke into the country billboard charts for the first time with her single Dumb Blonde. A dumb blonde.

1:57:32 Oh, well, somehow I live through it. It was one of the first milestones in a career that spanned seven decades.

1:57:40 She

1:57:41 released over 50 albums, winning 10 Grammys and garnering 55 Grammy nominations, the most ever for a female country artist. Get your scummy hands off of me. Her first of two Oscar nominations for best original song was in 1981 for the song nine to five from her movie of the same name. Working out to five. What a hit. She

1:58:03 received an honorary Oscar Oscar in 2025 for her humanitarian work. It makes me want to dream up new ways to help lift people up.

1:58:10 And isn't that what we're supposed to be here for? In 2024, Rolling Stone magazine ranked her 1973 hit Jolene the number one greatest country song of all

1:58:33 eventually got its own iconic cover. And then Whitney, of course,

1:58:37 made it into a worldwide

1:58:40 hit. Beyond

1:58:47 her music, Parton created a business empire.

1:58:49 Dollywood in the heart of the Smokies. This Opening Dollywood, a theme park near her hometown in East Tennessee that employs thousands and has invigorated the surrounding area. Hundreds and hundreds

1:59:01 of businesses have sprung up and thousands and thousands of jobs. I just really think business. I get that from my dad. Parton supported many charitable causes including childhood literacy through her imagination library. We've officially gifted over 200,000,000

1:59:17 books to children.

1:59:20 Dolly Parton leaves behind more than iconic music. She leaves a legacy of generosity,

1:59:25 humility, and a reminder to be kind to one another. I think everybody should be treated with respect. I hope that everybody gets a chance to be who and what they are. And, you know, she was a real American, man. American success story. Yes, she was. Absolutely.

1:59:40 I really loved her for that. And, you know, Taylor Swift is no Dolly Parton. No. Of course not. Yeah. But there's always that comparison.

1:59:48 Yeah. But it's like, no. No. No. Dolly Parton. And whenever she was on The Tonight Show, those appearances were legendary.

1:59:54 Oh, yeah. Oh, just yeah. Played it off so well. And you know what? Taylor Swift can see her shoes and Dolly Parton was never able to see her shoes. There you go. So there's a big difference.

2:00:06 Let me see, Matt. Let's was there anything else you want? I mean, I have some couple other things here that we haven't handled.

2:00:13 Actually, we should probably

2:00:15 do a quick bit here on

2:00:18 on the latest. We actually talked about this on on your program on Monday, the Matt Long Show, Matt Long Show podcast,

2:00:26 which is a good listen.

2:00:29 You know, how long have you been doing radio?

2:00:32 I'm going into my eighth year. And this is all Hill Country? It is, yeah, the Hill Country. I started out, I I did a call in for a national show a few years before that where I called in and gave them Texas news from the legislature on Tuesdays.

2:00:49 Yeah. And that's when the local radio station heard that and said, we we need we want you to do that for us For free. For free. And then next thing you know, they were offering me a job. Mhmm. And

2:01:02 but they there was nothing to no pay.

2:01:04 There was no pay. That's radio, baby. Yeah. But you're in show business. So I said I said, I'll tell you what, I'll give you six months

2:01:12 and if I add value to you I add value for value. I'm telling you this was before I discovered you guys. Mhmm. But I told him, said, if I'm adding value to your station, then you need to pay me. And if I'm not adding value to your station, then you need to find something that gives you value. I said, so I'll give you six months Mhmm. And it's about a 33 mile drive one way for me to get over there. So it's, know, wear and tear, gas, etcetera.

2:01:38 And, the the owner, called me in at five months,

2:01:42 and his table was clear except for that big checkbook. And he said, what do you want?

2:01:47 And, so I came home and we talked to I talked to Gail about it. And again, no, I've never run a board. I've never done any of that. Nothing.

2:01:57 So this is the thing. When I first the first time you had me on, I come into the I'm like, so first of all, you gotta you're coming down this this one a very dangerous road Uh-huh. When you're driving towards Kerrville. Yep. And you have to turn left on this two lane, 70 mile an hour road. With no view from either end. No. It's like it's like your life is in danger making this left hand turn. You roll up, there's five shipping containers. One of them is the one you're in. He's exaggerating a little bit. No. I am not. I am not. No. There's an office building

2:02:27 Yeah. But no. I'm not. There's five contain no. The country station, which I'm sure is the big one, they have cushy studio They do. Inside They the building. All the other guys get the get the container.

2:02:39 And you're sitting in it, I'm looking at you working the board and everything.

2:02:42 You know, I I used to be a skateboarder back in the day. You ever skateboard? No. And you know the concept of goofy foot? No. So typically on a skateboard or on a surfboard, I guess, your your right foot is back and your left foot is forward. Okay. And some guys just learned how to do it with their left foot back in their front, that's goofy. Okay. And it freaks skateboarders out. And that's when I saw you doing radio. I'm like, man, this is like goofy foot on radio, but he but he's doing it. It's like, it's amazing. Now you're really good at because, you know, you're running your own board and everything. You and I'm just amazed like, how how how did everything work? Because, you know, it just seems like you're the crazy professor.

2:03:20 You're like, and then and you you hit you hit the top of the hour, you hit the news, everything's perfect. It's like, it's a joy watching you goofy foot on the radio. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you. It's a compliment. It really You know, like your typical, you know, watch

2:03:34 me do this more. Poof, boom, boom, boom, boom, pushing all the buttons and I'm because that's what all the radio guys are, you know, like, that's why they put cameras in studios. Yeah. Because the stupid top four Ethics is stupidest thing they ever did. The top 40 jocks want, you know, look how cool it is when I'm when I'm hitting the buttons. It's all this complicated stuff that I'm doing. Man, I'm turning up the volume, turning it down. Oh, yeah. And the minute the the song starts, you know, I stop talking and I throw off my headphones and I go to the Coke machine, I'm right back in time, you know. It's like that's that's what DJs

2:04:03 are and you're the opposite of that. But the result is fantastic. Well, thank you. Thank you.

2:04:08 Do you guys have a camera in the studio? Oh, heavens no and we never will. You're like, it ruins everything. Yeah. It ruins everything. No. This we you know, it's the old line. We have a face for radio and, it's very true. You're good looking man. Not long. Alright. So here here is the latest midterm,

2:04:26 outrage hair on fire that is working quite well in Texas. President Trump hosted tech leaders at the White House to discuss US efforts on cryptocurrency

2:04:34 and artificial intelligence.

2:04:36 Trump says the technology is crucial to create more jobs and beat China, but voters have a different perspective.

2:04:43 NPR's Deepa Shivaram reports. The president argued that if he were the mayor of a town, he would want an AI data center there for the tax benefits. But if I were a governor or mayor, I would want that plant in my community,

2:04:56 and many of them are designed in a very beautiful way. That puts Trump at odds with the majority of Americans. A Gallup poll from March this year said seven in 10 Americans oppose an AI data center getting built in their area.

2:05:08 Trump in his remarks acknowledged that AI data centers could use a quote little public relations help, but his stance underscores how his perception of the technology differs from voters concerns,

2:05:20 which could be a top issue in the midterm elections this year. There it is. Top issue in the midterm and Abbott's fallen hook line and sinker for it. Have you ever seen I mean, what happened to all the other outrage? It just all went away. Oh, it just comes and goes and we've doubled down on this one. You know, when the outrage on that one came into the hill country,

2:05:39 I'm I'm

2:05:40 I I get these pockets of outrage that just pop up, this cycles of outrage that we see here in the hill country. I think maybe started by some of the women on the that No. It's it's great. It's it's it is them. It is those women all the time. Yeah. They they get that all fired up and, it just seems like they want to pull me in real quick and Oh, let's talk to Matt. He'll make it an issue on the radio. And I just, I kick

2:06:05 back and I wait and I watch and I observe.

2:06:08 And at the end of this, on these data centers, the first thing I thought about was you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. We are so addicted to Internet, to connectivity,

2:06:19 to being able to, you know, check your bank account while you're on the road in, I don't know, Taiwan or somewhere and all of these things that people, they're thirsty for more internet, more things on their phone, more connectivity.

2:06:34 I went to the bank the other day and the ATM machine was down. You can't walk into your bank anymore and just get cash, right? And so I By the way, you can at Guadalupe Bank. You can at Guadalupe Bank, which are a sponsor of the Matt Long show. Oh, really?

2:06:49 I love those guys. Yes. They are real good. And so

2:06:54 so I pulled up to the drive up window and I just gave her my card and I said, I just need $40.

2:07:00 Adam, they had to go print temporary checks. No. For

2:07:04 me.

2:07:06 Really? Yeah. And so now I have The system was down so they couldn't they couldn't do Electronically. It

2:07:12 Oh, goodness. I'm telling you folks, this battle against the data centers,

2:07:17 and had I brought any clips, it would have been boring clips from thirteen

2:07:22 years ago when Texas,

2:07:24 the state of Texas, was hustling for data centers. Yeah. And I listened to several hours of a committee hearing from

2:07:32 thirteen years ago where they were begging these companies to come to Texas and the companies were lined up there talking to them, giving testimony,

2:07:40 and they kept saying, yeah, but we need a sales tax cut. Yeah. And they got it. Yeah. They got it. They got a 6% sales tax cut. And so we the the state

2:07:52 was all gung ho to get the data centers in, and now the very same people who are all gung ho. And by the way, it passed on the floor unanimously.

2:08:02 How often does that happen? Never happens. No. No. And, so it passed unanimously.

2:08:07 And now those same guys, gals and guys are all saying, oh, no, no data centers. No data centers.

2:08:15 It it's it's it's to get votes. It's be afraid of of

2:08:19 of data centers and vote Republican. Be afraid of Muslims, vote Republican.

2:08:24 Be afraid of

2:08:25 they just Republican. And vote Republican. Just name it. Name it whatever it is. Oh, and weed's gonna come back into it. Be afraid, you know, of of Delta

2:08:35 nines. Vote Republican.

2:08:37 V I mean, it's They already passed that, didn't they? Didn't they pass that? Even they've even pulled that back. Oh, yeah. Just the last couple The of stone Texans are like, hey, yo. I'm not gonna vote for you if you don't give me my delta eight and delta nine back. That's right. That's right. That's crazy. So, yeah, it is it's just fear mongering before the elections and it's Oh, yeah. You don't wanna insult people.

2:08:58 You know? I don't wanna I don't wanna insult people, but at the same time, it's like

2:09:03 step back a little bit,

2:09:06 see who is motivating you and why. Where is this message coming from? Mhmm. And why is it so why are you getting so hair on fire about it? Well, one of the reasons is

2:09:18 the

2:09:19 frontier model companies themselves frontier model. Okay.

2:09:24 So these the like OpenAI and Anthropic, basically the top two. Their entire marketing to keep the money flowing into them without any profits coming out, in fact, they're burning money at an unbelievable rate.

2:09:36 The their marketing campaign is twofold. One is,

2:09:40 our stuff is so good, it's dangerous.

2:09:43 Mhmm. So we couldn't even give it to you if we wanted to.

2:09:47 Government, please regulate us so that the cheap see that see that computer right there? Yeah. That is running my entire production system that is all open source models running on that one little computer, that little box right there with the blue tiny

2:10:02 thing? Yep. Yep. Oh my goodness. That's a GTX. It's it's it's

2:10:06 just running,

2:10:07 you know, everything. My my clips, my,

2:10:10 you know, the whole thing. It runs everything

2:10:13 and that's what they hate. So they want regulation

2:10:17 to ban open source models.

2:10:20 But because of their marketing,

2:10:22 people are like, well, this stuff doesn't sound good for my health. It's in these data centers. We don't want it near me because it might take over and do something. And this was the latest. OpenAI CEO, Sam Altman in an ad with a new app building partner on the promises of artificial intelligence.

2:10:38 Another company executive is sending a different message. In an interview with the Guardian newspaper, OpenAI's chief global affairs officer Chris Lahain saying, people are going to be able to access these open source models and be able to have ongoing

2:10:53 persistent attacks on you. Oh, no. And you're going to need to have Open models will have attacks on you. We've gotta regulate them. Stop. Release superior models, defend them Superior models. Moth and defend yourself.

2:11:06 It's been a month since OpenAI revealed one of its models with no instructions to do so, escaped containment and hacked another company called Hugging Face. Well, we're looking at AI. We're looking at controls. We're also making sure that we leave. I I like this president, but he has no jack about this. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Shortly afterwards, president Donald Trump said the White House was examining safety regulations,

2:11:29 but little has happened since Good. At least on the federal level. Weeks ago, a New Mexico judge ordered Facebook and Instagram owner Meta to pay more than $900,000,000

2:11:40 US for causing mental harm to children.

2:11:43 On Monday, Alabama's attorney general subpoenaed OpenAI over the hugging face incident,

2:11:49 investigating whether the company violated consumer protection laws and poses an ongoing risk to the citizens of the state. They might be able to impose real change on the way OpenAI

2:12:00 operates. The University of Toronto's Evan Light says the New Mexico ruling could offer precedent for controlling tech giants, pointing out the chorus calling for AI control includes top AI companies like OpenAI.

2:12:14 And he notes Lehane's comment targeted open source artificial intelligence,

2:12:19 OpenAI's not for profit rivals.

2:12:21 Hub and Face tried to use on the OpenAI model to deal with the situation, and it was not capable of doing that. And it used an open source model from a Chinese developer

2:12:31 to

2:12:32 adequately figure out what the situation was. Global News asked OpenAI for comments. The company did not respond by deadline. On Monday, it told CNN it is conducting a thorough review. Okay. So it's that kind of story

2:12:45 when people don't know what it is and it's it's kind of hard for people to understand. The only thing they really most people see is Chad GPT and it talks back to him and it sounds like a robot and it looks up off and it's like a magic eight ball and they think it's the oracle and it says everything, of course, it is not always right, but that's not really what AI does, I mean, I don't have my box over there, I don't ask it questions,

2:13:09 you know, what I do is I use it to to run different workflows and processes. It made me extremely efficient and has saved me hours and hours of prep per day. I mean, it's really phenomenal.

2:13:21 But they hear this and they're like, I don't want that near me, you know. There's enough YouTube pastors out there that have made people afraid of this, you know, it's the it's the devil, it's the it's the the antichrist,

2:13:34 all of this stuff. You know, Peter Thiel, you get people out there, well, Thiel and and flock cameras and it's all gonna come together and we're all gonna die. That's basically the marketing. The funny thing is is that this is one of the largest

2:13:48 transfers of wealth to the working class to build these data centers.

2:13:53 I mean, it's unbelievable the amount of work that is available in Texas. That's all all I know about, but it's everywhere to build these data centers. But they better hurry up

2:14:03 because just today it was announced that NVIDIA,

2:14:06 the only company actually making a profit because they create the the GPUs that that everyone runs their frontier models on, but not just the front every model. Mhmm. There's other stuff, but they're they're the big dog. You know, they just reported like some astronomical

2:14:21 number like 46,000,000,000

2:14:25 with a $2.20

2:14:27 per share profit this past quarter.

2:14:30 They just announced they're buying Hugging Face.

2:14:33 The guys you just heard about. You told us a couple of weeks ago what Hugging Face was.

2:14:39 It's basically

2:14:40 a version of that. Okay. Okay. Chinese

2:14:43 models,

2:14:45 they're distilled probably stolen from those whatever it is, it works it works fine.

2:14:50 You know, is it cutting edge? Is it frontier? No. No. It's maybe nine months behind. It works fine. There's a lot of open source work being done. But NVIDIA,

2:14:59 they have not they are now about to kill all these guys because they now have the full stack. They've got the the GPUs,

2:15:07 they signed it, and they they've been pumping money into all these companies to keep them going. The circular financing you might have heard about. Mhmm. Mhmm. So they've been putting money in Anthropic, in OpenAir, all the small startups that use these models.

2:15:20 And now they just said, you know what? We're gonna buy Hugging Face. That's gonna kill these guys and NVIDIA is going to be the top big dog. And I don't know if all these data centers are gonna happen. I really don't think so. Let me ask you, do you being the king of, conspiracy

2:15:35 theories,

2:15:36 what

2:15:37 do you what do you hear about this theory about that China is the one that is behind the no data centers in our neighborhood

2:15:45 because

2:15:46 they want all the data centers. And so the folks that are out promoting no data centers

2:15:52 and keep them out of my neighborhood, do you think that China has anything to do with that? No. That is the republican response to the democrats playing this game on them. They're the so literally, you know mister wonderful, Kevin O'Leary? Mhmm. So he's

2:16:07 I don't know if the guy even has any money. Okay? I I don't know if he's just on Shark Tank or whatever. But, you know, he does YouTube videos in his pajama pants at home now and, you know, he had this whole video like, oh, we found out that, you know, this whole campaign which was some thing was in Utah, like some left wing group was going against data centers and literally spreading this message of data centers bad,

2:16:31 you know, don't vote Republican because they want data centers. And mister Wonderful was a perfect, you know, poster child for Republican capitalism.

2:16:39 Mhmm. And he immediately went, this is China, they're funded by China. No, they're not. They're funded by, you know, the

2:16:49 Arabella group. Okay. Which is this huge, you know, you know, group of left wing billionaires who just hate Republicans.

2:16:56 So it's so so they're they're playing

2:17:00 a sigh up on the Republican party, getting everyone to be afraid of data centers.

2:17:06 And the Republican response is, well, that's just China. They wanna have all the data centers. It's all mid term bull crap. All of it. Okay. I take back everything. I've been spreading that theory. So No.

2:17:18 I'll I'll I'll break that I'll break that theory up. China doesn't need this this is the beauty of the Internet. You don't need data centers in Texas or Utah if you're China and put them in China. They've got the cheapest power everywhere.

2:17:29 Kent, what yeah. What about putting them in space? There's been a lot of talk about that. That's Elon. Yeah. Well

2:17:36 I like Elon.

2:17:37 I mean, if you can make that happen, I mean, he solves the power problem supposedly

2:17:41 because the sun, you know, I don't know. He's like pigs in space. He's gonna have data centers and I don't know. I guess if you can have this, you know, this

2:17:49 the space station, I guess you can have data centers. I don't know what the weight ratio I don't know how any of that works, but man, it funded his IPO. I mean Yeah. Yeah. You got the rockets. You you you got the the GPUs,

2:18:03 you know, you know how to do solar. You've got Starlink. Maybe he can do it. I don't know.

2:18:08 I've you know, what he will do is he's gonna do his new cell phone company.

2:18:13 Yeah. I've heard. That that is obviously, know, there's some interesting I don't like necessarily the idea of it all everything being tied to Elon

2:18:21 because it can go away but,

2:18:23 yeah. I don't know. Data centers in space, I'm fine with it. I'm I'm good with data centers. There you go. I think that they're gonna have so much power being built around these data centers

2:18:35 that when they go away, because they will, you know. Mhmm. I had a data center in 2002 in Amsterdam.

2:18:42 Spectacular fail. I was way too early. Right

2:18:46 on the Am 6, the Amsterdam Internet Exchange. And I was right because, you know, data centers today are filled up with your YouTube videos,

2:18:54 all your Netflix stuff is at a data center as close to you as possible because it's just cheaper that way to transport the data.

2:19:01 So we these things are a fact of life. But when they go away, we'll have all this cheap power and we'll be, I don't know, mining Bitcoin all day, Matt. There you go, there you go. You know, it was interesting, the testimony from thirteen years ago from these

2:19:16 folks who were trying to

2:19:18 bring data centers to Texas,

2:19:20 they were very clear that they really needed to be and wanted to be near big cities. They had to be close to a large large population because of latency.

2:19:31 Has that changed?

2:19:32 No. Latency is still the same. Well, that's for what they so you have

2:19:39 inference is what they call it's a fancy word. So you have the the compute.

2:19:43 Gotta have compute, Matt. Okay. Gotta have compute to build the models, which is a very

2:19:50 energy and processor intense intensive process,

2:19:54 you know, that cost a lot of money just in pure energy.

2:19:57 But then the inference, so when it does something,

2:20:01 you wanna get that information to you as quickly as possible.

2:20:04 For your chat GPT, maybe not that important, but it's it's the same as

2:20:10 like the stock market. You know, you have data centers in in the buildings themselves where people, you know Right. Do this trading because you

2:20:18 want the lowest latency possible

2:20:21 to have to make the trade even

2:20:23 two tenths of a second faster than the other guy, it could mean a lot of money. This is why the president the president's

2:20:30 media company was selling API

2:20:34 early access, which is literally like milliseconds to his true social posts.

2:20:38 Because when the president posts something,

2:20:41 then, you know, that changes markets. That change, you know, when he when he says,

2:20:46 you know, I'm gonna bomb a whole civil civilization,

2:20:49 the oil markets react immediately.

2:20:52 When he says, oh, no, it's I think it's okay now, the oil markets react immediately.

2:20:56 If you can get that five five hundred milliseconds faster

2:21:00 than the other guy, you can make a lot of money. Okay. That's why they're leasing that API access out for, you know, $500,000

2:21:08 or it's a $100,000 a month. It could literally be that valuable. Wow. So

2:21:13 anyway, I'm I'm I'm not against data centers. Okay. I'm against chatbots. I think that's the worst thing it could have ever existed. I've never even tried one. You should try one, Matt. Yeah. Which one?

2:21:25 Doesn't

2:21:26 matter. Doesn't matter. Try chat GPT and give it and give it a name and talk to her. Oh, no. I can't I I just can't do it. Oh, man. Hey, Matt. I really appreciate you being here. Actually, I I held you much longer than I said I would.

2:21:41 You're welcome. I'm I'm gonna do the donations. You're welcome to hang around. I'm happy to let you out. What do wanna do? Well, before you do donations, I wanna talk about a donation

2:21:52 right quick, you don't mind. Yeah. Of course. So the one of the very first times I heard of No Agenda and it was somewhere between three and four years ago and I was driving back and it was right after I'd met Adam and I said, well, I'm I was driving back from Georgetown and I had just it was about 01:00 and I said, I'm gonna listen live, you know, and hadn't done that yet. And so I'm listening live

2:22:13 and, JCD,

2:22:14 you guys were going back and forth and he started ribbing you about your wealthy friends here in Fredericksburg.

2:22:22 And, he's he said something to the effect, you must be getting a lot of dollars out of your wealthy friends here in Fredericksburg.

2:22:29 And, then you said, no, you hadn't gotten a dime yet from,

2:22:34 no donors from Fredericksburg.

2:22:36 Adam, I whipped over to the side of the road

2:22:40 and I made a donation. I bet you did, Matt. And, I made a donation and because I just wanted to be able to say from here to eternity that I was the first donor

2:22:50 in Fredericksburg

2:22:51 to the Adam Curry show. Now, not gonna tell you how much I donated,

2:22:56 but it was 40% of what was in my checking account that day.

2:23:00 So $16.

2:23:01 Okay. Perfect.

2:23:03 Brother, I so appreciate you coming on. I love talking through the stuff with you and, you know, if you if you wanna come back on again, I'm I'm sure we could do that. I'd love to do that with you. It's a lot of fun. Well, it's a real honor and knowing how many people out there would would love to have this seat. I just feel very privileged to sit here.

2:23:23 And, no, you can't get, the NDA is very clear. I'm not gonna give you any details

2:23:29 about Adam's studio. Or any trade secrets. That's right. No trade secrets.

2:23:34 Thank you again, Adam. Thank you, brother. Morning, meatbags.

2:23:38 Bang four has been automated.

2:23:48 The morning. In the morning. In the morning.

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2:25:04 before they automate the plate.

2:25:07 Date in the morning.

2:25:09 In the morning.

2:25:13 In the morning.

2:25:14 In the morning.

2:25:19 Thank you very much, Just Baker for another fantastic mix. Appreciate them so much. Anybody is welcome to send them in. I love playing them during the show now instead of end of show. It's a lot of fun. Value4Value,

2:25:30 that is our our motto here at the No Agenda show.

2:25:34 Joe Countess, this thing is funny. I'm

2:25:39 Flying solo on this here. Let me see. Peak Trollage eight seventy six. Oh, man. You guys were better on Sunday.

2:25:47 Good to have you all here, Trolls. That is troll room dot I o, noagendastream.com.

2:25:51 I think noagenda.stream

2:25:52 also works.

2:25:53 So Value4Value,

2:25:55 it's very simple. All you have to do is whenever you get value out of the podcast, send it back with your time, your talent, or your treasure.

2:26:01 Time and talent critical,

2:26:03 your boots on the ground.

2:26:05 Just anything you can do telling people about the podcast is extremely helpful. Organizing meet ups, there's so much that can be done, including artwork for the show at noagendaartgenerator.com.

2:26:17 And let me see. Now I don't really have anyone to argue with anymore since John isn't here with me, but

2:26:24 I will say that I love Parker Paulie's

2:26:28 JCD pest control art. It was definitely something different, you know, the way it looked with the the lettering and I don't think he I don't think he's an AI guy actually. It looks like he did some work on this.

2:26:41 It was just great. I love this. I think I even used one of the Parker Paulies for the pre street for the for the bat signal this morning. Thank you. No agendaartgenerator.com.

2:26:49 Let's take a quick look. There was some other stuff I think that was in the running here.

2:26:55 We had

2:26:57 oh, I did kinda like the beef one, the beef product.

2:27:01 The the beach ball was okay.

2:27:05 Order of the Ant was cute, although they could hear John saying it's too small. Certainly,

2:27:10 Korean friends was too small.

2:27:13 And I think that way yeah. That was really it. No agendaartgenerator.com.

2:27:17 It's highly appreciated all the work that you guys do.

2:27:21 All the work prompting.

2:27:24 Now to thank

2:27:26 our producers who supported us,

2:27:29 $50 and above, we thank everybody. $200 or more, we give you not just the opportunity to send in a note which I'll read, but also you get an official Hollywood title of associate executive producer,

2:27:40 $300 above, and you get an executive producer. And we have a lot of people coming in for the order of the ant three thirty three thirty three, Gets you that handsome pin,

2:27:51 which Jay has been working on very hard. And we start off with sir Wild Bill, who is in Data Center Central in Alexandria,

2:27:58 Virginia, $600. He says, I am a Baronet.

2:28:02 Thanks for making no agenda. I'm not a spook, but I've

2:28:05 been to Gitmo several times. I can't say more. God bless sir Wild Bill, sacred red knight of the heart, liberator of California.

2:28:14 Is that so?

2:28:16 Sir Jaymo, Lewiston, Idaho, $350.93.

2:28:19 Order of the Anto Nation from Sir Jaymo, Black Baron of North Idaho.

2:28:23 Hakon Anderson

2:28:25 from Portland, Oregon, $350.58.

2:28:28 ITM, I started listening in 2022 after my brother hit me in the mouth. This podcast has given me so much. I am forever grateful for the information and the laughter that you two have

2:28:39 given me. I'm going to miss JCD's voice. You are not alone, my brother. I would like some jobs karma and this last donation brings me to knighthood.

2:28:47 I would like to be known as Sir Tinfoil Viking for the round table,

2:28:51 Smolhove,

2:28:53 which is a sheep's head, and Aquavit,

2:28:56 a breakfast of champions. Keep up the good work says Andersson.

2:29:02 And we got your jobs karma

2:29:06 right here. Jobs,

2:29:08 jobs,

2:29:09 jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've

2:29:13 got karma.

2:29:16 Sir Mike Keeler, slayer of taxes in Las Vegas, Nevada 350.

2:29:21 Long time listener from Las Vegas, my first donation was for show two sixty seven. Wow.

2:29:26 I originally learned about the show when JCD was on Twitter, as many of you did. The passing of JCD was devastating. I read his columns back in the eighties and they were often the first thing I read when I received those weekly or monthly magazines. You are not alone in that, brother. Well, didn't always agree with him

2:29:42 and you're not alone in that either. His columns are always thought provoking. Today is August 26. It's my sixtieth birthday and joining the Order of the Ant is an awesome gift and you shall receive such order my friend. Keep up the fight. Help bring the truth out. Best regards, sir Mike Keeler, slayer of taxes.

2:29:59 And let's see. Now we have some

2:30:04 Nathan Rottier.

2:30:06 Yes. Nathan Rottier. He says, in the morning it was time for my annual donation.

2:30:11 This was $500,

2:30:14 can Scandinavian dollars at the time. It's now $348.50

2:30:18 and sinking.

2:30:20 I must admit

2:30:21 John's passing

2:30:22 hit harder than I expected and my prayers go out on behalf of the family, friends, and No Agenda Nation as a whole. May healing come as you grieve and God bless you all. Thank you, brother. Appreciate that. I remember when Adam and John were talking regarding what they would do if one of them passed.

2:30:39 We've talked about that a few times. They both said that they would get Moe Fax as a replacement. No. I think John actually said, you're gonna get Moe, aren't you? Which he did not think was a good idea.

2:30:50 Made me smile and then a bit more ruefully now. On a different note, show day is my birthday.

2:30:56 He wants okay. He's got some jingles that I didn't prep. He wants eating the dogs. Hold on a sec. Eating the dogs.

2:31:07 Sorry,

2:31:08 I dropped the ball on

2:31:10 the the prep for the jingles here. Eating the dogs, that sounds pretty good. Okay.

2:31:15 And you asked for too much for me today. Pretty good.

2:31:20 Yes. You got pretty good.

2:31:22 What

2:31:23 in the world is this? That

2:31:26 is

2:31:27 man, what is that? I think that's the F35. I'm gonna wind it up with

2:31:31 an F35

2:31:32 karma for you. That should do it for you. Here we go. They're eating the dogs. I think that sounds pretty good.

2:31:42 You've got karma.

2:31:47 There you go.

2:31:49 Jesse

2:31:50 Chapotel,

2:31:51 34375.

2:31:53 No note. That earns a double up karma for you. You've got Double up.

2:31:58 Karma.

2:31:59 And of course, in order of the ant, sir David Fugazoto.

2:32:03 He is the

2:32:05 oh, man. He is the Duke of America's heartland and the Arabian Peninsula. Believe $343.75,

2:32:11 that's probably $3.33 plus fees. Proud to join the fight. I'm doing my part, says sir Dave Fugazoto.

2:32:17 Salvator Trinhali,

2:32:18 thank you for your courage. No jingles, karma. 34375.

2:32:22 This is Rajinderpal

2:32:24 Rajdoshanj

2:32:26 from Friant Friant, California. I think that's right. Free in Friant.

2:32:31 ITM, all caps this note. That doesn't happen often. Our condolences to the Dvorak, Curry's and the No Agenda Nation. I've been a long time listener to the show over fifteen years and eleven eleven monthly subscribers since 09/27/2015.

2:32:44 I'm adding 33333

2:32:46 for the Order of the Ant and this should also put me well over the threshold for knighthood. Yes, it does. I would like to be knighted as sir Jagnee,

2:32:53 oh, Jagnee, pronounced Jagnee, sir Jagnee of the Milledgeham Lake area. Can I have chai and samosas at the round table along with Diljit Dosanj

2:33:03 Punjabi music?

2:33:06 I did I forgot to get the musicians in for that. Also, add me to the birthday list. I'll be turning 59 in August 28, and he wants some f karma goat cancer a goat f cancer goat karma. Thank you for your courage. God bless.

2:33:34 Karma. So much easier with John. I could key

2:33:37 stuff up while he was talking. Ryan Jacobs, 34375,

2:33:41 Order of the Ant for You. Like many others, I got hit in the mouth during COVID,

2:33:45 and your show helped ground me. This is my first donation. Please de douche me. You've

2:33:51 been de douche.

2:33:53 Missing JCB like so many others, it would be an honor to be a member of the Order of the Ant. Thanks, Ryan. Sir becoming heroic, 33333,

2:34:01 ants, ants, ants. Yes, sir. You are in the order. Sarcastic the Nomad from Glenmore, Pennsylvania with 33333,

2:34:09 and he's celebrating thirty years of his wedded bliss with his keeper.

2:34:12 And I never had a fight. I I never won a fight, he says. This donation will make me a Viscount. I claim Chester County if the peerage committee approves.

2:34:22 So done.

2:34:23 Adam, please plug plug the Chester Springs meetup on August 30. Well, there you go. The Chester Springs meet up in Pennsylvania

2:34:31 on the thirtieth. No jingles, no karma. Sarcastic the Nomad. Paul Field wrote War and Peace from Moissani

2:34:37 Moissani,

2:34:38 Wisconsin 33333.

2:34:41 Little boots on the ground, I operate field work telecom, small family owned operating splicing company.

2:34:46 My wife helps with crew deployment as well as managing our books, all while managing the house and homeschooling our four human resources. I stay in the field with the guys helping hit deadlines among among other things. Work is going well and we are truly blessed. We built new fiber to the home networks, maintaining existing fiber and have recently started to

2:35:04 cable or dabble in data centers, and I'd love to give back to my community with an insider's peak. Okay.

2:35:11 Here we go. So far, we have only done some acceptance testing on the fiber network running through most of the Midwest. These networks are being built or upgrading

2:35:20 on preparation for the data center traffic, so I cannot provide a boots on the ground reporting from inside the data center. Friends who do that work say the same problems exist in the data center projects as the fiber to the home project. Materials and labor are short.

2:35:33 All of the ISPs have been racing for many years to take the Obama rural development of fiber. That's right. We got it here in Fredericksburg. All the poor people in rural Fredericksburg got fiber.

2:35:44 They've been racing to get the money. They're all getting ready to do the same thing with the next wave of government funding. Joey's bead broadband

2:35:51 equity access and development. That's from the o Biden the o Biden administration.

2:35:56 They're trying to cover as much ground as possible as quickly as possible and the supply chain is stressed. In general, the industry as a whole is tapped. Another problem for the data center build up. I'm splicing cable that was made a month ago. Trust me, it's not awesome inventory control. The industry is out of back stock. Projects are facing the decision of delaying or buying what's available is left into the splicing companies to figure out how to put the square peg in the round hole. By the way, here's an important one, field work is hiring. We're looking for honest people who are willing to work and learn, preferably someone who has been hit in the mouth. Oh, there you go. That's a prerequisite.

2:36:30 We will provide on the job training and competitive wages located in Central Wisconsin servicing all of Wisconsin and beyond. If interested,

2:36:37 visit fieldworkusefieldworkusallc.com.

2:36:43 Fieldworkusallc.com.

2:36:45 Maybe Linda can send some quality people my way. Linda Lou Patkin. JCD cannot be replaced, but I like your new Alex Jones guy. This is Sir Duchess.

2:36:55 Thank you very much, Paul. That was worth the boots on the ground. 250 first associate oh, I'm sorry. Edward Noon comes in with 33333.

2:37:02 No note. Order of the ant for you, sir. You've got Double

2:37:07 karma.

2:37:08 Here's our first associate executive producer, Wes Stewart, Mesa, Arizona 250.

2:37:13 What is the best birthday gift someone can give themselves? Of course, it's a producer ship for the No Agenda show that takes them to knighthood.

2:37:19 On the twenty eighth, I will have completed my sixty third revolution around the sun. Like me, Adam, you are generation Jones,

2:37:26 not a boomer or gen xer. I'm the face of gen x though. My first ever producer ship was sadly John's last episode. I forgot to mention that note that it was an inside track donation because he is the person who brought me to No Agenda Nation.

2:37:40 My deepest condolences to the Dvorak and Curry families, it does really feel like we all lost a loved one. No kidding. For my night name, I'd like to be known as sir name surname Stewart of the basin of the sun. For the round table, how about a fistful of nuts and a bottle of any Kirkland wine in John's honor? You got it. No jingles, just some r two.

2:37:59 D two karma, please. West Stewart, Mace, Arizona. You've got

2:38:06 karma.

2:38:07 Joe in Watkinsville,

2:38:09 Georgia 250.

2:38:10 Request a de douche. You've

2:38:13 been de douche.

2:38:15 Long overdue donation for the best podcast in the universe. Shout out to sir Jay Lou, Island Dog and Dame Janet of the Bulldog Nation, ITM.

2:38:24 Nicholas C. Fickland, Lancaster, South Carolina 212. My first donation is long overdue and it's time to atone. I'm gonna give you a

2:38:33 You've been de douched. Thank you for the unexpected introduction on the last show to answer your question. Yes. The remainder from my eight from the eight eight in memory of JCD oh, this is this

2:38:44 this,

2:38:45 Squazin hot sauce, squazin.com,

2:38:48 sclazin.

2:38:51 The remainder from the eight eight in memory of JCD batch with a special inscription are now available on the site for a special price. They're exclusive for No Agenda Nation. So they're hidden at sklezin.com/jcd,

2:39:03 sclazin.com/jcd.

2:39:06 All sales of this batch will be donated to the show as John would want it. No, John would demand it. Additionally, there are limited to 33 bottles, coincidentally,

2:39:15 after what I sent you, Dvorak and keeping one for myself. So that's what there is, 33 bottles. Buy now while stocks last, they will be gone soon, I'm sure. No jingles, but new business business prayer,

2:39:26 if you don't mind. Yes. We have we

2:39:29 have a special prayer jingle for those who

2:39:34 what

2:39:35 happens?

2:39:36 Prayer.

2:39:38 Yes. This is the one.

2:39:40 You've got prayers.

2:39:43 And

2:39:46 you're on my list, brother. Matthew Martell,

2:39:49 Broomall, Pennsylvania.

2:39:51 Martellhardware.com,

2:39:52 $210.60.

2:39:54 The challenge was to try to get JCD to chuckle using 250 characters or less. I think I got him once or twice. Same challenge, new host.

2:40:03 Visit martellhardware.com.

2:40:05 Use coupon code, no potato

2:40:08 for an additional 10% off your order. JCD Hot Pockets.

2:40:12 Yes. Okay.

2:40:15 JCD

2:40:16 Hot Pockets. Oh, wait a minute.

2:40:19 I I somehow

2:40:21 I don't know what happened, but I forgot to

2:40:24 key everything up. Hot Pockets where Oh, this is it. Yes.

2:40:29 Hot Pockets.

2:40:30 From

2:40:31 the grave everybody, Hot Pockets from the grave.

2:40:35 And there she is, Lou Patkin from Castle Rock, Colorado, $200 and all she wants is jobs karma and she writes in her note that AI can write your resume, the problem is it can write everyone else's too. Linda helps professionals and executives figure out what makes them different, what makes them valuable, and turns that value into a resume that gets results.

2:40:55 Go to imagemakersinc.com.

2:40:56 That's imagemakersincwithak.

2:40:58 And Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes because your resume should do more than just look good. Jobs,

2:41:06 jobs,

2:41:07 jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've

2:41:11 got karma.

2:41:13 And as promised, the rest of the donors, $50 and above, reading of your note not guaranteed, but thank you Johns Bert, Johns BRT,

2:41:21 $100.88.

2:41:23 Patrick Mangan from Tacoma, Washington, $100.

2:41:27 Andrew Kelly, Los Angeles, 80 888. Vote with your pocket. Happy Adam is back and we love Rob Dew. Rest in peace JCD.

2:41:35 Philip Bloom, widen oh, this in Switzerland.

2:41:39 Vaden, Vaden, Vaden, edgy, and and disweiss.

2:41:43 $88.88.

2:41:44 Miss you, John. Keep it up, Adam. Oh, he's also a ham. 73 is hotel bravo three x-ray Yankee papa.

2:41:50 Sir anonymous Viscount of the ADFC and Arapahoe County in Aurora, Colorado,

2:41:55 8888.

2:41:56 Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada, 8833.

2:41:59 ITM, and thank you for your courage. Thank you, Dame Rita. And there he is as always with the boob donation, $80.08.

2:42:05 8008. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, he is the Archduke of Luna, lover of America, and boobs from Concord, North Carolina.

2:42:11 And also boobs donation from Gordon Schroeder in memory of Dolly. Yes. That makes sense. $80.08.

2:42:18 Thank you. John Alberini,

2:42:19 seventy twenty six. Lesterkowski in Kingland, Arizona with a small boob, $60.06.

2:42:24 Put it in your calculator, folks. Dame Liberty mom, Vista, California. She's got small boobs as a donation.

2:42:30 And Dame Rita comes in again. What happened there? Dame Rita, double nickels on the dime,

2:42:35 from Sparks, Nevada, she has a note. I'll read it. ITM added, we've been doing a fantastic job at rearranging

2:42:40 to keep the show going as you work your way back to see your granddaughter. Yes. Leaving on Saturday. Can't wait doing the show from Rotterdam,

2:42:47 home of the macro mafia on Sunday.

2:42:50 Becoming a grandparent is a wonderful new chapter, love and light. Yes. We saw baby Cleo this morning on the

2:42:58 on the WhatsApp call and of course, I went, oh, Cleo and then she started to cry. So I have some work to do. I I Tina said, maybe don't do your voice like a retard so high, just, you know, keep your low baritone, that might be better. But yeah, yeah, I scare children.

2:43:16 Daniel Pagan, Bayside, New York, 55. Thank you, sir Luke Rayner in London,

2:43:22 55. Very grateful the show is still happening. We'll miss John. Love and collective karma for all. Sir Luke Rayner, Duke of London in the Southeast. Do it at the end for you. Surprise, Knight of Astonishment in Yukon,

2:43:33 Oklahoma,

2:43:34 5444.

2:43:36 And Nathan Gwyn, Jackson, Tennessee, 5272.

2:43:40 Here's the fifties. We've got

2:43:43 James Gonzales, Lancaster, California. Brad McDonald

2:43:46 from Mason, Ohio. Kathrine Fontal in

2:43:51 Rotterdam, The Netherlands.

2:43:52 And hello, Kathrine. And Aaron Weisgerber in Ben Oregon. And last on the list, Michael Myers, Diamond Head, Missouri. Thank you all so much.

2:44:00 We see you forty nine ninety nines. We do not do anything under 50 for reasons of anonymity. Noagendadonations.com

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2:44:10 You can support us in so many different ways.

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2:44:35 And

2:44:40 we say happy birthday to sir Mike Keeler Slayer of Taxis. He turned 60 yesterday.

2:44:45 Nathan Russier turns 27 today.

2:44:48 Raj

2:44:49 Dassange turns 59 tomorrow. Wes Stewart turns 63 tomorrow.

2:44:55 And Andre Mackie.

2:44:56 Turns,

2:44:57 celebrates her on the twenty ninth, and I wanna say happy birthday to Christina Valerie Curry. She turns 36 today. Happy birthday, Bubbleu.

2:45:06 And from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Now

2:45:12 we let's see.

2:45:14 For some I thought we should have had some title changes here, but I didn't see them in the email. So the first thing we shall do

2:45:22 is welcome the brand new entrance of the No Agenda, Order of the Ants.

2:45:30 Order of the Ants.

2:45:32 And we congratulate sir Wild Bill, sir Jaymo Hakon Anderson, sir Mike Keeler, Slayer of Taxis, Nathan Rochaier, Jesse Chapotel,

2:45:42 sir David Fugazoto,

2:45:43 Salvatore Tringali,

2:45:45 Raj Dorsans,

2:45:46 Ryan Jacobs, sir becoming heroic, sarcastic the nomad,

2:45:50 Paul Field, and Edward Noon. All of you are now in the Order of the Ants.

2:45:57 Okay. It takes some getting used to. I'm working on it. Hey. We got a couple of knights to bring up on the podium. So, there's my single sword.

2:46:04 Hakon Anderson,

2:46:05 Raj Dosanj, and West Stewart, hop on up here in the podium. You're about to become knights of the No Agenda round table. Thanks to your support in the show of $1,000

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2:46:22 sir Tinfoil Viking, and surname Stewart of the Basin Of The Sun. For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rint Boys, and Chardonnay,

2:46:31 and samosas at the round table with some Jilt Dosani Punjabi music not happening. Fistful of Nuts, bottle of any kind of Kirkland wine. And of course, with that, we have some sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale and gerbils breast milk and pablum. And as always, the mutton and the mead. Head over to noagendarings.com.

2:46:47 That is where you will find a

2:46:50 place for you to give us all your information, the place where to send your ring, what size you want it to be. There's a ring sizing guide on that as well.

2:46:57 Of course, you also will find information about the order of the ants at no the orderoftheant@noagendarings.com.

2:47:04 I thought I had didn't I have a I thought I had a new

2:47:08 a new ant jingle. Maybe it was an ant karma jingle someone's people are starting to send jingles again. This is good news. What is this? You've

2:47:16 got

2:47:17 ants. There you go. It's okay. Alright. Thank you very much.

2:47:21 Thank you all for supporting the No Agenda show. It is highly

2:47:36 Am I gonna promote the Fredericksburg meetup? Yeah. Are you kidding me? Okay. Alright. Once you once you do it right now, Matt, once you promote the Fredericksburg meetup. Alright. October 17, it will be the fifth

2:47:49 semi annual. We do it twice a year,

2:47:52 and the fifth one will be in October 17 out at J6 Jenny's, and

2:47:59 the notice is already up. And I would like to put a special request out there.

2:48:05 Jenny makes a living on, renting out her her units out there, her B and Bs, and it is business practice here in the hill country

2:48:14 that you, on a weekend, you you have to get two nights. That's the way it That is that's everything that way for sure. Yeah. The whole hill country that way. I would really appreciate it if some of you guys would

2:48:25 would come over for two nights, come on over on a Friday night. And the reason I say that, first of all, the breakfast that Jenny gives you on Saturday morning Oh, exactly. And then on Sunday I mean, I'm telling you. And I will say that if, if we get any, folks, that stay the weekend there,

2:48:43 I will bring up a jelly that my homemade jelly Which one? Which I will donate it. I don't know. Prickly pear, the chicken. The prickly pear, the what I'll I'll bring a whole variety,

2:48:54 a whole selection.

2:48:56 But it would be a blast to see y'all out there and it is such peaceful Yes. Place if you're coming over from Austin or Houston or Yep. The Metroplex or wherever.

2:49:06 I mean, it is so quiet and peaceful out there. It'll be a perfect weekend for you. So check-in at Friday on three at 03:00 on Friday. Yes. Check-in, stay the weekend. Yeah. And, I do have to say the first meetup we had there was the highest,

2:49:21 bar revenue that they had ever had up until drinkers, that

2:49:25 man. We're drinkers. And it's just beer and wine. And so,

2:49:29 I guess the No Agenda people drink and know things. And so

2:49:34 there you go. That's my my push for the Fredericksburg

2:49:38 fifth semi annual

2:49:40 meetup. And if you are

2:49:42 if you are Christ curious, decloaking, or just wanna check it out, I will personally usher you at Bridge Church for the early service at 9AM if you stay Friday and Saturday and come to the church on Sunday. It'll be a hoot. And Matt will be there too. We will That's right. We will walk you in. We will walk you down the aisle. That's right.

2:50:01 A meetup report that I missed. It was the thirsty third

2:50:04 Thursday meetup.

2:50:07 Let me see. This is from the Baron of Belmont and Catawaba

2:50:11 Catawaba, sorry, River Basin. We had a good turnout at the thirsty third Thursday meet up at Ed's Tavern on Thursday. We had two dukes, two barons, several nights, one dame even had the blonde girlfriend nickname given by John.

2:50:23 Some of our regulars were absent, but we did have a first timer and some who couldn't eat who can't make who can't make every every month. I gotcha. JC was well remembered for lots of bits and sayings of his were recalled. John is a national treasure and will be well remembered for years to come. The Charlotte No Agenda family sends its love and heartfelt condolences to the Dvorak family, the Curry family, the Horowitz family, and all who loved and miss JCD.

2:50:48 Quote, our lives change like the weather but a legend never dies. Jimmy Buffet from Last Mango in Paris. Thank you for your courage. The Baron of Belmont and the Catawba River Basin. Thank you so much, brother. Very nice. I'm sorry I missed that the first time. I prefer audio reports but we make an exception for you, of course. An audio report though here from the Chattanooga No Agenda meetup

2:51:09 with music apparently. In the morning, No Agenda Nation, this is Commodore Baron Bones, Knight of Twin Peaks. We are here at Lookout Winery having a fantastic time when everybody had some flight of wine. We had some pizza, had some great conversation,

2:51:23 and we're here to pass the phone around to say hello to everybody else that's here. Sir, are you Larry here in the morning? Hello there, No Agenda crowd. This is Dave Carlson. Hanging there, Adam. This

2:51:33 is Linda Carlson. This is Chris in the morning. Hey. This is Scott Lovelace,

2:51:39 newly crowned knight at the round table, sir ginger beer of East by God, Tennessee. In the morning, RIP JCD. In the morning, slaves love mac and cheese. ITM, this is a dude named Ben. Named Ben. And I really appreciate sir Paul putting this on. He's done an excellent job. It's been a lot of fun. Hi, guys. I'm salty. I have no idea who you are, but it's good to be here.

2:52:01 Sir Paul Couture,

2:52:03 keeper of the art in the morning. This is Noah, your resident Illuminati in Freemason.

2:52:08 Sir, I do name Ben again.

2:52:11 Missy John. And we will all say that, John, you may have turned down your speakers for the last time, but we're gonna turn them up here just so that way we can go out and hit them in the mouth. In the morning. In the morning. Wonderful.

2:52:23 Thank you. I don't think I heard your server in there, but that happens. There's a meetup taking place tomorrow in Maastricht in The Netherlands. The three times is shipwright. That is a Dutch saying.

2:52:35 Three times is shipwright. 07:00 in in

2:52:41 Oh, that's sir Eyford Bob. He is the

2:52:44 the crisis guy who comes in with emergency communications. He went and he came in and helped out in Kerrville,

2:52:50 set up entire mesh networks for everybody. Wonderful guy. Go and see Evert in Maastricht. If you're in the South Of The Netherlands, it's a beautiful place to go check out. If you're not, go drive down there people.

2:53:02 On Saturday, the backyard barbecue at the Jingle Pit Ranch, 01:00, Oh, Jingle Pot Ranch, I'm sorry. It's a private residence, so you need to see the website to RSVP. That is in Nanaimo,

2:53:12 British Columbia in Scandinavia.

2:53:15 Go check that out. Sir Tree Daddy is hosting. They have a cool place. Our favorite Buzzkill meetup, 02:00 at Marble Brewery in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Also on Saturday, the New England JCD Memorial meetup, 02:00. That is at the home of Lady Butters and Sir Knives in Rhode Island. RSVP required for the secret location.

2:53:32 Curmudgeon meetup 06:00,

2:53:34 that is, the same as Amsterdam time, but this will be at the Rooftop Bar in Zurich, Switzerland.

2:53:40 Black Knights or Swiss Senna is hosting. Please, we love meetup reports from different countries. So go to the rooftop bar on Saturday at 06:00 and hang out with

2:53:51 the Circe Swiss Senate and your other Knights and Dames and douchebags, etcetera, and producers in Switzerland.

2:53:57 On Sunday,

2:53:58 our next show day, the Chester County Community Meetup, 03:33 at Liberty Union Bar and Grill in Chester Springs, Pennsylvania.

2:54:05 And we're done with August, but for September, we have on the third, my birthday, Raleigh, North Carolina the sixth, Tapiola, Michigan, Fort Mills, South Carolina, Medford Lakes, New Jersey. On the tenth, Brooklyn, New York. Brooklyn. The twelfth, Boise, Idaho, Scottsdale, Arizona on the fifteenth, Charlotte, North Carolina on the seventeenth.

2:54:24 The eighteenth, Tbilisi in Georgia, not the state, in the country. Another meet up report is required.

2:54:31 The nineteenth, King George in Virginia, Petaluma, California,

2:54:35 Wilmington, California also on the nineteenth, and that rounds it out. There's many more in October, November going through December. No Agenda meetups. This is the place where you will meet people that you never expected to meet. You will make friendships, some people get married,

2:54:50 connections and as you know, connection always brings you con protection.

2:54:54 Oh, is that you Matt or is that me? Yeah. It's me. Is that you?

2:54:57 Connection brings protection. In fact, these people will be your first responders in any emergency. Go to noagendameetups.com.

2:55:04 If you can't find a meetup near you, just start one yourself. It's easy. It's so easy. Matt can do it with help from his wife, Gail. No agendameetups.com.

2:55:13 Guaranteed always a party.

2:55:35 And that concludes our broadcast day.

2:55:38 Unfortunately,

2:55:39 no end of show ISO. People start sending those in again, will you? I just don't have time to make them.

2:55:45 Help me out, producers.

2:55:47 It would go a long way.

2:55:49 Now if you're listening on one of those modern podcast apps which notifies you when the bat signal goes out and the stream goes live, stay with us because congressional dish Jim Briney coming up next on the No Agenda stream. No. She will not be cohosting, and no. This is not a talent search show.

2:56:06 I am bringing in people, I wanna work with, I can work with, I know, and I'm friends with.

2:56:13 That's the way it's gonna go for the foreseeable future. I got no other ideas, people. Just support the show, noagendadonations.com.

2:56:20 That is the most helpful thing you can do is support us

2:56:25 by going to noagendadonations.com.

2:56:28 So looking forward to Sunday.

2:56:30 It should be another hootenanny because there's always something to deconstruct. There's always sense to be made of the crazy world you're in where everything, and I mean everything,

2:56:39 is about the midterms.

2:56:41 Thank you to Matt Long. Check him out, Matt Long Show,

2:56:44 as a podcast, and I will be back on Sunday. Until then,

2:56:49 and

2:56:52 such.

2:57:01 In the morning meatbags,

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2:57:08 In the morning, bag. In

2:57:13 the morning, meat bag.

2:57:17 In the morning, meat bag.

2:57:20 Lane 4 has been automated.

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  • United States

    Supreme Court mail-in voting ruling, trade war, tariffs, beef deal, immigration policy

  • Canada

    Trade war retaliation with 700 products from Sept 8, Lake Ontario renaming, aluminum dependency

  • Iran

    Operation Economic Outcast sanctions, rial hits two million, Iranian-backed hackers

  • California, USA

    New tire efficiency regulations from California Energy Commission

  • China

    Top purchaser of Iranian oil; vows to continue supporting Iran; Xi Jinping state visit

  • Arizona, USA

    State AG warns Supreme Court mail-in voting ruling would cause chaos; 80-90% vote by mail

  • Moscow, Russia

    CIA Director John Ratcliffe made unannounced overnight trip

  • Ontario, Canada

    Trump threatens to cut off business; Doug Ford on electricity export threats

  • Europe

    Energy costs from Middle East disruption; EU cultural unity via Eurovision

  • Gary, Indiana, USA

    Day 13 without power after storms

  • Michigan, USA

    Furniture business losing clients due to trade war; receives Canada's garbage

  • Netherlands

    Sixth biggest Eurovision contributor pulling out of contest

  • Spain

    Will not broadcast Eurovision Song Contest; big five contributor

  • Venezuela

    Trump administration in talks about ownership stake in oil resources

  • Ireland

    Will not broadcast Eurovision Song Contest

  • New Mexico, USA

    Judge ordered Meta to pay $900M for harm to children; potash production

  • New York, USA

    Letitia James and AGs file to block postal service rule; Mamdani millionaire tax

  • Tennessee, USA

    Dolly Parton's East Tennessee roots, Dollywood theme park

  • Beijing, China

    Humanoid robot games; machines outrunning Olympians

  • Nepal

    Glacier ice avalanche caused flash flood on Nepal-Tibet border

  • Nevada, USA

    DHS claimed 15,000 non-citizens registered to vote, turned out to be 185

  • United Kingdom

    British power plant shut down for four days by Iranian-backed hackers

  • Vienna, Austria

    Eurovision Song Contest 2026 host city amid boycotts

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