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0:00 The guy's out of control.

0:01 He's insane.

0:03 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, 06/21/2026.

0:08 This is your award winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode eighteen seventy nine. This is No Agenda.

0:15 Houston

0:16 Orange and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley,

0:27 where we're wishing everybody a happy Father's Day, at least in The United States. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning.

0:35 I I think it's,

0:37 Father's Day everywhere, isn't it?

0:39 Not that I know of. It's Father's Day in in Holland.

0:43 Is it? Yeah. Is it in Canada? Canada never has anything the same day.

0:49 No. I think it's only Mother's Day that is different in different countries for some reason.

0:54 Well, Thanksgiving is totally different. Well, yeah, because, know, we have our own They do have one in Canada but it's like that in the first, I believe. Yeah. Well, yes. But I think Father's Day is the same everywhere.

1:06 Pretty sure.

1:07 Pretty sure. Pretty sure. Well, that's the robot.

1:10 Let's get off to a rousing start.

1:13 Okay.

1:14 Alright.

1:15 Book of Knowledge.

1:17 Is Father's Day celebrated on the same day around the world? Alright.

1:21 We're off to a start with the book of knowledge with a question that cannot stump him. According

1:30 to the book of knowledge,

1:32 father's day is not on the same day in the country. Oh, no. The third Sunday of June June, today, June twenty first first, is observed in some 86 countries from The United States and The UK to India, Japan, and Mexico.

1:46 But Catholic Europe honors fathers on March 19.

1:50 The feast of Saint Joseph. Oh. The Southern Hemisphere waits until spring spring. Germany ties the day to ascension. No.

1:58 No. No. Ta da. You're right. When you're right, you're right. Okay. Well, happy Father's Day except for you Germans. Except for you Germans. And Catholic You don't care. You don't care about your dad's. The fatherland

2:11 of all places.

2:13 The what is Catholic Europe anyway? I'm not so sure I I've I I know where Catholic Europe is.

2:19 I think it means all the countries that are except for the pagans

2:22 in Switzerland.

2:24 Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. And the the Lutherans in Holland.

2:28 I don't know if there's a lot of Lutherans in Holland.

2:31 Places

2:32 are you kidding? There's

2:33 nothing left in Holland. All the churches are Airbnb's

2:37 and WeWork.

2:39 Yeah. There's there's

2:41 not much going on in that regard.

2:43 Anyway, a little bit of sports ball to kick it off everybody. Go Dutch. Go Orange.

2:48 Five to one against Sweden. I gotta tell you, I I got the World Cup fever.

2:53 I got the fever. Did you watch the game? Yes. I watched the You watched the whole game? The whole game. I did. Wow. Yeah. Did you do you know their song? Everyone loves their song.

3:04 It's a Dutch song.

3:06 What is it? Let's go, Dutch.

3:13 The roof is coming off.

3:18 Get ready for the corners, John. Here

3:21 we go. Here

3:23 we go. From side to side. To

3:27 the left.

3:28 To the left.

3:29 And to the right.

3:32 The

3:34 Dutch can't help it. They are just a humpa pa country.

3:38 Well, got that from the Germans. Yeah. Of course. They are of Dutch blood. It's even in their in their national anthem.

3:44 Am I of German blood?

3:47 That's in the and they are. Of course, they are. So are the English. Everyone's from German blood. But somehow, the Dutch celebrate Father's Day on the regular normal day as 86 countries and Not Catholic.

3:59 Exactly.

4:01 Oh, man. So I got all the I got all the morning shows.

4:05 I believe you have some analysis

4:08 clips of the

4:09 Iran deal. That deal falling apart once again

4:13 as predicted.

4:15 Let's On this show. So let's let's start with

4:19 now, is this SS all the way or is it just the

4:24 I'm sorry. SF all the way? SS. SS, you know. SS. Yeah. You're your buddy. Scott. Yeah.

4:32 You spotted it. Alright. But but there's one here Simon. There's one here that says Iran fail NNPR.

4:39 Is that the first one or The one okay. We're we're gonna play these, then we start with the, overall one which was is the no. No. The no. It's the no. Iran failed lean on as NPR.

4:52 The preliminary agreement president Trump signed when she That's What? You're

4:57 playing Iran failed Lennon as NPR?

5:00 Yes.

5:02 Iran fail Lennon

5:04 SS NPR.

5:06 Okay. Is that is that incorrect?

5:10 Welp.

5:11 Well, you have this one. Have this one. Iran's military said today and That's it. Okay. That was the one I wanted to play. Oh, that's I'm sorry. That's Iran fail. Right? That's the reason I wanna play that first is because it's an overview. Yeah. Okay. Okay. You need to work on the label No. It's my fault. Iran's military says to close the Strait Of Hormuz again because of Israel's continued attacks on Hezbollah in Lebanon.

5:34 NPR's Jaina Raff has more. Iran is now saying that it was Washington's job to ensure Israel adhered to that ceasefire,

5:42 and it calls it a violation

5:45 of the understanding that fighting is still going on. They say that violation,

5:50 those ceasefire violations

5:52 call the entire agreement between The US and Iran,

5:56 including the opening of the Strait Of Hormuz, into question.

5:59 That's after Israeli attacks Friday and Saturday, mostly

6:04 Southern Lebanon where Israeli forces have invaded and they're trying to take more territory.

6:10 Hezbollah is fighting back there, so not much of a ceasefire. Pakistani officials who've been mediating the talks between US and Iran on ending the war along with Qatar say the negotiations will resume tomorrow in Switzerland.

6:24 This is quite annoying what Israel is doing,

6:29 and it's it's it's kind of unclear.

6:32 I mean, there's no I couldn't find any real reporting on what's going on between Israel. Is it is Lebanon still lobbing bombs in? I mean, all I hear is, oh, they're trying to capture more territory. Is that true? I don't get this very little analysis other than,

6:46 hey, they're they're screwing up the deal.

6:50 That's what it's I I'm not gonna argue that, but there was some analysis in these clips

6:55 which we'll play, which is the we'll start with the analysis SSNPR,

6:59 which is Israel

7:01 anal

7:02 analysis.

7:04 Yes. So we're we're we're leaving

7:08 Leon Leonon SS. Well, we can play that first if you want because that's pre analysis. And and I presume Leonon is Lebanon. I'm just guessing. You know, that should be played last night. Oh, that That's what it means. Thank you. You're better at this than I am.

7:23 Alright. Here we go. Israel, who went to war with Iran alongside The US, has been highly critical of the framework for a potential deal between Iran and The US. This has not been received well in the White House, where president Trump and vice president J. D. Vance used uncharacteristically

7:39 tough language this week against The US ally.

7:43 NPR's Ron Elvin joins us. Ron, thanks for being with us. Good to be with you, Scott. President Trump uses good. What I'll call choice word. Scott, who is that guy? Good to be with you, Scott. It's wonderful to be with So I I looked into this guy. Yeah. Because he's got a He's got points. Because he's always on, and he's the final arbiter. He's the last word. He did bring bring him on. So I looked him up. He's a graduate of of,

8:07 I think it's Chicago, but he's at Stanford and Cal Berkeley. Yeah. He's

8:12 got he's he's he's a teaches at a lot of the spook schools. Nah. And but he doesn't seem to be a spook, but maybe he is. Good to be with you, Scott. He's But he's got but his his background is good enough that I think he's an he can do this job and he's not like a phony.

8:29 Okay. Well, one thing's for sure You got some pipes on him. Join us, Ron. Thanks for being with us. Well, I'm a thank you, Scott. Good to be with you, Scott. President Trump used some what I'll call choice words in an interview this week. Choice words. Why don't you just use the words? Whenever he says shithole country, you have no problem saying it. Why don't you just use the words, Scott? Be talking about prime minister Netanyahu's

8:51 decision to launch second.

8:53 Was thinking about this.

8:55 So there's a concern, of course, that the FCC is gonna crack down

8:59 on

9:00 cussing on the air. Right? Is there? So what if you play a clip of Trump, the president of The United States,

9:07 cussing up a storm,

9:09 the choice words in this case, you just use that clip. Mhmm. What would the FCC do? Would they bust you,

9:16 or would they bust the president? Well, what would happen? Well, if this was over the air and not a podcast, and if they Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. If they really were enforcing that, which to my knowledge, they've never enforced

9:28 the seven dirty words ever. They moan about it. Yeah. They moan about it. But the you remember that every every news outlet was going shithole country and this and that and you and drop an f bomb something. Well, that's cable. No. Haven't heard any f Cable doesn't count. But when we were on MTV

9:47 and somehow the FCC they were afraid of the FCC. Although, I don't think the FCC don't regulate cable, do they? They don't. It it's it was the cable operators who who put the fear of God into everybody. Oh, you better not do anything nasty before 10PM.

10:03 But if it was in the clip, like in a video clip, MTV will get in trouble, not Madonna or whoever.

10:08 So, yeah, of course, it would be the it would be the broadcaster because they're president of The United States. Yeah. So you're saying that's newsworthy?

10:17 No. Is that don't newsworthy

10:19 or not, doesn't the president Trump the f Trump, no pun intended, Trump the FCC?

10:25 Yeah. I don't know.

10:27 This is a question I have not pondered, and I think we don't need to do it here either. Okay. We're done. President Trump used some, what I'll call, choice words in an interview this week, talking about prime minister Netanyahu's

10:39 decision to launch strikes on Beirut

10:42 right before the MOU was agreed to.

10:45 Words we cannot play on the air. Let's just say that he

10:49 he questioned the Israeli prime minister's judgment.

10:52 Then vice president J. D. Vance was asked during an interview with the New York Times whether he thought Israel has incentives

10:58 for the agreement not to go through,

11:01 and this is what the vice president posed to Israeli critics. What is your exact proposal?

11:06 And, you know, you're you're a country of of 9,000,000 people.

11:10 You can't just kill your way out of solving every single national security problem that you have. I mean, how come these guys aren't dead yet? Why has Mossad not assassinated them? They doesn't everybody know that Israel controls these guys? Controls all of congress? What is happening here? I'm freaking out. Why this kind of rhetoric?

11:29 There's so much at stake here, Scott. There's the fragile ceasefire

11:34 that may or may not be holding for the moment as we just heard from Jane Arraf. Then there's the fate of the MOU between The US and Iran.

11:43 There's at least a short term chance for peace in the region,

11:46 and then there's the future of the relationship

11:50 between The US and Israel that's been so important to both for almost eighty years. So two months ago the current war began with coordinated attacks by The US and Israel on Iran and its ally Hezbollah in Lebanon.

12:02 Now the Trump administration wants to dial back, make a deal, or at least start to make one, so the world oil market can recover and stop endangering The US economy and the world economy.

12:13 But Israel still sees itself fighting a threat at its doorstep from Hezbollah.

12:18 So

12:20 I I had a brief conversation with sir Brian of London, He's in Tel Aviv.

12:25 And he's like, you guys don't understand.

12:27 He says, four of our soldiers got killed by Hezbollah.

12:30 So we gotta strike back.

12:32 I'm like, well, who start I don't know who started. Did they did they fire first? I mean, there's just so little analysis of what's really going on there.

12:42 But the president does not seem to be happy nor the vice president with this.

12:46 No. Because they're They're ruining the deal. Yeah. They they wanna get this this the straits open to keep the economy, world economy.

12:55 Sorry. We can handle no no oil. We got plenty. We can make it ourselves, but it's a It's a bad look. Can't be laggard,

13:03 but the world it's a bad look. World economy has issues, we have issues. Yeah. The things is interconnected. Yeah. It's a bad look too. It's like we we gotta deal. Bad look. It's a bad look. Come on. Netanyahu,

13:13 it's a bad look. Netanyahu's

13:15 gotta go. This guy's been in too long.

13:18 Well, it's not just him. We got members of his own cabinet saying, this is a bad deal. And

13:24 and from what I hear from my my friends boots on the ground, they they're like, no, no, no. This this is about us.

13:33 What do you mean it's about us?

13:34 About Israel. Like, we're being our soldiers are being killed. My son's going to war. I it has to fight against Hezbollah. We have to fight back.

13:43 That's that's the messages I'm hearing.

13:46 Yeah. But aren't the soldiers that were killed, the Israeli soldiers, weren't they killed in Lebanon? This is what I don't know. We have no clue. There's no one is where's the boots on the ground from the news media?

13:59 The news media stinks. When the agreement to extend the ceasefire and open the Strait Of Hormuz was announced, president Trump hailed it as a success.

14:07 But it is being questioned

14:09 by many critics at home,

14:11 most notably some members of his own party. What can you tell us?

14:15 Conservative hardline Republicans are saying that this deal seems, if it is a deal, seems to squander the military's successes

14:23 of the past two months in exchange for little or nothing beyond a return to where things stood in February when ships were flowing through the Strait Of Hormuz. As for nuclear weapons, Iran is apparently only required to say they won't develop them ever

14:39 and to have more negotiations on the subject.

14:42 And in exchange The US has offered to lift sanctions on Iran and make available some of Iran's financial assets

14:48 that have been frozen, and even set up a fund to rebuild what Iran lost in the recent fighting. So some of these Republicans who object have been doubters for a while, others might

14:58 have been political,

15:00 let's say, rivals of the president at one time, others had political scores to settle with Trump, but then you have such loyalists

15:07 as Roger Wicker, Mississippi chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

15:12 These people seem genuinely surprised and distressed at this turn of events. Wicker for one says that the Iranians

15:19 will use every penny that they get from this new arrangement to further their ultimate goals, which are death to America, death to Israel. And yet, Trump has lumped all these Republican critics together and dismissed them as quote fools.

15:34 Okay.

15:35 And that was actually not bad, his analysis there.

15:38 No. That's pretty good. And everybody is, you know, piling on Oh. In terms of the republicans. Oh, yeah. Almost everybody. I I have some clips coming up. Almost everybody. Oh, okay. Good. Yeah. I think this might I think this this will be the we got this there's one more analysis clip and then I think the Lebanon wrap. The negotiations,

15:55 the announcement of the agreement all occurred while the president was in France for the g seven. And because the president has so much global responsibility,

16:02 is under unrelenting pressure at all times, a lot of observers noted,

16:07 he looked and sounded tired.

16:09 The Wednesday news conference was especially Jude.

16:12 He looked tired. Oh, no. He's he's 80. He looked tired. Oh, this is no good. No good. I was looking a lot of those clips,

16:21 and he didn't look that tired. I didn't look that tired to me. Compared to Biden. Well but I've seen Trump look tired. He didn't look that tired. Yeah. He gets tired when he if you travel overseas and you gotta, you know, you lose your sleep rhythm and you gotta sleep on the seven well, of course, he's he's got a big bed in there, but he's he's probably busy. He's probably he doesn't get a lot of sleep as it is. No. It's like, okay. But

16:43 the insinuation here for Scott Scheinman is she's old and she's tired. He looked and sounded tired.

16:49 The Wednesday news conference was especially striking. Trump was rambling,

16:53 often off topic, lacking his usual bravado. What? What what? Just because he talked about granite?

17:00 The granite was fantastic. But it was hard not to notice the contrast with French president Emmanuel Macron,

17:06 who is after all thirty two years younger and hosted the summit with grace and assurance.

17:10 Grace and assurance.

17:12 Boy, pomp circumstance has been bumped for grace and assurance.

17:16 Where did this come in? That just was giggling to hear that. Grace and assurance.

17:22 I'm writing that down.

17:25 Yeah. Baby. Sounds like two sisters. You

17:28 cooked that dinner with grace and assurance. He was younger and hosted the summit with grace and assurance.

17:33 There was a little spat over a picture to be taken with the Italian prime minister, George Maloney.

17:38 Trump said she'd begged him to take a picture with her. She took strong exception to that. I take exception. Now the Italian Foreign Minister has cancelled a trip to The US.

17:47 And then Scott, at the end of the conference when the G7 leaders posed for their usual class picture after the meeting, Trump stood as a caucus of one, while the others conferred and engaged with each other. Oh.

18:00 Oh. Okay. So I was I was looking for that that He's all alone on this on this in the school yard. There was a moment

18:07 at the end where everybody kind of they would they took a either

18:12 it was either before or after the group shot.

18:15 Mhmm. They all scattered around, and they were all yakking with each other, and Trump was not yakking with anybody.

18:20 So for the moment that and which was not unusual for this entire event, him to be wandering around by himself and then engaging with one person or another just,

18:31 you know,

18:32 incidentally.

18:34 I just thought it was a a one

18:36 it was that

18:38 commentary was taken from a photo op showing Trump standing there kind of it was a funny picture. I finally tracked it down. But we've done that with, Zelensky

18:48 where he's looking like a little lost schoolboy.

18:50 Yeah. You can do that with anybody. Just follow him along enough and they're gonna be by themselves for the minute. Take a shot. Yeah. Look at this poor guy. That's perfect. So I thought that was, I thought that was,

19:01 inaccurate,

19:02 an inaccurate description

19:04 of things. Yeah. Or or or it was mean.

19:07 Oh.

19:08 Oh. He's sleepy and he's all alone. That preliminary agreement president Trump signed Wednesday with Iran explicitly

19:15 includes Lebanon and the ceasefire, but as you've reported, it hasn't really been fully enforced.

19:21 Where does that leave the wider agreement with Iran?

19:24 Well, as we've seen, Israel believes it's not bound by that wider agreement, which calls for ensuring Lebanon's sovereignty and territorial

19:33 integrity.

19:34 In fact, defense minister Israel Katz said the Israeli military is destroying Lebanese border villages, including infrastructure,

19:42 making it impossible for 200,000

19:44 residents to return.

19:46 And Israeli troops are trying to take a strategic

19:49 Hezbollah position deeper into Lebanon.

19:52 Hezbollah has been attacking Israeli tanks and troops to prevent that advance.

19:57 Earlier this week, you were in, Nabataea,

20:00 still a center of fighting. What's life like there?

20:03 There is an awful lot of destruction, including downtown in the historic Ottoman era market, hundreds of years old. All of that was heavily damaged.

20:15 Met one of the 10 residents, Najeeb Ayad, a little further into the city. He was returning briefly to see the damage to his apartment.

20:23 So a part of the building had collapsed, and there was so much rubble, it was difficult to get through the door even.

20:29 There was the sound of artillery in the distance. You could see smoke rising.

20:33 And inside,

20:34 all the glass had been blown out, including the balcony doors. And then this side of you He's saying, you see that castle? See what it looks like?

20:42 And he says the Israelis are still there. And from his balcony, you can see the Beaufort Castle. It's a Crusader era fortress on a strategic hill that's now occupied by Israeli forces. So

20:57 he said that as long as Israeli forces are that close, he could never move back. Yeah.

21:05 This is

21:07 it to me, it feels like Netanyahu has to have some kind of conflict going because he has elections coming up and he needs to be a wartime president. Yeah. I think this is like a George Bush phenomenon. Yeah. Otherwise, he get he gets kicked out. I mean, that just that just seems obvious. Remember the one election that George Bush ran for reelection and they and they had that's when they had the posters of the various colors that's showing the the possibility

21:32 of a a terrorist attack, and there was the red and the yellow alert and the green alert they had at the airports. Yeah. I remember. Of course. And they soon it's just they're just before the election. Everybody we had they went to orange alert.

21:45 And and They made a big fuss about going to orange alert and they printed up all these posters Yeah. But with the orange alert. Yeah. The posters, but there was no interchangeable color. They were just orange.

21:55 Yeah. And they stayed orange forever.

21:57 They were permanently orange. It was you couldn't put a little green sticker over them. It was all orange.

22:03 Yeah. Yeah. This doesn't feel very good. Well, I have from the morning shows, I have two guests.

22:11 The first one is Susan Rice.

22:14 Gosh.

22:14 She's still around. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And The twerp. And she's there to to sow propaganda

22:20 and to

22:22 to make Obama look good, of course, because she was part of that original JCPOA.

22:28 So a couple of clips from her and then the surprise guest or or not a surprise guest, but with surprise information. You called this

22:35 memorandum of an understanding a jaw dropping

22:38 horrific

22:39 surrender.

22:40 With reparations.

22:42 So so what why? Reparations.

22:44 You see, she's she's already going straight for reparations.

22:47 Is it so egregious?

22:49 It's egregious, John, because so many concessions were granted upfront

22:54 in this flimsy two page memorandum of understanding

22:57 that wouldn't normally and shouldn't have been granted until after

23:02 there was not only a fully comprehensive

23:05 deal to at least deal with their nuclear program,

23:09 but also that those provisions that were negotiated had been agreed. So let me just explain to you some of the things that were conceded upfront.

23:18 As the secretary just acknowledged,

23:21 Iran as of the signing of the agreement, so on Thursday,

23:25 is now able to sell all of its oil and all of its oil products on the market unimpeded.

23:31 Well, that's a good thing for the world. Okay? Yeah. That's that that's kind of what we want. Everybody wants that.

23:39 Well, she's a very very very annoying person. To market unimpeded

23:42 and use that money to rebuild itself. And use the banking system And use the banking system. Under the Obama nuclear deal, we couldn't

23:50 have relief from oil sanctions. They didn't need the banking system. We gave them cash. Until the deal was Pallets. Pallets of cash. Fully implemented, not just preliminarily

24:02 agreed. Secondly,

24:04 they get access

24:05 to tens of billions of dollars of frozen assets

24:09 in the very near term within the next sixty days contingent only upon

24:14 the memorandum of understanding this flimsy two page document

24:18 being implemented. That mean Repeat after me. Flimsy two page document. Flimsy

24:23 it's it's so flimsy.

24:25 The paper was just like rice paper so like onion skin. So this is this is already

24:32 not true because first of all,

24:35 general patent on the down low, he's he's the one controlling it and we're not giving them all of their money back. It's drips and drabs when we feel it's appropriate. But I guess that's not reflected in the flimsy two page document. On the memorandum of understanding this flimsy two page document being implemented. That means essentially, once they've opened the strait, they get all the access to their frozen assets without any constraint on how they spend it. In the Obama era deal, they could only spend those frozen assets on humanitarian things, food and medicine. Now they can use it to fund their terrorist proxies. Ah. Yes. That's what they will do because they like bombs on their heads. And now she's By the way, and that there wasn't any enforcement,

25:19 angle to the Obama deal that they could enforce what she said. No. There was bullcrap. She's just lying. But it wasn't a flimsy two page document. It was hundreds of pages of carefully crafted diplomatic language,

25:31 which You know, if you've written the last newsletter I sent out, which I discussed some of the funny aspects of this, which is both the Council on Foreign Relations and Chatham House Yeah. Well, same thing. This is the same thing. Of the global globalist

25:47 the

25:49 globalists,

25:50 let's just say. Mhmm.

25:52 They were pretty much

25:54 expressed the exact same thing.

25:57 In fact, the Chatham House called this a surrender.

26:01 Yeah. Or we lost. We lost the war. No. Trump. Trump lost. We didn't Trump lost war. The war of choice. Yeah. And

26:09 it's all, like, all part of this let's, you know, we gotta They're clawing back. They're trying to claw back territory. They're trying to claw back

26:17 their system. Like, Trump tried it The system. Yeah. This Yeah. Which has been Yeah.

26:22 Trump is ruining their system. Yes. And they're so they're trying to claw it back in the hearts of minds, and they're doing with grace

26:29 and assurance.

26:31 Iran, thirdly,

26:32 will now be able after sixty days to charge fees for the transit of ships

26:39 through the Strait Of Moose. This is this is a great reading of the document.

26:45 So what she's saying is after sixty days, they can go right back to charging tolls.

26:50 But that's not really what the from what I No. It doesn't say that at all. No. It's it's a an extrapolation.

26:57 But if after sixty days Of things going south. Yes. So I was like, okay. So it's pre assumed that things are gonna go south. Her analysis is based on presumption. Yes. And they could never have done before.

27:10 They get $300,000,000,000

27:13 from The United States and our golf partners No. That the concentrations Well, actually, Jonathan Karl, I'm gonna give him props. He says, no. No. No. No. No. No.

27:22 No. But she she parays that with grace and assurance. Billion dollars

27:27 from The United States and our golf partners. Now now the administration says the Once the deal is none of that's gonna come from the That's United not what the agreement says. It says United States

27:37 with our golf partners

27:38 will ensure that they get that money. No. That's

27:42 not that's I read the agreement. I don't think it says, hey,

27:46 us and our golf partners will assure you get that money. No. No. No. No. There will be a fund.

27:53 When there's a final deal. And then two other things. Yes. When the deal is done, they say all sanctions

28:01 against Iran, bilateral and multilateral,

28:04 will be lifted.

28:05 Under the Obama deal,

28:07 after they had fully implemented everything, it was only the nuclear related sanctions that were lifted. And fine. One last point.

28:14 The

28:15 other crazy thing about this memorandum of understanding that sets us back enormously is that we commit

28:21 to withdraw

28:22 US military forces

28:24 from the vicinity of Iran. That means our base is in The Gulf. Are we walking away from the Middle East as a result of this deal? The the the administration would say no, and they would say that the, that that that those frozen assets, although it I know exactly what it says in the Memorandum of Understanding. They say there has to be progress on the nuclear talks first. Right. Exactly.

28:44 But she's

28:47 Iran won this war, people. Most of our allies in the region seem to welcome this because it meant an end to the war.

28:55 Isn't a weak peace agreement

28:58 better than a resumption of a war, which I know you oppose from this time? I oppose this war because it was a stupid war, and it was obvious

29:06 that when you wage a stupid war, that every prior president had the wisdom to avoid,

29:12 that you were gonna end up with either bad outcomes or worse outcomes. So this this is a great upside down analysis she has.

29:20 You can say every other president avoided the war

29:24 because it wouldn't work or you could say, well, maybe it was time to do something.

29:28 And she's she's she's very convinced. She has a lot of conviction. Oh, she's she's unbelievable. She has conviction. Ends what you saw as a stupid war. It ends a stupid war, which that's

29:38 you get back to Why is she the even on?

29:41 Well, that's Why is why is she even booked? Who's the booker? Well, she's she is Obama?

29:47 So is this this is Obama. Is the Obama makes sense. This is the Obama camp talking here. Shalkems, this is a very bad outcome. I obviously think we shouldn't have been in this war in the first place because it was obvious for decades that the only way to resolve this problem is through diplomacy and No, lady.

30:05 And also, why isn't she using war of choice? She's saying stupid war.

30:11 Yeah. She's making a mistake. You're to say war of choice. She's using the By the talking point. The the one of the funniest talking points that the Chatham House had is that they call it the memorandum

30:21 of lack of understanding.

30:23 Oh,

30:24 that's a British understatement.

30:26 They're so funny. Back to diplomacy with a far weaker hand. Yes. Their military has been degraded,

30:32 but Iran has now figured out They can use the Strait Of Hormuz to hold us and the global economy hostage. But they figured that out before.

30:40 Yeah. I know. It's it's this is

30:42 Jesus. Okay. One more because this is a clip about Israel. Here, let's take a look at just what J. D. Vance said last week.

30:49 Donald j Trump is

30:51 the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic

30:56 to the nation of Israel at this moment in time, and he happens to be the head of state of the world superpower.

31:02 If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government,

31:05 I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world.

31:11 First of is that is that an accurate description of the state affairs? It's an extraordinary statement. You said Trump is the only head of state sympathetic to the nation of Israel, that The United States is the only powerful ally that Israel has in the entire world. Is that I'd say that's pretty much correct at this point in time. Agree with you. This is absolutely

31:29 correct. Is that true? You know, I I think that was an extraordinary statement.

31:34 Extraordinary. Extraordinary.

31:36 Extraordinary. Extraordinary statement. I

31:39 think that was an extraordinary statement and

31:42 and I'm sure it shocked a lot of people Shocked. Particularly in Israel.

31:47 Shocked. One of the the outcomes

31:50 of this is, you know, as president as prime minister Netanyahu has himself publicly acknowledged on many occasions, he has tried to persuade

31:59 many prior presidents

32:01 to engage in war with Israel against Iran

32:05 and

32:06 promising that that would result

32:08 in regime change and an end to Iran posing any threat. This is her version of, BB made us do it. What we've got as a result of that war, which president Trump was the first to,

32:19 take the bait on George took the Take bait. Is the bait. The Rand dummy.

32:24 Of its geopolitical

32:25 stature in the region, not militarily, conventionally in the short term, but its nuclear program is fully intact. There is nothing in that agreement that requires that the nuclear material, the dust, as the president likes to call it will stay there. Removed from Iran. It will Or or destroy there. It just has to be the glue. Stay in place. But the Israelis have have suffered the most because now,

32:45 you know,

32:47 this administration,

32:48 if you take the president and the vice president's words, has basically said to Israel, your concerns are not ours. Yeah. That's exactly what they're saying.

32:57 And rightly so at this point.

32:59 So then we have on CBS

33:02 with Margaret,

33:03 Lindsey Graham. And I know normally I was groaning too, like, oh, Lindsey Graham.

33:08 He is so stupid.

33:10 I think he he

33:12 basically explains

33:14 the whole plan

33:17 in quite some detail,

33:19 and I I was,

33:21 like, wow. Do you think he's stupid because he he gave up the ghost or why why do you think he's stupid in this case? Well, first, let's I mean, we both think he's kind of dumb,

33:29 but in this case, what did he do? Well, first, let's start off with a typical Lindsey Graham, opener of the interview. There's a lot that still hasn't been figured out here in this deal.

33:40 But you wrote nine days ago the idea of a US plan with partners to create a fund of at least $300,000,000,000.

33:47 This is point six in the memorandum.

33:49 It's tone deaf,

33:51 and it's akin to a Marshall Plan for Germany with the Nazis still in charge. See, this is see, this is where Lindsey started a day or two ago,

34:01 and right away, he starts changing his tunes. That caught my my attention.

34:06 He does. Why did you change your position and now you support it?

34:12 Well, it's because stop the clip for a second? Yeah. The reason it

34:16 if you remember,

34:18 it was probably when we did the last show at that there was some moment, and I think we maybe even played the clip of it, or you may have had it. I I don't remember having it, but it was Trump somebody commenting to Trump about these Republicans who are bitching and moaning like Cruz and the rest of them. And somebody said to Trump, Lindsey Graham is is made some criticism of what you're doing there.

34:40 And then Trump said something like, oh, what? Well, I'm gonna have to talk to him about that.

34:46 And he made some assertion Yeah. I do remember that clip. Yes. That that he was talking out of class.

34:51 And so it's possible

34:53 that he wrote that one thing. That's what became the comment that was asked of Trump, and then Trump's response resulted in what we're hearing gonna hear now. I think you're correct.

35:04 Because, before, I thought the money was coming from the West.

35:07 If the West funds Iran,

35:09 I think that would be a Marshall Plan with a Nazi still in charge for Germany.

35:15 The plan envisions the Sunni Arabs

35:19 yeah. If the Sunni Arabs do it. Can you imagine if Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and The United Arab Emirates

35:26 invest $300,000,000,000

35:28 in Iran? That would tell me that Iran has changed. To all the experts out there, do you think Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and The United Arab Emirates are gonna invest in Iran with a theocracy bent on destroying Sunni Islam. So think think it through.

35:42 If if the money comes from the Sunni Arab world Yeah. I hope it happens.

35:47 It would mean that the Sunni Arabs believe that Iran has changed to the point they wanna be a business partner.

35:53 I pray that happens. I doubt if it will. You see, Lindsey Graham

35:58 is not smart enough to think of it that way. This is the talk he got. Hey, man. Shut up. Don't you see what's happening here? Because it, you know, Saudi Arabia

36:08 and Iran,

36:09 they've been at war in, you know, by proxy in Yemen for as long as this show has been going on. That's true. You know, like bombing the all of the Yemenis.

36:19 Back and forth. Because, you know, one Arab does not equal the other Arab. It's Sunni versus Shia. This is poorly understood in the West. Well, that's the but and there's also not the per the Iranians are not Arabs.

36:31 It's I'm sorry. Yes. Correct.

36:33 But we're talking about the IRGC

36:35 and the leadership.

36:37 So

36:38 when I hear this, I immediately knew, oh, wait a minute.

36:41 This has got to be with the Abraham Accords because this this is this is Trump's signature move.

36:48 He and and no wonder Israel hates this. His his idea Israel had cannot like what's gonna happen. His his whole idea is If he pulls it off. Well,

36:58 I think Lindsey Graham is giving is lifting a little tip of the veil to explain just the tip. With Lindsay, it's always just the tip. To to explain

37:07 what the plan is here. And the plan is funny enough actually based on,

37:13 Iran not adhering to the MOU

37:16 and the ceasefire. Well, I wanna ask about some of the criticism of the agreement from your fellow Republican colleagues. Take a listen.

37:24 If we give billions of dollars to Iran, that money will be used to murder Americans. And so I don't believe we should do So Ted Cruz,

37:33 who I think is a smart guy,

37:35 did he really think that did he really buy into the the propaganda

37:40 that America was somehow gonna give this $300,000,000,000?

37:44 Is he that stupid?

37:45 It is it possible that Ted Cruz was given a role?

37:49 Oh,

37:50 the heel.

37:51 I

37:52 love this. Yes. Very possible. To Iran that money will be To smoke out the other douchebags.

37:58 That would be possible. That's may because truce is not dumb. Used to murder Americans,

38:04 and so I don't believe we should do that. They'll use the money that, is being

38:08 released,

38:10 to rebuild their their ballistic missile arsenal

38:13 and,

38:14 begin to enrich again.

38:16 And, that's

38:18 gonna be a continuing danger.

38:20 Even though it's not really discussed in these clips, there is a difference between ballistic missiles and intercontinental

38:25 ballistic missiles, just as a side note. That money Yeah. Ballistic missile can be a short just a little Yeah. Could be like a a rocket, little rocket that goes to Israel. That's not intercontinental.

38:35 It's gonna be a continuing danger.

38:37 That money, Brooke, we know is not gonna go to build new hospitals or day cares. It's gonna go to replenish their drone stockpiles,

38:45 their missiles We know this. To support terrorists like Hezbollah

38:49 and Hamas. We have 13 Americans dead. We've spent anywhere from 25 to a $100,000,000

38:54 in munitions,

38:56 and it turns out we lost a credible threat of attacking racism.

39:01 There's a lot of stuff in there that's bad.

39:04 All of those Republicans

39:05 are seriously

39:07 doubting the president here, senator Graham. Do you agree with their concerns?

39:13 No. I don't.

39:15 Not giving any money to Iran that can change I mean, this Wow. Yeah. This is so not Lindsey Graham. No. I don't. No. He's I'm come on. We're not giving any money to Iran that can change the course of history to try diplomacy.

39:31 Is the MOU problematic?

39:33 Yeah.

39:34 I'd rather try diplomacy than take it off the table. The money Iran gets is not gonna change

39:40 the the future of Iran. It's not enough to reconstruct the the country.

39:44 If you don't have a diplomatic

39:46 path through the MOU, then you have to go to war or some other form of coercion.

39:52 Let's try this.

39:54 Let's try a diplomatic solution. Now, this is where I think he starts to unveil the plan.

40:00 And it's it's a violent plan, but it is a plan. I think it's gonna fail.

40:04 What happens next?

40:06 I spent four and a half hours with president Trump Friday.

40:10 Oh,

40:11 this is good. I've given you the borderline clip of the day already. Oh, I will accept your borderline clip of the day.

40:19 I can see this coming. Oh, yeah. No. It's and so he got the full playbook

40:25 and I think because Yeah. Four hour four hours worth of lectures. Four hour no one gets four hours with Trump.

40:32 Melania doesn't. No one gets four hours with Trump.

40:35 So he got yeah. He got the full lowdown

40:38 and now Lindsey Graham is gonna lay this out. The I think the exact plan

40:43 and of course, everyone's like, Lindsey Graham's stupid. And he may be, but I think he's telling us what's gonna happen. I think it's gonna fail. What happens next?

40:52 I spent four and a half hours with president Trump Friday. Here's what I think will happen next. If this deal fails,

40:59 president Trump is gonna take the Strait Of Hormuz over by force. The United States will control the Strait Of Hormuz.

41:06 We'll charge a fee for all those who go three through to pay for the operation,

41:10 and we're going to expand the Abraham Accords in calendar year 2026.

41:15 We're gonna get Saudi Arabia join the Abraham Accords. This is the big statesman,

41:20 senator Lindsey Graham, who all of a sudden is like, we're gonna do this. We're gonna get the Abraham Accords. We're gonna charge

41:27 everybody for the Straits Of Hormuz.

41:29 Yeah. This is hardly it's not presented as speculation.

41:32 No. I mean, it's not you

41:35 you can tell the difference between when somebody's telling you something they think is here's some possibilities, and you usually have a few different ones. But when you have this self assured

41:46 one, two, three, this is what's gonna happen, this is somebody else's talking, not you. This is the plan.

41:52 This is it. And Iran I think you nailed it. Yeah. Iran has a slim chance, a slim chance if they say, okay, we're gonna play ball, but the idea is we need we Then need we know they won't play ball, so what he's saying is what's gonna happen? We need to get Saudi Arabia in the Arab Accords

42:10 and Israel doesn't like any of that, but they're gonna have to just do it. So we're gonna get Saudi Arabia in because they have Medina and Mecca and you know, they are the they're the center. They're the center of everything. Not Iran. You can't leave them out. No. We need those guys in the deal and this is what Trump is going for. It is it's ballsy. 2026,

42:30 we're gonna get Saudi Arabia joined the Abraham Accords

42:33 and, which is the biggest change in five thousand years in the Mideast. And if Iran contest

42:39 control of the Strait Of by The United States, we will obliterate them. So to all the people listening,

42:46 if this diplomatic

42:48 effort fails,

42:49 president Trump is gonna take the straight of Hormuz. We're gonna run it. We're gonna try to get Saudi Arabia to join the Abraham Accords in the Arab Israeli conflict in 2026.

43:00 And if Iran continues to attack Israel and Lebanon,

43:03 the new policy will be we'll hit Iran. So to to the Iranians, if you're listening, when you use Hezbollah to attack Israel, I think the new policy will be we will attack Iran.

43:14 I'm not so sure about that part,

43:17 but this last clip he just he just really it's all laid out and of course, it's all Lindsay's idea as you know. You have just laid out how you could turn what you think is a flawed document into an opportunity.

43:29 Because the great strategist Lindsay Graham.

43:32 Yes.

43:33 I took this flimsy two page document. I turned it into a strategy to solve everything in The Middle East. But you're also suggesting there that you can get Benjamin Netanyahu

43:43 or whoever is the next prime minister of Israel to recognize a Palestinian state, which is the price of normalization with Saudi Arabia.

43:51 How could you do that on the brink of an election?

43:54 Well, for for about two years, Margaret, in case you missed this,

43:58 I went to

43:59 Riyadh and Jerusalem working on normalization with president Biden.

44:04 Yes. We're gonna announce a framework to have Saudi joined the Abraham Accords

44:09 and

44:10 at the end of October in 2023.

44:13 Iran attacked on October 7.

44:15 That is an interesting timeline.

44:19 So they were they were close

44:22 supposedly to

44:23 getting the Abraham Accords or something like it.

44:26 Right? And what did he say? October October 3 and then October 7,

44:32 which and and remember,

44:35 this whole October 7,

44:37 as as horrible as it was,

44:39 was a security lapse

44:42 unparalleled

44:43 in all of Israeli history.

44:45 And we heard nothing but people saying, hey, man, they let that happen.

44:50 So if you're b b Netanyahu

44:52 and you don't want these Abraham Accords,

44:55 you might let something happen. I'm not accusing anybody, but it's I I it's it's a it's a valid

45:03 thesis.

45:04 Abraham Accords

45:05 and,

45:06 at the end of October in 2023.

45:09 Iran attacked on October 7.

45:12 That created a real problem. Their world is very upset about Gaza and everybody in Israel is very upset about October 7. But we're gonna pick up where we left off, and Donald Trump

45:23 is gonna empower me and others to jump start what we

45:28 an effort to get Saudi to join Israel.

45:31 There will be accommodations

45:32 made by Saudi and Israel to Saudi and Israel.

45:35 You have no better friend than Donald Trump. To Bibi, Donald Trump stood by you when other people wouldn't. I'm not asking you to do anything to jeopardize the future of Israel's security, but I am asking you to be open to expanding the Abraham Accords and finding a solution to Palestinians that are good for Israel

45:52 and quite frankly good for the world to the to Saudi Arabia.

45:57 Now

45:57 is the time to open

46:00 negotiations yet again Yeah. For you to expand the Abraham Accords, for you to join. I think this is gonna happen in 2026,

46:08 and it can happen until Iran's in a box. If we get a deal if we get a deal, Iran will be in a box. If we don't get a deal, Iran will be in a box.

46:17 To Lebanon, to the people in Lebanon, help is on the way. It's up. Hezbollah's been terrorizing your country for for a long time. That's about to end.

46:25 I think that's the that's the whole plan right there. Thank you, Lindsay. Now we know what to look for.

46:33 Super Wow. Super easy to see.

46:35 Like, okay, listen in Ron. We're gonna let you we give you sixty days

46:39 and either you do it our way and then Saudi Arabia, come on, we got these guys in a box.

46:46 You don't wanna play? Okay.

46:48 Then we'll take it all over

46:51 with another war of choice.

46:54 Another war of choice.

46:56 Another war of choice.

46:58 Yeah. Well, I think we did the whole

47:01 we solved it. We analyzed it better than anyone. Yeah. I think we're pretty good at it.

47:07 Well,

47:08 we nailed it. Well, we could we we could pat ourselves on the back in sixty days. We'll see. We'll see. But it is it seems

47:17 I don't know. I mean, we we we just we really don't know, obviously.

47:23 Anything could happen. Anything could happen. Let's just let's talk about the opening of the

47:28 of the streets.

47:30 The opening end is supposed to closing, which they say is not closed, but it's open. It's open. It's closed. It's open. It's closed. Here's a CBS with a

47:39 guy from the RAND Corporation talking about

47:41 how difficult it is to open the the Hormuz Straits. The agreement with Iran also reopened the Strait Of Hormuz and ships are starting to move through the major waterway again. But traffic may not get back to normal right away because of dozens of mines that need to be cleared in the area.

47:58 So I wanna bring in doctor Scott Savitz, a senior engineer and professor at Rand's School of Public Policy. Thanks for joining us. What is a realistic timeline for the Strait Of Hormuz to reopen for commercial traffic? Are we talking days, weeks, months?

48:13 So appreciable traffic can start to move within days. It's likely that narrow corridors can be cleared. On the other hand, getting the entire

48:22 straight cleared may take weeks, possibly months.

48:26 Full traffic, normal traffic as it was before the war will likely resume within a few weeks.

48:33 Okay.

48:35 So, you know, is everyone still talking about these so called mines, which I just don't believe.

48:40 I don't believe there's the mines in there.

48:43 No one blowed up. That'd be it'd be crazy to mine the Straits Of Hormuz.

48:48 No one benefits from that.

48:50 Don't they keep saying there's mines there? Yeah. They keep saying it.

48:54 There's no evidence.

48:56 And so here's a CNBC to get the

48:59 to get the lowdown on the oil markets. So what does this deal actually do? Well, first and foremost, and critically for the energy markets, it reopens the Strait Of Hormuz, and it also lifts The US naval blockade.

49:11 Secondly, it's going to give Iran an immediate waiver to export oil during this sixty day cease fire period, and that is really the provision that energy markets are also focused on this morning. I've been speaking with analysts here in Vienna about what this could mean for oil flows over the next few months. David Pfeif at August media told me it could take several months before shipping and exports normalize,

49:35 and Rita san at energy aspects also weighing in. She was a little bit more cautious

49:39 saying she doesn't expect Hormuz flows to return to pre war conditions

49:44 anytime soon. Yeah. Everyone is like, oh, cautious, cautious, cautious.

49:50 Now, we are now looking at premium gasoline in Texas at about $4.20

49:56 down from over 5.

49:58 So people are not smiling, but they're like, okay,

50:03 feeling a bit better.

50:05 California

50:06 is still outrageously

50:08 high and

50:09 a rare nonretarded

50:11 moment from, former governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

50:13 California is

50:15 making some major mistakes

50:17 in policy wise because

50:20 they make

50:21 fuel

50:22 very expensive.

50:24 So our fuel is around $2 per gallon more than the average in The United States.

50:30 And the reason is because the Californian

50:32 legislators

50:34 somehow feel like they don't want to have a refinery in California. So the refineries now go to Texas.

50:40 So now you have to go and ship all the oil to Texas, then you do the refining, and then you go and ship it back again. But what do you think what happens when you ship?

50:49 Creates pollution. So it is absolutely contradict contradictory to what they believe in. So they're a little confused,

50:56 which is not

50:57 unusual with legislators, may I remind you. Yeah.

51:01 Plenty of refineries in California.

51:03 You'd be you'd know what he's saying.

51:07 He's talking to simple people in California. You're all pretty simple out there, so we gotta put it in terms you can understand.

51:14 So

51:15 whereas the g eight, the g seven And by the way, the reason that the guest

51:19 he he left out the most important I don't wanna just start correcting these kinds of clips, but he left out the most important part about the fuel price

51:28 is that it's a special

51:31 one once in the world

51:34 bland that's special to California

51:37 that burns a certain way and creates a certain kind of pollution that is peculiar.

51:43 And so it costs more to make this gasoline than it does normal gasoline. Now so is that because of where you are on the map, or is that because of where you place they've decided

51:54 they're the you know, we are the ones who started the idea of the low sulfur diesel that Uh-huh. Could result in diesel everywhere being too expensive. But we also did the same thing with gasoline, creating a special blend of gasoline

52:05 that is very good at not

52:08 producing,

52:09 night nitrogen

52:11 oxides and other things that cause,

52:13 the

52:14 smog, literally. Due to You you don't hear about smog anymore in Los Angeles. And a large part of that is due to the fact that this gasoline,

52:23 the effluent, the the exhaust from these gasolines do not produce I I thought it was Obama who fixed all that. I thought Obama fixed up No. It's bullshit. Okeydoke. No?

52:33 Bullshit. Alright.

52:36 So just to wrap this up, the g seven, the big summit where Trump was sleepy and all alone in the schoolyard,

52:43 used to be the g eight for people who have forgotten. Yeah. Right. When Russia

52:47 Poustoux still should be in it. Of course, they should. It's size. It's a GDP.

52:53 But no, we hate the you know,

52:56 we're not gonna let you in the in the Olympics, in the Eurovision song contest, and certainly not in the g eight. But yet somehow,

53:04 Volodymyr Zelenskyy is there

53:07 hanging out

53:08 and, expecting Putin to show up. Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, has expressed willingness to meet his Russian counterpart for face to face talks on ending the war.

53:19 Speaking at a historic monastery that was damaged in an overnight attack by Russia, Zelenskyy said he had offered to meet Vladimir Putin at the g seven summit. We

53:29 gave message

53:30 that we are ready to meet with Putin during g seven because Trump is there and Macron is there, and

53:38 Russia

53:40 demonstrated

53:40 again that they don't they

53:43 don't

53:44 they are not ready to speak about this.

53:47 Zelensky will attend a working session with g seven leaders on Tuesday, giving him the opportunity to show Trump that he holds more cards than he might have thought,

53:56 including Ukrainian

53:57 troops' recent progress on the battlefield,

54:00 which also comes on the back of receiving a โ‚ฌ90,000,000,000

54:03 loan from the EU

54:05 and Kyiv's defense cooperation

54:07 with Gulf nations. I'm I keep hearing from my military

54:11 sources familiar with the matter

54:13 that

54:15 Russia is about to make something go big boom in Ukraine.

54:19 Yeah.

54:21 So You you you mentioned it in the last show. I I yeah. I just gotta keep saying. I'm the Lindsey Graham of podcasts, man. I just gotta keep saying it to make sure These that

54:29 military sources of yours are the ones that said they're gonna take over the election back in '20 dots. '20.

54:36 Quantum dots are all over the place.

54:40 I thought the other big news which

54:42 due to presentation

54:44 was not

54:46 played up much at all except probably Fox and lots of podcasts. We might as well join the chorus. That was

54:53 Tulsi Gabbard

54:55 outgoing

54:57 Yeah. I wanna

54:59 Yeah. When you're the thing that happened today,

55:03 Tulsi Gabbler, you're gonna tell him, and you have the clips. I don't have any of that. But Well, let me just today, the Washington Post Let me don't don't give away the the the punchline.

55:11 There's a punchline? Well, you've got a punchline. Today, the Washington Post. This is not from today. So this predates whatever you have to share.

55:19 So let's think of this in a logical show rundown.

55:22 I'm gonna play the the the Gala jump in and jump in with a punchline before you can tell it. No. No. Go on. My my punch believe my punchline will wait and it does not I have anything

55:33 have no punch line. You've got the punch line. I'm just Yeah. I'm just giving people something that they may not have heard

55:38 and that Yeah. And why is that? Because

55:42 This is the most significant thing Yes. She's done. Yes.

55:46 And she had a big stack of papers on her desk, a very Did you see the size of that stack? Yeah. It was a stack.

55:53 Wow. Very tepid presentation.

55:56 Your favorite type of presentation. It almost looks like AI. That's how tepid it is. Like, this is this is where's the tarot. She's not good at that. So I've just pulled two short clips.

56:07 Before the COVID pandemic, doctor Fauci, as head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases,

56:13 provided

56:14 millions in US taxpayer dollars to fund dangerous gain of function research

56:20 on bat coronaviruses

56:22 at the Wuhan Institute of Virology,

56:24 work which is now widely viewed as the source of the unintentional

56:28 lab leak that sparks the pandemic.

56:31 Now in support of president Trump's maximum transparency I do find it interesting

56:36 that she says in here the unintentional

56:39 lab leak.

56:41 There's no reason

56:42 for her to say that.

56:44 Or or well, there shouldn't be a reason, but I think there is.

56:48 Oh, interesting. I mean? Like, she could have just said the lab leak,

56:52 but now it has to be unintentional

56:53 lab leak. Of the unintentional lab leak that sparks the pandemic.

56:58 Now in support of president Trump's Spark you know, this is irritating me now that I hear this again.

57:03 Sparked the pandemic? No. Caused the pandemic. Not spark. Caused.

57:08 Spark means that there was fuel everywhere and it was ready to go and you just needed a spark. No. No. It's it started the pandemic,

57:17 if you wanna say it correctly.

57:19 Of the unintentional lab leak that sparks the pandemic.

57:23 Now in support of president Trump's maximum transparency

57:26 mandate,

57:27 today,

57:28 on my final day as director of national intelligence,

57:31 I'm releasing never before seen communications

57:34 and documents

57:36 that expose exactly how Fauci worked with politicized career leadership

57:40 in the intelligence community

57:42 to suppress the truth about his actions,

57:46 the virus' lab leak origins,

57:48 and his role in directing US funding for this dangerous research

57:53 that caused immeasurable harm and countless lost lives.

57:57 Okay. And then the other piece of significance, because there's a lot of fluff in her statement,

58:03 Fauci lied. The COVID pandemic caused tremendous hardship and pain for millions of our fellow Americans

58:10 and countless people around the world.

58:13 Now after years of lies and censorship and cover ups,

58:17 the American people deserve transparency,

58:19 truth, and accountability.

58:21 The tactics that were used to hide the truth are straight from the deep state playbook.

58:26 Politicized self serving leaders like doctor Fauci

58:29 covered up their own wrongdoing and abuses of power,

58:33 manipulated intelligence,

58:35 lied to congress,

58:36 and undermined a duly elected president by restricting his access to the vital facts he needed to keep the country safe.

58:46 It's time you know the truth. No. It's time someone is held accountable,

58:53 and we can't hold Fauci accountable because he got a retroactive pardon from the previous president.

59:01 And which Trump is which is sketchy. Well, he's trying to say, well, was auto pen so it was no good. But, I mean, where is where is the outrage?

59:11 Where?

59:12 It's not on Fox.

59:14 It's not it's not anywhere. There's no real outrage like what? First of all, nothing new. We knew about it. We've heard about the emails. Well, we have. Yes, we have. Yes, we have. There's nothing new to people that have anything to do with this show. No. But no one else heard this. They only hear it on podcasts.

59:32 No one is saying know. That That that that's baffling to me. Breaking news. It's it's

59:37 it's suppressed.

59:39 So your punchline of the Wall Street Journal or the Washington Post.

59:43 So she talks about in there that when people

59:47 there was retribution

59:48 by the intelligence

59:49 community when whenever anybody said anything about this. Remember that was in there. Yep.

59:55 Today's Wall's Washington Post. Tulsi Gabbard,

59:59 her guru, and the mysterious messages that helped shape her political career.

1:00:05 Big giant story by this character. Oh, boy. This guy, John Swain,

1:00:10 a Brit

1:00:11 from The Guardian. Uh-huh.

1:00:14 And if you let we just read the like, it this is supposed to be reporting, but it's really written like an like an op ed, but like a personal account. Let me just read you the first paragraph.

1:00:25 The first time I

1:00:27 spoke with Rebecca Salzberg,

1:00:29 she told me that Tulsi Gabbard was a free thinker who took orders from no one.

1:00:37 And you can see where this goes. Yeah. Of course. But so I said, well, who's this guy?

1:00:41 This

1:00:42 Swain character.

1:00:44 Yeah. So here he is. He was in the he was during he was at The Guardian, the left wing Guardian.

1:00:50 We all know that place.

1:00:53 Some of his stories, Trump impeachment,

1:00:55 Esper indicates Pentagon will cooperate.

1:00:58 Sean Hannity,

1:01:00 sheriff friend faces mounting ethics allegations.

1:01:03 Yeah. Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein.

1:01:07 Violence in the name of Trump.

1:01:10 We all know he's a he's unfit.

1:01:13 Joe Walsh to challenge Trump.

1:01:16 It's just Trump Trump Trump Trump. Wait. Is Joe Walsh from the Eagles?

1:01:20 Yeah. Yeah. That no. That's a different Walsh. Oh, okay.

1:01:25 It goes on and on. But this guy is a is just a a he's a hit job guy. There's a they're the in the business, it's called a hit piece. Yeah. And this guy is, like, one of these guys who writes these. And so this is so immediately,

1:01:39 she she's out of office one day

1:01:42 or a couple of I guess a couple of days Yeah. And bingo, this morning, this the hit piece comes out after she's gone because she can't you know, you're not gonna do it while she's the head of DNI.

1:01:53 No.

1:01:54 And

1:01:55 and it was also brought up by it wasn't Fauci, it was one of the commentators

1:02:00 said that

1:02:03 that actually

1:02:04 congress

1:02:05 required

1:02:06 the release of all these files that Tulsi released

1:02:10 back in the twenty twenties after, like, when Biden was still in office and a this woman,

1:02:16 Averell, the one that was ahead of DNI, I think her name was Averell Harriman or something like that,

1:02:21 she just refused to release him because she was afraid that they were gonna go after her. This is a concerted effort. This is the intelligence community.

1:02:30 Who who There's something up with this whole thing, and I think it harkens back to the clip I played, like, a few years ago of John Malone

1:02:39 discussing how important this r n mRNA was to the intelligence community because they thought they could be used as a universal,

1:02:47 of universal vaccine for any crazy thing that comes along.

1:02:52 Trying to think It wasn't it's not John Malone. It's that, you know, the other Malone Rob Malone. Robert Malone.

1:02:58 Bob.

1:02:59 I'm trying to think what Bob. What would you call that clip?

1:03:03 Oh, it'd be Malone.

1:03:05 It definitely have Malone's name in it. And I got lots of Malone here.

1:03:09 Yeah. It had to do with universality.

1:03:13 It's mRNA maybe would be in there.

1:03:16 I wish I could recall the name of it, but it was it was him discussing in great detail so he knew that this whole thing was a CIA idea,

1:03:26 that they they were looking for a universal vaccine, and there was two two candidates. One was the Here. Maybe this is it. Let's see. All these circumventing

1:03:36 of normal procedures and rules,

1:03:39 That's happening because

1:03:41 largely our intelligence community is pushing that through

1:03:44 the administrative state structure. And why are they doing it?

1:03:48 I think if if we just back up for a minute This may not be it. Okay. Let's try to give them the benefit of the doubt for a moment.

1:03:56 K? K?

1:03:58 K? What

1:03:59 what I think they are

1:04:02 believing

1:04:03 is that they have to push this.

1:04:07 They have to get acceptance for this technology

1:04:10 Yeah. Because there are no alternatives,

1:04:12 and the threat is so severe

1:04:14 in their opinion, in their spooky world.

1:04:17 The threat is so severe that something has to exist, and this is the something they've latched onto.

1:04:22 And I'm saying this not to defend them. I'm saying this to try to help you to understand

1:04:28 what you've been subjected to.

1:04:30 No. I'm not that's a little out of context for it to be the one we're talking about. Yeah. It's about the mRNA

1:04:36 technology.

1:04:37 You talked about these technologies. There's two of them in play. There was the mRNA and then there was the adenovirus,

1:04:44 which is what the Johnson and Johnson shot was. Mhmm. And the and adenovirus

1:04:48 is used for Zika. They were playing around with that kind of technology

1:04:53 as a quick you know, because you could you can get from a to b. In other words, you can quickly make a vaccine without having to wait the three to five years or whatever it takes to to develop one Yeah.

1:05:04 With both these technologies and adenovirus,

1:05:07 they dropped the ball. They said, no. Screw this. It's no good. This this mRNA has got the it's got the it's the answer to everything.

1:05:14 And so they've been trying to push that down everyone's throat, but they could never get it past testing.

1:05:19 So they said, hell, whether just release it, make sure that everyone has to get it, and we'll see really if it's See how it does. We'll see how it does. See how it does.

1:05:29 Yeah. But it's

1:05:33 it's noticeable that no one is doing anything with this. There's Oh, nobody's doing anything with the Tulsi Gabbard release is what you're saying. Yeah. And I yeah.

1:05:43 It's it's very noticeable. Does that mean that everyone is afraid? Have they been threatened? Has

1:05:49 I mean, okay. So the There's something underlying it that we don't know about, but it has to have some it has something to do with with that clip that Malone where he's talking about mRNA and how important it was

1:06:01 or it is or supposed to be and is not. That's the joke that these guys are living in the dream world. That technology stinks.

1:06:11 Yeah. It sure does.

1:06:13 Oh, instead, this is what your mainstream news does. There's been a flu outbreak at an air force base in Texas just weeks after defense secretary bull crap? Dick Hecksett ended mandatory vaccines for service members. Oh, you see there's a correlation between

1:06:27 I'm glad you got that clip because I I I heard that. I said, oh, what a what a cry.

1:06:33 Pete Hecksett.

1:06:35 You know, coincidence correlation,

1:06:37 coincidence doesn't is not causation.

1:06:39 Alright. Let's Not because I Heck Seth. It's only thirty four seconds. Let's hear it. There's been a flu outbreak at an air force base in Texas just weeks after defense secretary Pete Heck ended mandatory

1:06:50 vaccines for service members.

1:06:52 Multiple media outlets are reporting there are more than a hundred and fifty cases at Lackland air force base at Joint Base San Antonio.

1:06:59 An air force spokesperson is cited as calling the outbreak localized

1:07:03 and saying mitigation measures are in place.

1:07:06 In April, Hegseth announced that he was rolling back a decades old mandate requiring that US military personnel get an annual flu shot, saying the mandate was, quote, overly broad.

1:07:18 I'm just I'm

1:07:19 kind of annoyed that I can't find you know, some of your some of your, clips are so poorly labeled, but this might be it. Let me see. This is Malone. The truth is that DARPA,

1:07:30 which is the operational,

1:07:32 development arm, basically the CIA

1:07:35 I think this is the one. Fell in love with the RNA technology

1:07:38 over a decade ago,

1:07:41 and they decided to capitalize it and force it into

1:07:45 the market space.

1:07:46 And for instance, they're the ones that have capitalized through In Q Tel, their investment arm, the new RNA manufacturing facilities up in Canada. This is a CIA program. Don't don't you know, there's no And this is the clip. Right? Yep. Now, do you know what it's labeled?

1:08:03 Oh, you're gonna embarrass me. Yes.

1:08:05 No. Not at all because I'm able to decode.

1:08:09 So it's called Malone

1:08:10 six Wow.

1:08:14 The new RNA manufacturing Yeah. Wow. In Canada. This is a CIA program. Don't don't you know, there's no ambiguity here. I'm not telling state secrets. The technology

1:08:27 was basically pulled out of the trash can

1:08:30 because it had been suppressed by Merck after I developed it over thirty years ago and advanced very aggressively by DARPA. DARPA funded and basically built Moderna. They're continuing to push all this, and they're pushing it through the government.

1:08:45 And what you're seeing is the power of the the intelligence community

1:08:51 and the the new biodefense

1:08:53 industrial complex that's developed since the Actors attacks and really goes beyond that in being able to push their agenda through the government. K? When you see all these things that Paul's documenting,

1:09:06 all these circumventing

1:09:07 of normal procedures and rules,

1:09:11 that's happening because

1:09:12 largely our intelligence community is pushing that through

1:09:16 the administrative state structure. There you go.

1:09:20 There you go. Yeah. And that's why

1:09:23 that explains why the Tulsi Gabbler report's gonna go nowhere,

1:09:27 and that's why Fauci's not gonna get indicted. Yep. And that's why all the references all the stuff that Rand Paul's been sending these these referrals to the DOJ,

1:09:36 he said himself,

1:09:38 and they just get kicked back. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. And nope. Nope.

1:09:42 Somebody else is pulling the strings here.

1:09:46 Yeah.

1:09:47 Yeah. And it's the intel community. This is probably the CIA in specifically.

1:09:51 And they just got their hands in the in the pot. They're saying, no. You're not messing with this. We this is important. This is for national security purposes. We really like this technology.

1:10:00 And they can't come up with anything else, and they're they're already they're in too deep. They can't, you know, they can't say we made a mistake. They can't No. Say it's no good. This technology stinks. It doesn't They're really

1:10:12 trying to make it into a flu vaccine now. Yeah. I think the intelligence community also, preferred Betamax over VHS.

1:10:21 V 2,000, that was another good format. I like that. The p two Phillips. Phillips.

1:10:27 The The Phillips. That was it was superior

1:10:30 technology,

1:10:31 but Yes. Superior technology. They didn't have the porn industry to support it.

1:10:35 It was football.

1:10:38 Football?

1:10:39 I don't care what you know, people always say, so well, the porn industry put it on VHS and not no. Beta, when it first came I've I've made this. I'm gonna make it this is an old argument. Nobody knows what we're talking about. When beta came out, they were good that you could record an hour. When VHS came out, you re could record an entire football game, two hours,

1:10:58 and then it was later extended to four,

1:11:00 so you could definitely get a game in. And Betamax couldn't just couldn't hold as much stuff on on the on the cassette.

1:11:07 Oh, That's why it failed. How is that true?

1:11:10 Well, it's your thesis. I like it.

1:11:13 That's the thesis I've had since the since that argument began. I And because it was always the way the argument went, it was better quality.

1:11:21 No. No. No.

1:11:23 I've never heard I don't recall you saying that it was because of the length of the recording length. I just don't recall We never talked about on this show. This was this the argument goes way back. To to, like, when? Like,

1:11:36 Twit?

1:11:38 No. It's we've I mean, was way I mean, when was the Betamax VHS wars?

1:11:42 That's when there's a bunch of other guys that Johnny come lately is coming in with all kinds of different formats. Let's ask the book of knowledge.

1:11:50 Yeah. When was these wars?

1:11:52 Well,

1:11:52 let's formulate the question properly.

1:11:55 It was like, how about this? Why did v h win win VHS win over give you bad information. You don't know that. Gonna use that porn argument. You don't know that. My thesis

1:12:06 is not as well accepted even though it's the accurate one. You don't know that? This is the book of knowledge. How dare you?

1:12:13 How dare

1:12:14 you? Book of knowledge.

1:12:17 Why did VHS

1:12:18 win over Betamax?

1:12:20 How dare you? How dare you question the authority of the book of knowledge?

1:12:25 According to the book of knowledge,

1:12:27 VHS triumphed over Betamax primarily

1:12:30 because JVC licensed the VHS format broadly to multiple manufacturers,

1:12:36 flooding the market with cheaper machines and longer recording times.

1:12:40 Beta's initial one hour limit could not capture a full football game while Sony kept Betamax largely proprietary.

1:12:48 Thus,

1:12:50 it

1:12:51 has been written So I would say the book of knowledge is now authoritative.

1:12:56 Well, nailed my thesis. That's funny. Must have gotten into the corpus. This is not Wikipedia.

1:13:01 This is the Book of Knowledge, my friend.

1:13:04 That's what it is.

1:13:08 Well, I'm kind of pleased about that even though I was wrong. I'm pleased that my book of knowledge had it right.

1:13:14 This is good news. It's very good news.

1:13:18 Okay. A little,

1:13:22 what is it? Not

1:13:23 in not to entre entrement?

1:13:25 Entrement. No. No. What is in between? What is in Intermezzo.

1:13:29 No. Is it what is the you're the foodie guy. What is the foodie? What is that little foodie gobbagoo?

1:13:36 Wait a minute. What

1:13:40 is the You know, would you like your gob of goo before you go to the second course? Oh,

1:13:46 would I wanted I wanted to ask the Book of Knowledge. Hold on a second. We gotta ask The seat Yeah. The book of knowledge is now confused. Now I was like, it's trying to answer something else. Hold on second. Legally. Yeah.

1:13:57 Let's see if I can interrupt it. Book of knowledge, what is that gob of goo you get between It's been written.

1:14:03 It's come on. You get between

1:14:06 courses in a fancy restaurant.

1:14:08 Let's see.

1:14:10 Gob of goo.

1:14:14 This

1:14:15 is too secret.

1:14:17 According to the book of knowledge,

1:14:19 that gob of goo is called a pinched

1:14:23 palate cleanser,

1:14:25 food or beverage served between courses to prepare diners for the next course. So typically, we need flavors designed to remove lingering aftertaste. The

1:14:36 most common form is a fruit sorbet

1:14:38 whose sharp citrus and cold temperature temporarily

1:14:41 reset the taste buds.

1:14:44 And in France and Italy, this course is formally known as the Cab Intermezzo.

1:14:48 Yeah. You're right.

1:14:50 Thus,

1:14:52 has been written. Intermezzo.

1:14:54 You were right. Intermezzo.

1:14:56 I'm gonna roll. I I love that it said that gob of goo.

1:15:02 I'm a I'm a programming wizard. Alright.

1:15:05 The intermezzo is a

1:15:08 former vice president of The United States Kamala Harris,

1:15:12 who is

1:15:14 out there

1:15:15 doing interviews

1:15:16 at all these different fora fora

1:15:20 because,

1:15:20 you know, of course, you know, in 2028, we expect her to run again. I think she's really serious about running. Well, this is one of her better

1:15:30 word salad answers that we've heard since she was vice president. You've talked about that you're thinking about running for president. Right?

1:15:38 How is that thought process going? What's the process in that? And I know you're on a listening tour, and I'm curious what you're hearing from people as you've gone around the country. What people are telling you that maybe you've learned that you didn't know before the process of of doing so? Man, we need to go on a listening tour. But like literally, we'll go on stage and we'll just sit there

1:15:59 and just have everyone listen. Just have people get have mics and and yell stuff at us and we'll just listen.

1:16:05 That is perfect. I think it's it's very No Agenda. Alright. Let's let's let's hear what she has to say. Telling you that maybe you've learned that you didn't know before the process of of doing so.

1:16:18 What people

1:16:19 are telling me,

1:16:22 includes

1:16:24 that they want to believe

1:16:26 in systems,

1:16:28 and they've lost trust in those systems. What

1:16:33 I hear

1:16:34 a lot is that people know that at the end of

1:16:39 this administration,

1:16:41 there will be a lot of debris.

1:16:43 Debris?

1:16:44 I tell them often. I can't guarantee

1:16:47 that it won't get worse before it gets better.

1:16:50 But the one thing I do know is at the end of it, there will be a lot of debris. Debris? And it would be a responsible to then

1:16:58 address that in a way that we only talk about what should we do, what do we need to do to rebuild

1:17:04 if we do that with any sense of nostalgia,

1:17:08 that would be irresponsible.

1:17:11 The status quo

1:17:14 is not working for a lot of people. And what the people are telling us Us? Is that

1:17:21 they want things to be better.

1:17:24 And in some places,

1:17:27 what that sounds like is we want that to be broken,

1:17:32 but they don't actually necessarily mean

1:17:34 break it through destruction.

1:17:37 But

1:17:38 they do mean it has to be better. Drunk or not drunk? Wow.

1:17:48 It's crazy, man.

1:17:50 It's crazy.

1:17:51 What? Well, we're on crazy.

1:17:53 Okay.

1:17:55 How about a couple of,

1:17:57 whatever girls? Oh, this early in the show?

1:18:01 Yeah. It's a good time. I I remind we go to Ebola.

1:18:05 Remind you that on the last show, you said I'm never playing it again. And now you've already No. I've decided I'm gonna go to ten, and I'm at up to nine. And after ten, I'm gonna stop unless there's a a huge demand.

1:18:17 Okay. I But but but let's But let me just ahead just and go to Ebola because nobody's talking about it. Well, what wait a minute. Wait a minute. What happened to the whatever girls?

1:18:27 Oh, we'll bring them back.

1:18:29 That is a national emergency, a national

1:18:32 security issue.

1:18:34 And the the people this dumb are are are successful in porn.

1:18:40 One girl, you know, one girl said in one of the I do one of the ones I didn't clip, she says, I don't see the point of having to know all this. No. Well And I think she was right. That's a good point. I've I've take the side of the girls that don't know these things. It's like, so how many people know how many continents there are?

1:18:58 You know, it could be as a six, a seven, as an eight. I don't know myself.

1:19:02 And it's like, you know, okay. Yeah. Maybe you should know that that United States is North of Mexico. That would be kind of sounds like you something you should know. But what difference does it make if you're never gonna go there?

1:19:13 I I I I have mixed feelings about a lot of this. Alright. But let's go to Ebola.

1:19:18 This is and it's spelled e n p l a n n p p l a,

1:19:24 to keep in the Funny enough funny enough, I had already queued those up thinking this is probably the Ebola curse. Literally, e n n plus. N plus. I'm like, oh, it's gotta be Ebola. Yeah. Okay. Let me it's the b the b is right next to the n. Who knows? I my touch typing is the worst. Yes. It's pretty bad. Alright. Here we go. Yeah. The Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic Of Congo that emerged last month is surging at an unprecedented pace

1:19:53 with at least nine hundred cases and nearly two hundred and fifty deaths confirmed since then. Health officials there are overwhelmed with cases. Emmett Livingstone just returned from a reporting trip to the region and joins us. Emmett, thanks for being with us. You've spent a week in a tour in the area that's Oh, can I just say something? Okay. I didn't quite decode everything.

1:20:15 So here's this is

1:20:19 so typically John will put s s in the clip so I know to play. Chaper and Succotash.

1:20:24 I'm Scott.

1:20:29 Simon. So while I had decoded Npla,

1:20:32 this is what it says. It's Npla bigger messoni

1:20:36 NPR.

1:20:38 And so I think you meant to have

1:20:41 Ebola bigger mess

1:20:43 s s one

1:20:45 NPR.

1:20:47 Yeah. Wow. So I I just This was after working together for eighteen years,

1:20:53 it's like it's like an old married couple. I don't know what you like for breakfast, but I can decode and plot How part of the

1:21:00 bad counts.

1:21:01 Yeah. To put it bluntly, the situation is dire. Lots of people, life is still continuing as before, but because it has to, children are going to school, people are going to church on Sundays and so on. But there's also a growing sense of fear. Ebola is spreading across a huge and difficult to access area. It's also spreading in Bunya, a city of over 1,000,000 people.

1:21:21 And there is a massive international response underway, but this outbreak was caught very late. In the hospitals I visited, there was a constant arrival of suspected Ebola patients.

1:21:30 And in many cases, because of poor health infrastructure, there's no way to isolate these cases, so they risk infecting others. People are also dying every day. Health personnel also say they don't have enough PPE. Doctors explained to me that lots of PPE, like masks or gloves,

1:21:45 is single use, so there needs to be a constant supply.

1:21:48 And because the disease has spread so widely, nurses in rural areas are coming into daily contact with suspected Ebola patients too, and for the most part they have nothing.

1:21:58 Alright.

1:21:59 The point is, is that we haven't played anything on Ebola for the last two shows. I I actually brought some Ebola clips today.

1:22:07 And it's like it's been getting worse. It hasn't improved,

1:22:11 and it's not it's not the top of the news. It's I don't think the networks are talking about it at all. I know. I know why. Worse. Yeah. We we need to remember that jingles work. Ebola.

1:22:23 Ebola.

1:22:24 It has been with us two times

1:22:27 in

1:22:28 our lives.

1:22:31 Ebola. The third.

1:22:39 You of course have been inside Ebola treatment shutters and hospitals.

1:22:44 How are the healthcare workers coping?

1:22:47 I saw a difference between doctors working in Ebola treat- Oh crap,

1:22:51 I'm sorry.

1:22:53 I didn't mean to do that.

1:22:56 Here we are. Treatment centers and other health personnel.

1:23:00 Only a handful of these treatment centres are operating at the moment and they've been set up specifically for Ebola patients.

1:23:06 The doctors working there are often world specialists.

1:23:08 But then there's the other health personnel, the community nurses or doctors working in small clinics. They're not trained for this and yet they're highly exposed.

1:23:16 Dozens of health workers have already been infected and some unfortunately have already died. And of course, as you said, the number of cases is quickly

1:23:23 rising. Are health care workers able to keep up doing

1:23:27 contact tracing, isolating people who are infected? Yeah, it's actually hard to know for sure because so much of this outbreak is happening out of view. The government says seventy two percent of contacts are being traced, but aid workers are very skeptical of this figure. Some told me off the record that it's probably around forty percent. What this means in simple terms is that the outbreak is out of control.

1:23:48 And of course, that means there's a risk of regional spread. Many people are not turning up to hospitals or health centers and are dying unnoticed.

1:23:56 Health responders just don't know where all the cases are. So for example, it emerged this week that there have been dozens of suspicious deaths in a displacement camp in Bunya.

1:24:05 This camp is right next to the city's airport and the headquarters of NGOs.

1:24:09 If it's confirmed to be Ebola, it's spreading right under the nose of the official response.

1:24:14 And then isolating suspected patients is also a huge problem. There's no system of triage in many hospitals or clinics, so suspected Ebola patients can be clumped together with others. To give you a concrete example, I visited a hospital 40 kilometers outside of Bunya, where there was only one block of toilets for patients.

1:24:31 So if you had Ebola or, say, appendicitis,

1:24:34 you had to use the same facilities. Ebola.

1:24:38 Alright. I have two Ebola

1:24:40 clips. A little more exciting

1:24:42 because no one cares about Africa.

1:24:45 We wanna hear about death and and and how horrible and could it come to us and CBS did a decent job. Top health officials in Africa are warning that the Ebola outbreak in Central Africa could become the worst in history if transmission rates are not flattened. The director of Africa Flatten the curve. Says the disease control and prevention says more than two hundred people thus far have died in the Democratic Republic Of Congo and neighboring Uganda.

1:25:12 The total number of confirmed cases, nearly nine hundred and appears to be growing. That is the number of cases.

1:25:18 I wanna bring in Syrah Mehtaj. She is an infectious disease epidemiologist

1:25:22 at Harvard University's Belfer Center.

1:25:25 Syrah, I'm glad to have you with us. Thanks for joining us. Walk my audience through what we know and what we fear might happen. Yeah. Well, I think first I'll start by sharing the the current Ebola outbreak of the Budapugyo virus is already the third largest Ebola outbreak on record. So that really goes to show you that a little over one month since this outbreak was detected, it's already the third largest, which, you know, is expanding in geographic location. We're up to 31 health zones and three provinces being affected.

1:25:53 Okay. So we've already heard flatten the curve.

1:25:55 What else do we need? We need

1:25:58 I think we need testing, testing and Testing. Oh, testing. And my favorite This is not just a story of the number of cases that are being detected. It's a story of the number of people that are also being contact traced, and that's also where we're also falling behind. So there's a lot that's complicating the manner the the matter. The first is as we talk about contact tracing, these are the number of individuals that have come in contact with a confirmed case of Ebola. Now estimates show that we should be tracking about thirty three thousand, and the reason why we're coming up with that thirty three thousand number is because it's the magic number. For every one case. Interesting.

1:26:33 Good case. Looking at about 40 contacts that they may have. Now according to the most recent World Health Organization report,

1:26:40 they're only contact tracing

1:26:42 about four thousand of those individuals. So there's a very large number that still are out and they're not being contact traced. So there's lots of complexities. And the one thing that I'll also share

1:26:52 is that an outbreak is occurring in an area of conflict,

1:26:56 of neglect,

1:26:57 of militarized response, and a and a huge, you know, humanitarian

1:27:01 need. So there's lots of confounding factors here. USAID.

1:27:05 Yeah. I don't know. I think what we should do is we should bomb them. I mean, we need to save the world. President Trump, we gotta bomb them. I mean, that's just the only way to get rid of it.

1:27:14 Let's do our little medley of Ebola jingles just to get out of this. And in the black Trumps,

1:27:20 weighing in at over 3,000

1:27:22 troops,

1:27:23 the ISIS virus,

1:27:26 the killer from Nigeria,

1:27:29 Ebola.

1:27:32 Ebola's

1:27:33 back in town. Ebola's

1:27:38 Ebola's

1:27:39 back back in

1:27:43 town.

1:28:04 I'll tell you this. If Ebola breaks out in The United States,

1:28:08 I'm going to quarantine myself. Wearing a mask, I've already got it in place for my family. Yeah. African.

1:28:31 So speaking of Africa,

1:28:33 I was watching

1:28:34 the I I of course, it was recorded. So I watched the opening of the Obama presidential center.

1:28:41 It's not a library, it's a center.

1:28:44 And man, it was insufferable.

1:28:48 It was although it was kinda fun to see president Biden walking around dazed and confused.

1:28:53 Yeah. The same old Biden. Yeah. He was I'm like, is that daddy long legs? No. Do I go this way? Do I go that way? That's the guy. He was like, oh, my daughter's in the what?

1:29:03 And all the elites were there. You had whenever you have what is it? John

1:29:09 John Legend John Legend. And Bruce Springsteen on the same stage. Okay.

1:29:14 And

1:29:15 Valerie Jarrett apparently is in charge of this whole deal.

1:29:19 And it's

1:29:21 just sick sicko sicko people.

1:29:24 And and oh, by the did anybody ever point out that, you know, this this building, which is a screwy looking thing, has got no windows?

1:29:34 And and nobody ever says to the obvious. Looks ugly. Why doesn't it have any windows? Well, it's being built in the in the rough part of town, the South Side Of Chicago,

1:29:44 where the windows would be shot out

1:29:46 and boarded up.

1:29:49 So you can't have any windows in that area.

1:29:52 Before we talk It seems racist if you ask me.

1:29:56 So

1:29:58 Fox had a report on some of the minority

1:30:01 contractors who helped build this monstrosity.

1:30:04 Yeah. This is a scandal.

1:30:05 This is quite the scandal. It's over about a $100,000,000

1:30:08 probably that estimatedly probably owed to contractors

1:30:11 on this project.

1:30:13 One contractor may be anywhere from 40

1:30:16 to, $50,000,000.

1:30:18 Another contractor

1:30:20 told me they're owed a $100,000.

1:30:23 Another one told me they owe $4,000,000.

1:30:25 So we have over 10 contractors

1:30:28 that are being hurt and crippled by this particular project.

1:30:32 So that is Omar Sharif.

1:30:34 Omar Sharif?

1:30:36 Wow.

1:30:37 I didn't know he's done to that. You sound pretty young. He is the president of the African American Contracts Association,

1:30:42 and he's commenting on how much they're owed from the Obama library bill that was unveiled yesterday that was four years late and way over budget, almost double the budget they intended

1:30:51 for 300,000,000,000.

1:30:53 300,000,000,

1:30:54 it's up over 850,000,000.

1:30:56 Michael Dorgan joins us now. He's Michael Jordan. We got Omar Sharif. Michael Jordan, this is great. Been on this story. Fox News digital reporter.

1:31:03 Michael, great to see you. Thanks for having me, Brian. Yeah. And I I think the I think the final bill is gonna go well over $1,000,000,000.

1:31:09 That 850,000,000

1:31:11 figure has been there since 2021,

1:31:14 and we haven't got an updated figure since. So it's just scandal. It's a scandal that people have not been paid. And you remember Trump is the most horrible guy. They all over Trump for not paying his contractors, but Obama, we seem to miss that. What's the delay?

1:31:28 I

1:31:29 spoke to several subcontractors.

1:31:30 I was out at I was in Chicago two weeks ago and they told me that the place, the work site was totally chaotic. There was just overregulation,

1:31:38 too many people there

1:31:39 asking them to do too many things that didn't that weren't in line with specifications

1:31:44 and

1:31:45 a two year job turned into a five year job for a lot of these subcontractors.

1:31:48 And a lot of them now are face financial ruin. A lot of them are owed millions of dollars for this project. And a lot of them are minorities, right? Yeah, several. You had Omar Sharif on there. Spoke to Omar when I was outside the center and he's an advocate for these black owned subcontractors

1:32:05 and they're afraid to speak out. A lot of them have signed nondisclosure agreements, so they can't go public. They can't reveal any

1:32:11 documentation. I spoke to one. He didn't want to go public. He said he's owed $2,500,000

1:32:17 and he'd be he said he would be happy to walk away with $1,000,000.

1:32:21 But his business has been around for forty years. He feels he's financially crushed. And, you know, I've we found out with several other subcontractors.

1:32:28 We thought it would be project for them to work on, but we find out it's a very shameful project for them because we have not gotten paid,

1:32:37 and they should pay us as they celebrate with their celebrities today. And they had Bruce Springsteen there. They had Bono there. They had Oprah there. Tom Hanks, who was the who who of celebrities,

1:32:47 who have had nothing to do because Joe Biden was basically a corpse in in,

1:32:52 when he was in the Oval Office. And now this is the time to show up and look back at his eight years. What else do you think was noteworthy about the event? A lot of billionaires there, yesterday, Brian. They could pay all these guys. Yeah.

1:33:04 And it's the little guy that's that's getting crushed. You know? This was supposed to uplift the minority community, the local contractors.

1:33:11 I really don't understand. What does CNN

1:33:15 or Ms. Now have to lose by exposing this? Oh, no one cares about Obama. What do they have to lose?

1:33:22 They they and they they should. They should say, this is this is a scandal.

1:33:27 I mean, just makes them look really really horrible.

1:33:30 Why don't they do that?

1:33:33 I'm asking. Why doesn't CNN and MS now cover this? Yeah.

1:33:38 They don't want to. Not okay. But that's my question. Is it what does there's nothing to lose. Obama's not gonna become president. They have the prestige to lose. They're still they're still

1:33:49 Democrats

1:33:50 Yeah. Yeah. Protecting

1:33:52 turf.

1:33:54 So president Obama And this makes the Democrats look bad because Obama's a Democrat,

1:33:59 kinda pushing, you know, he was behind the Biden administration.

1:34:02 You're still the Valerie Jarrods out there, the same old same old people, the stooges that ran the thing.

1:34:10 So you know, I know.

1:34:12 Alright. So president Obama spoke and I'd forgotten how how much we had to clip his his speeches. I didn't do it here, it's only a minute.

1:34:21 But if I had clipped out all the silences, it would have been like forty seconds.

1:34:25 We just have to work overtime with that guy. A few weeks away from America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday, it is worth remembering I did.

1:34:33 Just how radical the whole idea of self government really was back in 1776.

1:34:41 To that point,

1:34:42 human history was a tale of conquest

1:34:45 and caste

1:34:47 and rigid hierarchies.

1:34:50 A world where the strong dominated

1:34:52 the weak,

1:34:54 where power and wealth and status flowed through lineage,

1:35:00 and the many were ruled by the few.

1:35:06 But out of the fire and steel of a revolution, a different story took flight on this continent.

1:35:13 A declaration

1:35:15 that we are all created equal,

1:35:18 endowed by our creator with certain unalienable

1:35:20 rights, and that in the newly independent United States, there will be no kings or lords,

1:35:27 no serfs

1:35:28 or subjects,

1:35:29 but only citizens.

1:35:32 Each of us free

1:35:33 to pursue our own version of happiness.

1:35:36 Yeah. Don't drone me, bro. So he brings up

1:35:40 Isn't it inalienable?

1:35:42 I did not he says un

1:35:44 I never mind. I always thought it was inalienable but I've looked it up and it is unalienable.

1:35:49 I I don't know how I I was also incorrect about that. So he brings up the 200 birthday and I wanna give you props John C. Dvorak.

1:35:57 Okay. You expose he's like, okay, I'm leaning forward now. What? Say what? So hold on a second. Let me let me let me put down my comic book.

1:36:06 You said that there was two different two fifty organizations.

1:36:11 Yeah. Yeah. I I don't think this was well

1:36:14 discovered by anybody until you unveiled it here on the No Agenda show. Yeah. We do that. And, you know, we always listen to PBS. I think they're listening to us. It's America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday and if you're confused between America two fifty and Freedom two fifty, we're gonna break it down for you with Liz Landers, our White House correspondent.

1:36:32 Liz, let's jump in first. What's America two fifty? America two fifty is a nonpartisan,

1:36:38 nonprofit organization that was set up by congress in 2016,

1:36:42 so ten years ago.

1:36:44 And it was an order of congress signed to celebrate America's 200

1:36:48 birthday, which is coming up July 4. Now what is Freedom two fifty? Freedom two fifty is a different organization.

1:36:54 This was started and founded through a White House task force called White House task force two fifty. President Trump signed this into an executive order really at almost the beginning of his second term back in January

1:37:07 2025.

1:37:08 And the White House said at the time that they are engaging all levels of government, the private sector, nonprofit, and educational institutions,

1:37:16 and every citizen around the country to celebrate this historic milestone.

1:37:20 And, of course, as we know, it's a mess. Now Freedom two fifty has come under scrutiny. Why?

1:37:26 Freedom two fifty has come under scrutiny for a few reasons.

1:37:30 Mostly that some people believe that it has become a politicized event with president Trump sort of becoming the namesake of some of their events.

1:37:38 President Trump announced on his, social media platform, Truth Social, that two of the events that were tied to Freedom two fifty are part of their celebrations,

1:37:47 A rally on, June 24 coming up, and then another one on July 4 on Independence Day are both going to be now Trump rallies.

1:37:57 And then they've also come under some criticism

1:37:59 in the last several weeks after they announced that there were going to be concerts on the National Mall and a number of pretty high profile music credits, including people like people like Martina McBride Uh-huh. And, Brett Michaels of the band Poison Brett Michaels. Pulled out of the event saying that they didn't realize that it was going to be a political type event. Freedom two fifty says they're not political, but still those artists withdrew. Yeah. The big artists, Brett Michaels of Poison. Big big artists. Big names.

1:38:27 Big names.

1:38:30 You know, the, the the the all those people that bailed out from the Freedom

1:38:36 two fifty? Mhmm. They were all booked by the same guy. Ah, what is it now? It was the one guy booked them all. He's and they were all the clients

1:38:44 of, like and the booker and the the agent that was the booker,

1:38:49 he was his name was Jeffrey Epstein. No.

1:38:53 Yeah.

1:38:55 The guy's name is Jeffrey Epstein?

1:38:57 Yeah. I would be changing my name.

1:39:00 Yeah. Would be too, but

1:39:02 but apparently he just did this on his own and the next and they say, hey, we didn't wanna do this stuff. Alright.

1:39:09 I I just wanna sneak in some AI talk here as

1:39:14 as it continues to be interesting to follow what's happening in the forthcoming

1:39:20 IPOs.

1:39:21 The first Axios is getting more and more access.

1:39:24 We gotta figure out who runs this Axios operation.

1:39:28 Who's behind that?

1:39:30 Well, we've looked into it before. It's a bunch of lefties.

1:39:33 Yeah.

1:39:36 Is it? Is he I think there's some spooks involved.

1:39:40 I think let me see Axios. Let me see if they can is there a

1:39:44 do they have a wiki page? Yeah. Look at the Axios masthead. Let me see. Well, let's see. Oh, look listen to this. Axios is an American news website based in Arlington,

1:39:54 Virginia.

1:39:56 Hello?

1:39:57 Home of the

1:39:58 spooks.

1:39:59 Founded in 2016 and launched the following year by former Politico journalists

1:40:04 Jim Vandehy,

1:40:05 Mike Allen and Roy Schwartz.

1:40:09 Let me see.

1:40:11 Okay. But in 09/01/2022,

1:40:14 Cox Enterprise

1:40:15 bought it for $525,000,000.

1:40:19 So it's it's owned by Cox now apparently.

1:40:23 Well,

1:40:25 they get they get good access. They got access to the president talking about anthropic.

1:40:29 You know, we have a situation with anthropic

1:40:32 and we didn't like what they were doing.

1:40:35 And so far, I think they've behaved very responsibly

1:40:38 to our

1:40:40 request.

1:40:41 Do you view

1:40:42 anthropic

1:40:44 and, to a degree, its CEO Dario Ahmaday

1:40:47 as

1:40:48 a threat to national security? Well,

1:40:51 not now, but a week ago,

1:40:53 maybe.

1:40:54 I was with him yesterday. He made a speech. I made a little speech. We were in the room on the G 7,

1:41:01 and he seems like a nice guy, smart guy.

1:41:05 But he responded

1:41:06 to us very quickly

1:41:09 because, you know, it's tremendous

1:41:11 liability.

1:41:12 People get put in prison immediately for that. You know, you can't play games with that.

1:41:17 And he responded very responsibly. I thought, so far, I think he will. Yeah. Alright. So he responded responsibly,

1:41:23 and and the president is very up to speed on how this went down. You have the power to use the defense production I have the power to use a lot of things. Yeah. Would would you consider using the defense production act to possibly regulate

1:41:36 or control AI or AI? I would, but I don't I'm not sure I have to do that. I think so far it's been very responsible.

1:41:42 Actually, was a competitor

1:41:45 Amazon. And a part owner

1:41:47 that turned Anthropic in. They didn't like that what they were doing. They were very concerned. Think of it, it's part owner

1:41:54 and

1:41:56 think it worked out very well, think. This was Amazon you know? Yeah. Oh, Amazon Web Services. They they said, hey, we were able to jailbreak it.

1:42:06 Oh, okay. Yeah.

1:42:08 I I have one I have another AI clip, but just a quick a shorty here and another Axios

1:42:14 interview. They get good stuff out of the president. Listen to this. Meanwhile, in a new interview with Axios,

1:42:19 president Trump was asked what he learned about the limits of his power during this war with Iran. Here's what he said. What have you learned about not just the exercise of power, but the limits on your power as a result of the conflict? There are no limits. No. No. Not I haven't learned that lesson yet. I know there are, but, you know, there are no limits. We defeated them totally militarily. However, beginning of conflict,

1:42:41 you had talked about you only wanted unconditional surrender.

1:42:45 And Well MOU doesn't look like unconditional surrender. Well, it really probably is unconditional surrender. His? I think so. I got no limits to my power, baby. I can do whatever I want. Yeah. This clip was played by all the shows this morning and Oh, yeah. And with with all these Democrats. And they should use this as a campaign for the midterms. Oh.

1:43:05 The guy's out of control.

1:43:07 He's he's insane.

1:43:09 Power hungry.

1:43:12 Yeah. Maybe they will.

1:43:15 So what I find interesting about what's happening with the AI

1:43:19 build out is all these companies are now raising debt through bonds.

1:43:25 So I guess Yeah. I guess it's pathetic. It is pathetic. I mean, this means no one else wants to invest in. No one wants to buy shares. So, well, okay. A bond maybe.

1:43:36 We'll do something with that. Here's CNBC. Well, so this AI boom and all of this reliance on debt to fund the data center build out, it's giving tech investors

1:43:44 a lot more reason to watch the bond market, especially when you look at the ten years. So smaller,

1:43:49 high growth tech stocks have really always been pretty rate sensitive, but the giants in tech have been historically a lot more immune to what is going on with rates and the Fed because of their fortress balance sheets, but that is changing significantly.

1:44:01 The biggest tech companies are now expected to spend about $750,000,000,000

1:44:06 on this AI build out just this year. And recently, a handful, as you mentioned, Brian, have tapped debt markets. You have Nvidia and Oracle. Meta filed for about a $30,000,000,000 offering. Amazon has filed the paperwork for a loan facility. Alphabet had one of the biggest out there, and then OpenAI has pointed to access to public debt as one major motivator to actually go public. Analysts that I've been talking to widely expect this borrowing spree to continue barring any sort of rate shock here, but these companies have been depleting their cash reserves at the same time. Goldman Sachs noting recently that after accounting for CapEx, free cash flow is at its lowest level since the .com area. You can see that chart there. Part of this is all financial engineering, so there are reasons you would wanna borrow instead of actually spending your cash when it comes to these tech companies. It can be a lot more capital efficient. They can preserve some flexibility. Peter Bookvar put it well. He told me earlier, Brian, bottom line, tech investors are learning what it's like to be an investor in an old economy industrial business.

1:45:02 What's your take on this on this Wow. It's nuts. Rich. Okay.

1:45:06 Nuts. But explain the difference between well, explain if you're in the bond market. Well, it's a bookkeeping thing. I mean, they have the I and I can't explain because I'm not a CPA. No. But there's some bookkeeping angle

1:45:18 that allows them to the way it'll be written off if it fit the whole thing folds

1:45:24 is is easier

1:45:25 to do under these circumstances because it's just the debt.

1:45:29 You can also you can carry it forward. There's all kinds of it has to do with tax implications. There's a lot of fancy

1:45:36 footwork that goes on

1:45:38 in some in an effort to deal with the fact that you got way too much cash flow here that's gonna be have to be dealt with. I I don't know. I I can't give you any more than it's just there's something fishy.

1:45:51 Well, we we could smell the fishy, we just don't understand it, but it doesn't sound right. Because we neither one of us are are

1:45:58 accountants.

1:45:59 No. But there's somebody out there that can maybe explain it a little better, maybe our our guy local guy here. But

1:46:06 I wanna talk about something that you talked about with me after the show when you had another fail. That was in confidence.

1:46:13 Oh.

1:46:15 I don't even know what you're talking about.

1:46:17 Yeah. The the the robot didn't put this spreadsheet together correctly. Yes. Yeah. The robot failed. Yes. So I I talk I discussed this with JC.

1:46:26 You want shall I explain what what it is? People Yeah. I want you to explain it, and I'll explain what he said

1:46:31 that you're doing wrong. Oh. Oh, it's my fault. Okay. It is but no. It's not your fault. It's the AI's fault, but it's Yeah. There's a trick. Okay. Oh, well, okay. I've heard most of the tricks. So the robot, the same one who knew

1:46:45 who knew correctly

1:46:47 that it was taping football games, so the robot is is on the ball.

1:46:51 I have the robot, the minute I hit the end of show mix, I say robot do the credits. And the robot

1:46:58 knows,

1:46:59 it's written scripts, but I'll just say the robot knows to go into the spreadsheet

1:47:04 to pick out the names 200 to 300, put them into my

1:47:08 outline

1:47:10 and in the credits under associate executive producers and then 300 above and put those into the

1:47:16 executive producers. It also knows to pull out the Knights, the Dame, so it's all nicely in the show notes.

1:47:21 And it works five times in a row perfectly and the sixth sixth time, it just it just farts and does everything wrong.

1:47:30 And

1:47:31 I'm curious what JC had to say about that.

1:47:34 He says the mistake you're making

1:47:37 is you're telling it it's doing something wrong.

1:47:41 This isn't counterintuitive.

1:47:43 He says that he says in particular that especially Claude

1:47:47 has a tendency to absorb

1:47:50 a criticism that didn't do something right, and then from then on assume that, well, it's this guy I guess it's okay once in a while, and it'll keep doing it. He says it'll get worse. Really?

1:48:01 You have to start from scratch. In other words, you reset

1:48:05 and start the pro process from the beginning with as if it never made a mistake. Oh, well, okay. So I when he says reset, I presume he means clear the context,

1:48:16 which I do. But these are actual skills that I've written for it, that it has written.

1:48:21 And it and when you call a skill,

1:48:23 it is supposed to call the same scripts and do the exact same thing every single time. It's just interpreting me saying run those scripts.

1:48:32 And yet, then it it it and it'll come back and when I say you did it wrong, you know what the answer is? Oh, I'm sorry. I was freelancing

1:48:39 instead of adhering to the skill. This is the problem.

1:48:43 It just Yeah. Well, you're not you're not supposed to do that. Oh, okay.

1:48:47 Okay. In other words, don't ever say he did anything wrong, just tell him to do it over or start over again. How about this? So you need positive reinforcement. Good job, but let's try it this Good job,

1:49:01 Thanks. Alright. Well, we're up to speed on how to do it. Alright. There is no doubt in my mind

1:49:07 that AI is going to increase jobs,

1:49:11 increase opportunity for people,

1:49:14 for those of you who get into it and and and know using

1:49:19 ChatGPT or a chatbot is not the way to do it.

1:49:23 You've gotta get this thing loaded on your computer so it can destroy your files and after a couple of rounds of that I like it destroying the files which it does all the time. It literally What? I did what? No. This morning,

1:49:36 I have another skill. I call it stage.

1:49:39 So I say, here's all my clips.

1:49:41 Now I want you to organize those into meta categories.

1:49:44 So like Iran. Right? So I have Iran

1:49:47 and then it's and then subcategories,

1:49:49 Beirut Israel

1:49:50 before the MOU was signed, after the MOU was signed

1:49:54 from the right. So it's we didn't play any of these, but responses from the right, responses from the left, Corn Moose Oil, Vance in Switzerland, and then the Sunday shows.

1:50:04 So it is pretty good at doing that. But in the meantime,

1:50:08 I had

1:50:10 created the end of show mix,

1:50:12 I put this spreadsheet in the donations folder,

1:50:15 I put two meetup

1:50:16 reports into the meetups folder, I put the ISOs in the ISOs folder

1:50:21 and

1:50:22 and I and the robot's doing this plate skill and it just deletes all those folders.

1:50:27 I'm like, what happened to my folders? Oh,

1:50:31 oh, no. I I broke my own rule and deleted them. Let me see if there's a backup. No, of course, no.

1:50:39 And so I had to do all that work over again.

1:50:42 I wanna see if I can find this exact Wow.

1:50:45 Oh, yeah. It's exact words. Let me see. What happened?

1:50:49 When I reshipped the renumbered folder at 12:02, I used rsync

1:50:53 dash dash delete on the whole show folder.

1:50:56 Dash dash delete removes anything that isn't in my local mirror. My mirror only had the o eight meta folder, so it deleted your top level donations end of show and

1:51:06 your your j c d clips folder survived only because you added it at 12:04 after my sync. This is the exact thing the stage doctrine warns against. Quote, do not delete extraneous files.

1:51:19 Adam may have dropped files there. I rationalize

1:51:22 dash dash delete as safe because the folder was new this session. That was wrong.

1:51:29 Yeah.

1:51:30 Yeah. That was wrong. Alright.

1:51:33 So

1:51:34 screw these AIs.

1:51:37 I mean, really I'm glad you're doing this.

1:51:40 Yeah. Well, it's teaching me is that a,

1:51:44 you don't have to boo your commencement speaker about AI

1:51:48 because if you get a little bit proficient

1:51:51 and you learn to do stuff like backup files because the robot will delete your crap,

1:51:56 you can you can use it to some to some advantage.

1:52:00 No doubt about it.

1:52:02 But it's you can't let this stuff just run alone and run your company.

1:52:07 That's not gonna work. That's not It's gonna go out. And it And it will never work as long as these things hallucinate.

1:52:13 So it will it will it will never It'll never work perfectly

1:52:16 ever. No. Well, when we when we get to quantum, it will, Joe.

1:52:21 Get quantum.

1:52:23 Once you hit the quantum, we'll be fine.

1:52:27 Alright. Well, I got a couple of things. I got some CIA CIA

1:52:30 stooge that was on CNN I thought was funny. Okay. I'll just hit him. Tonight, Bill Pulte, the Trump loyalist and federal housing officer who started today as acting director of national intelligence

1:52:40 despite having no intelligence experience, using his first public comments in his new role not to talk about US intelligence,

1:52:47 but to tout government owned mortgage entities Fannie Mae and It

1:52:52 comes as CNN reports that Pulte, after visiting DNI headquarters yesterday,

1:52:57 requested a list of every employee in the office so he could determine whether to fire hundreds of them. Sources say that Pulte also asked if he'd have access to a government plane and a security detail and whether he would receive top

1:53:11 top secret security clearance.

1:53:13 Out for now, John Cipher, a 28 veteran of the CIA's clandestine service who was warned about the danger of Pulte overseeing US intelligence. Danger. John, thanks so much for being with us. What does it tell you about Pulte when he's asking

1:53:26 about a security detail and access to a government plan? Oh, it says he's unserious and unqualified, but for me the bigger issue is it shows that the president doesn't take the intelligence community seriously.

1:53:37 If he continues to put these kind of people in there, who clearly are there just to do his bidding

1:53:42 and to try to sort of use the intelligence community as own as his own detective agency to to declassify information, to create conspiracy theories. Ah, create conspiracy theories. Oh, that's that's cool. Okay. So this so this guy's saying so the

1:53:57 president should never do that. Not like Obama telling him to change the entire

1:54:02 report Political

1:54:04 the the reports that said Russia had nothing to do with the twenty sixteen election. Yeah. There's nothing like that.

1:54:12 Why do we why do we even argue this anymore?

1:54:15 I don't know why we bother, but you're

1:54:17 right. But

1:54:19 here we go. It shows that the president doesn't take the intelligence community seriously. And if he doesn't want unfiltered intelligence, then there really is no reason to have an intelligence community, frankly.

1:54:29 Wow. And Pulte asking for the name of every employee to see whether to potentially fire hundreds of them. I mean, Trump clearly wants to

1:54:39 alter the way that the ODNI functions. Yeah. I don't know how a list of people can show anybody who's loyal or not loyal or what party they belong to.

1:54:48 As you know, public servants

1:54:51 are you know, work for all different

1:54:53 for Republicans and Democrats, different presidents,

1:54:57 and in no way does anybody in in the intelligence community show their partisan support or is it written down or in their thing. So I don't know what a list of employees does for him. And if his job is just to fire everybody in the directorate of national intelligence,

1:55:13 it goes to the question of do we really need a director of national intelligence? The thing was created

1:55:17 in 2004 to coordinate

1:55:19 between intelligence agencies.

1:55:22 It's sort of a process job to try to create standards and make sure regulations across the community work.

1:55:28 But ever since it it began, you know, the people inside the community that do the real work, the real spying and the analysis

1:55:35 have always rolled their eyes at the d the DNI and see it sort of as a just an extra layer of burden.

1:55:40 And so, sure, if they wanna fire people, then just get rid of the DNI. I think it would do everybody a good service. Oh, yeah. With much rather Wait a minute. Wait. Wait. What's his argument here? With much rather. Let's

1:55:51 this guy stinks, but they should get rid of the whole place.

1:55:55 And then he also says that there's no partisanship in these in the spying community. Like, the 51 intelligence officers who came out with the Hunter Biden laptop bullcrap,

1:56:05 half of them were still working.

1:56:08 So this guy is like it's just they don't have their act together with with the It's messaging

1:56:13 not true

1:56:15 because

1:56:17 George w Bush in 2008

1:56:20 with executive order

1:56:21 thirteen four seventy

1:56:24 solidified the DNI's legal authority to direct intelligence gathering and analysis.

1:56:31 So that's a little bit more than just kind of like Doing paperwork. Yeah. But and set policy for intelligence sharing with foreign agencies

1:56:40 for the hiring and firing of senior intelligence officials.

1:56:45 The DNI was given further responsibility

1:56:47 for the entire

1:56:49 intelligence communites,

1:56:51 whistleblowing

1:56:52 and source protection

1:56:54 by president Barack Obama

1:56:56 via

1:56:57 presidential policy directive 19.

1:57:00 So there was a lot it's a there's a lot more power here. Guy's basically lying.

1:57:06 Well,

1:57:07 a CIA spook lying? Let

1:57:10 me think about that. Magalue Ellis, who we know have Trump Magalue Ellis. Encouraging him to clean house. Here is Steve Bannon earlier today in response to CNN's story on cultic. Get your guy to walk into everyone in the offices. Everybody who's in that room that's not your person, that did not come with you, and you say, you're fired. You're fired. You're fired. You're fired. And if I need to, I'm a start a criminal investigation, sweep your phones up, and see who talked to CNN and the New York Times. Fight fire with fire. A far right activist Laura Loomer tweeting this as well, quote, we are expected to see some well deserved mass firing soon adding Whenever they want some other voice on the other side of an argument, they always pull out the nut jobs.

1:57:51 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, this is clearly what everyone else thinks is Laura Loomer. Fight fire with fire. A far right activist Laura Loomer tweeting this as well, quote, we are expected to see some well deserved mass firing soon, adding, quote, we all know who needs to go.

1:58:06 Criminal investigations Who? Mass firings.

1:58:09 To your point about just getting rid of the ODNI, I mean,

1:58:13 this even the most efficient way to do that if that is what Trump is trying to accomplish? No. Of course not. I mean, we want I think most Americans agree we want a professional, serious,

1:58:24 and expertise driven intelligence community. You want an intelligence community that's that's focused on foreign adversaries.

1:58:31 These people are talking about creating

1:58:33 partisan people who just do whatever the president wants and get involved in domestic issues.

1:58:39 Mean, I our intelligence community foreign intelligence community is very powerful. And if it starts doing things like getting involved in our elections, in election voting systems, this kind of thing, this is exactly what we've had decades of reform about to make sure that we don't have that. No.

1:58:56 We can't have anyone seeing what we're doing. No. No. No. We can't have that.

1:59:01 Laughable.

1:59:02 No. That is laughable. I have one

1:59:05 short clip here from ABC which

1:59:08 stuck out like a sore thumb

1:59:10 considering there's no heat on this

1:59:13 Disclosure Day movie.

1:59:15 Hold on a second. Do we have a box office on that?

1:59:20 Disclosure

1:59:21 Negative number.

1:59:23 Movie

1:59:24 box office. Let's see. Because no one's talking about it.

1:59:29 60 what is it? 66 to 66,000,000

1:59:35 in The US. Oh, that's not too bad.

1:59:38 That's for one one weekend? Let me see what it is. Let me see. What is that total? Let me see. Where's the number 66?

1:59:50 That's interesting. It only shows oh, maybe I'll do this here. Domestic total

1:59:55 as of June 21, that's today. 78,300,000

2:00:00 after its second weekend, which saw a drop of 62%

2:00:03 to drop to 17,000,000.

2:00:05 Worldwide total approximately 1 20 8.

2:00:08 With a production budget of 115,000,000,

2:00:11 estimated marketing costs of 80,000,000,

2:00:14 The film needs to gross around 300,000,000 worldwide to break even.

2:00:19 So You'll probably barely make it. Yeah. I I so it's not a it's not a blockbuster by Steven Spielberg standards.

2:00:26 So let's Yeah. Looks like a dog. So let's amp it up a bit. Did China and Russia reverse engineer alien technology?

2:00:33 Well, there's a frightening thought for this Friday.

2:00:36 It's one of the claims made by Jordan Flowers, the executive director of the UAP Disclosure Foundation. UAP being unidentified

2:00:43 anomalous phenomena,

2:00:45 of course. Now Flowers says in this latest batch of declassified UFO documents, there's evidence that American adversaries

2:00:51 retrieved downed UAPs and tried to make their own versions,

2:00:55 translations.

2:00:56 Flying saucers were picked up by the likes of Russia and China and they have been tinkering with them ever since. Now he also mentions claims that the Russians and the Chinese have been surveilling The United States'

2:01:06 UAP programs. Okay. They reverse engineered it. There you go. That makes nothing but sense.

2:01:12 Yeah. Sure they did. Okay.

2:01:16 Well, I think with that,

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2:03:22 I was talking with Dave Jones about AI slop and I say, know,

2:03:27 we we saw this curve in an accelerated ramp and I think this we are a very good

2:03:33 petri dish of AI generation,

2:03:36 the AI content generation

2:03:38 where

2:03:40 we had artists

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2:03:44 making Darren O'Neil actually, he he did a lot of stuff with Photoshop and but we had a lot of top notch artists who Oh, Darren flew

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2:03:55 once the AI began. Well, you're you're you're jumping the gun.

2:03:59 So we had all these audio we had all these artists

2:04:03 and once the AI, slot generators came in, people started using that and the artists became very disillusioned

2:04:10 and upset because

2:04:12 they would spend an hour or longer on a piece of art and someone came in and typed in, do a funny thing like this.

2:04:19 And Yeah. You know, and and then we'd pick that because it was funny. Then we went through

2:04:24 at least a year, I'd say of, oh my lord, look at this. It's all orange.

2:04:30 It's all the same.

2:04:31 It's, you know, there's really nothing

2:04:33 exciting

2:04:34 once in a while, you know, and then of course don't think it was a whole year, but there was a long period. A long period.

2:04:40 And from time to time, an actual artist would do something, would just pop to the stack like, that's great, we'll use that. And now, we've gotten to this place

2:04:49 where people are starting to understand how to use the tool

2:04:53 and they and there's still a lot of slop, no doubt about it. But there there's some useful good funny things and it still comes down to

2:05:02 the God given creativity that you put into your prompt and what you really want it to be.

2:05:09 And now I I can see it starting to pay off. I mean, not if people had to pay what the what the actual compute charge is because that that would would end it very very quickly. You could not forget it. That that would end it very quickly.

2:05:22 But for 1878,

2:05:23 we titled that the dream build loop.

2:05:26 It was a nice piece here from Blue Acorn. Now, Blue Acorn is an OG artist

2:05:31 and this piece was more intricate than I thought at first. This is the California bear leaving California. You've got all kinds of dead people in the form of ghosts

2:05:42 submitting ballots. But then in the background, there's the ghost train high speed rail to nowhere.

2:05:48 There was a lot of stuff in here and I'd It's a great piece. The more that I look at it. Yeah. It is a good piece.

2:05:54 It really is. And and and you can tell by the comments that people leave on on x or wherever you post it. But more importantly,

2:06:03 it's a hat trick.

2:06:04 It is. Blue Acorn, three in a row. It's amazing.

2:06:08 That's right. He had the Roosevelt,

2:06:12 wrestling match. He had the the ballots in Alaska.

2:06:16 And you can tell he has a style. You can tell it's his style now, which is also kind of interesting

2:06:21 that that works that way. So congratulations Blue Acorn. We had a couple other pieces that we looked at. Let me scroll down here. Know, today, people who have been doing artwork for the show have been listening now. You know that we're very traditional when it comes to these types of holidays

2:06:37 or celebrations. Right. Yeah. Yeah. We do not have holiday stuff. Can I mention something about that hat trick? Yeah. The two of us tend to

2:06:45 eschew,

2:06:46 to use that word. Oh, yeah. We're like, we can't we can't let him win. We can't let him win.

2:06:51 The hat tricks. Yeah. And, you know, oh, he's going for three in a row. No. Let's see. We let's find something that's better. Let's screw them.

2:06:59 And but

2:07:01 just so you know how hard it is to achieve a three in a row like that. It's very difficult. Yeah.

2:07:09 There were a couple of MOUs.

2:07:11 It was wasn't really anything that great.

2:07:14 It stood out. It stood out as a good piece.

2:07:18 And so, yeah. So today we'll we'll obviously be looking for something. Noagendaartgenerator.com

2:07:23 by the way is where you can submit your art during the show. Noagendaartgenerator.com.

2:07:28 Today is Father's Day

2:07:30 in America, not with the the European Catholics.

2:07:34 And here's my observation. I may have made the same observation last year, but I get more

2:07:41 men and fathers congratulating

2:07:43 me on Father's Day than children or women.

2:07:47 And this has been quite the thing where the fathers

2:07:51 are lifting each other up.

2:07:54 Hey, man. Like, you know, rob the constitutional lawyer,

2:07:58 you know, all kinds of people, just men, fathers who will we send each other happy Father's Day. You Tina

2:08:05 forgot.

2:08:08 And it wasn't it wasn't and, know, I'm like, whatever.

2:08:11 And I'm I'm a stepdad

2:08:13 and I treat her girls as my own.

2:08:17 And

2:08:17 so we walk into the church and the the kids are giving little Father's Day pen gifts and he says, oh, wow. Yeah. Happy Father's Day. And and it it really hit me like, we have been so brainwashed about dads.

2:08:30 You know, we talk about the

2:08:34 gay men kissing in Netflix and prime special prime TV shows.

2:08:39 Every single dad

2:08:41 is always a doofus.

2:08:43 Homer Simpson,

2:08:45 everybody loves Raymond,

2:08:46 you know,

2:08:48 was it Bundy?

2:08:51 What was that show called?

2:08:52 I mean Married with Children. Married with Children.

2:08:55 All

2:08:55 dads are portrayed as idiots.

2:08:58 In commercials, like, oh, I bought the wrong laughing powder.

2:09:03 We're portrayed culture has turned us into dumbos.

2:09:08 And Buffoons. Buffoon buffoons. There it is. That's the right word. Buffoons.

2:09:12 And it's paying off because now

2:09:15 even my own wife didn't even think of of happy Father's Day.

2:09:20 We've just been we've been turned into blithering buffoons,

2:09:24 nothing matters, you're not important, you're no good, you're not doing anything.

2:09:29 And it's a it's quite it's scandalous quite honestly.

2:09:33 Scandalous. War on men. That's

2:09:36 okay.

2:09:37 Let me tag that one. Alright. It's scandalous

2:09:41 and it's an outrage and you It is kinda scandalous. It is. It is. And and we shouldn't stand for it. We should not stand for this anymore.

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2:11:03 I got one from Tina's sister, that was very nice.

2:11:07 So there's pastor Jimmy,

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2:11:25 I'm missing John C. Dvorak on this list. Happy Father's Day, John.

2:11:29 Hey. Same to you. Yeah. See? Because no one did did you get any Father's Day well wishes from From Jay. Well, yes. She works with you. She has to. Yeah. It could be very weird if she forgot. Anyway, back to Sherscovy's note. Happy Father's Day gentlemen. Please accept this donation of $1,000 plus fees.

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2:17:41 That's bad too. Has that increased for you during after your your procedure? Not at all. Any any benefits? Any any Any benefits?

2:17:51 Just any benefits?

2:17:53 Do you run the Yeah. My blood pressure's way down. I have a more steady heartbeat. Do you run the marathon fast or no? No. I still haven't gotten my any any

2:18:02 the stamina is getting closer to normal, but not good. Oh, how's your stamina? Stamina stinks. That's

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2:18:12 But that could have something to do with being old.

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2:19:26 Humbly requesting house buying karma here in Danville, California. The Bay Area is so nonsensical.

2:19:33 Let's see how long the AI investment circle jerk goes in for until the bubble pops.

2:19:39 God bless you both, says Sir Optimus. Is that a problem? Is there a problem with the with housing in the in the area?

2:19:46 Well, now that you mention it, we can play a bonus clip, one of the rare clips we can play during the donation segment. Wow. A bonus clip. Okay. What is it?

2:19:54 This will be,

2:19:56 California house tax scam.

2:20:00 Buying a new house in California?

2:20:02 Congratulations.

2:20:03 Sacramento

2:20:04 just added $324,000

2:20:06 to your price. No. I'm not joking. It's called a b one thirty, section 58,

2:20:13 page 137

2:20:14 of a budget bill. Our buddy Newsom signed last June. Everybody was staring at the HOA fine cap on the front of the bill. Meanwhile, on page one thirty seven, they buried the biggest housing tax in California history. Here's

2:20:29 how the scam works. The state calculates how many miles the people living in that new house are gonna drive for the next twenty years. And if they're driving more than Sacramento thinks is acceptable,

2:20:40 the developer pays a penalty.

2:20:42 $2 per extra mile. Twenty years deep. Over the life of the fee, 324,000.

2:20:50 What? Per home. And that cost doesn't come out of the developer's pocket. It comes out of yours. Added to the purchase price or the monthly rent. You bought a $600,000

2:20:59 house. It's now $924,000.

2:21:03 Rent was supposed to be 2,500.

2:21:05 Well, now it's $38.50.

2:21:07 For what? Because Sacramento doesn't want you driving to work. Oh, and our good friend Ashley Zavala on ABC ten, well, she's still saying it's just a study. That what lawmakers approved was not a tax. Ashley,

2:21:20 read page one thirty seven. I'll wait. Wow.

2:21:23 What kind of sucky system is that? Unbelievable.

2:21:28 Wow.

2:21:29 I don't quite understand it, but it sounds bad. It's gonna be I'm sure there's gonna be some suits that'll be over. It's just one of these things they keep doing this stuff because Newsom is totally convinced that we don't go all electric even though our grid can't handle it. Yeah. It's already been calculated. We can't get enough electricity to make everything electric.

2:21:47 And,

2:21:49 and now they've determined that, you know, they like Berkeley, for example, has been pushing

2:21:53 making it illegal to new housing can't have gas in it. No. Of course. They have to have all electric, and they were they were pum

2:22:02 pushing Pum pushing. They were pum pushing Pum pushing. The, in induction that we talked about this. JC had this

2:22:09 induction stoves,

2:22:10 which apparently have a magnetic field that is so far away from the stove that you can't legitimately

2:22:16 cook on them without being

2:22:19 maximally punched

2:22:20 with this magnetic field which which can be cancer inducing. And it's right around the height of your crotch.

2:22:27 Yeah. It's not good. No. Here's the karma for Sir Optimus.

2:22:31 Hold on a net. You've got karma.

2:22:34 Wow. That's no good, man.

2:22:38 Say the least.

2:22:39 So we're at which one am I on? Scott. Scott.

2:22:43 Scott.

2:22:44 Scott Moore

2:22:45 Moore Butter,

2:22:47 m o h r, in Saint Albert, Alberta, Canada

2:22:52 In the morning,

2:22:53 this donation is to be a switcheroo,

2:22:56 sixtieth birthday gift from my brother, Michael Moore Butter,

2:23:00 who lives in Saskatchewan.

2:23:03 Could he please, get a d get him de douched and a mac and cheese jingle? You've

2:23:11 been de douched.

2:23:13 Mac

2:23:17 and Cheese by I n at 03:33.

2:23:20 Yes. And 333

2:23:22 from Lane Lamoreaux

2:23:25 who is in Baghdad.

2:23:27 Oh. Yes. He's in Baghdad. He is 03:30 can you turn your speakers just a bit? I'm having trouble

2:23:32 with this. Okay. Keep going.

2:23:34 He's in Baghdad and the Baghdad government IQ

2:23:39 three thirty three. Your boots on the ground, buddy, is back at the American University of Iraq, Baghdad.

2:23:44 You guys have become my buddies from Boise to North Scottsdale and now Baghdad.

2:23:50 The absence of ads, loads of laughs,

2:23:53 plus relevant info relevant info while I live abroad.

2:23:57 We wanna be your friend, Lane.

2:24:00 We definitely wanna be your friend. Let us know what's going on there in Baghdad.

2:24:04 What's happening? Is is it is it how's the nightlife?

2:24:08 Yeah.

2:24:08 It's probably in the green zone. How are you? How are you in the how are the bars? Are in the green zone?

2:24:16 That was good. It was very good.

2:24:18 Well, talking about green zones, you're gonna have to read the next one. This is from dude named Jeff, Curry Lane in Idaho.

2:24:25 250 associate executive producer credit for him. Dear John and Adam, dude named Jeff here, longtime producer and donor of Time and Talent. One of my talents has been sharing No Agenda in video form. Oh, know. I saw this the other day. Years ago, was making YouTube videos with visuals from the show like the oil pipeline maps, artwork and the troll room. Unfortunately, that ended with content strikes during COVID, but that passion never faded. Now,

2:24:50 thanks to AI and the podcast index,

2:24:53 I've started making clips from my own podcast and for friends, including the No Agenda show. It's a great way to hit people in the mouth with a zinger from the best podcast in the universe.

2:25:04 Thanks Adam for reposting one of my clips on X where you were discussing the laughable football flops.

2:25:09 If anyone wants to try it out, make your own clips from a podcast, try out my app cliparoni.com.

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2:25:20 It transcribes and finds the viral moments into shareable video clips. Well, this is good for us.

2:25:27 Especially if you're a host

2:25:29 podcast and wanna share it on platforms like YouTube or TikTok. But like Adam, don't wanna spend time in post production. Let clipperoni.com

2:25:37 do the work for you. I'd lift love to hear what fellow producers think of what I've built. Thank you guys for continuing to bring us the best podcast in the universe and may may you never find an exit strategy.

2:25:48 Yeah. People use cliparoni.com

2:25:51 on this show. Let's on this particular episode. Let's see how it works. Yeah. It's very interesting.

2:25:57 Dame Mama Thunder's up. She's, in the

2:26:00 Bitterroot Valley, Missoula, Montana 21212.

2:26:04 And she writes,

2:26:06 ITM, boomers. First time donor, long time listener. I was gifted my dame if she's a first time donor, you might as well de douche. You've

2:26:14 been de douche.

2:26:16 I was gifted my dame hood. Oh, she has actually been gifted a dame hood. Yes. By her husband two and a half years ago.

2:26:23 After the birth of our first son and after just having our second son, I realized I'm long overdue for a to donate. This is a switcheroo for my husband. Oh. This goes to Troy

2:26:33 Thunderberg.

2:26:34 Good

2:26:35 old we've heard from a lot. Good old Troy. Babe, thank you for being such an incredible husband and father. I I fall

2:26:42 more and more in love with you every day watching you teach Teddy

2:26:46 on his bike and love on Jasper

2:26:50 The and love on Jasper fills my heart. Okay. We are so proud of you and love you so much. Happy Father's Day. There was one. Yeah. The The first Wheelie best

2:27:01 Wheelie best dad in the universe. Obviously, of the kids says Wheelie. Wheelie. Wheelie. It's wheelie good. Jingle request, 33 is the magic number and mac and cheese. Interesting.

2:27:12 Please also, throw in some millennial karma. Thank you, sirs. Most sincerely,

2:27:17 Mabel Jean Thunderberg,

2:27:20 aka Dame Mama Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley. I think didn't we have a specific millennial karma?

2:27:28 I think we did. Millennial

2:27:31 I think I think we did. Hold on a second. Millennial

2:27:38 is

2:27:39 it double n? Millennial

2:27:41 Yes.

2:27:43 We had

2:27:45 I don't know if this is No, that's not it.

2:27:48 Millennial

2:27:50 karma.

2:27:51 I thought we had a millennial karma.

2:27:54 No.

2:27:55 Millenn now now it's now I'm obsessed with it. Hold on. Me see where it Yeah. He's obsessed.

2:28:01 This is gonna never get the show's never gonna end. Yeah. Alright. Here we go.

2:28:17 Cheese. Cheese. Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and Mac

2:28:26 and and cheese. Hey, everybody.

2:28:31 You've got karma. I knew it was in there somewhere.

2:28:35 And there's La Jolla Salt Corporation coming in with $210 and 66 from La Jolla, California and says, hobnobbing among lunar economy pioneers preparing for the IPO of our new Arm Salt x.

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2:29:08 all natural way to nourish your skin on earth or off. Enjoy the luxurious scents and fresh clean feel every time. People, please support the show and follow No Agenda podcast on Instagram. Yeah, there you go. And wind up by saying,

2:29:25 go podcasting.

2:29:27 Thank you very much.

2:29:29 You noticed that that the previous donation was the first one that wasn't from a dude

2:29:35 saying happy Father's Day?

2:29:37 Interesting.

2:29:38 Yeah. I'm

2:29:39 just noticing. In fact, we get another example coming.

2:29:43 Eli the coffee guy

2:29:45 and,

2:29:47 February, which is unusual.

2:29:49 Yeah. There's no, no No coded dates. No coded date in there. And no name of city that came through this spreadsheet oddly.

2:29:57 He writes, I'm fortunate to have two fathers. My dad, is 83, still bowls twice a week and runs a computer repair business. My stepdad passed last year from complications of a bypass.

2:30:08 Add to that the father figures of my uncles and grandpa who were union pipe coverers.

2:30:15 Needless to say, I have all of them to thank for the man I am today. To thank for as I and I strive to be that same role model for my son. Happy Father's Day all.

2:30:25 It takes a real man to raise real men, and those men need real coffee.

2:30:32 So visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.

2:30:34 Use the code ITM 20 for 20% off your order. Happy Father's Day and stay caffeinated,

2:30:39 says Eli the coffee. That is great. Still loving that cold brew, Eli. Thank you. Hey. There's the Indy No Agenda meetup from Greenwood, Indiana. That's, sir Mark and De Maria host that every single month. $200. This is the Indy NA meetup switcheroo.

2:30:53 And, Dame Cindy of the Tito's gets the, associate executive producer. And she says, no, no double up karma. Not entirely true, but we'll give it to you. You've got Double up.

2:31:05 Karma.

2:31:08 Which moves is the Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. Linda Lupatkin, $200.

2:31:13 Jobs karma, your resume has about ten seconds to make an impression, and most don't.

2:31:19 For a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com.

2:31:23 Linda helps professionals and executives

2:31:25 position

2:31:26 their experience so employers can see the value.

2:31:30 That's ImageMaker's ink with a k. And Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes best, Linda. Jobs,

2:31:37 jobs,

2:31:38 jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

2:31:42 You've got karma.

2:31:44 And that wraps up our associate and executive producers. No. Oh, we have one more. I'm sorry. One more. Two more. Oh, I'm so wrong.

2:31:51 You're right. I was wrong.

2:31:53 Dakota Walker, Portland, Maine, $200. Hi, John and Adam. With today's donation of $200, I believe I've finally reached knighthood, accounting below confirmed.

2:32:03 I have completely goofed on my I completely goofed on my last donation note where I asked for help obtaining vaccine exemption for my kids in Maine. I gave the wrong email address.

2:32:13 If anyone has helpful information, please send it to the correct email address 6607walker@gmail.com.

2:32:22 So exemption for the kids in Portland, Maine is a real problem up there.

2:32:28 Email address 6607walker@gmail.com.

2:32:33 Request, think of the children jingle, house buying karma. Happy Father's Day to all the fathers in Gitmo Nation.

2:32:40 Won't somebody please think of the children?

2:32:44 You've

2:32:45 got

2:32:46 karma.

2:32:47 And

2:32:49 now we're at the end with Amy Lynn in Cold Spring, Minnesota.

2:32:54 200.

2:32:55 Happy Father's Day, gents. There you go. There's a lady telling us happy Father's Day. Second one. This is a switcheroo for my smoking hot.

2:33:03 Huzz. Huzz.

2:33:05 Dan the man. Huzz.

2:33:07 Happy Father's Day, and thank you for always supporting

2:33:10 Zealy. Zealy. Zealy. And I, no matter what

2:33:15 z z a Zealy. Zealy.

2:33:18 Zealy. Zealy.

2:33:21 It just looks like Exley. It looks like Exley.

2:33:24 Life throws at us and to respond to his Mother's Day donation for me. Ah,

2:33:31 Amy Lynn is not a stripper.

2:33:34 You're welcome for keeping this house together.

2:33:36 Parenting

2:33:37 a teenage girl is hard, but we got this. On another note, if you're

2:33:42 looking for down to earth fun hairstylist,

2:33:45 come see me at my suite in Waite Park, Minnesota.

2:33:51 Refreshed

2:33:52 it's called the Refreshed Hair Studio. Let's,

2:33:56 quote, do this.

2:33:59 Smiley face. Last but not least, thank you too for the biweekly media deconstruction

2:34:05 and entertainment.

2:34:06 It's immensely

2:34:07 appreciated

2:34:07 and enjoyed.

2:34:09 Sincerely,

2:34:10 Amy Lynn,

2:34:11 not a stripper.

2:34:14 Oh, wow. Bummer.

2:34:16 Alright. Now we get to thank all of our executive and associate executive producers. These credits are the real deal. You can use them anywhere. These Hollywood credits are recognized including imdb.com.

2:34:26 We appreciate you and congratulations

2:34:29 with your credits.

2:34:31 Our formula is this.

2:34:33 We go out,

2:34:34 we hit people in the mouth.

2:34:48 And we continue down the list, $50 or above, never under 50 for reasons of anonymity and Amy Harmon comes in from Asheville, North Carolina, $1.77

2:34:56 and 60ยข.

2:34:58 It is a $17.76

2:34:59 donation. Waza Waza to the best dad in the universe who doesn't listen to the show but I hit it in mouth all the time. XOXO.

2:35:07 Hey, come on dad.

2:35:09 Stuart Walton from Staffordshire, that's in England,

2:35:12 10561.

2:35:15 And he made a $100.25,

2:35:19 one for every year since dad died donation to the show in honor of my late father, Ken Walton, CBE,

2:35:25 that's a citizen of the British Empire on Father's Day, June 21.

2:35:30 This is my sixth annual Father's Day donation in honor of my late father, Ken Walton c b e, who died of a heart attack, aged 71 on Father's Day,

2:35:37 June two thousand one, twenty five years ago, putting for a birdie on the eleventh green at Bishop's Stortford Golf Club.

2:35:46 Died too young to see all his grandchildren have succeeded and I miss him every day. A real life commander, oh, commander of the British Empire, pardon me, commander of the British Empire awarded on the Queen's birthday honors list in 1984 for services to British industry.

2:36:03 Oh. Oh, that's a very nice That's a knighting. That is a knighting.

2:36:07 No. Emily, in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska, 10535,

2:36:11 saw the newsletter for the first time when the link was on No Agenda's Instagram story. So

2:36:16 here's someone who who found it found us through the Instagram.

2:36:20 Instagram story no less. Jay is really rocking it. Been listening for years by the recommendation of Saddle Tramp brand on Instagram. Please de douche me. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. You've been de douche. Richard j Lindquist with $100. Thank you. Your favorite pool guy, Austin, Roseville, California, $100. Drinking Blanton's with my dad out of his houseboat at Lake Shasta in Northern California.

2:36:44 Happy Father's Day, men. Your favorite pool guy, Austin. Ian Field, a $100. James Dilmore, Chipley, Florida, $100. No longer a ditch douchebag. You've

2:36:54 been de douched.

2:36:57 Tim Heasel

2:36:58 came in with a boob donation plus fees. So that's $84.38.

2:37:02 Thank you very much. Sir becoming heroic in Schererville,

2:37:05 Indiana.

2:37:06 Also,

2:37:07 boob donation with fees, $84.29.

2:37:10 Happy Father's Day in heaven, sir becoming heroic. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs from Concord, North Carolina with eighty eighty o eight. God bless America and boobs. Sir Marv Santella

2:37:23 Santella in Tucson, Arizona 7344.

2:37:27 And he wants a shout out to his son, Corey Santella, his first father's day. Congrats. Many more to come from sir Marv. Nicholas Leary, Columbus, Ohio 7272.

2:37:37 Sir Dougherty in Stevens City, Virginia. Happy Father's Day, sir not Jake from Sir Dougherty, 5678.

2:37:44 5678,

2:37:45 we see it. Double nickels and dime from Danielle Williams in Weed, California.

2:37:50 Lydia Terry, Rochester, New Hampshire, 50 333.

2:37:53 Matthew Funk, Saint Helens, Oregon, 5272.

2:37:57 Bob Funk, happy fur happy fiftieth Father's Day to the best father in the universe.

2:38:02 Sir Selv Selvarin,

2:38:04 Silver Spring, Maryland, 50 two seventy two, happy Father's Day from Sir Selvorin of the DC Swamp. Have a wonderful

2:38:11 Father's Day and first day of summer.

2:38:13 Carl Vogler, 5272,

2:38:15 thanks us for the sanity. You're welcome. Sir James Durante, San Diego, California, Fifty Two Seventy Two. Happy Father's Day to Adam and John. Also, Father's Day to my dad, John, and myself, sir James Durante of Durante

2:38:28 Of San Diego.

2:38:32 Love Dame Nancy of the Confused. I think it's just Dame Nancy of the Confused. San Bruno, California 5244.

2:38:38 Thank you for working on Father's Day. Yes.

2:38:42 May we point that out? We work on all kinds of holidays.

2:38:45 Forrest Martin, $50.05.

2:38:48 Here are the fifties. Isaac Boiney in Waterbury,

2:38:51 Vermont.

2:38:52 Long term freeloader, please de douche. You've

2:38:57 been de douche.

2:38:59 John Fitzpatrick from Herber Springs,

2:39:02 A

2:39:06 R is was it Arizona? Arkansas.

2:39:08 And that's I should mention that we only have two fifties. That's it. And we didn't get the checks this week. Oh. Because the post office was closed on the dubious holiday called Juneteenth.

2:39:18 Ah, so you did not get your pickles either?

2:39:21 I didn't

2:39:23 pickles? Your Louisiana dill pickles.

2:39:26 I thought those already came.

2:39:27 Well, you didn't mention it. Did you get them? Yeah. Did you try them?

2:39:31 Well, it they could I I I'm on a no salt diet so I haven't tried them yet. Oh,

2:39:37 that's a bummer.

2:39:39 Oh, man.

2:39:41 When can you when can you can you ever eat them again? Can you ever eat I think, yeah, but it won't be like tomorrow.

2:39:47 Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I was all excited to hear you how wonder because you when you taste these pickles, you'll never want, any other pickles again.

2:39:56 Well, they're they're in a secure place. They're in the skiff.

2:40:01 In the skiff. They're all set in the skiff.

2:40:04 Thank you everybody for supporting the No Agenda show. Go to noagendadonations.com

2:40:09 and make a donation. You can even set one up as a recurring donation. Any amount, any frequency, it's all up to you. That's how Value4Value works. Noagendadonations.com.

2:40:23 Two on the list today, Joe Lacoby says happy birthday to Steve Brock. He turns 66 on the twenty second. And Scott Morebutter wishes his brother and gave his switcheroo, Michael Morebutter, a very happy birthday. He turned 60 years old, and so we say, yeah. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:40:52 Yeah. We got a really big, title change, and that means it is time for a jingle because sir Scobie,

2:40:59 now becomes a the grand duke of the No Agenda show, and that is a that is quite the big deal to be a a grand duke. And with that donation, he also,

2:41:09 will be a,

2:41:11 a knight, a red knight in the Order of the Heart, and we might as well get those guys out.

2:41:19 That's

2:41:29 right. So

2:41:31 we would like to congratulate

2:41:33 sir,

2:41:34 henceforth to be known as Grand Duke of The Piedmont.

2:41:38 And sir, Your Honest Mechanic, both of you, has poured the No Agenda show and precisely the right amount to become Red Knights Order of the Heart. Congratulations

2:41:48 to the both of you.

2:42:04 And a reminder that you need to go to noagendarings.com

2:42:07 to let us know where to send your if you don't already have a No Agenda night ring,

2:42:12 you will get that added as well, but you need to go there for your, your special pin and your certificate that you are a Red Knight Order of the Heart by going to noagendarings.com.

2:42:22 Now we have a one night to,

2:42:25 to bring up on the podium here. Yeah. I got the blade right here. Woo. It's a beauty, everybody.

2:42:30 Dakota Walker, come on.

2:42:33 Yeah. You can just walk around the yeah. There's the steps up there. Perfect. He's on the podium.

2:42:39 Thank you very much,

2:42:40 for your support of No the amount of $1,000

2:42:44 or more.

2:42:45 That makes you an official knight of the No Agenda round table. I am proud to pronounce the k d as sir Dakota

2:42:52 Walker. For you, sir, we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys, and Chardonnay. We've got, oh, Diet soda and video games on beta. We got beer and blunts. We got cowgirls and coffee barners, Rubeness, Ruben and Rose, Gaysen and Sake, Bacca, Manila, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider, Escort, Gin, Trail, and Gerbils, Breast Milk and Paddlemen. Of course, as always, the round table, Mutton and Mead. Who doesn't love the Mutton and the Mead? And you too, sir, go to noagendarings.com.

2:43:17 We'll be happy to send you your No Agenda night ring. All we need from you is your ring size, which you can size conveniently with the ring sizing guide on the website. Send us your address. We'll get it to you. It is a Signet ring, so it comes with wax to seal your important correspondence and as always a certificate of authenticity. Welcome to the round table,

2:43:36 sir Dakota Walker.

2:43:46 Yeah. The party's always on with the No Agenda meetups, and they take place all around the globe,

2:43:51 on all days of the week. And this is the latest from Leo Bravo up there in Los Angeles, in Wilmington, California, actually, for I think this was number 76.

2:44:00 Hey, everybody. It's Leo Bravo at meetup number 76.

2:44:04 I'm gonna pass the phone around. My friends have things to say.

2:44:08 I'm here, RT in San Pedro. Enjoyed the show for many years, guys. Hey, John and I'm Lee, Kim Faux Pop, just here in beautiful Wilmington, California,

2:44:17 just enjoying,

2:44:18 the day after Juneteenth.

2:44:19 Tally ho.

2:44:22 This is Angie from The Ranch enjoying this lovely company here with No Agenda meetup with Leo Bravo.

2:44:28 I am not the server.

2:44:30 This is Eric at the computer. I am not the server either, so I don't know who the server is this time. This is Donna in the morning. Hi, Tina. Hi, John. Hi,

2:44:41 Adam.

2:44:41 Hi, Mimi. I hope you all are doing great.

2:44:45 Hey. This is b Dizzle and

2:44:47 yeah. Hey.

2:44:49 Leo, fix the sympos. Thanks.

2:44:52 He's never like, I grew up. Hello from b Dizzle in the Morning and no. Oh, no. Hold on. This Commodore

2:44:59 Kirk. In the morning. In the morning. Morning. In the morning.

2:45:03 Lovely O Bravo and his merry band in Los Angeles and the area there. A lot of people in the in that area who come to the meetups. But the biggest one is always the one that Annette Miller puts together in a great meetup report. It is the Indy meetup. Hi. This is Summer Mark. And this is De-dea Maria having a fantastic time with our No Agenda family. And super stoked to be watching the UFC.

2:45:25 Hey there. This is the Viscount of Hamilton and the Two Pennies having a great time at this meetup. Sir Betty just wishing everybody a happy flag day. Hi. This is Sarah over the Maple, and it is King Charles' birthday to

2:45:37 Donald Trump's birthday today. Tom g from Carmel, suggestion

2:45:41 for John when fisting nuts in public, be sure to select cocktail peanuts,

2:45:48 not red skin peanuts. Hey. It's Nick. Happy Japan versus Netherlands World Cup day, everybody. Thank you. Hey. This is Emily here, your shuffle crack spook, learning all about drugs, and shout out to all my people on the border because I work with you at HR. Bruce here. Just enjoying a good company. Gary here. Happy birthday, king Trump. Is that too soon? Hi. This is Dame Cindy of the Tito's. I think my next name will be Dame Cindy of the Nut Queens.

2:46:15 I think that's what Benny suggested. Anyway, thanks to Mark and Maria, and we are certified landmine free. Hello, guys. It's Emma. I'm a server here at Blind Isle Brewery. I have this wonderful group, No Agenda. They've been wonderful.

2:46:27 Y'all come down on 62nd in Bedford. Y'all come see us. We got some freshly brewed beer, some made to scratch kitchen items. Y'all come see us. Thank you. Happy Black Day. Thanks, King John.

2:46:42 That server had a clue. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's this is exactly what server should do. Come on down. We got the freshly brewed beer. We got scratch from the kitchen. Oh, yeah. What a promotion. That's how you do it. That was dynamite. That's how you do it.

2:46:56 So

2:46:57 Scott Old, a u l d, added a an emergency emergency meetup

2:47:03 at Pipe Smoke and Cheeseburgers that's in Charm City in Boca Raton, the mouth of the rat. Boca Raton, Florida, Charm City Burger Company

2:47:12 started about an hour ago, so if you're in the area, go go say hi.

2:47:17 It's never a good idea to do a meet up announcement on the day of, but we'll see if that worked out for you. For Friday, that's the next meet ups that we have on the list. We have Zone Spooky Kinder Meeting.

2:47:29 Oh, that's in Berlin. Hello, Deutschland.

2:47:32 That came in at the last minute too. Zone Spooky Kinder Meeting.

2:47:37 Berlin,

2:47:38 Germany. Alright. Spooky, And Rotterdam in The Netherlands on the twenty sixth. That is Time to exchange notes. Yes, please. We need some meetup reports from you guys. On the twenty seventh, we have Fort Wayne, Indiana and of course, to get John out of the house meetup in Albany, California. Go meet John. Bring a head on a stick of me if you don't mind. Houston, Texas Texas on the twenty seventh to twenty eighth, Decatur, Alabama, and Longview, Texas also on the eighth. On the July 2, Raleigh, North Carolina. The eleventh, Eagle, Idaho. The fourteenth, Scottsdale, Arizona. Asheville, North Carolina on the fifteenth, and Charlotte, North Carolina on the sixteenth. You guys are gonna be really into your meetups. And there's a lot more in August, in September, we go all the way through October. You can find all of them at noagendameetups.com.

2:48:23 This is free. There's no cost to do it. No cost to entry.

2:48:26 You just go and find people, make connections. It gives you protections. Every single one of the people you meet at these meetups will be a first responder for you in case of any emergency.

2:48:36 The meetups, they make you stable. It makes you able. Go to noagendameetups.com.

2:48:40 If you can't find one near you, here's an idea. Start one yourself. It's free, it's easy, and guaranteed.

2:48:45 Always a party.

2:49:07 And we,

2:49:09 have John's tip of the day coming up next. People complaining about your your poop gummies.

2:49:14 I didn't think it was a good tip. I don't know.

2:49:17 You know what? What?

2:49:20 I don't know. Just asking.

2:49:22 No. I don't. What? I don't know. I don't know what? I don't know what. So tip of the day is coming up next and of course we have our end of show mixes. But before we do that, we'd like to select an ISO, something we play at the very end of the show and I have real people. John has been working as AI robot again, so I'll No. These are real people. Oh, real people saying real things that weren't AI generated, of course. Here's mine, the first one. Go into the well. Good.

2:49:51 I

2:49:53 thought that was pretty good actually.

2:49:56 How about this? Gosh. I can't think of anything more important than this.

2:50:00 Mhmm.

2:50:02 That was I'm glad you liked that one. That was a good one. I agree with all of that. Yes. A 100%.

2:50:07 Yeah. I I think I have a bit of a contender here. Gosh. I can't think of anything more important than this.

2:50:14 It's so rude. It's pretty good. Alright. What do you have? I don't know where you got that one. I have a couple of, I got a Biden. The No Agenda podcast is great. Not a joke. I'm serious. Not kidding.

2:50:25 It's

2:50:27 never gonna win with me.

2:50:30 Well, you don't like Biden? It's just there's no energy. It's not a way to end a show. No energy from Biden. Wow. That's a shocker. I know. So why even try and besides it too long. This need to be three seconds. These are five seconds.

2:50:43 Oh, let's go with, Tom Cruise. Real Mission Impossible is he's actually finding a better podcast

2:50:49 than No Agenda.

2:50:50 You know, do they give you a video with this at the same time?

2:50:54 Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you post the video on x? I already did. That'll be better than that than that. No. I I think my ISO wins. Laughed at my ISO. Yeah. I think it does.

2:51:04 But nobody can beat John's tip of the day.

2:51:08 And

2:51:15 so

2:51:16 And of course.

2:51:18 Of course you you did. Lost it.

2:51:23 You're gonna have to

2:51:24 Stop tape.

2:51:26 Alright. Stop tape, everybody. Stop tape. What does that mean? Do you have to go just you have to go somewhere else? No. I have to go I have to go Downstairs? Close the browser which had it had the information opened. No. I'm never gonna edit this out. This is too good. Yeah. You will. Hold on a sec. It won't take me but a sec. But that's like you looking up, the thing from, Malone.

2:51:45 Yeah. That's my point. Exactly. Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah. Except the payoff was bigger. Depends on what this is gonna Payoff

2:51:54 was much bigger with Malone. I found I found a clip that said Malone six wow and knew it was the one. I mean, that is saying something.

2:52:04 Oh,

2:52:07 Let's

2:52:10 see if I can play something to entertain people in the Yeah. Play something to entertain.

2:52:16 That wasn't very exciting. Well, that didn't do anything. No.

2:52:20 John C. Dvorak's

2:52:22 pet peeve of date. Wow. We haven't played that in a long time.

2:52:29 Fact check false. Oh

2:52:31 my god. Listen

2:52:34 to that horn.

2:52:35 The distraction

2:52:37 of the week. Hey. Unknown's

2:52:40 agenda

2:52:42 over.

2:53:01 Did you find it?

2:53:02 You know, this is annoying now. You

2:53:07 can't find it.

2:53:09 I hold on a second.

2:53:12 Just look under email from meme. I'm I'm doing

2:53:17 hold on a sec. Let's see if it's dead.

2:53:23 Okay.

2:53:24 I found it. Amen.

2:53:27 Jeez.

2:53:28 This is it's not I I should've remembered it, but I just couldn't quite I had to make sure I got it right. This came in from Dame Bang Bang, by the way. Oh, alright. This is a pre July 4 tip of the day.

2:53:41 It's for people who are going to drive, which I think is most people.

2:53:46 There's a website you should put on your list of websites called pure-gas.org.

2:53:53 Pure-gas.org.

2:53:56 Let me take a And this is a list of all the gas stations in the country that don't put ethanol in the blend.

2:54:03 Oh.

2:54:04 Oh, god. A lot of people don't like the that that's not necessarily good for a lot of cars to have ethanol because a lot of people put 10% ethanol in their gasoline to stretch it. And the ethanol is sometimes dangerous to certain

2:54:17 hoses and Pets. Pets. Hey.

2:54:20 My gas station in Fredericksburg

2:54:25 is on the list.

2:54:26 Yeah. Well, there it's one of the stations. Now, that said Oh. I will mention that this

2:54:33 family here,

2:54:34 we have two cars that run pretty much run ethanol.

2:54:39 The e 85,

2:54:41 Flexigas

2:54:41 cars

2:54:43 Mhmm. Are fabulous because right now in California, if you have an e 85 car, you can use 85%

2:54:49 ethanol

2:54:50 and it sells for $3.50

2:54:53 as opposed to $6.

2:54:55 Oh,

2:54:55 amazing.

2:54:57 But, yeah, puregas.org.

2:54:58 This is for people that are that are freaky about their gasoline. They want pure

2:55:03 gasoline and not

2:55:05 watered down. Hey. Breaking news. Vance is, shaking hands and hugging with the Iranians in Switzerland.

2:55:12 Ah, then he won't get blamed.

2:55:14 No. He won't get blamed, but they still might get blowed up.

2:55:18 Wow. That's amazing. Well, that's good news. That's a good way to finish the show. That is. And a good tip of the day, John. That's I'd like now I know that I am getting

2:55:28 my gas at the right place. These people are good. I like these people. It's a family owned business too. There it is everybody. Get all of the tips at noagendafun.com

2:55:36 tipoftheday.net.

2:55:37 Create fast for you and me. Just a tip with JCD.

2:55:42 And sometimes

2:55:44 Adam.

2:55:45 Created by Dan Bernardi.

2:55:47 And there you go. It ends our broadcast day. Wow. Everything just fit in perfectly. So good. So good. So good.

2:55:54 Stay tuned though to noagendastream.com

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2:56:06 Oh, cool. Nothing screams second half of show than that, does it? That's beautiful.

2:56:11 Thank you trolls for being here with us and happy Father's Day everybody,

2:56:16 especially for, you know, actual dads out there. It's okay. We guys can say that to each other. End of show mixes from Cam, Molly, Barry, and MVP.

2:56:25 And as always, we will return on Thursday to bring you more media deconstruction, help you understand what's going on in your world with a couple of laughs and gaffes as well. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. Please join us on Thursday. We look forward to it. Enjoy your Father's Day. John, happy Father's Day to you. And

2:56:53 happy Father's Day to you.

2:56:56 And, we'll see you on Thursday. Remember us, please, at noagendadonations.com.

2:57:01 Value4Value

2:57:02 for your time, talent, and treasure. Until then, adios, mofos, hooey hooey and such.

2:57:54 Wait. The deal is off. Shoo bop. Shoo bop. This trade is open. Let the tankers roll. Oops. It's closed again, and we lost control.

2:58:02 It's a diplomatic tango on a tie rope string. Oh, baby. Wait. Hear the clips. No

2:58:08 it'll bring.

2:58:10 Open it up. Shoe up. Shut it down. Spinning

2:58:14 that globe all around and around.

2:58:16 Deal on. Deal off. Deal off. Deal on. Nobody

2:58:20 knows.

2:58:22 That's just how the geopolitical

2:58:24 duo goes.

3:00:32 Yes.

3:01:40 Best podcast

3:01:41 in the universe.

3:01:43 Adios,

3:01:44 mofa. To vorak.org/na.

3:01:49 Gosh. I can't think of anything more important than this.

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Predictions

  • Grace and assurance โ€” Adam writes the phrase down.

    Predicted by Adam ยท correct

Jingles

Tip of the Day

  • Pure Gas Stations

    Before driving for July 4th, use pure-gas.org to find gas stations that sell ethanol-free gasoline. Ethanol (often 10% in blends) can be dangerous to certain hoses and is not good for some cars; pure gasoline is better for freaky gas people. Note that E85 flex-fuel cars can benefit from cheap 85% ethanol where available.

ISOs

  • โ˜… Gosh. I can't think of anything more important than this. chosen
  • Go into the well
  • The No Agenda podcast is great. Not a joke. I'm serious. Not kidding. (Biden)
  • Tom Cruise - Real Mission Impossible is he's actually finding a better podcast than No Agenda

End of Show Mixes

  • MVP โ€” Donation Yelling
  • Molly Berry โ€” Geopolitical Doo-wop
  • Cam โ€” Gratuitous Book of Knowledge

Notable quotes

  • "Grace and assurance. Boy, pomp circumstance has been bumped for grace and assurance."

    โ€” Adam ยท Riffing on the episode's title phrase

  • "I think Lindsey Graham is giving is lifting a little tip of the veil to explain just the tip. With Lindsay, it's always just the tip."

    โ€” Adam ยท Pithy quip about Graham unveiling the plan

  • "I'm the Lindsey Graham of podcasts, man. I just gotta keep saying it to make sure."

    โ€” Adam ยท Self-deprecating jab about repeating predictions

  • "It'll never work perfectly ever. As long as these things hallucinate."

    โ€” John ยท Blunt take on AI's limits

  • "We've just been turned into blithering buffoons, nothing matters, you're not important, you're no good. And it's quite scandalous quite honestly."

    โ€” Adam ยท Rant on the cultural war on dads

People mentioned

News clip sources

  • NPR 5 clips
  • CBS 4 clips
  • CNBC 3 clips
  • ABC 2 clips
  • Axios 2 clips
  • CNN 2 clips
  • Fox 2 clips
  • PBS 2 clips
  • NBC 1 clip

Buzzword tally

  • karma ร—9
  • book of knowledge ร—8
  • de douche ร—8
  • in the morning ร—8
  • intelligence community ร—8
  • best podcast in the universe ร—6
  • grace and assurance ร—6
  • switcheroo ร—6
  • producer ร—5
  • war of choice ร—5
  • donation ร—4
  • value for value ร—4
  • boots on the ground ร—3
  • breaking news ร—3
  • douchebag ร—3
  • exit strategy ร—3
  • gitmo nation ร—3
  • hit people in the mouth ร—3
  • itm ร—3
  • round table ร—3
  • clip of the day ร—2
  • deep state ร—2
  • deboonk ร—1
  • go podcasting ร—1
  • narrative ร—1

Around the world this episode

  • Iran

    US-Iran MOU deal, Strait of Hormuz reopening, nuclear program

  • Strait of Hormuz

    Reopening after blockade lifted, mine clearing, oil flows

  • Lebanon

    Israel-Hezbollah ceasefire stumbling block, Israeli strikes on southern Lebanon

  • Israel

    Critical of the Iran deal, strikes on Hezbollah, Netanyahu and elections

  • California

    High gas prices, refining shipped to Texas, housing tax scam, all-electric push

  • Ukraine

    Zelensky offers to meet Putin at G7, Russian strikes, EU loan

  • Chicago, USA

    Obama Presidential Center dedication, minority contractors unpaid

  • Democratic Republic of Congo

    Ebola outbreak, possibly worst ever, ~900 cases

  • France

    G7 summit hosted by Macron, Trump tariff threat on French wine

  • Saudi Arabia

    Potential expansion of Abraham Accords, funding Iran reconstruction

  • Switzerland

    Site of US-Iran technical nuclear talks

  • Texas

    Lackland Air Force base flu outbreak after vaccine mandate dropped; oil refining

  • Bunia, DRC

    City of over 1 million where Ebola is spreading, displacement camp deaths

  • Wuhan, China

    Fauci-funded gain-of-function research, lab-leak origin of COVID

  • Alberta, Canada

    Separatism referendum cost, two-tier dual-practice healthcare

  • Kyiv, Ukraine

    Russian strike damaged 1,000-year-old UNESCO monastery

  • Nabatieh, Lebanon

    Center of fighting, historic Ottoman-era market heavily damaged

  • Uganda

    Ebola cases rising nearly 40% in a week

  • United Kingdom

    Social media ban for under-16s, Labour by-election win

  • Norway

    Crown Princess's son sentenced to 4 years for rape

Books, movies & media

  • tv The Simpsons

    Cited as example of dads portrayed as buffoons (Homer Simpson)

  • tv Everybody Loves Raymond

    Cited as example of dads portrayed as idiots

  • tv Married with Children

    Cited as example of dads (Al Bundy) portrayed as idiots

  • movie Mission: Impossible โ€” Tom Cruise

    Referenced in an ISO clip joke about finding a better podcast than No Agenda